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Jets’ 1st-Round Draft Order, 2012 List of Opponents

Posted by Randy Lange on January 2, 2012 – 2:26 pm

The NFL today released two important pieces of information for the 2012 season. The first is the tentative first-round draft order.

And unlike the previous two seasons when the Jets were stuck in the 29th/30th slots due to their advance to the AFC Championship Games, this year the Green & White are in the middle of the pack.

The Jets’ first-round selection is 16th overall. They received that slot right around the first rounds midway point due to their finish in a pack of seven 8-8 teams. The ties for draft position are broken by strength of schedule, with the weaker SOS teams selecting first. The Jets, with a .500 strength of schedule (128-128), came in right in the middle of this septet, with that rung being No. 16.

In succeeding rounds, clubs in a tied segment move up one position, with the team at the top of the tied segment dropping to the bottom. That means that at the moment in Round 2 the Jets would select 47th, then in Round 3 they’d come in at 78th.

We still don’t have the Jets’ official list of draft picks but we’ll pass that on as soon as we can.

The other 2012 info is the official release of each team’s list of opponents. We posted the unofficial list of foes at the end of Sunday night’s Jets-Dolphins game story (and corrected an early error — the Jets will host San Diego as the No. 2 team from the AFC West, not Oakland).

For those who missed it, the Jets’ 2012 opponents, which include the four teams from each of the AFC South and NFC West, are:

Home — Buffalo, Miami, New England, Houston, Indianapolis, San Diego, Arizona, San Francisco.

Away — Buffalo, Miami, New England, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, Seattle.

And although the opponents’ strength of schedule is not a strong indicator of how tough a team’s schedule will be, many like to get an idea of the strength of that schedule anyway. And the above opponents have a combined SOS of .492 (126-130).


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203 Responses to “Jets’ 1st-Round Draft Order, 2012 List of Opponents”

  1. By Karan on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    Rex needs to start calling the defensive plays again. I think we should draft a RT first, like Matt Kalil. He’s a LT in college, but a transition to RT can be made, right??? He would probably be gone though from picks 1-10. I would love to have Jericho Cotchery back along with Braylon Edwards. I was a big fan of Holmes but after his prima donna like actions yesterday, I say cut the guy. Cotchery, Edwards, Kerley would make for a great combo. I still like Plax, don’t know if he’ll be back. I would like to keep Bart Scott for his leadership but the guy hasn’t really done much, so it wouldn’t be the biggest deal if he’s not back next season. Also, please re-sign Rob Turner,Brodney Pool,Patrick Turner and most importantly,LT, Jimmy and Pouha!!!

  2. By Karan on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ohhh, you know who would be a great replacement for Holmes?? DeSean Jackson! The Jets should really target this guyy. Imagine this as the starting lineup: either Plaxico, Jackson and Kerley, or Edwards, Jackson, Kerley, or Cotchery, Edwards and Kerley??? Hmm, I’m thinking too much about this, loll.

  3. By Jets fan since 1997 on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    Good only one west coast road trip. 2011 schedule killed us. The three game road trip, all the way to Oakland, then a primtime grudgematch against the Ravens who wanted to punch us in the mouth this year and did.Although on the opening kickoff the Ravens fumbled and recovered barley. If we got that ball Im betting the season wouln’t be ending right now. But then sunday nighter against the Pats then a thursday game all the way out in Denver?! I still think its payback for all the things the Jets did in 2010. Hards knocks, the latina reporter, braylon dui, and all of Rex’s craziness. Oh well Go Jets!

  4. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    Is it my imagination or is that the easiest Jet schedule in some yrs? No matter, unless big changes are made I can already hear Rex after the games, “You gotta give the Rams credit…” Re big changes, Cimini reports Jets have given Schotty permission to talk to the Jags about the HC job, so that’s something to be grateful for. He also suggests the Jets would rather let Schotty go than fire him, which is something I’ve suspected and said on this site for yrs. IF it’s true that upon getting the HC job Rex was asked to keep Schotty, why would Rex expose himself by trying to fire the guy? The much smarter move would be to wait until the guy who told you to keep him either fires him or lets him go, then say, “Okay, THIS time I want MY OWN OC.”

  5. By Alex G on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    Well it looks like we go a huge break in the 2012 schedule, by the way Happy new Year to the Radar Crew. I cannot believe the Meltdown that took place the last 3 games let alone the season ,but the last 3 losses this team showed no heart ,no spirit ,no fight.Sanchez I have to say as young as is is is not our solution ,unless the JETS can find 2 every down backs like foster mendenhall bradshaw etc.L.T a finesse runner past his prime and Greene who shows signs of life but is not an every down back.+ a TE + o-line help,Rex needs to chill out with the tongue and win some games with class and style.. silence is golden Rex learn from Belichick speak with WINS. Jets need a major over haul Iove them but will be weary if no real changes are made

  6. By Jetsfan on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    Shotty and his dink and dunk must go sorry but he is a QB killer any good ones turn to crap when he gets them .I was at a game and shotty pulled sanchez after he threw an interception and sanchez pulled away like hs doesn”t have to listen to him .Shotty has no control over sanchez at all. I thought of him as a spoiled little bratt I was on the side line when it happend.And what about the QB we got from alabama macenroy in preseason he was 3 times better then sanchez at least he could throw the ball .I hope he can gets away from the jets before shotty ruins him to with the dink and dunk.Evan Farve hated his play calling with the dink and dunk .Well rex it was great but u will be gone after next yr I said get rid of shotty sence 2005.

  7. By Chicago Bob on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    Bringing in DeSean Jackson is like bringing in a clone of Santonio Holmes – the guy is a cancer. We need to start clearing the locker room of them. If you want a ORT, look towards free agency – we need someone who is established to come in and play there in 2012. Face it, the only way we are going to the Super Bowl is to get home field advantage and the only way to do that is to knock off New England – this is not going to happen until we put Brady on his tail. The teams that beat New England are the teams that can pressure him. We cannot do that with our front 7 – draft another DE and an OLB and let’s start beating this guy up – aren’t we all sick and tired of watching Brady stand back there with all the time in the world? GET A PASS RUSH!

  8. By scjoe on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    Just listened to the joint presser and all that double talk was an insult to my football intelligence. I will give both the benefit of the doubt because I know that NOTHING is going to be addressed one day after the end of the season, but I will be staying tuned. The OC, QB, and the offense in general absolutely have to be addressed, please don’t give me all of those politically correct comments because it lends me to believe both of you believe they are true when we all know they are not.

  9. By joe on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    Yea lol iam sure whoever they get in here as new oc is going to give SANCHEZ ABILITYS (pocket awareness field prescence -ability to throw the ball) downfield) HE doesnt have .WHERE THEY GETTING THIS OC FROM FANTASYLAND

  10. By joe on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    ps WOW WE GET THE 16 OVERALL PICK .Whoever they draft iam sure were going to be able to add them to the list of HALL OF FAMERS TO BE WHICH INCLUDES Clemons Gholsten Sanchez Wilson Duccasse

  11. By scjoe on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    The 2012 schedule is favorable. The one west coast trip to Seattle will be tough. I hope it comes early in the year. The team that I believe will be one of the teams to beat in 2012 would be the Cincinnati Bengals. With their 2 first round picks and the return of their slot receiver who missed the entire year (Jordan Shipley) who will definitely make Dalton AND AJ Green better players. I like their defense and they will also be getting Hall (CB) back of IR. Watch out for this team.

  12. By scjoe on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    I just can not see Shotty getting the HC job in Jax or anywhere else, not after the way this offense performed this season. True, it may not have been entirely his fault but he was the OC I hope I am wrong on that one though.

  13. By Chicago Bob on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    It is easy for everyone to blame Sanchez – yes, he did make some awful decisions however let’s remember the two guys responsible for helping him develop (Schotty & Cavanaugh) don’t exactly have great track records of developing quarterbacks. Up until this year, Bear fans were ready to run Jay Cutler out of town due to all of the interceptions and the lack of accuracy however they addressed the offensive line and finally got him some protection and up until he got hurt, they were 7-3 and he was having a tremendous year so before we toss Sanchez to the side, lets see what he can do with a new offensive staff and a right tackle that does not resemble a turnstile.

  14. By commentman on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    I agree with Jetsfan, definitely give McElroy a chance, that kid showed a lot of heart last year in the preseason, he literally got killed every pass but wouldn’t stop looking down field. And then when we were down by like 7 against the Eagles or Texans he started driving down the field, and when the 3rd team offense called a timeout he called them all over and started giving a speech, thats pretty impressive even if the game didn’t count. Let him and Sanchez fight for the starting job just like Kellen Clemens and Sanchez did, only this time we will have an OC who won’t make the QB look horrible.

  15. By Jet24 on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    I think the jets trade their pick to the rams or the panthers, somebody who doesnt have great Wrs and give em holmes and maybe bart for their pick and we get RG3 or a an RB or just getting a big name player, another person I like if we cant trade is well im spacing right now but the CB from LSU.and then we pick up braylon. I think we let shotty go and move tom moore to OC. Also I hear mike petinne and matt cavanaugh might go for head coaching jobs so the jets gotta try to keep them. If we trade bart I think we switch our D to a 4-3 because then we would have pace, harris, and bryan thomas and if they get tired we have great subs in mayhem, manga (he changed his name), and westerman. and our starting big guys would be sionne, wilkerson, devi

  16. By Jet24 on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    to and dixon. sorry they cut my comment in half

  17. By John on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    NY Jets offseason MUSTS. #1- Someway somehow, make sure Brian Schottenheimer IS GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!! #2- You draft an outside linebacker with the 16th pick (Courtney Upshaw would be my choice) #3 Sign a good quality starting Right Tackle in Free Agency and keep Hunter as a backup. #4- find a speedy back in the draft or free agency like the one you let go (Leon Washington) dont let that bite you in the @$$ again. #5- if theres a very good ILB available in the late 1st round, MAKE A TRADE FOR HIM! #6 if Mark Barron is available in the mid 20s picks, trade for him instead of an ILB.

  18. By scjoe on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    Tom Spicer, and a few others. I don’t know if you happened to read Stephen Smiths article on ESPN.com today, if you didn’t you should, it tells alot about how many of these “experts” (for the lack of a better term,) feel about the QB situation on the NY Jets today.

  19. By Ray on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    First off, like him or not, Sanchez is going to be the qb here for at least the next year if not two. That is just the way it is. The only hope I have is that whatever offense we run next year it is one more suited to his strengths. After listening to the presser, I feel certain that Rex is trying to wait and hope that someone hires Schotty away before he has to demote or fire him. Best thing that happened was missing the playoffs, we are better served with a higher draft position. Now keep all the picks and fill holes.

  20. By Jeff on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    Can someone tell me why we are playing at seattle again and playing arizona at home again? We played at seattle and hosted arizona in 2008 and it is supposed to rotate and has rotated home and away since nfl when to this new schedule with 4 four team divisions in each conference. Thanks.

  21. By Another Tom on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    There are some talented Free agent Wrs..but they are also selfish prima donnas..Stevie Johnson..D Jackson..We have to target high character guys to improve our roster..Lets bring in the Polians!

