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Rex and Staff put Tom Moore to Work at Practice

Posted by Randy Lange on December 1, 2011 – 4:07 pm

A semi-special guest at the Jets’ practice today at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center was Tom Moore. “Semi-” because Moore is, after all, a consultant for the Jets, but “-special” because he hasn’t come to the complex much since training camp, instead breaking down Jets practice videos and advancing the Green & White’s next opponents primarily from his Hilton Head, S.C., home.

“Tom came in late last night and we put him out there, put him to work,” head coach Rex Ryan said at his daily news conference following practice. “It’s always good to have him in there, his knowledge and perspective. … He and Schotty talk all the time, they send emails back and forth. We got him out of the house and he’s here today. I’d like to get him around here more. I’m going to try to keep him here. We’ll see if his wife will let him.”

Moore is, however, retired, so we’ll see how well that goes. But as an on-site consultant, you can be sure that Rex, OC Brian Schottenheimer and even DC Mike Pettine will bounce some ideas off of the former offensive coordinator for Peyton Manning and the Colts.

Offensively, of course, one trend the Jets sure want to cure is their slow-starting engine. Dating to Game 4 of 2010 at Buffalo, the Jets offense has generated one first-drive touchdown and two first-quarter TDs.

The Jets have picked up the pace in the last three quarters — their 20.3-points-per-game average over Quarters 2-4 in their first 11 games puts them on a 323-point pace for those quarters, which would be their most since the 1998 team scored 338 points over those three quarters. But still, a faster start in the final five games would make things easier during the Jets’ uphill stretch run.

“We’ve tried a bunch of things,” Ryan said. “I haven’t asked him that specifically, but maybe I will while he’s here.”

As for the defense, the Jets are doing some very nice things this season. They’re eighth in the NFL in total yards allowed, seventh in passing yards allowed, fourth in opponents’ third-down conversion rate, and third in opponents’ passer rating. But closing out games? After the Tim Tebow Broncos rescued their Week 11 game over the Jets on their final possession and the Bills almost did the same Sunday, Ryan and Pettine are seeking answers to that question.

“If you’re going to be a true dominant team on defense, you’ve got to close those things out,” Ryan said. “Are we a dominant defense? I don’t think there’s a dominant defense in the league this year. But are we pretty good? I think we’re pretty good. I think we’re capable of being better.”

Maybe Moore, whose Colts offenses frustrated the Jets defenses a few times over the years, such as in 2006 in the Meadowlands and in Lucas Oil in the 2009 AFC Championship Game, has a few pointers for the Green & White defense this time around.

“The players really respect Tom. He talks to the defensive guys, the offensive guys. It’s good to have him here,” said Rex, who added that after Moore was on hand for the Jets’ October win over the Chargers, he’s “trying to get him to come to the game” against the Redskins at FedEx Field on Sunday.

Injury Reports

The Jets injury report following today’s practice was identical to Wednesday’s, with Mike DeVito (knee) the only DNP and Vlad Ducasse (knee) the only player limited during team drills.

The Redskins’ report grew by two players to 13 today, with WRs Jabar Gaffney (foot) and Terrence Austin (hamstring) added to the list as limited in today’s practice. Also, LB London Fletcher (ankle), who didn’t practice Wednesday, was limited.

No Flex-ing Next Week

The Jets’ home game next Sunday, Dec. 11, vs. Kansas City will remain as originally scheduled with a 1 p.m. ET kickoff.

Tom Moore Helping the Jets Fly


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58 Responses to “Rex and Staff put Tom Moore to Work at Practice”

  1. By wayne on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    From the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks…….Rex can’t hold in how much he wants this man coaching his offense….If nothing else it would ease his doubts bout what’s going on on that side of the ball………………It’s comin’ cause they ain’t goin’ nowhere….CAN’T NOT PROTECT YOUR QB AND EXPECT YOUR OFFENSE TO CONSISTENTLY PRODUCE……No chicken, no egg……Or is that no egg, no chicken?…………….One a those………………………Then there’s that defense. No.8 my foot………If it’s not ok to invoke stats with GQ, it’s not ok with that D………Keep hope alive Uncle Joe, keep hope alive.

  2. By wayne on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    Did I mention Tim Tebow today? Let’s wait till the weekend………Kicking butt and praying bout it.

