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Not Something the Jets Needed to Start Camp

Posted by Bob Wischusen on August 3, 2010 – 9:04 am

So Darrelle Revis is a holdout. It’s not like this was unexpected, despite the rumblings recently that the door had been reopened to contract talks and there was no formal declaration from Revis that he would indeed skip the start of camp. And maybe this is only a “statement” by Revis, much like his minicamp “sick-out.” Maybe this only lasts for a few days.

Or maybe it gets uglier, and maybe it drags itself into a major camp distraction, which would obviously be a worst-case scenario.

Either way, this is not what the Jets needed as they open a camp with more hype and optimism surrounding their 2010 chances than any summer I can ever remember. Even the group that came off of the 1998 AFC Championship game didn’t have this kind of buzz.

Normally when you have a situation like this one, people will choose sides. And you’ll see/read/hear plenty of exactly that as the Revis holdout plays itself out. I used to be a talk show host, and in that profession you get paid to take sides. But no matter how many different angles one looks at this situation, I’m not sure there is anything but gray area. There doesn’t seem to be right and wrong. Both sides have legitimate concerns that have left this negotiation behind major roadblocks.

Look at it first from Revis’ point of view — and this is the far simpler side of the issue. Across the NFL, “Revis Island” is looked upon as the most difficult piece of real estate to get anywhere near. The Jets themselves, and specifically the head coach, have never been shy about lauding Revis as perhaps the best player in the NFL. Certainly they believe they have the best player at that position in the league.

Players usually get one or two chances in their careers to do a big contract, and the first time around sets the pace if you’re even lucky enough to do a huge deal a second time around. Security, respect, being paid what he feels he’s worth — these are all justifiable concerns for a player to have, especially a player as young and as good as Darrelle Revis.

However, there are two sides to every story, and the Jets have concerns that are just as legitimate. Revis can look at the short term, with respect to himself alone. The Jets have an entire organization to which they must pay attention. How will a Revis deal impact their cap situation when a cap of some sort inevitably returns? What will that financial structure be? How will the money they pay Revis now affect the jumping-off point for negotiations with other young, would-be star players and their deals that will also be coming up? (See Nick Mangold and David Harris for starters.)

Also, Nnamdi Asomugha made a killing, no doubt about it. He took his deal all the way to free agency. (Revis still has three years left on his contract.)

There are financial ramifications that are far-reaching beyond simply saying “Revis is the best. We should just pay him.” Mangold and Harris also both want new deals, but they’re not holding out. D’Brickashaw Ferguson got a big new contract, but also gave a little from his side, making the money he’ll earn attainable due to skill and taking out an insurance policy to guard against injury.

It’s a tough situation for both sides. In the end, you know how this resolves itself? The Players Association, and specifically the head of the NFLPA, stops giving interviews to every camera that passes him on the street and gets to the negotiating table instead.

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42 Responses to “Not Something the Jets Needed to Start Camp”

  1. By uncle joe on Aug 3, 2010 | Reply

    The Jets BIGGEST problem right now is that they can’t give Wilson time in Revis’ spot because they need him to learn the nickle,but if this thing goes too long they should seriously consider moving foward without Revis.

  2. By Kaya on Aug 3, 2010 | Reply

    You know this is true. Revis desevers to get paid but he also is being selffish. Mangold and Harris are both looking for new contract too, but yet there are in camp. And if story is true that the Jets offered over 100 million then, Revis and his camp is getting greedy here. How much of the 100 million does he want garanteed? Or better yet how much of a bonus is he looking for? You still have 3 yrs left, while Mangold and Harris are playing on their last yr contract and still are in camp.

  3. By Fish Hunters on Aug 3, 2010 | Reply

    It’s time to move on from Revis. His uncle whom he takes advice from is infamous for holding out an entire season. I’m sure he will too. If he’s not willing to have a sit down face to face then lets go out and see what kind of TOP DEFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE GAME VALUE we can get in a trade. ‘Cause it shows just where his head is at, in stupidville.

