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SHOES: Two L’s in a Row, But All Is Not Lost

Posted by jetsstaff on December 8, 2008 – 3:54 pm

Jets fans, take a deep breath … that’s the best advice I have. After that take another. Maybe one more, just to be safe.

I know many of you have been hyperventilating for the past few weeks. For a while there it was for the best of reasons, after watching back to back road wins at New England and Tennessee many of you were probably short of breath as you started to dream dreams of Tampa and bringing your Giants fan buddy with you.

And you may have needed to grab the brown bag the past couple of weeks as well, as the Jets have dropped two in a row to two teams without near the reputation of the Pats and Titans. You’ve seen the pass rush disappear and the ball sail through the air with ease against the Jets secondary as a result, and emotions have swung back in the other direction in a huge way, which is something that happens weekly in the NFL.

And I remember doing our "Inside the Jets" radio show the week after the Jets lost at Oakland, talking to Jets fans that were panicked and depressed simultaneously, if that’s possible. And I remember preaching exactly the same thing then that I would say now.

This is the NFL. And outside of the Titans and Giants, every team in the NFL has a loss or two that is perceived to be as bad as a win over a title contender would seem good. The Jets are no different with losses to Oakland and San Francisco balanced off by those two huge road wins.

If you remember, when the Jets lost to the Raiders it was treated in some media circles as a nearly insurmountable loss that could crush a team’s season. What I said at the time was that the loss was certainly a bad one — the Jets themselves all knew that to a man. But what needed to be pointed out was that even after that loss, if the playoffs began that day, the Jets would have been a playoff team.

And in my opinion, in spite of these two most recent losses, and in spite of the fact that the Dolphins have had an amazing season to go from 1-15 to contender, and in spite of the fact that the Patriots have played themselves into contention without Tom Brady, the Jets are still the favorite to win their division. After all, if the playoffs began today, the Jets would be division champions. In the AFC East they still control their own destiny even after these last two losses.

The math is simple. The Jets have three games left. Win them all and the Dolphins and Pats can’t catch the Jets. Don’t let the tied records fool you. The Jets would win the tiebreakers — head to head against Miami because they would have to beaten them to end the season, and they would also only have one divisional loss, bettering both teams.

So take a deep breath, at least until kickoff vs. Buffalo on Sunday.


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47 Responses to “SHOES: Two L’s in a Row, But All Is Not Lost”

  1. By Mike V on Dec 8, 2008 | Reply

    The Jets better let Favre be Favre or it will the 40th straight year of “same old Jets.” If Weeb or Bill or Walt were coaching this team they would be 11-2 at worst. If Magini wants to be a real coach he needs to take a page from Weeb when he allowed Joe to be Joe and Johnny to be Johnny; let Favre be Favre. Walt would also be ranting at the defense – “stop standing around and hit somebody!”

  2. By Jimmy on Dec 8, 2008 | Reply

    Someone mentioned Favre and his arm looks TIRED & how can the JETS beat NE and the TITANS, and lose to the Broncos and the 49ERS? They r right, the league has made ADJUSTMENTS to the JETS game plan. MANGINI and his coaching staff have to make ADJUSTMENTS to the leagues Adjustments to the JETS game. Yes FARVE has been MISSING a lot of PASSES. Favre and his arm does looks TIRED!

  3. By fljetfan on Dec 8, 2008 | Reply

    is this guy kidding me. do you think we dont know that we hold tiebreakers and that all is not lost. problem is i was supremely confident two weeks ago and gaurenteed runnin the table and know this team is smoking and choking it away. ill watch next week with my heart in my throat against another team we should beat. ridiculous article!

  4. By CD on Dec 8, 2008 | Reply

    Sometimes it’s hard to remain positive, but I agree with the post. Maybe the Jets play better when the odds are not so good and the pressure to win is greater. Whatever the case, they seem to do well against the tougher opponents and not so great against the weaker teams. They all seem to bring their best game when the play the Jets. Three more Jets! Make up your minds and win!!!