  22. By Garrett on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ummm I thought the Jets were playing Seattle at home this year since last time they played it was in Seattle and the game against Arizona was a home game in 08 when Smith hit Boldin??? Doesnt seem right they should have to go to Seattle twice in 4 years.

  23. By Jet fan in eagle country on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    With this season done I’m kinda torn with the decision that were made. I truly thought that letting our key leaders the previous 2 season go would be an issue. Jones and Cochery where two guys you can say motivated not only with there words but with there actions. Edwards we let go to sign Holmes and to find out what a cancer he is. Edwards with the trouble he had would have never quit. I think it is really easy to blame Sanchez on his decision making but when you getting killed from your right side constantly you think you would help Turner out on that side. Have Keller bump and run . Lt is a class act and I will be sad if it is his last year. Well there is always next year ….. I hate saying that.

  24. By Another Tom on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    predictable presser from captain obvious [Rex]…We should do what the Bengals did…part ways with the trouble makers and prima donnas..draft wisely and get a fresh start while staying competetive..thats the Blue print

  25. By GaryC on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    Kalil will not be there when jets select,and he will not be a right tackle, his agent knows left tackles are paid more and that is what he will be drafted as,which is what he is anyway.

  26. By GaryC on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    the pidgeons sure came home to roost, you take these shortcuts and it takes longer to get on home,in this case the super bowl.

  27. By GaryC on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    let’s forget Lt,you cannot keep a guy on the roster for sentimental reasons;the jets need to learn to say goodbye to these golden oldies, Tomlinson, Burress,Scott,Bryan Thomas amongst others.

  28. By IRA on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    Well this year was a huge failure. Funny had a feeling coming out of camp this team wasn’t as good as last year and it played out that way. If not for romo and Johnson this team would’ve been 6-10. They have a lot of work to do. I think one of the most important things they need to do is keep or get some veteran leadership. I hope they keep LT i think he could still help out.
    I think this team will be in a major rebuilding year next year unless Mr T scores a few free agents in the offseason.
    Funny how Scott said they weren’t a playoff team and it played out that way.
    Sorry to say i am not shocked they didn’t get to the SB i never thought they would this year. But to finish with a 3 game collapse like 93-97 and 2000 was a shock.

  29. By I LOVE NYJETS NATION on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    okay first YES we got the 16 pick we should draft if avalible lamicheal james if he is not still around draft a right tacle. in free agency you must sign revis (if he is a free agent) second person you sign is your sack leader aaron maybin then you sign LT if you cant get a RB in the draft,then you sign braylon edwards ,then you sign plaxico who should of been an all star release these players,donald strickland,gerald alexzander,etc. sign patrick turner ,bart scott ,please read this ny jets owner GM mike T rember drew brees is a free agent cut mark sanchez ,santonio holmes and you could sign drew brees to a one year deal

  30. By Larry on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Randy, how come we’re going to play at Seattle again? I thought it switches every time

  31. By Randy Lange on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    To Larry and a few others who have asked, I’ll have a blog later today explaining why the Jets are going back to Seattle four years after their last trip in 2008.

  32. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    Yes, scjoe, that press conference seemed to come not from Florham Park but D.C., where endless excuses and repetitious rhetoric are the usual responses to lousy numbers and lack of progress. If Mr T and Rex are allowed to skate this way on their huge lack of vision, both overall and in terms of individual players, I can feel an era of low expectation, Jet Fan Hibernation coming on, at least for myself. Like when the Jets kept believing that Chad’s arm was still healthy enough for a starting QB in the NFL. Come to think of it, this Schotty guy was the OC then, too. Oh well, nobody will ever convince me that Rex is on the cutting edge of 2012 football. 1942, maybe. I don’t doubt that he’d like a new OC, but it’s the one from the 1958 Colts.

  33. By JET FAN SINCE 1968 on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    TO THE JETS MANAGEMENT – NOTICE : MARK BURRELL SERVES NO PURPOSE – GET SOME REAL COMPETITION AT THE QB POSITION – SANCHEZ NEEDS TO HAVE SOME COMPETITION. PLEASE – PLEASE- PLEASE – GET SOME COMPETITION AT THE QB POSITON. IF YOU FEEL THE NEED TO KEEP BURRELL AROUND -”OK”. FIND SOMETHING FOR HIM TO DO. JUST PLEASE GET A “REAL BACK -UP QB” WHO CAN COMPETE AT THE POSITON. THANK YOU – JET FAN SINCE 1968 AND WILL BE FOR LIFE!

  34. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    Completely agree, GaryC, as do more and more players and sportswriters around the NFL. The Jets will get precisely nowhere by pretending that business as usual and holding onto mediocre vets will get us anywhere next yr. After all, that’s exactly what we did this yr, the only reason nobody made that much noise about it is because all the noise was over the strike. On Cimini’s “Take ‘Em or “Trash Em” Vote, Greene, Keller, and Kerley score almost as high as Revis and Mangold, while Sanchez is running 53-47 Trash. (Holmes is 77-23 Trash.) So the good news is that Jet fans are starting to realize that some of our better younger players are being held back by Rex (who’s running 66-34 Take, though I voted Trash), his antics, and his dishonesty.

  35. By I LOVE NYJETS NATION on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    you could trade santonio holmes and your 16th overall draft pick to someone like the browns or rams for a WR justin blackmon or a RB like trent richardson or a QB like Robert grifenn the 3rd !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but you must sign plaxico , patrick turner ,aaron maybin,LT ,and jerhico crotchery,maybe braylon edwards maybe bart scott but rember you could draft lamicheal james with a 16 pick or trade for a QB or Justin blackmon

  36. By knucklehead on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    how about some speed at lb and secondary? it’s funny how the big news is next years opponents and 1st round draft pick like someone is trying to deflect the attention away from what is really wrong with this team. oh well, it is a business and as long as they are making money they’ll be content. i guess winning and losing only matters to the fans. if you really want to send a message then stop wasting $$$ on these peolple.

  37. By jetfan74 on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    Trade down if possible and aquire more early round picks this year. I like the idea of trading Holmes and Scott, but due to bloated contracts I wish Trader Mike a lot of luck on that front!!! Anything at RT would be an upgrade. Can we please get some help in the middle of the field on defense?

  38. By Kevin on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    Draft needs OL , Running back, pass rush, saftey. Hard to get all that in one draft. Hit free agency hard and cover these areas. line improves makes the run improve and our QB is above average again. The D was bad this year regardless of a #7 rank. remember they gave up a 95 yard drive to Denver. no rush without sending the house would be nice. Its fine to believe in your team Coach Ryan but throw in a bit of reality would ya. No matter what level a coach is on he knows the talent level and what they can do or not do. Its ok to say you want to go to the Bowl but say like if it all comes together we can get there, not we are going.

  39. By Mike C (fan since '69) on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    Dear Woody… It’s broken, you need to fix it. Did you see how the other Metlife Stadium team performed on O & D, on Sunday night? Wish we could be like that. Starting to think, as others have already posted, that it may be time for a new HC… someone who can bring class back to the organization… someone who knows how to run a west coast offense (can we get Jon Gruden out of his TV contract?)… and someone who does not insult our intelligence making empty boasts/promises. The only bright spot for the tri-state area fans was not having to drive home after watching that mess. Unbelievably for me, even down here in Alabama, I have had to hear it from Pats fans. Oh well, Happy New Year Jets fans … after Feb 5th, we’re all undefeated.

  40. By AZ JET Fan on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    I’m wondering the same thing about the Schedule. Host Arizona twice in four years and travel to Seatle twice in four years? Jets have only played in Arizona twice in 25 years.

  41. By Vittus on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    Please get rid of Mathew Mulligan he makes so many mental mistakes .. Also Wayne Hunter will always be a back-up. My last wish is two new young OLBs, Pace and Thomas is gettin too old.

  42. By Howie D on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    I’ll say it again, it’s premature to start guessing where we’ll end up by looking at the 2012 schedule. Cool your Jets folks. The only thing we know now is that we’re an 8-8 team. That’s what we are, until we prove otherwise. Speculating which team is strong or weak is a mistake. Namath’s right, we’re not as good as we think. Let’s keep that in mind and work toward improving the team.

  43. By JETSFANSINCE74 on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    everyone does like to blame the qb and the oc, but that is just how it is. The bottom line is, is sanchez getting better at making crucial decisions on taking care of the football and is schottenheimer putting him in that position all year? The answer is no, having him pass with 25 seconds left before half which led to a huge field goal that cost us the game but not the season made me lose my mind. I said it before in preseason on facebook, macelroy looks much better than sanchez because he was coached by a better oc and qb coach in college and played the same amount of time basically. And I feel rex is sincere and takes full responsibility for letting this team slip away which is what happened. We have the talent we need to play harder.

  44. By Donovan G. on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    With the 16th pick the JETS need to pick Ronnell Lewis. I know I might scratch some heads but go look at film. This guy is an OLB/Pass Rusher that runs a 4.48 with the ability to also cover which westerman/ bryan thomas and even pace can’t do. Another plus is the fact that oklahoma runs a 3-4 defense so there’s not added pressure to learn the 3-4 scheme just RR’s plays.O yea i fogot to mention he’s a HITTER and can play ST’s for westy. He’s rated the number 6 linebacker but that means nothing because the other Lb’s dont fit the JETS team/needs!

  45. By Noah on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    There are so many holes and horrendous contracts on this roster I have no idea where the Jets should start, but here I go. Ok, Sanchez is making 14 million against the cap next year, and although the fair weather fans want to kill Sanchez for the teams’ woes, he is not the immediate problem. Sanchez making 14 million next year when he is really only worth 6 or 7million, is crippling. Bart Scot I half way expect to be starting next year at middle linebacker in a wheel chair, he is old and keeps getting older, oh and by the way, he is grossly overpaid. 7 million against the cap. Crippling. But our geriatric wing of the Jets linebacking crew is not complete without mentioning Calvin Pace. Where did this guy disappear to?

  46. By Donovan G. on Jan 2, 2012 | Reply

    I meant 4.68 my bad Only thing bad is he’s only 244 lbs

  47. By TONY GARCIA on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Draft make some trades,this team does not have to be taken apart.

