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NFL’s Luckiest Coach? That’s OK by Rex

Posted by Randy Lange on November 28, 2011 – 5:41 pm

Updated, 6:37 p.m. ET

Rex Ryan was unapologetic, as you might expect, a day after the Jets sweated out their 28-24 victory over the Buffalo Bills.

“I’ve said it for three years now — I don’t care if I’m known as the luckiest coach in the league. That’s fine with me,” Ryan told reporters at this afternoon’s news conference at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center. “It’s funny how if we make a mistake we’re horrible, but if we make a play, oh, we’re just lucky. Maybe it’s the green, I don’t now. But I hope karma’s with us and I hope we continue to be lucky. I’d rather be lucky than good. I’d rather be both, and I think we are.”

But that’s not to say the coaches and players didn’t go over their corrections today and will continue to work on the things that made Sunday’s win too close for a lot of comfort.

On offense Ryan referred to “Some of those things, poor decisions or whatever, there’s no doubt we’ve got to clean that up. Are we running routes exactly the way they’re supposed to be, at 12 yards or 15 yards or whatever? We’ve really got to get that tightened up.”

But he continued to praise Mark Sanchez — “He did throw four touchdown passes. … Mark Sanchez is not our problem. He’s one of the strengths of our team.” And he lauded his wideouts, his O-line again, and RB Shonn Greene — ” I don’t think he aggravated anything. I just think he was playing through it,” Ryan said of Greene’s rib injury from Denver. “It seemed like every time he made a run, he got up slow. But he ran great, averaged 6 yards a carry and was really running hard.”

Defensively, Rex said of the Bills’ last drive, “Was it the prettiest thing? No. I’d much rather have ended up with a sack or an interception.”

But he lauded several contributors, such as LB Aaron Maybin — “He plays with his hair on fire. He’s encouraging to watch” — NT Sione Pouha — “He continues to really handle that middle of our defense” — and LB David Harris, who “had a huge game for us as well.”

On specials, Ryan changed the number of this season’s lost fumbles or muffs to five after Antonio Cromartie’s muffed fair catch led a play later to Buffalo’s final TD. The coach went over the reasons for Cro stepping in (Jim Leonhard had the wind knocked out of him the play before, Jeremy Kerley was out and Joe McKnight had a larger role on offense for this game). But he said the reasons didn’t make the turnovers acceptable.

“It’s happening too often to our football team,” Rex said. “It’s uncharacteristic of Jets special teams, that’s for sure.”

Yet the negatives do not detract from Ryan’s belief in his team as it has begun to embark on this perilous trip down the home stretch.

“I definitely think we’re a playoff team,” he said. “We have to prove it on the field but I absolutely think we’re a playoff team. Once we get there, anything can happen. It’s hard to get into the playoffs every year, but that’s certainly what we plan on doing.”

And the plan lives as the Jets make their corrections and get ready to take on their next NFC foe, the Redskins at Washington on Sunday.

At least two players won’t be available for that game though:

DT Mike DeVito — “It looks like he’s got a bit of a knee, an MCL. It’s a different knee from before, though. But I don’t think Mike’s going to play this week.”

S Emanuel Cook — Cook, who recovered the botched Bills squib kick to set up the Jets’ second TD drive, was waived today. Ryan declined to go into details of the release: “Every decision we make is for the benefit of our football team. I’m not going to get into the specifics of what led us to make a decision one way or another. But he was released and we’re going to activate Tracy Wilson off our practice squad. He’s been doing a great job. He’s one of the hardest-working guys we’ve got on this team.”

Ryan didn’t specifically address LaDainian Tomlinson, but LT is getting closer to a return from his knee injury, as is Kerley from his knee. “We’ll be excited to get him back,” Ryan said of his rookie WR/PR. “I’m hopeful he’s back this week.”

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82 Responses to “NFL’s Luckiest Coach? That’s OK by Rex”

  1. By Another Tom on Nov 28, 2011 | Reply

    Maybin seems to have a great upside. I hope that he can develope into the disruptive elete pass rusher that we desperately need..He should study film of and work with Von Miller in the off season. Some of these younger players on our roster have to step up..

  2. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Nov 28, 2011 | Reply

    Of course Rex doesn’t want to go into details of Cook’s release, it obviously reflects badly on somebody. Probably Cook but the way Rex gets excited about and then loses interest in lower-roster guys, sometimes seemingly with no rhyme or reason, maybe on him too. At any rate, I can think of other safetys on the team that we should cut or demote, that’s for sure. Shorter ones, smaller ones, ones who start at the position and get beat on just about every pass play anyway…

  3. By Howie D on Nov 28, 2011 | Reply

    Sometimes mistakes can become infectious. Cro and McKnight are good returners and you hate to see them make those mistakes because they’re better than that, but they’re witnessing an offense that’s turning over the ball much too often, and maybe it’s just rubbing off on them too. The recent special teams blunders are anomalies. Westoff is one of the best in the business and I’m more concerned about our offense than our special teams or defense.

