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Emptying Out the Stat Books for the ’11 Season

Posted by Randy Lange on January 10, 2012 – 3:00 pm

As we wait for some veterans and some new players and other assorted newsmakers to wend their way through the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center, I’ve worked up a few statistical nuggets as I continue to update and close the books on the different spreadsheets and databases that I maintained on the 2011 Jets.

These notes are in no particular order and far from exhaustive. We’ll break out plenty more of our exclusive information as we head into the offseason, begin to prepare our 2012 Yearbook, and get ready for free agency, the draft, OTAs, minicamps, training camp and the ’12 season (so far off now, but just wait).

Flag Day

There are opinions aplenty about QB Mark Sanchez and the development he made or didn’t make in Season 3 of his Jets/NFL career. But one thing is pretty clear-cut: He made major progress in causing the other guys to commit penalties.

Sanchez was the cause of 23 flags being thrown against opponents, with 178 yards being marked off against the bad guys. If that sounds like a lot, well, it’s the most I’ve ever charted for an individual Jet. Since 2000, the largest penalty-drawn figures had been chalked up by Chad Pennington in 2006 (19-122) and DE John Abraham in ’05 (18-135).

Sanchez’s penchant for causing penalties splits into two categories. One is the personal-foul/late hit/unnecessary-roughness/roughing/helmet-to-helmet variety. No. 6 was fouled by defenders seven times this season, with five of the majors getting marked off in the final six games.

I don’t know where that ranks among the rest of the NFL’s signalcallers, but it’s quite an alarming number considering the premium that the league has placed on protecting QBs.

The other area is the offsides/encroachment/neutral-zone-infraction category, where the QB’s guile (in the form of the hard count) comes into play. And Sanchez made a big leap here. From my own research only, not from the coaches’ breakdowns, 16 opponents infractions were flagged when Sanchez was calling his signals.

Pennington, at his peak in ’06, drew opponents offsides 24 times (17 flags accepted) in 17 games, including the playoffs. Sanchez, on the other hand, drew defenders into presnap penalties just three times combined in the 38 games in 2009-10. So a big “hut-HUT-hut” to you, Mark, in this small but valuable arrow in the quarterback’s quiver.

Here are some other penalty trivia for the Jets in ’11

Most Penalties Called on Jets

1. T Wayne Hunter (11 penalties, 80 yards)

2. TE Matt Mulligan (9 penalties, 63 yards)

3. CB Antonio Cromartie (7 penalties, 6 accepted, 56 yards)

4. G Brandon Moore (6 penalties, 35 yards)

4. (tie) ST Nick Bellore (6 penalties, 5 accepted, 54 yards)

Most Penalties Forced by Jets on Opponents

1. QB Mark Sanchez (23 penalties, 178 yards)

2. WR Santonio Holmes (10 penalties, 120 yards)

3. WR Plaxico Burress (9 penalties, 8 accepted, 87 yards)

4. TE Dustin Keller (5 penalties, 4 accepted, 67 yards)

One final flag list, of all the Jets who played in all 16 games and had no penalties called against them:

Offense — RB Shonn Greene, QB/H Mark Brunell

Defense — LB David Harris, LB Bart Scott, DT Sione Pouha

Specialists — K Nick Folk, LS Tanner Purdum

A special note on DE Muhammad Wilkerson, who was called for two penalties but, with one offset and the other declined, had no penalties marked off against him in a pretty sharp rookie season.

Keller Keeps On Rising

Dustin Keller this year became the first Jets tight end to lead the team in receptions for two consecutive seasons since Mickey Shuler turned the trick in 1984-85. Keller’s 65 catches were the most by a Jets TE since Shuler’s 70 in ’88, his 815 yards were the most since Shuler’s 879 in ’85, and his 12.5 yards per catch was the best average at the position since Johnny Mitchell’s 12.9 in ’94.

Speaking of yards, Keller has increased his yards per catch and in particular his average yards after catch every year since he’s been a Jet in the NFL:

2008 — 11.1 YPC, 3.4 YAC

2009 — 11.6 YPC, 3.7 YAC

2010 — 12.5 YPC, 4.0 YAC

2011 — 12.6 YPC, 4.6 YAC

The Right Stuff

We all know about David Harris with another 100-plus-tackles season, Aaron Maybin with his born-again team-leading six sacks, Darrelle Revis with his Jets-high 22 pass defenses, including a team-lead-sharing four picks.

But one area that doesn’t get much season-long examination is tackles for loss/no gain. These are not official stats and there is little standardization around the NFL in this category, so I’ve always kept my own TFL/NG stats from year to year.

And despite the up-and-down play of the defense in other areas, it’s interesting to note that at and behind the line, this year’s Jets were the best in the three seasons of the Rex Ryan/Mike Pettine scheme.

The defense totaled 103 tackles for loss/no gain on the year, better than the 102 in the ’09 regular season and 80 in ’10. And four players led the way in this area — Calvin Pace with 13.5 tackles, Sione Pouha and Wilkerson with 12.5 apiece, and Harris at 12.0.

If you prefer to factor out the zero-yard gains and just count the “stuffs,” the leader is still Pace at 8.5, but Wilkerson rises to second alone with his 8.0 tackles for loss.

The Defensive Stoppers

I also like to chart the plays that make the big stops for the third- and fourth-down defense, that get the D off the field. Sometimes this is just a measure of who’s on the field the most in the sub package, but it does underscore some top performances as well.

For instance, not surprisingly, Harris, the top tackler overall, also led the Jets with 10 tackles on third and fourth down. Four of those tackles came on runs/receptions for loss or no gain, which also led the Green & White.

Sacks were another story. Maybin led the Jets with six sacks overall, and five of those QB takedowns came on crunch downs. Next closest was Bart Scott’s 2.5.

PDs? No surprise, Revis broke up eight passes on third/fourth downs, with two of them going for long-return interceptions in back-to-back home games — 100 yards for that IR score against Brandon Marshall and the Dolphins in Game 6, 64 yards the next week vs. the Chargers.

