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Some Thoughts for a Jets-Less Sunday

Posted by Randy Lange on November 16, 2008 – 12:30 pm

This is an odd week for the Jets and many fans. The franchise has played 10 times on Thursdays (six on Thanksgiving) and in the previous six times before Thursday night at New England, the Jets had lost and thus had a nice 10-day hiatus to stew over their defeat before taking it out on the next opponent.

Put another way, the 34-31 overtime win over the Patriots was the first time since the 1962 Titans won at Denver on Turkey Day that the Jets are resting up after such a short-week win.

So with nothing to do today but watch some NFL games and monitor the scoreboard for the Tennessee-Jacksonville doings, I wanted to bring you a few more thoughts from the Patriots game before we move on Monday into preparations to play the latter-day Titans at Nashville.

J-Co’s Catch(es)

Just to make sure we don’t gloss over Jerricho Cotchery’s contributions to the second-quarter drive that enabled the Jets to open their 24-6 lead. How about those catches?

We have to pluralize the word because J-Co’s 46-yard one-handed, against-the-helmet-David Tyree-style grab — while being interfered with by Ellis Hobbs, let’s not forget — was one for the franchise highlight video. And right behind it, and coming right after it, was Cotchery’s catch and quick-thinking stretch to break the plane of the goal line to put the points on the board.

"It was pretty amazing," head coach Eric Mangini said on his day-after conference call, more about the 46-yarder although he surely appreciated the TD grab as well. "In our first game [vs. the Patriots], I don’t know if you guys remember he ended up getting called for offensive pass interference, but he had another amazing catch over the top.

"Jerricho has unbelievable hands and some of the things that he comes down with are amazing. He’s such an understated guy that you lose track of how gifted he is as a receiver."

So many other great catches in Jets history flood to mind in thinking about that reception — improbable snags by Wayne Chrebet, stretching fingertip grabs by Wesley Walker, traffic stoppers by Al Toon and Keyshawn Johnson, Namath hookups with Don Maynard and George Sauer, not to mention a few more catches by Cotchery and Laveranues Coles (most of them seeming to come against the Patriots. Hmmm …).

I have a few of my favorites but if any of you, in some "receptive" moments today and into the new week, want to share a snapshot of your favorite Jets catch, ship them my way and we’ll get them up on the site for others to reminisce about.

Lead Lost, Lead Regained

Speaking of the Jets’ 18-point second-quarter advantage at New England, that was the third-largest blown lead in franchise history in a game in which the Jets still went on to win.

The two largest almost-lost leads were both 21-0 fourth-quarter advantages.

In 1980 the Jets were caught at Shea Stadium by the Houston Oilers twice, at 21 and 28 (by Kenny Stabler’s third and then fourth TD passes of the fourth period), before prevailing on a Pat Leahy overtime field goal, 31-28.

And in 1991 at Foxboro Stadium, the Patriots caught the Jets at 21 before Ken O’Brien rescued the Green & White with his third TD pass of the game, this one to TE Trevor Matich, with 57 seconds left for the 28-21 win.

Like almost everything in life, we can look at this most recent hiccup from two different angles. It would have been much more impressive had the Jets doubled their lead to 48-12 instead of having to fight off 24-all and 31-all comebacks by the Pats. They enabled a huge victory to become too close for comfort.

But the Jets also never lost the lead. And they showed extreme grit in a hostile environment to twice regain the lead, against a nemesis that wasn’t going to die. And that’s a good thing.

"I think it showed a lot of heart and a lot of mettle on our part," said Jay Feely, the guy who supplied that second and final lead with his game-winning 34-yard field goal. "Having the lead the whole game and allowing them to come back, it could’ve been a heartbreaking loss. Now it’s something to build on."

As an aside, I would dispute the theory that this win came down to the luck of the coin flip that the Jets won to get the ball to start OT. That presumes the Jets defense would have yielded a Patriots scoring drive just has they had in the final 1:04 of regulation. But of course they would have played the Pats differently in OT than they did in that drive. And keep in mind that three of the five Pats possessions before that remarkable TD were ended in punts, two of them in three-and-outs.

But would I have preferred that this game not have come down to an OT coin flip to begin with? Yes, without question. But since it did, I’m with Feely on the "something to build on" approach.

