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Draft Analysts’ Opinions on Jets’ Round 1 Pick

Posted by Andrew LeRay on February 15, 2012 – 1:54 pm

Updated, 2:53 p.m. ET

Although the 2011 NFL season ended not more than two weeks ago, it feels like forever since the Jets last took the field. Unfortunately, it’s only February and we have a long way to go until the Green & White head to Cortland, N.Y., for 2012 training camp.

For now, winter continues to roll toward spring, which signals one of the more exciting dates on an NFL fan’s calendar: the draft. The annual April football extravaganza provides for a long weekend full of anticipation and optimism as the top college players wait to see whose NFL colors they will don in the fall. Fans will glue themselves to the television as their team selects the next piece to a championship puzzle.

The draft is still more than two months away, but it’s never too early to speculate, right? We won’t make any premature guesses, but we can take a look at what the experts are saying right now about the Jets and their first-round selection, 16th overall:

Today — Charley Casserly, NFL Network: Courtney Upshaw, OLB, Alabama

“At some point, the Jets need to find a linebacker that can get to the passer.”

Tuesday — Rob Rang, CBSSports.com: Mark Barron, S, Alabama

“The Jets have struggled against tight ends this season and could use an instinctive, big-hitting safety to fall into their lap. While the team certainly has other needs to consider, if Alabama’s Mark Barron is available, perhaps it might be wise to take the easy way out.”

Tuesday — Dane Brugler, NFLDraftScout.com: Melvin Ingram, OLB, South Carolina

“Ingram might be the most versatile defender in this draft. He finds ways to create pressure in the backfield.”

Feb. 10 — Russ Lande, The Sporting News: Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama

“Mark Sanchez regressed in 2011, and the Jets need a strong rushing attack to help him. Richardson has the talent to be a dynamic offensive weapon.”

Feb. 7 — Chad Reuter, NFL Network: David DeCastro, G, Stanford

“The Jets averaged 3.8 yards a carry in the running game and gave up 40 sacks this season, meaning changes are coming on the offensive line. DeCastro possesses everything a team could want up front, so he won’t escape the top 20 overall selections of this draft.”

Feb. 6 — Robert Davis, FootballsFuture.com: Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame

“Floyd has the size and leaping ability to do what Plaxico Burress did for the team last year, but can do a lot more damage outside of the red zone. He would be a great complement to Santonio Holmes, but he also has the ability to become the team’s #1 target one day.”

Feb. 6 — Evan Silva, Rotoworld.com: Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State

“Blackmon is a media darling after twice winning college football’s Biletnikoff Award and scoring three touchdowns in the Fiesta Bowl, two on busted coverages and the third on a badly blown tackle. NFL teams will not grade Blackmon as a top-ten prospect after he runs a 4.55-4.60 at the Combine. Blackmon would fit in New York, however, as a physical, possession-type No. 2 receiver to bookend Santonio Holmes.”

Feb. 2 — Todd McShay, ESPN: Mark Barron, S, Alabama

“The Jets need help in the secondary to deal with the Patriots’ tight end duo of Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez twice a season, and Barron is the only 2012 safety prospect with a first-round grade. He does everything well, showing instincts and playmaking skills in coverage and the ability to be a physical run defender when playing near the box.”

Jan. 27 — Bucky Brooks, NFL.com: Courtney Upshaw, OLB, Alabama

“The Jets desperately need a pass rusher to help their defense return to the ranks of the elite. Upshaw’s motor and relentlessness will allow Rex Ryan to scale back the risky blitzing in critical situations.”

Jan. 18 — Mel Kiper Jr., ESPN: Mark Barron, S, Alabama

“In Barron, the Jets would get the best safety in the draft, a big, rangy talent with big-game experience and the ability to match up against taller receivers and tight ends. The Jets have schemed around a weakness at safety, but it’s time to put a better talent back there.”

Jan. 17 — Elliot Harrison, NFL.com: Mark Barron, S, Alabama

“The sooner Jets fans don’t have to see Eric Smith running five yards behind a receiver, the happier they’ll be. Rex Ryan, too.”

Jan. 16 — Charles Davis, NFL.com: Nick Perry, DE, USC

“The Jets have a glaring need for a pass rusher, and this youngster really came on late.”

According to these experts, Barron is the early favorite for the Jets in the first round. Considered the top safety in this year’s class, he was a key to the Crimson Tide’s national championship run in 2011. He is coming off a campaign where he was a consensus All-American, leading the nation’s top overall defense.

Despite the success he enjoyed this past season, Barron’s current injury situation serves as a proverbial fly in the soup for NFL teams needing secondary help. He underwent double-hernia surgery in January and will need at least two months to recover. He will not be able to participate in the combine and is doubtful to take part in Alabama’s pro day set for March 7.

While Barron currently stands as the top safety prospect, look for players like Oklahoma State’s Markelle Martin, South Carolina’s Antonio Allen and Boise State’s George Iloka to climb up draft boards in the coming months.

Among the remaining opinions, four experts believe a pass rusher (Ingram, Upshaw, Perry) is the right choice, two are looking for a wide receiver (Floyd, Blackmon), one thinks an offensive lineman (DeCastro) is the call, and another sees a standout running back (Richardson) joining RB Shonn Greene in the Jets backfield.

Take these projections with a grain of salt. Mock drafts are only now starting to trickle out of the national media, and many more are on their way. Nonetheless, it’s a good starting point for all Jets fans itching to hear the first name called on April 26.


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185 Responses to “Draft Analysts’ Opinions on Jets’ Round 1 Pick”

  1. By karan on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    We have so many needs!!! I dont know if the jets can pull this off!
    Need a WR, a blocking TE, QB depth, O-line depth, a RT, a FS/SS, safety depth, a pash rusher, OLB, its just too much, hopefully the jets will be smart this offseason unlike last season which was a disaster before it began

  2. By robertpapalia on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    Do not waste a #1 pick on Barron if he can`t play until August. Instead a pass rusher like Ingram or Upshaw if available is the way to go. The Jets can`t afford to screw up this pick like they did a few years ago with Gholston.

  3. By Kurt on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    Thank you for the article.

    However, it was recently reported that Barron has double sports Hernia & will be out for an extended time frame.He now likely is 5th round or later type prospect.

  4. By GaryC on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    I like my pick of Brockers of LSU seeing that none of these experts picked him.didn’t I read that Barron is suffering from a double hernia, scratch the idea of drafting him.Another guy not mentioned Jeffrey the wideout from South Carolina, if he runs good at the combine at 6’4 225 pounds he can get the image of Plastico out of my mind.

  5. By GaryC on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    this is to jet fan tom, this is my first tidbit for this years draft, watch Bert Reed from Florida State,he will be this years Antonio Brown,either a low draft choice or free agent who will become a very good special teamer and possible wideout.

  6. By STEVEN on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    Defense: Ingram, Upshaw, Perry, Poe
    Offense: Trent Richardson, Fleener, Decastro

    Get the pass rush and someone to cover TE’s. These little cornerbacks and safetys can’t cover these Giant TE’s.
    If we have a DL called wall street and some pass rushers called green meanies, at least it will be fun to watch. The QB’s will be afraid to play us. he Quarterback is in a hurry we will intercept. If the Quarterback is being sacked we will get fumbles. Turnovers RULE. Fear is good.