Stacking Up the Punting

T.J. Conley’s first season as an NFL punter wasn’t eye-popping, but on the other hand it was fairly reminiscent of Steve Weatherford. Consider these regular-season numbers, Weatherford’s from 2010, Conley’s from this year:

Punts — Weatherford 84, Conley 92

Gross Avg. — Weatherford 42.6 (23rd out of 32), Conley 42.7 (30th out of 32)

Net Avg. — Weatherford 38.1 (15th), Conley 38.8 (18th)

Opponents’ Avg. Return — Weatherford 11.1, Conley 7.5

Inside 20-10-5 — Weatherford 42 (tying the NFL record)-19-7, Conley 32-15-4

Touchbacks — Weatherford 4, Conley 6

Long Punt — Weatherford 61, Conley 63

Punts Blocked — Weatherford 0, Conley 0

Avg. Hang Time (unofficial) — Weatherford 4.6 seconds, Conley 4.4

Neither has a booming leg. Weatherford had a surgical touch last year, Conley not quite as much but pretty close for his first year as an NFL punter. Conley’s main averages were even slightly better, but Weatherford’s league rankings were higher.

And One More Thing

Eric Allen and our multimedia department have produced their latest video, “Examining the Jets’ Free Agent Class,” which will be live on newyorkjets.com later today. And EA will put together a blog on the subject of the Jets’ list of potential unrestricted and restricted FAs for all you Radar operators that will go live tomorrow morning.


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97 Responses to “Emptying Out the Stat Books for the ’11 Season”

  1. By Tom Spicer on Jan 10, 2012 | Reply

    WOW Maybin had 6 sacks & the next closet guy was Bart Scott with 2.5. Calvin Pace WHAT A BUST OF A FREE AGENT SIGNING!

  2. By Tom Spicer on Jan 10, 2012 | Reply

    Randy, Westerman didnt have at least 3 sacks?

  3. By Randy Lange on Jan 10, 2012 | Reply

    Tom, Scott’s 2.5 sacks were on third and fourth down only. Overall, the Jets’ sack leaders were Maybin with 6, Harris (5), Scott (4.5), Pace (4.5) and Westerman (3.5).

  4. By No one cares what Blinks thinks on Jan 10, 2012 | Reply

    Still bitter:

    Giants make it seem simple. Draft defensive lineman who are not busts and watch them take over a game. With their DL who needs linebackers. Can’t believe I wrote that. Seems that not only have I become a loser but my position has too.

    Watching the Giants, I would much have my tremendous player at the point of attack than at cornerback. No slight to number #24.

    Jeesh, who picks our players.

    Eh, who cares what I write. No one sells my jersey,
    #54

  5. By Jimmer on Jan 10, 2012 | Reply

    Moore, is the only suprise. For a very hurt guy, he played better than I’ve ever seen him play. His protection was outstanding, so, as typical JETS ritual, I guess we’re gonna let him go to F/A.
    Why we let the good one go is beyond me. When we had 4#1’s on the OL, nobody said anything. Now, we have 2#1’s and a bunch of scrubs. And we say it must be the QB?
    This really is pathetic.
    Big Ben got beaten to a pulp, nobody questions his toughness. Sanchez gets beaten even worse than Big Ben, and it’s all Sanchez’s fault.
    Sanchez took more hits that any QB in the NFL. But he still played every single play. He may not act like a leader, but he sure does play like a leader.

  6. By GaryC on Jan 10, 2012 | Reply

    Let’s see Wilkerson do what pierre-paul did in his second year with Giants,16 and a half sacks,that is a draft pick and I think the giants took him at number 15.Rex always talks size but hopefully Ellis sheds about 20 pounds, he didn’t look quick even when he played,rex needs to take the weight issue seriously, not like when he made it a joke with Woody and Jenkins,that is what this kind of year will do,fun and games one year leads to what have you done lately now.

  7. By kleckofan on Jan 10, 2012 | Reply

    Thanks, Randy, great stuff. Here’s my take: 6 sacks leads the team, ’nuff said there. Most penalized, Hunter & Mulligan again, ’nuff said. Reaction to Conley was an over-reaction, at least by the numbers. Keller is very good and a good teammate, but not up to today’s elite TE’s, just watch who’s left in the playoffs.
    Revis/Wilkerson/Pouha/Harris, our best, and surprisingly the guys who keep their mouths shut.
    If the best we can say about Mark is that he caused or suffered more penalties, that’s problematic. I still say that he can’t be judged on numbers alone; pocket presence, poise, confidence, leadership, clock mngmt etc etc should have been vastly improved; wasn’t.

  8. By kleckofan on Jan 10, 2012 | Reply

    A look back at the Giant game will show that we had 20 first downs and they had 10 (or close to that), we gave that game away. That’s what bad teams do.

  9. By kleckofan on Jan 10, 2012 | Reply

    Watching all these young studs at DE makes me ill; JJ Watts, Von Miller and even Brooks Reed. Where is our scouting, player development, draft analysis? I know we’ve been picking late after the AFC champ’ games, but where were Tuck, Umeniyora etc taken? Watch the Texans play, no gadget defenses, just simple, get to the ball football. Size, strength, speed…how many of our guys could say they have the “motor” to be on the field w Clay Matthews?

  10. By joe on Jan 10, 2012 | Reply

    Is there a STAT for most balls ever intercepted by interior defencive lineman (on checkdown plays )

  11. By Gabriel on Jan 10, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer before you overeact why not read the whole story clearly before you talk without thinking again. Wilkerson had a great year for a rookie, I believe Kendrick and him will help out the D in positive and big ways ext year. I wonder what changes will happene and when? I hope we get better players and leaders for this locker room.

  12. By Karan on Jan 10, 2012 | Reply

    To do list:
    Fire Brian Schottenheimer (most important item on the list!)
    Hire Hue Jackson
    Make Hue Jackson offensive coordinator
    Release Plaxico Burress (nothing against him, its just the age)
    Re-sign Braylon Edwards
    Release Santonio Holmes
    Give DeSean Jackson a chance
    Fire Matt Cavanaugh
    Hire a better QB coach
    Fire the running backs coach
    Hire a better running back coach
    Release Wayne Hunter
    Draft an excellent offensive tackle
    Release Matt Mulligan
    Sign a good blocking tight end
    Release Vlad Ducasse
    Get better O-line depth
    Release Bart Scott
    Sign a better and younger inside linebacker
    Draft a pass rusher (Courtney Upshaw anyone?)
    Release Eric Smith
    Sign or draft a better safety (a tight end covering safety, LaRon Laundry?)
    R

  13. By Karan on Jan 10, 2012 | Reply

    List continued::
    Release Bryan Thomas (respect him but its time to move on)
    Release Calvin Pace (i hate saying this but its time to move on)
    Get better OLBs
    Re-sign Aaron Maybin
    Re-sign Sione Pouha
    Re-sign LaDainian Tomlinson
    Re-sign Patrick Turner
    Re-sign Jim Leonhard
    Re-sign Rob Turner
    Re-sign Brodney Pool
    Release Nick Folk
    Sign a better kicker (I always like Jay Feely)
    More walking the walk and less talking

    Wow that’s a lot of moves!

