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Offense Struggles in Primetime vs. the Ravens

Posted by Eric Allen on October 2, 2011 – 11:55 pm

It was a frightful night for the Jets offense tonight in Baltimore. A month before Halloween and with the Ravens dressed in all black, the hosts tormented the visitors with four takeaways of Mark Sanchez — three of which were returned for touchdowns in a 34-17 Ravens triumph.

Without ailing C Nick Mangold, the Jets’ first offensive snap started the horrors. Rookie Colin Baxter got the ball back to Sanchez without any problems, but the third-year QB was given an unwelcome greeting from All-Everything S Ed Reed. LT D’Brickashaw Ferguson blocked Terrell Suggs on his inside rush, leaving Reed a free line to Sanchez. Reed knocked the ball out and ILB Jameel McClain scooped up the loose change for an easy 6-yard score.

“The protection is supposed to pick that one up,” Sanchez said.  “We just had a miscue and Ed made a great play, coming off the edge on the weak side.  That’s stuff we have to account for and we will moving forward.”

Down just 10-7, Baxter and Sanchez couldn’t complete a clean snap on the Jets’ second possession. Fortunately Shonn Green recovered, but the damage was just delayed. Baxter appeared to get a decent toss to Sanchez in the shotgun early in the second, but the latter couldn’t hang on and LB Paul Kruger recovered at the Jets’ 23. Four plays later, the Ravens made it a 20-7 game on Billy Cundiff’s 38-yard field goal.

Then the Jets went to their emergency plan up front, shifting LG Matt Slauson over to C, removing Baxter from the lineup and inserting Vladimir Ducasse to LG. Haloti Ngata briefly received double-team attention from Ferguson and Ducasse on the outside, but Ngata got free around the end and got another blindside shot on Sanchez. This one was vicious and resulted in another scoop and score as OLB Jarrett Johnson went in from 26 yards out. The game was almost out of hand at 27-7.

But somewhat remarkably, the Green & White still were in the thick of things early in the third. Bolstered by a pair of return touchdowns themselves, the score was 27-17 and Aaron Maybin’s first career sacks and a subsequent Marcus Dixon fumble recovery should have had the Jets at business at the Ravens’ 26. With Baxter back at center this time, Sanchez went play action and fired a ball out to Santonio Holmes. It never got there as CB Lardarius Webb jumped the route, intercepted and ran for an easy 73-yard TD.

“I’m turning my back to the defense and they had a pretty good call on,” Sanchez said.  “I’m trying to get the ball out.  At the end of the day, you just sail it out of bounds.  But they made a pretty good play on it.  They had a pretty good scheme for it.  There are no excuses for interceptions.  You can’t have them — especially in that situation.  You either take the sack or try to throw it of bounds.”

Sanchez had one of his toughest nights as a pro, completing 11 of 35 for 119 yards with a 30.5 passer rating and taking a number of licks in the process.  He has thrown six TDs this season, but his overall turnover total stamds at nine because he’s lost four fumbles and has been intercepted five times.

“He struggled mightily,” said head coach Rex Ryan of Sanchez.  “There’s no question about it… It wasn’t his best day — that’s for sure.   But he’s our quarterback and I believe in him.”

As expected, the Jets struggled to get much on the ground as Shonn Greene was the club’s leading rusher with 23 yards on 10 carries .

A sliver of good news is the Jets will face off against a beleaguered Patriots defense in Week 5.  Also in his postgame news conference, Ryan indicated Mangold might be back in the lineup for the huge divisional clash.

“He’s getting better guys and I’m hopeful he’ll play this weekend,” Ryan said of the player who made the trip but was held out with a high ankle sprain.


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146 Responses to “Offense Struggles in Primetime vs. the Ravens”

  1. By sal on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    whats sad you cant even bench sanchez, the depth of the team on both sides of the ball is bad. Sanchez cant throw the line under the bus, like he did on the post game show, I think the kid got to look in the mirror! And get a back up!

  2. By wayne on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Mark got his tail whooped, but it wouldn’t have matter if Johnny U was back there, that OL would have gotten him killed. As I said early, Mark is going to earn his money this year………….Believe it or not the coming game will be the easiest of the 3 road games……Tom Brady not withstanding……Pretty simple, get to Brady and you beat them……..Their defense is more than suspect.

  3. By viveca on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    One of the worst offensive performances by any Jet team. A good team shouldn’t collapse like this because the starting center is out. Besides; even in earlie games with Mangold still in the lineup, the o-line looked inept and confused. Sanchez , even the few times he had protection was absolutely horrible. Mc Knight, Wilkerson and Maybin were the only positives. What a disappointing night! I felt like the clock had been turned back to the Kotie days!
    I hope Rex stops talking about SB now. The way this offense plays we’ll be lucky to end up eight and eight.

  4. By Mike V on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Maybe Joe Willie was right… again…

  5. By Karan on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Couple of things that we can take away from this game, Ravens defense clearly outplayed. Schottenheimer has got to go, but of course that’s not going to happen…..sigh. O-line needs some serious help and lastly, this is not a super-bowl caliber team or at least they’re just not playing like one yet. It hurts to even think that. I think we can rebound vs. NE like we did last year after facing Baltimore, especially now with Mangold most likely coming back. I tip my hat off to Joe McKnight and Aaron Maybin.

  6. By dougmc on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    O-Line needs help. Hopefully Mangold comes back strong after N.E. game. we need to get running game going this week and Schotty and Sanchez need to be smarter , faster and more efficient from here on in We cannot give up sacks and fumbles all the time. D has issues as well. .McKnight looked good. Wasn’t Baxters fault at center. Cumiulative poor effort and physicallity on both sides of ball. Out played and Out-coached.
    McFadden,Rice and Ravens D are formidable competitors…lets hope we play them again in Playoffs and end them.

  7. By tommy ohio on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    ive worn my jets swag for years through thick and thin more thin than thick ,but you cant talk the talk and not walk the walk ….Il will always be a jets fan forever and I love Rexs bravado …but I personaly dont like to eat crow and brady totaly dismanteled oakland today even tho they got to him a bunch thats the difference between a good QB and a marginal one at best…fyi there is a total beat down coming our way from new england ,much like tonight so dont act surprised when next weeks score is 40 something to 6…wish it wasnt true but it is just sayin !!

  8. By tommy ohio on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    I actually need mediction just so I can go to sleep tonight like all die hard jet fans we wait all week for the game when we win its great when we loose its tuff to deal with but when you play like that its not acceptable…somebody do something please…..

  9. By sal on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    an one more point on depth, the vets they let go, was pretty much your team leaders, and replaced them with token team captains. Hey Rex and Mike its not working, T. Rich, Shaun Ellis, and Jenkins were a big part of the previous seasons success, even hurt Jenkins gave them their defensive identity. I wont even start w/ Shotenheimer, just tired of bashing him, Sanchez needs to learn to play like every game is a playoff game and he will be alright, but he was not groomed like the guy in New England

  10. By tommy ohio on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    38 yards rushing ? Mark 11 for 34 0 for 11 in third ? really?…LOL…would like to thank defence tho for keeping it some what watchable but after the pick six they gave up and quit to …dont blame them

  11. By Christopher on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    This really has to be blamed on Mike T for not addressing the O-line. No depth at all. Doesn’t help that Mark Sanchez isn’t very good and Shotty is calling the plays. No more Faneca and Woody and now the O-line is garbage. Ducasse, Slauson, Hunter hasn’t quite panned out.

    The LB’s, except Harris need to be released and get new speed guys in there. Pace is on pace for his worst year ever. Scott is lost. To think we let J. Abraham and J Vilma off this team.

