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It’s Official: Where the Jets’ 6 Picks Are

Posted by Randy Lange on April 1, 2011 – 8:45 am

The NFL released the full seven-round order for the 2011 draft late Thursday. It holds no surprises for the Jets, who have six selections.

The Green & White currently sit at No. 30 overall, a position similar to their 29th spot last year due to reaching the AFC Championship Game two consecutive years.

The Jets have their own selections in Rounds 1, 3, 4, 5 and 6. They will be alternating between 30 and 29 in each round with the Bears, the NFC Championship Game losers.

They also have the fifth pick of Round 7, 208th overall, from the Cardinals in last year’s trade for S Kerry Rhodes. They don’t have their picks in Round 2, which went to San Diego in the Antonio Cromartie trade, and Round 7, which went to Detroit (and has since been traded to San Francisco) to finish the trade for QB Kevin O’Connell.

The number of selections could always change, needless to say. If GM Mike Tannenbaum and the Jets spend their six picks, it would be the most in one draft since 2008. In ’09 the Jets had three choices and last year they had four. The last time they had more selections in one draft was 2006, when they had 10 choices, some of which brought in D’Brickashaw Ferguson, Nick Mangold, Kellen Clemens, Eric Smith, Brad Smith, Leon Washington and Drew Coleman.

The Jets’ selections:

Round 1 — 30th overall (own selection)

Round 2 — 61st (to SD in Antonio Cromartie trade)

Round 3 — 94th (own)

Round 4 —126th (own)

Round 5 —161st (own)

Round 6 —194th (own)

Round 7 — 208th (from ARZ in Kerry Rhodes trade)

Round 7 — 231st (own, to DET in Kevin O’Connell trade, then to SF)


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93 Responses to “It’s Official: Where the Jets’ 6 Picks Are”

  1. By Tom Spicer on Apr 1, 2011 | Reply

    Draft D, D & then draft some more D.

  2. By IRA on Apr 1, 2011 | Reply

    Tom,
    They will but i would be shocked if they don’t draft an OL and possibly a WR too. That 06 class was [like my dear friend Joe B would say] STELLAR!

  3. By will on Apr 1, 2011 | Reply

    Load up on Def. If player you want is not there, trade and stock picks or future picks
    Use money from unused draft picks on signing our guys.

  4. By dougmc on Apr 1, 2011 | Reply

    If we don’t trade out of 30th pick, we should take NT or DE or LB. For the 94th pick take best available Safety or WR if we don’t hang on to Edwards. Hopefully someone wants back in to first round and we get second round pick plus whatever deal Mr.T makes…Gotta have it this year…

  5. By scjoe on Apr 1, 2011 | Reply

    Not a very good stat Randy when 6 picks in the draft are the most we had since 2008. That has to catch up to you. I would welcome a trade down in to the top of round 2, and pick up at least one more pick. I think most of their need position players will still be there then. It is looking more and more likely that the CBA will not be settled before the draft, so that will eliminate getting any more picks by any of the players who have been tendered.

  6. By GaryC on Apr 1, 2011 | Reply

    the important numbers are not that the jets have 6 picks, they only have one pick in the first 64 while patriots have 3 in the first 33.

  7. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Apr 1, 2011 | Reply

    GaryC has the key insight of the day, unfortunately. Not unfortunately to see GaryC be on the money, but to see the Pats eating our lunch when it comes to the draft.

  8. By matt on Apr 1, 2011 | Reply

    Reed is the guy at 30. If he’s gone, NT Taylor.

  9. By Westcoast GangGreen on Apr 1, 2011 | Reply

    GaryC & Jet Nation will everybody quit worrying what the heck the Patriots do / or how many picks they have in the up coming draft or any other draft for that matter..the hell with them. Trust Woody , Mike and Rex to do whats best for Gang Green. And, they will get it done in the draft, these guys are not the same old Jet management.. Then our beloved JETS will take of business on the feild when they meet the Pats twice..again the HELL with N England !!!!!!!!!!!! Go J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS…………

  10. By scjoe on Apr 1, 2011 | Reply

    spicer, from earlier post.. you are great at searching for “selected stats” to compare MS to other QBs. to help your cause.It is not my intention to make you look foolish, but you leave me no choice. So, you want to compare MS to other QBs? Lets do it.. Brady 36 TDs 4 INTs TD to INT ratio (9-1) Cassel 27 TDs 7 INTs (4-1) Freemen 25 TDs 6 INTs (4-1) Vick 21 TDs 6 INTs (3.4-1) Rothlisberger 17 TDs 5 INTs (3.2-1) Ryan 28 TDs 9 INTs (3-1) See how easy that can be? Now, do you want to start comparing their completion percentages too? You find your stats and I will find mine and we will compare if that is what you want to do. As for Johnny U being “the greatest football player ever” I don’t even think he was the greatest QB. So what’s the point?