  3. By wayne on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    64, don’t like giving you too much credit, especially after your lobbying for Asomugha fiasco, but I must say you had a bit of an epiphany on Jason Campbell. For those who would question such a pickup, I would ask, how many snaps(real ones!) does #8 take?…. Campbell can take some of those ‘NO’ snaps while regaining his health and the benefits would be twofold…….GQ would have the resident, living, breathing, real snap stealer in-house to motivate him. And the price should be very reasonable………I don’t know why you and your renegades continually attack the prince. There’ll be no coupe. HE’LL HAVE AT LEAST ONE MOORE OC BEFORE THEY GIVE UP ON HIM…..AND NOT A MOMENT SOONER. No sense in spiking the food. He has tasters.

  4. By the real T.o. on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    WHY OH WHY IS IT WEEK 13 AND STILL SCHOTTY REFUSES TO START IN THE 2 MINUTE OFFENSE! WY ARE YOU GUYS SO BLIND IN THE FRONT OFFICE? WHEN ITS BROUGHT UP SCHOTTY LAUGHS IT OFF LIKE HES GOT 12 SUPERBOWL RINGS!!! YET WHEN THE PATSIES CAME HERE AND RAN IT, WE COULDN’T DO A SINGLE THING TO STOP IT!!! SANCHEZ THRIVES IN THE 2 MINUTE DRILL AND WE HAVEN’T STARTED WITH IT ONCE HAVE WE? TOM MOORE CANT SAVE THIS TEAM FROM SCHOTTYS LACK OF INSIGHT INTO WHAT MAKES SANCHEZ TICK. BEATING DEAD HORSES STILL …JUST BEATING DEAD HORSES

  5. By Karan on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    Hey Randy, if we make the playoffs and I really hope and I do think we will, will Tom Moore attend those games? Mainly because those are the big ones, it would be great if he could come. Also, hope he makes the trip to Washinton, I have a ton of respect for the guy, changes an offensive atmosphere, Schotty could use some pointers from him.

  6. By Randy Lange on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    Karan, we don’t have Tom Moore’s schedule yet for down the road. If we get advance word, we’ll let you know.

  7. By Russell on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    Randy, do you know why Cook was released by the Jets. If they needed to cut someone, cut DB Pool. I read that the Jets tried out 11 or so players. I hope they sign then put OT Bell from Furman on the practice squad. With Kroul, Landolt and Bell, the Jets can develop 3 offensive lineman. Are the Jets trying to convert Gilbert from a 3-4 DE to a TE. Sounded like it, doesn’t make sense. Saw that OLB E.Jones was released again. Why not have both Sapp and E.Jones on the practice squad. Before injury, Sapp was a projected 1st round pick. Time to develop some off the edge pash rushers.

  8. By joe on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    Rex out of curosity are you hard at work on your GUARTANTEE WELL WIN IT NEXT YEAR BOAST YET .Three years here telling everyone how we have the best everything in the NFL without so much as a division title (LOL last week you stated were LUCKY TO HAVE SCHOTTY .The only ones lucky to have SCHOTTY is whoever were playings DEFENCE)

  9. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    Until Rex starts talking about how we need a dominant OFFENSE, I don’t think he’s a good coach for the 21st century NFL. wayne, it’s not that I’m crazy about Campbell but I am crazy about pro football. It’s fun to actually keep an eye on the whole NFL like I did as a kid, devouring my issues of Pro Football Weekly the minute they came in the mail. Anyone who’s watched Campbell up to this yr saw a guy who finally got into a stable situation and started to execute well. We’re not going to trade up for another rookie QB anytime soon but though I love McElroy on paper and in this yr’s pre-season, he may not have the goods physically. In that context, getting Campbell and dumping Brunell may be a good move on more than one level.

  10. By joe on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    lol T Moore whats he going to do (theres definately no Payton Manning here )We ground you and pound you (play like a Jet )In other words we must convilute and make excuses for the issue of we dont have, an elite qb thats why we try to run the ball.(you got to tell the fans something and you certainly cant tell them we wasted 50 million bucks drafting an average qb )

  11. By scjoe on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    Well you answered one of my questions Randy. I was going to ask you how many first drive TDs there have been over the past 2 seasons, but I now see it is a grand total of ONE! If my math is correct that means ONE opening drive TD in the past 23 games. That is beyond bad. Yet there are still so many Sanchez supporters who refuse to acknowledge that horrendous stat. It is the fault of the OC, the O line, the WRs, the lack of a running game, dropped passes, etc. etc. etc. Anything but the QB. Yet when he pulls a game out late he is the hero and the sole reason why. Just can’t have it both ways people.