  4. By HuTcH on Aug 3, 2010 | Reply

    All of us Jets fans better pray they get Revis back in camp soon enough without too much turmoil, or you can kiss that sweet #1ranked blitzing defense goodbye. Oh and let LaV Coles stay on this year for old times sake for cheap like TO.

  5. By GIL on Aug 3, 2010 | Reply

    This is getting rediculous, THREE YEARS LEFT??? I have been a big supporter of lets pay these guys cuz they show true grit but this is getting out of hand, I rather pay Mangold and Harris first and worry about Revis later, honestly if Wilson pans out like he did with Boise State then we can have another legitimate lockdown corner, to be greedy is stupid especially since you have gotten paid handsomely over the first 3 years, Revis respect your team mates yes its a business but have class and report to camp, You owe the fans that pay to watch you more than what your giving now.

  6. By Lewis on Aug 3, 2010 | Reply

    I have lost all respect of Revis. I have been a JETS fan since super bowl III when everyone else in the room were pulling for the Colts. I have stuck like most fans and when this type of loyalty comes up then I will pull the plug on them. If Revis holds out much more and keeps this crap going I will have a hard time pulling for him even if he does show up with what he wants. Give him two weeks then move on. Can they use his money for the last years on his contract with someone else?

  7. By Mr.Green on Aug 3, 2010 | Reply

    Unfortunately this is now becoming common place in the NFL. $100 million turned down ? So they have to offer more and the fans will be the bearer of bad news in this matter. Ticket prices will rise and rise as contracts meet ridiculous heights. Kind of reminds me of Latrelle Sprewell with the Knicks. WHERE IS HE NOW ? BROKE

  8. By TEJ on Aug 3, 2010 | Reply

    Uncle Joe…Are you serious!!!It’s only 2 days into camp and you are talking about moving forward w/o Revis. This is separates locker rooms and team chemistry. Remember LEON WASHINGTON…Where is he now?????

  9. By pep pep on Aug 3, 2010 | Reply

    I love Revis and i believe he is an amazing corner. But he has not PROVEN that he is the best corner in the league because he has not played enough. Now, having said that, i still believe the Jets HAVE to pay him if they truly are committed to winning a Superbowl (they need him). BUT he needs to understand that if he wants to stay on a team that’s loading up for a MONSTER year he CANNOT be a distraction…I think he knows that he will get the most money if he becomes a free agent, and if that’s what he wants he needs to play out his contract…if he wants a new contract NOW, he needs to bend a little…YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS…can you?

  10. By Glenn H. on Aug 3, 2010 | Reply

    I obviously have no idea where they are in the negotiations, but I personally would have more respect for Revis if he was acting more like Harris and Mangold and showing up to camp during the talks. Obviously he’s just listening to his agent, so it’s hard to fault him too much, but still I’d like to see him acting like he expects a fair deal to be made, instead of holding the team hostage.

    My $.02

  11. By Fish Hunters on Aug 3, 2010 | Reply

    @pep, true we have acquired a lot of talent “this year” but it’s not about JUST this year. It’s about building sustained success. We want the SB to be attainable EVERY year. So we can’t just pay him or anyone else anything they want just to get on the field. There WILL be a cap again. This is not baseball where small market teams have to pray every year that they get lucky. The cap makes it an even playing field for every team. We have to have talent but we also have to have a healthy cap #.

  12. By Jim D on Aug 3, 2010 | Reply

    I agree with Glenn H. , Revis is still under contract. He needs to show his team and management that his heart is still with the TEAM (participating in minicamp) , and I firmly believe that his contract will be renegotiated and will reflect what a valuable player he really is.

  13. By Fish Hunters on Aug 3, 2010 | Reply

    We should have seen this coming. He held out as a rookie and his uncle held out a full season. If a deal is eventually worked out it needs to be his last.