Dustin Time

And finally one last point on Dustin Keller’s contributions to the effort. Each game this no-longer-a-rookie TE is showing how valuable he is to Brett Favre, the offense and the Jets operation. Two numbers that may have been glossed over when considering Keller’s 16-yard reception on third-and-15 and eight catches for 87 yards are these:

Seven first downs made and five third downs converted.

For a TE, those are Tony Gonzalez/Antonio Gates numbers. Consider that in recent history

The last Jets receiver at any position to have more than seven receiving first downs in a game was Coles with eight at Minnesota in 2006. No Jets tight end has had as many as seven first downs in a game since 1991.

Same goes for five 3DCs in a game. Keller is only the third receiver since ’91 to get that many, and the first to do it in a winning effort. Here are the three:

 Season Receiver Opp. 3DC Final Score
 1996 WR Wayne Chrebet at JAX 5 Jaguars, 21-17
 2006 WR Laveranues Coles vs. NE 5 Patriots, 24-17
 2008 TE Dustin Keller at NE 5 Jets, 34-31 (OT)

I regret to say that my personal records in this area don’t go back farther than ’91, so I don’t have any of the great chain-moving games of Mickey Shuler, Walker, Toon, Maynard, Sauer, et al. Some day, some day.

And for the rest of this day, enjoy the rest of the NFL action from the Jets’ first-place perch in the AFC East. Check in this evening when Eric Allen will check in with his thoughts on the Titans-Jaguars game.

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64 Responses to “Some Thoughts for a Jets-Less Sunday”

  1. By Jeremy on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    Those that have watched his highlight clips from college knew Keller was going to be a stud. He is arguably the best TE in the league right now! He certainly has the talent to be a consistent Pro Bowl TE! What’s happened with Stuckey? He opened the year w/ 3 straight TD games and then fell off the radar? JETS are really lucky to have Westhoff & Leon on ST-it’s a huge blessing and key to success!

  2. By Drew on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    I mentioned this before (as most Mangini haters probably ignored) but how about a little credit goes to the coaches on DKeller knowing exactly where the 1st down sticks were in OT. Not to mention the lack of penalties especially on the OL&DL in hostile NE?? These are Mangini stamps. How about great clock management? Always having TO’s in big spots? Again, Stop complaining guys he’s a good coach

  3. By jak,ex packer 15 wk jet fan on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    randy i was 1 month old when titans 1 that 62 game.when i heard brett was a jet ,first thing i asked a friend was ,do jets still have Wayne Chrebet. he was amazing. j co catch was amazing as well. this team is great. BIG AL miamis winning in oakland so far. but next wk my prediction of their 1-5 rec for last 6 gms kicks in .lets hope so

  4. By TonyC on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    Jeremy, I too have wondered why Stuckey hasn’t been a factor in recent weeks. I think Mangini should give Clowney a chance and sit Stuckey for a game or two just to see what happens.

  5. By Ira on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    You’re preaching to the choir about Thursdays big win. J-CO was great as always and that 46 yd catch was too. But i remember a catch Chrebet made in Baltimore going down the middle with a one handed tip ,dive and catch in a losing cause vs the Ravens in that last game of the year in 2000. Getting to the remaining games the Jets most figure out a way to cover the TE’s. Its a must.GO JETS!!

  6. By Ed in Tucson on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    Jak,ex etc. not to be nit-picky but the Raiders are in Miami today. I wonder, would the hated Raiders have won at the Meadowlands? I haven’t heard the stats recently but West Coast teams playing early games on East Coast have lost a bunch of games without any wins, last time I heard. Phins’ sched is too easy, Rams, 49ers & KC are sure wins so I think your prediction will be wrong, they’ll be 3-3.

  7. By Joe Willie on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    Drew, your comments as self appointed apologist for this coaching staff are becoming embarassing.. Its Keller who executed. Mangini started running out the clock in the 2nd quarter. His horrible coaching alone allowed the Pats back in. 500 yards to a backup We are not blind and some of us do know football when we see it. As a jet fan since 1965 Ive seen lots of bad coaching & that was inexcusable

  8. By Ray on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    One play I almost forgot because it happened right off the bat. How about the hit Ihedigbo put on Raymond Ventrone?!! He knocked him OUT!!! He got up saying “no really, I’m tall enough to go on this ride”!!

