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Jim Leonhard’s Season Ends Prematurely Once Again

Posted by Randy Lange on December 12, 2011 – 4:05 pm

The injury looked bad right after it happened, and today Rex Ryan made it official: S Jim Leonhard will not finish the season for the second consecutive year.

“We lost Jimmy, torn patella tendon,” the Jets head coach told team reporters on a conference call this afternoon. “You feel absolutely terrible for him. This team means everything to Jim. His leadership is obviously going to be missed. I know he’ll get this surgery and I’m sure he’s going to be around the building and be part of us anyway. He just can’t do it physically.”

The silver lining to Sunday’s second-quarter injury, not for Leonhard but for the Jets, is that similar to last year, when Leonard broke his leg in practice on Dec. 3, Brodney Pool is ready to step in, play alongside Eric Smith and keep the deep middle contributing to the Jets’ defensive efforts down the stretch.

“We’re fortunate to have as a team a player like Brodney as a backup safety. Now he’ll come in at starting safety with Eric,” Ryan said. “Brodney’s a guy who has man cover skills, he’s got range, he’s smart, he’s in our system now for the second season, so we’re fortunate to have him.

“It’s obviously a huge blow for our football team,” Ryan added, “but it’s one we think we can overcome.”

The difficult part may be in filling in behind Smith and Pool. Undrafted free agent Tracy Wilson, signed in late August, waived in September, signed to the practice squad in October and to the active roster in November, is the lone backup on the depth chart at the moment. Ryan said GM Mike Tannenbaum and his team are seeking available help “maybe not for the short term but to help us with depth maybe in the long term.”

But the long term doesn’t have much longer to go this season. Three more weeks of the regular season — which, if the Jets navigate with three victories, will get them their third AFC Wild Card playoff berth in the three Ryan seasons — plus however long the Green & White would continue into the postseason.

However, for the front line, Pool showed after Leonhard’s injury a year ago that he could accelerate his learning curve in the Ryan/Mike Pettine scheme and had a strong finish, particularly in the Indianapolis playoff game. Now it’s time for No. 22 to stand out one more time.

On the punt-returning front, no sooner had Ryan established his preference for Leonhard’s sure-handedness as the main punt returner than Leonhard went down after his lone return vs. the  Chiefs for 1 yard.

But rookie Jeremy Kerley stepped right back into the role and did a solid job with 42 yards on three returns — 14- and 26-yard runbacks to set up two second-quarter TD drives and a 2-yard return that saved a tough hopper from being turned into an inside-the-5 punt in the third — plus two flawless fair catches.

“Jeremy was in this morning catching punts,” Ryan said. “He takes it on himself to get better — over 200 passes on the JUGS gun every day and I can’t tell you how many punts. … I think Jeremy’s done a tremendous job. Obviously he’s got to do a great job catching the football, first, and worrying about the return, second.”

Ryan said Leonhard will be “almost taking over a coaching role right now” and that he doesn’t think this injury in any way ends Leonhard’s playing career. But for one more stretch run the Jets will be without their heady, competitive back-end field general. We’ll add our condolences to those from around the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center and from around Jets Nation: We’re sorry to hear that you’re going to miss the end to another season, and we wish you a speedy recovery and rehab.

Nuggets from the Chiefs Game

KC coach Todd Haley was dismissed today, less than a day after Sunday’s 37-10 Jets verdict. Ryan on the firing: “As a member of the coaching community, it’s always tough when you hear news like that. I never knew Todd well, but when I’ve been around him, I’ve had a lot of respect for him. I think he did an outstanding job as a coordinator and obviously he took his team to the playoffs last year. It’s just an unfortunate thing. These things happen. I wish him the best.” Romeo Crennel, the former Jets and Patriots assistant and Browns head coach, was named as the Chiefs’ interim HC.

A couple of notes on Mark Sanchez’s recent run: Passer ratings sometimes not terribly revealing but they’re often interesting just the same. For instance, Sanchez’s second quarter vs. the Chiefs was one of three “perfect passing” quarters in his Jets career. He completed seven of eight passes for 120 yards and both his touchdown passes in the second frame, giving him a “perfect” rating of 158.3 for that quarter.

