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Rex on Favre Ahead, Bills Win in the Books

Posted by Randy Lange on October 4, 2010 – 2:37 pm

It’s the day after Buffalo, but it’s also the first day of Brett Favre Week at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center. So reporters didn’t wait until Wednesday or Thursday to start asking head coach Rex Ryan about the matchup a week from tonight between the Jets’ refortified defense and Favre’s Vikings.

And Ryan didn’t wait to tell reporters of the respect he still has for old No. 4.

Rex was asked if he thought it’s true that he had no interest in keeping Favre in Jets green once he arrived on the scene in January 2009.

“No I don’t,” Ryan said poignantly. “When he announced his retirement, that would be a true statement. But if we never drafted Mark Sanchez, there would’ve been some major recruiting done. Absolutely, absolutely. If we didn’t get Mark Sanchez in the draft, we would’ve recruited him. That’s how I was feeling.”

Now just so there’s no confusion, Ryan was not saying anything but good things about the QB the Jets wound up with when they traded up with Cleveland for the fifth overall pick in that draft. He said initially he and the Jets had interest in Josh Freeman of Kansas State, who ultimately was picked by Tampa Bay. But once the predraft process began, he had no doubt which way he wanted to go.

“I was hoping we’d be able to draft Sanchez,” he said, “and we did.”

But Ryan is not about to lose his decades of respect for Favre, who had a phenomenal season last year in his first with Minnesota up until his last throw but this year has struggled out of the gate, as has the Vikings offense.

“I thought he was one of the best in the history of the game — I still do,” Rex said. “He makes all the throws — at any arm angle. That guy’s amazing. And he takes shots and he keeps getting up. He’s an ultimate competitor. I think I was part of one of his best games he ever had and probably one of his worst. He had a bad Monday night or Sunday night game against Baltimore, then we went to Green Bay and he might’ve thrown two incompletions out of 35 throws.”

Despite his thoughts of “recruiting” Favre, Ryan said he never talked with the legendary QB, “just for a few minutes” the night of his retirement announcement. So call it all a wish that never came true. But Ryan thinks if it had ever entered the recruiting phase, Favre wouldn’t have left for Minnesota.

“He would’ve seen how sincere I was, the kind of passion I have. I’m not going to say it’s equal to his but maybe it is. We both want to win, I know that,” Ryan said. “The guy’s a once-in-a-lifetime quarterback.”

And in seven days, Ryan’s and Mike Pettine’s defense, fresh off its strong effort at Buffalo, will try to add to Favre’s and the Vikings’ issues.

McKnight Unveiled

Ryan also was high on the late supporting role that Joe McKnight provided at Buffalo. McKnight, the fourth-round rookie out of Southern Cal, made his pro debut with some fourth-quarter work that included four carries for 12 yards. That sounds tame but his first two carries went for 6 and 5 yards to notch his first pro first down shortly before the two-minute warning.

And was that No. 25 flashing through the air to almost reject a Brian Moorman punt? Yes, it was.

“He was flying down the field, first guy down on kickoffs, almost blocked a punt. That’s what we’ve been seeing, that kind of improvement on the practice field,” Ryan said, touting McKnight’s athleticism and his enthusiasm.

Of the latter, Ryan said that had to come from within after McKnight’s sometimes struggle in the preseason.

“He’s the guy who had to make himself a better player,” the coach said. “His enthusiasm and everything else when he hits the practice field has been different. I don’t know why that is. I don’t want to say it’s pressure. He decided he knew the way to get myself back on this team and be active, and that’s to do it himself.”

And for the athleticism part, which we knew about out of USC and saw flashes of in the summer, Rex said someday that could enable him to line up on defense as well as offense.

“I think he can play corner. I don’t think there’s any doubt. Dennis Thurman, I think, would love to have that opportunity to coach him,” Ryan said. “I was told when we took him out of SC that he was the best receiver and the best corner on their campus the day he showed up.”

Many would be more than happy to see McKnight producing with some runs, receptions and returns before he jumps any opposing routes. But all contributions are welcome.