  4. By wayne on Nov 28, 2011 | Reply

    Might be the first time ever Darrelle Revis’s name was omitted from list of honorable mentions after a Jets game he’s played…………..STEP IT UP DARRELLE.

  5. By Karan on Nov 28, 2011 | Reply

    The only 2 thorns in our way of making the wild-card are the Bengals and Raiders. I hope they lose every single one of their remaining games. I truly think the Jets will finish 10-6 and I hope to god we make the playoffs, it may come down to the last game of the season, but I’ll take anything to get in. As for the Broncos, I hope they make the postseason, but only by winning their division. I’m a big Tebow supporter, hope we continues to win but only the AFC West title and not a wild-card. Because lets be honest, we know Houston, Baltimore, New England and either Oakland or Denver will win their divisions. I know Pittsburgh will secure a wild-card, heck they might even win their division. But that last spot has to go to us.

  6. By Karan on Nov 28, 2011 | Reply

    I’m sick of Cincinnati and Oakland.

  7. By westcoastJET28 on Nov 28, 2011 | Reply

    Why!? Why, would they cut Cook!? That doesn’t make sense. I guess you can’t do anything good for this team cause they’ll cut you. Wow, makes no sense. Good luck on Your future endevour Cook, you were my favorite hard hitting safety/ST player.

  8. By IRA on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    Agree Maybin is one of the better stories of the ’11 season so far. Not resigning Digs was a mistake. Think he is better than Cook or Wilson. They also miss Coleman’s 4 sacks and 5 FF’s and Lowery’s INT’s for TD’s.
    As for being lucky sometimes you have to be lucky so you can be good and then hopefully great. They all come hand in hand.

  9. By Tom Spicer on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    If the Jets win out they are in the playoffs. The Broncos will lose to the Pats. The Titans will lose to the Saints. The Bengals will lose to the Steelers & the Ravens. Thats if those 3 teams dont slip up anywhere else as well. I would not be suprised if the Bills win at home this week vs the Titans. Anyway if we take care of our games we are in.

  10. By GaryC on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    Randy, do you know if the compensation the jets have to give to Packers with schladeraff,is based on playing time this year, and is that the reason we have not seen him play this year,unless I have missed some plays this year.

  11. By Randy Lange on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    GaryC, I don’t have the compensation information on the Packers’ trade of Caleb Schlauderaff to the Jets. He has gotten on the field in four games, including Sunday vs. Buffalo, and he in fact made his first pro start, as the third TE on the opening offensive play in Game 5 at New England.

  12. By Tom Spicer on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    Say what you want about Mark the kid just wins. How many 4th quarter comebacks does this kid have? The kid is a winner bottom line its not always pretty but he gets it done. No right tackle, no blocking tight end, no running game, no OC & a worse WR core than last year & he is still getting it done. Does he need to improve his completion percentage YES. Does he need to stop throwing pick sixs or pick in the red zone YES. But he is not as close to bad as guys make him out to be.

  13. By Karan on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    Yea, Cook was pretty good, best hard-hitter since E. Smith and Ihedigbo. I would not be surprised if the Patriots pick him up as they are low in the secondary. Dang it guys, shoulda kept him unless your planning on bringing in someone better.

  14. By Tom Spicer on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    Mark has 21 total TDS 18 passing & 3 rushing only 4 QBS in the entire NFL have more. Rodgers, Brees, Brady & Stafford. Like I said he is not as bad as guys make him out to be.

  15. By Karan on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    They should have kept one of Digs, Lowery or Coleman. Just one at least. What happened to you, Tannenbaum and the rest of the staff for that matter?!

  16. By Big John on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    everyone needs to open their eyes cro blew the Denver game if you watch the touchdown by tebow cro is standing on the goal line looking at him, then in the bills game he drops the ball then lets the receiver catch it for a touchdown. Cro needs to step it up and become a better player or he should get cut……

  17. By Karan on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    You guys think the Jets should sign T-Rich? Not to replace Conner, but to just put him in as a leader, you know like last year, after we won a game, Rex would be like T-Rich “where u at??” T-Rich would lead into “And the home of the Jets!”. I don’t know if they do that anymore, that was great. We need a vocal leader like T-Rich, Jets just don’t seem pumped up this year as they have the previous years, it’s just something I’ve noticed, and same with Rex, Rex is not Rex. Have you guys noticed that? That’s why maybe having T-Rich, the Jets will be more pumped up or play New York Jets football. Because honestly,I can say the most and only complete game the Jets have played all season has been against the San Diego Chargers,clicked on all phases

  18. By Allan O'Dane on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    Luck? Bad Luck?..Come on now..Let’s be real here Rex. O-line has issues. Defense is nowhere what it used to be. Special teams starting to unfold. Seriously we would be lucky to go 8-8 right now. So many things have to be either changed or upgraded with this team. If the Jets would have handle there business in Oakland and Denver we would be 8-3 right now. Losing to Pats and Ravens I can stomach,but to QB’s like Tebow and Campbell it just doesn’t make any sense. Our Defense is giving up and average of 21 points per game. Can’t call yourself and Elite defense giving up points like that. So Rex..Luck has nothing to do with it. Elite Teams put away inferior ones. Lets not have Luck..go out there and smash everyone to and 11-5 record.