His other such ratings came in the fourth quarter of last year’s AFC Divisional Round game at New England (3-for-3, 72 yards, one TD) and in the third quarter of this year’s Game 2 vs. Jacksonville (5-for-5, 78 yards, 1 TD).

And Sanchez has been at the helm of 13 touchdown drives over the current three-game winning streak. The last time a Jets QB had 13 TD series in a three-game span was Chad Pennington during that golden stretch run in 2002 (3 @ NE, 5 vs. GB, 5 vs. IND in the AFC Wild Card Game). The last time a Jets QB had more was Ken O’Brien, who personally directed 14 TD possessions in 1985 (5 in Game 9 @ IND, 2 in Game 10 @ MIA, 7 in Game 11 vs. TB).

The Jets were the beneficiaries of seven first downs by penalty Sunday. That’s the same total they got in the 2000 Monday Night Miracle OT win over the Dolphins. The last time they got more in a game was in 1988, when the Houston Oilers helped them move the chains nine times via penalty.

The two Jets RBs with the most yards from scrimmage in a game in the last seven seasons were on the MetLife field at the end of the day Sunday. Thomas Jones, now of course a Chief, had 227 yards of offense vs. Buffalo in 2009. And Shonn Greene had a career-high 187 yards in the just-completed win. Crunching the numbers one more way, Greene has the most YFS by a Jets RB with at least 50 receiving yards since Curtis Martin racked up a franchise-record 228 yards in the snow against Pittsburgh on Dec. 14, 2003.

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58 Responses to “Jim Leonhard’s Season Ends Prematurely Once Again”

  1. By wayne on Dec 12, 2011 | Reply

    Tough break for Leonhard. Hopefully he recovers completely. kerley will be fine on punt returns. Was not surprised by muff his first return coming back from injury, which occurred by catching a punt…….I think it will be a while before we see that again from this kid…….Now let’s see how Jets do against an opponent that can at lest put their dukes, and some serious offensive firepower…A whole lot will be answered this very weekend..

  2. By Karan on Dec 12, 2011 | Reply

    Dang it, his season ends early again. I wish you a healthy recovery. I don’t know if we will see Jim in a Jets uniform again next season, I certainly hope we do, but it would not be surprising if we don’t.

  3. By Pranit on Dec 12, 2011 | Reply

    Jim Leohnard is a very good player. Jets should bring him back next year too, imho. He plays with heart !!

    Jets do need to draft another safety next year too. Although there are too many needs to address — OLB, Safety, RB etc etc…lots of needs…

  4. By joe on Dec 12, 2011 | Reply

    Wayne thats my whole point as we are supposed to win the SUPERBOWL (REX GUARANTEED IT )Just to get it we pretty much have to run the table.The Giants won yest so were going to have our hands full. with them If we do get in i really think we can beat DENVER BUT THATS ABOUT IT.If memory serves me correct NE (2x )and Balt basically killed us this year If we play Pittsburgh thats another bad match up for us.Since all games will be away i dont like our chances

  5. By Karan on Dec 12, 2011 | Reply

    I’ll tell you one thing, I sure do miss Dwight Lowery right now. Why oh why did the Jets trade him? You can never have enough depth, and he was an excellent player for us.

  6. By joe on Dec 12, 2011 | Reply

    Wayne say hypothecially we run the table (GIANTS now have something to play for and will be tough )and get in. Rex has guaranteed us a SUPERBOWL WIN THIS YEAR.Road games against teams like Pitts NE and Balt await (LOL NO MORE WASH BUFFALOS KC ETC )Our recent play against teams that we will be playing in Jan hasnt really inspired me to book my SuperBowl tickets as REX has guaranteed.If by some MIRACLE we do get to the BOWL the Packers probably await.

  7. By Karan on Dec 12, 2011 | Reply

    Rex said Tannenbaum is looking at Safety free agents for some depth. Any suggestions of whom the Jets should sign?