Rex Cetera

Ryan said Shaun Ellis, who tweaked his left knee on his third-quarter sack of Ryan Fitzpatrick and didn’t return to the game, will undergo an MRI today. “We don’t anticipate any ligament damage or anything like that,” the coach said. “Hopefully he’ll be fine.” Also, CB Darrelle Revis and LB Calvin Pace worked out lightly today at the training center and “hopefully we’ll get to see them play Monday night.”

Ryan confirmed the announcement earlier that NT Howard Green has been re-signed, WR Santonio Holmes’ activation is imminent and both David Clowney and Patrick Turner have been waived from the active roster.

Stinginess to an Extreme

Sanchez said the formula is simple.

“We don’t want to get ahead of ourselves. We’re doing all right. We’re doing well,” the Jets quarterback said after Sunday’s 38-14 triumph at Buffalo. “As long as we take care of the football, we give ourselves a chance.”

If the Jets can take care of the ball as well as they have the first four games, they’ll be golden. Their plus-8 turnover margin now leads the NFL, just ahead of Pittsburgh’s plus-7, with neither of tonight’s combatants, the Dolphins (plus-1) or the Patriots (zero), a threat to take over the lead for Week 4.

And their one giveaway in the first four games? Incredible. Not only does that lead the league as well but it is also the best total for the first four games of any season in franchise history and is one of the best for any four-game stretch. Only the zero turnovers from Games 2-5 of the 2001 season are a better quarter-season of stinginess.

Rush to Judgment

Ground & Pound returned at Buffalo on Sunday, and here’s one measure of how forcefully: The Jets’ 273 rushing yards were the fifth-most in a road game in franchise history.

Of the top five games on this list, three came in the early Seventies and two have come on the watch of Rex Ryan and Brian Schottenheimer. Here’s the list:

1972 — Jets 41, NEW ENGLAND 13, 333 yards

2009 — Jets 37, OAKLAND 0, 316 yards

1975 — Jets 30, KANSAS CITY 24, 291 yards

1973 — PHILADELPHIA 24, Jets 23, 276 yards

2010 — Jets 38, BUFFALO 14, 273 yards

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36 Responses to “Rex on Favre Ahead, Bills Win in the Books”

  1. By wayne on Oct 4, 2010 | Reply

    Here’s hoping his 40 yr old body hasnt healed up enough yet….If he’s healed and on his game I give the edge at the QB position to the old man…..Sanchez has been winning the QB battles quite a bit, but even with Favre looking real old this season, he’s still the X factor…….Who are the Jets going to see Monday nite?…..Mr. Sanchez can expect to get hit come sunday……Procted The Ball., and Jets will have every chance to win. We know Brett will give up one or two balls. That could be the difference.

  2. By IRA on Oct 4, 2010 | Reply

    BT is playing so well. Maybe the best he has ever played in his career. Turnovers tell the story as Randy wrote. The fact that Sanchez is pefect so far is incredible. Sooner or later he is going to have some bad throws but right now all that offseason classroom work he did is paying off.
    All the Favre hype is going to be all week. It will be interesting to see how Rex approaches this game. Does he go after him and force him to make bad throws or sit back in coverage?

  3. By Doug on Oct 4, 2010 | Reply

    this team is gonna be scary! We are pickin up momentum….watch out

  4. By IRA on Oct 4, 2010 | Reply

    With all due respect to favre his #’s this year might be showing his age. 2 TD’s-6 INT’s- 1 FL and a QB rating of 60.4. With all that said he has saved some of his best for MNF Games. Stop Peterson and Shiancoe and the Vikings will struggle to score. Would love to see favre throw up some ducks and the Jets next week are a + 12 in the turnover ratio after the win.
    GO JETS!!!!

  5. By Pranit on Oct 4, 2010 | Reply

    Need a couple of hits on Favre to rattle him..and then sit back and wait for him to throw those (jicy) picks…It’ll help a lot if Revis is back…Need to completely eliminate their running game to have Favre throw those picks…

    btw, great win yesterday ….!!

    go Jets !!

