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Greene’s on the Ballot for FedEx Ground Player of Week

Posted by Randy Lange on December 13, 2011 – 11:19 am

Updated 11:48 a.m. ET

Shonn Greene is picking up speed and one more measure of that is the Jets tailback’s nomination for this week’s FedEx Ground NFL Player of the Week.

Greene, who ran for 129 yards and a touchdown on 24 carries in the 37-10 rout of the Chiefs on Sunday, is in the running for the award with Giants RB Brandon Jacobs and Seahawks RB Marshawn Lynch. Fans can go to NFL.com/FedEx and vote for their favorite Air & Ground players of the week from now through 3 p.m. ET Friday.

Greene’s game was significant for several reasons. His 129 yards not only was a season high but was the third-most yards in a game in his three-year career, topped only by his 144 yards at Oakland in 2009 in his first significant action as a Jet and by his 135 yards in the AFC Wild Card win at Cincinnati later his rookie season.

And Greene’s 24 attempts is a career high, surpassing his 23 carries in the 2009 AFC Divisional Round win at San Diego the week after the Cincinnati game.

SG’s rushing game was a major component of the victory. As head coach Rex Ryan said on Monday, “I was really happy with the way we ran the football. We had 42 rushing attempts, which is always a good sign for us.”

How good a sign? Ryan and his stuff like to bundle rushing attempts and completions together as an indicator of the offense’s performance in a given game. The Jets had 55 rushes and catches vs. Kansas City, the 11th-highest total in Ryan’s tenure as the Jets’ coach. When the Jets have 55 or more rushes plus catches under Rex, their record is 10-1, and in franchise history the Jets’ record in those games is 148-24-2, an .856 winning percentage.

Further, it’s not a part of the criteria for nominating a player for “Ground” status but it should be mentioned again that Greene also added 58 receiving yards to give him a career-high 187 yards from scrimmage.

And further still, Greene is on a roll, with Sunday’s game following hot on the heels of his 22-carry, 88-yard, three-TD game against the Redskins. Which coincidentally was played at FedExField. We’re just sayin’.

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Several team rankings are worth mentioning now that Week 14 of the season is in the books. The offense’s yardage rankings are still low (although the Jets have risen from 31st to a season-high 22nd in rushing offense in the last eight weeks). But the scoring offense is on the move, rising to sixth in the league, its highest level in the last 24 weeks, or since it came in at fourth after Week 7 of the 2010 season.

The Elias Sports Bureau tells me that the last NFL team to go 12-for-12 in red zone TDs was the Colts in 2010 and the last to put together a longer streak was the 2006 Chargers, who had 15 in a row.

The Jets’ red zone performance continues to sparkle. By going 5-for-5 in RZ TD drives vs. KC, they now have scored touchdowns in 12 consecutive possessions inside the opponents’ 20, beginning with the one TD at Denver. That raises their TD drive percentage to 71.4, No. 1 in the NFL. It’s also the best percentage after 14 weeks since the 2007 Saints were posting a 72.5 percent red zone TD rate en route to their league-leading 72.0 for the season.

Finally, after allowing 221 yards to Kansas City, the Jets’ defense in total yards allowed has also climbed to a season-high sixth. And after holding the Chiefs to 2-for-12 on third-down conversions, the Green & White inched up from third to second in the league’s third-down defense standings.


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63 Responses to “Greene’s on the Ballot for FedEx Ground Player of Week”

  1. By scjoe on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    The opening line reads “Shonn Greene is picking up speed” unfortunately not the kind of speed he needs to be the starting back in this offense. He is a great complimentary back but just don’t have the break away speed that is necessary to be classified as what I always refer to as a “dynamic” back. That is the element this offense is missing. We witnessed what a better then average running game will do for the offense against KC and Washington but that is what is needed each and every week, I am not certain we have the back that can do that on this roster.

  2. By Tom Spicer on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    Greene has played better these last 2 weeks & we are going to need him to continue to play like that for the rest of the year. The Eagles weakness is defending the run & if we run the ball well we will keep the ball out of the hands of there explosive O.