  7. By russ on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    the best drafts are when other teams react to you not vice versa…playing catch up is always a day late…build your team with solid players and success will be there…

  8. By Big John From Packys on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    We need help the most on defence I hope that is the way they go. With Green you can find another back later in the draft. As far as the guard maybe you can pick someone up in free agency. The D is where they need the most help right now and it will show right away….

  9. By Kevin65Fan on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    OMG…thats it….now Sanchize is tweeting Holmes…to be his Valentine…BARF…and you call this guy a leader…PLEASE…Somebody…Someone….beat him out in training camp so he can go sulk in the corner…this is beyond crazy….what a ….whatever…
    McElroy…show some of that Southern toughness and whip this So. Cal baby once and for all…Soprano..you better have an open mind coming into camp and don’t let NO ONE influence you on QB decision….Oh my…valentine…cookies shaped in a heart….I’m getting sick….

  10. By Doug aka BIGD on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    WE NEED UPSHAW OR INGRAM! aslo pick up big mario williams in fa and make the league fear our D!!!!

  11. By Doug aka BIGD on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    …and REX better keep up the bravado,we need that swagger,or do you all forget how previous coaches were? REX must go back to calling the D its what he does,let sparano run the O and do what you do REX! burry last season like you burried that pats ball

  12. By neauone on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    While I agree with all the opinions on who the Jets “Could” draft. The fact of the matter is there are 3 glaring needs that they must meet if they are going to be serious contenders next year. First they must rest the defense and that will only happen if they draft someone who can play RT or get one in FA. Secondly they must address the pass rush or lack of one. Thirdly they must pick up a Safety who can come in and play. So in round 1 because of the scarcity of pass rushers the Jets should make this priority one, in round 2 OL/RB depending on who is there, round 3 OL/S. Preferably an OL in round 2 and no later.

  13. By joeyjets12fla on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    all this mock draft stuff means nothing until we get to the FAs, then we’ll see where we’re gonna go with the real draft

  14. By scjoe on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    All the usual suspects, problem is you don’t know where they will go at 16 until the free agency period commences. Again, if Pohua is not resigned and Ellis is off to jail, look for Poe to get some consideration. Otherwise best athlete available who will fit their scheme. My preferences in this order-Richardson (but he will be long gone) Upshaw DeCastro, J Martin, or a trade down for Lamar Miller or Cordy Glenn. Once again, it all hinges on Free Agency so everything here is speculation at this point. A dark horse? and a bit of a gamble as well? Vontaze Burfict!

  15. By Another Tom on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    We need an impact pass rusher for sure..and a RB like Richardson would be nice..but DeCastro would probably be the safest “no brainer” pick and he would help tie the OL back together….

  16. By westcoastJET28 on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    Karan, Kurt, GaryC I’m starting to think the same way about Barron, he might be a risk due to his hernia but, in the long run he still might be exactly what we need. I recall another Bama S that played on the other side of him, I think his name is Robert Lester, don’t remember. He looked pretty solid as well for a later pick not 1st though. Also, Rambo – Georgia, Illoka – Boise St. if we can get any of these guys in the later rounds I would be happy. I still think we need to get any top notch pass rusher available with the 16th pick. Like robetpapalia said, “The Jets can`t afford to screw up this pick like they did a few years ago with Gholston.”

  17. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    Thanks for the tip, GaryC, hope it’s a better one than Ducasse. (Just kiddin’ ya.) And yeah, you’re gonna have a hard time selling us on another Boise State guy anytime soon, even if Wilson is coming along. Actually, this whole article was cheering me up until I read the part about the double hernia…

  18. By MIKE on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    One good thing about underachieving is that you get a mid round draft pick. Anything can happen here, Richardson could be there, RB tend to slip, also Riley Rieff may slip if an abundance of QB’s go in the 1st round. But the one thing Jets haven’t had since John Abraham got traded is a pass rusher. An if the Giants can beat NE consistently with the best pass rush in the league than it’s time to go that route. Ingram or Upshaw at 16. Hope RT Mike Adams is there in 2nd.

  19. By Karan on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    You guys think we should trade Shonn Greene to the Browns for Peyton Hillis?

  20. By Patty on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe we should draft Decastro to replace Hunter and have two 300 lb linemen like Hunter as TE’s and Put the 6’7′ guy the Jets worked out the other day as a wideout to replace burress. Then we could put dustin keller in to replace kerley and Patrick turner in to run with Holmes.
    Then we’d have three tall guys to throw the ball to and a stout OL to run the ball with. Then we can get pass rushers by free agency.

  21. By GaryC on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    jet fan tom, give ducasse this year but play him at guard and forget tackle.If not, then say BUST.I do not like Barron but there is a guy coming out of Montana named Trumaine Johnson who is 6’3 and around 200 pounds and I know scouts are going to say he will be a better safety than corner which he played.same can be said of Niko Thorpe, so keep an eye on these two if the jets are still in need of safety help later in draft.

  22. By GaryC on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    jet fan tom, so you have that name Shea McClellin in your head now.remember that guy everyone loved, Kevin Basped, who played at nevada reno that everyone liked.same conference,Jets just love picking players from out there.

  23. By Bennett on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    Karan I would love to have Hillis but you got to wonder the way this guy plays with such reckless abandon how durable is he going to be and when is the next injury. I think he is going to have a short career. Just the shot in the arm the Jets offense needs though, love to watch him play, good ole smash mouth, run over you instead of around you back. How bout both in our backfield, then we would really have a butt kicking ground and pound offense. Also help keep the fannies in the seats stop more jumps off the Bandwagon

  24. By jorge on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    again what did the jets get for that trade with the jaguars what pic did they get????

  25. By Randy Lange on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    jorge, we will have all the Jets’ selections for you soon on newyorkjets.com but I haven’t gotten the green light to release the official list yet. Possibly a fellow Radar reader has seen speculation about what pick the Jets will get from Jacksonville in the Dwight Lowery trade.

  26. By wayne on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    Karan, Shonn Greene is not a bad back, just not a lead guy. Peyton Hillis is a huge question mark all around…I just think no matter how much better the defense gets, if they can’t get GQ some help it’s all for naught……Obviously the RB has to be there……Been complaining about the passrush like many here, but I can’t see this coming season going anywhere if offensive woes aren’t addressed…….FA is where it really starts….We will get a better idea of their draft focus then. They can’t really stockpile at any position because they’re thin in too many areas. So their FA pickups should be somewhat telling….If they’re more strapped than we expect, then never mind…..Bargain hunting happens after draft.

  27. By Jack on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Karan… Peyton Hillis is a free agents. I would rather get RB, Marshawn Lynch, Matt Forte, Michael Bush or Mike Tolbert from free agents Or hope to get RB, Trent Richardson from the drafts. If they can’t get Richardson S, Mark Barron will be find even know he won’t be ready till the summer but he has had injuries in the pass SO Jets could be taking a risk with him I can only hope no one take him & to hope Jets can get him in the 2nd Rd.

  28. By FRANKIE on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    I know that the jets have alot of needs but we need a SAFETY IN THE WORST WAY PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DRAFT MARK BARRON IF HE IS STILL AVAILABLE AT 16 if the jets can provide tight coverage in the secondary it would open up the defense alot more and since we passed on TROY POLAMALU AND ED REED FOR PLAYERS THAT NO LONGER PLAY IN THE NFL WE NEED A SAFETY POINT BLANK AND AS FOR PASS RUSHERS OSI WILL BE A FREE AGENT THIS OFF SEASON SO THEY COULD MAKE A PLAY FOR HIM AND ALSO AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT THINKS WE SHOULD BRING BRAYLON EDWARDS BACK HIM AND SANTONIO COMPLIMENT EACH OTHER REALLY WELL IN MY OPINION AND WITH KERLEY IN THE SLOT AND KELLER AT TIGHT END IT WOULD OPEN OUR OFFENSE BACK UP.