  6. By Hans on Oct 4, 2010 | Reply

    I’m glad Rex is handling this with class. In all honesty, Brett Favre IS one of the best QBs to ever play the game. He has the dedication to the sport that some players in the league could honestly benefit from (I’m looking at you JaMarcus Russell). In no way do I expect Monday Night to be easy. I expect it to be tight, though not as tight as B-more.

  7. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 4, 2010 | Reply

    Favre needed training camp this summer a lot more than Revis did, especially coming back to a team with injuries at WR and new guys at that position. I don’t make predictions on scores, Peterson can win a game all by himself, and that Vikes D is still tough. But I have a feeling that it could be a lot uglier for Favre this Monday night than it’s been in the past. He hasn’t seen a D like ours in awhile to boot.

  8. By gerry on Oct 4, 2010 | Reply

    im a jets fan for 35 years go jets watch out this monday favre always shine on monday night

  9. By Performing on Oct 4, 2010 | Reply

    Matt Slauson has done a very good job. Two borderline penalties and one embarrassing sack when the Raven’s Ngata went right around him. Besides these three plays, he has been solid.

    When you tender an offer to a Brad Smith, at what position does the team designate?

    James Ihedigbo is good for one tackle for negative yardage each game. I would start him over Brodney Pool. Besides two great plays vs. Miami, Pool has done nothing.

    When did Drew Coleman wake up as Mike Haynes?

    After starting slow, David Harris is making more and more impact plays every game.

    Having two fullbacks and four tight ends on the roster, makes me think other positions might be lacking depth. Especially the offensive line.

    Marquice Cole is becoming a force on Special Teams.

    Ok Westy! I’m a believer. Special Teams have been great.

    Brad Smith is about ready to take a kickoff for a TD. His vision seeing the lanes is incredible. Plus people don’t realize how big this guy really is. And he is the best at running the Wildcat in the league.
    Like the Bills did, teams will attack Smith on the option forcing him to toss the football. Teams see how dangerous he is with the ball.

    Keller’s TD leap almost reminded me of Keyshawn Johnson’s leap. But Keyshawn did it with one hand.

    Steve Weatherford is only 12th in the league in punting. But a more telling stat is that he is one of the best in the league with punts inside the opponents twenty yard line. Eight of his twenty punts landed inside the twenty.

    “The Pope Owns 51% Of General Motors”
    -George Harrison

  10. By Arte Old School Section 327 on Oct 4, 2010 | Reply

    “As long as we take care of the football, we give ourselves a chance.” With this “one game at a time” approach, we go down (or is it up?) in history as one of the greatest teams of all time.. Did I think we’d go undefeated?? Yeah!! How do we lose a game by one point with 14 penalties for over 100 yards, 1-11 on third down, and an honest fumble running into our own player?? It’s not easy LOL.. I just realized that the home opener, of which I so had to fly in to be a part of history in person, was the exorcism of the “Jets of season’s past”.. Yes “the same old Jets” are officially a thing of the past… Welcome to the Rex Ryan era JetNation.. Unbelievable.. I still have to slap myself in the face to wake up to the reality that we are finally #1.. Thank God I was there to see Week Two where they destroyed (shut down) Brady and his NE Patriots in the second half.. See their road stats in the 4th quarter.. Oh boy are they toast.. Belichick realizes it, too.. His worst nightmare has come true.. Rex brought in a defense that he would be proud of, but now must fear.. playing two games a year.. So excited for MNF redemption this week.. See you in Dallas :-)

  11. By Frank on Oct 4, 2010 | Reply

    At this point Ira as displayed in the first game of the year. The Jets will only lose if they don’t show up and the coaching staff doesn’t screw up the game plan(Ravens). There is clearly enough talent and LT is a man on a mission and I believe he will be the man to lead the way. They will win it all if they stay focused and avoid any major injuries.
    As for the Vikings they are a mess have a lot of injuries and are not the team they once were. MNF and after the embarrassment of the Ravens game this team will be inspired to play a great game and dismantle the Vikings.

