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Rex’s Sunday Offensive Contribution: Return of the ‘Cat

Posted by Randy Lange on December 5, 2011 – 3:22 pm

Several wrinkles went into the Jets’ necessary Sunday triumph over the Redskins. Some were familiar friends such as another Mark Sanchez fourth-quarter rally and Santonio Holmes game-winning grab and another strong defensive rebound after giving up 10 points on their first two series.

One was a long-lost relative we hadn’t seen for a while: the Wildcat.

“I think it’s tough to defend some of that if you’re not really focused on it,” head coach Rex Ryan said today in a conference call with reporters. “This was a good team, really good against the run, and we thought we could challenge them by putting in some of those things. That was my feeling on it and Schotty said, ‘Yeah, that sounds like a great idea, let’s go for it” and Bill Callahan did a good job putting in the blocking schemes for it. I thought it was successful.”

Ryan, a defensive coach born and bred, downplayed the idea that he contributed a main component of the offensive game plan to coordinator Brian Schottenheimer.

“We’re just trying to help. We’re all on the same page. If there’s something I see that might be decent for us, whether it’s a play or something like that, we’ll mention it,” he said. “We’ll have our defensive coaches sometimes come up with suggestions for the offense and vice versa. We don’t care where we get it from — even though I wanted credit after the touchdown … no, I’m kidding.”

The TD in question was Shonn Greene’s second scoring run to make it 27-16, coming with 3:42 to play, two plays after the Aaron Maybin/Calvin Pace strip sack and recovery against Rex Grossman 9 yards from a big shovelful of paydirt on the Redskins’ grave for this game.

It was the seventh and last direct snap of the game and it was the most successful of the bunch. On the first six ‘Cats, three snaps went to Greene, two to Jeremy Kerley and one to LaDainian Tomlinson, the Jets gained only 17 yards and no first downs. But three of them were used on the Jets’ first opening-drive TD in 10 games, which also was their longest scoring drive of the season in plays (17) and time (9:06).

And LT’s 5-yard gain was the play immediately preceding the dam-breaker, Sanchez’s and Holmes’ 30-yard pump-fake Sluggo (slant-and-go) TD play that gave the Jets’ their first lead at 20-16 with 4:49 to play.

So it’s hard to say definitively that the Wildcat turned the tide for the Green & White, but perhaps it worked just enough for things to loosen up when they did. But after Brad Smith ran the TurDucKen, er, the Wildcat/Seminole/Tiger more than 35 times last year, often to great effect, and after Ryan and Schottenheimer talked about working Tomlinson and Kerley into that role this preseason, the Jets may have called for the ‘Cat maybe twice in the first 11 games?

And considering the lack of use of the formation for most of the year, perhaps it will go back in mothballs for the final four-game push toward the playoffs. But it was a good example of the Jets coaches’ and players’ reliance on one another now that there’s no more wiggle left in the room they’ve left for themselves.

“We all want the same thing. We built this team, Mike Tannenbaum and myself and everybody else, on respect, about building people up. That’s who we are,” Ryan said. “We have a great deal of confidence in the people we have in this building. When we pull in the same direction, we’re tough to beat, no doubt about it. Are we perfect? No. Green Bay’s got a perfect record but even they’re not perfect. We recognize that. But we’ve just got to be true to ourselves and stay the course. We know what works for us and that’s basically what we do.”

Injury Issues

Ryan gave an early preview of the injury questions that could be facing the Jets this week as they attempt to get to 8-5 at MetLife Stadium against the Chiefs on Sunday.

Tomlinson came away with his aggravated knee, but he did return to the game after twisting the knee on the Redskins sideline.

“I thought he got hurt because of a horsecollar tackle,” Ryan said, “but really, when he was getting up, he slipped on that little carpet or whatever they put on the sideline. He kind of slipped. I think he’ll be OK.