  19. By IRA on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    Karan,
    The most important thng for us of course is to win our games but we really need balt to have to be playing for something the last week when they play at Cincy. If Balt doesn’t need that game its not good for us. I guess the bottom line is win out and we are in.
    GO JETS!!!!

  20. By jetsfan80 on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    I think Cincy along with Den or Oak will stumble down the stretch. Cincy has got some nasty opponents coming up. Ten has got a couple tough opponents as well. Only one opponent over .500 for the rest of the season for the Jets. We shoud get in as long as Jets take care of biz, Cincy and Ten lose a couple, and either Den or Oak chokes down the stretch. Wayne, give Revis a little slack. Steve Johnson is no scrub. That guy has got some sick moves. Revis will be fine.

  21. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    Spicer, the problem with Sanchez’s comebacks this yr is that a lot of times they’ve come when he’s played miserably and put himself, and the team, in the hole. It’s one thing to be able to rally your team when the other team keeps scoring, as guys like Brady, Ben R. and Brees are great at. It’s quite another to constantly HAVE TO rally your team in the second half because you can’t score anything in the first half. So talk of “the kid” as “a winner” is sort of glass half-empty, half-full. You could also call “the kid” “a loser” because he puts us in the hole every week with his terrible play in the 1st half. Again, you’re so used to Jet ineptitude you can’t imagine anything else. “The kid” still needs some competition for the job next yr.

  22. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    As for Rex, I’m tired of most everything he says. Talk of “luck” is strictly for losers. Anyone who watched the game ?Sunday saw that we gave BUF plenty of opportunities to win by way of both our O and D and BUF was playing without 1of the best RBs in the NFL and 2 starting DBs. Again, some Jet fans live in a dream world, hermetically sealed off from the rest of the league. Let’s see how much anyone wants to talk about luck the next time we have to play a good team in the post-season. You don’t hear anyone on GB mention the word too often. Watching a team play badly and then allegedly “rebound” to win gives me no better feeling than watching some politician crow about how the economy is “rebounding” because McDonald’s hired a few people.

  23. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    And here’s a good example of Jet Fans in Dreamland: I’ll agree on Tebow, jetsfan80, ’cause he hasn’t put any real pts on the board and that was vs. bad teams. (We were “a bad team” in DEN.) But what makes you think Carson Palmer and Dalton will “stumble down the stretch”? Palmer’s playing on a much better team than he has the last few yrs, Dalton’s playing on a team that’s allowing the 2nd fewest sacks of its QB. The last QB around here I saw fold down the stretch was Sanchez vs. PIT last yr, looking in the 1st half like he’d barely played the game and allowing one of his patented fumbles for a TD. MS leads the NFL, by the way, in turnovers for TDs. So while I hope for the best, I won’t drink the Kool-Aid on this yr’s team much less on MS.

  24. By Karan on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    I totally disagree with Jet Fan Since ’64. “The Kid” does NOT need some competition for the job next year. What he needs is a new offensive coordinator, Sure, Schottenheimer had a decent game yesterday, but overall, the guy is horrible and those issues will appear with him again. Mark has proven in the playoffs that he can consistently win and take us to the big game when it matters most. Does he need to improve? Heck yes, he does, but his coaches need to help him out just as much. You said that he puts us in positions to lose? The only position that I saw yesterday that almost cost us the game was the so called “elite” defense. Mark is a winner, he will improve, it takes a bit more time for some people than others as in his case.

  25. By Karan on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    He isn’t an elite QB and we don’t need him to be. We just need him to put us in positions to win which he has done plenty of. There’s only like 5 elite QB’s in this league out of 32 teams so that shouldn’t even be an issue. I’ll tell you one thing though, disregarding elite QBs, I would much rather take Mark Sanchez as my QB than the Joe Flacco’s, Matt Ryans, Matt Staffords or even Tony Romos of the world.

  26. By Karan on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    Just be patient. Jet fan Tom.

  27. By Karan on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    If everything works out by the end of the season. The AFC playoff teams should be Texans, Patriots, Steelers, Broncos, Ravens and Jets.