  14. By Joshua R on Aug 3, 2010 | Reply

    Just make him a Jet for Life! give him a huge contract he was a huge part of our defense last year and if we gonna make it to the ship this year we need him playing at 100%

  15. By fred rosenberg on Aug 3, 2010 | Reply

    No individual, talent notwithstanding, is bigger than the company for whom he/she works – the same is true of an NFL team, which is, in fact the company- or employer. No one wants Revis as a Jet more than I do … he’s a viktal cog in the team’s wheel. But enough is enough. Time to get on with program and placde the goals of the team first. Trade him, let the Lions scoff up his contract, so we can reap the benefitts of future draft choices. That’s the future; not a spoiled brat who listens to the wrong people, lives on ego island, and is totally embroied in counting his milliions at the expense of his teram mates, his fans and, yes, the company.

  16. By Fish Hunters on Aug 3, 2010 | Reply

    Hey Josh, what if he was not holding out and got hurt in the 2nd game of the season? Does that mean we don’t get to the Superbowl? Yeah he’s good but can you name the CB’s on the Saiints? Or even the Colts? Are any of them the best defensive player on the planet? Yes, his skill and presence makes it easier but not impossible; which is exactly why you can’t put all the golden eggs into one players basket. Football is a true TEAM game and players get hurt like Kris Jenkins and Leon Washington did last year. Outstanding players in their own right, but we still made it to the AFC title game. It takes depth, not a fat contract in one guys hands.

  17. By scjoe on Aug 3, 2010 | Reply

    This should not be a distraction to ANYONE! My advice to Mr. Johnson…Offer him NOTHING! Let him fulfill his remaining two years, or go and find employment outside of pro football. Then, after his remaining two years, you franchise him for the next two. If that don’t send a message to all the ME first athletes around the league, nothing will.

  18. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Aug 3, 2010 | Reply

    That might just work, scjoe. And it would sure beat messing up the rest of the team, and the league, just over one guy’s ego and greed.

  19. By Alex G on Aug 3, 2010 | Reply

    I would’nt want him now if I were the Jets. This guy is not about the team all he wants is the payday,well I say he can get his payday in 4 years after he sits on the bench for the duration of his contract, or let a team give me the billion he wants and then they can take the BUM, D.R is a BUM I prey the JETS stick to the guns and give him nothing. shut down corner lol 1 good year and he wants the world, he should not be rewarded for this GREED sit him all season Jets will be just fine without him last I recall it takes a team not 1 greedy guy, and we are deep with corners and Nickels,safteys. depeciate his stock by keeping him on his own bench Island next to the water cooler… JETS BABY OUR YR.

  20. By jetsoK on Aug 3, 2010 | Reply

    This could turn into the off-the-field equivalent of Gastineau ruffing the passer in the Cleveland playoff game. Once again the Jets are poised for great things, only to possibly self destruct. Due to the uncertainty of what lies beyond this un-capped year, it seems like the only realistic decision would be a one year band-aid solution. Is it unrealistic to think that if the Jets go all the way to the Super Bowl, they would make way more the 14,000,000 in addional revenue? Well if you add 14,000,000+ to Revis’s 1,000,000 2010 salary, he’d be making more than Asomugha, which would satisfy Revis. With Revis on the field, the chances of going to the Super Bowl dramatically increase. Pay him the one year band-aid and promise to re-visit the long term contract after the new CBA is in place. Its been a long wait since 1969, I just don’t want the Jets to screw this one up, (AGAIN).
    Lets win or lose it on the field, with our best personnel.

  21. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Aug 3, 2010 | Reply

    jetosK, that’s the most level-headed argument I’ve heard for putting up with DR’s extortion, but I’m still down with Alex G. And one reason is I’m not buying into this “we gotta win it all this year” stuff. Call me crazy but I’m the guy who said 6-10 last year with MS woulda been better than 12-4 with Favre. I’m happy that we’re competitive and have a great nucleus of mostly young players, and I’m not looking to screw that up over one guy. Which is to say I wanna see guys like Holmes and Cromartie stay Jets as we develop into a consistent Super Bowl contender, not a one-year wonder. And along those lines I gotta go and see what my main man J-Co has to say, who’s a guy who I’d really like to see win an SB over the next few years.

