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Clinkscales Once More Predraft on Rex, Etc.

Posted by Eric Allen on April 13, 2010 – 5:39 pm

The Jets started their 2010 draft Sunday night by agreeing on a trade that will bring them Steelers WR Santonio Holmes in exchange for a fifth-round pick (No. 155 overall).

Joey Clinkscales, the Jets’ vice president of college scouting who ironically played wide receiver for the Steelers in 1987 and worked for them as a scout from 1989-93, and the Jets still own selections in Rounds 1, 2, 4, 6 and 7. And the man who oversees the Jets scouting operation is looking forward to his second draft with head coach Rex Ryan.

“He’s very involved in the process. He’s been fantastic,” Clinkscales said of Ryan. “He lets us do our job, he comments. He has a strong opinion and everything is weighed, and obviously he’s the leader of this ship as far as the type of players he wants on this team. We gather the information, we talk about it and we go from there.”


None of the prospects have played for their college teams since January, but draft news has been constant with events like the Indy combine and pro days.

“That’s a piece of the puzzle,” said Clinkscales. “The main part of the puzzle is the tape and how each player played during the year. The pro days and the combine should confirm as far as his play skills everything that you already know.”

When you’re in charge of evaluating more than 1,400 players across the nation, your scouts will not only travel to powerhouses like Alabama and Texas but they’ll also need to monitor what’s happening at smaller schools like Albany and Tuskegee.

“The kid from Alabama will have played against better competition,” said Clinkscales, in his 16th season with the Jets. “But at the end of the day, you have to weigh the athletic ability, obviously the intangibles, the character and those things. You have to weigh the way he plays his game and that’s the most important thing.”

Suh, McCoy and Tebow

Some teams might have a pair of defensive tackles — Ndamukong Suh and Gerald McCoy — as the two highest-rated players on their boards.

“Ndamukong is a very powerful, big man. He has some explosion, he’s strong and he’s able to rush the passer. There are a lot of things that he brings that you can’t teach because he’s such a large man [6’4”, 307]. McCoy has a similar game. He can be explosive, but he’s really quick, he can slide through gaps and he’s quick with his hands.”

Although the Jets aren’t in the market for a quarterback, perhaps the most talked-about prospect this offseason has been Florida QB Tim Tebow.

“All I’ll say is Tim Tebow was one of the most prolific players in college football history. He’s a very bright kid, he has a knowledgeable head and he knows football,” said Clinkscales of the two-time national champion and former Heisman Trophy winner. “So whatever changes he needs to make, I think he’ll be willing to make. Now you have to see that on the field, but from the time his season ended to this conversation, he’s done everything he needs to do.”

Rush Conversions

The Jets, who have made a play for free agent pass rusher Jason Taylor, might try to add to their pass rush next week. Since they operate in a 3-4 front and the overwhelming number of college teams line up in a 4-3, Jets scouts have to predict how some college ends will convert to outside linebackers in their system.

“That’s a little bit more difficult because the college defensive end plays a lot different than the pro style defensive end because of the technique. The main thing is you have to go to a school and find out what he’s being taught because some things transfer over and other things don’t,” Clinkscales said. “Most college defensive ends aren’t 6’5” and 295, 300 — those are rare. Usually in college, some of those guys are inside players. Usually if you find a guy 265, 250, usually in the 34 he has to translate over into linebacker, the Sam [strongside] or the rush ‘backer.”

Top Wideouts

With the acquisition of Holmes, the Jets have assembled a talented set of targets for Mark Sanchez when you include receivers Jerricho Cotchery and Braylon Edwards, tight end Dustin Keller and running back LaDainian Tomlinson. Most draftniks have Dez Bryant, an Oklahoma State product, atop their receiver lists.

“He played great when he was able to play. Now he wasn’t able to play but three games this past season before he was ruled ineligible, but he has a lot of ability,” Clinkscales said. “You can compare to him some other guys like the kid [Michael Crabtree] last year who went to the 49ers. He does have similar traits and physically he is gifted.”

Georgia Tech’s Demaryius Thomas is an excellent athlete who played in a run system and had the misfortune of breaking his left foot before the combine.

