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Plax Is a Hot Summer Topic

Posted by Eric Allen on June 30, 2009 – 5:23 pm

Plaxico Burress has been a hot topic amongst Jets Nation throughout the spring and early stages of summer. Some fans want the Green & White to sign the talented receiver, some don’t want any part of the controversial figure and others want to take a wait-and-see approach.

Just the other day, I was walking down the street and exchanged greetings with one of my neighbors. It was a gentleman I hadn’t seen in some time and one of the first things he asked me about was Burress and if I thought the Jets would eventually sign the lanky 6’5", 232-pound wideout.

It’s a question I’ve been asked multiple times the past couple of weeks. The only thing we know for sure is the Jets made a call to Burress’s agent, Drew Rosenhaus, on draft weekend.

"We’ve done our due diligence on Burress," said Jets head coach Rex Ryan. "We’ve had conversations. I know Mike [Tannenbaum] had a conversation with his agent, [Drew] Rosenhaus. With any good football player, we’re going to try to get as much information as we possibly can."

And if I’m a fan, that’s all I can ask for. Tannenbaum, who continually has his staff turning over rocks, is as savvy as they come and he’s always looking for ways to improve his football team. And it’s a unique situation to have a talent like Burress just sitting out there without a team as we enter July.

Before minicamp concluded, NYJ.com reporter Tim Carlson asked Jerricho Cotchery if he’d be surprised if the Jets pursued Burress.

"It wouldn’t surprise me at all," J-Co said. "Plaxico Burress on the market, at this time of year, that doesn’t happen. That doesn’t happen in the NFL and to have that type of guy on the market, you have to inquire about him."

On a recent twitter post, Rosenhaus said five teams are interested in acquiring Burress and he expects more to "join the mix." But who says Burress, who fired an unregistered gun in a NYC nightclub last November and is facing weapons charges, will even play next season?

Jason Cole wrote about Burress on Yahoo Sports today and touched on a key figure who I think people are overlooking in all of this.

"NFL commissioner Roger Goodell is leaning toward indefinitely suspending former New York Giants wide receiver Plaxico Burress and continuing to sideline quarterback Michael Vick three sources with knowledge of the situations have indicated," Cole wrote.

Burress’ case has been adjourned until September and his lawyer, Benjamin Brafman, has said that a trial might not take place until next year. While Rosenhaus wants a deal for Burress before training camps commence, I can’t imagine a team signing Burress without knowing his status for the ’09 season. And even if Burress is cleared in the courts, Goodell has the option of hitting him up for a lengthy suspension.

Cole’s article quotes a league source who says, "The commissioner would rather have the prosecutors take some action before he does anything, but he’s prepared to do something regardless if he has to."

Goodell hasn’t been in power long, but you should take time to review his reign. This is a man, a former Jet intern by they way, who takes player conduct very seriously. So it shouldn’t come to a surprise to anybody if Burress is suspended indefinitely and misses a large chunk/if not all of the season.

Rest assured, the Jets will always do their due diligence and they deserve credit for their approach. But the players on the roster can’t worry about that, so we’ll anticipate an interesting battle for the No. 2 receiver position between Chansi Stuckey, Brad Smith and David Clowney. Tight end Dustin Keller will also only get better as a pass catcher in his second season and Ryan has implemented a "ground and pound" offensive philosophy.

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79 Responses to “Plax Is a Hot Summer Topic”

  1. By Jetsfolife on Jun 30, 2009 | Reply

    I really don’t think we need Plax. Sure it looks so good on paper, to have such a tall and accomplished receiver added to the mix. Especially if Sanchez starts. But the fact is, problems off the feild always lead to on the field. We don’t need all this controversy surrounding us. The only way I would welcome him is if it is guaranteed he can play the entire season and only signs a 1 year deal.

  2. By old school on Jun 30, 2009 | Reply

    let Plaxico take a hike. I’m from N.Y. and a big Jets fan, but have lived in Pittsburgh for 25 years. The reason he’s not playing righr now with the steelers is the same reason he’s not with the Giants, stupidity.

