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On Pace to Be Active or Inactive in Oakland?

Posted by Randy Lange on October 17, 2008 – 3:05 pm

Not much to impart from head coach Eric Mangini’s Friday news conference, other than that one of his starting outside linebackers, a guy who’s made a strong impression since arriving as an unrestricted free agent in March, is up in the air for Oakland.

Or at least the coach wasn’t saying what the likelihood was of Calvin Pace’s availability for the Raiders on Sunday.

"We’ll look at it more today," Mangini said of Pace’s foot injury, which landed him on a Jets injury report for the first time this season after Thursday’s practice. "He got nicked up a little bit yesterday. I’m not really sure where it’s going to go. We’ll have to see here today."

A reporter asked what the odds were of Pace being active Sunday. Mangini saw right through the attempt to repackage the previous question in new wrapping.

"I’m not sure," he said. "Like I said, I’ve got to see today."

After practice, Pace wore a T-shirt soaked in sweat and didn’t seem concerned by the injury. The Jets’ final injury report of the week will be issued sometime after 4 p.m. and will be posted on

With fellow OLB Bryan Thomas also listed, on the Wednesday and Thursday reports, as limited in practice with a calf injury, odds are that rookie OLB Vernon Gholston should continue to be prominent.

Defensive coordinator Bob Sutton, in his informal biweekly news conference today outside the locker room, said he’s seeing progress in the sixth pick of the draft’s transition to the pro game.

"Vernon, I think, is finally getting comfortable using the talents he has," Sutton said. "He’s a big, strong, powerful outside linebacker who’s getting used to playing a different position after playing defensive end in college. The comfort level is there, he’s working hard in that area and working very hard off the field to speed up."

It was a positive development, Sutton said, that Gholston took the award from Mangini and his staff as the Jets’ Special Teams Player of the Week two games ago vs. Arizona.

"Special teams is an area where you can play pretty aggressively," he said. "That’s a good sign."

Another Special Note

In the past we have established "Special Teams Saturday" at as a day when you can read a feature about the players and things that are happening on the Jets’ special units. We’re suspending that feature this week only because we’ll have some information Saturday about the week ahead leading up to the Super Bowl III 40th Anniversary celebration during the Jets-Chiefs game at the Meadowlands on Oct. 26.

But Coach Mangini didn’t let the week go by without a shoutout to his teams peeps. Asked about Wallace Wright, this past game’s ST Player of the Week winner, and his tackling skills, he reminisced about how, in 2006, not only Wright, a WR by trade, but also Brad Smith, the former Missouri QB, were getting it done covering kicks as NFL rookies in 2006.

"That first year, I thought it was great," Mangini said. "You had a wide receiver making a bunch of tackles and a quarterback making a bunch of tackles. So it was pretty easy for me to turn on the film, look at the defensive group and say, ‘You’ve been doing this your whole life. Here’s a quarterback who’s never tackled, OK? He’s running down, he’s making a ton of ‘em. And here’s a wide receiver. You guys have green shirts on for a reason.’ "

Smith’s teams tackles have tapered off from 12 last year to two so far this season, but Wright, who made a beautiful burst tackle from behind of Glenn Holt on one of Cincinnati’s kickoff returns, has increased from six in ’06 to 16 to 12 after five games, putting him on pace for an unconscious 38 ST tackles over 16 games. Brad Kassell led the Jets last season with 23.

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29 Responses to “On Pace to Be Active or Inactive in Oakland?”

  1. By Johnny on Oct 17, 2008 | Reply

    I hope Pace plays…he is the most dominant player on our defense. Great pick up in the off-season, just as important as Favre!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  2. By Drew on Oct 17, 2008 | Reply

    A little concerned about Pace here….as much as I want Gholsten to start making plays I would much rather him sit behind a dominate Calvin Pace.