  11. By scjoe on Apr 1, 2011 | Reply

    cont. you talk as though a 3-1 TD to INT ratio is an impossible task, it is not, look at some of the players above who have achieved it last season alone. Freeman, just as much experience as MS, but not the quality WRs MS has. Cassel starting experience about the same, less at WR then MS, and played in 2 (TWO) different systems at least (NE-KC) How about Vick? His first year starting since coming back and another new system? How about Ryan, just one more year in the league then MS? See sir, stats can work both ways, I have been telling you that for 2 years now. If you want to bring them up be impartial at least.

  12. By Charliejet on Apr 2, 2011 | Reply

    Westcoast I couldn’t have said it better – lets just keep in our own backyard stop looking over the fence. Who cares about NE. GO JETS!!

  13. By GaryC on Apr 2, 2011 | Reply

    thank you jet fan tom for the accolades,touching some of those keys to express it must have been heart wrenching but at least we agree on the prospects of not having draft picks.

  14. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Apr 2, 2011 | Reply

    Denial isn’t a game plan, Westcoast, for the draft, a footballl game, or anything else.

  15. By GaryC on Apr 2, 2011 | Reply

    westcoastganggreen, with all the praise being heaped on tannenbaum, let us not forget he did draft gholston, jury is still out on wilson and lowery.also has it been a slam dunk with the signing of bart scott.and I think rex’s ego took a bit of a hit when even he could not make a player of gholston.

  16. By KWfan66 on Apr 2, 2011 | Reply

    That is so true WesCoast…Amen to that. And if all are wondering, the Patsies over the years have done horrible in the draft with all the picks they have had. With the exception of their TE and CB last year…and Brady way back when….where is everyone else. Just turned out to be mediocre players. The coach can coach but stinks at picking talent.

  17. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Apr 2, 2011 | Reply

    Which reminds me, GaryC, who do you like in the draft for the Jets this year? You’re usually pretty on target.

  18. By GaryC on Apr 2, 2011 | Reply

    kwfan66,have you heard of ty warren, vince wolfork,logan mankins, matt light,deon branch, richard seymour. these are just some of the horrible picks the pats have made.

  19. By Tom Spicer on Apr 2, 2011 | Reply

    SCJOE, 1ST of all that little list you put together is WAY WAY WAY SMALLER than the list of QBS who did not even come close to your 3 to 1. 2ND Charlie Weis was the OC for the Pats & for KC this year so Cassel new the plays already you said he was under two different system WRONG! 3RD Cassel may have only started 3 years (which is still one more than Mark) but that was his 6th year in the league SIXTH if he didnt do great this year he never would have! 4TH So you named 5 QBS that did 3 to 1 or better do you want me to name the other 27 in the league that did not do 3 to 1 or better. I named big name guys that did not do it if you want me to put all 27 names I will. So now I am done making YOU look foolish.

  20. By Tom Spicer on Apr 2, 2011 | Reply

    Also to add to the above Cassel’s 1st year starting 21 TD’S 11 picks under 2 to one. 2nd year starting 16 TD’S & 16 picks 1 to 1. According to you he must be a bust well guess what KC stuck with him & this year it payed off. P.S. let me know when you are ready for those 27 names so I can crush your 5

  21. By Jimmer on Apr 2, 2011 | Reply

    I’m with Will(sort of), trade down for more picks. That 1st pick is not gonna be worth much as far as getting a great player. Stockpile future picks so we can trade up next year and get a dominant player(ot 2).

  22. By IRA on Apr 2, 2011 | Reply

    Here is the Pats draft breakdown since 06. They have drafted 51 players. 11 have become starters and 5 of those are from last years draft. 19 are with other teams and 8 are out of the NFL. I am repeating myself with this nugget but i love doing it. Their 06 and 07 draft combined for 19 players. Only 2 remain with the team Gostkowski and Meriweather. And Meriweather i guess is safe to say will not play this year if he is found guilty of that gun shooting. BB is loaded up this year and has 6 picks in the 1st 3 rds. Wonder what he is going to do?

  23. By scjoe on Apr 2, 2011 | Reply

    I will take the middle road so to speak on the pats and their envious position in the upcoming draft. Any Jet fan would want to be in that position, no matter what you say or write. But it is what it is and there is not a thing we can do about it except hope that our front office people have done, and are still doing their homework on the draft prospects, because it ain’t no sure thing no matter where you draft or how many picks you have, it comes down to how these college players transition in to the pro game, and we have seen first hand that it can go both ways.

  24. By kirk on Apr 2, 2011 | Reply

    I hope somebody takes Cromartie so w get that other 1st and 3rd pickthen they can use it to move up and get one of the premier D lineman the use their 1st rd pick to get the best corner on the board and maybe even be able to trade the 2 3rd rd picks to get into the 2nd and take the best safety or wr.

  25. By GaryC on Apr 2, 2011 | Reply

    to jet fan tom about this years draft,this year is really going to be a crap shoot, because even the nfl network is saying there can be more busts this year than booms.that is why the jets should be hoping the patriots pick some busts this year.I like wilkinson from temple but unless jets move up he will be gone.they keep talking about the corner williams from texas who can be moved to safety which is a position the jets need.I want to see rudolph the tightend from notre dame is working out this week and if his workouts are good I still might like him to give sanchez another weapon, and line him up with keller to really put pressure on linebackers and safeties.