    We need a safety. Leornard is ok and Smith is ok, but we need a playmaker. Oh wait we had Kerry Rhodes but let him go.

    Time to clean house (start with Mike T and on down, not counting players) and start over. Hire Mike Westhoff as the head coach and bring in all new staff.

  12. By tommy ohio on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    just looked at the rest of the schedule looks like 5 and 11 to me

  13. By Another Tom on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    That stadium sure sounded loud…seems nice to hear a marching band at an NFL game too. The officials were terrible in several games today. I think we must have the worst offense in the league right now..They do look pretty good on paper though

  14. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    What Mr. T and Rex did or rather didn’t do in the face of Mangold’s injury easily makes the list of Top Ten Stupidest Moves in Jets History. I applaud Jane McManus for flat-out stating the obvious, that we shoulda signed a vet C the minute NM got hurt because if we had by now we’d have “sewn him into the lineup.” Instead Mr. T and Rex gave away two important early games for no reason at all that I’ve read or heard. To see us unable to even line up and snap the ball half the time, then start improvising with Slauson and Ducasse brought to mind not the Jets but the ’62 Mets. Let’s see some of the Rex-is-God loyalists spin this one, this game looked like he didn’t have a thing in his head or drawn up on the boards to help us win this game.

  15. By Karan on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Please Jets staff, we have been suffering for far too long, please, please fire Brian Schottenheimer, you guys are going to get nowhere with him.

  16. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    And Schotty fans: What’d I just say about the moronic WR screens that he still loves for some bizarre reason? A 73-yd pick-6 on one of those cost us the game, all the more amazingly because on the series before the same play to the other side almost got picked off. What’d I say after Sanchez’s INT vs OAK following Kerley’s return re how MS should be ordered to stay cool after a momentum-shifting D or ST play? What’d I say about us maybe going 7-9/8-8/9-7 given some of these weaknesses? Right now I can see us losing 5 out of the next 6 games and being out of it before Thanksgiving. But of course, an O that scores 3 pts against another D with several starting DBs out CAN’T be blamed on the OC! In any sane universe, Schotty’d be fired this AM.

  17. By art Fishman on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    2 games on the road and 2 losses. Rex says he has no clue except the other team outplayed the Jets.
    ISN’T TIME TO GO BACK TO POUND THE FOOTBALL? iF sHONN gREENE CANNOT get more than 2 or 3 yards, maybe we go back to LT and use Shonn as the 2nd or 3rd RB.
    There is no excuse for the Offensive Line. Baxter should be released and a quality backup for Mangold is a must.
    Ducasse should be gone, he is not up to NFL standards, we made a mistake in keeping him.
    Mark Sanchez is a better quarterback, but he needs to have a substantial running option.
    Maybe, rex, when Mark is struggling, you should go to Brunell. Also it is necessary to have more adaptions on the game plan in the second half.
    I think these 2 games were coaching losses.

  18. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    And just for the record, patient, rational, level-headed Jet fans, McKnight has 4 kickoff returns for 212 yds, a 53-yd average, with 1 TD, the longest kickoff return in Jet history. That’s the dude that we shoulda cut last August.

  19. By jetfan1 on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    wow what a game! Is it me? Am I just a homer? or are the Jets past two years even more impressive when you factor in the fact that we DO NOT GET THE CALLS!

  20. By jetfan1 on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    First play on offense MS gets hit in the hand after a pump fake But while his hand was moving forward, Then on another excellent example MS gets hit again while his arm was coming forward, admottedly this one was closer, but factor in the fact that the defender hit MS helmet first, I do believe that after the replay it should have been overturned, add in the two times our punter was hit after the punt … WOW

  21. By Christopher on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Can we just move ahead to the superbowl so I can see the Jets win? Should we just guarantee next year’s suberbowl too?

    Way to go Maybin!!! good for you, and McKnight love the speed.

    New England next….Can’t Wait

  22. By Ray on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Wow, could that have been any more painful to watch? By the end of the first qtr I wasn’t wondering if we would lose, just by how much. I thought we should have just knelt down three times and punted….our D was our best O tonight. The only thing as bad as watching our offense was watching theirs (after the 1st qtr…) Flacco stinks and gave his best effort to keep us in the game. Alas, we stunk more… who are the best O Linemen in the next draft?

  23. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Viveca, I agree with everything in your post especially your point that the O line didn’t even look that good when Mangold was playing, so we got a real problem. Interesting to hear about Rex talking to Sanchez in the locker room, MS sounding shell-shocked but also indirectly calling out the O line, Holmes calling out both the O line and MS, and Revis saying that there isn’t much “excitement” in the locker room now. I’m not upset by this ’cause I think the Jets, and some folks who cover them and some of their fans, are in the grip of denial. We didn’t draft for some of our needs, we have an OC who’s inept, and a HC who seems to know less about O than some of our fans. This team’s in trouble and that’s why I’d welcome some real changes soon.

  24. By no one listens to Blinka on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Maybe now someone will listen to me?

    There is a serious lack of talent up front. That game was like a College team vs NFL teaml.
    And don’t rationalize by thinking that Mangold would have made a difference, he would not.
    Again the team is falling apart and we have woeful draft picks like Ducass to fill in.

    Eh, but whi care what I think, no one sells my jersey

  25. By Row on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Where is Kellen Clemens? Where is Powell? If every throw wasn’t so telegraphed, I’d say work the RB screen and every slant in the book. Ravens were throwing the kitchen sink at Sanchez. Which means he should have found the open man with a read. But he is clueless, emotionless, and unable to throw to a WR running a route. The offense dictates the defensive plays. I’d like to see how many snaps the defense has had to endure.. Can’t say I didn’t expect this, but a pass first, run allowing team is exactly the formula to get a coach fired.. Again, no safety play and a soft defense.. Go Jets

  26. By Kondor on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    I said it last week the OL will get Sanchez kllled; the LB and overall defensive speed is doesn’t exist; WR are old and slow and Shot is as predictable as cheap toilet paper. Tannenbum nad Ryna have got to stop chasing free agents and draft draft draft talent. If you look at the Ravens it’s all about drafting with them. They have super talent on defense. The JETS have been exposed as old and overrated this year. They better start “coaching” and stop yapping. Time to see what they’re truly made of. I don’t give this team better than 8-8, maybe worse if Sanchez sooner or later isn’t slaughtered by their lack of talent and depth in this year’s OL. Hate to say it don’t want to say it but SOJ so far after four games.

  27. By Kondor on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Sanchez also better find a way to mature and fast. He looks like a lil brat, and nothig like a serious NFL QB….just saying……

  28. By JohnnyC on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    No offense can operate with out a good offense line. Look at the Steelers they have OL problems and they cant run the ball and Big Ben has been fumbling and throwing interceptions. Even before Mangold was hurt this line couldn’t block. Slauson and Hunter are backups at best. Jets should have gotten some veteran OL . Why didnt we look into Gurode when the Cowboys released them or Sean O’hara? They at least have experience. All summer Ryan was gushing over this line saying how good it was. Really?!

  29. By no one listens to Blinka on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    No one cares, but here are my further thoughts.

    Last year power formation included Hunter and T. Rich. Who are they using this year? Conner and who else? Maybe Conner can’t do the job. It’s not a question of can he block, it’s a question of does he know who to block. And not to pile on the poor kid, but they don’t even use Ducasse in the power formation.
    When you gamble a 2nd round pick on a kid from a small program, you better know what your doing. Damn, it’s going to be a long time until next season.