  3. By Ira on Jun 30, 2009 | Reply

    EA, I was waiting for this topic all day. Goodell should lay the hammer and suspend him until after the trial is complete. Can the Jets use a talent like his? Of course but the dude was 28 min to his court date on the 15th.He has learned nothing. I don’t want him. EA your last paragraph i am on the same page as you. Go with what you have and see how the summer plays out. GO JETS!!!!

  4. By 36 year fan on Jun 30, 2009 | Reply

    Roger Goodell is correctly most powerfull in this decision. I think we can give plax another chance. He made a mistake. He missed last season.The Giants fired him. He shot himself in the leg.I think he’s learned his lesson.It’s a Probation case.Unless they really want to make an example of him .He wasn’t trying to hurt anyone.Dont forget the right to bear arms is gauranteed in our Constitution.

  5. By Ira on Jun 30, 2009 | Reply

    I hate to repeat myself but i will. In 2000 the Jets top WR’s were Chrebet,Ward and LC as a rookie. Curtis and Anderson had more combined catches 158 the those three.That team was 9-4 before losing the last 3 games. The Jets this year could come close to breaking their all-time record for rushing attempts for a season. It was 634 in 1979.

  6. By Ira on Jun 30, 2009 | Reply

    EA, They must p/u a blocking TE so they can run the ball like they say they want to. No knock on Franks but him staying healthy is a concern. Keller will really end up being their #2 WR. But when Keller is lined up at TE i expect to see Smith and Stuckey rotate as the #2 depending on ewhat type of packages they have out on the field. Don’t count out Wright getting in the mix and Henry too.

  7. By Vince-Florida on Jun 30, 2009 | Reply

    Nice article on Plax, Eric! But did anyone notice how lost Eli Manning was without Plax out there towering over the safeties and cornerbacks? Without Plax, the Giants were simply not going to the Superbowl. Yes, he made a mistake. But he sure would improve the traditionally small typical Jets WR’s of Herm’s time and Mangini’s. Go Jets and lobby for Plax!

  8. By uncle joe on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    Plax’s agent keeps pushing the trial back in order to let Burris play pretty much his last season.If his lawyer thought he could win the case he would of did it already.Plax had an illegal handgun with one in the chamber at a club in Bloomberg’s city.The Mayor wants to hang him. Goodell will not allow Burress to grab some quick checks before he goes to prison.

  9. By uncle joe on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    Teams know he wont be able to play,that’s why they are all acting like they wouldn’t want him.There is not one team in the NFL that couldn’t use a talent like Burress,but at his age and with his legal problems,he played his last game already.

  10. By Ira on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    Vince there are 2 players over the past 10 years that the Jets have never replaced. Keyshawn and Abraham. Rex’s system will get to the QB but they still don’t have that pure premier pass rusher.As for a tall WR well i really want to see what Henry can do this summer and i think they have a PS player in Whittaker. Both are 6’4″. Raymond at 5’10″ never gets ink but he is a long shot with talent.

  11. By Ira on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    Why is the NFL the best pro sports league? Because they get it right with their players 99% of the time and the way they run their business. P.Harvin who had to leave the Rookie Symposium because he was sick will have to attend the 2010 according to reports today.

  12. By uncle joe on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    Hey Vince-Florida,Eli needs Burress because he isn’t a very good QB.Big Ben’s done pretty well without him.We don’t need a #1 WR,we have a bunch of potentially great #2s that can rotate in and exhaust DBs plus contribute in other areas as well,I personally liked the way Stuckey looked at safety in last years Pre-Season games,he, Wright & B.Smith are all very valuable.Let the scrappy young guys play

  13. By Patrick leibel on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, forget about Plax and go give Matt Jones a chance, this guy has all the tools and in my opinion he is less of a liability for the club.(he is not a cancer to his team or teammates just to himself)

  14. By wayne on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    Ira, NFL players would emphatically disagree with you considering that their contracts are drawn up in disappearing ink. Also, there are far too many instances of situations like Stallworths’, Burress’,Pacman’s,Ellis’, Michael Irvin’s for us to pat the NFL on the back for being a shining example of how to effectively run a sports league.Can Godell improve things? Doubt it.It’s a societal issue.