  48. By tommyohio on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    safe to say shotty is going to take hc job somewhere but you cant blame him for calling dink and dunk plays …heck MS cant even complete those plays, how do expect him to air it out and remember Brady makes a living off the 5 to 7 yard screen pass ,Marks inabilitys to do anything was pretty sad dont blame holmes for gettin mad hes had big ben who makes thing happen ,he was probably thinking after second pick whats the poin in trying, hell just have another pick and he did ,BTW Green looked super ticked off after some of those horrible passes , Green and a couple other guys were shaking theyre heads at MS in discuss, I personally liked when they showed him on the bench after third pick ,he was like aaa no big deal what a joke ,hes no leader

  49. By EricM on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    The Jets need more big plays down the field, need a big, explosive, fast wide receiver, sign or draft a couple. Someone a little bigger than Victor Cruz. Our deep threat in 2010 was Braylon Edwards. Ground and pound this year wasn’t that good this year, we did not have the same offensive line. Mark Sanchez doesn’t trust his WR too much? only Keller. Mark is not getting good reads for 15+ yard passes. Mark seems confused and indecisive. Jets better play calling on offense. They usually start off the game/drive with two runs and a short/screen pass, guess what? They go 3 and out. Puts too much pressure on our defense. Other teams are playing the Jets to always run or short/screen pass. 2012/Draft priority: WR, a tall Safety, offensive linemen

  50. By tommyohio on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    draft some guys that will be real jets like j co was or wayne chrebet ,picking up the loud mouth trouble makers that other teams pass on in their prime isnt the answer, there is a reason pitts let holmes go and the giants didnt want plax back ,bengals are much better off with out the loud mouth type hope for the best is all we can do and i guess get ready for baseball seson lol

  51. By bill on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    I’m 52 years old this month and I’ve watched the Jets since I was 8 years old. If the Jets don’t fire Schottenheimer I am through with this team. After 7 years or total ineptness on offense I simply have exhausted my patience with the stupidity of it. Everyone in and out of the NFL knows the guy can’t run an NFL offense except for Jets management. I can’t believe you guys are saying he might get a head coaching job. Other teams wouldn’t hire Schotty to make their gatorade, because he would make it one cup at a time.

  52. By Leroy on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    They should get more speed on defense that is how they got embarrsssed by the Eagles the Eagles Personnell isnt that good the Jets Personell is that bad They need a Pass Rush and to think they actually cut Maybin and he single handedly one at least to games with a forced fumble or a sack i think they also may need a new GM i dont know about Mike T evaluation of talent look at Kendrick Ellis look at Decausse ,Hunter,and we dont know if Wilkerson is a bust yet ? must i go on

  53. By Leroy on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Keep Plax .Santonio,Kurly,and add a speedster at least wideouts and sign or trade for anothe big runningback and LT comming back is not a bad idea Peyton Manning is a disaster waiting to happen Schotty and Peyton not going to work and one hit with that Offensive line and his career will be over that isnt an option now Mathis could help the Pass rush and add some one else they need to cut Pace,Scott ,Smith i am not sold on Kyle Wilson a waste again Mr.T.Shonn Grenne isnt the runner he used to be so you need another power runner to back him up or start LT is nice but yo need another big back more important and rebuild that offensive line the Jets need a big powerful line that will pound the ball on the ground then sanchize can QB

  54. By MikeyD on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Look, almost every team has a hiccup or so. This year has been a tough one to swallow but I see a silver lining. I think the charade is over and its time to go to work next year. Attack this upcoming season as a business. Keep Holmes (he is a beast when firing on all cylinders) and problems can be fixed. Everyone loses their cool when they lose and are frustrated. Ax Schotty, let Bart go, re sign LT for one year, Braylon Edwards 2.0, draft a pass rusher with a pulse, trade up for a premier back or safety and work on Sanchez. The kid has had one lousy year. Ease up.

  55. By MikeyD on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    The AFC East will be the Jets to own for years to come. Buffalo and Miami have almost accepted losing as a way of life. We are younger than NE who has shown signs of slipping. Two straight home games giving up early 17 plus points has had Brady playing catch up. The Jets over achieved the past two seasons and havent had a losing season since 2007. I’m not panicking just yet. Let’s see what this draft and off season has to offer.

  56. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    For those who keep saying we shouldn’t have “let J-Co go,” Myers reports that one of the reasons J-Co took a pay cut to go to the Steelers is because he “couldn’t bear to enter the Jets’ receivers room.” That doesn’t reflect terribly well on Holmes OR Edwards OR Rex OR even Sanchez, who increasingly strikes me as a boy in a man’s job. All you folks who keep saying that “Mark doesn’t need to be elite” should keep something in mind: One of the only ways any 22-yr-old kid out of college gets to run an NFL offense filled with veterans is by simply blowing everybody away with his play, i.e. by making clear pretty quickly that he’s going “to be elite.” Merely competent “game management” doesn’t command that kind of respect, especially 3 yrs in.

  57. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    P.S. On the Daily News’ “Keep Him or Dump Him” vote, Sanchez is 59-41 Dump and Rex is only 57-43 Keep. Two of the highest-rated players in that version of this poll are Kerley at 93-7 Keep and McKnight at 81-19 Keep. Sounds to me like some Jet fans wouldn’t have much of a problem with a complete overhaul of the team in the name of youth and speed and with putting Sanchez on a very short leash next yr. Unfortunately, lots of dreamers (65-35 Keep) still seem to cling to this illusion that Jim Leonhard can start at S in a league in which teams increasingly use two TE’s who are both almost a foot taller than him. And the team that does that the best finished 5 games ahead of us this yr in our division.

  58. By Mats on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    IMO they should get a runningback, or an offensive lineman. In the later rounds they should get a blocking tight end tho, someone who can actually move some people. (Hey, maybe the Dolphins Starks can help out? Atleast he can catch Sanchez’s passes atleast ;)).

    And snatch Flynn from GB :P

  59. By malcolm husing on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    how come jets alway go away to pitburgh for long time .i wish pittburgh come to jets home .

  60. By Allan O'Dane on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Rex said “I didn’t have the pluse of the team”..duh! you think. You let go of so many leaders what did you expect? Rex delagated so much he had no clue what was going on right in front of his face. This Jets was in shambles…look at all the fighting that went on this season…moore..holmes..hunter..mulligan…This team did not trust each other offense and defense. This team did not trust the coaches either. Rex needs to stop crying and stop trying to be everybodys friend and just coach. Break out the whip when you have to. LT said it all in a nutshell “You don’t have to like me..but you have to respect me and your teamates”

  61. By wayne on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    What has Schottenheimer done to warrant being a head coach? Teams pick HCs from winning situations………..Trying to think of ONE QB that was successfully developed under the OC, ONE. Brees got started after bolting SD…….No one in this organization stands for anything. Instead of calling out Holmes, Rex pleaded ignorance…..Instead of manning up, they want someone to hire Schottenheimer so they don’t have to do their job……WHY’S HE STILL AROUND? BECAUSE HE HAS THE “PEDIGREE”. Because of his pop. That’s the reason Rex gives. And because he’s a hard worker…………………Results are obviously irrelevant…..It will only get worse with Tannenbaum and Ryan “leading” this organization.

  62. By ANDREW on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    LAVONTE DAVID. REX NEEDS TO GET HIM FIRST ROUND HE IS AMAZING.

  63. By russ on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    to all the couch coaches of the NY Jets…if we dont prssure qb we stay on field a long time…..If we cant protect quarterback we cant diverify our offense,like run screens and draws, and losers showboat after a touchdown,,…get rid of low character players…I’ll take a chrebet, welker, woodhead over any Holmes of Burriss any day…

  64. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Randy seems not to have liked a conclusion I drew about Rex based on recent events, so I’ll rephrase it in Myers’ words. Myers writes that Rex is to blame for this season on many levels and he specifically cites how absurd it is for Rex to not know, or to claim to not know, why we threw 59 times vs. the Giants and whether Holmes was in the MIA game or not. tommyohio, did you see that moment between Sanchez and Greene in the Giant game when MS said something to him on the sideline and when he was done, SG turned and shook his head like MS was nuts? And will you folks explain to me why you think Edwards and especially J-Co are so anxious to return to this team? Mats, I’m still wondering how MS could throw 2 picks to a defensive lineman…

  65. By bill on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    And another thing. What is it with the Jets and the players they draft at skill positions? For example, quarterbacks must be short and have weak arms. Running backs must never have breakaway speed and if they do, they must be relagated to special teams or the bench. We cannot draft speed at WR either, because we’d rather trade for slower WR’s near the end of their careers.

    Other teams draft fast players at the skill positions, draft tall QB’s with powerful arms. But the Jets know better. They trade up 20 spots to draft a kid with one year of college experience that can’t hit a running back 4 yards away and is afraid or can’t throw the ball down field. And Fire Schotty now! He doesn’t know what he is doing and it’s obvious.

  66. By MarkP@JetsReality on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Thank god for Santonio Holmes! Had the guts to vent his frustration not going vertical. Kerley has 1 less pass completion than MS over 40 yds. Disgraceful! Keller doesn’t get enough criticism. He led team in receptions but too many balls hit off his hands & helmet. His rep out of college was making circus catches. All his catches are mediocre. A major disappointment. Why does everyone say DeVito is solid. He had 1 sack this year & I saw no QB pressures. Jets have got to keep playmakers on the field, i.e.: Kerely,Maybin,Josh Baker,Turner,Ropati & Dixon. Too much politics with Mike T. playing high draft picks. Don’t blame E. Smith for everything. He hits hard & tackles (except V.Cruz). Just not a starter!
    Get rid of Westoff.He is awful.

  67. By Tom from Bricktown on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    who do we play next week

  68. By kleckofan on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    If this whole mess isn’t total spin then we are in real trouble…for yrs! I’m choosing to take Adam Schein’s report that he (and others) knows Schotty is as good as gone. If this team takes the approach that all the parts are here and chemistry just needs to be fixed than we are screwed. I keep saying that Tanny is a huge problem, watching him talk is like listening to a bar room fantasy league conversation…no professionalism, no standards, stands for nothing, no vision. Its incredible to tune in to SNY and listen to Ray Lucas and my man Klecko absolutely rip Sanchez and Schotty…say what you will about all of us arm chair GM’s, but these guys played the game and are speaking on the Jets Network!

  69. By Rob on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Might the Jets have any interest in Nick Toon of Wisconsin. Son of former Jets great Al Toon? I think he would be a later round pick from everything I am reading. At 6-3 218 he is a big target with some speed.

  70. By GaryC on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    WE NEED A BAILOUT, FASSEL,FASSEL,FASSEL.Nice effort by Scott extending his middle finger in the locker room, more effort than he showed all year.Maybe this year will bring some good to this mess,Rex now knows he can’t bring loose cannons into the locker rooms,do not delegate authority to players who don’t deserve it.

  71. By GaryC on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    to all the giant fans on this site, we know you want plastico on jets to sabotage our passing game,you know he is past his prime and that your organization was smart not to bring him back,that he would slow down your receiving corp and you would have never found the time to get the reps to cruz and show that he had the goods.We know now that you were right and us jet fans got hornswaggled,but now can you take him back and we will throw in Holmes to boot.

  72. By KevinK on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    This was a crazy season, from the scheduling to the little things in a game. The lack of penalties called for late hits on Mark Sanchez, is incredible. Von Miller crushed him, no penalty, but a nice fine, just as one example. We need to stretch the field, get behind the linebackers with passes. Holmes and Edwards did in 10, but we could not in 11? The O line has issues, and needs to be addressed. We also need defensive backfield tacklers, not ball strippers. If the news conference is true, then we should be a more open offensive team, with a new defensive punch. GO JETS!!!!