  3. By Another Tom on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    It seems to me that Greene is healthy now and playing His best ball of the season..perfect timing. LT also looks fresh and ready to roll..Not sure what Powell can bring though, he s been tenative so far..

  4. By jetsfan80 on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    I agree, Spicer. I think Greene/the running game and the play of our D this week determines the win. Then again, I think that every week! lol. Hey ’64 Tom, your Bengals and Raiders “stumbled” again this week, just like this “Jets fan from dreamland” thought was possible a few weeks ago! Dreams really do come true, sometimes, don’t they? Go JETS!

  5. By godmodule on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    Greene has been played great the recent two games and the reason for this that the O line created wholes and Shonn finally seems to have found the patience to wait until creation by the O line has been completed…

    gez.
    godmodule

  6. By IRA on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    Hope Greene wins this award. His best all around game as a Jet so far.
    You never know how games will play out but i think the Jets have to control the ball for at least 35 min to win this game.

  7. By Clarke W. Griswald on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    People never complained about Thomas Jones the way they complain about Greene. Can someone please explain that to me? scjoe, Tom 64? Thomas Jones was definitely a one dimensional back, he rushed for 1000, but he also got about 40 carries a game. Shonn Greene is still, to this day, being dogged for the beginning of the season, when they were only running it 9 times a game. My point is, when TJ was around, I didn’t hear anybody saying “We don’t have a good running back on this roster”.

  8. By Chicago Bob on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    Greene will never be an elite back however he is doing a solid job and there are far more important positions that need to be addressed before RB. You can talk about his lack of breakaway speed and while it would be great to have a someone like that, the Steelers won a few Super Bowls with Franco Harris and he didn’t exactly have world class speed – they did it mostly with a killer defense. Hopefully Rex sends an XMAS card to Tony Sparano – he would be a welcome addition to take over as OL Coach in the event Rex decides he has seen enough of Schotty and moves Callahan to O.C. When you look at the upcoming draft, there should be no problem addressing some of our more pressing needs (RDE, OLB, OL) as there will be plenty to pick from

  9. By Tom Spicer on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    We have to beat either the Eagles or the Giants to even have a shot a the playoffs & we have to beat Miami 2 of 3 might get us in. If we lose to Miami even if we beat the Giants & Philly with 6 AFC loses IT IS OVER! Miami is a must win.

  10. By russ on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    Credit Offensive line for stepping up and making the blocks to open holes…finally….Now its the DL’s turn to force more errors with Leohnard disabled…

  11. By scjoe on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    Clark G, Exactly when did I ever say either Jones OR Green was the “dynamic” RB this team needs? Greene is what he is, a great complementary back, not a “great” starter. I will stand by that statement. He does not have sufficient speed to be that featured back. That said, I would not mind him being on the roster if/when we ever do acquire that “dynamic” back.

  12. By GaryC on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    jet fan tom, why are you continuing your woodhead infatuation,the jets blew it, plain and simple, at least get a draft pick for him if he wasn’t making the team, even rexy knows they blew it, by the way, your big on stats, what was plastico’s line this past game,so far this year averaging less than three catches a game.no,I don’t want him back next year as even a fourth receiver.

  13. By wayne on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    Not a Greene guy, but since he injured his ribs he’s been hitting the hole hard instead of thinking and it’s been very effective,stellar even…….So, bust a rib start of next year and he’s all pro………….As for this week, I think he deserves the award.

  14. By wayne on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    CWG, Greene was gosh awful at the beginning. I don’t say it, the numbers say it. Doing the cha cha instead of hitting the hole when you’re a power back doesn’t usually translate into good results as an RB. He deserves the cudos he’s getting now just as well as he deserves the criticism he was getting earlier.

  15. By Row on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    I’ve never seen Greene run as he did on his big highlight shown several times on the NFL network. It just seems like he runs hard when he wants to and when LT is back there, he’s hit as he gets the ball, but somehow fights for about 3 yards. Either way, I say we need a blocking TE and need more lead blocks by the FB it’s like Schotty intentionally motions the FB away from the run or has him block someone who’s not the first guy that could hit the ball carrier. Too many times I see Connor looking at someone picking up LT and him not leveling the linebacker that somehow shoots the holes time & time again. Happy about the win, but not happy about #6. More than half his yards were to Greene and LT. He is still missing throws & not making reads.