“He was able to finish, did a great job protecting the quarterback on third down. … In typical LT fashion, he said, ‘I can block. I’ll be fine.’ Here’s one of the greatest running backs in the history of the game — ‘I’ll go in and block.’ “

Joe McKnight was limited due to a hyperextended elbow. Ryan wasn’t sure today about the MRI results. “We’ll see how it is,” the coach said. “I probably don’t anticipate him practicing Wednesday. His status for the game, I’m not sure.”

And DT Mike DeVito, who sat out with his new knee injury, “was out jogging today” at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center, Ryan said. “I think his status is probably uncertain. I know DeVito’s going to do whatever he can to get back and play.”

In Search of Happier Returns

Ryan said that Kerley, who suffered his third punt fumble of the season, his second muff and his first lost fumble late in the second quarter, was at the complex today fielding punts. The coach is impressed with his rookie’s work habits and his athleticism, but that may not prevent him and ST coordinator Mike Westhoff from turning to Jim Leonhard in that role down the home stretch.

“I feel really comfortable with having Jim Leonhard back there,” Ryan said. “I know Westy and I feel the same way. I think that’s how we’re going to go.”

Mighty Red Zone Machine

RZ juggernaut might be overdoing it, but the Jets, with their two TDs in two opportunities vs. the ‘Skins, are now the No. 1 red zone offense in the NFL.

Sanchez and the Jets have now converted seven consecutive drives inside the opponents’ 20 into touchdowns — their longest streak since the end of the 2002 season, when they went 9-for-9 — and are 25-for-37 on the season, a 67.6 TD-drive percentage that tops No. 2 Tennessee (18-for-27, 66.7 percent) and No. 3 New England (35-for-53, 66.0 percent). And it is likely the Jets will retain the top spot once San Diego and Jacksonville are finished tonight and Week 13 is in the books.

The Jets are also 6-for-6 in their last two games, the first time they’ve been 6-for-6 or better in back-to-back games since the start of the 1993 season.

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58 Responses to “Rex’s Sunday Offensive Contribution: Return of the ‘Cat”

  1. By russ on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    good game to watch at end ….long way to go though

  2. By Frank on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Really Rex you made the call for the return of the Wildcat? good job on that one. Were you the one who also dialed up Ellis to play DE? Really? he was awful and the major reason the Skins marched down the field on their first possession. Glad you played Maybin the last few weeks he sure makes your defense better why did you keep him out during our losing streak? when we weren’t getting to the QB? we sure could have used him…vs the Pats at home I know he missed a sack on Brady one time but you buried him on the bench after that…now you want to bench Kerley? seriously???? This kid the Jets best draft pick this year and only you want to muck it up…unreal! You are clueless when it comes to your personel.

  3. By scjoe on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    This may rattle a few feathers, but I would love to see Maybin and Westerman starting at the OLB position and Harris and Mauga inside. I am aware of the rotation and I am aware Rex “says” everybody is a starter. But for an immediate upgrade in both the pass rush and in coverage I think that lineup should be the “base” lineup and use the rotation as needed, not to mention the infusion of youth. As for the D line, I think the future is Ropati and Wilkerson at DE and Ellis at the NT is the future. That is not to take anything away from Pouha or Devito, I am a fan of both. Now, if we could only do something about the safeties.

  4. By IRA on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Even though the Jets’ offense still does not look like a well oiled machine they have done a great job this year improving their RZ offense like Randy wrote.
    The last time a Jet RB ran for 3 TD’s was TJ back in 08.
    Looking ahead to this week take care of the Chiefs and really hope teams lose that we need to jump ahead of.
    BTW Dixon i thought stepped in and played well yesterday too.
    GO JETS!!!!

  5. By Karan on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    I think it’s awesome we are now the no.1 red zone offense in the NFL, for that, I thank Tom Moore and of course the players who actually make it possible.

  6. By SCfromNY on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Here’s a thought. Have the Jets suit up and play 3 quarters in the parking lot against a high school team. Then they start the real game thinking it is the fourth quarter.