  26. By Jimmer on Apr 2, 2011 | Reply

    SCJOE & SPICER, Chill out. He was good for a 22 y/o QB, not question about it.
    He was no all pro either. Doesn’t look like he’ll be there this year either. But, he looks like he might be one day. He’s shown the ability to come back,,, sometimes. He progressed from yr 1 to yr 2. But he appears injury prone. This may haunt him in future yrs if he doesn’t get in better shape. He gets more press than he should(MADDEN, COME-ON), but he’s no slouch, especially for his age. Let’s no convict or glorify him yet, he’s way too young.

  27. By Austin-15yrsyoung on Apr 3, 2011 | Reply

    The Jets need to use the 30th pick on a safety, only if Raheem Moore, FS out of UCLA is still there. If Moore is gone the Jets need to take Tyler Sash SS out of Iowa in the third round. Otherwise, the 30th pick should be used on the defensive front seven, OLB that can put pressure on the QB by himself or DT who can stuff the run and force the QB to move around in the pocket. Another CB would be unnecessary just because the Jets have used too many picks on corners in the past years. The Jets could trade the 30th pick to anthoer team for a third round pick and a defensive lineman. I think the Jets werent thinking when they released Gholston because they could have traded him for possibly a fourth round pick because he is young and coachable.

  28. By Chris CArdone on Apr 3, 2011 | Reply

    J E T S JETS JETS JETS WE GOT IT THIS YEAR

  29. By wayne on Apr 3, 2011 | Reply

    In my opinion, the sole reason the Jets are even spoken of in the same sentence with the Pats right now is because the Patsies have drafted so poorly. I can’t remember when last they didn’t have more picks than everyone else and the heart of that team grows older by one more year(MrBundchen)….As for MS, if he can get Jets to championship games at this point we have to concede he can get to SB and with right team around him should be able to win one…That being said, I will forever be waiting for the other shoe to drop with this kid. To say his decision making off the field is suspect is an understatement, for reasons you all know and I cannot say if I want this comment posted(LOL) (Randy and I have an unspoken understanding).

  30. By scjoe on Apr 3, 2011 | Reply

    Spicer, yes I am ready for you to show me a list of 27 (TWENTY SEVEN) starting QBs who didn’t come close to obtaining a 3-1 TD to INT ratio. Remember, my original statement was “closer to 3-1 then 2-1) so, yes I am ready, go ahead and show me all TWENTY SEVEN QBs. If for any reason you can not show me TWENTY SEVEN and I mean TWENTY SEVEN of them we will talk about who is looking foolish once again, because YOU made the statement. Now, you like stats so much, how about these, MS..TDs #19, INTs #13, passing % #29, yards #16, yards per game #25. QB rating #27 That is bottom half, a couple way bottom, of EVERY single major category, so exactly what are you trying to say?

  31. By Tom Spicer on Apr 3, 2011 | Reply

    What I am trying to say for the slow guys in the room are YOU said next year Mark should have at least 60% completion percentage & I said completion percentage is overated & that some of the greatest players ever to play the game never had 60% completion percentage. You also said next year that he should have a 3 to 1 TD TO INT ratio or close to it. Than I put together a list of great NFL QB’S who this year not only did not have a 3 to 1 ratio but most of them had a 2 to 1 ratio. I named only good QBS cause I did not want to name the entire NFL. So you came back with a tiny list of the QBS that actually did 3 to 1 & that list is only like 15% of the QB’S in the game. So the point being is both of your statements are wrong he doesnt need 3

  32. By Tom Spicer on Apr 3, 2011 | Reply

    to 1 or close to 3 to 1 TD to INT ratio to be good & he also does not need to complete 60% of his passes to be good. If he has 22 TDS & 11 picks is that not a good year? If he has 24 TDS & 12 picks is that not a good year? & if he has 26 TDS & 13 picks is that not a good year? The answer to all of them is YES they are good years. As long as he has over 20 total TDS & less than 17 picks (1 per game) & we are consistantly in the playoffs THATS ALL THAT MATTERS!

  33. By scjoe on Apr 3, 2011 | Reply

    ok tom, I will number them out like you do. 1-Where are those 27 names you promised me? 2- Exactly WHO says completion percentage is over rated? 3- Yes, I said that in his 3rd year he should have closer to 3-1 TD INTs then 2-1, and I will stand by that, what do you believe that figure should be in his 3rd year in the same system? 4- What about all those other stats I throw out there, do you want to compare them to other QBs in the league too? 5- Check the stats again and tell me exactly where he finished in the TD to INT ratio this past season. 6-For the purposes of this debate, lets not talk about making playoffs, and how deep we go in to the playoffs, lets talk about QBs and their development.

  34. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Apr 3, 2011 | Reply

    That would be great if we could trade up for Wilkinson, GaryC.