  8. By cgb on Dec 12, 2011 | Reply

    your a class act leonhard. you will be missed, i know as soon as you can you will be back coaching up your teammates. I hope you heal up fine and come back next year. good luck man. I’l see you on the sidelines.

  9. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 12, 2011 | Reply

    I wish Leonhard the best but I think Rex’s prediction that his career’s not over was a classic Freudian slip. Coming back two yrs in a row like that isn’t going to be easy and it’s hard to avoid the conclusion that Leonhard’s neither big nor sturdy enough for the NFL, at least not as a starter. Woodhead fans forget that sometimes he comes in for as little as 6 or 7 snaps a game for NE. Actually, since Leonhard’s smarts on D seem to be his greatest asset, maybe his most natural spot on the Jets is as a DB coach. As for Rex, he has to stop talking about Ed Reed and make sure the Jets draft somebody in ’12 who can turn into that kind of player. And while Lowery wasn’t there yet at S, he was a lot better than what’s behind Smith and Pool now.

  10. By Kevin65Fan on Dec 12, 2011 | Reply

    WOW…Spicer…look…more stats for you above….WOW…never hear the end of it now 64 Tom. Thanks Randy…

  11. By Kevin65Fan on Dec 12, 2011 | Reply

    Gotta contain Vick…plain and simple. Their offesive line stinks and we need to put the pressure on. Maybin would be perfect in most cases with his speed and quickness to track down Vick. Let Maybin float all across the line and keep his eyes on Vick at all times…let him be his shadow…and pound him hard…Vick not the most sturdiest physically….

  12. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 12, 2011 | Reply

    P.S. I mean 6 or 7 touches a game for Woodhead, he’s also in on other snaps like when he tried to block Westerman, who obliterated him to get the safety on Brady. I should add that here’s more evidence of Rex’s “questionable roster management” (Randy wouldn’t print what I’d like to call it): So because we dumped Cook, who’d worked with the team for the better part of 2 yrs, on some unexplained whim, all we have behind Smith and Pool is Tracy Wilson, having also unloaded Lowery, Coleman, and Digs without any real explanations. If anybody can tell me what sense any of this makes, especially from an alleged defensive genius, I’m all ears. And this kind of stuff will always happen when you’ve got a HC who can’t command a piece of the FO.

  13. By Clarke W. Griswald on Dec 12, 2011 | Reply

    Long live Rex Ryan, Sorry haters.

  14. By westcoastJET28 on Dec 12, 2011 | Reply

    Sad, sad note after finally a complete game against an irrelevant team. I wish he just fell to the ground after he made the pick. Get well soon Jimmy. Hopefully your back in Green & White next year.

  15. By Jimmer on Dec 12, 2011 | Reply

    The only thing positive about this is this, we have the same 2 st’s that played without Jimmy last year, we won 2 playoff games without him. It can and will be done. Mayhem and Westerman need to step it up to keep the pressure off the secondary.
    Mayhem as a spy this week could be pivotal. Only guy we have with the speed.

  16. By 38 year fan on Dec 12, 2011 | Reply

    Randy , ( if possible ) please tell Leonhard he has got to be there on crutches for the Giants game ..It will show everyone he gave everything to this team … He will get a standing ovation from the Jets Faithfull ….

  17. By scjoe on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    I am a Leonard fan. I think the guy is all heart, but being realistic, they need to upgrade that position, the TEs they face each year seem to be getting bigger, stronger, and faster, how much longer can a 5’9″ safety get it done?

  18. By Jimmer on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    1 Story is bugging me big time. The B.Moore thing leads me to think we’re gonna replace him with some hasbeen. We got a freebee with Slauson, but it ended there. Hunter has been a bad deal. Nobody can say that is a win win. We need to draft someone decent here. A Rt is a pure neccesaty.

  19. By Gabriel on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    Karan, Why do you say that? I am sure as long as Ryan is the Jets HC Scott and Leonhard will be JETS. Such a shame that Jimmy is out again , such a great player and person. I wish him the best!