  12. By Keno on Oct 4, 2010 | Reply

    I have respect for farve too but Sanchez is a better QB. The J! E! T! S! JETS! JETS! JETS! are in the position to go off on a huge roll and I doubt farve and the vikings can stop it!

  13. By Christopher on Oct 4, 2010 | Reply

    Keno, let’s not go that far, I don’t think Sanchez is on the same level as Favre. Not yet anyway. Granted Favre is hurt, and older, but you must respect what Favre can do and with the game on the line in the 4th quarter who do you want as your QB Sanchez or Favre?

    I will say this, Sanchez is playing much, much better than Favre at this point and deserves more credit than he is getting (LT is taking some of the spotlight, but LT is a major reason Sanchez is playing better). Right now, you have to consider both Sanchez and LT as league MVP canidates, but in the end if Sanchez keeps playing the way he is, Sanchez will be the a more legit contender.

    Who woulda though 0 INTs and 0 fumbles through 4 weeks for Sanchez, especially after his first pass was almost intercepted, and if not for replay woulda have been a pick. Great job!!! Go Jets!!!

  14. By Kenny P on Oct 4, 2010 | Reply

    The Giants had 10 sacks yesterday…get 4 on Farve and a few dozen nice hard clean shots and we win the game….He’ll have to lay in bed for a week! Jets win 31- 10.

  15. By jet80 on Oct 4, 2010 | Reply

    What id like to say is where has Bart Scott been since we acquired him from the ravens?high profile name and nothing else.has anyone else seen this but me?Harris has done all the work and he just talks. also Brad Smith needs to be used more and i dont understand why he can do it all, have him pass for once.line up more often with both him and MS in the backfield.are they purposely not letting him play more so his asking price isnt soo high nxt year?Idk congrats to LT for all his doin lately and sticking it to everyone who said he was done including me.also congrats to Woodhead for showing he has something do prove on the NFL level,wish we couldve made room for him but glad hes doin good.

  16. By scjoe on Oct 5, 2010 | Reply

    Favre and the Vikings will have had thirteen days to prepare for the Jets, they will be well rested and probably in good shape injury wise. That in itself should not be enough to get a win next Monday, providing the Jets play anywhere near the brand of football they have been playing. In a recent post I spoke about some things that were obvious to me. One was about what a weapon a good kick returner can be, well, we witnessed that tonight in the NE/Miami game, I also spoke about what a weapon a great kicker/punter can be, we witnessed that as well in that game with Gostowski consistently kicking deep in to the EZ therefore eliminating any possibility of a long return. Those are two areas where the Jets are lacking, but I don’t see any help on the current roster. It was good to see NE get this win tonight (If you had to pick one) because I believe the Jets match up better against NE then they do against Miami. Miami now has 2 division losses at home!!

  17. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 5, 2010 | Reply

    Very cool, the Fish fall to 2-2 and 0-2 in the division, but the Pats O still looks suspect. Yeah, all you Woodhead fans will be thrilled with his 8 for 36, I know, but I’ll stick with LT and SG with Conner and McKnight groomed in back of them. Conner and McKnight are a heckuva a lot bigger than Woodhead, that’s for sure. This is my last post till next Monday or so, guys, DSL goes off while I move a few blocks away from my favorite sports bar and a few blocks closer to my favorite Mexican cantina. So I’ll check in with you after we inch Mr. Favre closer to his first real retirement.

  18. By IRA on Oct 5, 2010 | Reply

    Frank, Agree with all you said. But i think the loss to the ravens was a good wake up call especially after having HBO at camp all summer. That loss made them focus more and be a little more humble. Now they are on a roll.
    Congrats to Woodhead. He had another fine game last night and will be more involved as the season goes on for the Pats. He is a great kid and deserves the success even if its for the Pats. Adding Clowney and letting him go looks bad right now but i think Clowney served a purpose these past few games.
    Performing,
    Pool has done nothing? How about that INT and the big pass break up so Coleman could get the INT vs the Fish to seal the game. Digs is very good in the role they have him. He is not that great in pass coverage just yet. But you have to love his intense play. Other players feed of of him for sure. Slauson is having a better season than Faneca is right now. And Drew has always had the talent he was just in the wrong system.