  16. By Tom Spicer on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    I heard if the Cowboys win Saturday night & the Giants win Sunday at 1. By the time we start at 4:15 the Eagles will already know they are officially out of it & have nothing to play for. That can not be a bad thing either they will play the same or not play as hard knowing they are done. So I will be rooting for the Cowboys & the Giants this week.

  17. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    I think the Jones/Greene question touches on 2 long-time Jet bugaboos, Clarke: (1) Reluctance to admit big moves haven’t worked out, and (2) Impatience with young players. TJ was highly hyped, maybe not overly so but a lot, so when he obviously lost more than a step by 2009, some didn’t want to admit it. (How many times that yr did I post about us opening huge holes for him and him getting caught from behind?) And SG is pretty much on pace in his crucial 3rd yr to become a solid, every-down RB but some fans seem to want Charles/Rice/Peterson or nothing. One thing I don’t like about Rex is he’s as much into (1) and (2) as anyone so I don’t see him changing the Jet culture all that much, I see him reinforcing some of the worst aspects of it.

  18. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    And by the time you read this, Clarke, I predict Rex will have weighed in along the lines of (1) on these pathetic pickups of Alexander and Legree, a failed #2 pick and a 1st-yr castoff. But since Rex can’t admit that losing Cook was dumb, much less tell us who was really responsible for it, I’m sure he’ll tell us how these are “guys that we always liked” or some other nonsense. You don’t have to have much of a memory to see thru Rex on this level: Less than 2 wks ago he claimed that we let Cook go in favor of Tracy Wilson because TW’s “one of the hardest-working guys on this team.” Not hard-working enough, apparently, for us to have enough faith to put him on the field once an injury makes that a possibility. I give Mr T an F for this yr.

  19. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    jetsfan80, when losing to the undefeated Pack constitutes “stumbling” for any team in the NFL, wake up from THAT dream and let me know. As for CIN, they’ve lost a step though HOU’s still tough even without Schaub, but DEN’s gained one, so it still hurt us to lose games we shoulda won. GaryC, I think you misread me, I meant that Woodhead can carry the ball 5 or 6 times and catch 2 passes a game without getting hurt but it’s tougher for a S Leonhard’s size to play a whole game. Spicer, let’s stop splitting hairs, any Jet team that can’t win these last 3 games isn’t likely to go very far in the playoffs — you know, the post-season, in which almost every team is really good and you don’t play against QBs like Tyler Palko?

  20. By 38 year fan on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    We are right where we want to be …Hungry , peaking at the right time , and determined … Those rankings are revealing . 6th in scoring , 12 straight red zone scores in a row . And we have been able to come out and score faster,& earlier- very important ..

  21. By dougmc on Dec 13, 2011 | Reply

    Dump offs and slants by the backfield this week worked great. Running game getting better each week and Greene gives out punishment to some DB every week even though he’s playing a little dinged up. Not afraid of McKnight and Powell playing if they had too. McKnight on D packages is a good idea with a man down in secondary. Guy they signed at DB has some decent experience.
    Kerley looks good. Plax is a beast in moneyzone. Special Teams needs to bring more to the table. Get after these next 2 QB’s with pass rush and blitzing.Get some breaks.inflict our will, score many points and win takeaways.
    Greene will be “FED-Ex” ground player of the week…
    J————E————-T————S…JETS…JETS…JETS…!!!

  22. By Karan on Dec 14, 2011 | Reply

    Kinda wish the Jets would have kept Ben Hartsock and Dwight Lowery. Lowery was good depth and lets be honest, Mulligan stinks and hasn’t replaced Hartsock too well this season.