  9. By jet80 on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    The Jets are finally clickin in almost every area!but how can one flawed position damage a team soo much.i think Law was ther on each play but just simply couldnt have done any better,it happens. Lowery was thrown to the wolves too soon and Millers time was up.Elam is sharp and underestimated.What will the jets to with all of these good QBs come next year,i personally cant wait to see Ratliff.

  10. By Peyton Waukesha,WI on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    Randy, the Jet receivers are not done, there’s 6 more games and probably 6 more highlight catches to report on. Brett knows how to setup for the next game. Titans now have to be concerned about Kelly and the short 8-12 yard pass, which will leave another receiver open. I can’t wait til Sunday’s game against the Titans. My local sports bar already has reservations for 244 Jets fans.

  11. By Tom Spicer on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    I wanted the Titans to win today so we could knock them off but now I am thinking if the Titans lose today & we beat them next week we will be 8 & 3 & they will be 9 & 2 we would be 1 game out of having the # 1 seed in the AFC & mabye playing every game at home

  12. By Peyton Waukesha,WI on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    I followed the Jets in the 80’s because of Al Toon… Being from WI and a Badger fan/alumni I watched or read highlights of Al in 1985 until he was forced out of football because of a consusion. I do remember Al was the talk of NY in 88, with 37 seconds left in regulation, Toon caught the game winning touchdown pass from O’Brien to beat the Giants 27-21 knocking the Giants out of the playoffs.

  13. By Peyton Waukesha,WI on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    I forgot to put a name to the Al Toon article.

  14. By Ira on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    So no Jets game today and we are all watching and hoping for certain teams to lose like Denver [that will be a lot harder then people think] Titans and Colts. I get caught up in it too. Bottom line the Jets need to take care of their own business and just keep winning. Everything else will fall into place. GO JETS!!!!!

  15. By BIG AL on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    jak ex packer,iknew what you meant i was at ALLSTARS SPORTS BAR IN deerfield beach a south florida bar proudly sporting my jets attire the fish fans were going crazy and some were chanting the jets s@#@ @#@#@ #@# you guys know the chant.but the fact is they have an easy sched outside the div but lets hope they beat NE 1more X helps us out and looks like we will have tenn undefeated at tenn sun!!

  16. By BIG AL on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    and my thoughts today were of the jets needing to play 60 min of football next week it seems to me that they give 45min i was watching how tenn climbed back in the 2half to take control the jets will be victims of a loss if they dont pressure collins for 4qtr thats a fact we can win but it has to be 4qts nothing less why not sic gholsten on them as a rush defender for one game throw every one off.

  17. By Frank on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    Drew I think the MSG is clouding your already green smogged mind. The Jets won inspite of Mangini. The clearly more talented team won got it? Randy you make an excellent point about the 4th quarter and what I said previously which is the defense played well down the stretch until Mangini decided to turn into Herm Edwards in the last series. You don’t win championships that way!…Amen Joe Willie.

  18. By jak,ex packer 15 wk jet fan on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    ED i hope your wrong . sf and kc are playing tough and sf scares me their getting better. tom spicer i too was hoping jets would b the one to knock tenn off .and now it looks like jets will get the chance. though your later tenn loss logic is the wiser wish.

  19. By steven on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    I hope that the Jets will unleash Gholston as a secret weapon on the titans. There has to be a way to get him to pass the rusher and dominate the titans as a secret weapon the titans aren’t expecting

  20. By Glen on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    Mangini’s coaching style is to bring in smart players, teach them how to play, get feedback from them, add their suggestions into the game scheme, then turn them loose on the field. The stars in Thursday’s game shown brightly because of Mangini, not in spite of him. This Jets team is bound for greatness because of Mangini and his ability to draw out the best efforts and ideas from his team.

  21. By Ira on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    I know you can only get so many players the ball but the Jets have forgot about Stuckey. In the 1st 4 games he had 14 catches and 3 were for TD’s. After the bye he has only 6 catches and no TD’s in 6 games. His catch vs the Pats was his 1st in the last 3 games. The Titans will be looking for Keller so Stuckey could be open all day. They can’t cover everybody. Bring on the Titans. GO JETS!!!!