  19. By IRA on Oct 5, 2010 | Reply

    Randy, After watching the Pats/Fish game i was wondering has another team ever returned a KO for a TD, blocked a punt for a TD and had an INT for a TD in one half of a game ever?

  20. By Randy Lange on Oct 5, 2010 | Reply

    Ira, the best I can tell you is that the Jets once had three return TDs in a span of 11:12 — 1997 vs. Tampa Bay, two Otis Smith interception-return TDs and Leon Johnson’s kickoff-return TD — and that against the Jets last year, Miami had two Ted Ginn KR TDs sandwiched around a Jason Taylor fumble-return score, all in a 7:01 span of the third quarter.

  21. By Walt on Oct 5, 2010 | Reply

    For all the many danny woodhead fans out there danny gained 36 yards on eight carries for the patriots in their game against the dolphins monday night. He also had an 11 yard reception for a touchdown.The week before he also had a touchdown for the patriots on a running play.I will never understand why the jets released danny.He had all the intangables excellent speed quickness agility and strength.Thank god at least the patriots notice talent when they see it.Best of luck danny I will continue to watch your career closely with interest.

  22. By GaryC on Oct 5, 2010 | Reply

    Sanchez is not getting the pressure up the middle like last year with Faneca at guard,that is why Slauson has to be commended.being a shorter in stature quarterback he needs to get good guard and center play so he can see down the field.

  23. By coat on Oct 5, 2010 | Reply

    Ira I have never seen it happen and I was looking for it on the internet and couldn’t find it so I don’t think anyone ever has that was pretty amazing to see— even without all that the pats still win so it was gravy in my opinion—all the brad smith supporters myself included (I love the way he plays) we have a great base offense and I think the jets are using him in a perfect way he is a great wrinkle compliment to the offense and is electric with the football but if you over use him it might not appear that way think of him as a tacticle nuke that when used at the right time can blow up an opposing defense—-this team has a chance to be really special injuries don’t seem to slow us down and thats a direct reflection on the coaching Rex is a god send and if he gets us a superbowl win he will be nothing less than a NEW YORK GOD—-IN REX WE TRUST now lets go put far on his back—and in the words of Artie old school “we’ll see you in Dallas”

  24. By IRA on Oct 5, 2010 | Reply

    Randy, Thanks! Leon Johnson what could’ve been if he didn’t get hurt? The Natural as Parcells use to call him was never the same after his injury except for when we played the Bears in 02 and he burnt us.

  25. By russ on Oct 5, 2010 | Reply

    kept clowney to dump woodhead???? duhhhclowney release too late!!!

  26. By 37 year fan on Oct 5, 2010 | Reply

    Just saw we are Ranked # 1 Most Powerfull Team in the N.F.L. …….in the power rankings …. That’s a first,….In my Lifetime….. Am I Dreaming ???

  27. By scjoe on Oct 5, 2010 | Reply

    Ira/coat They mentioned during the telecast that it was the first time in the history of the NFL that it had been done.

  28. By davetharave on Oct 5, 2010 | Reply

    I don’t know about anyone else but I feel sick watching Woodhead in a Patriots uniform catching passes and scoring touchdowns. He was going to be our next Chrebet !! Instead now the Patriots have 2 WELKERS !! Walt you are right, and he will be missed, I think we’re going to regret this in the future, and as much as Rex said good things about him it seems like we really didn’t do nearly enough to keep him.

  29. By Ray on Oct 5, 2010 | Reply

    The Bills D brought back memories of year 2 of Mangini’s regime. Changing from the 4-3 to the 3-4 and not having the right personnel to run it. It will be a long painful year for Buffalo.