    Let me know what you guys think, if I’m missing anything or need to add anything and if you disagree with anything, and please don’t add “Get a new QB”, the Sanchize deserves another chance with a new offensive coordinator and a new QB coach
    Also lets give Rex another shot.

  14. By Russell on Jan 10, 2012 | Reply

    Randy, this offseason Mike Tannenbaum needs to do a better job in bringing in free agents and along with the scouting department, make better selections in the 2012 draft. Since we’re emptying out the stats book, do you realize that from the 2007-2010 drafts, only 10 players are on the current roster. The JETS traded away 12 draft picks in order to move up and select a player. The JETS have gotten nothing from OL Ducasse, little from CB Wilson. Concerning the JETS draft in 2011, DL Ellis hardly saw the field, RB Powell was a non factor and WR McKnight was released. I gave QB McElroy a pass because he was on IR. Let IRA and I handle the free agent signings and drafting the players. Bet we can do as good a job as Tannenbaum can.

  15. By scjoe on Jan 10, 2012 | Reply

    Blinka, I know no one cares what you think, BUT…. I have to disagree just a tad. I don’t think you can really go with that D-Line philosophy as much in a 3-4 as you can in the 4-3 like the Giants run. I believe it is more critical to go out and get a couple of “non bust” OLBs Someone who can actually rush the passer. That is key for Rex. I think the DEs and the NT position for the Jets is adequate, at least for what their assignments are, it is the LB core that has let us down. That said, the team needs are so many, I am just not sure where to start, OT, OLB, S, RB, WR? And of course QB, but I will not go there right now.

  16. By Biggie Brown on Jan 10, 2012 | Reply

    May not be the talent, it may be the defensive schemes thats the problem, one bad season and everybody is a bust, c’mon man give me a break. Jets in 2012!!!!!

  17. By Joe on Jan 10, 2012 | Reply

    Here is a stat got all jet fans Peyton last game played was against the jets and his next game he plays is for the jets.that would be nice

  18. By Dug on Jan 10, 2012 | Reply

    Appreciate your posts Blinka & if I ever buy another Jet jersey, it’ll
    probably be yours !

  19. By cgb on Jan 10, 2012 | Reply

    surprising to see conley’s stats stack up nicely to weatherford’s. If you would have asked me who had a better year punting conly this year or weatherford last year i would have said hands down it was weatherford last year. Clearly thats not the case, they appear to be just about equal. nice work randy.

  20. By sal on Jan 10, 2012 | Reply

    Thats stretching for a silver lining, the team lacked fire dicipline emotion, tecqnique a identity, leadership thats with how many captains? Teabow as much as I cant stand the guy, hearing the name over and over each week, proves talent will only get you so far. The “it ” factor and not only dose sancheze not have it, but now that players that did on the squad have it , they lost it. this year. I believe in team balance, and when you throw it off, nothing good is going to come out of it. Tom moore was brought here from what they say to help sancheze and Brian, How did that work out. I said My opion on why he was here months ago, weather it happens or not, the team was out of sync all year..why? Rex Why?Mike why? Woody

  21. By cgb on Jan 10, 2012 | Reply

    randy, the offensive line of the jets seemed to be flagged quite a bit, i was wondering of those penalties how many was caused by MARK S. while he was trying to draw opposing lineman off sides.

  22. By Karan on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    GREAT NEWS!!!!!! SCHOTTENHEIMER OUT FOR THE JETS!!!!!! HOOORAAHHHHH!!!!!!
    BREAKING NEWSS:: THIS IS GREAT NEWS!!!! YOU WILL NOT BE MISSED!!

  23. By Karan on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Human beings are never satisfied, in this case, its me, I love the fact that Schottenheimer is out, but the Jets want TONY SPARANO??? is he good??? I mean is a an offensive minded coach??

  24. By Jetsman on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    SCHOTTY/CALLAHAN ARE GONE!!!!!!!!!!!! HERE COMES TONY SPARANO!!!!!!!

  25. By cgb on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    I just heard that shotty infomed the ny jets he will not be coming back next year. Also heard tony sparano is being strongly considered as a possible replacement. Well i can’t say i like the way this whole situation is unfolding this last couple of weeks.I really think rex and tanny are scrambling to cover there own buts on this one, and like i said before shotty now becomes the fall guy. We can all sit back in false belief that the jets are doing the right thing and are moving forward with a brighter future. Let me explain what just happened. rex sat down with shotty and said looks like we will be moving in another direction and your services are no longer needed. We will offer you the respect of stepping down yourself.

  26. By cgb on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Sparano at best is a lateral move.Same offense will be on display. same goes for how we move forward and fix this team. Wow woody J. is really supporting tannenbaum and rex on this one. All the bad moves the FO has been making and rex losing the the players,not knowing his locker room. The worst part is we probably keep holmes. some one had to go . I wish the best for shotty. Maybe sparano can instill some character on this team. Rex watch and learn.

  27. By davetharave on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Many fans on this site have gotten their wish today . . Brian Schottenheimer announces he will NOT return as OC next season.

  28. By DKM on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Well so it has become realty most of the jets nation just got there wish SB is gone and it needs to be seen how some of the die hards on this website will interpret his departure. Since shotty decided not to come back I will gladly monitor what the likes of Frank, Chicago Bob, Joe, have to say. Is it either schotty wasn’t good Wich I have to agree or is it he saw the writing on the wall and that whole coaching stuff isn’t good. However since there seem to be a whole bunch of changes doing the last couple of days on the offensive side I think Rex and Tanny are on the right track and finally showing some back bone here.