  23. By IRA on Dec 14, 2011 | Reply

    Forget about Greene getting of to a slow start. Numbers don’t lie and the Jets are 6-0 when Greene runs for 100 yds or more. Not his fault the OL wasn’t ready to play early and the staff decided to become a more pass happy team. During this three game winning streak the Jets have avg 133 yds rushing per game. Its quite simple stay committed to the run and they will beat the Eagles.
    GO JETS!!!!

  24. By GaryC on Dec 14, 2011 | Reply

    All this love for Brodney Pool, let’s get real, this guy was so good with the Browns they decided they didn’t need him and nobody has mistaken them for the 85 bears.

  25. By Frank on Dec 14, 2011 | Reply

    I thought Greene should have won the award last week with his 3 td’s. He would be a lock this week if they gave him the ball on first and goal inside the 5 instead of letting Sanchez run it in….coaches agenda.
    Clarke the biggest knock and most significant comparison to TJ is that Greene is not as durable as TJ. Greene plays great for short stretches but then he ends up with some ailment. That was his biggest knock coming out of college his durability. He needs to get tougher mentally and physically. Lets hope he stays healthy the rest of the way he will be the one to carry the team through the playoffs its the only way Sanchez can be effective. Proof positive is the Colts game in the AFC Championship two year ago when he went down.

  26. By IRA on Dec 14, 2011 | Reply

    I have a better Greene fact. Since he has been a Jet when he runs for 70 yds or more the Jets are 14-2.

  27. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 14, 2011 | Reply

    It’s too early in Greene’s career to make that “knock” against him, Frank, just like it’s too early to call any player a “fumbler” in his first few yrs. On both counts, the NFL’s a lot different than college. What’s more, your post illustrates exactly the hypocrisy on TJ vs. SG that Clarke’s talking about. TJ got hurt at the end of 2009 too, he just didn’t talk about it or the Jets didn’t report it or whatever. But the TJ in the 2nd half of the IND game had zero, so don’t tell me about his tremendous durability. Agree about Pool, GaryC, but like I keep saying, Rex will say anything and seems to think we’ll believe anything. It’s nice that we at least have Pool but Mr T and our alleged D mastermind HC blew it this yr at S and OL big-time.

  28. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 14, 2011 | Reply

    And Frank, where do you get off making this “knock” on Greene re injuries when he’s playing fantastically through injuries right now, for several weeks in a row? Ira, I’ll go out on a limb and bet you a first-round draft pick that we don’t beat either the Eagles or the Giants by “staying committed to the run.” Run the ball effectively, yes, but I guess you have some fantasy that all those O weapons those teams have are gonna just disappear such as Cruz and Nicks, who have twice as many yds and much higher avgs than anybody we got. No, there may be stretches of tough D, especially by us, but I think we’re more likely to win the way we beat DAL. Or haven’t you noticed that the Giants just scored 72 pts vs much better teams than WASH and KC?

  29. By scjoe on Dec 14, 2011 | Reply

    64/spicer, in answer to your questions from previous post, 64, If/when the Jets make the playoffs they have as good a chance as anyone else, they proved that the last two years. It is a new season and everyone is 0-0. How did homefield throughout work out for NE last year? Spicer, if both the Jets and Cinn finish 10-6, assuming the Jets beat Miami both would be 7-5 in the division, the 4th tie breaker, strength of victory would apply, right now the Jets are comfortably ahead of Cinn, (Jets +57, Cinn+15)

  30. By scjoe on Dec 14, 2011 | Reply

    Randy, correct me if I am wrong on the above post re: the #4 tie breaker. Could “strength of victory” also mean overall record of the teams you defeated? If so, where does that leave both the Jets and Bengals at 10-6 / 7-5

  31. By Randy Lange on Dec 14, 2011 | Reply

    scjoe, strength of victory in NFL wild-card tiebreaker parlance refers to the combined win-loss percentage of opponents beaten, just as strength of schedule (the No. 5 tiebreaker, right behind No. 4, strength of victory) is the combined W-L percentage of all opponents. Best net points in conference games is the No. 8 tiebreaker, best net points in all games is No. 9.