  73. By jetsfan on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Woody,
    I understand your best friend is Marty Shottenhiemer so you keep Brian
    but freindship doesn’t win games sorry .I thought once you got rid of mangini and picked rex I said oh good get rid of brian it didn’t happen .Well this is what you get what did you tell rex you can have the job but you have to keep shotty .Well Rex one more year with shotty and you’ll be out a job too.I’ve been saying since 2005.

  74. By Jets28 on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Shotty has to go. Cavanaugh should also be held accountable for Sanchez’s regression as a QB. Even Brunel should be gone next season.

    Holmes’talent does not make up for his attitude and behavior, cut him loose as well.

    From the draft and free agency get a pash rusher, offensive lineman, and a quality catching TE to compliment Keller.

    If Peyton becomes available, get him.

  75. By harry-o on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    football 101
    the game is won and lost on the line of scrimage
    thats where it all starts
    give your QB and RB a chance to make a play
    and not give theirs
    the OL and DL need help but mostly depth
    every year players go down but the back ups aren’t as solid
    give any QB time to throw he’ll find an open target (ie; Brady)
    pressure any QB and he’ll make bad decisions (ie: Sanchez)
    I expect a lot of changes before the season and during the season if some players under perform ,no more excuses for MS after 3+ yrs the experiment is over

  76. By GaryC on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Jet Fan Tom, you still think when Holmes took that picture at his house with all that steeler gear he knew what he was doing, he was trying to stir the pot even then.

  77. By Zach CT on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Character Guys,
    This team need more players like jim leonhard and aaron maybins then s.holmes. I trade Holmes to whoever will give you anything for him. I’d keep Plax and Sign braylon edwards. For the love of god will you guys draft a brooks reed/clay matthews type player someone who will go flying around….this team needs a major overhaul….give me a player with heart over a player with talent anyday of the week….Welker produces, doesn’t talk ( much minus the foot comments) and deserve what we gave Holmes, holmes did nothing no seperation no anything.

  78. By THUNDER LIPS on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    well I called it 8-8. too bad we didn’t lose the cowboy and bills game which we should have, then we would have been 6 and 10 with a better draft pick.

    recipe:

    1. rex wake up and man up.
    2. schotty bye bye
    3. competition for sanchez
    4. pick up a RT, LB, and safety(s)
    5. trade holmes and get a downfield burner

  79. By Frank on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Keeping the beat I started after the Giants game the number one problem with the Jets right now is Rex Ryan. Funny I said he has lost the team a few days ago and that notion seems to be taking hold in NFL circles. He is displaying zero leadership skills and staying the same in not an option. Not having a pulse of your team??? How as the head coach of your team can you not have a pulse of your team?????? THATS YOUR JOB!!!!!!!!!!!Crying and pleading in the farewell meeting…well not exactly the way it should have been handled. REX NEEDS TO GO PERIOD END OF STORY! He may be a good coordinator he has proven loud and clear he is a lousy head coach. He has burned out everyone one around him with his big mouth.

  80. By joe on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Hey SPICER whats with all the reports that EVERYONE under creation(INCLUDING HOW MANY FOOTBALL EXPERTS ON ESPN ) want to dump your BOY Sanchez.Spicer THE MAJORITY OF EXPERTS out there must not know as much about the game as you do.Dont they REALIZE its and or SCHOTTYS FAULT ,OL FAULT ,WRS FAULT .

  81. By Frank on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    As some of you know I now live in south Texas. This morning on 1200 WOAI which is the largest radio station and biggest morning show (not sports show)in San Antonio and broadcasts to Houston and Dallas. The morning crew led by Charlie Parker were absolutely ripping Rex Ryan amongst other things his handling of the Holmes fiasco which clearly went on all last week and his boo hooing pleading at his year end meeting it was embarrassing being a Jet fan. You listening to this TanWoody???? Is that what you want as the face of this organization? Virtually every where you look this team is ridiculed and demonized because of Rex. He has embarrassed this organization with his off the field antics and lack of management skills he NEEDS TO GO!!!!!!!

  82. By Herman Quito on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Look as much as how dissapointed I am I think another major factor of the dissapointing season was getting rid of veteran players. Guys like Cotchery, Edwards, and most importantly Ellis were given away when they were major weapons. I say we have to try and be smarter with the roster and if possible get these guys back. As for the draft i say we get someone who can be a good outside reciver, and someone who can put some fear on defense.

  83. By joe on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    pS SPICER who cares if HE (SANCHEZ )finished in the bottom third of the leagdue in QB rating .Who cares if he only threw 15 passes for more than 30 yards the entire year .Who cares if he almost set a record for total qb turnovers .Who cares if he had NUMERIOUS INTERCEPTIONS TO INTERIOR DLINEMAN ON CHECKDOWNS .You HAD BETTER RELAY your excuse list to all the above

  84. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Wait, Wayne, we drafted Erik Ainge, he had good size and a big arm…oh, and a lifelong drug problem, which somehow we didn’t find out about. Frank, Randy or somebody has been censoring much of what I’ve said about Rex now for most of the yr, certainly justifiably given how angry I’ve been at times. But I’m glad your post got thru because anyone who thinks this guy is anything but a cartoon depiction of a HC is dreaming, I’ll take Pacino in ANY GIVEN SUNDAY over him. kleckofan and joe, thanks for keeping it up on Sanchez, I don’t say he’s absolutely hopeless but what he’s done so far, basically the same yr or worse 3 yrs in a row, is so far below what you expect from a #5 pick that to just keep saying, “Mark’s the starter” is ridiculous

  85. By anthony from yonkers on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    The season was a disappoinment but dont forget, we had 2 chances for our qb to win a game, 5 minutes left at the 50 against the giants and driving down the field against Miami and another pick, could of been 10 and 6. I think offensive coaching had allot to do with our failures. Yes Sanchez didnt play great but he is a 3rd year qb. They didnt put him in the best position to win. They could of run the ball to take the pressure off of him and play action more and run more screens and take a shot down field.

    Funny thing was Santanio had the ball thrown to him once during the Miami game, you think Sanchez was sending him a message after the reports of Santonio not goiing to his meeting and them getting into an arguement.

  86. By joe on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Jets Fan Since 64 Tom .Sanchez has started 50 plus games .He has approximately 20 years of organized football under his belt.A new oc will put him in a better poition to win a FEW MORE GAMES YES.Will that new OC gives him the tangables (POCKET AWARENESS FIELD PRESCENCE DEEP BALL ABILITY)needed for a qb to win the sb today i just dont think so.Tom like you i watch Rogers Brady Brees ect THOSE guys are so good that it gives their team such an advantage Like you posted before how many more years we going to wait.

  87. By anthony from yonkers on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Also, look at the defensive talent we have, who on our defense scares you? Yes Revis but he is a db. Point is we dont have a game changer on the d line or at LB. We have done it by Rex scheme sooner or later you need players to make plays. Maybin had an impact he just needs to get bigger as he way to light. We have gone to 2 afc championships and we had a bad 8 and 8 year but that could be a god thing as now next year we will come in as an underdog and that will help us a great deal.

    This is what we need, a offensive coorinator, riight tackle, a big safety, a line backer and a pash rusher. We do that we will be right back in it.

  88. By GaryC on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    people are listening to stephen a smith concerning football, the only reason he got that gig was because the nba was on strike so they had to pay him to do something.he couldn’t tell you the difference between RED GRANGE OR HOYLE GRANGER.

  89. By joe on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    PS Tom alot of people on this forum think the most importantperson in an NFL org is the coach .I have a slight difference of opinion the most important person in an NFL ORGANIZATION is the DIRECTER OF PLAYER PERSONAL.Dont get me wrong in our case REX is DOES ALOT OF INNAPPROPIATE things but i think REALLY think he DOES KNOW FOOTBALL.We in the spot were in around here because of ALL THE FAILED DRAFT CHOICES AND BAD FA SIGNINGs.This is the NFL a coach is only as good as the talent provided by the DPP.Look at the Steelers (TOMLEN while ideal for the organization )only wins like he does because of K COLBERT. The STEELERS never have a bad draft (hell they routinely draft pro bowlers in the later rounds )and NEVER SIGN HIGH DOLLAR FA.

  90. By joe on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Many many a superbowl winning coach has been shown the door BECAUSE THEY COULDNT DUPLICATE PRIOR RESULTS.They didnt forget how to coach they just didnt have talent GEORGE SEIFORT JIMMY JOHNSON MIKE SHANNOHAN BRIAN BILLICK Nobody knows this more than Cowher AS HES MADE IT CLEAR that unless a qb (caont capable of winning the sb IS IN PLACE )wouldnt come back.

  91. By joe on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer on your excuse list(NOW GOING ON 40 PLUS YEARS OLD ) is it possible REX brough in some super secret qb GURU to teach Kerley to throw the ball downfield like that and the guy simply forgot to teach Sanchez.You and the other 3-4 members of the SANCHEZ fan club had better look into this fast .

  92. By scjoe on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    GaryC, in the grand scheme of things does it really matter how Stephen Smith got his gig? I think it is safe to say his thoughts are representative of at least half the Jets fans on this site, half the Jets fans in the NY area and half the Jets fans around the country, not to mention half the sports writers, sportscasters and sports “experts” around the country. I also think that the “half” I referenced is being generous.

  93. By scjoe on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Wayne, I am afraid you are 100% right re” Shotty and a HC job. I just don’t see any team out there actually believing he is the answer for their HC vacancy. So, next question is, how do the NY Jets get rid of this guy discreetly? Because it seems to me that the buddy system syndrome runs rampant with in the NY Jets front office.

  94. By SOCALJETFAN on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    They need to bring in a new offensive coordinator,address their Offensive-Line,they were inconsistent from time to time,give SANCHEZ time to find his recievers,he took some hard hits this season,needs better protection from the Offensive -Line…

  95. By jets fan 24 on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    draft ,if avalible LaMicheal james or a OLB OR right takle or that WR that plays for south carolina
    sign maybin,burres,LT,crotchery,robert turner,patrick turner,and LT
    maybe trade santonio holmes and bryan thomas to the rams in the draft for their pick and we could pick up a QB that could challenge sanchez or pick up JUSTIN BLACKMON or even a better RB in trent richardson!!!!!!!!!!!1 cant wait till the draft go jetss

  96. By jets fan 24 on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    oops i mean sign a right tackle not LT cause i put it twice but keep LT

  97. By mike a on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    dont understand how anyone can say that the Jets have an easy schedule in 2013.

    The 6 divisional games are always tough
    Houston won the AFC south & with a healthy Schwab will be tough to beat
    Indy will have a better QB (Manning or Luck)
    San Fran had the 2nd best record in the NFC
    Ariz always play hard
    San Deigo Gonna be a tough one
    @ Pitt where they only won 1 game in Jet history
    @ Jax hopefully easy one
    @ Tenn who fought to the last play of the year
    @ St Louis: Hopefully an easy one
    @ Seattle, Jets always have trouble going out west
    If they dont fix things then were looking at another 8-8 season at best

  98. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    “Trust the tale, not the teller,” GaryC. Smith may not be a football genius but everything he said about Sanchez is undeniable — unless you’re ensnarled in Jets Front Office Denial.