“It’s difficult because in the triple-option offense, he’s only going to run certain types of routes. You’re not going to see a lot of crossing routes, a lot of the traditional comebacks,” Clinkscales said. “But his stats speak for themselves. He was very productive. He’s a big kid with very good speed and great hands.”

Outstanding Volunteer

Before Clinkscales exited, he was asked what player he thought people would be saying was the best player in this draft a decade from now. The former Tennessee standout proudly smiled and tabbed all-world Vols S Eric Berry.

“He’s a great safety. He’s physical, he has cover skills,” he said. “He came into Tennessee as a corner and moved to safety after five games his freshman year and he’s been a fantastic player.”

Preseason Schedule Finalized

The Jets’ preseason schedule was released last week but some details still weren’t finalized. Now they are. Here is the summer schedule complete with dates, kickoff times and TV:

Date Opponent Kickoff TV
Mon., Aug. 16 vs. GIANTS 8 p.m. ESPN
Sat., Aug. 21 at Carolina 8 p.m. WCBS
Fri., Aug. 27 vs. WASHINGTON 7 p.m. WCBS
Thur., Sept. 2 at Philadelphia 7:30 p.m. WCBS


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Restricted free agent quarterback Kellen Clemens signed his qualifying offer from the Jets to remain with the team.

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39 Responses to “Clinkscales Once More Predraft on Rex, Etc.”

  1. By BobbyC on Apr 13, 2010 | Reply

    Randy, What do you think of the Jets trading up in the draft to grab Berry.

  2. By Tom W on Apr 13, 2010 | Reply

    I hope we get somebody on D for the 1st round. I really don’t believe Dez Bryant is a bright person and won’t fit in. The offense is stacked right now. The D was one of the best last year and hopefully they can repeat with this next year,

  3. By Ira on Apr 13, 2010 | Reply

    EA, Its really something every year their staff goes through 1400 or so players. Then they have to narrow it down to about 300 or so are draft worthy. Not an easy task. But they have had great success for a good span and i expect them to continue that trend. You can’t score on every pick and i would say the better staffs avg about 50% of their players drafted turn out to be productive players in the NFL.

  4. By Eric Allen on Apr 13, 2010 | Reply

    BobbyC, I think with the way Mike Tannenbaum has drafted in recent years, it’s certainly possible the Jets will trade up from their 29th spot in the first round. I can’t tell you if Mr. T would want to trade up high enough to select Eric Berry, who is expected to go in the top 10.

  5. By Ira on Apr 13, 2010 | Reply

    With Mr. T you just never know but I agree with EA about them finding a pass rusher as an OLB or DL on their first pick. I will still keep McCourty in that mix. Would love to see them move Lowery to safety. Anyway Odrick has Jets written all over him. If not Griffen, Hughes, Wooton, Price, and Sapp would all be excellent picks. Miles a safety would be a nice 3rd day pick. Sounds like taylor really wants to stay with the Fish. Whatever. GO JETS!!!!!

  6. By Ira on Apr 13, 2010 | Reply

    And i do believe our friend Mr. Belichick will draft Tebow with one of his three 2nd rd picks and try to turn him into a hybrid type of WR and QB who can run the Wildcat. And with all those out there that think the Pats are so perfect here ae some #’s. They have had 45 picks in the past 5 drafts. Only 7 have turned into starters. 06 and 07 was a disaster. Of those 19 picks 16 are either out of the NFL or on other teams. Doesn’t sound so Super to me. Jets win the AFC East this year. GO JETS!!!!!

  7. By Vincent on Apr 13, 2010 | Reply

    McCoy sounds like someone who could easily keep an OT and OG busy. Nice to see a player like him possibly wearing the Green and White…

  8. By Rafael on Apr 14, 2010 | Reply

    If all of the following 3 are still available at pick 29, assuming they Jets don’t make a trade up or down, do you guys think they would they draft Jason Pierre-Paul, Ryan Mathews or Dez Bryant?

  9. By Ira on Apr 14, 2010 | Reply

    McCoy and Berry are both going in the top 3-7 picks. I think Berry is going to the Browns. No way the Browns will pass on him. I think the league has not released the schedule [its always out by now] because of the Roethlisberger situation. No way are they putting Pitt on Prime Time @ Night with Batch or anybody else they would sign. If he gets suspended for 4 games or more wonder if Pitt would give the Jets a late pick for Kellen?