  29. By FRANKIE on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    OR WE COULD DRAFT UPSHAW WITH THE 16TH PICK AND PICK UP A SAFETY IN ROUND 2

  30. By Charliejet on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    Q. What would be the most immediate impact on this team? A. A pass rusher. Russ you said it best in 2 sentences.

  31. By Jack on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    I also like OLB, Melvin Ingram, Michael Floyd, and if any of those guys gone then I would think Courtney Upshaw or Nick Parry should be okay. My 2nd Rd pick TE, Coby Fleener would be great if the Jets get WR, Michael Floyd and TE, Coby Fleener WOW the offense would be pretty scary for the defense. Other I like for the 2nd Rd. RT, Zebrie Sanders FSU or RT, Andrew Datko FSU. ILB, Donta Hightower Alabama, S Markelle Martin DE, Billy Winn, RB, LaMichael James RB, Marcus Lattimore RB, Lamar Miller and the later Rds I like WR, Nick Toon, S, Kenny Tate, FS, Tramain Thomas.

  32. By sal on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    why is Holmes being regarded as the jets #1, I will take Burriss loose Holmes bring in Moss and draft another, The way sanchez throws he needs tall leaping reciecvers, with back ups, cause he is going to get a few hurt along the way

  33. By scjoe on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    Karen, Peyton Hillis is an UFA.

  34. By DKM on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    hey scjoe did i get to you, couldnt find anything or was it too difficult dusting of your 50 years of Football “coaching” stuff or whatever you call it, last time i checked to strong means you will play on the line not in the backfield, and sorry for miss spelling im doing it quiet freequently i didnt now we where in english class and you the Teacher, thats ok u can correct me as long as i dont have to read your nonsense about a 3-4 or 4-3 and what functions LB have or how big they have to be for a certain systems. GIL BRAND knows more about football than you and me will ever, oldschool or new, take that to the Bank.
    You stick to bashing our QB and keep on lobbying for Richardsen that seems to be the only thing you good at.

  35. By scjoe on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    One more point about the 2012 draft, no matter what direction they choose to go, RB, OLB, OT, S, WR, what ever, they need to get it right. No more Ducasse, Gholston, Wilson, Powell, etc. The list goes on and on. They need to get at least the top 3 or 4 selections on the field beginning opening day, not watching from the sideline and being referred to as busts. I think this year more then any in recent memory that has to be the case.

  36. By DKM on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    oh shoot i miss speeled GIL BRAND(T) again …… and again.
    Well it turns out Manning had a 4th neck surgery. For those still thinking it would be a wise idea to bring him in NOT GOOD. Who knows what else is going on with him. BAGGAGE.
    At this point i rather have someone come in and challenge MS for his Job or go down with him.

  37. By DKM on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    JFS64 glad too see you back with vengance, always a plessure to have your input.

  38. By DKM on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    All the usual suspects are mentioned in this article, just like always non of it matters until we see what happens in FA. Watched Tapes and Clips on Ingram and Upshaw was impressed with Ingram being the better fit for what Rex does on Defense. That doesnt mean Upshaw wouldnt fit just personel prefference. Was impressed by Barron (Ed Reed Type S) not saying he is the next Ed Reed, but just like some other guys on this Site, the medical History scarry, and we just dont need a another Egg.
    Kevin like DeCastro a lot, ill be suprised if he still there come 16.
    Oh, did i open with same line as scjoe, well learning from the Best. So Keller wasnt a security Blanket what was he than, unreliable, just saying.

  39. By Chicago Bob on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    Hopefully we are all in agreement to get someone who can rush the QB – whether or not that player is available at #16 is another story however if not, even though people are crying for help at QB, WR and Safety, do the smart thing and take (if he is available) DeCastro from Stanford. This kid (as a junior) is being touted by all the scouting reports as being just as good (if not better) than Steve Hutchinson who has been All-World and will someday have a bust in Canton. You cannot pass up a talent like that. If New England, Pittsburgh and Baltimore were in that position, they would obviously take the best player available and that would be Decastro – having him next to Mangold for the next 8 years would be devastating for opposing defenses.

  40. By CHARLIEJ89 on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    WE NEED A LOT OF PARTS
    THE LIST I HAVE IN ORDER OF IMPORTANCE:
    1. PASS RUSHING DE/OLB
    2. SAFETY WHO CAN COVER A TE
    3. RIGHT TACKLE
    4. SPEED RB
    5. DEEP THREAT WR

    DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT GET PEYTON–DONT KNOW IF HE IS SAME
    HE WOULD BLOW UP THE CAP

    AS LONG AS WE RUN, RUN, RUN, THE BALL SANCHEZ WILL BE A WHOLE LOT BETTER

  41. By DKM on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    Some of you guys want like this but what the heck here is my point of View on the whole Love Triangle thats at least what they call it here in NYC.
    Good for MS if he is mingeling with Kate Upshaw boy is she smoking,99.9% of us wouldnt mind to mingel with her (JFS64 that only can work in your Favor if he doesnt get his Head straight on maybe he doesnt even make to TC in Cortland).
    And as for Holmes, you might as well patch it up anyway you can Valentines Day, Labor Day, Memorial Day or every Day whatever works cause both will be here no matter what.

  42. By DKM on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    Ira seen the short on NFL.com about the top 10 undraftet Players, very interesting, just confirms what a gamble the Draft can be. By the way dont agree with the Order they in, but i think that wasnt there intensions anyway.

  43. By DKM on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    Karan i think Hillis is FA and a Headache dont now about him had his Problems with the Browns but than again who doesnt.

  44. By DKM on Feb 15, 2012 | Reply

    oooopppsss…. did i say Kate Upshaw sorry my bat, Kate Upton. i hope some people want have a seizure.

  45. By DKM on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    re russ, ok i understand what you mean and get where you coming from but you still have to find a Trading Partner for that. Giving the fact that you have to give up lot to go from the second into the first and top it off with other high picks from the later rounds or even players i dont think somebody is willing to do that. At 16 its hard to move another 17 down to go to the 2nd round. More likely we move back 4 or 5, if the guy they want is still there, swap first rounders and pick up another low Pick somewhere in the later rounds from our trading partner just to even it out.

  46. By DKM on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe, here is a stat that might interest you or maybe not The TOP 5 running backs in the last Season NONE of them was Draftet in the first 52 Picks, good luck with Richardsen (if hes there at 16).
    It looks better for DE 4 of 5 where picked in the first Round. Just saying. Hey sc is all in fun.

  47. By IRA on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    No reason to speculate now until we see who they p/u in free agency. We all know they have many needs. Once the smoke clears late March we can all have a better feel in what direction they go. Still feel they can’t go wrong taking the best available player at 16 and thats if they stay there. Its time to accumulate some extra picks and if nobody is at 16 then they MUST trade down. Don’t like taking safeties early and i would think they have a good feel on Iloka since they saw him play when they were scouting Wilson. I wouldn’t be surprised if they select IIoka in the 3rd rd.
    Still think they need to go after Super Mario.