    Eh, who cares what I think, no one sells my Jersey,
    #54

  30. By Pranit on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Sanchez pointing fingers at the post game presser…Shame on you man…Shut up and take it on the chin…you make $20 Mill annually…This way you have just lost the respect of your teammates..way to go !! We don’t have a backup or else Rex might have turned Sanchize into bench’ize…

    Rex, enough with the brash task and guarantees..you are making a laughing stock of yourself and the jets…Chin up and play football…like the Ravens just did to you…If you are going to let Schotty stay at OC, then please explain what you are expecting from the offense..disaster!

  31. By no one listens to Blinka on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    And again until some one listens to me:

    On Defese they have one player that teams must account for, Revis.
    They need another in the front seven.

    Oh, and where is Ellis? Third round pic no? Folks we have a HUGE front office issue.

  32. By Tom Spicer on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    MR.T gambled & lost big time he did not resign Woody & thought he could just sign Hunter on the cheap. Well it is blowing up in your face now cause Hunter is terrible & Duccasse I can already say without a doubt the guy is a BUST. Once we lost Turner he should have signed a o lineman right away. When Cumberland went down & they put Turner on the IR I said they need 2 take those 2 spots & sign 2 O linemane right away. I guess MR.T didnt think that it was a priority.

  33. By Tom Spicer on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    The Jets keep talking about getting a home playoff game well they would have 2 go 10 & 2 the rest of the way to make that happen & right now with the way they are playing I do not see that happening.

  34. By Gerald McCleery on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Disgraceful performance. The on field mistakes are one thing, but how about looking a bit deeper at the always predictable offensive schemes. This team doesn’t have the physical skills to dominate at will so there needs to be some adjustment in the offensive play calling I hope this is Shotty’s last rodeo.

  35. By Chicago Bob on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Let’s be realistic, this is not a Super Bowl caliber team – way too many holes. Both Slausen and Hunter are backups on the OL and the same can be said for Pouha and Devito on the DL – both of these guys give a great effort however neither one of them creates any kind of push – every pass play you watch, both of them are stuck right on the line and go nowhere. Drafting Wilkerson was the right thing – the Jets REALLY need for Ellis to develop into a quality NT. It was interesting to see the Ravens had two castoffs (Gurode and McKinnie) starting on their OL and we still could not pressure the QB. Fortunately when the draft comes up next year, we have the option of taking a G or an OT as both are desperately needed.

  36. By Gary on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Tom Moore needs to coach this offense. The Jets are lucky that New England is not as good as they were last year. But are the Jets as good as they were last year? We’ll have to see

  37. By JS on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Time to take the ball out of Sanchez’ hands. He is playing like a rookie again. Go back to ground and pound. OK, so if his back is to the left side BACKPEDDLE like Joe Willie used to do – see the whole field. Why wasn’t the shotgun used more? To defeat the ravens d-line I would have pitched out or used quick hitting run plays or short passes. How about bring D-Woodie back? This o-line is a mess right now – they’re not going anywhere.

  38. By ArtSoCal on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    At last Wed’s press conference, Sanchez stated the need of quickly getting rid of the ball under pressure. That didn’t sound like the optimum recipe for success to me. I immediately envisioned a lot of short pass incompletions because of receivers who would not be ready. Brunell should’ve played the 2Nd half for comparison sake. If he had had the same results, we’d know the O strategy had some major responsibility for this loss.

  39. By Dino on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    I’ve been a Jets fan since I can remember, and more often than not I say to myself ” why do you do it.?! why torture yourself every year?!” just cant give it up. they’ll have another big game and sucker you back into believing again…and then inevitably rip your heart out again. Shotty has to go. I also think Joe Namath was right. remember that flexall commercial “I just might ask for my old job back.” come back Joe, and bring snell with you!

  40. By Dino on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    shotty has to go. how many times does your qb have to get blindsided before you make an adjustment. keep a back in like conner. Namath had a great line but even with this one that never would have happened like last night. against oakland it was the defense, last night it was the offense. how about making westoff the offensive and defensive coordinator and play the special teams unit both ways like in the 1940s?! i only have one more comment….aarrrgghhhh!!!!!!!!!

  41. By JohnS on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    I think this was the worst offenseive performance since rex has taken over. He needs to shut his mouth and fix his team. Get an O-line that can protect MS. He is a very good quaterback but cant do it with no protection. No qb can. But i think we will fix these problems and move on. But schotenheimer should be fired ive said it for a long time. He is just horrible and needs to go.

  42. By Karan on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    We don’t have a running identity because of no O-line depth. I think Slauson does a good job, not sure why people don’t support him too often. However, Hunter is playing horrible and I don’t understand why they put it Ducasse at all, he almost got Sanchez killed again and was responsible for the HalotI Ngata fumble. As a rookie, I thought Colin Baxter held his own, yes he didn’t snap the ball right once or twice, but you can’t blame the kid, he was just put in there. It also hurts us that Rob Turners been put on IR, and wait, who was the reason that Turner was injured in the first place?? Vlad Ducasse! of course it was, just give up on Ducasse T, admit it you messed up by drafting him, and for gods sake, please pick up O’Hara or Seubert.

  43. By IRA on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    I was amazed that they hung in there and could have made it interesting late 3rd until that pick. Not much to say just get me to 4-3 and re-group at the bye week. Last night was very scary and similar to that 96 opener in Denver when they moved around R. Duffy and that OL gave up SO many sacks.

  44. By GaryC on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    jet fan tom, even pete carroll did not play mcknight at cornerback at USC.that only speaks of lack of depth on team, like last year when jets played turner at defensive tackle in goal line situations.rex better be careful if he keeps blitzing mcknight on defense,one of these teams will pick him up with a 300 pound tackle.

  45. By George Mar on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Relax Jet Fans we have been through worse. The line was having problems from the beginning trying to jell with turner and now Mangold is hurt. It is not Greens fault. The line cannot puncany holes for him. As for sanchez, yes he has to be more accurate and make smarter decisions, but without a line any quarterback would have problems. I blame a lot on Shotty. His plays are too predictable and teams know exactly when we are going to throw and run and where we are running too.We are missing TRich Badly, he kept the offense togeather and led the running game. We are 2and2 and we will get better this is the hardest part of our season. The patriots season will get harder too. It is a long season and Big Rex will get things going. Trust him.

  46. By TexasJetsfan on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    I have only one word for these insane total failures… Schottenheimer.

  47. By Christopher on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    2 Weeks in a row, a big play sets us up within FG range and on 1st down Mark throws a pick. Maybe next time just call the kneel down play and kick the FG, would have at least been a better result.

    Mark’s comments after the game look like he had to try hard to take the blame, but couldn’t resist calling out the O-line and playcalling. Can’t blame him though, but bottom line is Mark needs to step up and eliminate turnovers.

    Rex looked like he was crying, again. I like Rex, but when you talk it up so much, when their is an epic failure, like this year, someone needs to take the blame and it starts with Mike T and Rex. If I was Woody, I would put their jobs on the line with next week.

  48. By NC on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    This loss and last week’s are directly the fault of the front office for not getting an experienced center as soon as Mangold got hurt. Throwing an inexperienced kid like Baxter to the wolves was insane.

  49. By Christopher on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    In games past, you never saw this team quit, kept trying to pull it out. Last night, the team quit. Before the Pick 6, the D was still trying, After the Pick 6, the entire team quit. Rex is about to lose that locker room to a bunch of finger pointing.