  20. By IRA on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    Randy,
    That 03 Pitt game with Curtis is on my 10 most enjoyed games of all time for me.
    Wayne, Agree Kerley will be fine with the punt returns. Watched him all summer and he has great hands. He had 1 slip up and fans went crazy.
    Again real bad deal for Jim and wish him the best. I do feel Pool will step it up just like he did last year. However they will sign a veteran probably by tomorrow for depth. Still think they should’ve never traded Lowery that was a mistake. …

  21. By IRA on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    So nobody gave them a chance going into Pitt during the regular season because they had never won there and looked what happened. Will Philly be easy? Of course not i am afraid of their team speed and Vick. Jets just need to play with the same sense of urgency they have had the past two weeks and they will be fine. Just hope they continue to run the ball and mix in the pass. Field position will be very big this week. You do not want to give Vick a short field to work with and the safeties have to make sure their speedy WR’s don’t get behind them.
    Just as much as its Sanchez time in Dec and Jan the same can be said for Greene who is hitting his stride now.
    GO JETS!!!!

  22. By IRA on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    Getting back to Greene and Dec if you look at his Dec #’s they are much better than Sept, Oct or Nov. 09-41-225-5.5 per.010 45-191-4.2 per, and so far for 011 46-217-4.7 and 4 TD’s. Clearly they need to continue to pound the ball with Greene especially with the Eagles and Giants and their high powered offenses they will face.

  23. By Tom Spicer on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    I hate when guys say Rex guarenteed a Super Bowl NO HE DID NOT & HE NEVER HAS! The New York media baits him & they say “Are you going to win the Supoer Bowl” & he says yes we are. What is he supposed to say no we are not? Rex has NEVER EVER said I guarentee we are going to win the Super Bowl. That is made up by the MEDIA!

  24. By GaryC on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    anyone who keeps knocking sanchez I have just two words, Browning Nagle.

  25. By Tom Spicer on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    I never ever want to see anyone get hurt. But to be honest I have been asking on this site all year for the Jets to start Pool over Leonhard I see no loss in this I actually see it as a improvement in our Saftey play. Smith is bad vs the pass but is a great run stuffer & a big hitter. Pool is the best cover saftey we have. To me Leonhard could not cover the pass & he could not play the run. It is year 3 in the Rex D so everyone knows it now there should be no need to have him back there. As far as punts even thou he is sure handed just by watching last weeks game you could see Kerley has that speed to take it the distance that Leonahrd just does not have.

  26. By Allan O'Dane on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    Karen, I believe the Jets let go of Lowery so he can be a starter for another team. He asked to be traded and being behind Leonhard and Pool Rex granted his trade request. I for one loved Lowery’s play, tough kid but had his issues also covering TE’s. Clearly our off-season needs are: Big safety 6’2 220lbs who can cover and play the run. OLB, and DE both who can rush the passer and a RT, Wayne Hunter is a good back-up but not the answer. I will be happy to see Rob Turner back next year. Secondary is going to need to step it up expect more blitz packages from Rex.

  27. By Frank on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    Leonhard will be missed and will definitely be back next year. Thank god they resigned Pool during the offseason when it looked like they were waffling. How smart does TanWoody look now throwing Cook overboard he certainly would have been a capable backup WHO KNOWS OUR SYSTEM! Now what genius? If Smith or Pool go down we are in serious trouble.
    Randy nice job on the Sanchez numbers however the quality of the compeltion when O’Brien and Chad did it was significantly better than now. We just beat 3 dormats lets see how well Sanchez plays the next 3 games. This Eagles game is going to be the toughest. Giants secondary is atrocious and with Sparano being fired the Phins mailed in the season and V Davis is done for the season.

