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STEVE-O: Time to Smash Some Mouths

Posted by jetsstaff on October 29, 2008 – 9:48 am

Before the Jets were blessed with a Hall of Fame quarterback, they had a plan to be the nastiest smashmouth football team in the division.

That’s why they went out and got Alan Faneca and Damien Woody and added Bill Callahan as the offensive specialist. Adding to that, Thomas Jones is a between-the-tackles runner who can burn the clock and get to the second level. No matter the results this year, you have to appreciate the fact that a "plan" was in place and successfully implemented.

Now, it clearly changed once Brett Favre joined the team, but this team was built to run the ball. Don’t get me wrong, Favre makes the Jets ten times better. Still, he took a little focus away from what is clearly the strength of the team: the rushing attack. It’s something Faneca has been talking about all year: "Cultivate the ground game."

Against the Raiders, the Jets averaged 7.3 yards per rush by sticking with the run. I know it was in a losing effort, but I think the critics were too quick to slam the coaches for staying conservative in overtime. The holes that line was opening looked like something you could walk a pachyderm through.

Against the Chiefs the number dropped to 5.6 per carry and that was helped out greatly by that sensational 60-yard run by Washington. There is the belief that the pass can set up the run, and maybe the Jets can be successful that way. But it’s becoming clearer that the balanced attack can rely a little more on the ground game.

The Jets need to become the kind of team that can run the ball when it matters most. In the red zone, running out the clock, and when they’re facing eight-man fronts.

I’m not saying smashing your head against a brick wall repeatedly will get the job done, but you have to run to set up the rest of the offense. It slows down the pass rush, keeps the defense on the field, shortens the game and gives your own defense a rest. It also sets up Favre’s most dangerous weapon: the play-action pass.

From the first day Eric Mangini and Mike Tannenbaum took the reins of this team, the message was clear. Build a smart, tough team that excels in the cold weather of the Northeast. That starts with a running game. Considering the fact we’ve busted out our winter coats for a trip to Buffalo this week … that starts now.

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50 Responses to “STEVE-O: Time to Smash Some Mouths”

  1. By Anthony on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    I am a hugh Jet fan Favre fan but this is totally on point. We need to play smashmouth football beat up the defenses enough that it gives Brett the oppurtunity to throw more clean open passes. But also the O-line hasn’t looked good and I know they are fully capabale of dominating. I hope we get the W this weekend

  2. By Ira on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    Steve, I couldn’t agree with you more. Mr. T did a brilliant job of building this smash mouth team and everything was going along fine until they saw Kellen couldn’t beat out Chad. Then Favre came around and everythinged changed. For the record favre is not 10 X better then Chad. Chad right now is ranked 5th in the league were as Favre is #15. Favre is better but he needs to play that way.

  3. By Ira on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    And there is no doubt this offense has been so inconsistent because of Favre. It has affected the coaching and the players. He needs to play within the system they have built and he will be great then. Until then you won’t know what you get from week to week. I expect a big game from this week and a win in Buffalo.

  4. By Alan on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    I don’t understand why the jets don’t run the ball more often. When we played the raider’s we were running thru them all day. Why didn’t they stick with it? The Kansas game? They made another third string QB look like a superstar. That game should have been a blowout. They need to find balance on both sides of the ball.

  5. By HOGAN on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    For the love of god please foward this to Mangini and Schott.

  6. By Eric on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    My thoughts exactly. Why are the Jets afraid to be a power team. Understanding that Brett brings a diffrent look to the team but lets go. Why all the tricks we dont need them. Just look across the ball and say i am stronger then you, we are running it and you cant stop it. Is it coaching or just attitude?Brett doesnt have to win the game for us, use his talets, arm and expirance when it is needed.