  48. By Bennett on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    If Barron has a testicular double hernia this is not chronic and does not require rehab ( I had the same thing ) once cleared in 6-8 weeks he is good to go 100% Todays mesh type surgery to repair actually makes it stronger and it rarely happens again. The timing is terrible for this kid but great for the team that drafts him. When he falls to the latter rounds as expected the Jets should grab him

  49. By Tom Spicer on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    Tom 64, Read the above story it says the Jets averaged 3.8 yards per carry in the run game.

  50. By Tom Spicer on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    This is also from above “The Jets averaged 3.8 yards a carry in the running game and gave up 40 sacks this season, meaning changes are coming on the offensive line.” Yea but the O line was great this year they did a good job block for the backs & the QB LOL

  51. By hawk on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    This team needs to stop this free agency nonsense. If one looks at teams like the Packers, Steelers, and yes the Giants, those teams draft three years in adavance anticipating their upcoming free agents and stock piling talent. Tannenbaum and Ryan must stop the fee agent love affair, wasting money, depleting talent, destroying chemistry. Stop trading away second and third round draft picks. Look at the Giants, they signed free agents that didn’t cost them gold mines (Rolle, Boley, and Baas) and all these guys are team guys. The difference here is Reese is a smart GM, he is a better talent evaluator and a true team builder. while Mike just wants to make headlines. Lets not even start on the ownsership that is a whole other pandora’s box

  52. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    Thanks for those prospects, GaryC, I’ll keep them in mind and yeah, DKM, I’ll try to keep up despite the price of gasoline going thru the roof again out here. I agree about Peyton, this 4th neck thing and the way they covered it up does not bode well, I’d just forget it, see who we can pick up to push Sanchez (still like Campbell), and rethink the QB situation in 2013. I like the sound of Woody maybe selling the team, too, if he’s not gonna get serious re GM, HC, players, and the SB. Don’t think it’s worth drafting a RB high when we got RBs we haven’t tried and there’s plenty of them in FA. S, OLB, OL, DL, WR (any other Denarius Moore-like #5’s out there?), S, OLB or OL, and maybe RB or whatever for #8 is how I’d go, if we have 8 that is.

  53. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    Ira, you may have to change with the times when it comes to drafting S early, late, or anywhere. To go into yet another season with what we got at that position would be beyond insanity. I’d offer Leonhard a minimum deal with an eye toward cutting him if he can’t play, ask Smith to take less of that ridiculously generous contract Mr T gave him, see if Pool can play well enough to earn a spot as a solid back-up and part-time starter, and look to start 2 new guys at S, maybe a high draft choice and a vet that we pick up. And no, I’m not too optimistic about Tracy Wilson despite his allegedly being “one of the hardest workers on this team,” as Rex said when we so mysteriously (and so foolishly, we invested 2 yrs in the guy) cut Cook.

  54. By Allan O'Dane on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    Ira, good point on waiting to see what we do via FA. There are some spots that can be quickly addressed. If the Jets can re-do some contracts (which they will) get rid of some players (which they will), They should be able to get some cap room. To address some issues right away:

    S: LeRon Landry / I think some people forgot about him
    LB: Mario williams / Jarret Johnson / Leron Mclain
    DE: Jarred Allen / Mathis / Freeney
    RB: Lynch / Hillis
    OL: Gaithers
    So there are players that can help right away. Use the draft to pick the BEST player

  55. By Allan O'Dane on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    AkaBigD, The Bravado needs to backed up…We don’t have the Patrick Willis’s or the T.Suggs type of players that can go out and smack people around. That was my biggest problem with Rex..this is not his Ravens of old. You want to talk big, brash, pop junk…you better have the players to back that up. He put a BIG X on his players. That’s all I’m sayin. Scjoe, The Ravens want Vontaze Burfict really bad..they say he has a little character issues but he is one mean nasty player who they want to replace Lewis..Jets need to do their homework with this kid..

  56. By Tom Spicer on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    Jorge, We have the regular 7 picks whatever we get for Lowery we lose in a trade to the Packers for 1 of our backup lineman we got. I forgot his name & we get nothing for Stone hands Mason the Texans cut him.

  57. By Frank on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    Ira I am with you 100%…if they can somehow find the money they need to go after Mario if not they need to start picking THE BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE regardless of position when they draft that is what the Giants do and is one of the reasons they have so many stud D-Lineman which is a major reason the won two championships. If a player is not there trade back and get more picks just like the Pats.
    No use speculating the draft until afer FA and see what trades they come up with.

  58. By Tom Spicer on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    The Jets need to hit on 4 players & they can be a real contender for the Super Bowl. They need 1 a pass rushing OLB 2 Saftey 3 WR & 4 either a RB or a RT. This can be done get 2 or 3 of those in free agency & get 1 or 2 in the draft we are ready to role. Everyone knows we need a pass rusher & a saftey that is not rocket science. But we need a WR NO way Plax comes back & we need either a STUD RB a dynamic guy who if there is a big hole can take it the distance a guy tams have to game plan for OR a better RT we need better blocking for Mark & Greene.

  59. By Tom Spicer on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    Mangold & Moore were hurt last year. Slauson is good & Brick even thou he had a down year he had 5 good years before that so I know he will bounce back. Really all we have to do is replace Hunter & this O line is ready to ROLL.

  60. By GaryC on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    dwight lowery is a free agent so what compensation are the jets getting or is it based on if jacksonville resigns him.yeah, so they will get a sixth rounder if he resigns or jets will get a seventh rounder if he doesn’t.Looks to me like the jets have been taken to the wood shed again with this crackerjack front office.A front office with so little regard to it’s draft picks that you just discard with no rhyme or reason leads you to where the jets are today.

  61. By Tom Spicer on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    1 Last year Cumberand got hurt he was playing really well up until the Raider game where he had a season ending injury. His replacement Mulligan is terrible so that is 1 upgrade he will be back this year. 2 I would start Turner at LG & move Slauson to RT. Slauson has played the spot before & he can not possibly be worse than Hunter. Ducasse will be the backup guard & Hunter the back up tackle. Right there we improved 2 spots without using a draft pick or spending any money to go out & get a player in free agency.

  62. By Jack on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    Tell you what if the Jets do trade down with I don’t think they will. I would trade down with SD, Jets get the 18th pick SD, get the 16th pick SD, looking to get a OLB Melvin Ingram then I would take S, Mark Barron with the 18th pick. But you will need to watch for Cincinnati they are looking to get a CB, but they just might take Barron with the 17th pick. Then that will leave Jets with WR, Kendall Wright, TE, Coby Fleener, DE, Nick Perry OLB, Courtney Upshaw WR, Alshon Jeffery and G Daivd DeCastro. I think will go with either Upshaw or Perry. Then with the 2 picks in the 2nd Rds I would take S, Markelle Martin or S George IIoka & with the 2nd pick RB, LeMichael James or OLB,Whitney Mercilus or RB, Lamar Miller.

  63. By Tom Spicer on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    Following the above plan get a WR in free agency (a really good 1). Draft Upshaw or Ingram in the 1st round. 2nd round draft the best RB out there (RB dont tend to go as high as they used to I can see us getting a Miller or a Wilson with our 2nd round pick) 3rd & 4th round take the 2 best Safteys out there & LETS GO WIN THE GOD DAM SUPER BOWL! This can be done by simply siging our 2 free agents Pouha & Turner & 1 none Jet WR a STUD 1.