  12. By scjoe on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    Randy, let me put you on the spot. I would love to know where the Jets stand league wide over the past two seasons as far as scoring TDs on their opening drive. I would venture to say they are #32, Would I be correct?

  13. By Randy Lange on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    scjoe, I don’t track the entire league in opening-drive TDs, just the Jets and their opponents.

  14. By Howie D on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    Are you kidding me? Tom Moore’s in da house. Let’s put him to work immediately. Rex did say earlier this week that “Sanchez is not the problem.” Now he brings in Tom Moore. I’m connecting the dots. Way to go Rex, you’ll have a much better “Schott” of delivering on your promise to meeting the Pres in the White House. Don’t turn back now. Stay the course, Rex, Jets will be much better and the fans will love you for it. I’m gettin’ the ticker-tape ready.

  15. By Karan on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    wayne, you think Rex really wants Moore as his OC? I hope your right, I would also love to see that

  16. By IRA on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    The 1st qt scoring problem is a huge one and i just don’t get it. Its hard to believe they haven’t figured it out after all this time. I guess its how you finish that really counts. I think stats are real interesting to look at and sometines they tell the story. But a lot of times they are misleading. Basically the Jets should be 8-3 right now if not for 2 plays. The McFadden run at 17-7 and Tebow’s drive i guess Leonhard’s missed tackle. And 8-3 would feel a lot better than 6-5 and holding your breath for other teams to lose.
    They have 5 games to get this right and hope for the best.
    GO JETS!!!!!!

  17. By IRA on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    I would have to agree that getting LT back for the home stretch run fresh is a good thing. I thing it would be wise to give him more touches especially since Greene is banged up. Loved watching Lynch last night.

  18. By Tom Spicer on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    The Jets need to either start LT or Mcknight at running back Greene is not a starting running back while Mark has had good & bad games I can only name one good game Greene has had all year out of 11. We need a spark to the running game & starting someone else might do it. Rushing for less than 80 yards in every game but 1 is not going to cut it. If we are going to make the playoffs we have to be able to run the ball. The O line can not protect the QB the only other way we can take the relentless beating the QB has taken this year off of him is to be able to run the ball. LT should be fresh with the small amount of runs he has had this year & Mcknight has showed promise when he has run the ball.

  19. By Tom Spicer on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    SCJoe, You talk of posters trying to have it both ways but the opposite is what you are doing. Our O line has given up a career high sack total to Mark IN 11 GAMES! The year is not even over what will his sack total be at the end of the year? You refuse to acknowledge the fact that the poor O line play has hurt him. We have no running game Greene has over 80 yards 1 time in 11 games. You refuse to acknowledge the fact that having no running game has hurt the QB. You also refuse to acknowledge that losing Braylon & Cotchery has hurt the QB. I look at ALL sides of it!

  20. By GaryC on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    to the people questioning if moving Gilbert to tightend is far fetched,I will give you two other examples, Zach Potter who was drafted as a defensive end by jets out of Nebraska is now playing tightend for Jaguars,and Bruce Miller who people were looking at as a rush end in this past draft is now the forty niners fullback,with Gilberts athletic ability maybe it can be done,seeing that maybe he didn’t have the meaness for the defensive side of ball,I will take a chance with a 6’5 265-270 tightend.Jets need all the athletic ability they can get, no matter what side of the ball.

  21. By Jersey Rich on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    Can’t help but wonder if the Indy O was successful because of Moore?? I think if I had Peyton, I could probably be a fair OC!! Go Jets!!

  22. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    Face it, scjoe, you’re Galileo, Rex is the church, and some fans are the witch-burning hordes. Some people simply won’t look thru the telescope and see those other teams in the NFL universe who SOMEHOW manage to defy gravity and score TDs in the 1st qtr. Main reason we won last wk is ’cause we scored 2 TDs in the 1st half — talk about Thanksgiving! In this context, I’m grateful to see even Ira admit our 1st-qtr scoring is awful. But Ira, if you wanna isolate 2 plays like that, you could also say that, say, if you change 5 plays last yr we go 6-10. I admire your creativity in working up optimism but you really can’t look at it that way, a game is a collection of many plays, including those in the 1st qtr and during 1st-half 2-minute drills.