  3. By Howard on Oct 17, 2008 | Reply

    pace will be real active in this game along with all the other d players stopping another running game and chasing down russell,lets just take care of business and move along,LETS GO WIN JETS

  4. By Andrew in Tucson on Oct 17, 2008 | Reply

    Get after the silver and black on sunday. Show them the meaning of high seas trechery! Play hard like it is the last game ever. If the Jets do that they shall be victorious! GO JETS!

  5. By Ed in Tucson on Oct 17, 2008 | Reply

    A scene I’d love to see before Sunday’s game: Jets’ players in small groups, standing around pointing and laughing while looking at the crowd in the “Black Hole.” No angry words, no one finger salutes, just covering their mouths and giggling or full bellied guffaws at all the posers in the stands. In the game, I’d like to see BSmith and DKeller used more; let’s use ALL our talent! Go Jets!

  6. By ScottinAfghanistan on Oct 17, 2008 | Reply

    It would be great to see VG make some progress this week. He should obviously be able to rush the passer. I hope to see him be able to cover their guys out of the backfield. We need to destroy Oakland. There’s no need to keep it close.

  7. By Xavion on Oct 17, 2008 | Reply

    I think we will dominatethis game on the Strength of special teams we will have great returns all game and great stops maybe a defensive special teams TD. I just see ST playing a big role in this game and REvis getting another PIck or 2 this week…

  8. By Jeremy on Oct 18, 2008 | Reply

    Hope Leon makes it to the Pro Bowl this year! Without the Jets starting at the 35/40 every posession, not sure about the outcome of some of those games. Now that Favre is at QB, wonder if we’ll see Brad Smith take some reps behind Mangold this year. With Oakland this weekend and the team very desperate for some PTS and a W. Wouldn’t be surprised to see McFadden handle some snaps!

  9. By Jeremy on Oct 18, 2008 | Reply

    Likely my last comment before the game. With Roster spots at such high demand, Do we really need 4 QB’s on the roster?? Wouldn’t that really help to only have 3 and free up Elam & Miller to get back on permant duty? I can’t think of any other teams that have 4 active QB’s. Not that I pay much attention to it, but maybe Randy could clue us into that?? Are the JETS the only team in the league?

  10. By ira on Oct 18, 2008 | Reply

    “…and things that are happening on the Jets’ special VICTIMS units.” I think this is a misprint.


  11. By BIG AL on Oct 18, 2008 | Reply

    maybe pace should sit this one out get the body rested and healthy for the bigger games like buff jets should light it up sunday oak ranked 25th 26th against the pass and brett favre will do just that pass that ball all around and the jets are ranked 3rd against the run so i feel they will shut down mcfadden jets win big sunday going home to prep for chiefs who are also struggling so rest pace

  12. By Randy Lange on Oct 18, 2008 | Reply

    Jeremy, Tampa Bay, Detroit and Kansas City have also had four QBs on their active roster recently.

  13. By Jay on Oct 18, 2008 | Reply

    Unlike many of our doom and gloom brethren, I have all confidence that VG will end up a stud (and with the Jets for that matter). Nonetheless, this Pace injury terrifies me. Calvin Kris and Revis are playing pro bowl football, Pace never stops moving. I’m praying that it’s nothing, but getting no info out of Mangini makes it stressful. Prediction – Rhodes gets 1st pick off Russell

  14. By Frank on Oct 18, 2008 | Reply

    Just like last week this is another no excuse game just go out there and win the game. The best teams expect to win these games and usually do Favre has that mindset and just like last week he wasn’t his best but the team won. His relaxed approach is helping this team. Hope Pace sits I want to see Gholston play he needs the work and this would be a great game to get him started.

  15. By Charlie D on Oct 18, 2008 | Reply

    I think we really need Pace to play Sunday. He was an excellent pick and the Jets have done a great job in the off season. To any fan that thinks we made the wrong decision just look at the sack number and Farve’s Stats have been set records.
    GO Jets Charles

  16. By Charlie D on Oct 18, 2008 | Reply

    I think we will dominate this game. The Jets have not had these sack number since the days of the “sack exchange” in the early 1980’s. I heard that the Jets lead the NFL in sacks, is this true Randy? If not where do we rate with sacks I know we are #3 best in stopping the run.
    Thanks Charles D

  17. By Randy Lange on Oct 18, 2008 | Reply

    Charles, the Jets are tied for second in the NFL with 18 sacks and are fourth in sack percentage.