  15. By wayne on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    At first I was all for grabbing Plax, but I changed my opinion. It’s apparent to me Plax hasn’t learned from this and that could make him a problem.First sign that a person has learned lesson is when they own up and takes responsibility and face the consequences.He obviously sees no reason to pay for breaking the law.THAT’S A PROBLEM. Matt Jones.huge tools.Did nothing.It’d be more of the same.

  16. By 36 year fan on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    Ira, There’s a bunch of players that are simply irreplacable. Curtis Martin , Wayne Chrebet, Keyshawn Yes,Anthony Becht , Kevin Mawai ( remember how he’d knock two guys down on every play) We do have a great center now though.Plax would be a great fit on the jets, Amani Toomer is still out there too. Its too bad we didn’t do some “due dilligence” when Tony Gonzalez jumped that sinking ship.

  17. By 36 year fan on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    Plax allready missed all last season,and had to deal with all the pain of shooting himself. Plus he got fired, and he’s going to stand trial.Thats enough punishment for this young man dont you think? Remember Micheal Jackson didn’t do any time at all !

  18. By BGB on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    36 year fan, I love it. He wasnt trying to hurt anyone? Why do else would you carry a gun? For protection? How do you protect yourself with a gun? Oh yeah that’s right you hurt them.

    And yes the constitution gives the right to bare arms. Just not in public, with the chamber loaded. I’m pretty sure our forefathers did not have Plax’s circumstance in mind when they wrote that.

  19. By Vincent Coster on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    He may be a good reciever, but I really dont like the idea of having him on the team because as Patrick said, he is a cancer. Plax is a liability to the team and could be more of a problem than he is worth. We got a good bunch at wide out, and they are team players. Lets not ruin the chemistry just to get a big name, with a big ego to match.

  20. By Vincent Coster on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    He may be a good reciever, but I really dont like the idea of having him on the team because as Patrick said, he is a cancer. Plax is a liability to the team and could be more of a problem than he is worth. We got a good bunch at wide out, and they are team players. Lets not ruin the chemistry just to get a big name, with a big ego to match.

  21. By 36 year fan on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    Hey Ira, Plaxico wasn’t 28 minutes late reeling in the superbowl winning catch though was he ?

  22. By OriginalJetFan on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    Eric, what can you tell me about this TE Andrew Davie, 6’6″ 272, 27 yrs old rookie, from Arkansas. he blocked for McFadden there, and was a minor league baseball player and supposedly has good hands. can he be the blocking TE to compliment Keller?

  23. By 36 year fan on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    I’ll bet you’d be more willing to forgive and forget if Plax was reelin’ in catch after catch. In the jets green.

  24. By 36 year fan on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.

  25. By mike on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    I have to agree with leaving plax alone…..if we feel compelled to find a “no. 1″ wr why not throw out hat into the branon marshall mix he was good for 1000+ and tds if denver is gonna self destruct why should we not benefit? I also think that our wr core is fine and that we will be very serious contenders for the big dance within the next 3 years with our new talent developing together

  26. By Eric Allen on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply


    Davie is an interesting story. It would be difficult to tell you how he looks as a blocker right now because these guys didn’t have pads on in the spring. Jack Simmons, a rookie from Minnesota, flashed his hands in the spring and caught a lot of balls. But let’s see how these young TEs fair in training camp.

  27. By Big Mike on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    I personally feel that the jets should go ahead and grab plax. I say this because the jets dont have a playmaker wide reciever. i like stuckey and clowney but the truth is the truth. A new quarterback like sanchez needs someone to throw the ball too.the jets have not had a deep threat reciever since AL TOON. I also have a single question. Why did the jets not go after one of ther veteran recievers

  28. By Vaed on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    Plex isn’t right for our team, our team seems to have pretty good chemistry… but Ira, why tossing abraham in there? He was injured every time we really needed him to come through, and never played in pain… he has tons of talent, but no hart.. and he is not suited for our system anyways.. And i can think of others we never could replace, ala Rob Moore
    Heck Terrance Mathis…

  29. By Damone on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    i dont want em,dont need em!!

  30. By Howard on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    i like what we already have at wr. with all the talent plax has hed be a great addition, but simply put i wouldnt want him on my team

  31. By Greg from Albany on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    I’m not saying we need to bring Burress or Marshall here, but how can you say, “I like what we already have at wr?” We have needed a stud receiver for some time now and I, for one am tired of the goal line fade (a fave of schotty)being thrown to 5′ 10″ receivers. We’re overdue to upgrade at WR. I don’t think Plax is a good fit for this team, but I like the fact that they have conidered the option.