  99. By MiIKE on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Enough Edwards talk. Holmes would of panned out well if Rex would’ve kept the locker room in check. Talent wise SH rivals the best WR in the league but off the field is a problem. Why did Pitt give him up so willingly? Can’t imagine why. Mr.T please do not sign any more FA’s with off the field issues.

    I would take a 4 -12 season next year if SH, Cro, and Plax were gone. Clean house. This kind of stuff would never happen in New England.

  100. By cgb on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    kevin k. makes a good point, while were all complaining about the season anyway. Mark sanchez gets hit late constantly and we never get a call. Mark has taken a beaten this year. But players still get fined by the league office on late hits on mark. And not to mention our lack of pass rush,when we did get close to opposing QB’S we would just have to touch them and we would get called for an illegal hit.This happened more then a couple of times.The truth is though we did not have enough play makers on this team to overcome our lack of disipline and poor leadership and bad officiating.

  101. By cgb on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Many people are jumping on the we hate sanchez wagon just a little to soon i think. The system thats put in place has alot to do with the final outcome on the field. Like a well oiled machine you can almost remove one of the parts and it will still run well. I feel like we have a handfull of varsity players and the rest are JV. When a couple of our varsity players go down we just play like a JV team.

  102. By Prez on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    The Jets need to definitely clean out the locker room. Holmes is not going anywhere. Too much invested in him and Rex feels he can control his players. Unless the Jets get a decent offer for him Holmes is staying. I think if he gets his 80 catches he will be fine. Shotty is the real cancer and I agree a lot of players quit on Rex and Shotty and on Sanchez. Sanchez needs to become a far better leader and control his offense and his players. L.T has to stay, Bart has to stay. Maybin has to come back and the Jets need to draft or trade for an OL and keep Hunter as a back up.

  103. By Tom Spicer on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Harry O, Your qoute “football 101 the game is won and lost on the line of scrimage thats where it all starts give your QB and RB a chance to make a play and not give theirs the OL and DL need help give any QB time to throw he’ll find an open target (ie; Brady) pressure any QB and he’ll make bad decisions” is correct but the problem is sone guys think you dont need a good o line to do well, you dont need a good D, you dont need good WR’S, you just need a QB thats it. I think it is safe to say those guys dont know much about football right?

  104. By Tom Spicer on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Joe, Mark almost set a record for total turnovers REALLY? in Eli’s 4th year (his 3rd full year as a starter) he had more turnovers & THEY WON THE SUPER BOWL THAT YEAR. In Big Bens 3rd full year as a starter he had 1 less turnover. Cutler in his 3rd ful year as a stater he had more turnovers. Last year Eli had 4 more turnovers than Mark had this year that was Elis 7th year. LOL

  105. By Tom Spicer on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Joe, Mark had 5 bombs to Braylon Edwards for over 40 yards last year alone. Did he forget how to throw deep MAGICALLY. Or did the O line not give him the time to throw deep. Did he not have a career high in sacks after 9 games or did I imagine that? Also we had 1 guy with the ability to strecth the field Holmes it is common knowledge that teams gave the corner who was covering Holmes saftey help over the top thus taking away Holmes deep plays.
    Since you are a footballl guru you should know this.

  106. By steve on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    This is any easy schedule? The New York Jets have proven this year that they are a below average football team. The seahawks, rams, titans, colts, etc…these teams should be laughing at us, at least they have won or been to asuper bowl in recent history. We have proven nothing or that we can beat anyone. Schedules should hold no weight on the 2012 Jets.

  107. By GaryC on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    to scjoe and jet fan tom, what I am saying is I don’t need stephen smith telling me about football,YOU two guys can tell me just as much,anyone knows the jets have problems,you won’t even see stephen a. anymore that the basketball season has started.Go let him talk to Spike Lee.

  108. By scjoe on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    cgb…A little to soon?? are you kidding me? Don’t you believe you can get a pretty good indication of a QBs skills after three years in the same system? Almost 60 NFL game starts isn’t enough time? Do you really believe the “system” or the OC is what is holding Sanchez back from becoming at least an average NFL QB? How will a new system or a new OC improve his accuracy issue? How will either improve his “situational awareness?”

  109. By robertpapalia on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    This team needs a receiver who can go long. A big safety who can cover tight ends. A lineman who can rush the qb. A right tackle who can pass block. And most of all it needs Rex Ryan to tone down his rhetoric and concetrate all his energy on taking control of the offense as well as the whole team. If not their will be trouble for him down the road.

  110. By Ron on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Please replace the whole offensive line. NOW!!

  111. By NC on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Draft one or even two of the Stanford players available this year. Can’t get Luck, but there’s the two offensive lineman, and the tight end Fleener. Good players, plus smart and good character. Would help disinfect that toxic locker room.

  112. By joe on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Wow SPICER 5 playS of 40 yards or more the entire year .Rothesburger has that in a few games SPICER Hello lol THANKS FOR MAKING MY POINT AS IN HIS BEST YEARS SANCHEZ cant throw the ball downfield

  113. By joe on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    SPICER Sanchez is ranked as one of the worst starting qb in the NFL (bottom third tier )and your LAMELY TRYING TO RATIONALIZE THINGS Hello SPICER NOBODYS BUYING IT .

  114. By Neal on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    I would say that we need: RT, Safety and a pass rushing lineman or linebacker as the top priorities. I’m really disappointed in the receiving corp this year. Letting Braylon Edwards go was a big mistake but such is life. I think that all Jet fans could go on and on about issues they had this year but I think the attitude was the biggest thing that disappoints me. They just didn’t have the fire in the belly they had the previous year. Rex needs to stop the boast and start motivating them in the team setting. This team needs to grow up and it has to start in the lockerroom and not at the podium anymore.

  115. By Viveca on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    We’re back to being a soap opera. Thought and hoped those days were over. We’ve gone from one extreme to another. A coach(Mangini) who didn’t speak, whose secrecy was borderline paranoid to one who can’t shut up. I for one is fed up with Rex. He seems totally unrealistic about his players, even compared E.Smith to Ed Reed??! Always hyping ordinary players making them into something they ain’t! Who does he think he’s kidding? He should have come down hard on Holmes, instead he’s cuddling him, talking about his greatness. Not sure anymore he’s the leader we need! Would be nice with a HC who just wins quietly and with class!

  116. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    I’ll take the compliment, GaryC, but I still think that most of what Smith said about Sanchez is hard to argue with. And that seems more apparent every day with guys like Boomer weighing in so heavily (one might even say crudely) vs. MS. What bothers me the most now, as I said in another post, is how Rex’s preference for bluster and bloviation, to use another poster’s word for his talk, over insight and action now threatens to take down the whole team. Maybe he was only given the job with all kinds of provisions that are still in place now, like give MS a full 5 yrs, keep Schotty forever, etc. But none of that will work and if those edicts are coming from the top, we haven’t gone as far from the late-era Hess days as we thought we had.

  117. By green island on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Alot of you have alot of strong points on here and alot of these suggestions should be made. DeSean is great but almost like Santonio but not as selfish, to cover it all this is what I think should happen: let Schotty go, let Rex get his own OC, pick up or draft another tackle place wayne hunter as back up again, maybe drop Bart Scott (if he was one of the bad apples from what im hearing supposedly) or Santonio for draft pick for pass rushers like daquan bower or von miller, sign back Edwards and re-sign Buress or sign DeSean (ehhh???) and re-sign Buress. re-sign LT, pouha, leonard,maybin. Only reason i say sign DeSean though is that he is another tall receiver, and we need that combo on both sides, i rather take Braylon though.

  118. By cgb on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe, all im saying is in 2010 when we had a much better defense and 2yrs with just about the same receiving corp mark had ok numbers. Our record was 11-5, made it to afc championship. He was improving from yr 1 performance. This year everything fell apart because we had very poor o-line, and tanny decides to redo the wide receiver corp. so naturally running game gets worse and sanchez has constant pressure on most obvious passing downs. Add in a defense that played worse, therefore sanchez had to play from behind most of the year. Thats why during critical moments of games sanchez played poorly. And thats why were 8-8. Not to mention what we all found out the last 3 games of the season. holmes and rex thing.

  119. By cgb on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe,cont… this year passing yards increased,passing TD;s increased. he also ran for 6 TD;s completion percentage increased. 15 interceptions worse, fumbles too many to count sorry i dont know the stats on that. So i understand his numbers overall are a mixture of good and bad . I think he gets a pass this year for what Tanny did ,for what rex did, for what holmes did. I think he might even be better off with a new OC. We should not try and change to much of the offensive philosophy.I think rex will try and keep that run first concept with a dominant o-line. But it all starts up front on both sides of the ball.

  120. By Ronald on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    Don’t get rid of Holmes as of yet. Sanchez could not lead this team into victory, so Holmes was getting upset. The biggest problem ofthe Jets this year was defense. They could not stop anybody. Trading Lawry was a big mistake and if Rex isn’t calling the defensive play that was even a bigger mistake. Rex believe too much in Santa Clause the offense cause Sanchez may not be able to see everything fast enough. If we gonna continue with Sanchez we need to run the ball more often, but I will also suggest totry McElroy as the quaterback cause he has much better vision than Sanchez. Sanchez strength is the deep ball from play action. We need better pass rush from our front 4 and we probably need to get a good corner too.

  121. By Ronald on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    We need to blitz just like the Raven has been doing and punish opposite quaterback. WE need to protect the quarterback better, too. Our winning formula is a strong defense, good special team, running the football about 50 to 60 percent of the time and a decent offenseo won’t turn the ball over..

  122. By Franky on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    I just want the JETS to trade 1st round 16th pick, to 4th – 6th with a trade and letting go of Burress, Shawn Green(to slow for a speed back and too weak for a power back) or the Holmes character.
    Draft Trent Richardson*, Alabama, RB (5-11, 224) BEST BACK AVAILABLE, WATCH HIS HIGHLIGHTS, HE’S A BEAST And with Mcknight as a back up. DYNAMIC
    Marc Sanches gets one more year thats it, When they run the damn ball that takes pressure off the o-line and Sanchez. No running game this year, and with these lazy recievers, Marc doesn’t have receivers that get out of their routes fast enough or put in the time with film. RUN THE DAMN BALL GET THE DEFENCE VENERABLE. We need to draft Trent Richardson, look what A. Peterson, MJD, McFadden have done.

  123. By Aussie NYJ on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    Draw does look good. Need to play to our strengths again and use the ground and pound a bit more. MS is still developing his craft so we need to be smarter in the plays we run at selective times in the game. Maybe time for some changes in our offensive coaching?

  124. By Tom Spicer on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    Joe, Since you have problems reading I said Braylon Edwards BY HIMSELF had 6 plays over 40 yards last year. Go to you tube type in Braylon Edwards highlights 2010. It is a 3 minute clip you will see BOMBS not 5 yard passes that he ran after the catch but the ball traveling 40 yards in the air. 1 Texans 2 Bills 3 Broncos 4 Colts 5 Lions 6 Pats. Plus Big Ben who throws 10 passes per game over 40 yards according to you. Averaged 7.9 yards per attempt this year Mark averaged 6.4 yards per attempt this year. THAT IS A WHOPPING 1.5 YARDS MORE PER ATTEMPT. That sounds to me like Pitt has a short passing game & they take there shots deep when the chance presents itself. But hey you know better than me.