  28. By wayne on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    Joe, not even giving playoffs one thought….The next 2 games will be the gauntlet. And if they get thru them, there’s a tendency in this franchise’s history that I don’t have to enumerate for anyone here……Diehards have to believe anything is possible, I stopped being one of those a couple years ago. I’m from the show me state now…….As for Rex’s mouth, I’ve spoken out bout that from the beginning. He’s toned it down, but expectations are still high. Enjoy the next three games. They gonna be tough. And as far as we’ve seen, when GQ is under pressure, he does well…..Depending on the type of pressure. The Eagles have defensive playmakers, that doesn’t necessarily bode well for QB prone to big mental errors.

  29. By Allan O'Dane on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    Karen, I believe Darren Sharper may still be available

  30. By wayne on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    This is a slow defense……………….Against Michael Vick……………………..Maybin had better be on the field for just about every snap.

  31. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    Clarke, it’s not a matter of hating, it’s a matter of evaluating. Like evalating how Mr T/Rex/Callahan/Schotty screwed up by not having a backup C. Like evaluating how Mr. T/Rex/Thurman screwed up at the S position. You wanna oversimplify for the sake of a laugh, that’s fine. You wanna oversimplify and expect results from a team that makes too many mistakes, good luck. Ira, you sound like Rex saying you’re “not afraid” of the Eagles and their team speed, making everything personal in this faux-macho way. Nobody cares if you or Rex are afraid or not afraid, they just don’t wanna see all those fast Eagle targets leaving our slow LBs and our weak S pair (Pool is an upgrade over Leonhard in my view) in the dust. Eyes on the prize, not the hype!

  32. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    While I feel badly for Leonhard, I agree with you completely on both Pool and Kerley, Spicer. Nice to see the fates smack Rex down over his ridiculous reaction to Kerley’s fumble, now he has to depend on him and watch, Kerley will probably break one and show Rex that he shouldn’t rush to conclusions…just like McKnight showed Rex not to rush to conclusions by becoming the NFL’s leading KR guy this yr…just like I hope Cook doesn’t show Rex or whoever not to jump to conclusions in a playoff game between us and BAL. (Right on about Cook, Frank, that move might end up rivaling not getting a backup C for Mangold.)

  33. By IRA on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    wayne, Thats right the Eagles offense is a bad matchup for the Jets. They better play smart and stay in their lanes or they will give up big plays. I still say the key for the Jets this week and next is to control the clock and keep the other teams offense off the field.
    Going into this season the Jets were 7-30 against the NFC. So far this year they are 2-0 and hope soon they will be 4-0.

  34. By Tom Spicer on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    The Jets gave up 3 sacks this past week. I said they would have a big challenge vs Tamba Hali & Justin Houston. This week will be even harder for us the Eagles can rush the passer & they love to blitz. Jason Babin has 15 sacks & Trent Cole has 9. Brick & Hunter really need to step up.

  35. By Tom Spicer on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    The Eagles on the road is going to be a big time test maybe harder than the Giants. On the road at Philly the Eagles fans are relentless they can be 0 & 16 & they will give you a hard time. They can run the ball McCoy is a stud & Vick is back who can run or throw the ball. With Jackson, Maclin & Celek they have weapons all over the field please you can not discount Vicks ability to run the ball. They have 3 good NFL corners & as I have said above they can rush the passer with Babin & Cole. Our D is going to have to step up & get after Vick. On O they are hard to throw against but you can run on them we have to establish the run.

  36. By GaryC on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    If people want to improve the offensive line, what about Schladeraff, the guy we picked up from packers,I mean we did give a draft pick up for him,or is this another wasted transaction by the tanny team.

  37. By scjoe on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    I think this Philly game will come down to which Philly team shows up. We have seen very good games from them this season, and then again we have seen very,very, bad games from them. The Jets will be hard pressed to beat Philly at their best, and that may be OK. I think wins over the Giants at home and Miami the following week will get them the #6 seed at 10-6/ 7-5 I also agree we have to see more Maybin on the field this week then last. If not just to rush the passer then to help contain Vick, he is a bad match up against the rest of the LBs when he is on the run.

  38. By cgb on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    Thats so true spicer ,about rex guarentee to win the SB that whole statement is a media myth,and everybody and his brother repeats that as factual info.