  29. By DKM on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    I for one still believe Rex and Tanny deserve a chance to right the Ship and Mark is still young enough to get a chance with a another OC before I throw him under the Bus. Smart offseason FA singings and a good draft we will be right back into the Playoffs. Mort is reporting that the Jets set there sites on Sparano Wich I still think he did a decent job considering he knew he was out the Door. And let’s face it if for what ever reason that is not working next season and Woody has the slightest doubt that the Brass is not even getting close in competing for the SB in 2014 in our own hometown, they all going to be out the Door anyway.

  30. By Christopher on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Shottys gone Shottys gone….happy days Shotty is gone.

  31. By Christopher on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Blinka….you forgot one other Giants tendancy…draft a good QB once a decade. Can’t remember the last good QB we drafted, I know we passed on several over the years.

    Hope the Jets don’t give up on McElroy, but he has a tough task, now he has to back up his words and prove he is a leader.

  32. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    And so by the time Schotty leaves, it’s overshadowed by all kinds of other moves. Not surprising since he shoulda been fired no later than November 2009 but Rex either wouldn’t or couldn’t make it happen. My first impressions are: Callahan wouldn’t have changed much as OC and nobody’s gonna turn down a chance to go to DAL. At least Rex has to listen to Sparano if he’s the OC and though I have no use for the Wildcat, Sparano, who likes throwing long, got a monster season out of Marshall with Moore at QB. Ellard is the fall guy for Schotty and Sanchez’s mostly bad yr, but the most interesting thing may well be possibly dumping Clinkscales before the 2012 draft. See what I mean, Ira? More than a few folks here have long advocated THAT move!

  33. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    And here’s my version of optimism: The coaching moves finally put Rex in charge. For those of you who think he’s a good HC, we’ll find out now, probably in a single yr. He’s got the QB he claims is already elite, a new OC, a bunch of coaching spots to fill with new guys, and maybe even a chance to drive the draft if Clinkscales goes. It will be a lot harder to make excuses for him and Sanchez (though I know of a few folks on this site who’ll stop at nothing to do so) if he can’t turn the Jets around significantly in 2012. That doesn’t mean he has to win the SB but he does have to get the team back into contention. My sense is we won’t be contenders until both Sanchez and Rex are gone, but what’s going on now is better than nothing.

  34. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Seeing Schotty encouraged/convinced/forced to resign may be good news for Holmes and it may say something about how much of the lack of team unity had to do with Sanchez, Schotty, and our truly pathetic passing game. Both Cimini and an uncredited writer on the NFL site say that if the Jets don’t also hire a new QB coach to work with MS, hiring Sparano makes “no sense.” I’m just happy that with these moves, no one (well, maybe Spicer) will be able to say after next yr that Rex hasn’t been given the reins of the team, MS hasn’t gotten his chance to step up, and so on. Like Arte and I said and I said on this site yesterday, another disappointing yr in 2012 and no one will oppose Woody if he dumps Sanchez and Rex and starts all over in 2013.

  35. By IRA on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Randy, Great job with those #’s. TJ really had a good year and while i wanted Weatherford back they really didn’t lose much at all.
    TFL’s are so strange. The D has trouble stopping the run but they are getting good push at the line of scrimmage at times. Don’t get it.
    Now lets move on to Schotty. I wish him well and maybe it was time for both sides to move on. The Giants game sealed the deal for me for sure.
    Now Sparano i love the fire that he brings and the sidelines could sure use it. Guess Callahan’s job with the OL and going to somebody outside the team makes sense. But Sparano was never an OC and this does worry me. Yes he will get back to the ground and pound which is a good thing.

  36. By Kevin65fan on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    AAAMEN…AAAMEN….AAAMEN…AMEN…AMEN…. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out schotty…..BUT Soprano…SOPRANO…Oh dear…feel sorry for you Tom64….never get rid of this ‘wildcat’. One thing I cannot stand is chicken players making comments and ripping players. HEY…MAN UP…McElroy did….his name is out there….think half this stuff is made up by the media (NOY you Randy or Eric)…but our New York Tabloids. A “Good Source” or a “Prominent Figure” or an “Veteran Player”….give me a break…and having the gall to call out your QB…Just don’t know who to believe in reading this garbage in the Daily News…from a guy who probably never touched a football in his life…

  37. By oasus on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Karan, the RB coach isn’t the issue.

  38. By paul pgfig01 on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    yeah Shotty is gone. No more excuses Rex and Sanchez hopefully Jets get better protection for MS and get back to ground and pound when all their success happened in 2010. Thank you for finally giving fans a giant sigh of relief.

  39. By Tom Spicer on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Gabreil, Why dont you read the whole post before you over react. What did I say about Wilkerson or Ellis? NOTHING THATS WHAT. I think you meant to say something to Gary C but YOU OVERACTED & COMMENTED TO QUICK.

  40. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Karan, I agree with about 75% of your moves with a few exceptions like Leonhard, who I’d hire as a DB coach before I brought him back as a starter, and of course Rex and Sanchez but now their challenge gets more interesting. Kevin65, I could maybe live with the occasional Wildcat play if Kerley keeps throwing better than Smith and Sanchez put together. But if the Wildcat, Sparano, “ground and pound,” or anything else is used to excuse MS from stepping up into that class of QBs who can carry the team on their back now and then, we, he, and Rex will fail. And Spicer will have to abandon his hobby of inventing reasons that our weak O isn’t Sanchez’s fault. I think I heard his next one has something to do with Mitt Romney and Bain Capital…

  41. By Frank on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    If they don’t hire Haley this move is gonna blow up in their faces. I like Sparano I like all guys from the Parcells tree and wouldn’t doubt Woody spoke to Parcells about this move. 64 you hate the wildcat that is funny because Sparano is the one who started it and Rex likes it you can bet your bottom dollar we will be running wild next year. The problem with that is we don’t have the RB’s to do it which makes my comments yesterday all the more important that we get a stub RB and hopefully Forte.
    Sparano brings nothing to the table to help Sanchez so hiring Haley another Parcells guy and passing guru has to be made and that may be why they haven’t announced the hire of Sparano its probably a package deal.

  42. By Frank on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Regardless of any idiotic comments to the contrary losing Callahan is a blow to the team. There is no doubt he is the best line coach in the NFL plus he is a quality guy. Second if Clinksdale leaves that will be another blow he is a great talent evaluator and led a great group of guys. Its not his fault that TanWoody gives away draft picks like a dunken sailor and its not his fault ultimately that Rex and Tanwoody are making the choices and trades. Since Rex got here and got his input into the draft it has stunk. Before that we were making good picks and draft trades. The philosophy has been turned upside down by drafting for need instead of the best player available and that is why the draft has stunk the last few years. Rex needs to go!!!