  28. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    Yeah, Karan, the elite QBs in recent years have been Warner, Ben R., Brady, Brees, the Mannings, and Rodgers. And guess what else they are? SUPER BOWL PARTICIPANTS! If you wanna make out of Mark Sanchez a religion built on faith, dreams, “luck,” and a completely ahistorical, ascientific look at his play, go right ahead, but I’ve been watching this team and this game too long for that jive. And by the way, it’s a little early to be writing off Ryan and Stafford in favor of MS. What’s more, while I’d shed no tears over the loss of Schotty, like I said yesterday at this pt I have to believe he’s as frustrated with MS as me. Schotty HAS heard of vertical passes of more than 10 yds and I’d love to hear the real reason why he’s not calling them.

  29. By Hans on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    Karan…we HAVE been patient…he’s regressing. Look at the positive numbers all you want, but don’t ignore the casualties. He needs a fire lit under his backside, more than just giving snaps to Brunell at practice. He needs someone to force him to earn his job. Personally, if he doesn’t step it up, I’m gonna be ready to Back the Mack next year.

  30. By harry-o on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    of the 5 losses so far only one ( denver) was the game that the jets should have won. the others-pats (2) , ravens, raiders are all division leaders.The jets play no one with a better record than them the rest of the way. the remaining teams the jets play can only play for pride and for being the spoiler. should the jets keep winning help is needed w/ cincy, tennesee, denver, eleven wins still may not be enough, but it would be a nice finish, real nice. go jets !

  31. By Karan on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    Jet Fan Tom. you should be happy with what you have. Jets haven’t been a great team for a looong time. Before Sanchez, did Pennington take you to 2 AFC Championships in a row? No, Did Pennington or any other Jets QB for that matter have 4 road playoff wins? No. The only exception is Namath, but lets be honest, since he won the Super Bowl, no other Jets QB has even close as Mark. Now I don’t you if you read my earlier comments correctly, but I’ll repeat myself, its not the stats, its the wins that matter. Mark Sanchez is a winner and yea, we haven’t won a super bowl yet, and it may not be this year either, but I honestly believe with this QB, we can. I’m surprised you seem to support Schotty, lol. Be patient, Jet fan Tom, be patient.

  32. By Karan on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    One more thing, Jet Fan Tom, did you when Schottenheimer coached Rivers in San Diego, he was pretty mediocre? Now look at Rivers, with the exception of this season. I admit Mark needs to play better, but he needs a better coach, someone not by the name of Schottenheimer. And even with Schotty as Marks coach, Mark has more playoffs wins than Rivers has had in like 7 seasons. Sanchez has no good O-line, no good running game, receivers don’t get open enough and he still manages to come back to WIN the game. I know sometimes he puts us in positions to lose, and that’s sometimes, as also does the D, but Mark somehow finds a way to come back. So go ahead, keep blaming the QB and don’t try to understand a better meaning of the situation.

  33. By westcoastJET28+ on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    I agree with what, jetsfan80, said about Revis vs S. Johnson, that guys has to be the toughest receiver Revis has ever faced. Not only does he have great route running skills, he has amazing double to triple moves to gain separation off the line. That was a great match up to watch and I hope to continue to watch in the future. I love to see Revis work for that money, instead of being completely out of the game cause QBs fear throwing his way. All the criticism of Revis this week is only gonna fire him up, and make him show how dominate he can be.

  34. By joe on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    As per their coach who has GUARANTEED us a superbowl title for years now and has failed to deliver so much as a division title the Jets need all the luck they can get.GREAT TEAMS dont need luck we do.I will give REX this, their the greatest 500 team in the NFL right now.This team when compared to the NFL ELITE has more problems than a math book.Not one time this year have they won against a quality team (BALTIMORE,NE 2X)its a pipe dream to think anything more.

  35. By joe on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    Ps to those who say theres only 5 elite qbs in the league so what we dont need one- they should check out all the superbowl winners the past 10 years as EVERY ONE had an elite qb (besides the RAVENS and BUCKS .The RAVENS and BUCKS has MULTIPLE hall of famers on D We definately dont have that )

  36. By joe on Nov 29, 2011 | Reply

    I have been a Jets fan since the early 70s and i TIRED OF ALL THE FALSE PROMISES TO WIN.Watch the PACKERS ,RAVENS SAINTS and all the optimists out there PLEASE tell me how we can compete with them If the Jets played NO or GB TODAY at a neutral site they would be DOUBLE DIGIT underdogs for a reason..Even on the AFC side they dont match up well esp against the Ravens

  37. By Tom Spicer on Nov 30, 2011 | Reply

    Joe, We played the Ravens on the road this year with no Nick Mangold & we were a 4 point underdog? What are you talking about?