  22. By Xavion on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    Hey Randy Do Only receptions count? How about interceptions because kerry made 2 great 1’s back to back last year, The 1 handed grab over the WR vs Pitt. The great finger tip leaping grab in Dallas. My favorite though has to be J CO vs Pats when he got crunched got up & kept going. Also Baker has made some spectacular catches including the Force out in Cleveland even though the nfl got it wrong

  23. By Drew on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    You’re right Joe Wille Mangini is horrible?? Give me a break already. As to the Keller play. How many times do you see a player not know where he is on the field to get a first down let alone a rook? Youve been a fan for 100 years so tell me. It’s very easy to jump on board and complain and never be happy. I’m just not that guy. I see that were 7-3 and for the most part Mangini has done a good job

  24. By Ray on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    Ira, I am one that was rooting for Tenn. today. I like the idea of added pressure on them to try and stay undefeated. If they lost they would just be p.o.’d with us coming to town. We have a week and a half to come up with a good gameplan. Go Jets, Dismember the Titans!!

  25. By Xavion on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    Hey Randy Im watching all the games and Looking at what our seeding would be do you know if we would have a higher seed than pitt right now? Also Do you know if we got home field advantage in the conference Championship game and the Giants did too how the NFL would handle the Stadium Conflict?

  26. By Drew on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    Further more did his horrible coaching job allow us go up 18 in the 1st while totally confusing the Pats? Maybe I was watching a different game being the apologist and all? I have gotten on S-Schott, Sutton and Mangini when needed. Mangini killing??I dont get it? So far we are 7-3 and until Thursday little had to do with the arm of Favre. I keep pouring the Kool-Aid and some keep pouring it out!!

  27. By Glen on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    Drew, stick to your guns. The Jets could easily go 12-4 this year – they’ll be favored in 5 of their last 6 games. The offense is tied for 2nd in scoring. The defense is bending but not breaking. Special teams is one of the best in the NFL. This team is loaded with talent, and will soon be one of the elite teams in the NFL. In pro football you can’t go 7-3 with an incompetent head coach.

  28. By Xavion on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    I also have a great faith that we will win in Tenn in 7 days I wonder if it will be moved to a later Kick off. Would you know yet Randy?. I think Man coverage should be used with a lot of blitzing and stick Gholston or D Barrett on Bo scaife. As long as we pressure Kerry Collins he will make mistakes. Play him like we did 2 years ago in Tenn.

  29. By Mike Jet Vet on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    Here’s my take on the titans game .. WE stack up with them O-line D-line Our receivers QB running back & now our TE I believe are better . Our weaknesses… secondary & coaching …Both need to be addressed if we do that it will be very hard to beat us…. Our best games come on the road .. I believe E smith & Elam should play they bring the leather we need to hit them hard & often

  30. By Randy Lange on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    Xavion, if the season ended today (which it doesn’t), the Steelers have the edge on the Jets with a 6-1 conference record to the Jets’ 5-3. I’m checking on the scenario if there were to be a Jets-Giants conflict for the Meadowlands on a given Sunday in January.

  31. By Randy Lange on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    I do not believe the Jets-Titans 1 p.m. EST kickoff will be changed, Xavion.

  32. By Mike Jet Vet on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    Cont. Favre admits to his mistakes all the time & his legacy will be 4ever lasting will Mangini’s ?? I think not …So again no merit to what they say mostly embarrassing

  33. By CEDRIC on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    I was 2 out of 3 in teams that i wanted to lose, DEN & PIT won which i hated because i want the Jets to have the 2nd seed. Yea Ira that Denver game wil be tough. Cutler & Shanahan are no joke.

  34. By Mike Jet Vet on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    Joe willie.. you got that right 100% they do think the rest of fans don’t know football ,., We very easily lose that game if coin toss go’s the other way with that prevent D .. Oakland comes to mind .. Then it would have been well we played a g8 game hard to win in that environment crowd was to loud same excuses ,,But no excuse we had 18 point lead at the half… let them back in

  35. By fljetfan on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply


  36. By Mike Jet Vet on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    I believe if Ihedigbo out lasts the mangini waiver cuts & trades he will be a good DB & G8 enforcer he looks like a big hitter & real hungry to play .. But we’ll probably never know… Bet it wouldn’t hurt to check him out

  37. By Peyton Waukesha, WI on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    I watched the Titans game via internet. Collins 13/23 for 230 yds and 1 pick. Titans total yardage was 344, 116 rushing on 33 plays, less than 4 yds per carry. 10 penalties for 63 yds. They always start slow and score most of their points in the 2nd half. The Titans are not as good as the Pats and can be had by the Jets. We’ll have to knock them on their heels then push them over in last 2 qtrs.