  32. By Alex on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    Honestly Plaxico has had his share of problems . Hes a really talented reciever who no one will give him a chance because of mistakes he did off the field. I think if the Jets do sign Plaxico he wouldnt be doing crazy things off the field because he is trying to redeem himself from last years bad choices. Also if a team actually did give him a chance and he messes up i think suspension not good

  33. By uncle joe on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    Hey Ira,I’m with Vaed on that Abraham comment.He broke our hearts countless times,plus we exchanged him for one of the best centers in the game for the next ten years,so I think you could say we did sought of replace him.

  34. By Mike on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    I am a huge optimist when it comes to my favorite teams. However, I feel that without Plaxico Burress we wont have the necessary ingredients to produce victories next season. He is a big time gamebreaking player that is an actual threat to the opposing defense. If we dont add a wideout, green-n-white will have problems. Eric, who are the deep threats at reciever for the jets as of now?

  35. By Ira on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    36 yr fan,
    I give Plax credit for the great game he played in the NFC Championship game in GB in sub-zero degree temps. But please that TD catch in the SB anybody could’ve caught. I believe it was Hobbs who blitzed and left Plax wide open on that play. Manning deserves the credit for p/u the blitz and Belichick should’ve played them straight up on that play.

  36. By Ira on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    36 yr fan,
    Everybody deseves a second chance in most cases. Forget about his charges right now. The Giants have fined him 50 plus times for many things. Sorry i am old school and don’t want a headache like that. Plus i feel a 1st year HC and proabaly a rookie QB starting doesn’t need that either.Imagine the circus in camp if he were able to play. I think it would be a PR nightmare.

  37. By 36 year fan on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    Eric I agree those tight ends look great. They got the size to knock people down too.

  38. By Eric Allen on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    Plax’s career 15.5-yard average is very impressive. He’s also eclipsed the 1,000-yard mark in four of his nine pro seasons. But I don’t necessarily think the Jets can’t win without Plaxcio.

    I’m a big fan of Jerricho Cotchery (who can get downfield occasionally – ask Miami and New England) and Dustin Keller’s going to continue to get better. We know David Clowney has great speed and maybe he can develop. Chansi Stuckey is more quick than fast, but he’s a nice target and Brad Smith is versatile and has good hands. Will another player be added to the mix or will someone emerge from that group? Let’s also not forget the Jets are going to become more of a running team next season.

  39. By 36 year fan on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    That guy Jack Simmons is a really good basketball player too. That kind of rythym, timing, and speed should come in handy.

  40. By OriginalJetFan on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    Hopefully Plax coming will be academic because he’ll probably be suspended for the season. If not the talent is enticing, but like all “forbidden fruit” the gain isnt worth the risk in the long run. Seems like they have a good locker room, this guy with his latenness and attitude could curdle fresh milk!!

  41. By 36 year fan on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    There’s going to be a media circus in New York no matter what. We might as well throw fuel on this fire, and get some excitement going. Sell some tickets.

  42. By 36 year fan on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    We gotta roll the dice. Take some chances. I’ve been waiting since Joe Namath. Thats alot of years. We gotta just jump off the cliff, NOW, We can build our wings on the way down.

  43. By jetchick on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    It is rather interesting that this commissioner feels it necessary to be judge, jury and executioner. His fines and suspensions for minor small potato stuff are absurd and out of line.

    We have in place a legal system to meter out justice. If he likes metering out justice let him start taking care of retired football players who got paid peanuts and are suffering from terrible injuries.

  44. By duaine on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    I think we might a diamond in the rough and we should search keenly. Jets just p/u a 6′ 5″ wr didn’t we? So lets take our time and look, many times u see a team give away their talent. So give the HC & GM a chance to look @ what they have and I am sure they want to win just has much as we want to do badly. Lately they have been trying to make the right choices. GO jETS!!!!!

