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Friends Before, Later, but Not for Next 3½ Hours

Posted by Randy Lange on November 14, 2010 – 12:16 pm

The Ryans Express is under way at Cleveland Browns Stadium today. Jets head coach Rex Ryan and his twin brother, Rob, the Browns’ defensive coordinator, just broke up after chatting with each other at the 20-yard line.

Apparently all is forgotten — Rex’s impersonation of his brother at his news conference this week, the “bounty” he placed on his brother. But really, of course, it’s not forgotten, only put aside, because soon the two will be trying to kick each other’s butts all over this stadium hard by the banks of Lake Erie.

That brother vs. brother theme will be repeated many times on the field and over the CBS airwaves — Jim Nantz and Phil Simms handling the call. After all, Rob is the DC for Eric Mangini, who is in his second year as head coach of the Browns after three seasons leading the Jets. Reports are that as affable and low-key as Mangini has been this week, he wants to topple the team that let him go after the 2008 regular-season finale.

Then there are the storylines threaded throughout the rosters. WR Braylon Edwards is back playing against the team that let him go to the Jets in trade early last season. Brodney Pool was let go after last season and is the Jets’ starting safety.

And the Browns roster is dappled with former Jets — DEs Kenyon Coleman and Brian Schaefering, LBs Eric Barton, David Bowens, Jason Trusnik and Blake Costanzo, S Abram Elam, WR Chansi Stuckey, P Reggie Hodges and QB Brett Ratliff.

And while all that lends an air of friendly familiarity to the game, the competitiveness will rise to the surface in about an hour. The Jets like where they’re at as one of five teams in the NFL and one of three in the AFC with two losses, but they’re working hard to solve some of their issues, such as their franchise-record pace in committing penalties and also their third-down defense, lack of interceptions and passing accuracy on offense.

The Browns, meanwhile, have gone from glum to upbeat after correcting their 1-5 start with stunning win at New Orleans and last week at this same stadium over the Patriots. The fans on the way into the stadium are sounding confident about their chances against the Jets and some T-shirts, such as some Braylon Edwards models, appear to be selling well.

Mangini has certainly not allowed his team to get overconfident, but they know how important this game is to the credibility of their program, and the Jets know how important it is to continue to win and build momentum as the season heads deeper into November and teams start to separate themselves in the standings.

Update, 12:25 p.m.: The Ryan brothers were just joined by the Ryan father, Buddy, who is here at the game. The three put their arms around each other at midfield for photographers, including our intrepid Al Pereira. We’ll have some of those photos among all the great images Al will provide for us after the game.

Weather Forecast

The weather could factor into this game. The morning began chilly and rainy. The rain has stopped and the forecast is for temperatures in the low 50s under mostly cloudy skies. The key is the wind, which is forecast to blow at 14 mph from the west-southwest. That should mean that punters, passers and kickers will have the wind behind them when moving from left to right on your TV screen and blowing in their faces moving right to left. At the moment, though, the wind doesn’t seem to be too bad and the sun has even struggled through here and there.

Inactive Lists

The Jets announced their inactive list 90 minutes before kickoff as usual. The inactives are CB Marquice Cole, LB Josh Mauga, OL Vlad Ducasse, DTs Jarron Gilbert and Marcus Dixon, and TEs Matt Mulligan and Jeff Cumberland. Kellen Clemens is again the third quarterback.

That means two who have been inactive for long stretches this season will be in uniform and ready to roll this afternoon: rookie RB-ST Joe McKnight and second-year LB Jamaal Westerman.

The Browns’ IA list includes QB Jake Delhomme, WRs Carlton Mitchell and Demetrius Williams, OL Steve Vallos, DL Brian Sanford, TE Alex Smith and DL Jayme Mitchell. Ratliff is the third QB.

Referee

Today’s referee is Terry McAulay. The Jets are 3-5 in games he’s presided over since 1991, including wins in the Curtis Martin-inspired 6-0 snow win over the Steelers at the Meadowlands in 2003 and last season’s 29-15 triumph that handed the Colts their first loss after 14 wins in Lucas Oil Stadium.

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This is the Nantz-Simms team’s 27th Jets game since they got together in the CBS booth in 2004. The Jets are 11-15 in those games, including this year’s 28-14 comeback triumph over the Patriots for their first victory of any kind in New Meadowlands Stadium back on Sept. 19.


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24 Responses to “Friends Before, Later, but Not for Next 3½ Hours”

  1. By jets13317 on Nov 14, 2010 | Reply

    typical jets from last year can’t stop anyone in the last few minutes

  2. By Tom Spicer on Nov 14, 2010 | Reply

    Frank, said it all offseason Folk stinks he missed 3 kicks & he is costing us this game

  3. By Tom Spicer on Nov 14, 2010 | Reply

    Mark “the magic man” Sanchez or The Sanchize what should we call him?