  43. By DKM on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Oh joe we GET IT you’ve mentioned it 225 times he threw 2 INT’s to an interior lineman lets just cut em and run em out off Town. Smmaaartttt.

  44. By DKM on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Karan a lot of things to do on your wish list there some of them i agree but all of them Oh boy lets just get rid of everybody. I like a more smarter approache than that. I think Thomas and Pace are still very much servicable so is Eric S. with less responsebilitys. And by the way when we draftet Vlad Ducasse, even Gil B. said on the NFL network that the Kid is at Least a 3 year project well we coming up on year 3 lets see what he can do.

  45. By GaryC on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    jet fan tom, I am glad you remembered my posts concerning clinkscales who seems to be getting a pass,everybody keeps bringing up Tannenbaum but he is getting his info from Clinkscales,head of college scouting, Why Sparano,I do not know,why there has not been a mention of Fassel and don’t know either.As for the character issues,as you can tell by the newspapers today,there is a lot of back stabbing of sanchez by a lot of gutless players.yeah,character means a lot more than you think and these players are acting like bullies who got punched in the mouth by a nerd.they cannot deal with the adversity this season has brought and they are looking to throw sanchez under your crowded bus.

  46. By GaryC on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Why is it people believe the papers when it lies to what there thinking but it is propagander when it is not what they believe,Like when Rich Cimini writes.

  47. By DKM on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Rusell Scotty is on IR so was Powell for most of the year and i still dont understand how most of you guys think Wilson was a bad pick. Since we picked him he has improved on a constant base. Sometimes i think people are to quick to put these kids out the door without giving them a chance to develop. Not every Pick in any Organization is going to be a starter right away, and i understand in New york the scruteny is Higher than in other Citys and we acspect more but sometime you draft somebody who needs a little work and the time schould be given to them.

  48. By Bennett on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    I have some history with corporations and I did not like the way the Schotty situation was handled. The class way to do it is to call him in as soon as the move was decided,and simply tell him we are going to make a change. Tannenbaum choose to let him dangle for over a week while looking for replacements ” in case he got a head coaching job” This is not class. It was needlessly cruel, and I’am sure embarasing , He had no choice but to resign . I’m truly surprised that Mr. T has got this far and still not learned how to make a neccessary change with dignity

  49. By DKM on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Given, first time HC, a young QB and other players for that matter, time to develop doesnt always mean making excuses for them 64 Tom. No HC who went with a young QB twice to a AFC championship game schould be let go. Rex doesnt even have a losing record. Where else in the Country does that happen, only in NY BABY. I do happen to agree with those recent moves the whole Jets Org. is about to make they do need to be a contender next year. Im not saying for a SB but they schould be in position to compete for it, the following year. If not, severe changes will come anyway. Trust me everybody will be gone.

  50. By Tom Spicer on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Tom 64, For you to make excuses for Holmes the quitter & to try the blame the lack of team unity on the QB is a new low for you. I honestly thought you were bigger then that. Do not defend a quitter & a team cancer as per HIS teamates.

  51. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    GaryC, forget “character” for a moment and ponder this: The Jet players who trashed Sanchez simply don’t want to play for him. That story, which is breaking like wildfire today, is perfect poetic justice and you couldn’t script it better: Rex keeps insisting to everyone that Sanchez is the man and eventually not even his players believe him. Or maybe Rex and Mr T’s talk last week about “Mark’s the starter” was actually a reaction to the team’s giving up on him. LIKE I TOLD YOU GUYS WHEN WEBB TOOK THAT PICK-6 73 YDS FOR A TD, NO WAY HOLMES IS THE ONLY GUY ON THE TEAM THAT HAS SEEN THRU SANCHEZ! Now we’ll see if a new system, new coaches, anything can make MS play better…if there’s still a Jet team around in ’12 that wants to play for him.

  52. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Also GaryC, by only seeing events thru this lens of “character,” you’re missing most of the story. What was unfathomable only a wk ago — McElroy speaking out — is now likely revealed as small potatoes. The kid most likely saw that the “lack of unity” on the team has to do with a lack of faith in Sanchez and, being a new QB, might’ve figured that he has nothing to lose by talking himself off the Titanic. DKM, there are any number of media sources talking about how Sanchez hasn’t gotten better and now players on the team are saying it. Spicer will demand that they’re all traded, of course, but anyone who can’t see what’s happening now is really dreaming. The team is rebelling because we’ve got the wrong QB and Rex is in damage control mode.

  53. By oasus on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    One person has a bad game: OMG DROP HIM DROP HIM DROP HIM!!!!! This fan base overreacts so much. The person who has one bad game could have had SEVERAL good ones before that and they would still want him gone. I am sold on Kyle Wilson long term. He is going to be good, and I believe he should be in consideration for starting.
    So what do people think of the anonymous comments aimed at Sanchez in the NYD News?

  54. By Allan O'Dane on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Ok, Now I am fed up! In the Daily News (my local area newspaper) a number of jet players blasted Sanchez. You know what I have to say about that?..GUTLESS! COWARDS!..at least your 3rd string QB had the (not going to say it) to put his name on it. Right now the Jets are the laughing stock in the league. Rex makes it look like we so big and bad…Rex you and Mike T are making the Jets look like clowns. You think Peyton wants to come to this mess? Players just made it worse. After watching Hardknocks do you think anyone would trust Mike T.? This team two years ago most of the players in the NFL wanted to play for Ryan and the Jets….you think those same players want to play for this team now? Do you think that this circus would ever…

  55. By russ on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    The definition of mental illness and being a Jet fan is the same…Firing Shotty wioll not produce a pass rush or pass defense…Cant call plays on an OL that cant open holes or a runner to slow to get there in time…AFC championships all were determined by pressuring quarterback..somethin we cant do……JETS MANAGEMENT CANNOT COMPREHEND FUNDAMENTAL FOOTBALL>>>>>ITS THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE ALL ELSE GRAVY

  56. By DKM on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    By the Way Randy and Eric great work it is very much appriciated. Keep it up.