  50. By Frank on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Sanchez is a complete and utter disaster period end of story. After playing the first tough defense of the season and at the 1/4 mark…no pun intended…he is ranked at the bottom of the pile yet again. He started the game with that “deer in the headlights” look. Sanchez played scared all night it was embarrassing!
    I suggested we sign Gurode as soon as the Cowboys released him he played great for the Ravens last night.
    Making Baxter the “scapegoat” was a joke the ball hit Sanchez right in the hands both times.
    Why is Ducasse even on the roster?
    That is what a defense with speed looks like anyone see the difference?
    Maybin a strip sack and almost another and did well on special teams. Great job kid! Defense played well enough to win.

  51. By Daniel Grosky on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    The JETS offensive line is built for running game by it’s inabillity to pass block.This is becuse ther are easily confused by any coach who has a good sceme to expose their lack of speed and bad foot work as well as their inablilty getting good leverage to hold their ground or fire out on the running gameI .
    JET fan back to theTtitan days.Stats mean nothing when get beat in the trenches.They have drafed poorly ithe offensive and defensive line.

  52. By SackExchange99 on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    I’m paying how much for a PSL to watch this? My son’s high school team looked more prepared this weekend.

  53. By Christopher on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Thank You Mike T and Rex, for bringing me back to 2007. Remember what happened last time we had a crappy O-line.

    Blinka, you hit the nail on the head “Folks we have a HUGE front office issue.”

  54. By Christopher on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    At least there are some good O lineman coming out of Nebraska this year. If we play bad enough we might be able to get one.

  55. By Frank on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Very telling that Holmes said Sanchez needs to do a better job making the reads. Geee Wizzzz what have I been saying for years….Shotty is not throwing the ball or fumbling it for that matter! Sanchez DOES NOT make the players better around him he is not a Franchise QB not an elite QB he is what he is a bottom feeder just like his ranks since he started!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  56. By Tom Spicer on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    My first post did not make the board so I am reposting this. The O line is GARBAGE Wayne Hunter is a backup at best. Slauson is okay & Brandon Moore I think is still hurting from his hip surgery because he does not look like himself. I can not stress how much they miss Mangold. I do not care if Brady was our QB & McFadden was our RB behind that line nobody is doing anything. Greene & LT are hit the second they touch the ball or at best after 2 yards. There are NO HOLES to run thru. The QB everytime he drops back he is under instant pressure. He is getting CRUSHED every game MULTIPLE times a game. Mark will not make it thru the season like this. Look at Brady & Rodgers these guys have good O lines they go whole games without getting hit.

  57. By Frank on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Ira even with all the problems with the O-Line last night Sanchez was sacked TWICE what are you talking about Denver 96 and all the sacks?????????? He missed some wide open receivers last night. When a team blitzes as much as the Ravens did someone is going to be open!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  58. By Tom Spicer on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    The Jets miss Braylon & Cothcery they have no one to strecth the field Plax at 34 & Mason at 37. No longer have the speed to get it done. The o line is not pass blocking & the DB’S stay up in Plax & Mason’s face cause they know they do not have the speed to beat them deep. Plax & Mason are not going 2 get any faster so unless the o line gets better really quick it is going to a long year.

  59. By Connor on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    I went down to Baltimore for this game and was very dissapointed with the play of the offense. The run game is irrelevent and without that is is even harder to throw the ball. The amount of three and outs last night was frightening. The D was on the field 3/4ths of the game and where worn down going into the fourth as usual. Even with fatigue the defense played very well and I honestly have no concern with their play. Having an offense run a wedge for the entire fourth quarter is hard to stop when you are fatigued. The concerning part for me was that the defense only gave up 13 points and scored 7 along with 10 from ST. The offense really needs to pick it up especialy Sanchez it his 3rd year and he still can’t avoid giving the ball away.

  60. By TONY GARCIA on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    THE jets o-line and d-line were outclassed,slow and not athletic we have neglected o-line last three drafts its bitting us now.I’ve said to many times this year we take a step back.Draft will help no more free agents.9-7 or 8-8 will be a good season with team we have.jet fan since 1969

  61. By viveca on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    i hope i’m wrong, but maybe the Ravens knew something when they didn’t make Rex head coach…he has a great defensive mind but doesn’t seem to have a clue about offense. There is blame ot go around everywhere.
    Mr. T who ignored adressing obvious weaknesses on the o-line. Sanchez who has not progressed and acts immature and scared. The inept O-line, Schottenheimer who keeps calling the same predictable plays. The D.looked good on first and second downs, but repeatedly caved on third and long. Better face the music-this is not a championship team! To turn this around would take a miracle. We almost gave up on Maybin, the only one who has passrush moves. For what? To add another mediocre db to the roster?

  62. By ddh on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    I am a life long jet fan always have been always will be, last night didn’t faze me in the least. I don’t blame Mark at all, well maybe just a little, but the man had absolutely no time, even on hand offs Ravens were in the backfield, I think for too long Jets mgmt has not placed enough emphasis on the “O” line, the Raiders out sized them, the Ravens controlled the line of scrimmage from the start, eliminate the def points and the score changes dramatically, we dont need anymore CB,WR,RB,or TE’s , what we need is a fortress from which, the “O” can sling its arrows and drive its spears, and protect Mark, he cant execute an offense while on the run.

  63. By Another Tom on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    I hope that Bryan Thomas’s injury is not too serious, He is an experienced contributor… I wonder what Kevin Mawae is doing these days?

  64. By Steve on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    I’ve been a Jet fan from their inception, and have to say this was one of the most painful games to watch in their history… Again, the Jets had the opportunity to come out at the half and gain some momentum with a score, which would have put them right in it, but again they went three and out… The defense played well, and I don’t agree that they gave up as some have said. It was obvious that they were tired as the Ravens OlL was pushing them all over the field once they started running the ball. If the OL continues to play as they have, MS is not going to last the season. If any more starters get hurt on either side of the ball, the Jets are in for a long season due to lack of depth. Play calling was horrible…

  65. By Jet Blue on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Sanchez looks like he has fear in his eyes, and not fire. he doesn’t throw to his wide recivers because he doesn’t know how to read a defense to determin who will be open. He panics. Tired of watching this team self-destruct every week. Rex needs to coach this team, prepare them for their next opponent, and forget about his predictions. Joe Willie was right. Rex spends too much time boasting aout his team and not enough time preparing them for a battle. They shouild be 1-3 but Romo pulled a Sanchez and gave it away. Offense is horrible. Three Pro-Bowl receivers and none are ever open? seems to me that these things get

  66. By no one listens to Blinka on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    By the way, it’s a testimonial to stupidity to blame Shotty for this. So please, a little IQ here please.

  67. By Craig on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    I am not ready to give up on Sanchez just yet. If he can’t get the ball downfield then he is the problem but I think Schotty needs more plays to Holmes and Buress down the field. Enough of the 5 & 10 yard passes the opposing teams defense is crowding the line of scrimmage.

    If Schottenheimer can’t make adjustments to throw the ball down the field and start picking up 15 to 25 yard chunks of real estate, than by all means somebody please plant a for sale sign in his front yard.

  68. By nyjetsholdupsbtrophyin2012 on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    pro-bowl cast offs from other teams ,Mckinnie and Gurode BIrk …how come we werent in any negotiations with these guys ,our talent on the edges is being wasted like bad buffet food, and to not expect there D to get after us and really have no plan for it examp. max protections , rolling mark out…some trickery like a flee flicker that neutrlizes over agressive D’s ,having Mark check off when he sees an overload coming from one side & go away from it.JUST not prepared…REX better start thinking about making a change at OC ,he’s going to wake up on day soon and find out its his tail on the firing line because he wants to be loyal instead of HC!!!!! Elite teams dont play like this..just cause D is good and SP.T’s are good ,our O is AWFUL

  69. By STAYLOADED on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    I agree with the deer in the head lights, There was a close up of him before they got to the line and it showed. and then it happened REED!! Thanks Maybin great strip sack. I thought the game was going to turn around BUT, WAIT FOR IT!!! INTERCEPTION. The Jets had them going there for a moment on one of their drives down field, then they slowed down, no hurry up. The Raven would have had to regroup, that would have help greatly at that point. But I agree something has to change, starting with the OC. and the OL. Baxter held his own not all his fault. Defense played well but for how long could they last. REX, Wake up and take control of the Offense.