  7. By Karan on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    And one more thing, I seriously think getting into the playoffs for us will come on the last week of the regular season. I think if Baltimore beats Cincinnati and we beat Miami that day, we are in as the 6th seed.I’m confident Tim and the Broncos (that kid is a winner along with ours) will win their division, so we shall not worry about that.I do think Raiders and Titans hit bumps down the road and Cincinnati’s schedule along with ours is favorable. I hate to say it, but I’m just being realistic here, I see us going 10-6 instead of 11-5 and I think we might lose to the Giants on the remaining schedule.But let’s see what happens, for now, I’m saying last game: win it and we’re in it. 6th seed will come down to the Bengals and Jets. Go JETS!!

  8. By logan on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Let me get this right, your running full speed towards the end zone to score with highly trained, huge, fast guys chasing you that are going to try and take your head off and you are supposed to STOP AND TAKE A KNEE at the one yard line?????!!! Some times Ryan makes me feel like I’m in the Twilight Zone

  9. By joe on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Lets keep it real they have not one a game against a team with a winning record all year.In all reality they may get in THEN WHAT .BRADY ,ROTHESBURGER ,BREES or Rogers instead of Grossman ect .Come on now

  10. By GaryC on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    like I stated early in the week, you have ellis coming off a bad ankle and you put him at defensive end,where he needs to run more, smart move,THE WILDCAT LIVES,which one of our erstwhile posters had predicted when Brad Smith left would be put into mothballs,Oh, well would rather have the original then these guys who are pretending now.I can’t wait to see when Kerley or Greene start doing some reverses out of the wildcat,where there handing off, that will be interesting.

  11. By GaryC on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Rex suggesting offensive plays, please not until where eliminated,I thought the jokes ended April 1.I could see it know, Sanchez split left, holmes in slot to the left,kerley behind center and greene full back, and mcknight and powell as the right and left halfback and we run the wishbone.

  12. By Frank on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Ira Dixon has played well all season so has Pouha and Devito when not hurt. Wilkerson is doing well not great…Ellis is a bust at this point the line suffers greatly when he is in the game. I hated the pick we should have traded up for a better player like Brooks
    SCJoe why on earth would you want Maybin at OLB? His strength is rushing the passer and that is were he belongs. Pettine was moving him around the line yesterday and that is what they should continue to do… move him around and have him coimng from all angles so they can’t double him up. Speaking of Maybin I really hope he is signed past this year and if he isn’t they better lock him up soon. We haven’t had a pass rusher like him since Abraham and it would be a shame to lose him

  13. By GaryC on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    people already calling Ellis a bust, I would not go that far, remember I said it would take some time with players out of the MEAC conference,by the way how is PHIL TAYLOR doing who everyone also wanted at draft time,Browns any different with him.

  14. By Jersey Joe on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Gadget plays are cute but everyone here knows what broke the Skins back was the Sanchez (down-field) pas to Holmes. If Jets could ever figure out that teams in this league will continue to load 9 guys up in the box and instruct the DB’s to jump all over those slants – until Jets complete some deep balls! Or at least throw em! They need to max protect and launch at least one maybe two deep passes per quarter. This week the Jets should clown KC – they are starting Gwyneth Paltrow at QB! For me this season is – RUN the Table and build steady momentum for a potential playoff run – there are 3 teams with losing records, 2, KC and Philly are ready to pack it in for the year – Giants are always tough, maybe Dallas will eliminate em

  15. By Jersey Joe on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    The Fins are actually playing good football right now – they could put a dagger in the Jets with a win down there – this couching staff has to figure out how to defend the growing number of big fast athletic Tight ends out there. If we don’t have the answer on the roster now – we’ll have to put a 6’3 safety with cover skills or a fast cover linebacker on the shopping list this spring – GO JETS

  16. By scjoe on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Frank, Maybin IS an OLB. and that is where the pass rush begins, further, you can’t move him around very much if he is not on the field, that is my point. Him and westerman are the only people we have with anything that resembles speed in the front seven. I know both need work in coverage, but they wont get that on the bench.

  17. By Jimmer on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Frank, get a grip. Playing rookies is to get them time against the big boys, so they know what they’re gonna be up against! There was no offseason this year, Rex is doing the right thing. Pouha rarely got time as a rookie, now he’s borderline probowl!
    scjoe, I would be with you until yesterday. We finally had a B.Scott sighting on defense. Mauga is just not ready for full time. Neither is Ripoti.