  23. By GaryC on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    stop playing games, if you need MOORE,then you need LESS OF SHOTT,say goodbye to shott and bring in a true coordinator where sanchez isn’t looking at three different guys to get his information from.

  24. By IRA on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    Last post for today the Jets must win the TO battle this week. 4 out of the 5 losses they lost the TO battle. The only game they were +1 was in NE. The 6 wins they have they were + in 5 and even vs SD.

  25. By wayne on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    Karan, he’s got a mancrush…………………….Rex gushes about Tom Moore every time he speaks of him…………………They gave present OC a contract extension last year. But that is norm. NFL don’t like lameduck.coaches at primary spots. OC was give the proverbial vote of approval last year………Now all that has to happen is………………………………………………………………………..Well, you know.

  26. By ronald t prevete on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    In my opinion Rex got the job in part because he agreed to keep Schotty as the OC. Maybe he told Mr. T he had no desire to bring in his own guy. Who knows? However the offense needs help not contract extensions for coaches. START IN THE TWO MINUTE DRILL. Use some urgency. Change something. Use Vlad as a blocking TE.
    GO JETS!!!

  27. By Hans on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    I wanna see Callahan calling the shots myself

  28. By russ on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    Washington will have an intense pass rush similar to Ravens…

  29. By scjoe on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    Spicer, I would have to agree that starting McKnight (not LT) is the way to go hands down. You bring Greene in to spell him and bring LT in on 3rd down and some other specific plays designed just for him. McKnight is the only viable option back there who can actually get to the outside and it is time to see if he can be the featured back or start shopping for someone who can be. I hate to beat a dead horse, but once again it comes down to politics, they moved up to the top of the 3rd round to select Greene so that tells you all you need to know.

  30. By scjoe on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    Spicer, I honestly believe that Holmes and Keller have been there long enough to dismiss the chemistry issue. I also believe that whole “chemistry” issue is blown out of proportion some times. If your throws are where they need to be, instead of way behind or way in front of that receiver you will get the result intended. As for the protection, like it or not, many of those sacks could have, and should have been avoided by the QB. It is simply a matter of not having the pocket presence needed to play in this league. As for the RBs? I would tend to agree with you on that front.

  31. By scjoe on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    Ira, the first quarter scoring, or lack there of, is not a “huge” problem it is a critical problem. I simply blows my mind how those first quarter stats over the past two seasons can even be remotely true. But they are. You have continuously defended both the QB and the OC, don’t you believe that at least one of them, possibly both are the culprits for that unbelievable feat? Sure other factors may have contributed from time to time, but the OC and the QB have to be right there in the fore front.

  32. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    Bravo, scjoe, the plain and simple answer to Spicer’s relentless talk of all these things allegedly holding Sanchez back is he throws just as badly sometimes when the protection is perfect, the WR is 2 yds away, the guy’s wide open, etc. ad nauseum. That’s one plain and simple answer, anyway, his slow learning curve on pocket presence, as you’ve been stressing, is another. I don’t know who Spicer thinks he’s talking to about these folks who think MS is the problem. We have a lot of problems. MS is just probably the biggest and most expensive one, and the one on which Rex has been putting the most pressure since Day One. I’d like to see Woody and Mr T put a little pressure on Rex to learn something about offense in pro football post-1966.

  33. By GaryC on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    do fans really believe moore wants to be a offensive coordinator again,and start all over with a developing quarterback,he left manning,wayne and garcon and addai, the guy wants to retire, thats why he doesn’t come to the complex that much, stop dragging the guy out if his heart isn’t in it,go to green bay and see who is learning under Mccarthy or the saints under payton,that is where you will get your next offensive coordinator,of course, if it isn’t Fassel.

  34. By cgb on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    It does make a difference losing braylon and cotchery. By losing those two players you now bring in plax,mason and have to play a rookie kerley. You need to learn the offense plays, route pattern, timing with the qb different players with different skill sets now your changing the plays we call to accomodate players style. the overall chemistry with the qb needs to be re-established. If you signed braylon and cotchery and did not sign mason you would have a receiving corp. of braylon,cotchery, plax, holmes. throw in keller and kerley thats pretty good.I t should not matter now but you could see the struggle the passing game had in the begining of the year.