  32. By Allan O'Dane on Dec 14, 2011 | Reply

    Well…to bad Denver fans..Tebow was just put on the cover of Sports Illustrated…let the curse begin…

  33. By Jimmer on Dec 14, 2011 | Reply

    Ira, I have to disagree about SG best game being last week. Remember, he did rush for 200+ yards his rookie year.

  34. By Jimmer on Dec 14, 2011 | Reply

    Green deserves at least a mention. But when we were simply trying to run the clock out, he faded.

    If the season ended today, we’d be going to NE.

  35. By uncle joe on Dec 14, 2011 | Reply

    We have a Dynamic Back,,,His name is LT. Cannot Overstate Enough what he has been for this Team. Probably take heat for this but, I just call it as I see it!

  36. By Frank on Dec 14, 2011 | Reply

    64 take it easy dude I am not knocking Greene I love the guy he is carrying the team. My comments are 100% accurate the draft pundits said he was a first round talent and fell to the third because he had durabilty issues. Your right TJ was worn out at the end of 2009 and Greene who was fresh carried the load from there. TJ WAS THE ONE WHO CARRIED THEM TO THE PLAYOFFS with his 1400 yards and #1 rushing offense in the NFL. Stop with the TJ derangement syndrome! Greene has not picked up the load period end of story. If Greene stays healthy he is a better RB than TJ until then he has durability question marks. Greene carried us in the first half of the Colts game when he went out in the second half Sanhez couldn’t carry the team.

  37. By GaryC on Dec 14, 2011 | Reply

    I asked this question one other time, how could the jets see all the talent in ducasse and not see it in victor cruz seeing that they both played for UMASS.at the same time.another brilliant move by the crackerjack scouting dept.

  38. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 14, 2011 | Reply

    It’s not the homefield advantage I’m worried about, scjoe, it’s the sheer quality and toughness of the team at hand. We sure didn’t look like a tough quality team in the first half vs. PIT last yr.

  39. By Another Tom on Dec 14, 2011 | Reply

    Right on Uncle Joe..LT has been a treat to watch..His skills, leadership and approach to the game are remarkable ..He is a true PROFESSIONAL and I hope he is a part of this team for a few more years

  40. By justen on Dec 14, 2011 | Reply

    Greene and LT the 2 people i want on this team to run the ball. We got power with Greene and speed with LT

  41. By Row on Dec 14, 2011 | Reply

    Maurice Jones-Drew, EOS!

  42. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 14, 2011 | Reply

    Frank, Greene had a 5.0 avg to TJ’s 4.2 in 2009. In that yr, our line was opening holes big enough for Elston Howard to run through. But also in that yr, TJ would be about 12 for 20 or 15 for 30, then break a long run — and get caught from behind. Anyone could see he’d lost a step despite the 1,400 yds, which was more a reflection of number of carries than agility, speed, or strength. This became completely clear the next yr when he went to KC and couldn’t avg 4.0 with their inferior line while SG, in his alleged “off” yr, had more yds and avg 4.2. SG has also become a better receiver than TJ ever was, so overall I think the timing of the move was fine. Unfortunately, LT’s done as a runner now too so it’s time to rethink the backfield.

  43. By GaryC on Dec 15, 2011 | Reply

    jet fan tom, you should of said Jake Gibbs the old mississippi quarterback who later caught for the yankees,a hole big enough for him to run through.as for rex calling tracy wilson a hard worker,if that meant getting on the field and playing, woodhead would still be on team.

  44. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 15, 2011 | Reply

    I think Howard was slower than Gibbs, GaryC, and besides, Howard at least recalls the Yankee glory days while Gibbs dredges up the disastrous ones. And sure, Woodhead was a hard worker but see where that got him. Hey, Rex is down to praising players, like he did Alexander yesterday, for being nice guys, so that’s not even worth talking about…

  45. By joe on Dec 15, 2011 | Reply

    Spicer your worried about beating a 5 win team(if the Eagles find out their out of it maybe they will lay down for us )Tom (Spicer) if Green Bay were playing them do you think they would be worried.Spicer if the JETS cant beat a 5 win team their more than pathethic as THIER COACH HAS GUARANTEED US A SUPERBOWL WIN.I know Spicer their the best 5 win team in NFL HISTORY.