  4. By scjoe on Nov 14, 2010 | Reply

    Another improbable win. I think we as Jets fans are looking for more convincing wins, but lets remember, the competitive balance in this league today is better then at any other point in history. I will say this though, and I have said it early and often, Folk is just not the answer as a PK. So far, they have overcome his shortcomings, but there is a long way to go, and I believe that somewhere along the way he will ruin this season. There just has to be a better option out on the open market somewhere. Maybe best game all around for MS, but Cotchery made the play of the game, even after he was hurt. Congrats Jets!!!!!!!!!!!

  5. By Tom Spicer on Nov 14, 2010 | Reply

    How many times did Mark escape the heat with his mobility & make something out of nothing? We are 7 & 2 with a bullsize on or back everyweek every team brings there A game vs us & Mark still gets it done! WHAT DOES THIS KID HAVE TO DO TO GET RESPECT ON THIS BOARD? 12 passing touchdowns & 2 rushing touchdowns for a total of 14 touchdowns & only 5 picks 2 of which our guys had the ball in there hands & it was ripped from there grasp. To me these are not picks but the WR’S fault. Bottom line this kid is getting it done & it is time he gets respect on this board & from the Jet fans. Rivers leads the league with 19 touchdowns in a all pass & no run team. Mark in a run & D based team has 14 only 5 off the pace of the league lead.

  6. By Gregg from CA on Nov 14, 2010 | Reply

    Sa-MOKIN’!!

  7. By Gregg from CA on Nov 14, 2010 | Reply

    Hey Randy, what’s the address to send in reimbursement claims for defibrillator rental? On second thought, if this keeps up, I just might buy one to keep on hand! Think the Jets might put an official fan heart-starter in the Jet’s store?

    Time to head upstairs for my victory nap!

  8. By Mike Jet Vet on Nov 14, 2010 | Reply

    Let me say Sanchez grew up today by far the best I’ve seen him play today is the day he became an NFL QB he was clutch all through the second half I’m now a believer .. NEXT time I hear Folks name in the same sentence with J-F I’m going to vomit ..all the outcast Jets took this game right down to the wire and should get their props This kid C-McCoy is a gamer…prediction next season Rob Ryan is head coach of the Cleveland Browns

  9. By GaryC on Nov 14, 2010 | Reply

    please.no more comments about letting cotchery go after this year, this guy is this generations george sauer.he showed his guts today and you will win more games with a guy like this than you will lose.

  10. By Tom Spicer on Nov 14, 2010 | Reply

    Some numbers for you guys Farve 13 picks, Cutler 7, Schuab 7, Palmer 8, Flacco 7, Rodgers 9, Eli 11, Brees 12 & Rivers 8. Mark is always being compared to the top QB’S in the game on this board well now lets compare them less picks than all of them & almost the same amount of touchdowns & more WINS than all of the & the bottom line is WINS.

  11. By scjoe on Nov 15, 2010 | Reply

    Tom Spicer, you got it right as far as the wins are concerned, and that is what is most important, but you didn’t factor in those ten potential INTs that were dropped by the opposition. Point being, let’s not put this guy into Canton just yet. Remember that saying? Because the inconsistency and the inaccuracy is still very much present. I think that everybody on this board wants him to succeed because he is a Jet, but you have to comment on what you see, what is real. Yes, he had a good game today, let’s see how the rest of the season plays out.

  12. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Nov 15, 2010 | Reply

    scjoe, I believe Folk is now 18 for 24, a merely acceptable 75%. If he goes any lower than that or actually does cost us a game on a kick, I doubt he’ll be back next year.

  13. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Nov 15, 2010 | Reply

    Nice analogy of J-Co to Sauer, GaryC, even if J-Co has never been quite the deep threat the deceptively fast Sauer was. The only way J-Co’s not on the team next year is if he drops a ton more balls this year and plays himself off it next summer up against a rookie, though I can’t really see us drafting a rookie WR earlier than about #5 as long as we have the WRs we have now. I can see us picking DL, S, LB, DL, OL, S, and RB in that order, though (if we can get 7 picks). But that’s next year, right now I’d say we have a good shot at 12-4 and then in the playoffs, who knows?… Spicer and scjoe, I agree with you both on Sanchez.