  64. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    I submit this quote from Rex’s press conference as evidence — embarrassingly ample evidence, actually — that he has neither the wisdom nor the maturity to be a good HC. Asked about his endless SB predictions, he ACTUALLY SAID, “I thought we’d do it overnight, I always believed we had the best team. I’ve been convinced otherwise the last 3 years.” Well, out here in the real world, NOTHING happens overnight, but especially not winning the big game in one of the most mentally, physically, and financially challenging sports there is. Put this one next to his talk of coaching for 10 yrs with “Mark as the starter,” “If it was up to me [IT IS UP TO YOU, YOU'RE THE HC!], I’d just run the ball,” and more and this guy adds up to one huge mistake.

  65. By wayne on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe, they better get it right. I think they’ve boxed themselves in a bit going last FA with that CB and it’s a huge amount of catching up to do….They spend too much time dillydallying some of their own very important guys could walk……………..Kevin65fan, Sparano will tow the company line. Whatever that may be……..I do agree with you that this is not the way this QB gains Holmes’s respect or that of his teammates. His decision making about EVERYTHING public has always been a big question mark for me…….He’s also hyper sensitive to the media. I’ve heard this sort of thing joked about in media about a week. So instead of taking his own approach to it, he bites……You wouldn’t(better not) even do this in high school.

  66. By steven on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    Wish List:
    RB: Trent Richardson, Chris Polk 224:bs 4.4 forty, D Scott 240lbs 4.4 forty
    DE: Coples, Melvin Ingram, Upshaw or Perry
    DL: Poe
    WR: Floyd, Jeffrey, Hill, or Streeter
    TE Coby Fleener, Andrew Jones or 6’7 Hayden Smith
    Safety: Kelcie McCray 6’2 4.4 forty

  67. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    Hey, since we’re all so thrilled with Curtis Martin, why hasn’t anyone suggested that he head an investor group put together expressly to buy the team from Woody? That would at once be historic for the NFL, for African-Americans, and not least of all for the Jets organization, which then might finally figure out how to draft, develop, sign, and keep the kind of players you need to build a dynasty. I sure can’t picture tough-as-nails Curtis making excuses for a QB whose only response to an end-of-the-year collapse is to send his disgruntled WR heart-shaped shortcakes and a cutesy Valentine’s Day message…

  68. By Allan O'Dane on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer, I agree 100% on the O-line..I have been saying that in a few posts already. We have what we need right now to fix the O-line Vlad & Hunter are strickly back-ups. Put Turner and Slauson on the right side of the line and we are good to go. Save the money and get the pressing needs…S, OLB,DE,WR and RB

  69. By Bennett on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer It doesn’t really help if we get 2-3 in free agency and they are little or no better than what we had we have to have quality and we will have to pay for it and the way it sounds with the cap it will be a problem. With all the needs this team has you have to point the finger at T-baum no way it should have come down to this. We need a Football guy not a bean counter. I think with everything we need one if not the most important is a very good WR. Without Plax and the struggles of the QB last year a very big hole needs to be filled and good is going to be expensive for a Free Agent. Please… please… no Moss

  70. By scjoe on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    Alan O’ I think Burfict would be a bit of a gamble, but on the other hand most of the draft is nothing but a gamble. But can you imagine Burfict in the middle along side of Harris? If this kid has his head on straight and keeps it there he has a huge upside.Problem is he can also have a huge downside.

  71. By scjoe on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    DKM, my 6 year old granddaughter may need a security blanket. I didn’t think an NFL QB needed one as well. As for your “source” and your mentor, 85 year old Gil Brand? The typo was not my point, the fact that you learned everything you know about pro football from him but don’t even know how to spell his name is more my point. And in the future try not to use the exact same lines and content that I do. Why not see what Gil Brand has to say on the subject and quote him instead?

  72. By scjoe on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    64, you are right, there are RBs in free agency, but are any of them any better then what we have on the roster now? I think talking about Richardson is a moot point because he will be long gone, but if by some miracle he does slip and the Jets select him you will see a much different and a much better offense from day 1. An actual RB who can get around the corner and between the tackles, he will make an immediate impact, what is wrong with any of that? Aside from a OLB who ends up with double digit sacks in year 1, no other rook will make an impact like Richardson or even Lamar Miller.

  73. By robertpapalia on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    Frankie what is it you don`t understand. Barron will not be able to play until August. A player learning a position like safety needs more than a couple of weeks to get ready to play an NFL season. Like I said before the Jets better n ot screw this one up.

  74. By IRA on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    Tom, I can almost guarantee you they will sign a starting caliber safety in free agency and also draft one by the 4th rd. Otherwise they can’t compete with the Pats. I don’t care whoever spins it any way they have no one who can cover those TE’s except Revis and you can take it to the bank the Pats will get a WR to be a deep threat this year.

  75. By Russell on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    Come on NFL Free Agency. I believe the Jets biggest needs are a pass rushing linebacker, safety and of course a right tackle. Did anyone or everyone notice that DB Dwight Lowery is an unrestricted free agent. You have to love that trade, lol. First, Jets need to resign NT Pouha, which I think they will. Second, two pass rushers come to mind, Avril of Detroit and Spencer of Dallas. Do we need a right tackle, how about either Gaither of San Diego or Bell from Buffalo. Sateties, Branch of Oakland, Goldson of San Francisco, Lowery from Jacksonville, Nelson from Cincinnati or Griffin from Tennessee. To IRA, you’re right, Upshaw won’t get past Buffalo at # 10. Give me either DE/OLB Ingram or OT Glenn.

  76. By DKM on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    Yes, Yes, Yes, Ira couldnt agree more with you S in 1st Round is not my favorite, you can certainly pick up Value there, in the later Rounds. Wich brings me to ChicagoBob, im a huge DeCastro Fan and just finishing watching highlights of him, oh boy what a talent.
    You want a pick wich gives you some sort of security, that guy will be it. Now that being said so more People start studying him incl. the combine i believe he is going to be of the Board before he comes to us at 16th.
    I know Kalil and Reiff are ratet a little higher then him but lets wait till we get to the combine i think he will turn a lot of Heads more if he didnt allready. And remember Miami too needs a OT in the worst way.

  77. By DKM on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    On Super Mario, would love to have him here, but if the Texans would put a FT on him it would cost them 22 Mill. to retain his services, that being said he knows his value so even if he go’s out and looks for a Long Term deal, and lets say he gives you break, than its 20 mill a year im not so sure if can shell out that kind of Money.
    I think we could do that, but that would be the only thing we would do in FA.

  78. By DKM on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Sal why not ask the Pats for Ochostinko, lets say for a 2nd rounder, and sign TO, beside bringing in Moss and resigning Burress and lets trade Kerley for 2nd rounder, Holmes for a 1st rounder and Turner maybe for a 1st rounder next year, that would settle our WR problems for many years to come and helps MS tremendously.
    I like that, SB, 2 years in a row awesome.

  79. By DKM on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    Listen JFS64 ive seen the Article it wasnt as bad as you make it out to be, at least he is not babbeling about any upcomming SB predictions. He knew he blew it the last 3 years. Come on hes got a right to selfasses himself. Maybe he is learning something from it. Didnt Coughlin do the same.
    Funny how Cimini keeps on pocking him about Payton.