  57. By Allan O'Dane on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    ever happen under Parcells?..Cowher?…Johnson..? Bellichek?…NOPE! Rex let’s his players mouth off to the media..but Parcells knew if players did this it would cause issues in the locker room. That’s why he had a gag order. Sometimes players need to be protected from their own big mouths!. You know what..Sanchez may not be our QB of the future but at least he didn’t throw people under the bus..He could have said “Hey..my offensive line stinks.” or my WR’s are not running the right routes and dropping balls” Or even “Hey..the defense keeps letting teams run up 90+ yards game winning drives!”. Nope he put 99% of the blame on his shoulders. I always said that Sanchez was placed as a starter to early. He should have sat on the bench for

  58. By GaryC on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    jet fan tom, now you can live with the wildcat, revisionist thinking again,rising like the phoenix,seeing that sparano might be here,you saw kerley throw like Broadway Joe and you see visions of Mike Vick in the backfield.Kerley to Keller on a 50 yard bomb, I can see it all now.

  59. By Tom Spicer on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    DKM, Mark had 2 picks to lineman is 543 attempts but I get your point. Joe can only bring up the same stuff every time. Also it was to a DE no to a interior lineman like he keeps saying.

  60. By Tom Spicer on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Just when you think the Jets make a good move by getting rid of Schotty the cancel it out by hiring Sparano as the OC. He was a o line coach for the Cowboys & a head coach for Miami. Did he calls the plays for Miami? If not why are we hiring him?

  61. By No one cares what Blinka thinks on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Karen, sorry but all that happened was they got rid of the scapegoat. We have a poorly assembled team and we have a dismal future.

    Scjoe,
    That’s part of my point the 4-3 is simple. No need for a lineman that can play nosetackle. No need to find hybrid types that can play the 3-4 outside linebacker. Just get the fastest and strongest guy and let them go. If you have those 3-4 guys, great. It was very apparent that Mangini did not have those players and he ran it anyway. Rex can do more with what he has. But seeing the Giants D, the 4-3 seem to run itself with great talent without elaborate schemes. Heck, they have no linebackers.

  62. By Tom Spicer on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Rex, Is now on the hot seat when he was hired they made him take Callahan & Schotty. Now both of those guys are gone & the OC & O line coach will be hand picked by him. If it does not work he is OUT!

  63. By Allan O'Dane on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    2-3yrs and learn under a solid Vet. He only started 1yr of college football. Even Pete Carroll knew he wasn’t ready. There’s a lot of things that went wrong for Sanchez. Schotty, 2 wideouts removed from last years roster and O-line that was horrible and no running game. All of these would effect any NFL QB. Now, I am not saying he didn’t make bonehead throws and INTS so let’s see if someone can push him. If not..well back to the drawing board. If we have one more season like this…Sorry Rex but you and Mike T. are next. And we as loyal Jet fans have to go through another rebuilding phase. Things must be addressed quickly get the bad seeds out..bring in proven vets that can still play this game that won’t allow this garbage in the locker

  64. By Allan O'Dane on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    room, draft for the future. RT,ILB,OLB,S,DE,RG and running back. Can someone in the Jets organization please hire the person who scouts players for the NE pats. At least they can evaulate players.

  65. By Tom Spicer on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Unamed sources said this or that. 1 either made up by the guys to sell papers or 2 the guys will not man up & put his name to it. Either way it stinks man up like Brandon Moore & Wayne Hunter who said Holmes is a quitter & a team cancer. Rex said Mark is the 1st one there & the last one to leave. So somebody is lying!

  66. By Tom Spicer on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Joe, Frank & Tom 64, Since you think Mark is clearly the worst QB in the NFL please tell me the QBS in the NFL now that you would rather have then him. I put my own list together. 1 brady 2 fitzpatrick 3 big ben 4 schaub 5 peyton 6 rivers 7 palmer 8 eli 9 vick 10 romo 11 rodgers 12 stafford 13 cutler 14 brees 15 ryan 16 newton. There are 32 teams to me he is the 17th best QB in the NFL. A middle tier QB not in the bottom but only in his 3rd year. More than half of the above guys did NOTHING for 4, 5 or even 6 years until they blew up. So to say get rid of him after 3 years unless you are getting Peyton or Brees is just FOOLISH!

  67. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    I still blame Holmes, Spicer, and I still think he should go. Unfortunately, it seems that the same Rex and Mr T who aren’t assessing Sanchez honestly have chosen to fire Schotty and keep Holmes. But that was last wk’s and maybe last yr’s news. The much larger pt today re Mehta’s story is that a number of Jets call Sanchez lazy, say he won’t get better without pressure from another QB, and say he may not get better anyway as “he’s shown us what he’s capable of.” I TOLD YOU IN AUGUST that Revis’ quote about the season depending on Sanchez more than anything else was a key remark, but you and others wouldn’t listen. It was more important to maintain your almost religious belief that Sanchez HAS TO be the guy. Well, go argue with the players!

  68. By Bennett on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    This idea that is being floated of having two OC’s one for rushing and one for passing is ridiculous. There is a reason that all teams in the history of the NFl only had one OC. because two is totally unworkable, and just a huge disaster waiting to happen. You can have a coach UNDER the OC to handle much of the rush or pass duties but a dual OC role is beyond dumb. To many cooks…..

  69. By Kevin65fan on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Agree Gary C…Cimini is a gutless writer and is full of here-say articles. I remember Steve Serby when he covered the jets…another loser writer with a bunch of he said this and he said that…but no names mentioned. Hoping for a knock out by Richard Todd on him with all the garbage that went on back then. Don’t trust any writers like that…except for our guys here that state the facts and truths…Randy and Eric. Bennet, you don’t know what went behind closed doors..sure sounds like Schotty resigned…and then here he was given an option…fire or resign….and you will still be paid regardless on your final year. He took the man route and resigned. Nobody wants on their resume “Fired”.

  70. By GaryC on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Jet fan tom, didn’t hear anything about Lack of Faith in Sanchez the previous two years, maybe Sanchez should of said he had lack of faith in holmes,with his fumbling and footballs going through his hands all year,and waiting for Plastico to get down the field before he was swallowed up by the defense,just remember,receivers can make quarterbacks look real bad if they want to,such as not going full board,running incorrect patterns,no wonder sanchez got into with Holmes,everyone thought the 1919 Black Sox scandal was on the up and up too.