  46. By joe on Dec 15, 2011 | Reply

    Ps IF we do get in and have to play Baltimore i hope the RAVENS are ready for our dynamic running attack that will surely pave the way for another Jet Super bowl win.This year when we played them we grounded and pounded Nata ,Suggs Lewis, Reed and the rest of the Ravins D filled with future hall of famers into submission.Be ready Baltimore were coming to play like Jets.What was the final on that debacle 35-7 or something

  47. By joe on Dec 15, 2011 | Reply

    Trying to beat PITTS OR BALT by running the football REX really should be in comedy .

  48. By Tom Spicer on Dec 16, 2011 | Reply

    Joe, The Eagles have a explosive O they can play with anyone if they have there heads on straigth. The can run the ball with Mcoy & they can throw it with Jackson, Maclin & Celek. Vick is also always a threat to run the ball. They are 3rd in the league in sacks & have 2 stud pass rushers in Babin & Cole. They also have 3 great corners in Ashoumga, Cromartie & Samuel plus they are home. A teams record does not always indicate there talent level DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL!

  49. By Tom Spicer on Dec 16, 2011 | Reply

    Joe, HELLO The Ravens are a running team ! As well as the Texans, Broncos, 49ers, Bears, Jets & the Lions were 5 & 0 they lose Jahvid Best for the year & no longer have a running game & since then have gone in a tail sping. I WONDER WHY? They Cowboys were bad all of a sudden Demarco Murray comes out of no where & they are doing great. Than last week he breaks his ankle they no longer have a threat to run & bam they lose to the Giants. I WONDER WHY? So more the half the teams in the playoff bracket are running teams & the other 2 one drop of big time after they lost there starting running back & the other one did not start to do good untikl they found a real running back. I WONDER WHY?

  50. By joe on Dec 16, 2011 | Reply

    SPICER THE EAGLES won 5 games THERE NOT VERY GOOD I ll let you in on a little secret you DEFINATELY DONT KNOW ABOUT -the GREEN BAY PACKERS (none of the teams you mentioned )could go down as one of the best teams in history could care less about running the ball (either could the second best team in football the SAINTS )You see SPICER the only thing the matters is winnning the superbowl.Rogers and Brees dont need to run the ball to set up passes THEY DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.

  51. By Ablity on Dec 16, 2011 | Reply

    The reality of the leauge is that 60 percent of the backs in the national football leauge can get it done if given the chance and the oline to make it work. I love greene, i think he has the skills to be a top five back in the leauge, he reminds me of Turner for Atlanta. However, a great back is nothing without a oline to open holes for him, it is a simple as that. Backs do not make magic back there most of the time. Greene does not try. He is a downhill, powerful runner, with surprising speed in the open space. They key to this Jets team, as it is the key to any NFL team in the league is our oline and our dline, If the oline can open hole and protect our QB, we will be fine, if our dline can stop the run and rush the passer, it too simple

  52. By joe on Dec 16, 2011 | Reply

    lol ITS FUNNY SPICER always brings these SECOND and THIRD TIER teams into the equation he NEVER MENTIONS WHAT THE BEST TEAMS DO

  53. By Tom Spicer on Dec 16, 2011 | Reply

    Joe, 2nd & 3rd tier teams REALLY? The Ravens are the number 1 seed they beat the Steelers twice. The 49ers are the number 2 seed. Your number 2 team in the league the Saints got beat last year in the playoffs by a 7 & 9 Seahawk team. Also the Packers were 10 & 6 last year. They barely made the playoffs last year as a matter of fact Desean Jackson returns a punt for a TD in the last minute & the Gaints lose to the Eagles & your Packers dont evem make the playoffs is the Giants win that game. The Packers got in & got hot & won it all.