  7. By Drew on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    Stevie makes a point that I have been making since the NE goaline issue. If Mangini runs the ball late he is coaching scared. If he takes chances you guys kill him. Stop complaining that we have Favre and we need to him throw the ball all over the field. We brought him here to help our running game and make throws deep. Not to have him throw it 36 x a game. Run the ball and ignore the fans

  8. By Xavion on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    Im not worried about, Marshawn Lynch or Even Lee Evans Im worried about Trent Edwards and not even Trent Edwards but whoever he throwing to in the middle Im scared a no-name slot wr or no-name TE

  9. By GANG GREEN on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply


  10. By Tom Spicer on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    This is a must win game for us if we lose this game we will be 2 games behind the Bills & in there next 4 games they play Browns, Chiefs & Niners. We play @ Pats, @ Tenn, vs Rams & vs Broncos they will go 3 & 1 or 4 & 0 & we will be lucky to be 2 & 2 with the way we are playing. That would make us 3 or 4 games out with 5 games to go it would be OVER ! WE HAVE TO WIN THIS GAME

  11. By JP on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    Steve-O, the problem is they took the reigns 2 1/2 years ago. The other problem is we’re seeing both the Dolphins and the Bills building formidable foundations through proven front offices and the draft. They both have the look of contenders for years to come. Faneca’s been a great player but he’s not something to build the future on. Woody, I have to believe they could have gotten more

  12. By Ira on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    With Chad right now this team would be 4-3 at least and probably 5-2. He wouldn’t have lost in Oakland. And his play action fakes are more deceptive then Favre’s are.Once again i will say Favre brings to the Jets a weapon they haven’t had since Namath. But he needs to play a more controlled game like they used Vinny in 98.

  13. By JP on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    for the bucks they spent. Having said that, I love Jenkins and Pace signings.
    I’ve just got a bad feeling the management, coaches and the future of the QB position put us behind the tide in comparison to our division rivals. Lastly, I cannot understand trading up for Keller if he’s not used and Gholston shows zero signs of being a fiery OLB i.e. Joey Porter-not in his makeup. We need PASSION.

  14. By Brian I on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    Steve O…I agree with your outlook. I think the one thing aside from the consistency in the running game is the lack of a mean streak in this offensive line. I want to see that “we are going to punch you in the mouth, huddle up and come back and punch you again” attitude. My personal opinion is that Faneca has that, moore has that, Woody appears to have it and Mangold is just a rock, Brick??

  15. By TnJetsFan on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    I couldn’t agree with you more Steve-O, but Jets coaching staff can’t seem to decide on HOW they are going to accomplish the feat. They set the O in shotgun formation where you can’t run or play action. I am at a loss for words except that Mangini and Schottenheimer must go.

  16. By Anonymous on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    If we don’t change the front office/coaching staff, we’re looking at KOTITE years all over again. Our division rivals are building championship teams. We have no chance to compete with Tangini. It’s good you spent $$ Woody, now wake up and call Bill Cowher.

  17. By Jamie on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    You rock Lauren! Halloween is my favorite holiday, too! You look awesome!

  18. By fljetfan on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    no question, run the ball more, farve’s old, still capable but old. run more, if for no other reason then there gonna get him killed. with that,the def. needs to play better. create turnovers. where’s rhodes? cheat him up a little, there not given up big plays, but there not makin em either. empty set is a joke, leave 1 back there for prot. and draws, show that you might run!!!!!!!!!!!! daaaaaaaa

  19. By ALL THINGS NY on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    Good point, except Schotty is incapable of creating a balanced game plan and apparently has committment issues with game plans as well. You can’t trick your way into the playoffs, but you can run your way in.

  20. By Peter on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    Note to MANGINI and FARVE. Play Action Fake! Play Action Fake! Play Action Fake! Farve is very good at the Play Action Fake. Use it for the pass and run.

  21. By Ken on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    Farve and the JETS receivers don’t know each other well enough or have a feel for each other well enough at this time, to just PASS or run the SHOT GUN offense all the time. That is pretty obvious! So Mangini should adjust, and lean more to the RUN game with PLAY ACTION FAKE from Farve.

  22. By uncle joe on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    Its hard to run the ball because Jones is pedestrian and Leon is so valuable on KOs especially when Miller is hurt and we have no other running backs.Loosing Ware to the Giants hurt and all us fans wanted him on our roster.SO PLEASE DON’T LOSE CUMMINGS OR M.HENRY THE SAME WAY!