  35. By Mike Jet Vet on Apr 3, 2011 | Reply

    Tom-Spicer .. as usual your ranting and raving .. Freeman Ryan Brady Vick Big Ben haven’t the weapons M-S has… in my opinion any one of these guys had lets start with our O-line best in the business then having B-E- S-H – D-K to throw to and L-T -T-Rich S-G to hand off.. come on your kidding right I think your man crush for Sanchez is clouding your judgment. Roles were reversed M-S wouldn’t be above 50% possibly not even getting to the playoffs let alone AFC Champ game give it a rest already

  36. By Tom Spicer on Apr 3, 2011 | Reply

    MIKE THE EX JET, Vick – Desean Jackson, Brent Celek & Jermey Maclin. Brady – Welker, Hernandez & Gronkowski. Ryan – Roddy White & Tony Gonzales Big Ben – Ward, Wallace, Miller & Sanders. Do you even think before you open your mouth?

  37. By Tom Spicer on Apr 3, 2011 | Reply

    SCJOE, 1 You can not pick & choose what topics are talked about the playoffs & wins are what count & what are the bottom line is winning 2 Tom 64 & I and many other guys think completion percentage is overated & I proved it with stats of QBS I posted during the season 3 Your 3 to 1 is not realistic & this will prove it AGAIN 1 Brees 2 Peyton 3 Rivers 4 Rodgers 5 Schuab 6 Palmer 7 Flacco 8 Cutler 9 Fitzpatrick 10 Garrard 11 Orton 12 Bradford 12 Sanchez 13 Hill 14 Kitna 15 Henne 16 Collins 17 Mcnabb 18 A Smith 19 Cambell 20 Hasselback 21 Favre 22 T Smith 23 Clausen 24 Anderson 25 Moore 26 Kolb 27 Skelton. All of the QBS I just named did not have 3 to 1 & some of them are hall of famers, so of them are pro bowlers & so of them you could make

  38. By Tom Spicer on Apr 3, 2011 | Reply

    a case that they are the best QBS in the game but all of them have started NFL games this year & NONE of them are 3 to 1. Also you want to bring up stats lets bring them up I wil compare the 2nd year stats of Mark to all of the QBS in the NFL if you want & 90% of them his will be in line with them. Do you want to compare playoff records or numbers of Marks to the other NFL QBS in there first 2 years? Cause his will be as good or better than 90% of them.

  39. By IRA on Apr 4, 2011 | Reply

    Austin, Good choice with Sash. They love drafting players out of the Big Ten. Since 01 they have drafted 17 probably the most of any conference. I think they will draft Jarrett from Temple if he is there in the mid to late rds.
    You guys just keep debating over Sanchez. Like i have said in the past throw all those #’s out. The kid knows how to win and you want the ball in his hands with the game on the line.
    GO JETS!!!!!

  40. By Mike Jet Vet on Apr 4, 2011 | Reply

    Cont. I will say and have on a few occasions yes Sanchez shows promise and has the talent, I do believe one day he’ll be that guy he’s not there yet … I like the fact he doesn’t get rattled then has ability to come back after his usual slow or bad 1st half in most games he plays he needs to be more consistent and that’s my problem with him hopefully this year if football is played he’ll get it together ..Tom FYI how about trying to give some credit to some other players on our team instead of fixating only on M-S

  41. By GaryC on Apr 4, 2011 | Reply

    jet fan tom, yes move up in draft but not trading draft picks,that is why I continually mention trading revis, I know people think I am crazy.but if he decides again this year holding out like he mentioned last year, it would be wise to replenish the front seven with new talent.wilson needs to be more than a nickle back seeing he was a first round pick.Jerry jones of the cowboys is always looking for name talent, jets could get the number nine,keep their own, and maybe get cowboys second for revis.stranger things have happened.

  42. By scjoe on Apr 4, 2011 | Reply

    spicer, you forgot to mention Clemens, Brunell, Pennington, and most of the other back ups who didn’t have a 3-1 ratio. C’mon man, be realistic. Half your list were not starters, and a lot of the starters you did mention were all above 2-1, so whats your point? How far away were they? You say I can not pick and choose what topics to talk about, but you consistently pick and choose what stats to talk about and who to compare those stats with, you know, like you did above with MJV, I didn’t see your list of weapons for Freeman or Cassell, just the ones you wanted to pick out.

  43. By scjoe on Apr 4, 2011 | Reply

    Ira, with all due respect, and you know I have as much respect for you as a Jet fan then anyone on this site. I am not saying to spicer that MS is a bust by any stretch, what I am saying, and I will stand by it, is there has to be improvement in many area’s including completion percentage, which mr spicer seems to think is over rated, TD ti INT ratio needs to improve. But don’t take my word for it, look at the stats for his two years as a starter and tell me what you see. You say he is “a winner” well, “the team” has been to two conference championship games and didn’t win either, so, exactly what has he won? Why do you consider him a winner? Rodgers is a winner!