  10. By uncle joe on Apr 14, 2010 | Reply

    Ira,I’ve always said that NE don’t draft too well.He Brandon Marshall Welcome To The DR-ARC Islands.

  11. By uncle joe on Apr 14, 2010 | Reply

    Well Belicheck better move up and draft CB Haden because the AFC East is getting WR happy!

  12. By uncle joe on Apr 14, 2010 | Reply

    Talks of Tebow going in the first round,possibly to the Saints,plus Colt MCoy is getting mentioned could help us trade out and pick up some draft picks.If Graham is gone,it’s either McCourty or trade out.I love Leon,but I think if we can get something for him now instead of wondering if he can still play and then dealing with a contract,we should pull the trigger.There will be alot of contracts to pay next year without worrying about him.

  13. By BriGuyinFL on Apr 14, 2010 | Reply

    nice stats Ira. I agree on the DL/OLB, no brainer to us but Tanny has twisted the whole draft before and it has worked out. So maybe DL/OLB is a bit TOO obvious. We will find out soon enough my friend.

  14. By Ira on Apr 14, 2010 | Reply

    While Marshall might be a little better than Holmes the Jets got the better of the two deals for what they have to pay right now and what they had to give up. Somehow South Beach and marshall doesn’t sound like a good mix. Its only a matter of time.

  15. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Apr 14, 2010 | Reply

    One thing I love about the SH pickup is it frees us to get a DL in the 1st and an RB in the 2nd or vice-versa. As you can see with the Fish getting BM, nobody’s gonna win our division, much less the SB, with the low-scoring O we had last year. Don’t be surprised if in a yr or 2 we throw as much as almost anybody in the NFL, since that’s the way (IND and NO) teams are winning now. And I agree with the guy who posted not to pressure MS, Rex, or the Jets re the SB in 2010, that’ll still take time.

  16. By Paul Esden on Apr 14, 2010 | Reply

    I say lets trade up and get berry y knt it might cost a 1st and a 2nd but its worth it he’s a super star on a already talented D-fense and he can fit right in or we could trade up to jacksonville and get a jason pierre paul or perhaps sergio kindle or a rolando mclain it wouldnt cost us a 2nd round maybe a nxt year 2nd round or a 3rd next year or something

  17. By Frank on Apr 14, 2010 | Reply

    Well boys now you will see first hand what I was talking about with Marshall we get to play him twice a year now.

  18. By uncle joe on Apr 14, 2010 | Reply

    On that RB video,Best looks the best,but those concusions are NO GOOD.My boy Ben Tate is a Bull,but this Anthony Dixon guy looks like an Animal and I’ve read before that the Jets were high on him.Maybe we wake up and find out the Jets are starting the 3rd round again if he is there and take him.

  19. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Apr 14, 2010 | Reply

    By the way, while we’re on the subject of speed, Best makes Spiller and Gerhart look like Clydesdales on those clips.

  20. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Apr 14, 2010 | Reply

    There’s a great piece today on Yahoo! Sports about Ben R and SH that goes into the true meaning of SH’s stats, including his amazing skill at making catches to get 1st downs, topped last year only by Vincent Jackson — who, by the way, I would’ve taken over BM, too. Also talks about SH’s ability to stretch plays trying to get open which, combined with his speed, is part of what makes him so dangerous. I love J-Co in more of a slot role but him and Coles at WR with Favre was pretty slow goin’.

  21. By 37 year fan on Apr 14, 2010 | Reply

    Miami is desperate to keep pace with us . Woody , Mr. T we need the Gronk so we can Hammer them . This is of the utmost importance .

  22. By steven on Apr 14, 2010 | Reply

    So far our offseason has been great, but theres one thing weve overlooke don our defense. Safeties with the release of kerry rhodes and no moves made to pick up another safety. I just dont trust eric smith back there or even ihedigbo. We could have a great defense in every way but with no safety play well crumble. A perfect example is the giants in the past season.Clinkscales likes eric berry and so do i , lets make a move for him sacrifice a 1st and 2nd for this guy itll do wonders for us

  23. By Gary C on Apr 14, 2010 | Reply

    the jets will draft one of these guys with their first pick, Best, Patrick Robinson,Everson Griffin, or a surprise Vladimir Ducasse of UMass.Best will give them outside speed, Robinson gives them third shutdown corner, Griffin edge pass rusher and Ducasse backup to Woody and Faneca.And if you looking for a tight end why is no one mentioning Pitta from BYU in later round.