  125. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer, you’re half right to joe but only half. Edwards and Holmes had lots of short passes last yr that they took to the house or almost, Sanchez has yet to wow anyone with consistently successful long passes in the air. And HOW have you watched football for so many yrs without understanding the avg p/att stat? 1.5 yds is HUGE in that stat, in the Sanchez/Ben instance it represents a 22.5% increase for Ben over MS and 7.5-8 is where the better QBs START, NOT finish. Besides, joe’s right not only about MS in the bottom 3rd of traditional QB ratings, he’s DEAD LAST in the new QB rating! Admit it, you’re afraid to see Campbell or Orton or McElroy under center next summer, playing competently if maybe unspectacularly and proving MS is a bust.

  126. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    By the way, Neal and Viveca, your posts today should be nailed to the wall of the front door at Florham Park like Martin Luther’s at the doors of the church. I can’t wait until this Emperor’s New Clothes era of Rex/Schotty/Sanchez ends, though I’m hardly about to hold my breath on that one…

  127. By jetsfan on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    Greg Mcleroy is our answere to bad he will never get the chance .After all Tom Brady was a 7th round draft pick if it weren’t for him Bill would not be there right know.We need someone who will get better but Sanchez 3yrs he gets worse.I don’t know if it’s shotty’s fault or sanchez but someone is makeing realy bad decisions.I go to a lot of games and I see Plex and Santonio Homes open way down the field but were to busy with the dink and dunk to relize it.Its been 7 years of dink and dunk so is it Sanchez or is it Shotty and Sanchez has only been there 3 yrs.In hard knox we were looseing to the Redskins rex told Sanchez to call the plays in the 2nd half we won big after that so who is the problem? allways end up with the same answere shotty

  128. By jetsfan on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    thunderlips you are the best keep it comming ty

  129. By MikeM on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    Let go of Shotty, bring in Peyton, make Tom Moore OC, draft a running back to compliment Shonn Greene, get Braylon and Cotchery back, and improve the D through the draft and free agency. We need to move on from Sanchize, Holmes, Burress, and LT (love LT but need a bruiser for ground and pound). Here’s a thought. Shotty gets the Jags job, takes Sanchize with him and gives the Jets the Jags #1 pick. We trade up and take Trent Richardson from Alabama!! Peyton Manning with Trent Richardson in the backfield is certainly a deadly duo for the rest of the NFL!

  130. By freddy on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    Huge fan and usually quiet, do a lot of research, good thing about being a new york fan in any sport is you can vent out in a honest way, brutally or sympathetically its quite an honor. My opinion is we all are so impatient with wanting a super bowl, or even an elite team we tend to overlook the details of what has happened……IS MS an elite QB-no, can he-maybe….at least a top 10, when ANY QB like Favre would throw a ball in triple coverage and the receiver makes a spectacular play_”what a throw!” holy crap!…but same throw and an interception_”what was he thinking” “he’s terrible” MS made some tight throws, some great ones and some bad ones….he was thrown to the wolves right away, from day one, developed bad habits, (continued>)

  131. By freddy on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    more playing time (kerly) can and has shown greatness….not elite but can be….reminds me of crebet in the slot—-needs to make those off target catches tho like J Co did. NEED 4 man pass rush….then when you throw the house at them its a giveme sack, need to get of line help big time, fergison had some issues but over all he was good center-probowl, moore ok….thats all we have, TE- can be great, but w. shotty writing the plays, dont play to his talent, unless we need that touchdown!(what about from the 20 to midfield), need a saftey that can hit and cover (loved ronnie lott in the day) the draft is hit or miss the first two rounds), get heart, like someone said…woodhead,welker,crebet all late rounds or walk ons (continued)

  132. By freddy on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    Rex needs to man up, dont care if he talks as long as hes winning- jets need to really stop the friendship loyalty thing and look at the stats….Cant keep shotty, remember hard knocks when marty was talking to MS in the meeting room going over plays and MS was fumbling his bag and getting chips and not even listening….MS for a guy who got hit so much never sat out, got up and went on with it. he gets a high mark for endurance, but he absolutely needs a OC to make him a man and stop being a boy and show accountability for his mistakes…not afraid to bench him, and become a true leader….if the QB dosnt get respect, the team will become unglued—–sorry for the long post-venting

  133. By freddy on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    one post didnt go through, I also heard MS has a bad work ethic from inside the organization, he needs a kick in the butt…only a good coach can do this, my wish list….2 DE’s that can rush, an upgrade at RB, a saftey that can cover AND hit/tackle, and a ofc lineman that can protect And open holes….crom can cover (if he dont get flagged) and would be better w/ a pass rush that can actually get to the QB, heck, if i had 5 to 7 seconds to throw the ball i can find a receiver too. SO i give MS a pass this season, hes been hit more times than a poker player playing black-jack. Remember tom brady 1st season under rex (when we one) he was hit often, and looked like MS this year….he needs protection, and we need to hit the QB

  134. By joe on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer only you could TRY (NOTICE I SAID TRY )to dare justify a comparasion between one of the worst qb in the league (SANCHEZ )with a BRO BOWLER and MULTIPLE SUPERBOWL WINNER Rothesburger.Spicer as one of the 4 or so members of the SANCHEZ FAN CLUB i think its your duty NEXT Sept to go up to the stadium .Accordingly when SANCHEZ is announced to the crowd AND 80K PEOPLE BOO in unison YOU SHOW STAND UP WITH ONE OF YOUR TOTALLY USELESS STATS AND TELL THEM THEY ARE WRONG

  135. By joe on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    Jet Fan Since 64 TOM THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION .Only Spicer could brink up a stat to TRY to prove his point AND HAVE IT TOTALLY BACKFIRE because he doesnt know how to interpt the state hes bring up in the first place.Lol(HE WINDS UP BETTER AT MAKING MY POINT THAN I DO )

  136. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    Yeah, joe, I don’t know where Spicer was coming from on the average per attempt thing, it’s not like the stat doesn’t have a history, including Joe’s 8.1., if I remember correctly, in what was his then-unheard of 4,007 yd passing yr. Some good pts, freddy, but I’m sorry, 43 yrs of mostly disappointment, often ineptitude does NOT = “impatience.” The kind of aggressive housecleaning that the Jets need has still rarely been done in that time. We’ve never really, for instance, hired a head coach and given him any front office clout. Instead we’ve gone for marginally qualified guys or entertainers, both of which Rex is. What’s he’s not is a skilled, savvy evaluator and developer of talent.

  137. By Tom Spicer on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    Joe,
    Brady 1st Super Bowl 2,843 yards, 18 TDS & 15 turnovers. Brady 2nd Super Bowl 3,620 yards 24 TDS & 17 turnovers. Brady 3rd Super Bowl 3,692 yards 28 TDS & 19 turnovers. YEA HE WAS ELITE AT THAT POINT LOL.
    Eli his Super Bowl year 56% 3,336 yards 24 TDS & 27 TURNOVERS! ELITE YEA OK!
    Ben 1st Super Bowl 2,385 yards 20 TDS & 10 turnovers
    Ben 2nd Super Bowl 3,301 yards 19 TDS & 22 TURNOVERS!
    GAME MANAGER!
    Answer how these QBS were elite WITHOUT saying I am bringing up a useless stat or bringing up some QBS that played before I was born.
    YOU CANT! YOU BRING NOTHING TO THE TABLE!

  138. By Biggie Brown on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    Please, some of you fans disgust me. Lets let the management do what they have to do to get things right. To be honest, this was a good thing for the organization because now evrybody is back down to earth. Since they have a full off- season this year, we will definatley be well prepared for next season. You guys have to remember the lock out messed alot of teams up this year. I still believe they have what it takes, now they just have to believe in themselves. Oh yeah bye bye scotty. hope we get someone who can discipline the offensive line. How did ferguson make the pro bowl?

  139. By Vinnie on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    Dear Mike T and Jets Orginization…What is your draft philosophy because Mike when you first arrived you said you would build the team through the draft. You’ve gotten away from that and trying to create quick fixes. How can you have a draft a few years ago and only acquire 3 players. I honestly can’t fathom how that happens!!! It’s amazing how the Patriots consistently draft and ACQUIRE more picks every year and yet you’re consistently throwing picks away by trading up. Yes you’ve grabbed a few good plaers when Mangini was here but the last few drafts have been horrible. I think the whole scouting dept needs to be revamped because they are obviously dropping the ball. Get it done Mike!!!

  140. By BIG ROB on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    We’re a “top defensive” team with no stud safety.. smith is ok but not it. Need to go back to drafting OLine and DLine, get a good pass rush, and a legit safety.. fill in your roster with good RB’s and WR’s in free agency, no need to go get anyone in the draft, god knows were not gonna use them with Schotty back. And get rid of Holmes thats disgusting if he stays on the team. LT should be back. He’s old (not too old) and somehow finds the heart to run hard and play hard every week. Maybe if our other backs (or we find different ones) cared like he did this team wouldnt have failed.

  141. By London Jet on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    We need WRs that will get separation and open up the field for easier passes to TEs and slot receivers. That makes Sanchez’s job much easier. A speed guy is needed and some sure hands.

  142. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    Biggie, if the FO did things right, there’d be almost no posts on this site. As Vinnie pts out, how can a team ever go into a draft with only 3 PICKS? In this day and age, when a deep bench and a variety of situational players are more important than ever? One thing I see coming up time and time again in criticisms of the Jets by ex-players and sportswriters — and it’s a criticism that many of us on this site have been making for yrs — is that the Jets can’t seem to resist big FA signings that leave them without enough money or draft picks to build a complete team. Even now people, for some weird reason, want LT back when getting him wasn’t the greatest move to begin with. When the FO and HC start doing things more right, I’ll say less.

  143. By Dylan on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    Jets need to get rid of Rex Ryan and mark Sanchez’s

  144. By scjoe on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    Biggie Brown, how did the short off season and the lockout effect NE, NO, GB, Pit, and Balt.all who returned to the playyoffs? How did it effect Cinn, with a NEW OC,a NEW rookie QB and a NEW rookie WR? Where is that “chemistry” in Cinn (with a rookie QB throwing to a rookie WR) that so many Jet fans seem to think we are lacking here in NY because we brought in a new “veteran” WR? The reasons for a Jet collapse in 2011 are many, among them the play of the QB, the running game, the play of the O line, the lack of a pass rush, the safety play, and to a lesser degree the K and Punter positions. Many which could have been addressed by the FO a little better. Especially a QB who could push MS.