  18. By MikeMc on Oct 18, 2008 | Reply

    Frank I disagree, last week vs Cincy & next week vs K.C. are no excuse games, being home vs inferior teams. This week going cross country into hostile territory with banged up players would be a huge win. I expect this game to be close. I expect a very conservative game plan also. So Frank give our team credit when they win Sunday, cause it will have been well earned.

  19. By jeff ircink on Oct 18, 2008 | Reply

    Jets are tied for 2nd in the league along with Pittsburgh and AZ for total sacks. Just looked it up. GO FAVRE! GO JETS in 2008!
    (ex Packer Backer now boycotting GB and following Jets)

  20. By CEDRIC on Oct 18, 2008 | Reply

    i keep telling you guys there are no such thing as no excuse games, if there were then why do we even play? ANY GIVEN SUNDAY. The better team doesnt always win. Oh Frank, i see your soft on Farve, what happen to your harsh critique that you give everyone else? Farve almost blew that game vs Cincy & u practically given him a standing ovation for not losing the game. Punking out on me.

  21. By BIG AL on Oct 18, 2008 | Reply

    CEDRIC what game were you watching favre has been a great pick up for the jets throwing tds comes with picks thats football we are lucky to have him and the cinci off scored only 7 points and these games are joke games better teams win bottom line no they can get out played i give you that but the jets r3rd aginst therun and oak is 30th in the pass and like i said earlier farve has great day35-10

  22. By blackscorpio on Oct 18, 2008 | Reply

    well give u jets a fight sunday. c. pace is a great player. but farve is a has been. raider nation 4ever

  23. By Andrew in Tucson on Oct 18, 2008 | Reply

    Hey Ed in Tucson where do you watch the Jets in Tucson? We watch at the Home Plate on 22nd street you should swing by on sunday. GO JETS!

  24. By CEDRIC on Oct 18, 2008 | Reply

    Big AL, Im not bashing Favre, i just want Frank to deal the critique equally. Farve’s INTs left 14pts on the field. thats one of the reason the offense moved sluggish. waving the WRs run pattern with your hand isnt too smart either. All in All, im still glad he’s on the team, just stating facts

  25. By Bucks County Jeff on Oct 19, 2008 | Reply

    I have to say, I am really enjoying the posts from disgruntled Packers fans. Jets fans by nature are so negative. It is nice to read posts from people who do not always think the sky is falling. J – E – T – S. JETS. JETS. JETS.

  26. By Frank on Oct 19, 2008 | Reply

    Here’s a few facts for you Cedric without Favre this team is at best 1-4. Last week Coles dropped aTD pass right in his hands and another on third down. Favre is the best thing to happen to the Jets in a very long time so what is your problem? Mikey Mc making excuses already? The Jets are playing one of the worst teams in the NFL are the Jets just as bad? is that why your afraid of this game?

  27. By FLJet fan on Oct 19, 2008 | Reply

    Don,t worry about this one, I just watched Hank Goldberg pick the Raiders and he can,t pick his nose! We should score enough points to win this one. Our defense, if were going to be in the hunt, should be able to limit an offense that’s this putrid.” Belichek JR.” needs to start coaching em up!

  28. By CEDRIC on Oct 19, 2008 | Reply

    Still sounds like you soft on Farve, i’m just asking for equal criticism which u are failing to provide. And us being 1-4 is not a fact, unless u have a secret device that enables you to look into alternate realities, do you Frank? Dont think so.

  29. By CEDRIC on Oct 19, 2008 | Reply

    Youre a smart guy Frank, but youre starting to sound like a Green Kool Aid drinker putting a positive spin on the Farve INTs and not even addressing them, but dumping on Coles, show more heart , i guess you drink Favre Juice, i have a six pack of that in my fridge too.

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