  24. By Ira on Apr 14, 2010 | Reply

    It is too obvious but both positions are their biggest need. Sorry i have a weakness and love taking the best CB’s. You can never have enough good CB’s and would love to plug McCourty into the nickel spot and let Lowery play some safety. I think if Odrick or Sapp are gone they will trade down a few spots and take the best available defensive player. Sure we will all stay up past midnight and then the Jets trade out of the 1st rd. I think Kindle is too small for a 3-4 OLB.

  25. By jgilly on Apr 14, 2010 | Reply

    we hav brodney pool from the browns as our saftey

  26. By ddh on Apr 14, 2010 | Reply

    While I can agree a vet QB would help anchor the QB position, I must admit I would love to see EA as the #2, and see what he is capable of doing with this recieving core, I feel he has starter potential and shouldnt be wasted at as a #3 qb, he has a good arm, and moves very well in the pocket, more so than KC.

  27. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Apr 14, 2010 | Reply

    TOTALLY agree about EA, ddh, and like your picks, Gary C. Leon would be expendable if we got Best which means we’d gain picks at most and save money at least. The guy made one of the all-time bonehead moves by turning down that $10 mil for 2 yrs, which was absurdly generous on our part, he’d never get that from us with the guys we have now. Ira, can’t see a CB 1st given our other needs like DL, LB, S, and RB, maybe 5th. Don’t forget we might have to take a K. Frank, MIA has to play us, too…

  28. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Apr 14, 2010 | Reply

    …and they (MIA) gotta do it with their lousy D. Which reminds me, to those Giants fans who’ve been dissing us for decades, are you guys gonna do anything about your 3rd-worst (pts allowed) D while we build The O from Hell? uncle joe, I don’t see Best’s concussions as any worse than MS’s knee or any of the injuries that all the top WRs have this year. Besides, the way the NFL is getting more and more physical, soon concussions are going to be like hamstrings — not that that’s a good thing.

  29. By 37 year fan on Apr 14, 2010 | Reply

    Brandon Marshall …. Just another dissappearance on Revis Island.

  30. By 37 year fan on Apr 14, 2010 | Reply

    It’s Go big or Go Home in the AFC East baby.

  31. By elmikimbin on Apr 14, 2010 | Reply

    I already bought Marshall a one way ticket to Revis Island…

  32. By Row on Apr 14, 2010 | Reply

    Nice to see KC signed. Either he’ll be dealt by the end of draft week, or disappear until Sanchez gets hurt. Bring on the stupid EA comments. Leon and our #1 for Suh? It could happen…

  33. By Rick Allen on Apr 15, 2010 | Reply

    Trade up to the 10 spot ( Jacksonville) and grab Brandon Marshall from Michigan Lets do this!!!

  34. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Apr 15, 2010 | Reply

    Row, KC getting dealt at all seems a bit optimistic, seeing how no one’s come knocking yet, but I’d do the trade for Suh that you suggest as long as we can get a good RB in the second round.

  35. By JetsAllDay247 on Apr 15, 2010 | Reply

    Hey Randy do you think that it is possible to get darren sharper because hes saying a lot of good things about new york as if he wants to play here and if not do you think that the jets would trade up to get eric berry and if so what do you think they would have to give?

  36. By Rafael on Apr 16, 2010 | Reply

    Hey Randy & EA. Can i write for you guys? Or even fact check, anything. Been out of school for over a year & can’t find a job at all. If anything opens up in your department, I would love to get a chance at a job. Thanks!

  37. By Eric Allen on Apr 16, 2010 | Reply

    Rafael, thanks for the offer but at the moment we have no openings. Best of luck to you in your job search.

  38. By john on Apr 17, 2010 | Reply

    hey randy and eric im really curious about jason taylor how close is he to signing with the jets were there any recent discussions because if not the jets can focus on that position in the draft

  39. By Eric Allen on Apr 18, 2010 | Reply

    john, I can’t tell you how close Jason Taylor is to signing with the Jets. All I know is what I read, which says JT will return from CR (Costa Rica) on Monday and could make a decision on the NYJ then.

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