  38. By jetsfan80 on Nov 30, 2011 | Reply

    ’64 Tom, you like to give me a hard time don’t you? Let’s talk about Sanchez “folding”, shall we? When I speak of stumbling, I am speaking of a team that has a chance to lose down the stretch. I said nothing about Palmer stumbling down the stretch. It was merely a hope that the “Raiders” would stumble. Mr. Dalton is doing well right now in Cincy, but I wouldn’t quite crown the young man as an elite QB until he finishes that brutal schedule he’s got coming up. The Steelers, Ravens and Texans are all 8-3 and a couple of them know a little bit about winning down the stretch themselves. I was only looking at the glass as half-full, something you should try some time. Life seems to be a little more sunny for me when I stay positive.

  39. By jetsfan80 on Nov 30, 2011 | Reply

    I can’t help but think that Cincy, the Raiders or the Broncos would likely lose some of their games down the stretch given their upcoming schedules. The Jets schedule has only one opponent over .500 remaining. Numbers never lie, my friend. Numbers are what you use all of the time to criticize your own team’s QB. If you have such an issue with almost “all” of the personnel & decisions the Jets make and question their intelligence so much, why don’t you find another team that better fits what you are looking for? Call me crazy, but I thought fans were supposed to SUPPORT their team. The glass will always be half-full when I talk about the Jets b/c I’ve got their back, even when they’re 1-15.

  40. By jetsfan80 on Nov 30, 2011 | Reply

    Now about Sanchez, I don’t call losing to that Pittsburgh team in the AFC championship “folding”. When you lose to the Broncos like he did last week, that’s “folding”. Give the guy a little bit of credit, man. He’s not the best QB in the league, but he is far from the worst. Anyone who watched the painful play of O’Donnell, Foley, Brister, Lucas, Carter, Mirer, Bollinger and Clemens will tell you what a bad QB looks like. These guys are no where near the level that Sanchez is at. He makes bad decisions but that doesn’t mean he’s a “loser”, as you put it. The main prob with this yrs team is that the strengths of our team in the past are becoming weaknesses. Defense and running the football.

  41. By jetsfan80 on Nov 30, 2011 | Reply

    Blaming #6 for losing would be like blaming the Colts D of the past few yrs for losing a game if Manning throws 5 picks. Their D is not their strongest part of the team. You expect the D to struggle more than Manning. The same goes for our Jets. This team is not built for MS to be the strength, but rather the D and running the ball. If you want to place blame, then place it there as well as on MS. You even found a way to place some blame on MS for the D giving up that 90+ yd drive in the last minutes of the Broncos game when we had the win in hand. They can’t play D b/c they don’t have faith in MS. BUUULLLONEYYY! What about all the holding calls on Cro? What about the poor coverage tackling? Our D needs to play like the #1 D they should be.

  42. By jetsfan80 on Nov 30, 2011 | Reply

    All MS needs to do is take care of the football, which I have said all along is his main prob. Then again, if you run the ball well, you don’t force your QB into having to make big plays and tough decisions when throwing the ball. Want a good example of what we should be this year, then look at the 49ers. Great D, great running game, good special teams, ok QB…and they’re 9-2. That’s what the Jets are capable of when the supposed strength of our team shows up to play! Play D, run the ball, and play action pass…That is Jets football. MS t/o’s have hurt us, but some of our losses have been due to poor play by the D and a soft running game. Everything is not on MS, Schotty, Rex, Smith and Leonhard. The team, as a UNIT, needs to play better!

  43. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Nov 30, 2011 | Reply

    Karan and jetsfan80, patience and staying positive are fine until they become self-limiting. As Jean-Paul Sartre said, “I hate people who are understanding of their executioners.” I don’t own stock in the Jets, don’t work for the Jets, don’t center my life around the Jets. I watch the Jets and say what I think based on the good and the bad and having watched all NFL and AFL teams since about ’63, I can say without doubt that the Jets as an organization seem to have a fairly slow learning curve. They still haven’t figured out, for instance, that this is a passing league and that you need deep threat WRs. After 3 yrs with the same crew, you can start to draw or at least lean toward some conclusions. And the conclusions I’m leaning toward…

  44. By NGfromMY on Nov 30, 2011 | Reply

    64 Tom refuse to say Jet Fan this guy whines more then the french country side during harvest. STRAP ON THE PADS and go get’m dude there’s not one person that would stand beside you… not one. Week and week out, win or lose, playoffs, AFC Championships doesn’t matter… Get the WAaa :*( Ambulence cause the cryings coming, gimme a break… There’s another sport called football played in England and the second tier and third tier teams who have NO CHANCE still have supporters, people who bleed their teams colors. This team is a reason to love something cause you can’t not love it, it’s unconditional. No one’s saying they’re the greatest except the head coach and the players, and that’s good cause if you don’t think you can win, you’re right.