  5. By Tom Spicer on Dec 8, 2008 | Reply

    Mangini is a hands off coach he lets his OC & DC call the plays there were whispers in the off season that he wanted Ryan from Oakland which tells me he was not in love with Sutton in the 1st place. Mangini needs to take over the D & start calling the plays dial it up cause what you are doing is not working BLITZ if we get beat on a deep pass where a LB blitzed & just misses the QB I will be fine

  6. By boomer on Dec 8, 2008 | Reply

    with a running game it may be possible. you are 31st in pass coverage and still rush 3 ???? you have the 4th best runner in nfl and he carry´s the ball only 10 times ??? that have to be corrected.
    in fact farve is great but he needs some help from his teammates.
    trust his arm and don´t give up your receiving routes

  7. By Tom Spicer on Dec 8, 2008 | Reply

    with that GO DOWN WITH A FIGHT but to sit there & let teams pick you apart all day. Stop rushing 3 it does not work you have to put heat on the QB to win in this game. On O run the ball it will set up the pass Jones should get at least 20 runs every game we were 8 & 3 on the verge of the 2nd seed & a bye now if we do not get it together PRONTO we will be out HOW CAN YOU BE 8 & 3 AND NOT MAKE IT

  8. By biglen on Dec 8, 2008 | Reply

    Much as I hate to say it,this team is snake bitten.No matter what we do or what we draft or what we spend,when push comes to shove we cannot make it. This team is doomed to mediocrity for all eternity

  9. By Tony C on Dec 8, 2008 | Reply

    The Jets were so bad yesterday that the 0-13 Detroit Lions produced more offense against a better defense.

  10. By Row on Dec 8, 2008 | Reply

    Buffalo looks sad, we will win this one. We need to forget the showboating spread offense and run the ball. Throw a few play action passes a game, no reason to open anything up. I don’t see how Buffalo can hurt us, Trent Edwards is worse then any QB on our team. I will say one thing, Favre needs to be on a short leash. We can’t lose this game, period. No more 99 yard penalties. Go Jets!

  11. By jet jeff on Dec 8, 2008 | Reply

    sorry but I hate that talk of if the playoffs started today we would be in, THEY DONT START TODAY, YOU HAVE TO WIN GAMES TO GET IN!! after what Iv seen I dont see us winning 3 straight , I WOULD BE SHOCKED & HAPPY

  12. By Greg From Albany on Dec 8, 2008 | Reply

    Did I see a request for Bill Cowher? Dude, are you serious?

  13. By Rob on Dec 8, 2008 | Reply

    I think we haven’t had an answer for short screens and slants all year. Besides that I think its great to have a humiliating loss, this will humble players down. But as playoffs…Still a jets fan so go JETS

  14. By Ray on Dec 8, 2008 | Reply

    I believe Mangini is one of those coaches that always plays the percentages. Thus the punt on 4th and 2, and his comments last week about fearing getting burned on the blitz. I would like to see him throw all that crap out the window. The blueprint on how to beat this team is very clear so unless he changes we are done. I will totally respect him if he throws caution to the wind and starts…

  15. By Ray on Dec 8, 2008 | Reply

    …..taking a “we got nothing to lose” attitude the rest of the way. I would rather lose taking chances all over the field than continue playing percentages. One more game like this and we are reduced to spoilers.

  16. By have another beer on Dec 8, 2008 | Reply

    Just End The Season. This seson if over and with that said mangini should be gone. If he is back next year then Sutton has to go. You cannot rush 3 all game and think u are going to win with this secondary.

  17. By Drew on Dec 8, 2008 | Reply

    Love the post B-Shoe but it will fall on deaf ears this week. Im keeping the faith but this loss really stung. I keep thinking back to the “riot” the fans almost started after the Oakland loss and the KC escape. The difference is I thought we had turned the corner and then we spit up against below avg teams. God forbid we struggle early Sunday. The team will be tighter than a drum. Scary time now!

  18. By Jjet jeff on Dec 8, 2008 | Reply

    Hey jimmy, ILL tell you what favre is , he is tired of sitting on the sidelines & watching this defense and wondering if he will ever see the field again

  19. By Drew on Dec 8, 2008 | Reply

    B-Shoe….There is no more optimistic Jet fan than I (except maybe Ira) but to say the Jets are the favorites to win the division? They have looked horrible and the other two teams have looked battled tested. Plus the Jets have to go out West again where they have proved what exactly? Also I hate when fans say “if the post season started today” Please dont be that guy…because It dosent!!

  20. By Billy Ho on Dec 8, 2008 | Reply

    I have been watching this team for 30 years and I have seen this movie before. How many times has this team had a season were they are in a position to lock up the division or a playoff spot and they cant get it done. This team had everything in their own hands, playing teams that they should have easily beaten with one of those games at home. If the Jets lose this week , same old JETS!!!!!