  80. By DKM on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer how about this scenario, lets say we move Slauson to the right have Turner play left with, Hunter being the Backup, and 3 games into the Season, Slauson gets hurt (season endind injury, i hope not), and we past on any of the 3 big OT’s in the Draft, than what, we back to Square one, Hunter playing on the line fulltime. Good luck with that.
    Same mistake and you schould be fired for it. Thats not adressing the Problem thats being dum.
    A smart FO goes out and will find a OT somewhere, who can start.

  81. By Allan O'Dane on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    Just Read that Slauson had surgery on his right shoulder torn labrum, biceps and rotor cuff out 5-6 mos. rehab. Well…Gotta get a O-line man now…Gaithers was availble during the season, he went to SD and played great. Don’t know if he is a UFA

  82. By Tom Spicer on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    This is a quote from Bill a few posts back that is exactly right. “Jets need better all around right tackle, number 1. Put Hunter at guard or back-up lineman. Hunter was exposed in the Steeler AFC Champ. game and his pass blocking problems on the outside continued throughout last season. #2, upgrade somehow at safty and DE/OLB. #3 Give Sanchez one more year. #4, find competant RB to share load with Green and McNight. Re-sign B. Edwards at WR to replace Plax.. Bottom line: I think Sanchez can be good if he has better pass blocking. Concentrate on shoring up pass protection”

  83. By russ on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    Question for all….Does Wilkerson have the desire and bility to make it to the pro bowl? is he determined enough to become a stalwart at his position.? his improvement along with another pressing DE could make all the difference in helping sceondary…the more time qb has to scan field the less likely any one can cover let alone a wasted pick on a safety at #!1..

  84. By Tom Spicer on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    I go this off of a site I read “League sources tell NFL.com Raiders OLB Kamerion Wimbley is “not interested” in taking a pay-cut to remain with the Raiders in 2012. That stance could make Wimbley a free agent, as he’s currently set to earn an eye-popping $11 million. Wimbley was one of the league’s top pass rushers in 2011, however, grading out as Pro Football Focus’ No. 1 4-3 outside linebacker. ” I read that if they dont cut him by Friday 2/17 his contract is guarenteed. IF THEY CUT THIS GUY WE NEED TO GET HIM !

  85. By Jimmer on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    These so called experts must be thinking of needs of some other team. RB’s & WR’s????
    Sure they covered the S position. But to completely miss RT is some kind of joke. Why have WR’s if Sanchez is on his tuckus before they can get open? Sure a guard would be nice. But not in the 1st RD. If there is a can’t miss pass rusher that can do more than pass rush, I can see that. But then 2nd rd is a must RT pick, leaving ST a must in the 3rd.
    You can’t pass, nor run the ball on offense without good OL.

  86. By JetLee on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    Question: How many passes did Mark Sanchez have knocked down this season? Last season?

  87. By NC on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    The offense was horrible last year. Draft offense (the league’s all about offense now anyway) and leave the defense to late rounds/free agency.

    Get Richardson in round 1 if you can (he’s a running back/offensive lineman in one). Get Fleener in round 2. He’s big, fast, can block, and another two-for-one player in that the Jets can play him and Keller at the same time and run or pass effectively.

  88. By DKM on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe, listen, qoutes from other people is not what i do that i leave up to you, that wouldnt be forming my own opinion would it, and let me assure you anybody listening to you talking about 3-4, 4-3 or the Jets sometimes needs a security Blanket not just your granddaughter.

  89. By DKM on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    I swear i must be seeing Ghosts cause if you go to NFL.com under the NEWS TAP scroll to the Headline Sections Lefthand side there is a Picture of Payton in a number 18 Jets Uniform cause the Helmet for sure is not a Colts one.
    Anybody seen that. I hope this is not a bad omen. Just a observation.

  90. By DKM on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    ITs getting better and better, now Slauson, you absolutly have to revamp the OL in FA or the Draft. If it comes down to you need to consider a Guard and Tackle both with starting potential.

  91. By MIKE on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    Jets needs:
    1) OLB/DE Can’t see them addressing that in FA. Outside of Mario Williams know body would make a huge upgrade over Pace, Maybin and THomas.

    2) RT Unless Jets plan on bandade solution which probably will happen, know real good Tackles available in FA. Gaither, McKennzie, Starks.

    3) S Barron would be a major reach at 16. Laundry might be available but is coming off an injury and plays more of a SS role, not the ball hawk we need. Like to see Lowery back or take a S in 3rd round.

    4) LB Here some speculation that BArt Scott might be out. If that’s the case not sure Jets have a plan in line to replace him although I never thought Scott was that great.

  92. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Feb 16, 2012 | Reply

    Tolbert’s shown flashes of brilliance, scjoe, I wouldn’t break the bank for him but he might be a good FA pickup but again, I wanna see what McKnight, Conner, and Powell can do, especially since at least 2 of them were Rex picks. DKM, I’ll agree to disagree with you on Rex, the guy’s over-emotional and under-analytical and I don’t see him ever becoming a great HC. You talk about him like he’s a 25-yr-old asst instead of a 50-yr-old HC. Ira, I hope you’re right about S but now we have a new problem with the seriousness of Slauson’s injury which, like with Brady and Gronk’s injuries, might explain some weak perfs toward yr’s end. Russ, the Jets are way behind the new NFL thinking at S so a #1 for the right guy at S would in fact be progress.

  93. By Karan on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    We need Lowery back, great player and provides much needed depth. Our O-lineman are good besides from Wayne Hunter who should really go back to his 2010 role as a back-up. The O-line as a whole had a bad year, injuries were a factor too. Mangold = best center in the NFL, Moore = one of the best guards and the most underrated guard in the NFL, Brick = top 3 tackle in the NFL, just had a bad season in 2011, he will rebound, Slauson = he’s a pretty good player, he’s on his way so worries about him. Rob Turner = great versatile back-up G/C (the jets will be crazy not to re-sign him), Wayne Hunter = good as a back-up ONLY, we need to draft a good Tackle and add more good O-lineman, and please get rid of Ducasse, wat a horrible player he is

  94. By Karan on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    *no worries

  95. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    I agree, Spice, 3.8 isn’t enough in the running game. But now with Slauson’s injury, there’s absolutely no mistaking that we have to get serious on OL, and without Callahan. I don’t see how the first 3 picks can be anything but OL, S, and OLB, in whatever order. If Ellis gets deported, that’ll be another problem so DL has to figure in there quickly too as well as WR. Maybe some of this can be done thru FA but I don’t see too many players, much less the great or expensive ones, rushing to Florham Park, especially O guys given our cutesy, mediocre QB. Somehow I can’t quite picture Brady sending Valentine’s Day cookies to Welker or Ben R asking Wallace if he’ll be his Valentine…

  96. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    Hey scjoe, I just looked at the full list of FAs and of the younger, less expensive RBs, the 3 I like the most are Battle, Blount, and Tolbert, 4-yr guys except for Blount who’s 2-yrs. Of course, knowing Rex he’ll get excited about FB Fiammetta, thinking it’s still the 1950s. And just for GaryC, I’ll add that I certainly wouldn’t object if we were to go after Finley at TE, but he’s not likely to come cheap.

  97. By IRA on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    Allan, Don’t be surprised if they sign V. Carey. Sparano is going to bring in a few of his guys and carey would be an excellent free agency signing. He could replace Slauson or Hunter with no problem. Very versatile and would be a key p/u.