  45. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Nov 30, 2011 | Reply

    …are that we’re not likely to win a SB with the Rex/Schotty/Sanchez nucleus. Come close, show promise, have great games, yes, we’ve already done all of that. Really dominate, instill fear, win big, I don’t see it with these three. Maybe if one of them is let go and the others step up in his absence, but even that looks doubtful. I don’t think Rex has the talent, maturity, temperament, or insight to coach a SB-caliber team. Sometimes I don’t think he even understands how the game has been played since about 2 yrs before SB#3. Tougher to tell about Schotty and MS but neither of them have set the world on fire and talk of MS singlehandedly winning 4 playoff games is absurd. And coming out flat in the AFC championship is FOLDING, my friend!

  46. By NGfromMY on Nov 30, 2011 | Reply

    Sorry if thats harsh but it’s like listening to a pats fan… or worse someone from philly… Randy the rest of the crew if you don’t post this no hard feelings but do you got a muzzle for this guy? If the Jets lose every game from here to eternity are you gonna switch teams? 64 Tom are you a yankees fan?

  47. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Nov 30, 2011 | Reply

    Thanks for the dose of reality about elite QBs, joe. You know you’re really talking crazy when your love of Mark Sanchez is so great that instead of evaluating his play honestly you start tearing down the concept of the elite QB as Super Bowl winner instead. But hey, I’m been watching this team a long time and nobody ever said that all Jets fans were ever all that tethered to reality. Somehow it’s always the fault of refs or something, never players we’ve picked and decisions we’ve made. You’d think wandering in the desert for MORE than 40 yrs would render such excuse-making ludicrous, but some people cling to their loser status with a vengeance. The Jets will win big when Jet fans are willing to back the moves a winner makes to win big.

  48. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Nov 30, 2011 | Reply

    NGfromMY, I remember listening to Hendrix’s ELECTRIC LADYLAND all during the magical Jet yr of ’68-69 and I gotta say, your first post here is the most surreal thing I’ve heard in the vicinity of the Jets since “1983 (A Merman I Should Turn to Be).” By your second post I figured you’re trying to say fans shouldn’t criticize the team. I look at it this way: Fans shouldn’t tolerate mediocrity for this long and at these prices when the solutions aren’t rocket science. So I’m already preparing for life without Rex, Schotty, Sanchez, all of which will happen in a yr or 2 if we keep talking about luck, how Holmes and Plax aren’t good enough, how the refs are against us, etc. As for YOUR take on the Jets’ chances? “Rainy Day, Dream Away,” dude.

  49. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Nov 30, 2011 | Reply

    Oh, and by the way, NGfromMY, I haven’t strapped on the pads for more than forty years — but when I did, I saw the field at QB a lot better than Sanchez does. (Threw better long, too.)

  50. By jetsfan80 on Nov 30, 2011 | Reply

    I back the Jets moves because I trust that they will make the moves needed to win big. They have made some big moves the last few yrs to try to win a SB. If you don’t believe that then your eyes have been shut for the last 40 yrs. Go JETS!

  51. By davetharave on Nov 30, 2011 | Reply

    I don’t want the football team I follow to win because the head coach thinks he’s lucky. I want them to win because they beat the living daylights out of the other team, especially Brady, Welker and Wooden-Head. Memo to Cromartie – you’re supposed to try and stop the opposing QB from getting into the end zone, not pretend that the other guy is blocking you so well that there’s nothing you can do. And that’s just what you did against the Broncos.

  52. By Gabriel on Nov 30, 2011 | Reply

    Its really sad to see how bitter and negative some Jet fans have become like Tom 64, I agree with Jim Leonhard, I am disapointed in the fans for booing sanchez before and during the game. As fans we need to back them up and support them. There is a reason why Cook was waived, dont start hating Rex. I also loved Cook, he was great special teams player but there has to be a reason, I look forward to tracey wilson. Aaron Maybin you rock! GO SANCHEZ AND SCHOTTY

  53. By joe on Nov 30, 2011 | Reply

    Whe WE played BALT (Mangold or no Mangold) we got KILLED.TODAY if we played GB,NO or Balt at a neut site we be doub digit underdogs.As far as JET football-est the run THAT TERM IS REXS EXCUSE FOR NOT HAVING AN ELITE QB.Does Bellichick,Payton McCarthy say they NEED to est the run- NEVER because their qbs can singlehandidly determine the games outcomes=OURS CANT.Est the run is DECADES OLD TODAY with an elite QB youd better have a Dfilled with PROBOWLERS.