  145. By Tom Spicer on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    SCJoe, Amen a many who can see the forest thru the trees & can see there are many holes not just the play of the QB

  146. By joe on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer HELLO your citing STATS and in doing so CLAIMING they are not ELITE. The stats mean nothing .Ken Andersons STATS are better than Terry Bradshaws IN ACCORDINANCE WITH YOUR POSTS AND THINKING ANDERSON WOULD BE ELITE AND BRADSHAW WOULD NOT .NO PERSON IN HIS RIGHT MIND would ever say Anderson was the better qb EVEN THOUGH HIS STATS SAY SO.iTS THE SAME THING HERE Another example SPICER Namaths stats are AVG at BEST you want to tell us how HES IN THE HOF Because Sanchezs stats are simular to Rothesburger and MANNING FOR CERTAIN YEARS MEANS NOTHING

  147. By joe on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer your actually on here COMPARING multiple mvp and super bowl winners (GUYS THAT ARE SURE FIRE FIRST BALLET HOF ERS )WITH ONE OF THE WORST QBS IN THE LEAGUE

  148. By Jimmer on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer, most of us know Eli and Brady were not that good when they won titles. Let it go. These people are fair weather fans we should not care about anyway. I’m not even sold on them being Jets fans.

  149. By Jimmer on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    ’64 Tom, come on, Holmes got his payday and didn’t care about anything else. Rex is not very smart when it come to signing players. SH got his money, then just wanted to be a highlight reel. The guy is like plague.
    If Sanchez had an OL like some other teams had, do you haters really think he’d be 30th? If he had more than 3.1 seconds, he’d be better. But the NFL average is actually over 4 seconds.
    The kid is running for his life. Look at the front office, not at Mark.

  150. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    I’ll agree with you, Spicer, that Sanchez is hardly the only problem. Heck, a lot of us were wailing in the off-season about the failure to draft a OLB-pass rusher and at least one S, and did we ever pay the price for that! But I gotta give scjoe the award for my favorite post-season insight so far about Dalton and Green. Like I said to you the other day, Spice, Dalton’s play just on that level pretty much shows he’s not likely to be a bust, so I don’t wanna hear excessive excuses about how mixing up the receivers doomed MS. You’ll recall that he took to Keller very quickly in his 1st yr and was starting to do the same with Kerley in the 2nd half of this yr. This was supposed to be MS’s big growth yr and he shoulda adjusted better.

  151. By cgb on Jan 7, 2012 | Reply

    jimmer your right about the front office letting the team down this yr. Especially since it was a season with no mini camps and no real training camp. Our front office or (tanny) picked a bad time to let the o-line get older and worse, and give sanchez new toys without reading the warning label.This coming year will not be so bad if we solve the o-line problem, become faster on defense,bigger faster RB,more safety help and a real d-line pass rusher.A deep threat for mark to get the ball to.

  152. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jan 7, 2012 | Reply

    Yes, Jimmer, I think with the best protection Sanchez would still be in the bottom 3rd, so many of his fundamentals are awful at this pt. As Cimini pts out, he had at least 5 sacks due to his inability to know when to let go of the ball. He’s a liability with the ball when hit and contrary to what Spicer thinks, QBs are judged by how well they hold onto it. I’ve been watching football since about 1963 and I’ve seen teams that were completely unable to protect the QB all yr, but I’ve NEVER seen a QB throw 2 picks to a DL much less the same DL! Our OL needs to get better but I’m not sure MS can get much better, most everybody around the NFL is sure he can’t. Jet fans have to stop dreaming and evaluate talent more honestly, as does our HC.

  153. By Tom Spicer on Jan 7, 2012 | Reply

    Jimmer, I am right so Joe should let it go Brady, Ben & Eli were all on run first & D first teams when they won there titles THIS IS A FACT! Joe can try to rewrite history all he wants.

  154. By Tom Spicer on Jan 7, 2012 | Reply

    Joe, What I am comparing is how the best QBS in the NFL did in there 3rd year vs what Mark did this year. The point being his numbers are in line with all of them.

  155. By Stephen Dale on Jan 7, 2012 | Reply

    Let’s draft some players. The main reason for 8 and 8 is Smith and Leonard at safety and Hunter at tackle. Our recent draft choices who are starters are Keller, Green, Slausen, Sanchez, Harris, Wilkerson and Revis. Something wrong with this picture? We might be 6 and 8 next year.

  156. By cgb on Jan 7, 2012 | Reply

    tom 64, your right about mark not really needing lots of time to get into sync with receivers this can be done in 1 off season . now we just need a solid off season, decide on shotty early, (no wich direction the offense is heading) no more foolish big name signings, a solid draft, and most important rex needs to introduce himself as the new headcoach of the jets. Then act that way…

  157. By joe on Jan 7, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer your using stats tp predicate the comparison (best qb in football 3 years in) .INTURN i replyied that STATS SAY ANDERSON WAS A BETTER QB THAN BRADSHAW.The entire point is YOU CANT USE STATS TO COMPARE QBs.Sanchez is one of the WORST QB IN FOOTBALL SPICER and your actually on here TRYING to compare him with NFL MVP WINNERS

  158. By Joe on Jan 7, 2012 | Reply

    i hope jim leonhard is resigned i no its a tough call right now and everyone thinks 2 major injuries on the same leg in a year makes him injury prone which is very true but i think hes awesome he just goes out and plays football we need him back i just hope he stays healthy

  159. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jan 7, 2012 | Reply

    You think Rex burying the ball, only this time burying himself, is gonna work, cgb? Not only won’t it work, it’s not even possible — Rex is the guy who’s always talking about how he’s not gonna change, remember? No, I don’t think Rex is the guy to lead this team either emotionally or as a HC. We still need what we’ve never had, a quietly strong, insightful HC who’s got some clout in the FO and can bring in the kind of players he wants. I don’t even want some of the kind of players Rex wants, since they’re not modern football players. He and Mr T will merely “manage the decay” until Woody sees the light. As for MS, there’s no pt beating a dead horse, I doubt he’s going to step up next yr. I could be wrong but it’s looking like I’m right.

  160. By Rich in New Mexico on Jan 7, 2012 | Reply

    What I think we need to do is:
    1) Spend 3 of our first 4 picks on offensive linemen. Which 3 depends on who is
    available when we pick.
    2) Draft a pass rusher with any of our first 4 picks, what position in the draft
    depends on who is available at the time of the pick.
    3) Replace our OC with someone a little more aggressive and a little less
    predictable.
    Until we address our O-Line in a major way we have no hope. No one, be it QB or RB and to an extent WR will have a good year when the QB has no time to throw and the RB’s have no holes to run through. It is that simple.
    To take the load off of the defense we need a consistant pass rush, such as what you get when you play a 4-3 defense. Out of space here

  161. By to much on Jan 8, 2012 | Reply

    guess who? 51 interceptions 29 fumles and 6.4 yds counting yac .

  162. By NEBRASKA JET on Jan 9, 2012 | Reply

    LAVONTE DAVID NEBRASKA CORNHUSKERS FIRST ROUND HE IS AN ANIMAL. TAKE HIM TAKE HIM TAKE HIM.

  163. By JetsFan42 on Jan 10, 2012 | Reply

    Draft Courtney Upshaw, and then if Mark Barron is still available in the second round draft him too, or trade up your second round pick to get him

  164. By Jimmer on Jan 10, 2012 | Reply

    Rich, you really are onto something. After the Philly game, the OL heard the D calling out what was coming on almost every play. We need someone calling plays/formations that truly confuse a defense.

  165. By Jack on Jan 10, 2012 | Reply

    Seen a new Mock drafts Jets taking RB, Trent Richardson. I would like the pick if the Jets go and find a RT, from F/A. Bill Callahan has left to be the new Offenisve line coach for the Cowboys and WR Coach Henry Ellard had left the Jets as well. I 3 names for the new OC, for the Jets Hugh Jackson, Oregons The Duck HC, Chip Kelly and Chick Harris offensive line coach for houston.

  166. By haroldbolz on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    please focus on safety and o line!! boise state- and texas christian have the best safties for draft !!! no doubt! temple have awesome safties for draft as well as a quadray of well sized and talented o line! boise state has a 4 year guy leaving on o line who is extremely awesome! then there is the the boys in lousiana tech a hard charged crew of seniors with very good upset record and playmaking defense as well as good stock of recievers that may be overlooked. utah has solid crew of seniors on both sidesof the line as well as dbs.

  167. By haroldbolz on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    draft George Iloka smith is solid but does not have game breaking speed like this guy!

  168. By JonDivine on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    I will say that the disappointment of this season was held on two key factors:
    Offensive play calling and the inconsistent Offensive line blocking.

    People want to immediately point fingers at Sanchez, but when he is being sacked nearly 50x this season, you have to take into consideration that he is antsy in the pocket. On top of that, the running game was obizmal compared to the previous two seasons; not exactly on Shonne Greene’s end, but that is drawn back to the offensive play calling.

    Now that schotty is out, i hope that the offense will draft a RT in the first round, a WR in the second pick, and a few progressive CBs since i see us losing Donald Strickland and probably Brodney Pool.

    Oh and 1 more thing, BRING BACK BRAYLON!!!

  169. By LARRY on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Hunter needs to go.

  170. By joe on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    NEBRASKA JET you may be interested in finding out my business part and his brother were either hon mention all american or all americans on the undefeated NAT CHAMPIONSHIP TEAMS OF THE MID 90S (PETER BROS )I have ties to Penn State football (same time period many guys i lived with on the jersey shore played there .We all grew up within together 10 years of another so of one another sometimes we go at it esp now that one of our old buddys hit it big and became head coach at the u

  171. By David on Jan 12, 2012 | Reply

    I dont understand bringing back Braylon. We need some new blood. Tell me how you would feel about Peyton Manning throwing the ball to: Stevie Johnson Desean Jackson Plaxico Burress Dustin Keller.

    That’s a nice receiving core.

    Regardless Sanchez must go!!!!!!!!! I would rather Brunell taking us to an 8-8 record

  172. By Harry on Jan 12, 2012 | Reply

    Muhammad Wilkerson 96 needs the step up and do more sacking.

    Harry
    Go Jets

  173. By joe on Jan 13, 2012 | Reply

    Harry compared TO MOST OF OUR DRAFT CHOICES THE PAST 4 YEARS Wilkerson is the second coming of MEAN JOE GREENE .lol thats how pityful WE HAVE BEEN DRAFTING

  174. By Daniel Krauss on Jan 16, 2012 | Reply

    In Eli’s 3rd yr he regressed and everyone wanted him gone. The following yr he won a SB so give Sanchez 1 more yr. Jets should trade back to the 24-26th pick and get the teams 2nd rd pick. There’s a lot of studs in the draft and they can get depth at the same time. Take Whitney Mercilius, Mark Barron, Michael Floyd, Upshaw or whoever is open (I know not all will be open I’m just naming a few). Sign Carl Nicks and Demetrius Bell. If they sign those 2 the O-line is set. Possibly sign Braylon to a 1 yr minimum contract deal.