  44. By Tom Spicer on Apr 4, 2011 | Reply

    Mike, I do not want to talk about this anymore either but everytime I read the posts SCJOE takes shots for no reason & wont just drop it.

  45. By Leon on Apr 4, 2011 | Reply

    the team needs to get younger and pick up extra picks if possible. The CBA will make it hard to make trades for draft choices, but they need to draft DL, LB and OL. Their LB’s are very slow.

  46. By Geo on Apr 4, 2011 | Reply

    Tom, MS is now an elite QB in this league. He has all the intangibles and skills needed along with being a leader. Hopefully we give Shonn Greene a lot more touches this year and he shows out with a break out year. Lets pray we resign our 2 stud recievers and keep B-Smith as well. Rex will have us ready this year for our Superbowl win!

  47. By jetfanwhodoesn'tcareaboutstats on Apr 4, 2011 | Reply

    Is there another jets site where tomspicer, scjoe and jetfan64 don’t tell everyone that their always wrong? If so, what is it? Get real guys.

  48. By Tom Spicer on Apr 5, 2011 | Reply

    I got this off of a sports website “According to ESPN’s John Clayton, the players offered to return to the bargaining table for a week of talks on March 28 only to be turned down by the owners.” It does not look like this will be over anytime soon.

  49. By IRA on Apr 5, 2011 | Reply

    scjoe,
    You are right Mark has several areas that need improvement. And yes comp % is one at the top of the list. In todays game we all know that QB’s need to be at least at 60% if not more. You know what it just might never happen with him. Thats something that can’t be taught.I thought headed into last season he needed to flip flop his TD to INT ratio. Well he did and hope it continues to get better and better has his career goes on. Would love some day to seee him at a Chad like 22-6 like in 02.
    OK Rodgers was the big prize winner last year but that doesn’t mean Mark isn’t a winner. It was only his 2nd season and they would’ve beat Pitt if he got the ball one more time.Sometimes #’s don’t tell the whole story.

  50. By IRA on Apr 5, 2011 | Reply

    scjoe,
    I respect your opinion too and like may other knowledgeable fans on this site we all have our on opinion. You can’t say he is not a winner after posting a 19-12 record [less Tampa 09] and 4-2 in the postseason with all those postseason games on the road and he knocked out two #1 seeds.

  51. By IRA on Apr 5, 2011 | Reply

    Can somebody PLEASE explain to me why players are appearing on NFL Network. Know D. Jackson was on last night.Is there a LOCKOUT or not? Players should have nothing to do with any part of the league right now that the owners own. He is not appearing for free.

  52. By GaryC on Apr 5, 2011 | Reply

    ira,I keep telling you they are working together,players and owners to stiff the fans,I also mentioned a week ago about the colleges might move some games to sunday, and lo and behold that was mentioned a few days ago that the Pac 10 has thought about that idea.so if the conglomerates can’t get their act together their will still be football to be seen.

  53. By GaryC on Apr 5, 2011 | Reply

    I also need to mention about ochocinco, does this guy have such little respect to other sports organizations that he thinks he can walk into major league soccer and get a starting job.you talk about these players arrogance,this only epitomizes what these players are all about.

  54. By scjoe on Apr 5, 2011 | Reply

    Ira, points well taken, although I am not quite sure I agree with the “winner” label after posting a 19-12 record and no championships, that can be debatable. As for this years playoffs? Two of the three games (Indy-NE) were pretty much won by the defense, in the Pitt game the defense was a big contributor to losing, that, and the fact MS was 7-15 63 yds no TDs in the first half, we lost by 6, that was the original point I made, it is true, it is fact, and I didn’t degrade anyone. I just told it like it was, but spicer took offense and began the “debate” I am a guy who spreads the criticism around as well as the praise, I think that is what a real fan of a team should do.

  55. By scjoe on Apr 5, 2011 | Reply

    jetfanwhodontcare…if you were to find another site where everyone agreed with everyone, every time, about everything, and weren’t’ allowed to voice their opinions and expressions on each issue without being ridiculed, please don’t tell anyone here about it, because it would have to be the worlds most boring sports web site ever. So, be my guest, go search for it. I will stay right here with real Jet fans and do what we do.

  56. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Apr 5, 2011 | Reply

    Sure that’s not “jetsfanwhocantread”? Check the record, I’m constantly telling people, including those who rarely post, what good points they’re making, including GaryC right now. And yeah, I’m right about a few things now and then. Currently I’m right about a few of the things that are holding us back like a HC who’s clueless on O, a OC who’d rather be George Costanza (“Do the opposite”) than score TDs, and a QB who’s not all there yet but better be soon. Oh, and I guess I was right about needing guys like Edwards and Holmes when Rex was pretending J-Co and Stuckey were enough. Trading up still sounds good, GaryC, but I don’t know if I’d go as far as trading Revis. If he keeps threatening to hold out, sure. Fool me once and all that..