  18. By scjoe on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Joe, actually Buffalo had a winning record in game #1and although they beat Dallas in the first game of the season they are a first place team with a winning record now. But I do get your point, it does always seem the Jets play up, AND down to the competition.

  19. By Jimmer on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    GaryC, please understand, our opponents have to spend hours on those plays. We only need 15minutes. The more they look at wildcat, the less they look at our putrid regular offense.

  20. By Tom Spicer on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Frank, Maybin is 228 pounds he could never play end in a 3-4 these guys have to be 280 to 315 pounds. If you are implying that we move to a 4-3 he may not even have the size for that. In our D he is a pass rushing OLB.

  21. By Tom Spicer on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Frank, Also Ellis played well a few weeks ago before he hurt his ankle I think he started a game & had 3 tackles for no gain or a loss. The problem with yesterday was Rex played him at end. You can not play a 350 pound guy at end & think he can keep contanment. He is a interior D lineman DT OR NT depending on what type of D you are running. Rex should have played him at NT & moved Pouha to DE. Pohua has played there before & would have done well.

  22. By Tom Spicer on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    SCJoe, I agree with everything you are saying Maybin & Westerman should start ar OLB they are the only 2 guys on the team who can rush the passer. We need to play them not just to generate a pass rush but also to see if they can stop the run & be full time starters in those spots (both of them are light in the butt). Thomas probably will not be back & even thou Pace is a good player he is not the pass rusher we thought he was going to be. We need to know if we need to address that spot in free agencty or the draft. I am keeping Scott at MLB to me Maybin & Westerman have proved they can play Mauga not so much.

  23. By Tom Spicer on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    As far as the D line Ellis is the only true size NT we have on the roster he is our future nose tackle. I think the ends should be Pouha & Wilkerson. Then on passing downs bring in Rapolti & Dixon to replace Pouha & Ellis they both bring some pass rush to the table. If either end goes down Devito can step in that spot.

  24. By Hans on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Frank, Ellis isn’t being used in the spot where he was NEEDED, being NT. Pouha should have been moved to the outside so that Ellis can play to his strength. THEN we can determine if he’s a bust or not.

  25. By IRA on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Frank, Please calm down and chill. Ellis came from a small proagram and was a work in progress. nobody who thought he was going to step in and be W. Saap or KJ from day one is blind. Give him time and a year in a regular offseason and i go on the record and say he will be a productive if not very good player next year.
    Karan, You are sleeping on Tenn. Just for the sake of it say they lose to the Saints this week and then finish 10-6. Guess what if we are the same we lose tiebreakers to them. Say they beat the Saints and finish 11-5 tied with us we lose tiebreakers again. They had better lose this week or then we really need a miracle. C. Johnson is back at full speed and thats why they are winning.

  26. By IRA on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Frank they are not going to lose Maybin. He will be resigned at the end of the year or maybe even before FA starts. He will never hit the open market.
    One thing that really bothers me is that i am thrilled that they have made such strides in getting better in the RZ. But yet the offense just hasn’t jelled all season and has looked disfunctional at times. Too many personnel changes with not offseason is the only thing i can point to.

  27. By Frank on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Guys my point is I hated the Ellis pick we already have interior studs in Pouha, Devito and Dixon we need ouitside SPEED! and that is what we should have gone after in the draft. Ellis is a major drop off and not the help we needed!
    As for Maybin the Bills tried to convert him to OLB and it failed miserably!!!!!!!
    He is a pure pass rusher plain and simple he is not a drop back or containment guy on running plays. What is it with you guys? He has played with his hand on the ground the entire season and excelling that way!