  175. By Jack on Jan 17, 2012 | Reply

    Daniel, I do agree that the Jets should get a RT, and other OT, from free agents But there no way that the Jets should trade down they have a 2nd Rd 47TH pick. There no way that S, Mark Barron or WR, Michael Floyd or Upshaw will be still on the board at the 24th or the 26th picks. I’m hoping that the Jets end up getting S, Mark Barron at the 16th pick. If he gone I wouldn’t mind getting WR, Mike Floyd with the 16th pick. Other players I like if Barron and Floyd are gone oh by the way Trent Richardson should be gone as well. DE, Nick Perry Southern Cal, OG, Cordy Glenn. WR,Alshon Jeffery, ILB,Donta Hightower. 2nd RD, RT, Andrew Datko FSU,

  176. By Benjamin on Jan 17, 2012 | Reply

    Jets for life! I seriously think we need to draft a new QB this upcoming year. Sanchez is a good QB, but not a great one. He crumbles under pressure quite a bit, and is known for overthrowing it. I say draft a QB early and get him in some practice and maybe put him in one or two games in the upcoming season.

    Jets for life!

  177. By kevin on Jan 18, 2012 | Reply

    jets should really look into mark barron, safety out of alabama, he’s built strong and can hit, plays box safety so jets can stop worrying about the TE’s, second round a replacement for hunter, third round an olb or ilb, i’d trade maybin scott or smith for a higher draft pick, second or third in order to get that wr everyone’s talking about

  178. By john on Jan 18, 2012 | Reply

    first of all for all of you that dont know how kerley threw the ball so well it was because he was a QB in HIGHSKOOL andanyways i would like to see the jets resign braylon edwards and some sort of playmaker WR to the team like desean jackson. we also need an RT, FS, MLB and a few more positions like an average good punter.

  179. By j-e-t-s jets jets jets on Jan 20, 2012 | Reply

    ok ok listen we got a few good young wide receivers we need offensive line backers someone to give mark time to throw good passes if hes going to stay with the team and be successful. got to build the team around mark and with sparano i hope to see more wildcat with kerley as QB maybe mcelroy in a receiver slot give sanchez a break especially if he is struggling… need a 4-3 defense more big quick lb’s like the giants have who can pressure a QB id like to see plax stay. Djax is just as bad as holmes

  180. By Jack on Jan 23, 2012 | Reply

    Rd 1 Safety Mark Barron, or WR, Michael Floyd. Rd 2 ILB, Donte Hightower, or RT, Andrew Datko FSU, Rd 3 WR, Nick Toon Rd 4 FS, Tramain Thomas or S, Kenny Tate.

  181. By johnnyriz on Jan 24, 2012 | Reply

    robert mathis peyton hillis move cro to safety

  182. By Gustoon on Jan 25, 2012 | Reply

    PLEASE PLEASE do not play the Rams in London….or any game PLEASE!!

  183. By Mike Coppola on Feb 6, 2012 | Reply

    It doesn’t matter who they draft.
    After being a die hard fan for 50 years, I’ve had it! I’ve got to watch the Giants win another Super Bowl. Our coach talks too much. Our GM has lost his way. Out ownwer doesn’t get it. Santonio Holmes will be on this team again next year. Do you think Vince Lombardi would have him on the team next year?
    We will never win until we, once again, start all over. A new ownwer (or have this one stop judging talent), a new GM (for one who knows talent), and a coach who can do more than coordinate a top defence. I’m done!

  184. By Mike Coppola on Feb 6, 2012 | Reply

    And one Super Bowl won’t do it anymore. You have to win two, maybe three, over the next few years to be validated as a legitimate top franchise and not just a fluke!

  185. By Mike Coppola on Feb 7, 2012 | Reply

    And today a parade for the Giants. If only we didn’t have an egotistical organization that only cares about individual goals. Players and coaches alike. When will you realize that the fans come first. Please, no more calls looking for fan support. We have all been here and rooting for our team much longer than the owner, GM & coaches have.

  186. By upset jets fan on Feb 7, 2012 | Reply

    Well its done the Jets are the step child of the Giants ..Again the Jets take a backseat to them .I’d like to thank Woody Rex Mike for making us Jets fans second class citizens to the Giants fans .Maybe one of these days you will care about the fans instead of yourselves ..One day Jets might win hope I am alive to see it

  187. By derrick on Feb 9, 2012 | Reply

    Hey i want to know how many Draft pics don we have for the 2012 season

  188. By ganggreen D on Feb 21, 2012 | Reply

    MIKE TANNENBAUM listen to me #38 on the 49ers will be a free agent this year if he is on the market pick him up. #38 and jim Leonhard will dominate. If #38 is not on the market pick up the safety from notre dame harrison smith look at him he has had 7 int 307 tackles 4 sacks and 28 pass break ups in 51 college games. also look at mark barron from alabama he had 12 ints 4 sacks 22 pass breakups and 235 tackles in 52 college games.This year he had 2 ints 68 tackles and 5 pass breakups, he is predicted to go around the 20th or 17th pick of the first round. Also look at a tackle especially a right tackle because wayne hunter is only good on goaline situations.for a tackle look at matt kalil out of USC he is long he moves great his movement

  189. By ganggreen D on Feb 21, 2012 | Reply

    continuing on vertically and laterally are incredible also look at mike adams from ohio st. he is just all around athletic had a good senior bowl and is fast for a lineman also look at amini sitoulo he came in seconf place for the gene upshaw award in division 2 he is 6’3″ 324 he moves well laterallyhe can pull out he can also run and he is also very very aggresive he is predicted to go in the 2nd round so you can either go with a d lineman with the 16th pick a safety witch i would do or OT for the first pick.

  190. By Richard Buck on Feb 26, 2012 | Reply

    The Jets rocked 4 most of the season then sanchez couldnt get the job done i rlly hope the Jets do better im srry to say it but im a giants and a jet fan i rlly like the jets but if sanchez cant get the job done then i wont be a jets fan and i will be 100% giants fan

  191. By Saby on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    @ Richard Buck comment U cant be JETS/GIANTS fan! your either one or the other. Sanchez took a beating this year and the worst was when mangold was not playing. Giants didn’t do anything until Cromartie tried to should tackle samba maniac Cruz. That woudl have stopped that play and things wouldn’t be the way they ended up (MARK) my words.

  192. By Richard Buck on Mar 1, 2012 | Reply

    @saby im more of jets fan then giants fan but all im saying is if the Jets dont do good this year then i will become a giants fan

  193. By Iron man Rickmers on Mar 4, 2012 | Reply

    If the jets can aquire a RT in free agency, I think there priorities should be:
    1:Mark Barron
    2:Devon Still
    3:Nick Perry
    in that order. All is lost if they cant fix the OLine. Jets should have best OLine in NFL. nothing less.

  194. By J-LEV on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Watch Harrison Smith on Notre Dame number twenty two.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0t11dVsS7g watch second 38 in the video if this link does not work, go on youtube and type in Harrison Smith vs Stanford.

  195. By J-LEV on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Look at this hit by Mark Barron the FS on Alabama’s #1 defense. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUPrI8sI63A also look at this video of Mark Barron http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUpCHIkvckc.

  196. By J-LEV on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    In the free agent mark this year there are four players I think the the NY Jets could sign. The First person I thought was Reggie Wayne. Reggie Wayne has some of the best hands in the whole NFL, the reason why I looked at Reggie Wayne was the jets might let go or trade Plaxico Burress to the Eagles, well Plaxico is interested in the Eagles. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebX8C9vxoQ4 this link has highlgihts of Reggie Wayne. The next person I was think of is Laron Landry from the Washington Redskins. Laron Landry for his whole career has been cursed with injuries, so everyone thought that he was just a normal NFL safety that makes a good play every ounce in a while. Laron Landry loves to hit and can intercept a couple pass as well he is.

  197. By J-LEV on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    wearing green and white next season, here is a link to a highlight video of Laron Landry. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ChyMi8NUd4&feature=related . the next person on my list was Brandon Jacobs of the former Super Bowl champs the NY Giants. Shonne Greene is a great running back but he isn’t a every down back. The jets need someone explosive and who knows how to ground and pound the football. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqoQ3rwHZuU here is a Brandon Jacobs ESPN Sports Science Video. The next person who is on my list is former NY Jets DE, Jonathan Abraham. I think if Abraham leaves the dirty birds of Atlanta he will try and make a reunion of him and the NY jets. Johnathon BArahmam was one of those stupid releases that the Jets made

  198. By J-LEV on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    like Jonathan Vilma and James Farrior, witch I don’t understand but we have David Harris and his is amazing. Abraham still has some juice in the tank for one more superbowl run with the NY Jets. I also think he can improve the Jets pass rush. Also he can be Veteran Leader on the Defense and a mentor to Muhammad Wilkerson as he develops into a NFL pass rusher. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5CwiYlUI7U here is a highlight video of John Abraham on the falcons. I hope to see most of this players wearing green and white next year.

  199. By J-LEV on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t understand you Mike Tannenbaum we need a OL, WR, RB, LB, S, and yet have not yet to sign anybody its ridicluios!! Start signing some people please the Wayne Hunter is the worst RT in the whole NFL, he just can’t be a staring RT, My Pop Warner coach is a better tackle then him!! Also sign a RB. I like Shonne Greene but he not a franchise RB for the NY Jets. Sign Brandon Jacobs or even Micheal Bush would be a good fit. Also get a good WR in the market Mario Mannigham or Steve Smith (the one who was on the giants). I mean its to late to sign Reggie Wayne. I mean you guys let the Buffalo Bills get Mario Williams, Mario Williams one of the best defesive linemen in the NFL. Please just sign people Please, Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  200. By J-LEV on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    I have a question where and how is Chaz Schilens and Drew Stanton going to help the jets offense.(no offense) Also how could you let Mario Willams just walk up to buffalo NY and be on the Buffalo Bills who I think are becoming a better and well rounded team. I jonestly think the Buffalo Bills can sweep our beloved NY Jets. Also the Miami Dolphins are getting better and so are the Patriots so if you want to keep up in this divison, you half to make the right draft the right players. I am not saying that Kyle Wilson and Muhhamad Wilkerson are bad players they just aren’t as productive as like a Jason Pierre-Paul or a Vonte Davis. We are not the same NY Jets we were three years ago.

  201. By J-LEV on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Know you let Mario Manningham go to San Fransico! Just great I mean Mike Tannebaum just sign Reggie Nelson already what are you doing sign somebody, I am giving like hours of reasearch about players and yet you don’t sign anybody. I really am getting mad, I would Problably be a better GM for the NY Jets because I know what the Jets need. They need a explosive ffesive player, a RT, someone to replace Eric Smith because he is just terrible, a linbacker to replace Bart Scott, and a elite WR. What don’t you understand.

  202. By J-LEV on Mar 21, 2012 | Reply

    Okay you got Laron Landry and Tim Tebow, now you half to get Benjarvus Green-Ellis or Micheal Bush or even Brandon Jacobs I am happy about LAron Landry but I’m not so sure about Tebow? I really think if we get enough talent in the draft we can havea huge super bowl run in 2012.

  203. By JACK on Apr 4, 2012 | Reply

    I Still would love to see the Jets take S, Mark Barron with the 16 th pick or they should trade down and still should be able to get Barron. My other picks for the 1st rd’s, are RB, Trent Richardson OLB, Melvin Ingram. WR, Michael Floyd, ILB, Donta Hightower.

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