  54. By joe on Nov 30, 2011 | Reply

    As far as J Lenoard and our right to BOO,Jim if you guys were WINNING (like your coach PROMISED US )NO ONE would be booing.Jim your paid alot of money to win if you lose you still get paid and collect your money ,dont you

  55. By joe on Nov 30, 2011 | Reply

    PS WE have BEAT one team the entire year (DALLAS )WITH A WINNING RECORD one team

  56. By joe on Nov 30, 2011 | Reply

    LOL despite the fact that REX has guaranteed Super bowls and has not won ANY kind of title since hes been here hes got some fans believing he has BUILT a team to win by est the run. Guys what do you think hes going to say I TRADED UP AND DRAFTED THE WRONG GUY AT QB.TODAY (not 20 years ago )if you could win that way teams with average QBS would be winning superbowls by ground and pound.Rex has got to convilute because he drafted the average qb

  57. By Karan on Nov 30, 2011 | Reply

    Finally some justice words, thank you jetsfan80, ’64 Tom is lost in his own ignorant thoughts. You seem to negative ’64 Tom, if you don’t like Sanchez or the Jets, please go support another team and stop your bickering.

  58. By Tom Spicer on Nov 30, 2011 | Reply

    Joe, 2 weeks ago we played the Pats & were 2 point favorites?

  59. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Nov 30, 2011 | Reply

    Gabriel, I think what’s negative is sticking with ideas that aren’t working, like Rex’s outdated ideas about the O as joe points out, or simply backing anything the team does unthinkingly, like jetsfan80 says he does. That’s negative because it doesn’t show the courage to make changes in order to produce the positive. And like I said on two stories ahead of this one, I don’t even boo the opposing team. The closest thing I do to booing is on this site, talking about what I see not working and what I’d like to see tried instead. And one of the things I’d like to see tried is Leonhard as a situational player since he’s pretty weak as a starter. As for Cook, you can say there’s a reason for anything but I don’t see a good one in this case.

  60. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    Earth to Karan: You don’t support a team, a country, a business, or a person by living in denial of its problems. Besides, why do you make it personal? You wouldn’t like it if I made it personal and said hey Karan, I can’t stand starry-eyed, ignorant, gutless “fans” whose unconditional approval of everything the team does just makes it easier for the FO to hire the hire wrong coaches, draft the wrong players, and make excuses for their mistakes instead of facing up to them. Why don’t YOU go support another team before your weak-kneed attitude does any more damage to this one? See, other people know how to be mean too, who told you that you have the patent on that? When you wanna talk football instead of fanboy/girl nonsense, let me know.

  61. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    “Too” is spelled the way I spelled it here, Karan. See, I can be just as petty and mean as you. Everybody has the right to comment on this site in their own way. Some of us might be ahead of the curve with respect to changes we’d like to see made, some might be behind it, some might still be saying we shoulda kept Chad, TJ, and Leon. I don’t think it serves the team to just rubber-stamp everything that the owners and coaches do, and I shouldn’t have to remind you that whatever we’ve been doing hasn’t worked too well for about 40 yrs. As for Sanchez specifically, I’ll try to mostly quote all the things that are said by ex-players and coaches about him though I warn you, some of it might be “to negative” for your tender ears.

  62. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    Sorry those two posts contain some of the same stuff, Karan, but I got the impression that Randy was going to print only one of them. But I’m glad to have made the point that joking around, being sarcastic, even expressing massive frustration with folks who post on this site is one thing — but directly insulting them by unambiguously calling them “ignorant” or any other names like that is NOT cool in my view, nor is telling them to go root for another team. Nobody can know for sure at the time that they post who’s going to be right about what — and if Tebow beating us and sticking to it to both our O and D in the same game doesn’t prove that, nothing does!

  63. By joe on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    Tom WEEKS ago we were at home and still got KILLED by NE .New England is no where near as good as the Pack or Saints. I stand by my words TODAY if we were to play GB or NO at a NEUTRAL SITE (not at home )we would be DOUBLE DIGIT UNDERDOGS easily

  64. By joe on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    And the operative phrase as it directly relates to the JETS is WHATEVER THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THE PAST 40 YEARS HASNT WORKED OUT SO WELL.(lol thats a pretty fair understatement )Again alot of the problems here are compounded by our coach who writes checks with his mouth (for years now )that his players dont back up on the field.

  65. By joe on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    Those who believe what REX is selling are in denial and are not addressing the cold hard truth that EVERY Superbowl team this decade (except Balt or TB) had an elite qb.Baltimore and TB happened to have 2 of the top 10 defences in NFL History.

  66. By joe on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    In todays NFL hardly any RBS are taken first round (all qbs and wrs )Running is secondary .The winning teams TODAY SPREAD the d efences out (Pack did to Pitts last year )and make you defend the entire field on every down.Its further refined with hurry ups (really tired the d out )The philisopy really works the only problem is you MUST HAVE an elite qb to run aqnd a few probowl targets to run it

  67. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    joe, I’m your biggest fan, I think everything you say is absolutely right on. That doesn’t mean I think we can’t make the playoffs, just that I share your belief that in this day and age it’s a complete fantasy to think you can go very far without an elite QB.

  68. By Tom Spicer on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    Joe, That all sounds easy but really how many ELITE QBS are there in the world? Mabye 10?