  57. By IRA on Apr 5, 2011 | Reply

    scjoe, Yeah Mark didn’t light it up in the 1st half and i am not making excuses for him but he had a couple of big drops that would’ve kept drives going.
    gary, You are right there will be football on sunday early Sept and i doubt it will be NFL until later in the month. Very interested to see how the schedule will look early. Normally it would be released the next week or so. Wonder if the owners approved the schedule or they changed it up with the possibilty of moving the first two weeks to the end of the schedule?

  58. By IRA on Apr 5, 2011 | Reply

    Just getting back to Sanchez for a second. I just saw his #’s in the Bears, Colts, Pats and Pit games. All on the road in cold weather except for Indy. Well his comp % was as follows. 64.9,58.1,64.0 and 60.6. Tortal avg 61.9. I think that should answer a lot of ?’s.

  59. By IRA on Apr 5, 2011 | Reply

    Sorry i forgot the first Pitt game with a 65.5 comp %. Add that to the above #’s and its clear he has improved in his accuracy.

  60. By Tom Spicer on Apr 5, 2011 | Reply

    SCJOE, The Pats playoff game was won by the D? The O score 28 points (with 3 TDS by Mark) any game you score 28 points you better win it or the D stunk up the joint. The D gave up 21 points a good game but not a great game either. I would give just as much credit to the O if not more than I would give to the D for that game. Your nit picking is amazing you did say that the D did not perform well but you did not include that we had zero running game & you talking about a person not having a good half but the bottom line is he had a good game. His final stats were good but the final stats for the D & for the running game were bad.

  61. By scjoe on Apr 5, 2011 | Reply

    64tom, Ira, what do you guys think of Stephen Paea out of Oregon State at # 30, if he is still there? Not as a NT, I don’t think he has the bulk at this point, but as a DE. I know he don’t have the ideal height for the position, but boy does he have everything else. Otherwise at this point I think Taylor would be a good choice, kind of cooled a little on Moore the safety, but I could certainly live with that pick as well.

  62. By wayne on Apr 5, 2011 | Reply

    I love you guys!!! Keep firing scjoe!……tom 64. Love it when the fur gets to flying. LOL.

  63. By jetfanwhodoesn'tcareaboutstats on Apr 5, 2011 | Reply

    A real Jet’s fan fan likes them no matter their decisions or draft picks or record. That’s what being a real fan is. Remember, it is just a GAME. They are not curing cancer. I guess it doesn’t matter that they have been in the top four two years in row. Obviously not good enough for “real ” fans such as yourself. If you guys are so knowledgable and no better then Mike T, Rex, and the rest of the jets organization, why don’t you get a job with them and prove you can do better. Instead you just type from your moms basements about how you know better. But don’t get mad at that last statement, because scjoe gives permission to ridicule.

  64. By jetfanwhodoesn'tcareaboutstats on Apr 5, 2011 | Reply

    1 and 15, 4and 12, 16 and 0. Doesnt matter. I love em’. GO JETS!

  65. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Apr 5, 2011 | Reply

    I see Marcus Henry just signed with the Edmonton Eskimos of the CFL, which should remind us all just how hard it is to really crack an NFL team’s roster at WR. Another reason why the emphasis should be on keeping Holmes, Edwards, and J-Co instead of getting lost in fantasies of what anything other than a #1 or #2 draft pick at WR can be expected to do in a first season.

  66. By scjoe on Apr 5, 2011 | Reply

    jetfanwhodontcare..I see you posted another comment on this site, that tells me you didn’t find that passive web site you were searching for, the one where everyone agrees about everything posted every time, WOW! but keep searching, who knows, maybe one day you will actually find one like that, maybe in fantasy land, but what ever works for you. Me? I will stay right here and talk everything Jets with the spicers and the 64toms and the MJVs and all the other “real” Jet fans, sometimes we agree, sometimes we don’t, but that is what makes this web site so interesting. How someone can come on here and read one or two posts, as you did, and judge is beyond me. So keep on searching my friend

  67. By scjoe on Apr 5, 2011 | Reply

    spicer, I will rest my case. I don’t want to offend mr jetfanwhodontcare any more then I already have. So, from now on I agree with everything you say, about every issue involving the NY Jets, we should all do that, no more debating, no more suggesting trades, draft picks, roster moves, no more discussing which college prospect would fit in to the system, no more anything, not until we all get jobs in the front office as mr jetfanwhoreallydontcare recommends. Since that isn’t going to happen anytime soon we can look forward to the new and improved randy’s radar where EVERYBODY agrees with EVERYBODY EVERY TIME. It may get a little boring after a while, but it would make jetfanwhodontcare very happy!

  68. By Walt on Apr 5, 2011 | Reply

    Folks the search is over I have just found our new nose tackle for many years to come his name is Blaine Sumner for the Colorado school of mines.This dude is 6foot 2inches 335Lbs yet runs the forty yard dash in 5.15 seconds.He could also easily claim to be the strongest player in this years draft bench pressing 225Lbs 52times.I believe the combine record is forty nine.Weight lifting is his speciality.To really appreciate him though you have to watch the tape especially the part where he manhandles the first string all american center.