  70. By nyjetsholdupsbtrophyin2012 on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    I agree Frank , Baxter was getting the blame and its not like Mark was under pressure every throw , he is so unaccurate and get Shell shocked to the point he cant recover and the fact this team has NO ONE to back him up is just a shame on many levels…so what I guess front and coaches take on that is if Mark were to get hurt we’ll just pack it in and try again next year..I wish they would go sign Garrard give ,let him prepare and then watch how differently efficient our O would be and Garrard is an average Qb for the most part ,Fitzpatrick at Buff. had no line to speak of (WORST IN NFL) in 09, 10, and still managed for the most part to put points on the board,so the Marks line is the prob. is NO EXCUSE last night he’s like kid out there

  71. By mikeincolorado on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Bring back Big Wood

  72. By Karan on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Sanchez is a good QB, he’ll rebound, so can some of please stop considering that he should he benched? That’s ridiculous. He had a bad game. So what? Who doesn’t every now and then? Joe Flacco played just as bad and I do admit Sanchez needs to be more consistent but it’s not his fault we lost. We lost because of Schottenheimer’s disgusting playcalling and the depth at O-line. Woody Johnson’s afraid to take money out of his pocket, that’s why we haven’t signed any veteran lineman. Use that green, woody, use it and it shall benefit you.

  73. By Allan O'Dane on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Memo to Jets: Sign Garrard because Sanchez is going to get killed out there with this O-line. I thought the Raiders game was bad..but this..21 points from turnovers..I am no Albert Einstein but why didn’t shotty call more shotgun plays or the hurry up offense?..Clearly the OC has no faith in his running game. Once to be our biggest strength is now our greatest weakness..The O-Line. Where’s Alan Fanaca when you need him?..Hey D-Woody could you at least think about it?…It’s going to be a LOOONNNNNGGGGG season……………sighhhhhhhh

  74. By Tom Spicer on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Randy, I would like to know why two of my posts about the O line have not been posted. I did not curse or say anything that any of these other guys do not say thanks tom spicer

  75. By Randy Lange on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Tom, your second OL comment was not posted in error. It is now live.

  76. By whyamIaJetsfan on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    The O-line is not the only problem. Sanchez is not a good quarterback. Now that we are passing more, it’s obvious. He stares down his receivers, he’s inaccurate, he has no vision, no touch, can’t read defenses, should I keep going? He has more in common with Matt Leinart than just going to USC. Throw in the horrible schemes of Shotty and you have a recipe for losing. But in true Jet fashion, we will continue down this spiral until we lose all of our good players and start from scratch. I hate to say it, but we missed our window of opportunity with this team.

  77. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    viveca, I hope you’re wrong too but there’s a lot to chew on in what you say. Obviously everyone wants a smashmouth D but what’s strange is instead of drafting more for D since Rex’s 1st yr, we made some strange picks, taking Powell and the other McKnight instead of an OL guy, LB or S, for instance. By the 2nd yr it was clear that Rex has little input on O, few ideas, and this leaves him to trust Schotty. Whatever the politics behind that, Schotty’s a disaster no matter how you slice it — pts scored, players developed, red zone, big games won or lost on his watch. Blinka, players have to execute but the OC has to know how to maximize their skills. In today’s NFL, a HC who talks like Nagurski and Jim Brown are still playing isn’t enough.

  78. By Jason on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Brian Schottenheimer thanks for all of your hard work, but the Jets really need to go in a different direction on offense, that direction is down the field – instead of the other way. Its almost like you are experimenting with your playbook saying “lets see what this play does.” You put Sanchez in unfair situations (3rd and long) and then call an underneath play and it either falls a yard short or gets picked. Jets staff will say firing the OC will hurt the team, Sanchez will have to learn a new playbook… GOOD, this playbook is stunting his growth. It’s true – throw in 5 wide sets and you have noone back to pick up the blitz, but if you use it in the right situation and use shotgun plays IN THE RIGHT SITUATION IT WILL WORK. Help us MOORE!

  79. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    GaryC, the play with McKnight at CB was obviously a gimmick, done to make something happen and it did. What impressed me is that McKnight had the desire and athleticism to do the job on that play, but that doesn’t mean he’s the answer on D any more than the Wildcat is the answer on O. Chicago Bob, I agree with you about Ellis but as I’ve been saying the Jets have a history of going slowly or not at all with their draft picks. I don’t see how using Ellis here and there and getting him into the mix could possibly hurt, as I said last wk to Arte we’re getting blown out at the line of scrimmage on both O and D, which after all is where the game begins and ends. GaryC, I’ll admit it might be time to stop drafting from small colleges so much.

  80. By Rich on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    To no one listens to Blinka: I don’t like to disagree with your post, but if you are going to make a comment like please a little IQ here and insult the fans there are a few things you should know.. Yes Schotty had a big part of that loss. It all starts with Schotty from play calling down to some type of identity. Schotty runs a very vanilla O. His game plans are always the same and does not know how to make adjutments. Last night was another great example. How many times did Schotty try and run up the gut aginst the ravens. Are u kidding me run up the middle against the RAVENS. Yes MS had a big part in the loss as well, but it’s time for change. Rex needs to make a statement and let Schotty go. It time to be a coach Rex!!!!

  81. By Tom Spicer on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    It does not matter Brady could be our QB & McFadden could be our RB with this O line the way it is blocking it would not matter. There are no holes to run thru & the QB gets blasted everytime he drops back. 2 & 3 years ago I remember Thomas Jones (who was not fast) running thru holes where he would be 10 yards down the field before anyone was near him. Now you get 2 yards & you get hit. I dont blame Mark or the RBS there is no BLOCKING!

  82. By GaryC on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    I am glad the kool aid drinkers have disappeared,rex and tanny are the greatest is what we heard,they were superior to others bringing in Plastico and Stone Mason,the methusalah defense led by Bart, ” totem pole” Scott.will not get better,majority are 30 and above,the skills diminish,don’t get better.Clinkscales,head of scouting is another who needs to go along with shotty.Ellis still hasn’t seen field,I got that right when I said no superstars are coming out of the MEAC CONFERENCE.Soon we will be asking how many picks we have, what are we getting for Lowery and what are we giving up for Schladeraff,Knowing the jets I bet we are on the short end of this exchange.

  83. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    By the way, holdsuptrophy, I’m actually glad McElroy is on IR. He’d just get injured in a yr like this, better to give him a longer look after having an even longer off-season in which to think about the mess we’ve made of the OL by way of not anticipating injuries. Speaking of deer in the headlights, that’s the perfect description of how Rex looked last night after the game. If he has any idea of what to do about the several big problems we have at the moment, he sure doesn’t sound like it, just more blather about “give them credit,” “we’ll get it fixed,” etc. There’s no “it” to get fixed, there’s a bunch of problems relating to personnel and coaching. NOW to 2012 is when you’ll see what kind of HC Rex really is, same for Sanchez at QB.