  22. By Freddie on Aug 3, 2010 | Reply

    Thankfully I see that I am not the only one that thinks that Revis is SELFISH. I used to admire him but he can stay with his holdout uncle Sean Gilbert. One of the contributors made the best suggestion – to let him play out his three remaining years and then franchise him for a couple more then trade him in the second franchised season. This way they get a couple of decent draft picks and the JETS make a bold statement. In the meantime take care of Mangold and Harris – REAL JETS. Sports Teams win championships – not greedy individuals. Example = A-Rod as a Texas Ranger. His salary basically crippled that team and Nnamdi Asomugha of the Raiders — Mr Johnson, Please do not become another Al Davis.

  23. By Dan on Aug 3, 2010 | Reply

    REVIS REVIS REVIS…how much more money could you possibly want. Besides that lunatic giving away 15 million per season for 3 years the next highest paid cornerback is 10 million. The JETS offered you more than that and for a longer contract. It is time for Revis to stop living on his own little island and join the rest of his teamates in camp. Especially the kind of players like Mangold and Harris. Who by the way are playing out there LAST YEAR of their contracts without holding out and hurting the team and the city. I am using you as an example of how not to be a man when my kids listen to the news or read the newspaper. I try and teach them, “go to school, do your job to the best of your ability and don’t whine and cry about how many more millions you are not getting paid”. You should be ashamed of how you are acting. Everyone would haver respected you more have you showed up and worked like EVERYONE ELSE on the team!

  24. By Mike Jet Vet on Aug 3, 2010 | Reply

    HAllelujah finally more and more people coming to their senses about Revis let him sit ..Let me say if management really offered him 100million and he turned it down …Woody you need your head examined to offer this guy one penny more ,its bad enough hes disregarding his teammates as non existent but that is the ultimate disrespect to you as an owner .Who does he think he is whats really burning my butt and eating my gut about Revis and can’t let it go .I’ve waited so many years for the Jets to contend for the SB ..(Yet Revis will for the sake of bragging rights ruin it for all of us ) let me say again no 26 year old kid should be paid what hes asking breaking his contract disregarding Mangold and Harris as human beings sitting like a spoiled brat just to satisfy his ego .. He got his deal 2 years ago .. if he gets his blackmail nothing left for him to shoot for he’ll lose all desire and will to be the best or worst.. Woody be done with him let him sit and make up his mind to be with us or against us .. TRADE HIM TRADE HIM

  25. By coat on Aug 3, 2010 | Reply

    thank god I didn’t buy a revis jersey cause he has to go

  26. By Bleeds green and white on Aug 3, 2010 | Reply

    Is Revis being selfish? Yeah. Is he the best corner in the league? Yeah. Does he deserve to be the highest-paid corner in the league? Maybe. He’s got all of one year’s stats behind him and still has to prove his value has longevity.

    Now the other side. Are the Jets being selfish? You bet. Are they serious about making a Super Bowl run? Apparently not. If they were, they would just shut up and pay the man. That’s what it’s going to take. Yes, you can have a “D that gets the job done” without Revis. But this team is NOT going to the Super Bowl without talent of that caliber. They’ve already lost Faneca, Thomas Jones, and a few others. If they start losing guys like Revis and Mangold, we might as well just chalk it up to the “same old Jets”. Tannenbaum says we need to trust the Jets decisions. That sounds like the prelude to a letdown. And why exactly should we trust them? Because of all the Super Bowls we’ve been to recently? Yeah, I don’t think so. They just don’t like the pressure from the fans to sign the guy.