  69. By IRA on Apr 6, 2011 | Reply

    scjoe,
    Paea seems like a nice prospect just don’t get caught up in what he did at the combine. I do think you are right he doesn’t have the size to be a pure NT in the NFL.
    Tom,
    Glad to hear that about Henry. I always like what i saw from him. Great size and hands. Just didn’t have the speed to go against NFL CB’s. He should do very well in the CFL and i will look forward to watching him as the NFL battles it out in court this summer.
    And while the draft should be an exciting time this year its flat for me because of the labor problems. Sorry to repeat myself but RB’s and kickers will be the only positions to have am impact for rookies. With no true spring ball and summer camps this is basically a redshirt year for all rookies.

  70. By IRA on Apr 6, 2011 | Reply

    Imagnine being a team that needs to draft a QB and wants him to play. How is that going to happen unless they settle this soon and i just don’t see that. Also what about teams that have new coaches this year and have to put in a new system? Think they are going to win many games? I doubt it.

  71. By Tom Spicer on Apr 6, 2011 | Reply

    I would not mind getting Paea at all he is strong as a ox & could play DE this year & is young enough that he could put on the weight to become a NT down the road.

  72. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Apr 6, 2011 | Reply

    jetsfanwhocantthink, I haven’t been anywhere near my mom’s basement since Joe was our QB but it’s a given that I “like” the Jets, no awards are given out for just that. I also played football and was watching it before any of the current Jets coaches, so while I won’t say I can do better than them, I’m certainly not afraid to call them on brilliant moves like bloviating over “ground and pound” and then suddenly throwing on 1st and goal or raving about players like Woodhead for 2 yrs and then cutting him for Clowney and then cutting him 2 weeks later. scjoe, Paea looks good to me but like Ira suggests, no more combine heroes a la VG. Hey wayne, who do you like in the draft?

  73. By dougmc on Apr 6, 2011 | Reply

    Martrez Wilson might be there at 30 and If we are not in love with whoever is left at NT or DE, he is top ranked MLB and runs a 4.4 so we can move him outside and have a very strong LB corp. I would still rather trade back to the 38th spot if Cards want to come back to first round to get QB , so we can stock up on picks for this year or next.
    Jenkins isn’t coming back to us because of the Turf? Really?

  74. By wayne on Apr 6, 2011 | Reply

    Tom, I kinda took a break on the whole thing when the “owner unrest ” started. I had few not so nice things to say about these owners and got my knuckles wrapped by the senors….I cooled on the whole thing for a while since….That being said, I think there’ll be a short lockout(relatively) so vet laden teams are gonna have huge advantage. It’s gonna be hard on the rookies so what positions should do well? PASSRUSHERS(DLs,LBs), RBs(not big need). WRs have it hard to begin with. Lockout won’t help. Trade down and acquire talent. Sign as many of their guys as they can, fill key needs with vets. They have an even better chance to win than last year.Stockpile rookies for next year.This should give them edge on Pats too.EXPERIENCEwise.

  75. By GaryC on Apr 6, 2011 | Reply

    I nominate Ira to make the announcement of the jet selection in fourth round.If it turns out to be terrell mcclain of south florida a defensive tackle or eric hagg the safety out of nebraska you heard it here first.remember McKnight last year.

  76. By Mike Jet Vet on Apr 6, 2011 | Reply

    scjoe .. haven’t you figured out this Jetsfanthatdon’tcareaboutstats is clueless or maybe Tom Spicer way to get us all to agree with his M-S is the greatest theory Ha ha Just kidding T-S…Lets me put it this way in my opinion for him to even make that statement isn’t worth a comment reason being if he was for real he’d understand this is Jet Nation we don’t live like that we say what’s on our minds like it or not that’s the way I see it

  77. By scjoe on Apr 6, 2011 | Reply

    Ira, I am not getting caught up with what Paea did at the combine, I think any Jet fan has learned speed and power from a college prospect don’t always translate to success in the pro game, although the numbers he put up can not be ignored. I was also taking into consideration his production at OSU, not exactly a powerhouse on the defensive side of the ball, but he did have 6 sacks and 10 TFL and was a three year starter, where he finished with 14 sacks and 29 TFL from the DT position. I think spicer made a good point about him maybe growing into the NT position down the road, while playing DE right away.

  78. By scjoe on Apr 6, 2011 | Reply

    jetfanwhoreallycantthink, was that comment I just made to Ira ok with you? See, I was answering a comment he made earlier about a particular player, but I promise, I didn’t say he was wrong,or dispute or debate his point. I am trying real hard not to dispute or debate anything written by any one any more about any subject. I will be honest, I find it a little boring, but maybe someone, like yourself, can show me a better format on how to make a point without offending them or telling them they were wrong.