  38. By Jeremy on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    Sutton really needs to address covering TE’s. You can’t expect Pace to man up against a talented receiving TE. Let Pace rush the Passer-If he puts pressure on the QB he can’t make that read! Jenkins is a beast lined up in a gap especially if another DT like Mosley or Pouha is next to him. If the JETS stack the box and force Collins to beat them I like our odds. Get Stuckey the Ball!

  39. By jak, 15 wk jet fan on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    well had to take the gb out of my call sign. started out as jak jak ex packer new jet fan, hopefully it’ll end up jak fan of superbowl 2009 champs the n.y.jets.BIG AL thats brave of you to fly amongst the fish fans with your jets green blazing.we can take tenn,someone posted that we should wear our titans throwbacks ..thatd be funny.

  40. By Mike Jet Vet on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    What Drew seems to forget mangini came in as a defencive guru If any 1 deserves credit for the improvement on offence & puts them in position 2 make plays is schotty … Jeez this is getting tiresome

  41. By walter on Nov 16, 2008 | Reply

    ok so watching the high lights of the jags and titans i do think we could pull off a win here…..i mean they got pressure from the jags and collins did throw some sloppy passes.i say we win. GOOOOO JETS JETS JETS

  42. By Howard on Nov 17, 2008 | Reply

    we have a chance to go to tenn. and prove ourselves to the nfl,its time to play hard nosed football,attack the tenn.offence,and mix up the tenn,defencewith formations, and personal. as for my favorite jets catch al toon between the legs against the seahawks for a touchdown, not sure of the yr.

  43. By Drew on Nov 17, 2008 | Reply

    Mangini cannot win with some of you. Lets go back 3 weeks ago when our “savior” Favre was throwing INT’s like it was his job. That’s when our “horrible” head coach changed the gameplan and won a huge game in Buffalo (one everyone we would lose with out a great Favre) and rolled 3 straight wins (2 road AFC east wins) This team is disciplined and smart. The grass isnt always greener guys!!

  44. By BidEd on Nov 17, 2008 | Reply

    Hey Randy I’m beginning to notice something about Farve I think opposing defenses will glean also. He tends to ride a particular receiver during a game. If he starts to find chemistry with that receiver you can be assured he’ll continue to look for him. Brings to mind a game against the Pats where it was 4th qtr do or die and the defense cued on Chrebet and surely Chad threw to him incomplete.

  45. By Mark on Nov 17, 2008 | Reply

    I do not understand why this game is not being flexed to Sunday night

  46. By Frank on Nov 17, 2008 | Reply

    Drew this is a simple question. Do you really beleive Mangini made the right decision going into the prevent defense on the last series? Especially considering how well the defense played in the previous series.

  47. By Frank on Nov 17, 2008 | Reply

    By the way Drew now you want to attack Favre you really are unhinged. Favre more than anyone else is responsible for where this team is so please stop the idiocy. Mangini keeps playing not to lose he will eventually blow the game that will matter most just like Herm did with the Steelers. He has the players to finish games just do it and stay consistant.

  48. By Blinka on Nov 17, 2008 | Reply

    Again & again until some one responds. The Jets style of 3-4. Rushing three and having defensive ends dropping into pass coverage I don’t get it. Why ignore what the Giants did to the Patriots in the Super Bowl. It seems we have defensive ends playing outside linebacker.

  49. By John on Nov 17, 2008 | Reply

    Indy and San Diego next Sunday night, what a joke. Jets and titans should have been flexed. way to go NFL, Nice to see that you know what you are doing. Lets go J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS.

  50. By bratt on Nov 17, 2008 | Reply

    Favorite catch by a Jet??? Gotta be Jumbo Elliot’s touchdown in the Monday Night Miracle against the fish! Hands so taped up, he looked like he was wearing casts. Amazing catch, amazing game, amazing night!

  51. By Ken on Nov 17, 2008 | Reply

    Guys don’t forget JERRICHO COTCHERY’s amazing catch against the PATS!
    I still can’t believe Jerricho caught that football. Great catch Jerricho! That catch should be on ESPN.