  28. By Frank on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Ira are you serious about the Offense? It all starts and ends with Sanchise-Not. The offense has been inconsistant and so has the QB. Also a major reason is Rex getting involved and saying Sanchise-Not was an elite QB and would be throwing our way to the SB and that was a huge mistake. You have Rex making a radical offensive philosophy change with no offseason to work on it. You have Moore coming in to help and then of course you have Cavanaugh and Shotty leading to too many hands in the pie turning the O into slop and losing its identity. For all you guys calling for Shotty to have Sanchise-Not go deep more often…we tried that and he becomes a turnover machine!!!!!!! He is a 56% passer in a short passing game! Sanchez is a game manager

  29. By sal on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    The Cat. I always thought this was to help a a rookie QB make the change to the pros, or the QB didnt play a a tradional QB in collage, or because he is Mike Vick (early version) Sanchez is in his 3rd season, I know they keep picking his offense apart during the off season, so maybe its not the kids fault, either way I cant watch this team anymore listen to the same stuff every week, what piece will be missing from this teem 5 weeks from now1. What is the direction of the team, I dont know anymore, ground and pound ? air attack ? Defense ? what do they do real good Coaching? special teams? (You have Revis ducking a tackle on a QB), a great secondary?

  30. By logan on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Maybin didn’t start during that bad streak because he is not considered a run stopper due to his size relative to his postion. Ryan has used him effectively as a third down pass rusher and now has started to move him around. Like I said he has to come in next year with 10-15 pounds or more muscle, thats why the have strength coaches, then he will get more playing time and if he doesn’t revert to his Buffalo attitude should be a great addition to the team

  31. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Ellis at NT is definitely the way to go and yeah, you can’t expect the guy to be a star at this point, especially when he’s mostly been inactive. Good instincts on TEN, Ira, they’re a lot better than last yr and Hasselbeck is underrated as a QB. He played for a bad team for so long that people started to think he was the big problem, which he wasn’t.

  32. By logan on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    I think Rex has done a great job as head coach. That being said this stuff about making a “suggestion” to the offensive co. is ridiculous if you are the head coach you run the team. You take chargte of everything you don’t make suggestions. You think Belicheck makes suggestions, no he runs the offense just like the defense. Schotty has been in the league for a long time and there is a reason he is not head coach, you have to tell him what to do

  33. By Deep on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Next year we need to go draft a Safety in the first round who can cover TE’s. make me sick how TE’s just be killing our D.If not a safety a pass rushing OLB on the other side of maybin. You will have maybin on 1 side and another pass rusher on the other side. Eric smith needs to go, i liked him but he can’t cover anyone. I don’t know why pool don’t get more time. I love the heart jim leanard has but he is 5’8 and the TE’s are like 6’5. he can’t cover them. we need to draft a RT in like the 3rd round cuz i don’t know bout wayne hunter. Hope fully we don’t release B. moore next year trying to save money, we got luck at LG wit matt Slauson he came in took the bull by the horn.

  34. By Gregory Beaumont on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Isn’t this just what I said last week.
    More trick plays – Those wildcat plays worked well.
    Passes over 30 yards – The drop in to Plax on the run.

    Now let’s keep it up!! Don’t go back to ground and pound conservative football.

    Blow it open and keep the winning going.

  35. By IRA on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Frank, I said it from august this team changed their approach on offense and it was a mistake. They now run the ball 42% of the time and pass 58 % of the time. back in 09 it wqas 60/40 the other way. They should’ve stayed with that philosophy. Big mistake on their part. It also would’ve kept the D off the field more and they would be fresher and more effective.

  36. By 1986 on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Ellis will be a star in the future but we need players to impact now .I dont like how any of our young talent is playing from J.kerley an Mckinght who have both stood out as fumblers to Shawn Green who has not played up to his capabilty . Holmes ,Plax ,keller an LT are all we have on offense we should be looking for better ways to get those guys the ball instead of running the wildcat with kerly ,mcknight an green the cat looks shaky i rather a lot more plays for holmes

  37. By GaryC on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    It seemed like only yesterday that Ellis and Wilkerson were going to be the new Mean Joe Greene and L.C. Greenwood,It was going to be like Godzilla ravaging Tokyo,relax we will know soon enough about Wilkerson and Ellis,but the track record lately with rex and tanny is not to promising.that is who the jets should bring in, mean joe greene, someone who knows the position, unless he is already on a coaching staff,I believe he is.