  84. By ddh on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    hey Blink , how can you not throw some blame on shotty?
    the OL is in a major state of dysfunction, lack of personal in both depth and ability, and simply put, they dont know who to block !, the edges were wide open. Mgmt is the first to be blamed, they have fielded an incomplete team, just what were they focusing on? this seems to be beyond a preparation problem, the team is not built to execute this offensive scheme any longer, you’ve either let go or traded away too much, and turned a pretty good offense into a hope and a prayer, this is not the same team, dont expect the same results.

  85. By no one listens to Blinka on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Rich and others,

    Your not privy to the calls. You don’t know. There is a lot of airchair quarterbacking going on here.
    If Shotty had a hand in the decision of OLine personel then he can be blamed for that.
    the issue is that we have poor talent on both lines.

  86. By JetZilla on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    I am not ready to give up on the season just yet, but if we lose to the Patriots It will be difficult to make the playoffs. Rex needs to be told some home truths: 1. The Jets are not a Super Bowl caliber team. 2. This is our worst roster since 2007. 3. Our O-line, apart from D-Brick, Mangold & Moore needs overhauling in a hurry. 4. Wayne Hunter & Slauson are backups not starters. Cut Ducasse, he doesn’t belong in NFL. 5. Brian Schottenheimer must go now. 6. Our front 7 on ‘D’ is slow and old, Bart, Calvin & Thomas need to go, Start Ellis, Mauga, Maybin & Bellore we can’t do any worst and we need an injection of youth. 7. E. Smith is a slow footed backup Safety, start Pool. 8. Rex your defensive scheme is stale needs a facelift ASAP.

  87. By Tom Spicer on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Randy, I looked in the box score & it does not show it but as far 1 QB pressures 2 hits on the QB 3 or times the QB was hurried. Can you produce these stats? I know they keep them I would be will to bet Mark was hurried or pressured over 10 times & hit at least 7. Chris Collinsworth & Al Micheals even said it they were like the Jet O line play is really bad.

  88. By Randy Lange on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Tom, the defensive numbers compiled by the Baltimore play-by-play crew shows two sacks and 10 QB hits of Mark Sanchez by the Ravens. The NFL does not keep hurries/pressures, officially or unofficially.

  89. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Couldn’t have put it better, ddh, except to add that since Schotty was a weak OC with last yr’s O, he’s not likely to be a good OC with this one.

  90. By Tom Spicer on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Flacco 10 for 31, 163 yards, 32%, 2 sacks, 0 tds, 1 pick (returned for a TD just like Marks) & 37 rating. Mark 11 for 35, 119 yards, 31%, 2 sacks, 0 tds, 1 pick. Terrible numbers for both QBS but hear is the difference the Ravens rushed for 115 yards the Jets a WHOPPING 38. It all comes down to the O line!

  91. By Tim on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    *******(SANCHEZ is between a AVERAGE and VERY GOOD QB. SANCHEZ is NOT the type of QB that you can say JUST throw the ball, with NO RUN game.

    This is why I always say OFFENSE is ALL about (BLOCKING, BLOCKING BLOCKING)!!! If you cannot (BLOCK) on offense it will NOT matter how good your QB or running back is!!!

    And NO one ask for (INJURES) on the OL, but it happens and you have to find a way to DEAL with it!)**************************

  92. By JetZilla on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    I hope the Jets get slaughtered next week at NE. This will force Woody Johnson to take Mike T. and Rex to task over the state of the team. Mike you need to fix the O-line and get a Rush OLB and a cover Safety ASAP. Rex you need to fire Schottenheimer and replace him with Callahan for now. The team needs shaking up. Also, Rex KEEP YOUR BIG MOUTH SHUT with your stupid predicitions and overhyping mediocre players. Lastly, Mark Sanchez may not be the answer at QB. I saw fear in his eyes during the pregame, but that probably had more to do with our porous O-line protecting him. What has happened to the team that went to two consecutive AFC Championship Games? Rex is in denial about our roster, its terrible except Special Teams.

  93. By DGC on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    1) Shotty needs to be fired…today 2) O Line coach needs to join him
    3) Sanchez can’t play scared 4) He’s scared alot…look at his numbers
    5) D needs to play wide open…once Flaco was on the move he became
    ineffective…Brady has the same problem…HE MUST BE PRESSURED !
    6) Where are the studs on offense ? Someone needs to step up
    7) Sanchez is no leader…he’s too short…too many passes knocked down
    What if he is not the guy ? Then where are we ? 8) SG what happened ?
    9) LT has his moments but rarely from scrimage 10) Rex take action..quietly

  94. By nyjetsholdupsbtrophyin2012 on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    How about Rex’s reunion party out on the field when it was over, if I were Rex I would of told his old players as they hugged and chatted and posed for Pics..etc.etc.. NOT NOW AND WALKED AWAY ,once again ,way too much praise from him about his formal team..But you can see it in his eyes and hear it in his voice that he knows this years team is a shell of its self from last year and he knows we are going NOWHERE!!!

  95. By IRA on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Frank, It was the heat and all the hits he took more than sacks. He got beat to a bulp last night early and it affected his play. He was getting rid of the ball earlier than he should because he knew he was going to hit. I still say lets get to 4-3 and see what happens.

  96. By Another Tom on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    The O Line is a Train wreck..Is Callahan under fire? Vlad is starting to resemble Gholston..We do have D line depth and Ellis is more of a project than an impact pass rusher at this point..which is why I think He s not active . I like Wilkerson ‘s potential for sure, but I wish He was wearing #99..This week is our superbowl and We will show up and compete!! I will ALWAYS wear my JETS gear

  97. By davetharave on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Back to Square One.

  98. By THUNDER LIPS on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Look around the league and how many 6 foot Qbs are there out there that are good … 1 maybe 2. and if they are good they got a good O line. I don’t think Snachez can see down field. and when he is trying to look down field he gives away the farm. how many tipped or blocked passes this year, and in in his career.

    Front office had a terrible offseason.

  99. By Gustavo on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    People cant blame Mark Sanchez for the loss. Yes he had a bad game and so did Flaco and he has being in the NFL longer than Sanchez. Rex needs to fix the O-line and fix the D-line.

  100. By bill on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    FIRE BRIAN SCHOTTENHEIMER NOW. Not tomorrow, not next week, or next season. But right now. Period.

    ps The officials are stunningly bad this season. Not just in Jets games, but everywhere. It’s like they’re watching a different game.

  101. By Jimmer on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Too much to respond to.
    You can’t blame shotty, for shoddy depth on the OL. Montana and Johnny U would become cripples behind this line. Even Rothlisberger might be on IR by now.
    Most of us begged for depth on the OL in preseason. Obviously, someone knows better than us. Having a undrafted rookie center take on the best there is, spells disaster. Which is what we’ve seen. If you don’t have time to get it to those great playmakers, why spend money on playmakers who will never get the ball?
    Please make a call to D-Wood.

  102. By SheaKid on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    I believe most of the blame for the o’s struggle this year falls on Mr.T. Up until this year he’s done a pretty good job and $ is always a consideration. But I said at the time it was a big mistake to let go Woody, Edwards, and JCo. Burris and Mason look ancient out there and Sanchez has no chem w/them yet (if ever). Most egregiously, how on earth is our b/u C an undrafted rookie who wasnt even in our camp???. Didnt even keep one on the practice squad?? I thought this organization understood that the O-line is the most important unit on the team.

  103. By 38 year fan on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    That war was lost before the game ever got started ..That was a hot mess …I haven’t seen The Jets looking this bad since Kotite was coach and Boomer was fumbling …. I think we need a complete change in direction in our offense …Starting with the coaching

  104. By GaryC on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Look what Gailey has done with fitzpatrick,sanchez needs a mentor,not someone who is close to being his peer,like shotty.this is what we get for beating marty in the playoffs,his offspring.