  23. By Ryan on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    Ever since we ran the ball 3 times from the 1 and got stuffed against New england in the redzone we have barely attempted and “green zone” runs. Instead we had 2 no he didnt INts in the red zone against oakland and KC. It was actually the difference in the oak game… Where is mike Nugent??? Im sick of watching field goals gett missed. Sign Mike Vanderjact at least he solid in the reg season

  24. By Anonymous on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    Run the f**king ball eric. then play action with farve.


  25. By Frank on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    Right Steve they tried running the ball early in the season without much success. It wasn’t until the Zona game and Favre going wild that the running game started to gain ground and that is a direct result of teams playing to stop Favre & the passing game. However, they fail miserably when they have to run and the other team is expecting it there is no consistancy and the O-line is underperforming

  26. By jet jeff on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    I agree totally, I just think you have to know when to run and when to throw &
    I think the coachs have made very poor choices and are confused by when to do what , but now is the time to start making right decisions ,I mean some better teams you just cant run on and you have to know that!

  27. By Frank on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    Mickey Mc and Drew I don’t know what team you are watching to say that Mangini is doing a good job is ridiculous. I have been tempering my comments and leaving the door open for a major turnaround we are 4-3 so maybe things will improve significantly. However, Mangini and his team look the same for the last 3 years regardless of the personnel and that is not a good sign.

  28. By Tom Spicer on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    Drew Mangini has not done a good job at all please tell us how he has cause I could write a novel about all the ways he has not

  29. By mike r on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    10x better!! Farve might be a better QB than Penny, but to say we are 10xs better? I don’t think we are a better TEAM with Farve, let alone 10X better. With comments like that, one thing you do is reinforce my belief that media people really do not know more than us fans.

  30. By Tom Spicer on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    IRA please tell me where Chad is ranked 5th in the league RANKED 5TH IN WHAT ! missing the most games due to injury & Favre is 10 times better than Chad he is one of the best ever to play the game please. The O is inconsistent cause of Favre is he calling the plays ? We would be 4 & 3 or 5 & 2 with Chad Chad would not have beat the Cards so what are you talking do you see the hits Favre has taken

  31. By James Villa on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    This is a complete turn around from the Monday Night game earlier in the year when everyone’s comment was to let Brett loose since the failed 4th and goal attempt all we heard was let him loose. Well now you have what you wanted and it appears that’s not really what you wanted after all. You should have known what you were going to get. The Jets running game is a mirage.

  32. By Tom Spicer on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    have you seen the hits Favre has taken the pass blocking has been real bad Brick looks like a bust & Woody looks like a bad move Chad would be out for multiple games if not the year right now with the hits Favre has taken. Ira stay off the green kool aid Favre is a master of the play action fake tight end dump in the red zone so what are you talking about Chad is & his play action ?

  33. By Tom Spicer on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    The Jets 4 big problems are 1 the O line we spent all this money on them & they are not playing up to par not even close 2 The OC his play calling you run 20 times vs the worst run D in the game how about run it 40 times, vs Oakland we are running all over them so they start to crowd the line & stop the run so at that point throw the ball & not 2 yard passes vs Pats you run it right into there

  34. By Tom Spicer on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    strength how about a play action pass 1 time ? We are the only team in the game that throws when a team is weak at the run & runs when a team is weak at the pass 3 The DC Sutton stop with the rush 3 drop 8 we are getting picked apart in the pass game YOU HAVE TO RUSH AT LEAST 4 EVERY TIME it does not matter if you have 8 guys in coverage eventually they will get open & we get picked apart

  35. By Tom Spicer on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    4 Mangini I do not want to hear it anymore take some blame, yell at a guy if he does bad, try to fire up or inspire your team, your OC & DC are doing bad mabye step in and have some say over what they are doing

  36. By Sam Massaro on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    I agree with this post that Favres best plays are by far his play action plays. And when are play action plays the most efective? When your running the ball effectively. In this article steve said something about the pass game opening up the run game, we need to start letting our run game open up our pass game instead.

  37. By Frank on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    Ira you can’t be serious Chad couldn’t get it done last year and now he would have made a difference? He would be on IR right now with the pounding Favre has taken. Chad was throwing all those red zone int’s last year…it’s the play calling and the system Ira that’s the problem. Teams know what to expect the coaching staff has done a poor job disguising plays and adding new wrinkles consistantly.