  45. By Ira on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    EA, Great answer to Mike’s comment. You took the words right out of my mouth. J-Co is so underated and you’re right just ask Belichick what he thinks of him. I think they doubled him last year instead of LC. You know i have been talking up Keller all offseason. And i thought Stuckey was a keeper during the 07 camp. Remember 634 attempts is the magic # to rush the ball. GO JETS!!!!!

  46. By Anonymous on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    How can you argue with the pure talent, size and speed of Burress what more could any young QB whether it be Clemens or Sanchez ask for than a player of that caliber to have as a primary target, look at the difference he was to the Giants with him they were superbowl champions and without him they couldn’t win a playoff game.

  47. By Dino on Jul 1, 2009 | Reply

    Keep Burris where he is. Rex brings in the alumni for team morale etc. and then if they sign this guy, it’s like having a cancer in the locker room. See what Clowney and Stuckey do, and keep the unity on the team. Why not try to sign Vick while theyr’e at it??!!! Have a little class for crying out loud. Godell doesn’t seem to be so convinced that this guy is ready for sainthood yet.

  48. By KINGOFALLJETFANS on Jul 2, 2009 | Reply

    Who are the Jets going to throw the ball to…who can be the big playmaker…who can strike fear in defensive secondaries around the league. Ask yourself where the Jets are going this year. Sign Plax to a 3 year deal contingent on playing time. No wide receivers = no chance. Ground and pound works when you have alternative weapons. Jets need help.

    P.S.-pray for Bolden next year


  49. By KINGOFALLJETFANS on Jul 2, 2009 | Reply

    Who are the Jets going to throw the ball to…who can be the big playmaker…who can strike fear in defensive secondaries around the league. Ask yourself where the Jets are going this year. Sign Plax to a 3 year deal contingent on playing time. No wide receivers = no chance. Ground and pound works when you have alternative weapons. Jets need help.

    P.S.-pray for Bolden next year


  50. By Bill Kelly on Jul 2, 2009 | Reply

    As talented a receiver as Burress is, why in the world would you add him to the mix?? As I see it, Rex is implementing ( and rightly so ) a serious ball control scheme. He is planning to lean heavily on the “D” to limit opponents to 10-17ppg, thus giving Sanchez time to evolve into a serious pro QB. There is plenty of time to see what Jerico can do as well as Smith, Stuckey, and Clowney.

  51. By Ray on Jul 2, 2009 | Reply

    Several people in here have mentioned how many times the Gmen have fined Plaxico. Just for the record, Tom Coughlin hands out fines like tic tacs. He not only fined people for being late to meetings, he fined them for being too EARLY!! The issue will be whether Goodell is going to suspend him and for how long. And no team will touch him until that question is answered.

  52. By Ira on Jul 2, 2009 | Reply

    To back up EA’s statement “But i don’t necessarily think the Jets can’t win without Plax” here is the proof. The Fish finished 11-5. Clearly they had no #1 WR with Ginn Jr.,Camarillo,and Bees. Fasano is their biggest threat. They finished ranked 10th overall in passing with those wideouts. J-Co,Stuckey and Keller are so much more talented then what the Fish have. The Jets will be fine.

  53. By Ira on Jul 2, 2009 | Reply

    Fasano and martin [Fish's TE's] combined for 65 catches,904 yds and 10 TD’s. Schotty should be able to get those types of #’s out of Keller alone if he is used properly. My main concern is depth at WR. And thats why they proabaly will be up a veteran at some point during the summer. And please forget about M. Harrisn and B. Marshall its not happening.

  54. By Anthony on Jul 2, 2009 | Reply

    Plaxico is a great reciever but besides being fined he hardly showed up to practice. Coughiin is a no nonsense coach who won the superbowl. So I think his FInes are most likely very well warranted. We definitely need another big WR I have faith in our bunch though. I think they can get the job done.

  55. By wayne on Jul 2, 2009 | Reply

    Better than MIA, N.E. won 3 SBs before Moss and Welker arrived, outside of Troy Brown we probably could name the other WRs…If you bring a guy in who thinks he can get away with anything and everything, you have to wonder the effect it can have on the young guys.It can ruin any long term aspirations of success..Rookie symposium??Plax, Matt Jones? Mgt tell rookies one thing then do another.