  35. By cgb on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    As far as the running game is concened the o-line needs to be studs and block. Again its not about one rb in this type of offense. Both greene and mcnight can share reps, both have complimenting style, and bring a different skill set to keep opposing D-fense off balance. Throw in LT, some runs with smaller speedy wr such as kerly and holmes. Thats your running game.

  36. By davetharave on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    If it takes until the last 2 minutes of Sunday’s game to beat the Redskins (in other words, if we all have another cardiac episode) then all will have to admit that even if a miracle occurs and we make the playoffs we’re not going anywhere beyond. When a team like the Redskins is on your schedule this late in the season you have to move in, take control early, dominate the entire game and finish strong. If even one of these is lacking on Sunday then it’s time to face facts.

  37. By Chicago Bob on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    It is just mind boggling to try and make sense out of the Jets move to extend Schotty last year. He was no longer considered a hot commodity for a head coaching position so why the urgency to lock him up? I’ve heard the Jets offensive playbook is 3″ thick – a playbook that large for a team that wants to “ground & pound” it – I don’t get it – how about the old saying K.I.S.S (keep it simple stupid). This offense has been stuck in neutral regardless of the players brought in. Even if you want to believe it is not Schotty’s fault, the fact is it is his offense and it ain’t working and really hasn’t shown any consistency since he arrived. If you read a lot of football publications, you will see more and more NFL people feel the same way.

  38. By scjoe on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    cgb, Dalton in Cinn seems to be doing a pretty good job as a rookie with all new WRs one of them being a rookie himself. Why is it only Sanchez that needs that “chemistry”?

  39. By scjoe on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    64, you are right, Mark Sanchez is not the “only” problem holding this team back, just a big part of it. If I had to put them in any one order I would say 1-QB, 2-OC, 3-Pass rush (or lack there of) 4-Play of the safeties, 5-Inconsistincy along the O Line, 6- Inconsistincy in the play of the linebackers, 7- The RB position. So, as you can see the problems are many, some more critical then others, but many. Factor in the philosphy of the front office and the coaching staff at times and there is some work that needs to be done.

  40. By Another Tom on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    For whaever reason[s] our receivers never seem to be wide open..and MS continually tries to force passes into double and triple coverage. He has to realize that He doesnt have the arm to do that..most completions seem to be circus type catches with very little yards after the catch..which is huge. Many NFL offenes seems to have WR’s running wide open all over the field…not sure why we struggle with our routes..

  41. By Tom Spicer on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    I would like to take a stab at the same thing 1 O line 2 running back 3 OC 4 WR 5 QB. As they have said on NFL network where are the playmakers on the Jet O? Besides Holmes who is a playmaker?

  42. By Chicago Bob on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    Thanks Another Tom – I thought I was the only one who felt that way. Week in and week out, you watch other teams play and regardless of their talent, they do have receivers wide open if only occasionally yet Jets receivers (regardless of how good they are), never seem to get wide open. You saw the Patriot receivers open constantly against us and when you put both groups against one another, other than Hernandez, they really have no one special. Granted, they have an outstanding QB however it makes you wonder about the scheme and the patterns our receivers run – they just don’t seem to fool any defenses.

  43. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    Another Tom and Chicago Bob, I agree with a lot of what you say but you must be watching different games than I am. Just a few weeks ago the guys I watch the Jets with, a lot of whom are film/TV/video guys, were starting to joke about how the directors on the games were loving those shots of Holmes, Plax, Keller, and Kerley standing around 10 and 20 yds away from the nearest defender while Sanchez is staring down Greene over the middle for 2 yds. Eventually we’ll get to the pt where there’s a general agreement that MS is our only really good player and everyone else must go. But if you talk to people outside of NYC — players, fans, professional football people — a lot of ‘em (and most players in polls) think MS is an overrated bust.

  44. By Howie D on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    I’m longing for some relaxed entertainment, a game without palpitations. Could this be that game?