  27. By Mike Jet Vet on Aug 3, 2010 | Reply

    Hey green and white .. pay Revis we go back 3 steps and forget a SB you believe paying him is the ticket try this out …his greed will cost us much more he can’t play defence alone.. Let me enlighten you if I might like I said a few times in the most important game in 40 years for us Jet fans last year Payton Manning carved him up like a thanksgiving turkey the title wave hit Revis Island what happened to the best CB in the league ?.. No player is more important then team certainly not worth dismantling our team and paying him 100s of millions .. Jets can win without one greedy player not 2-3or 4 quality guys giving their heart and soul to win now .. Revis goal is to fill his pockets put a few more cars in the mansion little extra bling bling that’s it .. So please stop insulting our intelligence

  28. By Scott W. on Aug 4, 2010 | Reply

    This whole situation just makes me sooo mad. Woody Johnson’s always been a great owner until now.

    How much money does Revis make the Jets? In terms of jersey sales, endorsements, media time, etc. Millions. Now take into account that Woody Johnson is a BILLIONARE and the owner of Johnson & Johnson. He just spent about 650 million to build a new stadium. The Jets are making more money than ever. Almost double as much money as they were making two years ago, it’s crazy. When you compare 10 mil to those numbers it seems like nothing. Especially sice the Jets will easily get 10 mil back in ticket and jersey sales if they make it to the playoffs and/or Super Bowl.

    Now you can’t spend 10 million dollars in a non-caped year just to give the best player in the NFL a contract?!?! All he needs to do is give him a 10 mil bonus for this year only. Revis’ contract is no money the 4th year, but 20 mil guaranteed in the 5th and 6th years. So all we need is a little band-aid this year to get to next year and we’re fine.

    JOE HADEN is makine 28 mil guaranteed and he’s the Browns 3rd string corner behing Brown and Wright. He’s nowhere NEAR Revis. Just pay the man his money, 5 years from now the money that we’re talking about giving Revis will be nothing compared to guys like Dominic Rodgers-Cromartie, Leon Hall, Jonathan Joseph, and Brandon Flowers new contracts in the upcoming years.

    It just makes me sick that he can’t just open the checkbook this one time in an uncapped year, for the fans sakes.

  29. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Aug 4, 2010 | Reply

    Bleeds green and white, you’re offering nothing but false logic. We SAY we have a shot at the SB based on last year, we had TJ, Faneca, and of course Revis last year, ergo, without them we have no shot at the SB this year. Gimme a break! If SG unseating TJ last year didn’t show you that anything can happen, I guess nothing will. But any number of things could happen without DR, from the defense disappointing (I can’t see it collapsing) to it doing even better as other DBs step up. Of course, having witnessed the seemingly endless attempts to replace Joe in the ’70s and ’80s and the attendant false logic and illusions of that time, I sorta feel like I’ve seen all this before…

  30. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Aug 4, 2010 | Reply

    Hey MJV, while I share your frustration, I think you can relax on one point. And that’s that no one, and surely not the front office, is saying all they really feel about DR at this point. Even Rex seems to be learning how to measure his words better, though he’s careful to maintain his “I’m just being honest” public persona, just like a cagey politician (which is what a head coach has to be in part). I’m glad to see the Daily News today call DR’s holdout the most serious in Jets history and also glad, in a bittersweet way, to see my least favorite loudmouth on the team, Scott, talking about how he’s behind DR “1000%.” Because when chatter of this kind gets too loud, Rex and the front office will say okay, enough, we gotta get this resolved, at least for this season, one way or another. Actually, their big mistake was rushing to promise DR a new contract in the first place.

  31. By coat on Aug 4, 2010 | Reply

    get rid of him!!!!

  32. By KevinFan4Life on Aug 4, 2010 | Reply

    PLEASE….Sign the players that care about the team…that want to win….

    SIGN HARRIS AND MANGOLD…NOW…

    They are your future at key positions, these are the people/players you should be concerned about…DO IT NOW….

  33. By Fish Hunters on Aug 4, 2010 | Reply

    Fortunately for us the front office is being less emotional about it then we fans are.