  54. By Tom Spicer on Dec 16, 2011 | Reply

    Joe, Rodgers & Brees dont need to run the ball meanwhile the Saints are the number 8 rushing team in the NFL with 3 good backs in Ingram, Sproles & Thomas & the Packers run for a average of 5 yards per game less than us with 2 good backs in Straks & Grant. CMON MAN!

  55. By Tom Spicer on Dec 16, 2011 | Reply

    Joe, Rodgers & Brees do what they want REALLY? Was Brees doign what he wanted when he got demolished by a 7 & 9 Seahawk team in the playoffs. Was Rodgers doing what he wanted when the Packers were 10 & 6 last year & he was home praying the Giants would lose just so they would make the playoffs? GET REAL!

  56. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 16, 2011 | Reply

    Spicer, I WONDER WHY you try to make the preposterous case that Best, who hasn’t nearly lived up his potential as a runner yet and was only just starting to carry the ball for a decent average, is the key to the Lions’ offense when it’s absurdly obvious that despite injuries, Stafford is carrying the team on his back by way of his 8th-ranked play, besting Sanchez in every category. And before you start distorting wildly on INTs, Stafford’s thrown a mere 3 more in 85 more attempts than MS, and his interception pct is lower than MS’s. And sure the Texans are a running team — now that Schaub, who was throwing his way to a possible MVP, is out for the yr.

  57. By Tom Spicer on Dec 17, 2011 | Reply

    Tom 64, 1 I did not compare Mark to Stafford I never have I said the Lions were a better team when they had a threat of a running game with Best. They were 5 & 1 before he got hurt & are 3 & 4 since then. 2 Arian Foster lead the NFL in rushing last year & this year they have the best 1 2 punch in the NFL with Foster & Ben Tate they are the #2 rushing team in the NFl. They have moved to being a rushing team over 2 years ago NOT when Schaub got hurt. Why did Schaub throw for 400 yards less last year then they year before & he was not hurt. IT WAS BECAUSE THEY BECAME A RUNNING TEAM!

  58. By joe on Dec 17, 2011 | Reply

    SPICER WHETHER like it or not THE PACK GOT TO BE WHERE THEY ARE (WORLD CHAMPS )by throwing the ball The Saints WON IT ALL 2 years ago by throwing the ball WE run the ball and have not won anything in 43 years.You mentioned their running stats BUT FORGOT TO PUT WHERE THEY RANK THROWING THE BALL GO FIGURE.Your in denial (they didnt win their championships by est the run)BECAUSE WE DONT HAVE THE ABILITY THEY DO you make excuses like we dont need to throw it to win.Spicer were all the LOMBARDIS we have USING THIS FORMULA.REX IN A HEARTBEAT WOULD THROW LIKE THEM IF SANCHEZ could they avg over 3o points a game What coach doesnt want 30 points .You got all the answer but their the world champs were not

  59. By joe on Dec 17, 2011 | Reply

    Spicer ROGERS BREES MANNING AND BRADY ARE REGARDED as the best players in the NFL .Heres a clue for you they didnt attain such status by handing the ball off

  60. By joe on Dec 17, 2011 | Reply

    PS Spicer since GB was 10-6 LAST YEAR GOT HOT AND WON IT ALL how has this year been going for them.I tell you how NOW BEING LOOKED AT AS ONE OF THE GREATEST TEAMS IN NFL HISTORY.THEY DONT DO IT BY RUNNING THE BALL

  61. By Tom Spicer on Dec 18, 2011 | Reply

    Joe, IF they win it all & go undefetated THAN they will be considered one of the best teams of all time. Until then they are just another team!

  62. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Dec 18, 2011 | Reply

    Schaub was on pace to throw for a whole lot of yards and TDs this yr before he got hurt, Spicer, though of course the kind of running game they have didn’t hurt. Meanwhile, Stafford beat the Raiders almost single-handedly today, throwing for almost 400 yards again, almost 200 of them to Johnson. At that rate, the Lions are going to get to the big one with him faster than we will with Sanchez.

  63. By Tom Spicer on Dec 19, 2011 | Reply

    Tom 64, Did I say something wrong about Stafford or did I say they were a better team when they had a threat of a running game?

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