  45. By joe on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    LOL GUYS running backs running the ball that stuff is WAY SECONDARY in the NFL TODAYS AS BEST TWO BACKS play on ViKes and Titans .Last time i checked GB NE NO (all the elite )got there because of their QB WR PLAY .(THEY COULD CARE LESS about est the run )

  46. By joe on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    Guys viewing the entire debacle going on here is it the coaching or overall lack of elite talent brought about by absolute terrible drafting the past few years.Defence for example other than Revis we are average at best (no one near pro bowl status )On offence because of the qb play cant truely evaluate the wrs (can tell you this HOLMES was alot more dangerious with Rothesburger than MS )rbs are average line is also average

  47. By cgb on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    scjoe dalton is playing extremely well for a rookie, he is also out performing some good nfl veteran qb’s. mark’s and daltons stats are virtually identical with a little higher completion percenage going to dalton while mark has thrown more td’s. the reason i believe dalton is having such a good year is the play of the cincy o-line. The cincy D is also out playing the jetsv D. thats mainly the difference in the W-L record of both teams. I dont want this to sound like an excuse the jets offensively have not played well, and yes part of that is mark.

  48. By Westcoast GangGreen on Dec 3, 2011 | Reply

    Jet Nation, Just watch the game have a cold one, and enjoy the damm game.!! Randy i don’t know how you do it. Posting all these same repetitive comments over , over and over. Sanchez this , o’ line that, Rex said this , Schotty *****, blah blah blah. You have the toughest job Randy’s Radar.. GO J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  49. By joe on Dec 3, 2011 | Reply

    Whe that people dont realiZE is that the OFFECE and DEFENCE philosophy a team runs is ENTIRELY PREDICATED upon the talent in personal it has ,You got a BRADY GRONKOWSKI,WELKER on you waste them trying to est the run.Same thing on D if you have a Harrison Woodly Polumu a guy like LeBeu can use them in D fences alot of teams cant run

  50. By Tom Spicer on Dec 4, 2011 | Reply

    CGB, To add to your point if you add Marks rushing TDS he has WAY more than Dalton. Mark has more yards, less picks & way more TDS. The onlt thing Dalton is doing better is completion percentage. Dalton also has a great running game with Benson & a good O line NEITHER of which Mark has.

  51. By Tom Spicer on Dec 4, 2011 | Reply

    Tom 64, That means alot of those guys dont know what they are talking about. How can guy have 30 TDS in a year (at the end of the year) & be a bust with NO O line & no running game?

  52. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 4, 2011 | Reply

    Spicer, cut it out, Sanchez had probably the best running game and OL in the NFL for his 1st 2 yrs and still had plenty awful starts, awful picks, and awful games. Stop with the rushing TDs — as if anyone ever has to pt out how many of those Brady or Ben R. or Manning ever have. And start listening to the analysts on TV who are ex-players, who practically have to suppress laughter in commenting on the way MS is overrated to date by Rex, the NYC press, and people like you. MS leads the NFL in turnovers for TDs, the most damning stat there is. He has the worst 1st-qtr record for putting pts on the board in Jets history. Anyone who thinks paying $50 mil to a guy with those 2 stats alone is a move beyond ongoing review is unreasonably biased.

  53. By joe on Dec 4, 2011 | Reply

    LOL hes not a bust but an average qb ( no matter the running game or ol )hes no where near elite .If we plan on winning the super bowl you must be elite .Out of curositY how come the Saints ,Pats and Packers dont find it necc to est the run.

  54. By joe on Dec 4, 2011 | Reply

    ALSO the fact that we need to make EXCUSES in comparing a ROOKIE QB (Dalton )with a 3rd year plus guy tells it all

  55. By joe on Dec 4, 2011 | Reply

    NFL Network aired a show last night .TWO WORST rushing attacks in FOOTBALL= THE PACKERS and PATS .They also have the two worst Defences in football .No one seems to care though because there like 20-2 combined.This is the NFL TODAY not 20 years ago.

  56. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 4, 2011 | Reply

    I thought the same thing, joe, here are guys like Spicer and now, for some weird reason, the usually much more level-headed GaryC furiously insisting that Dalton isn’t as good as Sanchez, as if there’s any reason he should be in his rookie year…

  57. By SJW on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Why does Sanchez continue to throw at Keller even when he is not open? Are they BFFs or something?

  58. By joe on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Fan Since 64 Tom let me tell you I watched that Giant Game Yest now that kid Rogers is a QB .The Giants have a good D (GREAT D LINE) Tom he spread them out and went to town 60 yards in 50 seconds .Tom my business partner and his brother (as many guys i lived with in the early 90s)played in the league .Interesting observation no one ever brings up in defending the spread offence =FATIGUE after a few quarters (no matter the shape your in )impossible to defend when you got the right guy back there.

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