  56. By Ira on Jul 2, 2009 | Reply

    Last year the Ravens leading WR was Mason with 80 catches followed by Clayton 41, Heap 35, Rice 33, and McGahee 24. But they ran the ball 592 times that was the key. J-Co had 71, LC 70, Keller 48, Leon 47, TJ 36, and Stuckey 32. Keller will replace LC’s #’s while Stuckey get near that 50-55 mark. Leon and TJ make up the difference. Once again the Jets goal should be top 634 rushing attempts.

  57. By wayne on Jul 2, 2009 | Reply

    Forgiveness has nothing to do with not wanting Plaxico on the Jets’ roster.The question is, are we really forgiving Plax for the right reasons? Are we forgiving him for the Ws or because we’re concerned about his rehabilitation?.Stop it with the forgiveness, please, 36yr fan….Plaxico is a bad idea.It says all the wrong things to your team.It says we can’t win with you.

  58. By OriginalJetFan on Jul 2, 2009 | Reply

    if we were talking about getting one of the two other WR’s unhappy with their contracts, sure bring em in, it makes us better at the WRposition. Plax has too much baggage. That being said, Jericho will have 80+ catches, Stuckey will have 65-70, keller in mid 50,s and Clowney only 35 or so, but he’ll average 19-20 yds/catch. QB’s need to Play action to compliment run and we’ll be fine.

  59. By 36 year fan on Jul 2, 2009 | Reply

    Ira – Side by side comparisons to the fish are irrelevent. How do we compare next to Randy Moss, And Terrell Owens? We were clearly outcoached by Parcells, and his puppett. Also Pennington was always better than Farve. It might not be a bad idea for the jets to try the wildcat. Its perfect for teams that got no offense.

  60. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Jul 2, 2009 | Reply

    Agree on chemistry, Plax ain’t a great choice for that and he won’t come cheap, let’s reward the guys we got instead. Keyshawn? Borderline bust as far as I’m concerned, never lived up to the hype, especially as a deep threat. Plus Chrebet’s work ethic and attitude made him look like an amateur. And what’ll help Sanchez is growing up with our young guys, like when Keller refers to “my man Stuck.”

  61. By Ira on Jul 2, 2009 | Reply

    I can’t believe that Pace fell into this. Not a good way to start off the season. Well like EA wrote we will see what the young guys have. My prediction is that Murrell or Trusnik open as the starting OLB in Pace’s spot.

  62. By Row on Jul 2, 2009 | Reply

    Now Gholston has to start, pitiful. They hand you a list of approved substances, and you juice anyway. Pace has shamed our organization. We can’t afford Marshall, although he would be a stud, b/c of Williams DUI, no one is pursuing him. I see no one coming in, now our D will be more questionable. They may as well just ban anyone with a felony charge from the NFL. Go Jets

  63. By Ira on Jul 2, 2009 | Reply

    36 yr fan,
    You don’t have to sell me on Chad. I wouldn’t have done that deal. Anyway everybody is talking about the Wildcat. Well guess what DC’s are very smart and every team in the league will be ready for it. It will not be as effective for any team around the league. You might hit a big play once in awhile but nobody including the Fish will have that much sucess with it like in 08.

  64. By Ira on Jul 2, 2009 | Reply

    It will be very difficult to fill Pace’s shoes for the 1st four game. Especially since they are playing the Saints #1, Texans #3, and Pats #5 ranked offensive teams from their 08 stats. But i really like the potential of Murrell and trusnik and think they can fill in. Gholston i still feel will see more time as a pass rusher instead of an every down OLB.

  65. By Ira on Jul 2, 2009 | Reply

    It will be intersting to see how they all get reps during camp.Pace needs his work but i would think that he gets more reps with the 2nd and 3rd teams so Murrell,Trusnik and Gholston work more with the 1st unit. Cemistry is so important and thsi is Rex’s first big test coming up in 29 days.

  66. By Walt on Jul 2, 2009 | Reply

    Well here we go again the annual jets self destruct program. Last year they dumped Chad for Farve and now their best defensive player Pace gets suspended for a quarter of the season.I can’t wait to see them start a rookie at quarterback won’t that be fun.