  105. By Another Tom on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    I wonder if Rex brought the wrong Baltimore LB with Him…No one wanted Ray Lewis 3 years ago. I’m not a fan of Lewis, but He is still a monster. I think Braylon only has a one year deal-lets get him back. Our off season was dreadful and it shows, I hope its a lesson learned..Thomas is out for the year.We will miss Him- solid guy who just does his job

  106. By GaryC on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    just to add on to my previous post, you thought shotty would have learned something under spurrier when he was at florida,then again,maybe not, he couldn’t beat out danny wuerful.

  107. By AYOshow on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    I have to admit it ‘s hard to watch Ladainian Tomlinson only being used on 3rd and Long. The dude rips apart oakland for over 100 yards receiving and 150 all purpose yards and you use him as a pass blocker 90% of the time. I get the JETS have named Greene the next coming of JESUS who’s going to cure the blind and walk on water but…

    IN MY OPINION LT creates more miss matches then anyone on the team, and when he’s on the field defenses have to account for him.

    GET OFF OF Schottenheimers back. If Sanchez could complete a pass… Its like Schotty is told to make a fire using wood and a match. Sanchez is the box of matches left out in the rain. I’m not saying Schotty is some amazing offensive guru, but the QB has to make a play.

  108. By sal1 on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Wow. wut a game. I’ll just agree with all my other fellow Jets fans. I dont know y were still begging rex to fire Schotty, that should have been done last year. O- line would be better with me and my friends out there protecting Mark. Someone needs to make Mark laugh before the next game so he wont look so scared. I like Sanchez bt I’d be sacred to behind dat o’line. Defense rebounded well, special teams rules. And someone mentioned making westoff head coach, but maybe oc would better suit him, well just neone other then Schotty. If i could ask for one change b4 the Pats game its that we have a new oc. thank you. A jets fan…

  109. By joe colabelli on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Recent drafts have been horrible .Personall evaluations have been horrible (when was the last time a team won a superbowl with 2 of 3 wr s in their mid 30s and an average qb )

  110. By Jack on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    You all getting on Schottenheimer again you can’t blame it all on him its the offensive line that having a problem. I even seen that in the pre-season that the Jets line was having a problem The blame should go on Bill Callahan the offensive line Coach. plus losing Woody Damien sure would hurt the line went he retired and Bradon Moore wasn’t he injured I did see him playing and of cause Nick Mangold was out for 2 games. if anyone should get the blame its surly should Tannenbaum and Rex Ryan for NOT getting a replacing for Woody Damien in the off season. So I hope that Callahan can fix this and get the right players in there that will do the best job so that Mark Sanchez doesn’t have a short career. MORE OF Joe McKnight & John Conner

  111. By Rich on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Gary c.. WELL SAID look what Gailey did with buffalo.. Sometime change is good.

  112. By ravensson on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    im a ravens fan and all i have to say bout this game is that the Jets just played a better team, you can blame all your players and coaches but the bottom line is the Ravens were at home in prime time, i dont think even Green Bay woulda beat us.

  113. By Rich on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    To AYOshow: You say why did we not use LT last night.. I agree 100 percent with you. Then you say get off Schotty’s back.. It was his call not to use LT.. His game plan was to pound it up the middle with greene BAD idea. You figured at halftime he would make adjustments, but as Schotty’s done since he as been here is stick to the game plan. Yes are O line is weak, but can improve. Schotty’s been here way too long an as shown he can’t improve.
    TIME AS COME TO END SCHOTTY BALL.

  114. By sal on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    I got a back up Favre! seriously, alot went int Cromarte, Burris, and Holmes, could of got Moss or Owens cheap, and should think about it if they want to throw, cause with sanchez the taller the better unless yout talking post season. He is inching closer to the Romo category…Mark Romo..another guy with talent but too many distractions, ego, not being groomed well, ego will be the undoing of both. The offence played scared, why? the line with plug ins had to pass protect against a crazy defense.
    I didnt realize how many changes for Jets. Depth is what worries me!
    They will play better against the Pats, Revis gots Toms number. Cro just gots to hold his own! Green will run better too!! Thomas done for year! Depth!!

  115. By sal on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Maybe Gholston can help out!

  116. By SCfromNY on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Actually had chest pains watching the game. Why isn’t Mcknight being tried in the regular offense? I could predict the plays. Of the few completions most were from the gun. What happened to the “hurry up” and “no Huddle”? The offense stood around so long the Ravens were always rested and ready.

  117. By Danny on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Yes Sanchez didn’t look good but cmonnn ppl the kid has been getting killed all season. This looks like Kenny O all over again. Have u seen the shots this kid has been taking ? He is shell shocked and scared to even drop back cause 300 lb animals are putting there helmets in his back full speed. Shotty gotta go, we need help on the line asap and also can brodney pool please play safety over eric smith. Smith plays hard but can’t cover a hurt mangold. God I was sick all day today

  118. By Joe on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    U could see tis coming a mile away in pre season.

    Who ever does the jets recruiting needs to be fired. On offense you have a terrible O line, why cut woody, get rid of fanica, and offer moore money not to retire. The QB is below average, they have zero running backs, but good talent at receiver, but they will not see the ball cause sanchez can’t get it in there hands.

    Someone in management go to the belecheck school of talent assessment. We can’t pick good players so we are screwed.

  119. By jeff on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    i cannot believe that schotty is still the offensive coordinator. please fire him and do everybody a favor. philip rivers got better once shotty was out of his life. drew brees got better once shotty was out of his life. i cannot believe that schotty is still the offensive coordinator. please fire him and do everybody a favor. philip rivers got better once shotty was out of his life. drew brees got better once shotty was out of his life. i cannot believe that schotty is still the offensive coordinator. please fire him and do everybody a favor. philip rivers got better once shotty was out of his life. drew brees got better once shotty was out of his life. i cannot believe that schotty is still the offensive coordinator.

  120. By westcoastJET28+ on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Maybe we can give Lofa Tatupa a look!? Is he still available? If he doesn’t work out, it’s not like we would lose any speed in our LB corp. Bart is looking bad this year. Lot of over pursuing and open field misses, and just overall looks slow! He said he wanted to prove he was just as good with out the supporting cast of Lewis, Suggs, Ngata, Reed but, it sure isn’t looking that way. Can we give K. Jenkins a call too while were at it, also Dwood and Faneca? I’d take older slower Oline over this atrocity we have now. Mangold wouldn’t make a difference with the cast he is surrounded by on this Oline. Hopefully O’Hara and /or Seubert get a call this week!

  121. By bill on Oct 3, 2011 | Reply

    Well sure the o-line is terrible. But how does anyone defend schotty? Making excuses for him? Really? After 6 or 7 years of mediocrity? The guy should have been gone years ago, but here we are. Fire Schotty now.

  122. By Gabriel on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Defense and Special Teams stepped up. Offense line stinks badly! Mark Sanchez and Rex Ryan I believe in you you are the future but PLEASE step up your game. schotty needs to quit with the conservative plays does he not realize its working and most of the jet fans don’t like your play calling? Rex Ryan I believe in you and I hope you and Mark Sanchez stay here forever but rally the tream behind you and end the losing skid. We want a superbowl now. Fix the o line and work with sanchez. O line and sanchez baldy need to be worked on.