  38. By Kevin on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    I don’t think Ira is saying Chad would be better in our system he is saying Chad is ranked 5th right now in the league to Favres 15th Chad is doing better in Miami than Favre is here in NY thats the simple truth Chad is having a breakout year his only bad game was against us in the red zone with the pick to Revis other than that he has played extremely good football but you can’t compare apples

  39. By Howard on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    wow jets fans hiiting the roof with favre,run the ball play action throw it long maybe if mangini had guts like singletary in frisco and favre had to answer for these bad plays he wouldnt do that anymore,make the player accountable,has anyone ever heard of that i thought ive heard coaches say this kind of thing,and as for brick hes been better then af and dw bricks been our 2nd best o lineman

  40. By Row on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    For starters, TJ has over 530 yards averaging 4+ with 9 games to go. With that said, the running game has been good. I would like to see a play like the Titans 2pt conversion in our playbook. It would work really well with Keller. I don’t know why Dearth wasn’t used, he has been a TE for years. I want to see VG with his fingers in the grass, we can give a nickel corner his coverage assignments.

  41. By John on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    Chad is 3-4, Favre is 4-3,,,end of discussion

  42. By Tom Spicer on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    Kevin, Miami’s O line is playing well the Jets O line is not every time Favre drops back he is under heat. The Miami OC is calling plays not seen in the NFL in years he is tricking other teams the Jet OC is running when he should be throwing & throwing when he should be running he tricks no one with his plays & 95% of the posters on this board think he is doing a bad job

  43. By Tom Spicer on Oct 29, 2008 | Reply

    The Miami OC is putting Chad in a position to do well by doing what he does best unlike Schotty who wants to run his horrible plays instead or doing what Favre does best Chad is not good thats why the Jets got rid of him PERIOD !

  44. By Ray on Oct 30, 2008 | Reply

    John I think your giving him way too much credit. Chad is 1-3, Ronnie Brown is 2-1 !!

  45. By Alex M on Oct 30, 2008 | Reply

    YES! Thank you Steve-O, this is what i’ve been saying. This is what i’ve been ranting about after every jets game. We need to run the ball!!! But what guarantee is there that the coaches will take heed of this? We ran beautifully against oakland, but against KC we still throw on 3rd AND 1.!!!!

  46. By Footballlover on Oct 30, 2008 | Reply

    I agree Steve-O. Brett Favre is 10X better when he has the chance. The O-line has been terrible for all of that money spent. Favre is hurried, slammed and sacked numerous times a game. Recievers do not get away from their defenders and when they do they trip on their own two feet. The defense allows poor teams to stay in the game and I could go on and on.

  47. By Footballlover on Oct 30, 2008 | Reply

    Steve-O: Is it just me or have you seen an interesting trend? Since Mangini named his son for Brett the team is playing worse? That the chemistry is not there. Do you think Faneca, Woody, Coles, etc were upset? No protection, dropped balls, tripping over their expensive feet?! Football is a TEAM sport; yes the QB gets a lot of credit and blame but it is still a TEAM sport. Just a thought.

  48. By J from Jersey on Oct 30, 2008 | Reply

    Agreed. Run the ball to set up the play action pass. Keep the pressure off Brett so when he does throw the ball he’s not rushed into throwing INTs.
    And how about Having Keller run the seam routes which is supposedly why they got him? I haven’t seen it much so far. Make them fear the speed guys so your possesion guys will be open, then take your shots.

  49. By poobah on Nov 1, 2008 | Reply

    great point steve o. we’re ‘getting there’. just need to balance things better. it was clear (though dumb) the kind of offense we wanted to be when we tried to run it in 3 consec. times at the goal line earlier in the year. but the power that would have given us, not just in the moment, woulda been huge. it was too soon. looking at run DEFENSE as first priority too. also working, just not thereyet

  50. By poobah on Nov 1, 2008 | Reply

    frank you have my respect but you gotta chill on tangini buddy! they’ll be fine. they’re learning too. look how much is new on this team. the season is scary with better teams ahead but 4-3 ain’t that bad as long as they keep moving forward. potentially strong run ‘o’ and ‘d’!! holy molie we’ll rock this year and next.

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