  34. By russ on Aug 4, 2010 | Reply

    My concern is another “owner” playing underhanded gmes to get Revis off the Jets

  35. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Aug 4, 2010 | Reply

    Your naivete makes me sooo mad, Scott W. Nothing you say makes much sense or shows any real grasp of the situation. Revis already got his rookie contract money and it’s not about whether the team has the spare ten million, it’s about the effect this whole thing has on a team that, according to Revis himself only a few months ago, wants to be a Super Bowl contender every year, not just this year. Chill out and try seeing the big picture. And while you’re at it, every time you get all sweet on Revis, think about our other DBs playing out of position right at this minute because of him. Or go talk to Dennis Thurman, who said yesterday that if DR misses 2 or 3 weeks he won’t catch up till midseason.

  36. By KevinFan4Life on Aug 4, 2010 | Reply

    Just read an interesting article. Here is a guy…best at his position ….last year of his contract…should be highest paid player in FOOTBALL…but he is waiting because he knows what problems may occur because of this new contract with owners and players…so he will wait…go to camp…work out with his fellow TEAMMATES…try for another run to the Super Bowl.

    Now this is a player that respects his organization, loves the game and respects his teammates….Peyton Manning.

    REVIS…wake up…u still have 3 years…listen more to your Uncle (who sat out a year himself in contract squabble)…sit out the year…be a TEAM MATE for once…stop being selfish…

  37. By Paul M on Aug 4, 2010 | Reply

    FELLAS…..first of all…the Jets do need Revis…second of all…if the Jets offered him 100 million…with 30 million guaranteed….they only offered him 30 million…he wants guaranteed money…if he gets bad injury first year and Jets cut him…he loses the other 70 million….From what I hear the Jets offered him 3 million guaranteed this year…that is embarrassing….give the guy 10-12 mil this year…then work out new contract after new CBA is signed…is it that hard???? Geez…..

  38. By Fish Hunters on Aug 5, 2010 | Reply

    @Paul, yep it is that hard. he won’t accept a one year bump in pay it was already offered and turned down. From what’s been printed they haven’t even gotten to the guaranteed numbers yet ’cause they’re still far apart on total compensation. It appears he is being unreasonable. Looks like his ego won’t accept anything other than to be paid a nicle more than Nnamdi. If that’s the case then I see Revis and the Jets parting ways. I don’t have a problem with that, cause we want sustained excellence and you can’t have that if one guy is making all the dough.

  39. By Ray on Aug 5, 2010 | Reply

    Paul M if the Jets offer Revis 10 mil this year does it really need to be “guaranteed”? Is there a snowballs chance in hell that we would cut him? If he got injured we wouldn’t be allowed to cut him this year, so he would still get the money. Scott W how do you think Woody got to be a billionaire? Not by making bad business decisions based on a biased public’s wishes. If he just pays Revis what he wants, then he’ll have to just pay Mangold what he wants and Harris what he wants, and then Sanchez will be coming due again so we pay him what he wants, and Greene what he wants not to mention any good players we draft or acquire in the meantime, when they get good we’ll have to renegotiate and pay them what they want. Salary cap? Who cares, we’ll just get rid of half the guys to be under the cap, and we can stink for the next twenty years. We really better win it all this year…..

  40. By TONY GARCIA on Aug 7, 2010 | Reply

    IM EXCITED ABOUT UPCOMING SEASON,HOPEFULLY INJURIES WILL BE AT A MIN.LETS GET REVIS SIGNED AND COMPLETE OUR MISSION.

  41. By Rich Phelps on Aug 16, 2010 | Reply

    Typical jets. We finally have a coach who doesn’t treat everything like the launch codes for our nuclear rockets and we have a player still under contract who got most of the money up front holding out. Revis is good but he’s not the team. No I in team remember. What happend to Washington last year was a shame but once again greed showed it’s ugly face. He could have signed the 5million dollar contract and had security but…. Now Revis. It’s both sides fault what about honoring your contract, no talk of extentions till the last year. Once again the fans get the short end, seat licenses, designated parking lots increased ticket prices and less coverage in the stadium for inclement weather. Where’s the roof, could have had a retractable and had events during the winter and protected the long suffering fans from rain and snow. What the heck we only get to pay, hopefully they won’t fall on their faces like so many highly touted jet teams have done in the past.

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