  69. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    How many teams win the Super Bowl every year, Spicer?

  70. By Tom Spicer on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    Tom 64, I dont get your question.

  71. By joe on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    Tom (Spicer )theres not even 10 elite qbs in the leagueand thats the problem if a team doesnt have one a superbowl win is a fantasy.We all know only 1 team wins per year BUT THE FRANCHISES with the elite ones win more than once or at least win the div every year.After 40 years were more than due.What compounts it all is our coach who CLAIMS to have the best team in the NFL year after year but on the field doesnt show it

  72. By joe on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    Jet Fan Since 64 Tom,I too beliill on useve they will make the playoffs(barely beating the Buffalos Washingstons ect ) but the same thing as past years will happen sooner or later (3 road games )they will go down.This team as far too many holes to compete with the elite teams ,Dallas is the only team this year they beat with a winning record. In the AFC,The Pats can score at will on us Pitts TOUGH AT HOME and Balt will kill us at the line of scrimmage on BOTH sides of the ball.

  73. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    It’s sarcasm, Spicer — maybe there ARE only 8 or 9 elite QBs in the world. But do you want your team to have one or not? And there’s definitely only one Super Bowl winner every yr, you want to be that team or not? If there was only one woman left in the world and millions of men, it wouldn’t matter if that woman was Megan Fox or Rosanne Barr, a lot of guys would make a play for her. The guys that were winners, anyway.

  74. By joe on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    Dont get me wrong to route for your team is great but not unconventionally in my book at least.This is the NFL not some Division 3 non scholarship college.These guys are paid millions of dollars for one goal only =to win the Superbowl I think the fans here have been more than patient (40 years guys )Francessa hit the nail on the head as REXS act will grow older much faster than other coaches because of his mouth.(FAILURE to deliver what he promised )

  75. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 3, 2011 | Reply

    I agree with pretty much everything you say today, joe. I’ve seen enough of Rex to know he’s not the right HC for this team and since he’s constantly going on about how he “won’t change,” I don’t have to see too many more years of him before I’m cool with letting him go and starting over — with someone who understands where pro football is at today. It’s funny, he’s younger than me but just about the only players and coaches he ever makes reference to are from the ’60s.

  76. By joe on Dec 3, 2011 | Reply

    64Tom if Sanshez isnt the right guy (i think what we see is what we get after 3 plus years he isnt ELITE BUT AVERAGE )this team is regressing esp considering ALL the recent draft failures and overestimation of existing talent.I laugh when the players (WHO ARE PAID MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO WIN )complain that we boo.There coach brought much of this on himself by not winning anything in 3 years

  77. By joe on Dec 3, 2011 | Reply

    PS if hes lucky to get in and in all probability is out first or second playoff game what happens next yea r(besides Rex running his mouth in the off season predictiong Super Bowl wins).QB aside need RT ,WR(PLAX will be 36 )Pass Rushers (linebackers old and slow )and 2 safteys (GOES WITHOUT SAYING )We are what we are as were in DEC and have won 1 game against teams with winning records The elite teams we played we got hurt bad.

  78. By joe on Dec 3, 2011 | Reply

    64 TOM What i dont understand is when certain fans are content a playoff win or two but basically 40 years of Coslets, Kotites and now Ryan all failures .As you pointed out why one time cant we have the Marioo or the Rogers instead we get Obrien and Sanchez .Why cant we be the Steelers or the Packers DOMINATE instead of being lucky to beat the Buffalos of the league.LOL remember we could have had Payton rather than HAVE us draft him obted to stay at TEN

  79. By joe on Dec 3, 2011 | Reply

    NFL NETWOFK just had a segment the TWO WORST DEFENCES in football belong to the PACKERS and Patriots.The TWO WORST RUNNING TEAMS in football belong to the PACKERS and PATRIOTS .The TWO BEST QUARTERBACKS in football belong to the PACKERS and Patriots..In regard to the Colts one analysist (and the data supports this) CLAIMED ELITE QB Payton Manning himself worth 10 plus wins

  80. By jetsfan80 on Dec 4, 2011 | Reply

    Unthinkingly, 64 Tom? Sounds like this Jet fan from dreamland knows a little more than you thought. How did Carson Palmer and Andy Dalton fair this weekend? Apparently not as well as you had predicted. I never say this to people, but you deserve it…I TOLD YOU SO!

  81. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 4, 2011 | Reply

    “Dominate” isn’t in the vocabulary of some Jets fans, joe. They don’t believe in it, can’t quite fathom it, think it’s only for other teams…and then they wonder why we can’t win a Super Bowl.

  82. By Jet Fan Tom Since '64 on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Sounds like that Jet fan from dreamland’s thinking is flawed, jetsfan80, if he needs to compare Sanchez to a rookie QB with a rookie #1 WR and a guy who was sitting at home until a few wks ago.

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