  21. By Rob on Dec 8, 2008 | Reply

    although these last two losses have been hard to watch, nothing comes easy in the NFL. i think after we beat the titans and the pats we just thought we could slack off the rest of the season. we have to get the ball moving and come up with big plays, we were averaging 31 points per game during the winning streak the secondary needs to step it up and make the 3rd down play if we do that we’ll be ok

  22. By GOLDCLAW on Dec 8, 2008 | Reply

    The Jets should win the next 2 games which would make them 10-5 and go into the shoot-out with Miami and Chad’s homecoming to New York a very exciting game!!–I hope the Jets defense gets mean and I hope the wide receivers will catch their passes!!–PLAY TO WIN!!!–GO JETS!!

  23. By FrustratedJetFan on Dec 8, 2008 | Reply

    I have seen this many times Bob…the Jets aren’t going to make it into the playoffs.Mark down this post. Did Bob grow up a Jet fan..be a Jet fan his whole life? This has happened year in and year out. They wont win three straight. And if they get so lucky to get in, they are one and done. They have NO answer for the underneath pass and neither does Mangini. Calling Bill Cowher !

  24. By chris on Dec 8, 2008 | Reply

    bob sutton must get fired this season he has no idea how to run a 3-4 defense and in the past two weeks i have seen no pressure on the quarterbacks

  25. By chris on Dec 8, 2008 | Reply

    the jets are very mediocore team ever since i remebr watching them now that we finally do have a qb our defensive backs are not doing so hot its time for bob sutton to go and romeo cronnel to come in!

  26. By Joe P. on Dec 8, 2008 | Reply

    Dear Woody … all I want for Christmas is a new coaching staff and GM in the off season. The number 6 pick in the draft – a total bust. Mangini can’t coach his way out of a paper bag. How do EMPTY SEATS sound to you Mr. Johnson? Your coaching staff is a laughing stock. Please, please, please … get rid of Mangini and Tannenbaum as soon as the Jets are eliminated.

  27. By Rick CalJet on Dec 9, 2008 | Reply

    Being along time jet fan and being from CA. has had its very rough times. Going to the games and showing my Green&White colors, like I did at the 9er game was painfull. Watching the game, I spoted a flat feel to the team. Did see the “D” getting caught zone coverage on 3rd downs and showing Blitz without disgising it very well. Seeing Rhoads look at the side lines after some of the secondary ….

  28. By ibleedgreen on Dec 9, 2008 | Reply

    i believe mangini lost a little confidence after that first fumble/touchdown in denver and was coaching shell-shocked from that point on…and it carried over to the niner game he was conservative at the wrong time and took risks at the wrong time (3rd-1, 4th-1 passes at denv; that wacky option pitch kickoff return that sealed our fate)…DONT TRY TO TRICK THESE TEAMS JUST PLAY BALL, UR A GD TEAM!

  29. By RichieRich on Dec 9, 2008 | Reply

    Most good teams experienced disappointing losses– losses that nobody would ever guessed possible. There are exceptions obviously for extremely dominant teams AND a little luck. The NFL is pros playing pros and ANY team can win at any time. I can recall one huge example, the UNSTOPPABLE ’85 Bears losing to Miami! Take this for what it is, bad game(s), don’t match up well against teams out West.

  30. By Mike Jet Vet on Dec 9, 2008 | Reply

    Mike Mc I have the # of a very good florist so you & Ira can sent flowers to Mr Martz with that apology .. How bout apologizing to us jets fans for the crap your boy Mangini had put us through .. But don’t worry about that hurting Mr Martz feelings are priority one .. God man will you say any thing at all to defend this coach

  31. By RichieRich on Dec 9, 2008 | Reply

    Coaches PLEASE let Favre play. Riskier but we WON games. Jets were NEVER good dink dunk. EASY to defend. The short game = tight field dense “D”, cramped T.Jones, covered receivers & tight throws. Short INT lethal. For fans that cried “INT” or “Would have won anway, was Jenkins, etc.”. We lost ONE player, Farve, not by injury but to fans & coaches
    Many Wins Playoffs
    Few heart breaks (e.g. Giants)

  32. By Linda Ueltschy on Dec 9, 2008 | Reply

    The two losses can in large part be attributed to the coaches’ unwillingness to commit personnel to rush and sack the quarterback. This was only accomplished once or twice (rushed) on Sunday and when it did, Hill threw a bad pass. I think everyone knows that there are risks to that strategy, but their prevent defense is only prohibiting wins, not QB pass completion.

  33. By Tony B. on Dec 9, 2008 | Reply

    We need to take the ball and jam it down there throats, Thomas Jones, Leon Washington, they are play makers, throw in some Farve screen passes, and play some smart defense. That’s where the coaching comes in. Why are these other teams receivers always wide open at times?? The coaches better het their heads togeather!