  38. By joe on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Rex had done fantastic as a head coach.Lets count the superbowl victorys in three years NONE Lets count the AFC championships in three years NONE Lets count the Division Championships in three years NONE.Lets Count the promises hes has made to win all the above =MORE THAN YOU CAN SHAKE A STICK AT .

  39. By GaryC on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    the top three wide receivers on this team are two smurfs and a ancient mariner.Unless we upgrade their nothing else will matter, jet fan tom, that one handed catch by holmes is done every week by others, Dallas Clark does that every week with the colts,don’t make the catch bigger than it seemed.

  40. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    logan, my view now — not always heard here as Randy doesn’t seem to approve of how I express it at times, which is understandable — is that Rex is more of a cheerleader and an entertainer than a HC. He knows a lot about D, little about O, and relies on strong and skilled coaches (Callahan, Westhoff) or sometimes just those who for some reason seem untouchable (Schotty). I suspect other coaches like Ellard are not being heard loudly enough. Deep, as I’ve been saying for wks, the draft order goes S, OL, LB, WR, then repeat, maybe with RB instead of WR on the 8th pick. While I think we have 9 picks we could use a few more and I’d be fine with trading some underachieving vets in order to get them. Ira, we need to throw more, we just can’t.

  41. By scjoe on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Ira, I think the reason they changed their approach is because they finally figured out that the strength of this offense is in the passing game, by that I mean the WRs and the TE, not the RBs. Fact is there is not a “quality” starting RB among the bunch, all are great change of pace guys who can come in and spell that “dynamic” back which we do not have. Lets be honest, all of the RBs on this roster have their flaws, whether that be ball security, injury prone, or just being to one dimensional, I think a dynamic RB would be the fastest way to get this offense up and running, because God knows it is not right now.

  42. By Howie D on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Logan’s right about Rex telling Schotty what to do. Jersey Joe’s also right about Sanchez’ downfield backbreaker. This game has become too specialized where even the HC has to yield to his assistants. That’s why it seems more complicated than it really is. Hell no! The HC should have full dictatorial power to inject his will at anytime. This stuff about a HC being more D or O minded is silly. A HC should be an expert at all positions. I doubt seriously if Buddy Ryan would allow Schotty to call plays, he’d either punch him in the mouth or fire him.

  43. By Howie D on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    I disagree with Rex’s announced strategy to have Loeonard fair-catch punts. Our returners are better than average. They’re simply having confidence issues. You don’t correct the problem by hiding from it. The way to solve the problem is to let them face the issue head on and get over it. If they’re bad returners, I’d say yes, let’s be cautious, but they’ve demonstrated that they can change games. Put them in there (McNight, Kerley, Cro) and let’s work our way through this. We’re at an aggressive stage of the season, playing conservative isn’t the way to go. One TD return will be tremendous for the entire team.

  44. By Jimmer on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Deep, I’ll take it a step further. How about we draft a Safety and a LB who can cover a decent TE? We need help on the OL as well. But drafting a single guy at a single position to cover TE’s just won’t cut it. We have nothing but specialists on defense now. We need to start drafting guys that can do more than 1 thing.

  45. By joe on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    PS you want to check out FANTASTIC head coaches compare the achievements-records ect of Paytom ,McCarthy and Tomlin over the past 3 years with our REX Saying Rex is a fantastic coach is like someone proclaiming themselves the worlds tallest midget in a height contest.

  46. By joe on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Guys we can speculate,debate vent ect over things like offencives skemes ,defencive skemes (slants ,downfields verses 9 in the box )draft pickes (past and future )and the only thing were doing is conversing over DECK CABINS ON THE TITANTIC.In todays NFL only one thing is certain =UNLESS YOU HAVE GOT AN ELITE QB ALL OF THE ABOVE IS MEANINGLESS.Untill we get someone in here as good as Brees ,Rothesburger Brady and Rogers we will never win the Superbowl.