  98. By uncle joe on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    No way Barron gets past NE. What is the big deal with a hernia anyway? He would miss a tiny portion of workouts? He comes from a pretty complex 3-4 system where he played at a high level and they say he has a very high football IQ so he is probably ahead of any other Safety we would draft from the jump.

  99. By uncle joe on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    Can’t miss on this draft and I’m not sold on Upshaw. Don’t watch his Highlights. Watch Barron’s highlights but focus on Upshaw in the video. To me he picks his time to go fast, resting between plays. Once the play is a little past him he gives up. We need relentless. Would love to move up in second round and get Curry.

  100. By Noah17 on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    Right Tackle!!! I don’t honestly know if there will be a good one when the Jets pick (who does) but, that would solve a lot of problems.

    It could improve pass protection and, running the ball. That means the defense is on the field less and, IMO makes the linebacker and, safety picks come 3rd and, 2nd In order of importance. Sanchez may or, may not have regressed….How can you tell? He was either on his back or, running for his life all season. He made a bunch of mistakes but, he also significantly improved the number of touchdowns this year passing and, running.

  101. By Dr. Frank Falcone, Jr. on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    I think that the reason the the Jets drafts have been so poor over the years is that they draft strictly based on their needs. I think a better policy would be to draft the best player available regardless of their positions and then fill the voids with free agency, undrafted players or trades. That way you get better value out of your draft. Also, they have not managed the draft well, meaning, if they don’t feel that a player that they want is worth the draft position that they are at they should trade the pick and get additional picks. Again, this would increase the value of their drafted players. Also, they have a habit of getting rid of many of their high draft picks for “stupid” reasons, e.g.- Vilma, Farrior, Abraham, etc…..

  102. By dave on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    We need to sign the best RT available in free agency. Period. RANDY, who do you think the best available RTs are? I also think we should look for TE depth in Free Agency. Then we can be free to Draft at OLB and Safety. I think Maybin and Westerman have much better upsides than Hunter. If we need to let someone develop before throwing him right into the fire, it should be a guy behind Maybin and Westerman, not behind Hunter. Let Hunter go back to being the best backup tackle in football, as rex likes to say.

  103. By Allan O'Dane on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    Uncle joe…see Vontaze Burfcit from AZ..Ravens want him badly..Landry from Redskins and Goldson from SF are available..good ball hawking hard hitting safeties..But we still need to draft the best player at #16. I really thought the jets were going to get Gaithers last year he was just sitting there on waivers…Ira, I’ll have to watch some highlights on this guy V.Carey don’t know much about him. Scjoe, I’m telling you the more I see highlights on Vontaze the more I want to see him in green&white this kid next to Harris….SCARY!!!!

  104. By ROY23 on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    WE CAN NOT AFFORD M.WILLIAMS TOP 5 MONEY!!! AND HILLIS COMPLAINED OVER CONTRACT. HE OUT PLAYED HIS BARELY ABOVE L.MIN. LAST SEASON.(2010) THIS YR. HAD H.STRING PROBLEMS… NOT SAYING GO AFTER HIM—SOMEONE SAID HE WAS A TROUBLE MAKER THAT WASN’T THE CASE AT ALL…AND WAY 2 MANY WR IN FREE AGENCY. PASS RUSHER OL OR RB….

  105. By Tom Spicer on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    DKM, My proposal is not what I want but I am trying to do something that is realisitc. Which what I think what I proposed is us signing just 1 free agent total. This is not fantasy football or madden with Slauson out for 6 months we need a LG, RT, RB, WR, OLB & Saftey we are not getting all of this in free agency it is not possible. What is your proposal O guru of football?

  106. By scjoe on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    Randy, for the benefit of those who feel the Jets are in dire straights regarding the salary cap, correct me if I am wrong, but wasn’t there a clause in the CBA a couple of years ago whereby a team can carry over unused cap money from one year to another? That being correct, the Jets should have over ten million in unused cap space for the 2010 season. In unison with cuts, and contract renegotiations I think they will be just fine.

  107. By Randy Lange on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe, I have seen reports on the clause in the new CBA regarding the carryover of unused cap space from one year to the next. As to how that affects the Jets’ cap situation, it’s not something I can comment on but beat reporters and columnists will be offering up sources speculating on the Jets’ cap as the March 13 start to the free agency signing period approaches.

  108. By scjoe on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    64, none of those FA RBs you mentioned will be an upgrade to what we already have on the roster. People always say (and I laugh about it) that RBs can be found in the later rounds. Sure they can, the same quality that we already have (Powell?) This team, as it stands right now, needs a top quality RB (and I will not use the term elite) because of the other shortcomings on the offensive side of the ball. That ingredient more then any other, all things considered, would upgrade the performance of this offense almost immediately.

  109. By scjoe on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    Alan O’ I think one reason you will not see the Jets go with Burfict at 16 (if he is still there) is the “Gholston factor” I really don’t see them taking that risk that I believe this kid is, at 16 knowing that possibility exists. Can you imagine the pressure on Mr T should they select him and he don’t fulfill all that potential? This year especially when there are so many needs? If it were talent alone, and this kid has it, I think he would be a favorite. That is my opinion anyway.

  110. By DKM on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    Spice i know what you where writing, but you also said in your past post that this would save us either a signing or a Draft Pick, please im not by any means a O guru, but now that we have (we need to see) possibly problems with Slauson well you have no excusse as a FO to go out and get help on the OL specially what happen after last year.
    You right on the help we need but if you seen my post i said from the beginning that we cant fix this team in 1 offseason it takes at least 2 Fa’s and 2 Draft’s.
    Neither do i play Madden or Fantasy Football or build my Jets on it, hold your horses there big guy.

  111. By DKM on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    JFS64 i had a morning Sleep to think about it, as you know im not as much down on Rex as you are, but remember when Woody brought in Rex to revitalize the whole Jets Org. and it somewhat worked for a little while, and than last year happen, well if it doesnt work this coming Season (im still willing to give all 3 the chance to right the ship), i know this is somthing you dont wanna hear anymore JFS, then you and me should absolutly start lobbying for Curtis M. to become the next Owner.
    I’ve met him a couple of times in my Restaurant a very smart Business and Football guy.

  112. By GaryC on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    all the college draftees look good on film,the agents wouldn’t have it any other way.Jet fan Tom,even though I like Finlay he does have a case of the drops,so not to sure about him,and like I once said about Holmes,guys who come from winning organizations you never know how they react to losing.Finlay has known nothing but success at Texas and Green Bay.

  113. By kleckofan on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    I know I’m late to the discussion…scjoe- Poe is no secret anymore, he’s the front page of ESPN’s Draft section, Ingram and Melvin are not what I want in a pass rusher, too short&short armed I want tall, lean athletic (JP Paul, Umenyiora, Orakpo, JJ Watt etc) I think the same for Barron, better SS. What’s up w Slauson? Even before knowing that my bet is on DeCastro, start form the trenches. Don’t like shifting OL, why have new players at multiple positions? If we go OLB/DE I like Burfict, yes a loose cannon, but I’ve seen a lot of him on the West Coast, he has the motor and attitude we are missing. Not to say I told you so….Peyton never was an option. We need to stop trying to hit a homerun w every move and load the bases w singles

  114. By DKM on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe under the new CBA teams have the opportunity to carry over unused Salary Money from the expired business year wich in case of the jets was roughly 8.5 Mill., however the owner needs to apply for that to happen on the begining of the new business year. If the Jets do that and i dont see why Woody wouldnt, with the existing FA’s and the current signed ones and NO redone Contracts, we are currently roughly half a Mill. under the Cap. Not this year but i believe starting next season or even 2014 Teams need to comply with a minimumcap wich would be around 96% of the Salarycap so the carry over will go away at some point. I think the minimum for this year is 85%.