  30. By Ray on Oct 5, 2010 | Reply

    Off note, but maybe some of you guys like Ira or ’64 Tom can answer this for me. I have never gotten to go to many Jets games in person, and those I have have mostly been away games. When did the Jets Chant come into being? The first I heard it was Boomer on ESPN doing it before showing Jets highlights. When do you guys remember first hearing it?

  31. By Row on Oct 5, 2010 | Reply

    Farve who? If we gameplan for Favre, we will lose. Gut check guys, we have the 22nd pass defense in the NFL. I would also assume we are at the bottom of the league in sacks. We have progressed from Revis island to letting a guy tear us apart across the middle for 166 yards, then criticizing him publicly to make it okay. I know what the scores were, but we’re in for a pounding if someone can take a good look at the film.
    I welcome Holmes back to our neck of the woods, he will be spectacular despite the lack of practice. Sanchez has looked great statistically buuutttt, only about 15 yards down the field with three targets running the same direction. Trust me, someone will notice. I think it will be the Vikings defensive coordinator. What kind of release is Keller going to get with the Vikings DE’s bumping him from time to time. This is the pivotal game. This is the one.
    The Vikings didn’t spend 20 mil on Favre to make this season a wash. I hate to say it, but I am going to hold my breath with this game. This one is on the coordinators.
    #1 FIX THE SAFETY PLAY NOW! (YES, THIS INCLUDES THE HUGE HOLE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD)
    #2 WORK ON TIMED INTERMEDIATE 2-3 STEP DROP PASSES
    #3 HIT FAVRE ON HIS BLIND SIDE, DON’T SEND THE SAFETY
    #4 GET BOTH BACKS IN THE BACKFIELD AT THE SAME TIME

  32. By Arte Old School Section 327 on Oct 5, 2010 | Reply

    RAY, The chant started when we moved from the Polo Grounds to Shea Stadium in ’64.. That was when we changed our name from the Titans to the J-E-T-S.. Being right next to the airports, Jets were flying over the stadium constantly during every game.. It was annoying and yet awesome, too.. The cheer started back then.. The Boomer, Chris Berman was my camp counselor.. And as much as I love him, he did not make up the cheer.. He is an old time fan, though, as you can imagine.. Along with Boomer Esiason and Keyshawn Johnson.. both ex-Jets who know what we do now..
    As far as ROW is concerned, I hear you.. but lighten up, bro.. You’re giving too much credit to Minnesota.. Yes, this is a big game..BUT we are clicking on all cylinders.. After all, this is our real season opener!! Watch.. As Ralph Cramden used to say “How sweet it is!” Each and every JET victory will too be so sweet!! Like Week 2 vs. NE.. Week 3 @ Miami!! Pummellling Buffalo… !!! Each and every week will get sweeter and sweeter.. See you in Dallas :-)

  33. By Mike Jet Vet on Oct 5, 2010 | Reply

    I want this game bad believe that ..but come on guys stop with the Kill B-F the man deserves respect Sanchez may become great but 20 years of getting hit sacked broken bones and when his father passed he played one of his greatest games ..when sanchez matches that then talk about him in the same breath with MR B-F GO JETS

  34. By 37 year fan on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    I am extremely confident coming into this game ….This is a big game…..The vikings have looked terrible…..Two most important keys to This game….Jets offensive line must play well ,….and defense stops Adrian Peterson …That’s it .

  35. By 37 year fan on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Also just saw Patriots just lost Randy Moss , what a bunch of idiots …. Who do they expect to step up now ? ..Now we can throw a double on Welker …They are finished ! ! The Pats are moving in a backwards direction …..

  36. By CLO on Oct 6, 2010 | Reply

    Jets are doing great. All the players played outstanding Sunday. Rex was what the Jets needed, and now with Sanchez and the talented players we got, we can go ALL THE WAY. Edwards, Keller, LT , and now Holmes we can be dangerous. Played smart and protect the ball. Jets will rule!

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