  79. By IRA on Apr 7, 2011 | Reply

    Garyc, Thanks bro we should all go up as a group and get the pick in. The 4th rd as we know it has been a good number for the Jets in the past few years. Kerry, Leon, Fabini, Leon Johnson who was the Natural and would’ve been a starter if not for his injury problems, Dierking, Mizzou, Lowery, and this year? Maybe R. Johnson, Jarrett, Sash or Lefeged.
    scjoe, I guess when you look at Paea as a swing man DE/NT it does make you think of him as a possibilty. I just don’t see him ever getting to the size of a true 3-4 NT which they are going to need. Still want to see what Gilbert and Dixon can do. Problem is how do they develop while they fight over billions in the courts?

  80. By IRA on Apr 7, 2011 | Reply

    My bad how did i forget to add J-Co to that list of 4th rd finds?

  81. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Apr 7, 2011 | Reply

    Interesting ideas, wayne, and you sure won’t hear any overly glowing assessment of the owners from me. Hear, hear, MJV, no PC censorship of free speech on the Jets site or anywhere in the NFL!

  82. By uncle joe on Apr 7, 2011 | Reply

    Love Antonio “My Man”Cromartie once again saying what we the fans are saying. Now he tweets about if players are against blood testing for HGH then they must be hiding something. He is flying up my list of Favorite Jets Players.

  83. By wayne on Apr 7, 2011 | Reply

    Tom 64, Had to get a grip and remember that this IS the Jets(ownership) site. I do appreciate them giving me a forum to vent somewhat and the oppty to witness a doozie of a back and fourth betw you guys every now and again…..If the lockout goes into season, I believe good veteran teams will jump out fast and one of those will go the distance….As for draft hopefully, as always, a good talent(DL or LB)that should go early falls to them. No question #1 priority should be outside rusher. Inside guys take time to develop. With all the sacks they had, they couldn’t get to Roethlisberger when they needed to….As constituted they are still a win now team. They need someone to go get the QB.

  84. By Chris on Apr 7, 2011 | Reply

    LETS GO JETS LETS GO DEFENSE WE NEED SPEED SIZE

  85. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    I wouldn’t worry too much about the Jets’ brass getting too controlling over a team site that can’t even alter the graphic design or much display the team colors. It’s Goodell’s constant overreach you have to worry about. Those are all intriguing thoughts on the draft, but I must say it was a struggle to ask you what your thoughts on it are. Not because your thoughts aren’t always interesting, but this standoff between the owners and the players looks worse every day and I admit,I find it hard to get that excited about guys holding up Jets jerseys in a few weeks when you don’t know how soon they’ll wear them for real.

  86. By IRA on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    Just to show how well the Jets have drafted since 06 take a look at this. league wide according to EPSN 1st and 2nd rd pcks the avg team gets a productive player with a batting avg of .560. The Jets since 06 have drafted Brick, Mangold, Clemens, Revis, Harris, VG, Keller, Sanchez and Wilson. While you need 3 yrs to evaluate the picks so the jury is still out on Wilson the Jets batted .660 way above league avg. Not only are they productive, 4 out of the 9 have become Pro Bowlers with Keller on his way this coming year. If they lose Edwards, Keller should be able to haul in 80 catches.
    Hopefully they will continue that trend this year.
    GO JETS!!!!!

  87. By IRA on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    EA.
    Good stuff on the RB’s position. I wouldn’t be surprised if they bring UFA RB. If Carter for Syracuse somehow slips to the 6th or 7th or maybe even not drafted at all i would like to see them bring him in. Yeah some character issues but could be worth a look.

  88. By GaryC on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    Ira, you make points about jet draft, but in some cases they gave up picks to move up,which kills your depth with draft picks you could have used for that.the top teams through the years selected players that helped without mortgaging too much of the future.the jets depth is lacking and they have been fortunate that they haven’t been killed yet with injury bug except for jenkins, leonhard.

  89. By uncle joe on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    Ira,if that DE Quinn slips to the Vikings would you send Keller and our one for their one and three? Kendrick Ellis is moving into round two and we are gonna have to move up to get him,need ammo! It could be a Franchise Altering move much like the moves up for Revis and Harris.

  90. By uncle joe on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    And by the way,if anyone watches Quinn on youtube,PLEASE keep your eye on #9,DT with long dreds,He’s INSANE! 6’2″ 305lbs Marvin Austen. Don’t know if he would fit on our team and he is being called a “me first” guy,but I would take him!

  91. By uncle joe on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    And if you watch that DE/LB Beal on youtube,click on whole games. Not only do I like him,but keep an eye on my boy Quinten Carter,#20 the safety with dreds too. He is AWESOME in coverage and a very good tackler,good in run support.BEST SAFETY IN THE DRAFT,,,just saying!

  92. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    Thanks for stating the plain and simple rule, at least among relatively sane football fans, that it takes three years to properly evaluate a draft pick, Ira. I was baffled that only a few of us were saying that last year during the completely hasty rush to judgment on McKnight, who now Rex talks about like he has a chance to play as much as Greene and LT.

  93. By Miami Jet on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    need an outside pass-rusher (OLB) and then sign the free agents! (Holmes, 1st) need DT next.

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