  14. By Tom Spicer on Nov 15, 2010 | Reply

    scjoe, Every other QB in the NFL had 10 passes that were almost picked off as well the bottom line is the total number of picks, the total number of touchdowns & the total number of wins. Mark has less picks than 9 out of the 10 top QBS in the game. More wins than EVERY QB in the game & is keeping pace in touchdown passes with the top QBS in the game. THIS IS WHAT IS REAL! THIS IS WHAT I SEE!

  15. By ArtSoCal on Nov 15, 2010 | Reply

    I agree with Spicer. All of the opposition have had time to study the Jets running game and have made the appropriate adjustments. That is why wins are a struggle now. QB has to go to the air more. Short passes to the side are nothing more than an embellishment to the running game. Show me a QB that throws hard bullets that bounces off the hands and chests of his receivers and I’ll show you a QB that is built to throw long and deep with ACCURACY!

  16. By scjoe on Nov 15, 2010 | Reply

    Spicer, not for anything, but if you are going to “compare” Sanchez with other QBs around the league, go the whole route, don’t just compare him to those who happen to have more picks, let’s look further…Brady 17/4, (7 wins) Cassel 16/4, Peyton 16/4, Orton 16/5, Ryan 16/5 (7 wins) Freeman 12/5 to Sanchez 12/6 (not 5) THEN, look at completion percentage, you will still find him almost dead last. Also, I am not sure about your statement that ALL other QBs around the league have had ten dropped INTs. I would need to see that in black and white to buy into that one.

  17. By Tom Spicer on Nov 15, 2010 | Reply

    SCJoe, I said “12 passing touchdowns & 2 rushing touchdowns for a total of 14 touchdowns” It does not matter how a touchdown is scored as long as it is scored so he has 14 like I said. Above I was listing big name QB’S who have more picks than him the same way you listed big name QB’s that have less than him. So you listed 6 hear are my 9 Farve 16 picks, Cutler 9, Schuab 7, Palmer 11, Flacco 7, Rodgers 9, Eli 13, Brees 12 & Rivers 8. So he has 2 more picks than Peyton & Brady the best 2 QB’S in the game. He has 7 less than Eli, 3 less than Rodgers, 5 less than Palmer, 10 less than Favre. Completion percentage means nothing to me 1 wins 2 touchdowns 3 picks. He leads the league in wins. He is 3rd for the least amount of picks & is tied for

  18. By Tom Spicer on Nov 15, 2010 | Reply

    total touchdowns in the NFL for a 2nd year QB. To ask anything more of him at this point again is nitpicking.

  19. By calvertpeter104 on Nov 15, 2010 | Reply

    randy, cleveland is on lake erie, toronto is on lake ontario. great win for the jets. team sticks together and finds a way to win. keep it rolling.

  20. By Randy Lange on Nov 15, 2010 | Reply

    Of course it is, calvertpeter104. Just testing you. The fix has been made.

  21. By ArtSoCal on Nov 15, 2010 | Reply

    Those other QBs don’thave their wings clipped like Sanchez, they don’t work for a “bump and grind” offense and I’ve seen plenty of them continously over shoot and under shoot their receivers as though they are deathly afraid of the interception before a good pass is caught. Boomer Esiason said it best. The receivers have to help Sanchez out. You don’t just stand there like a tree and wait for the ball and the defenders to come to you. Once the QB spots you, you have to run towards the QB (on certain plays) and thereby position the defenders behind you so that there are no obstructions between you and the passer. These simply ploys seem to be eluding the coaching staff.

  22. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Nov 15, 2010 | Reply

    scjoe, on balance I gotta go with Spicer on Sanchez, though I see your points, too. We have an HC who doesn’t understand a lot about O and an OC who’s increasingly trying to assert his authority in the face of weapons that the HC doesn’t know how to use. An HC who just knows he loves Brad Smith and “would rather just run the ball” and that’s it. The best WR on our team missed the 1st 4 games and our QB is only starting to click with him now. MS’s 80.5 rating ain’t bad for Year 2, he’s on track for about 3,500 yds, 20+ TDs, 10 or so INTS. And he has heart and a physical toughness that you can’t teach or draft. So while I still say this year and next are critical for him, I’m cautiously/sort of/hopefully/mostly optimistic.

  23. By justin on Nov 15, 2010 | Reply

    scjoe!!! you are a hater!! if you dont like our qb go root for the giants…This kid is the real deal…hes tough…i rather have him then most qbs…and hes only in his second year give him a break…if it wasnt for him we wouldnt be 7-2…and if it werent for our recievers against the pack we would be 8-1…go jets!!!!!!

  24. By scjoe on Nov 15, 2010 | Reply

    Justin, I only answer comments by those I consider educated fans, obviously you are not one of them.

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