  39. By Jets Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    I don’t know, scjoe, 10-6 looks really iffy. On all levels including the one of confidence, much better to win out. Playing on the road all post-season again is gonna be tough enough as it is, especially since this yr so far we haven’t been much of a road team.

  40. By scjoe on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    64, no doubt winning out will get you in, but you can through out the records of these last three teams, winning out will be very, very tough! A 10-6 record including a win in Miami there is a good chance, a 10-6 record with a loss in Miami and there is little to no chance. Putting a positive spin on it, there are a lot of fans of a lot of teams who can only wish their team is in the position of our team.

  41. By scjoe on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    64, re: the playoff picture again. There is a very good possibility it comes down to week 17 Jets-Miami and Tenn-Houston. It is almost a given Ten wins it’s next 2 games (Indy,Jax) BUT, if Houston is still in the running for home field throughout that could tip the scales in favor of the Jets, assuming they split with Giants and Philly and beat Miami, What that would do is bring it to the 4th tiebreaker (net points) which as of now the Jets are way ahead.

  42. By Tom Spicer on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    SCJoe, What about the Bengals? Would they have to lose to someone as well?

  43. By Charliejet on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    Take nothing for granted – win em’ all outright. End of story.

  44. By joe on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    EARTH to TOM (SPICER )I personally have heard REX RYAN guarantee WE WILL HAVE A SUPERBOWL win here.Every time hes interviewed he proclaims the JETS ARE THE BEST TEAM IN FOOTBALL. (TOM YOUR KIDDING arent you)If we are the best team in football what the hell are the Packers.Tom because you NEVER HEARD IT that doesnt mean it wasnt said.Now your off the stats and on to conspiracy theorys involving the media making things up.Tom maybe you can answer an old one did the media really fake ELVIS DEATH as well.

  45. By Nuttaz on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    Just read that the Jets signed Gerald Alexander – Drafted out of Boise State in 2007 – 6’2″ 209 – check out the hit he made on youtube…knocked the guys helmet off!!! He’s floated around but looks quick and can hit…at least at the college level… Get well soon Leonard and don’t be a stranger, your defense needs you

  46. By joe on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    Spicer did the MEDIA also bait and goat REX in doing HARD KNOCKS Did theY bait and goat his behavior on the show as well .Tom REX likes the limelight thats not the best traight for a football coach Shows like the above are NOTHING BUT A DISTACTION (No team thats ever done HARDKNOCKS has ever won anything)You couldnt PAY A BELLICHICK, TOMLIN enough to get them to star in one of those FIASCOS .Bellichick HAS PERSONALLY STATED hes not a movie star hes here for one thing TO WIN THE SUPERBOWL .He doesnt want anyone to know his business or any distractions from his only objective.

  47. By joe on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    Typical Tom (SPICER )100% wrong with HIS FACTS.If anyone out there wants to check out REXS GUARANTEES please google REX RYAN GUARANTEES SUPER BOWL WIN .If you do so you tube has NUMERIOUS SEGMENTS (5-10 )where REX has GUARANTEED THE JETS winning the superbowl.Check it out SPICER YOUR DEAD WRONG

  48. By joe on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    Aug 11 2010,Feb 24 2011 Oct 21 2011 I just viewed the following REX RYAN new confrences on YOU TUBE (THERE ARE MANY MANY MORE )in the above REX MADE SUPER BOWL VICTORY GUARANTEES LEFT AND RIGHT .He was flat GUARANTING BRAGGING- BOASTING OF SUPERBOWL VICTORYS to come for that part season to come.Please everyone check it out as i put in the previous post GOOGLE REX RYAN GUARANTEES SUPER BOWL VICTORY ON YOUTUBE.Tom (SPICER )where do you come up with this stuff.