  52. By Drew on Nov 17, 2008 | Reply

    Frank I didnt want to play prevent but I also didnt forget that it would have taken a miracle for NE to tie the game. Cassel made a great throw but again we won the game. I wonder if Belicheck is getting killed for playing his prevent? You know the guy who has won all of those Super Bowls?? Plus to mention that Favre didnt play well in 3 of the last 5 wins is just honesty not idiocy.

  53. By Drew on Nov 17, 2008 | Reply

    Again… I hated rushing 3 guys and playing prevent. If we would have loss I would have been devastated but I’m also smart enough to understand why every coach in the NFL does it. The point is you guys are just waiting and almost hoping Mangini fails. Why else would he be getting killed when we have won 2 huge AFC east road games that most thought we lose? One Favre was great and one not so great.

  54. By Drew on Nov 17, 2008 | Reply

    Ex Jet please stop including yourself in the group of fans that know football. You’re a constant complainer who very rarely makes coherent point. Your Jet knowledge is weak and usually incorrect. I have my rivals on this site who I battle and even though I usual disagree with I can see understands football. You just are not one of them….But you are amusing is that counts for something.

  55. By jeff ircink on Nov 17, 2008 | Reply

    hi randy – boycotting Packer fan new to the Jets this year and this website. couple questions…

    1) i’m finding game highlights for individual players but no game highlights of the game itself. are they on the site and i’m just not seeing them?

    2. wouldn’ve emailed you directly but couldn’t find any of the reporter’s emails.


  56. By MikeMc on Nov 17, 2008 | Reply

    Frank, Drew doesn’t want to attack Favre I’m sure of that, maybe he is becoming unhinged I know I am. I want to analyze the finer points of the game but I am forced into defending this staff due to the ranting of you negative nancys. How come Joe Willie when a play is made the player gets the credit & when a player fails to execute the game plan its Mangini’s fault?We won the game.

  57. By Mike V on Nov 17, 2008 | Reply

    Best catch ever? Easy. Don Maynard in the 1968 AFL Championship for 50plus yards in the 4rth quarter. It is also the most important in Jets history.

  58. By Randy Lange on Nov 17, 2008 | Reply

    jeff, we are permitted to put up game highlights provided by NFL Network. All of our video gameday highlights can be found either on our homepage or by going to our Multimedia Home page, clicking on Gameday Highlights under Shows and selecting a video to watch under Episodes.

  59. By Alex on Nov 17, 2008 | Reply

    Randy do you think they Flex the Denver game we have

  60. By Randy Lange on Nov 17, 2008 | Reply

    We’ve received no word from the NFL yet on the Jets-Denver Week 12 starting time, Alex.

  61. By Drew on Nov 17, 2008 | Reply

    As usual my boy MikeMc makes some sense. Dont expect a reply to any of your questions though Mike. Most of the haters just like to rant not repsond to an actual intelligent question regarding the game. Especially when defending the “horrible” coach and his “awful” decesions. Just another day at the office. It’s 4am here but still feels like I’m home

  62. By Ed in Tucson on Nov 17, 2008 | Reply

    I’m with you, Bratt, on the Jumbo Elliott catch, and you’re right, WHAT A NIGHT! Re Mangini (E Man) bashing. Isn’t it the OC who calls the play on offense? I’ve seen some people knock E Man for the play calls. Let’s try to keep it real. Jak, 15 etc. that was me who suggested wearing the Titans of NY (ToNY) unis, I actually like the colors, but yeah I’d love to see the Clash of the Titans. Go Jets!

  63. By Row on Nov 17, 2008 | Reply

    Cotchery really wanted to prove to Eric he could still play. (with an injury) After Mangini basically benched him vs the Rams, he was eager to taste the end-zone. I did not bash Mangini at any point in the season. Moving on, we have to stop the best tandem RB’s in the league. Collins will flop and have a few patented Kurt Warner fumbles. We should win this one easy if we can stop the run. Go Jets

  64. By Frank on Nov 18, 2008 | Reply

    Hey Mikey Mc and Drew surely you don’t think I am rooting for Mangini to fail?Read what I say and don’t cherry pick thoughts. I very clearly stated I am rooting for Mangini. We all want the same thing only difference instead of butt kissing I point out things that need to be corrected. You both know that just about everything I have blasted Mangini for in the past he has changed for the better.

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