  34. By JET4 on Dec 9, 2008 | Reply

    It is true that we will be in playoffs IF we win next 3 games. But, what makes you think we will will all 3????? We had everything on the line- mia/ne catching up for the first spot yet, we still ended up losing horribly to the 9ers. It is not just enough to win next 3 but, we have to crush our opponents to have any prayer or making or advancing in playoffs. Where is the FIRE, can’t win without it

  35. By CD on Dec 9, 2008 | Reply

    I don’t think Favre or his arm are “tired”. He does’nt look like the same Brett and appears to be trying to behave himself and stick to the proposed game plan. I would hate to see #4 turn into the same old boring QB that most of the NFL teams have to put up with every Sunday. I think Farve is doing what he is told to do, and just trying to make the best of it. If so, he won’t be back!!!

  36. By Rich on Dec 9, 2008 | Reply

    I am not getting my hopes up until its week 17 against miami. I say that if we lose the next game or two that we let the phins win. I would rather see them in the playoffs than the pats. hopefully we win the next two tho and then see one hell of a final game! I am with Drew again… I wouldnt say we are favorites. this upcoming week will determine a lot! by the way the pats wont win out…

  37. By Rich on Dec 9, 2008 | Reply

    … because i hope everyone saw how lucky they got against the 2-11 seattle team. COME ON JETS LETS MAKE A RUN STARTING NOW!!!

  38. By peter allan on Dec 9, 2008 | Reply

    Well said Bob. Just what i needed to read.

  39. By walter on Dec 9, 2008 | Reply

    hey bob good article..it kind of bought my faith back alittle.lets not panic here jets fans we got this.our boys will come through for us and for them selves mostly.they dont want the season to end quite yet….not this way.we can do this.just keep the faith because we are fans and have no choice.this is it theres no turnin back now.J.E.T.S JETS JETS JETS

  40. By Row on Dec 9, 2008 | Reply

    The reason everyone is saying we have a good chance of not making the playoffs is the high records of other AFC contenders. If we don’t win the division, we don’t make the playoffs, other teams have better records for the wild-card. Favre has had no answer to opposing teams. Receivers still run routes, some of them are deep. I don’t know what is wrong, but it must be fixed. Go Jets

  41. By tommy on Dec 9, 2008 | Reply

    thanks bob i need someone to talk me off the ledge

  42. By Dustin on Dec 9, 2008 | Reply

    Just a few things..first the holding call was absolutely horrible..hands inside both guys not holding plain and simple…fine me NFL! SECONDLY CAN WE JUST BLITZ AND STOP THE BEND DONT BREAK PLAN…IF WE GIVE UP A BIG PLAY SO BE IT..it will be better than having our D on field for 50 mins! Wake up mangini and stop going by the coaching “book” where all the plays and situations are scripted…WIN!

  43. By Rick Hotmer on Dec 9, 2008 | Reply

    I HOPE YOUR RIGHT, MR.Bob Wischusen. ITS AMAZING HOW IT ALL WENT DOWN HILL AFTER BEATING 2 GREAT TEAMS.BUT SEASONS LIKE THESE SEEM TO BE THE NORM FOR THE JETS . BUT I’LL STILL HOPE FOR A MIRCLE.

  44. By bill barron on Dec 10, 2008 | Reply

    blah bla blah talk is cheap this is what happens when when you get a big head. Jets better prove it on the field. all #4 does anymore is whine about how old he is, shut your mouth and lead your team to the next three wins or go back to Greenbay and cry some more…Ticked off Jets fan in Indiana

  45. By at on Dec 10, 2008 | Reply

    problem is the season doesn’t end today and we all know the jets are goin 0-3 from here on out

  46. By MJIrish on Dec 10, 2008 | Reply

    Hey, layoff of Brett. He’s the reason this team is where it is. I’m not a Pack fan or a Jet fan but I am a Brett fan. Despite some losses late that can be blamed on every level of the team, Jets are on top. You Jets fans had better humble yourselves and act like this is the first time you’ve been contenders since Joe Hollywood. It’s no wonder this franchise has struggled. No support.

  47. By steve on Dec 10, 2008 | Reply

    If you want your team to win you got to support them instead of beat them down and say that they arent going anywhere. these jets are the best that there has been for a while and Im sure they arent going to just let these last two teams run over them.Tis team has alot of character and they will start to show it.

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