  71. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    I was only joking, GaryC, I’ll always hate the Wildcat and believe, as proven by the QBs on teams like GB, NE, NO, PIT, and maybe even DEN, that it’s something used by teams with no faith in their QB, like Sparano had none in his. But that doesn’t mean Kerley didn’t throw a better pass than Smith ever did as a Jet and Sanchez did all yr. Jet fans need to pay attention now because events are overtaking some of our longest-held beliefs and resentments. Everyone knows how I feel about Schotty but if it’s true that a lot of Jets have given up on Sanchez, Schotty now looms as a scapegoat. And with this exodus of coaches, the pressure is finally on Rex to convince Woody, the team, and us fans he can rebuild the O with MS at QB — it’s about time!

  72. By DKM on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    64 Tom i have to admit at this point i did not see this coming, but who knows how credible the sources are since nobody wants to be named, but turmoil unfolding like this however small or big is never good especialy after a season like we had. If rex or tanny cant control this it will blow up in our faces pretty quick and than good by 2012 season. cause the media outlets would nothing but love to have field day with JETS ORG. Pictureing Frencesa blooting about what miserable Affair the JETS are. Help us all.

  73. By Tom Spicer on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Russ, You are 100% right the game is won & lost at the line of scrimmage and has been since the game of football started. Guys like Joe & Tom 64 think Tom Brady has a magic forcefield around his body that does not allow guys get near him. When the real reason is they have great O lines EVERY year. If you do not protect the QB & on D if you do not put pressure on the QB. YOU CAN NOT WIN! Simple football 101 you can not get sacked 40 or more times & still be good unless you are a top 5 QB in the world.

  74. By cgb on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    shotty to me , i always felt he was out of the loop. The big three the owner woody J. Then tanny and rex. During hard knocks on HBO last year,you can see shootty being asked if he needed clowney in the offense,”will you be using him this year significantly.because we really need to adjust the roster and need space for other players”. It felt like shotty was being summoned to the principal’s office to be informed that they needed space on the roster,and never really considered what shotty would have had to say. I think shotty’s response was I will not be using him in the offense that much. clowney was in westoff’s doghouse so he wasn’t going to be part of the ST’S unit so they cut clowney. woodhead was also put on the PS and was lost

  75. By cgb on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    its hard to figure out who exactly is in charge of player moves.rex has to deal with players he absolutely needs on the team. Then any UFA,FA tanny gets to say if they stay or if they go.I guess because of contract signing and the whole “how much money are we going to pay you thing”. Tell me rex did not want JC,BE, or even D. WOODY back. joey clincksdale is gone now maybe this free’s up room for rex to be more of a decision maker on who they draft. lets see what happens.

  76. By Bennett on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Just by watching Sanchez objectively from the outside and compared to other starters a few things stand out: He does not have “pocket presence” and does indeed move into sacks – not good downfield vision and reads- is not a cold weather QB- cannnot stand to take hits making him rush throws instead of making the right throw and taking the resultant hit – has not learned to ‘eat the ball” when it is neccessary and hence forces dumb plays(has to learn to take a sack when you have to take a sack. All this and much more adds up to a below average NFL QB who has not yet grasped the fundamentals of a starting QB in the NFL

  77. By DKM on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Tom Spicer i like MS and he does deserve a another shot like i mentiond before, and i do believe he will be decent QB for us in this Leauge but trust me the day Brady retires BB will be out the NFL too. The notion by some of these fans on this side that future HOF QB come allong every draft is crazy. You dont draft a guy like Brady every time. I bat when everything is set and done Andrew Luck or Cam Newton for this matter want be as good as Brady or Manning. Did BB knew when he drafted Brady in the 6th Round he would be one of the best (arguebly). And by the way who was his QB before MO LEWIS came along. Everyone and you know who i mean STOP thinking Sanchez has to be Brady, Manning or even Brees to win a SB.

  78. By cgb on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    tom 64. kerley threw 1 pass. B. SMITH broke all kinds of passing records while in college. Jets never seriously let smith throw the ball in NY. Smith had some good completion’s as a jet i wouln’t say kerley ‘s pass was better . And as far as saying kerleys pass was better then any pass MS threw is absolutely ludicrous.

  79. By kleckofan on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t need a bunch of anonymous players to tell me that Sanchez is not instilling confidence in anyone. Listen to the guys on the Jets’ own network show on SNY; say what you will about Ray Lucas, but he played for Parcells and had guts w/o much talent. He rips Sanchez after every game win or lose, so does Esiason. Mark my words, this upcoming year will be a disaster for Sanchez and then we’ll have to hear that it’s the new system and new coaches, “it takes time to learn” etc etc. I was thrilled with picking Mark after his Rose Bowl performance, but I’m a realist, he’s not the answer. The two AFC title games were reached in spite of him, not because of him (with a couple of exceptions)

  80. By kleckofan on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    OC’s don’t teach poise, pocket presence or leadership. It’s v. difficult to lead when you don’t have the goods. I will pull for the kid next year, but I will not be unrealistic in my assessment. Are any of you watching the other teams in the playoffs? Can’t you admit that when Sanchez goes back to throw you get that “Oh boy…” feeling that truly talented QB’s don’t inspire? Agree w Blink on the D, lets get some athletes like the rest of the league, simplify things and let the boys play ball. Schemes are not the end all.

  81. By Frank on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer were there is smoke there is fire…Sanchez is a lousy QB everyone knows it and clearly his team mates have had enough. What other NFL QB is caught on film eating hot dogs during the game or picking his nose and trying to wipe it on Brunell. Eveything with this team is rapidly turning into a joke. This circus called Rex Ryan breeds this discontent this team has right now and we are a lot closer to another Kotite year than the SB right now.
    They better hire Haley or convince Tom Moore to be a full time coach or I promise everyone here will be begging for Shotty back.
    Rex has completely lost this team and there is no way he is getting it back its over for him and unfortunately we will have to wait another year to clean house.

  82. By Frank on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer I would add Dalton, Freeman, Flacco and Flynn in that mix. TanWoody made a huge mistake with their moves. Rex should have been fired and they should have brought in Joe Philbin…awful news about his son and signed Flynn as a FA and make him and Sanchize-not compete.
    Clearly TanWoody has lost their collective mind and still drinking the Rex Kool Aide as Rome burns down.