  67. By Dino on Jul 2, 2009 | Reply

    To Jets Fan Since 64 Tom….I agree with you about Keyshawn. Much overrated and Chrebet had a ton more clutch catches than he did. Keyshawn kept other players upset constantly with his big mouth and selfish attitude. ‘the Jets need more guys like Curtis and not like Burris. Chemistry, trust etc. go a LONG way on a football team. It;s not like the Jets are desperate at WR. I love this team!

  68. By TonyC on Jul 2, 2009 | Reply

    C. Pace, are you serious? What’s next, D. Revis assaulting a stripper or J Co accidentally shooting himself? It’s a slow time of the year when it comes to team news. I don’t want to hear anything but good news!

  69. By damone on Jul 2, 2009 | Reply

    WOW,I cant believe no one has hope for Gholston.People are saying Murrell or Trusnik will get the start?!If they do get the start over Gholston then there is ABSOLUTELY no hope for him.If he doesn’t prove hands down that he deserves to be the starter,then yes indeed he will be a bust in my book!!

  70. By damone on Jul 2, 2009 | Reply

    WOW,I cant believe no one has hope for Gholston.People are saying Murrell or Trusnik will get the start?!If they do get the start over Gholston then there is ABSOLUTELY no hope for him.If he doesn’t prove hands down that he deserves to be the starter,then yes indeed he will be a bust in my book!!

  71. By Nep Oznat on Jul 2, 2009 | Reply

    Calvin Pace quickly became a favorite player on the D for me. Now I feel very let down and I can never feel the same way about him again. He is right – he let his teammates down and the defense will not be as good as it could have been in the all important beginning 4 games. Shame on you, Calvin.

  72. By Dino on Jul 2, 2009 | Reply

    Walt………..Don’t panic yet. The Jet’s traditionally don’t self destruct until late November or so. I’m hoping this year is different. As for Chad being traded to make room for Favre, I don’t like how it was handled but supported the move. Favre added a whole other dimension with his arm strength etc. It just didnt work out like expected. Tannenbaum should be MVP for his EFFORTS all around

  73. By Dino on Jul 2, 2009 | Reply

    Ira….good point about Pace and the others getting reps with the 1st unit. I agree about chemistry, and if it was the O line, it would be critical but I think it is manageable at the LB position a little more. Not good news but something I believe Rex and a veteran like Pace can work through. It can only help Gholston. Still excited about this defense!!

  74. By Ira on Jul 3, 2009 | Reply

    At work but a Happy and Safe 4th to all. Dino, I agree with you. If it were the o-line it would be more of a challenge to get them all on the same page. I think we will see a lot more 4 man fronts. I can see Gholston line up outside as a DE with Harris in the middle and Thomas and Scott on the outside. I still think Murrell and Trusnik will take advantage of this chance. GO JETS!!!!

  75. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Jul 3, 2009 | Reply

    Back at ya, Dino, on Keyshawn — if we’re gonna start “wishing we had somebody like…,” I’ll take Maynard, Sauer, and Walker. I also felt exactly the same way about Favre, it was worth a shot and when it didn’t really work, the Jets weren’t afraid to admit it and move on. And I don’t get how this happened to Pace (like I didn’t get how it happened to Ainge, Ranger46), but Gholston could step up.

  76. By Dino on Jul 3, 2009 | Reply

    Ira…I’ve been wanting to see a 4 man front for a long time with a guy like Gholston at DE. I dont know much about the other two guys. To Jets Fan since 64…..It;s nice you included Walker. He was very underrated and so explosive even though he did drop some big catches. He was a great reciever, and Maynard,Sauer,Lammons and Namath were the best corps ever in my opinion. Maynard was great!

  77. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Jul 5, 2009 | Reply

    Thanks, Dino — and who are these folks who underrate Walker? The year he was all-NFL first team everywhere, ’78 I think it was, he was virtually unstoppable, one of the best deep threats in the game since the days of Alworth, Warren Wells, Homer Jones and so on. And he held up strongly, playing well even in later years with injuries. Sauer and Lammons don’t really get enough credit, either.

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