  49. By Row on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    I wish the best for Leonhard. Pool is a hitter, he needs to absolutely blow up every Philly WR when they’re going over the middle. I can’t wait to see what Vick thinks when he decides to take one outside and gets leveled by Pool. I still haven’t seen a solid improvement in the defense. The D still struggles on outside runs. Pace has come on a bit, Scott seems to just be out there. I still think this is a game the Jets can win. I’d like to see a nail biter where running the ball is emphasized. Start LT, continue to give the ball to LT the entire 1st half and come out with Greene on 3rd downs. Sanchez is still staring down the first looks, forcing throws to Burress who is now dropping the ball. T.O.? I say yes.

  50. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    All your figuring just convinces me of one thing, scjoe: It’s better to just win the games you need to when you need to. And not lose to OAK and DEN earlier in the season. If you can’t picture the Jets crushing all three of these last few opponents, I can’t imagine why you’d want to see them in the SB this yr, where they’d likely get crushed by a REALLY good team.

  51. By joe on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    Jet Fan Since 64 Tom MAYBE its 40 years of FUTILITY TALKING (ARTIE LANGE SYNDROME )But if we do get in is there any indication at all from their play this year that we could go on the road beat a NE then a Balt or Pitts to advance to the Superbowl to prob play GB.I know this TODAY if we were to play GB at a neutral site we would be getting 10 plus points easy.

  52. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 14, 2011 | Reply

    I, too, come from the “40 Years of Futility” school, joe, which is why I don’t pay a lot of attention to some of what’s written on this site about our O, how our D allegedly “blows” games by giving up 10 or 13 pts, and so on. And while I’m hoping for more of what we’ve seen offensively these last few wks (thanks in part to Tom Moore?), I agree with you, there’s not much evidence that we could beat a team like GB or NO in the big one this yr. What some folks don’t seem to recognize is that while both of those teams may be vulnerable on D, you can’t exploit that if your goal is to take ten minutes to get a TD (or, sometimes, a FG) and hope the other guys won’t score. Rodgers or Brees will just torch you for 6 in 2 plays again and again.

  53. By Jimmer on Dec 14, 2011 | Reply

    The story in the Daily News made me do a double take about Leonard. As in a past tense, he said he “loved his time here”. That doesn’t sound very positive. The guy plays like Chrebet did. Undersized, but lots of heart. I’d love to have him back. We already needed a safety if he did come back.

  54. By joe on Dec 14, 2011 | Reply

    Jet Fan Since 64 thats exactly what will happen.As i mentioned in DECADES before teams that won the SUPERBOWL with Ground and Pound ,Ball Control offence(whatever you want to call it )had ABSOLUTE SHUT DOWN DEFENCES.In todays NFL there is ABSOLUTELY NO SUCH THING as a shutdown Defence .The Pittsburgh Steelers probably have one of the best (if not the best Ds in football today ) how did last years superbowl work out for them.

  55. By joe on Dec 14, 2011 | Reply

    As far as the Superbowl we as Jet fans after 40 years of winning almost nothing (i think its 1 Div Title )want to believe (esp since our coach every year GUARANTESS A SUPERBOWL WIN )REALISTICALLY wait untill next year lol

  56. By punchie on Dec 14, 2011 | Reply

    Jim leonhard has a great football mind and coolness under pressure.Dont give up on the rehab bro next year may verry well be our year if not this year FINISH STRONG J-E-T-S JETS PLACEYA BETS

  57. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 14, 2011 | Reply

    I wasn’t surprised by what Leonhard said, Jimmer, because Rex’s Freudian slip after the game on Sunday about his career not being over suggested that the team had already told him they might not take him back next yr. Before I read what Rex said, my guess was that they’d offer Leonhard the same kind of 1-yr deal they offered Leon, one during which he’d have to prove he can still play, and that Leonhard, probably a little less full of himself than Leon (and his loudmouth wife), would take it. But who knows, maybe Rex really is tired of waxing nostalgic about Ed Reed and realizes that we need someone like that really badly next yr. I sure hope that’s the case.

  58. By jonjets on Dec 20, 2011 | Reply

    Jimmy,so sorry to hear about the rest of the season,get better real soom mate!

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