  83. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Stop acting like Sanchez set the record for sacks, Spicer, and stop pretending he looked that much better with no pressure. GaryC, the 3rd yr isn’t the 1st yr so maybe some players have seen enough of MS by now. I take pride in seeing the Schotty situation exactly the same way as The Great Blinka, much as I never liked Schotty he’s clearly the scapegoat for the mess that Rex and Mr T, with their denial about MS, have invited. But the fact that me, Allan, and Spicer agree about next yr shows that that guy that Tebow’s always talking about does work in wondrous ways. If Rex revamps the coaching staff but doesn’t leave himself an out to dump MS, he won’t get more than a yr or so to show results, which is fine. He’s had an easy ride so far.

  84. By scjoe on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Blinka, I see your point, but I think you know Rex as much as all of us, there is no way, NO WAY, he ever even thinks about going to a 4-3. So, that said, he needs to go out and get the proper personal to run his 3-4 more effectively then he has, and I for one have confidence he can do it. I see flashes even though he never really had that stud OLB who defenses have to game plan for, when he does I think he will make people forget the 4-3.

  85. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    cgb, I’m joking, if just barely, about Kerley’s pass being better than any Sanchez threw this yr. Read Bennett’s totally reasoned, accurate take on all the things MS so obviously lacks after 3 yrs. DKM, it’s true that not every team has a great QB, only the great teams do. Some of us are still in this dreamworld whereby we can have a “decent” QB and have more than a “decent” team, which is nonsense. And where do you get off saying “even Brees”? Are you, like, not aware that on most Sundays Brees looks like one of the most dangerous QBs in NFL history? The guy routinely has 33 for 38 games (had won in the SB), often throws for more than 10 yds p/att, and rallies his team to victory when they’re down by 3 TDs or more. Now THAT’S a SB QB!

  86. By Steve on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Wayne Hunter put a fear in Sanchez this year and his confidence in 5 seconds went bye bye. once the offensive line is healed I think you will see him learning to step up in the pocket. I dont he ever stepped forward once, also he need to learn how to throw a pass that comes down on a tall reiceiver, so his hight makes a difference. funny he threw high to braylon all the time. and stopped when he got Buress. weird! But 100% agree he can still learn these little things. must get a qb coach !

  87. By Jimmer on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Most of us have said Shotty needed to go at one time or another. The upcoming year we’ll find out if Sanchez needs to go or not,,, for you Sanchez Haters. Maybe the brass has started reading the boards here. The fans in Denver got Tebow in as starter from 4th string. How’s that working out for them?
    I really think McElroy should be given a legitimate chance to win the starting job. Not the typical, “any player can earn their way onto the starting lineup” babble. If Sanchez sees he may lose his job to a 7th rd pick, he’d be more than threatened, than by any has been QB many are clamoring for.

  88. By GaryC on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Jet Fan Tom, you said it, the players don’t want to play for sanchez.like he is the head coach or something.Sanchez is more important to this franchise then the players you say don’t want to play for them,Some old dodger fans will remember them getting rid of players who didn’t want to play with Jackie Robinson, History repeats and jets need to get rid of those players too.

  89. By cgb on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    I noticed Mark S. demeanor though out the year deteriorate his confidence seemed to be shaken,even though he always said the right thing when talking to the media. Some of his on field body language was also hard to interpret. like when he takes a big hit and he stumbles and twist’s his body as if he is hit by a gunman’s bullet. Remind’s me of those old western’s when it takes an hour to die.Maybe some of his teammates think he is not the leader he needs to be. coaching staff needs to give him a mental makeover,instill some on the field mental toughness. I really believe he has thje skill set and will develop into a good QB. look at eli manning he was exactly the same way in his year 4.

  90. By cgb on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Most of the reasons i hear about Mark’s bad play this year .He has bad pocket presense.runs into sacks,cannot take a hit, doesn’t see down field,has not yet learned when to take a sack,or when to throw the ball away. most of this is what i have been saying all along,it is because of bad FO decisions . really guy’s that’s it. they also need to take the heat for some of what happened. Mark does need some one to push him,maybe Mcelroy, or some FA,or draft choice. He should’nt get a free ride mark needs to man up ,and some of the other jet players need to grow -up.

  91. By Ron on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Sanchez did take a few steps back, but in fairness to him, it’s hard to focus on the receivers down field when you have to worry about your offensive line holding its ground. There were quite a few times in games where I did see his focus shift primarily to the line, especially after a hard hit.
    Sparano is really not the best choice for offensive coordinator for this team. If he is going to ficus primarily on the run, Tomlinson has to go and they have to draft a hard hitting between the tackles runner to spell Greene.
    Jets also need a pair if good pass rushers. Even a bad quarterback can carve you up if there is no pressure.

  92. By Ron on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Sanchez needs a challenge this season. They need a good proven backup QB that can challenge him for the job. If that doesn’t fire him up, there is a problem and he has to go.

  93. By joe on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer for weeks i have been telling you exactly what my NFL ALUMNI BUDDYS have been telling me about SANCHEZ (they have many ties to active players esp on the Giants )AND YOU REFUSED TO BELIEVE ME . SPICER now do you believe me .he guy has limitations that make it EXTREMELY DOUBTFUL FOR HIM TO EVER WIN A SB

  94. By Jet Fan Since '64 on Jan 12, 2012 | Reply

    GaryC, less than two weeks in you get the Stretch Like Gumby Award for 2012 by mentioning Mark Sanchez anywhere in the same galaxy as Jackie Robinson.

  95. By GaryC on Jan 12, 2012 | Reply

    jet fan tom, you’re right I think Jackie Robinson had better hands, should of played wide receiver this year.

  96. By joe on Jan 12, 2012 | Reply

    SPICER Francessa hit the nail on the head today when he claimed Sanchez was the ABSOLUTE LEAST EFFICIENT QB IN THE NFL. I really dont know what you see in the guy as hes regressed to the point of being BAD REALLY BAD.Woody STATED YEST THAT HE THINKS ANOTHER QB SHOULD BE BROUGHT IN TO PUSH SANCHEZ as some know are questioning his work ethic.Hell if 50 million doesnt motivate nothing will

  97. By wayne on Jan 12, 2012 | Reply

    Ganaway or Richardson, then add defensive speed…….Front seven first……..We know they can’t lean too heavily on GQ’s arm so they have to fortify RB or ‘ship be sinkin’ and heads be rollin’………Todd Haley will be your new HC

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