  123. By Gabriel on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Bryan Thomas will be missed his a productive starter and soild defenseive player. I hope he gets better soon, best wishes to you Bryan Thomas

  124. By another raven fan on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    bottom line, jets had no chance! the ravens defense looks like the 2000 defense. all teams should be worried after the bye, because we get every key player back

  125. By Jack on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Jets don’t need to being in another LB, Aaron Maybin will be fine to replace Thomas. I would mixs it up with Mo Wilkerson. Jets Need to put Kenrick Ellis in there as a DL/NT. What they needs to do is being someone in for OL quick RT, RG, back up C, but again the blame goes on Tannenbaum and Ryan for not fixing the OL’S in the off season. Being saying the last 3-4 4 that Tannenbaum is the one who should be fired his drafts been awful.

  126. By ArtSoCal on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    You need a good O-L for BOTH the passing game and running game. Opposing teams known for their air attack, run the ball better on the ground than we do. The O-L is paramount. Due to the lockout, the Ownership and GM failed to address the O-L situation. The fan base needs to get on them. Jets staff should have pointed this need out to them. When is this going to happen? During the next off season? Another season wasted!

  127. By bill on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Jack the Ravens had like 8, 9 or even 10 guys within 5 yards of the los all night and Schotty calls a flat pass to the wr at their 26 with the game in reach. Really? A 5 year old knows not to call that play against the Ravens in that situation especially. This is not an isolated incident either. The play calling is ridiculous and the schemes are worse. If I was running this team I would have fired Schotty right on the sideline for that call. Wouldn’t have even waited for the end of the game.

  128. By Jack on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Don’t care went you have a bad offensive line like the Jets are having and a QB, who seen to be lost at times went throwing the balls. Went ever you are playing a defense like the Ravens your QB’s need to be fast off the line and getting rig of the ball real fast and Mark Sanchez is not fast or smart enough to think of doing something like that. Offensive line is not giving Sanchez any time to set up to throw the ball even went he have time he don’t throw the balls where its need to be.

  129. By JetStorm on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Time for woody Johnson to get involved a little…Make a rule to your staff.. Draft an Offensive lineman #1 every year forever. In time you will have the best team..Its all about the line. It always has been and it always will be. Also, Sanchez is not the answer. Nice guy but, he is not going to get er done. Need a new OC too.

  130. By sal on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    not bying it, Callahan coaches what he is given, and has done well with it, I watch too many games to back off of Shotenheimer, but will back off saying he is the worst, at times he ilooks it with alot of help from his players, but he is the man on top, and with any sport or business its falls at his feet, exspecially when this well paid 1st round draft pick, the one who dissed Joe willy looks like he is not prepared to play and cant adjust at times, and I said it before sometimes its like Shotty puts a game plan together while driving to the game, not saying thats the way it works, but we have seen these types of games and still made it the the playoffs.
    Just bothers me the offense were treated and played like punks.

  131. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    bill, I was telling Arte today — don’t know if he’s the same guy as ArtSoCal, who sounds like a different person here than the one I spoke to on the phone — that at this pt it’s obvious there’s something going on with the Schotty thing. Only some political dynamic involving him, his father, Rex, Mr. T., and maybe the parking attendants could explain sticking with such a failure for so long. I’ve seen lots of office politics in my day, so maybe Rex is waiting for Schotty to resign, to get another job voluntarily, to see the whole O stop playing for him. That’s pretty weak stuff from a HC especially one who talks like Rex, but who knows. No one who knows a thing about football could possibly defend Schotty’s record all that strongly by now.

  132. By Charlie on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    IRA is right. The season is not over yet, however they are going to make it really tough down the stretch if they do not come out 4-3 going into the break. It is very obvious how important Turner is to the team and his presence missed. Mangold needs to be healthy. The run will come and they need to go back to the run game which wil open up the pass.

  133. By bill on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    Jet Fan 64 you don’t have to be an expert to spot bad. People may use the reasoning that these guys are experts and I’m just a fan but I have eyes. I watch a team like the Panthers (who are a team coming out of the basement in the league) and their offense is efficient and aggressive and mixes it up well. The Jets offense in comparison looks weak, disorganized, lacks any kind of imagination, dismal inneffective playcalling, I could go on for hours. As I said, sure the Oline is struggling, but even when the Jets were successful, it was always a case of the defense propping up the very average offense. The Schotty O hasn’t scared anyone for 7 years.I agree with you it must be politics keeping him. They succeed despite and fail because of him

  134. By steven on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    Tackle Chris Scott from the Steelers is available. He’s 6’5′ and 319 obs

  135. By steven on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    As far as quarterback goes, I think McElroy is going to compete with Sanchez next year. He’s the Jets next Dan Marino

  136. By steven on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    Any Chance we could bring Back Woody and Faneca

  137. By JS on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    @ another ravens fan – I wouldn’t get too psyched about the Ravens. They look great one week and like garbage the next. Callahan could call the plays. They need to shake things up somehow. Moore – maybe but we don’t have Payton Manning as our QB. I love Joe Willie but he needs to keep quiet and let Rex sink his own ship if that is going to happen. Too many DBs drafted while making patchwork OLs and DLs. This is Mike T’s doing and he needs to fix it.

  138. By Jack on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    I like that McElroy vs Sanchez in 2012. McElroy can throw the ball better down the field too.

  139. By sal on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    I hear ya bJack, but that is what we have in this team,playoffs they are pretty good, during the season a deer in the headlite QB, its the OC’s job to adjust and overcome, sometime the guy is looking at the clip board like the plays are moving around on t he paper , maybe even laughing at him, he looks like he is walking in space, just as lost as his QB. I dont know Iam not there, but if this is the cas this guy Mason will let ya know, thats for sure and Plax will follow, and holmes will not be far behind, those are 3 pretty good recivers, they dont want to look like fools for too much longer

  140. By sal on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    Look everyone jumped on owens for what we see now was the truth in philly with Mcnab. sanchez make be next if he dont get off the hoolywood ego trip and become a ball player, he should of been all over the linemen, not staring in space looking for a miracle. i think its good when players come out and throw slakers under the bus!. problems get fixed! Ah he just had a bad day, but you said the same thing the last 2 weeks, come onkick some butt. Time to pic it up.
    Sunday in Foxboro

  141. By Tom Spicer on Oct 6, 2011 | Reply

    Jack, Actually McElroy arm is weaker than Maek Sanchez thats why he was a 7th round drat choice he will remind you of Chad really quick.

  142. By westcoastJET28+ on Oct 6, 2011 | Reply

    To be honest I rather have a poised and accurate Pennington replica (i.e. McElroy) then a strong armed, bad decision making Sanchez.

  143. By Jack on Oct 6, 2011 | Reply

    Well its the QB job to make the played and it the OC to called plays it really like Mark Sanchez is not making the right plays he really making harder for the WR’s and TE’s as well of LT, went he doesn’t throw the balls where it should be. Really this is Sanchez 3rd year he still making tons of mistake it don’t take this long for a QB’s to start playing like a real NFL players. Jets just might want to start thinking if Mark Sanchez is the right qb,

  144. By Jack on Oct 6, 2011 | Reply

    Jets just might want to start thinking if Mark Sanchez is the right QB, for the New York Jets in the future. Too me as of right now he not the right QB, that will take the Jets to a SB, or even win one. Jets might want to lose some more games So that they can have a chance to get or make a trade up to get QB, Andrew Luck.

  145. By IrishJets39 on Oct 6, 2011 | Reply

    I want to see RB, Joe McKnight and FB, John Conner to ground andd pound the ball this Sunday.

  146. By WESTCOASTFAN on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    All you so called JET fans in here bashing on SANCHEZ,remember two straight AFC CHAMPIONSHIP games,The O-LINE needs to protect their QB,or else you aint going to have a running game as well,as far as the RAVENS game goes on Monday night,It woudn’t matter what RB had the ball,with that Raven Defense.Bottom line O-LINE needs to get better.

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