  47. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    scjoe, brilliant on the RBs. Howie D, brilliant on the punt and kick returners. GaryC, not so brilliant on Holmes’ one-handed catch. He did indeed make it with ease but we’ve had plenty of guys who couldn’t consistently make that catch. Again, some Jet fans have gotten so used to Sanchez’s too high/low/ahead/behind passes that they’ve decided it’s the WR’s fault for not catching every ball no matter how badly thrown. Hey, QB, WR, and DB were my positions so I watch that stuff with a very critical eye. I had coaches who said things like “If you can see the WR, you can get him the ball in the right place” or “If you can touch it, you can catch it.” But you can’t even touch it if it’s wherever the heck MS was throwing on that pass to Keller!

  48. By Kevin65Fan on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Howie D you are so wrong saying HC is either more Defense or offense is silly…well have a look around the league. Most head coaches are either defensive type or offensive. Look at the all the coaches that are “offensive” because they still call the plays…maybe not the greatest as our offensive OC…really offensive. and usually those HC’s that call the offense has a strong defensive coordinator and vice versa on those HC’s that are defensive have a strong OC…except us. So 64 Tom…why should Rex be involved with the Offense…he is better suited on defense…but unfortunatly too much is given to (power in calling plays) Schotty. Saints, Chiefs, Cowboys, Chargers, Houston HC that call offense to name a few…

  49. By 1986 on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    the wild cat stinks throw the dam ball

  50. By Tom Spicer on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    Joe, Then why even play the games. Everyone without a elite QB just quit now & just let the teams with elite QB’S battle it out. CMON MAN!

  51. By Tom Spicer on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    Tom 64, SCJoe makes a point about our running backs & you say that point is brilliant. I made the same point on other posts & your response is I am just making up excuses for our QB? What gives!

  52. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    You answered your own question, Kevin, Rex should be more involved on O so that he doesn’t have to give too much power in calling plays to Schotty. That’s just one reason, there are others such as so he breaks his habit of asking almost everything of the D and not that much of the O. 1986, I couldn’t put it better than those seven words, any team that’s afraid to throw the ball in today’s NFL ain’t goin’ very far. As for scolding Greene for not taking a knee, that stuff has gone way too far and this is the most ridiculous example I’ve seen of it. As Herm so famously said, “HELLO, YOU’RE TRYING TO WIN THE GAME!” and you do that by scoring pts, not by fearing fumbles, fearing your D won’t be able to stop a 70-yd drive, or any of that jive.

  53. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    Maybe I was just trying to spread the brilliance around equally, Spice, I already told you that I thought your 7 or 8-step analysis of why we don’t throw deep better was brilliant. I DO have to get off the site and get SOME work done everyday, y’know. But actually, I just finished posting on the story ahead of this one that for my money you just posted your greatest sentence ever — “We have to get this O to the point where we can win a shootout if need be” — so don’t say I never gave you any major props.

  54. By joe on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    Tom(Spicer )we all must deal with reality here.Do thinks its just some crazy coinsidence that BASICALLY EVERY SUPER BOWL WINNER THE PAST 10 YEARS HAS HAD AN ELITE QB.

  55. By joe on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    lol as Jet fans we all ignore the obvious and then make excuses for the past 40 years

  56. By joe on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    Tom (Spicer )if you want well make a gentlemans bet on what happens IF they get in an face the elite qbs.

  57. By joe on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    IF memory serves me correct and past history is any indication we played one team 2x this year with an Elite QB thst being Tom Brady.As i recall our play against him this year is now serving as an all time Patriot highlight film

  58. By Howie D on Dec 8, 2011 | Reply

    KevinFan65: Obviously some HC’S are going to better in a particular area, but the point is that a HC should have an overall knowledge of everything, hence the title, HC. The HC should be able to override his assistants at any time. In our case, Schotty calls more bad plays than he does good ones – consistently. I sometimes wonder if he knows where the first down marker is. Rex needs to get more involved with the offense or get someone else who’s better. We’re not the only team with this issue, in fact it’s rampant in the NFL, but that doesn’t make it acceptable.

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