  115. By GaryC on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    Look I believe Leonard Davis, who was cut by the cowboys is still unsigned, this crackerjack jet front office hasn’t called him yet with the uncertainty of Slauson,give me a break.MAYBE THEY ARE TRYING TO FIGURE HOW TO GET PLASTICO UNDER THE SALARY CAP.TELL HIM TO GIVE BACK A MILLION FOR WHAT HE SIGNED FOR.

  116. By GaryC on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    Kleckofan, you are right about ingram and upshaw, not the prototypical rush linebackers, neither one will be von miller, that being said that is why I keep bringing up Brockers of LSU,has just tapped his potential, like JPP did with the giants who emerged in one year,time for more talent on that defensive front wall.

  117. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    An upgrade over Greene or an upgrade over our other 3 largely unused RBs, scjoe? Either way, we need at least 2 “top quality” RBs, so I’d consider Battle, Blount, and Tolbert. DKM, I’ll agree on Martin and an investor group as a good possibility if Woody decides to sell the team anytime soon. Somehow I can’t picture a competitor as tough as Curtis Martin sending shortcake to anyone instead of standing up as a leader, especially from the owner’s box. Agree about the players and the tape, GaryC, and this yr we’d better watch those tapes real carefully before we pick.

  118. By Tom Spicer on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    Slauson had a torn labrum, rotator cuff & bicep muscle. Which he said he got in the Pats playoff game from last year & played thru it this whole year. He said it got worse & worse as the year went on. So now Slauson with the above injurys, Mangold with a high ankle sprain & Moore with hip surgery all of them were playing limited to put it mildy. Plus the fact that Hunter is just BAD is it safe to say that your QB will play bad if 60% of his O line was hurt for most if not all of the year. His LT had a career worst year & his RT should not start for any team inthe NFL YEA I THINK IT IS SAFE TO SAY IT WILL HURT YOUR QB!

  119. By Tom Spicer on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    To all the guys who want Vontaze Burfcit we will not be taking him unless he falls to the middle of the 2nd round or we switch to a different type of base D. Harris is 1 MLB & Scott took a pay cut last year for us in doing that we guaranteed his $4,000,000 salary for this year. Harris & Scott we be our MLB’S this year no matter what.

  120. By scjoe on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    Kleckofan, you are right, Poe is no longer flying under the radar. I believe if the Jets resign Pouha, which is a priority, Poe will become a moot point. But if they do not resign him, and if Ellis legal problems are not resolved, don’t be to surprised to see Poe’s name called. I think the fact that there is not a whole lot behind Poe in this draft for prototypical 3-4 NTs will factor in to that. People talk about the Jets priorities in this draft, but who will be the NT if Pouha and Ellis are not on the roster? The NT in a 3-4 is THEE most important element. That said, there is no guarantee Poe will turn out to be the next Jenkins, but that position is a need under the above scenario.

  121. By scjoe on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    DKM, I don’t believe the terminology on that cap balance refers to the “expired” business year. I am sure it means that any cap balance from ANY year since the clause was initiated can be used in ANY year providing the team apply s for it at the start of the next business year, that being 2012, and the cap balance being from 2010 and not used in 2011. And as you stated, I am certain it has been applied for, at least I hope it was.

  122. By scjoe on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    64, a top quality RB should be one that can come in as a rook and contribute immediately like a Peterson. McKnight was taken in the 3rd round I believe and Powell in the 4th. McKnight was given a little bit of an opportunity and Powell hardly none, but that is due in part to what they show in practice, among other factors (ball security) Point being, an “elite” RB should be one that stands out immediately, it shouldn’t take one full season and in the case of McKnight two full seasons, and of course we know what we have in Greene. I think all of the above are capable #2s, This team desperately needs that #1

  123. By scjoe on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    kleckofan, Alan O’ and I have spoken often about Burfict, he is a perfect example of a “risk reward” selection. He can be great, or he can be sitting at home watching, strictly because of his character issues. I am not sure the Jets would take that risk. As for Slauson and a switch to RT, he has played and had plenty of reps at that position, so taking DeCastro at 16 if he is there, and plugging him in at LG would be ultra safe and upgrade the O line big time.

  124. By scjoe on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    GaryC, just out of curiosity, you said in an earlier post you can foresee Richardson as a potential bust, like Blair Thomas. What do you attribute that to? I have seen a few Bama games this past season and in all he has looked pretty solid. It looks like he has everything needed to be a top quality RB.

  125. By GaryC on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    if the jets screw up this draft, it is time to give Paulie and the cannolis a reprieve,and have clemenza load the caddy with the jets scouting dept.

  126. By westcoastJET28 on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    Well, things changed drastically with the whole Slauson thing. We definately need to try and pick up day one starters in FA and/or Draft, for both the RT and now LG. Tanny, is gonna have his work cut out for him with this salary cap issue we have. It’s gonna be tough trying to go after any big name available in FA. If we make a move at all, we should go after at least 2 to 3 of these guys.

    RT: Jared gaithers, Demetrius Bell, Jeff Backus, Kareem McKenzie, or Barry Richardson
    G: Carl Nicks, Ben Grubbs, Evan Mathis, Mike Brisiel, Kraig Urbik, or Vernon Carey
    DE: Jeremy Mincey, Anthony Spencer
    OLB: Jerrett Johnson, Ahmad Brooks, Erin Henderson, or Kamerion Wimbley
    S: Reggie Nelson, Michael Griffin, Thomas Decoud, or Dashon Goldson

  127. By westcoastJET28 on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    Bleach Report speculated on possible trade scenarios and one that I thought was almost impossible to pass by was to trade Santonio Holmes for Darren McFadden. With both Run DMC and Greene in the back field we would be a dominate force or power and speed. Oakland has a huge Cap problem and we could help alliviate that by taking Run DMC and get rid of our hedache of a WR, plus we could free up some money for ourselves. Another posibble scenario was to trade SH for Taylor Mays & a 3rd round pick. I don’t necessarily agree with this one but, we could use the extra pick, save cash and fill the void at Saftey.

  128. By Vince-Florida on Feb 17, 2012 | Reply

    Good work, Andrew LeRay!
    I’m in a Moneyball mood tonight so I’ll say that some FACTORS are more important than others:
    1. Jimmy Johnson drafted for SPEED when he was at Dallas;
    2. Tony Sparano ran a WILDCAT OFFENSE that fooled a lot of people. We have Kerley to use on this type of offense;
    3. TRADING UP usually gets you a starting player.
    4. It’s not the money, its the FACTORS.
    5. Go Jets!

  129. By GaryC on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    when you are looking at signing free agents it is like buying stock,you buy before it hits its apex,and you sell before the downturn,buy not the biggest name but who has the biggest upside in future,FORECAST,can the jets front office do that.

  130. By Eli Rodriguez on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    We fans know where our team fault lie and what upgrade are truly needed., I myself have a WISHLIST but why posted it, the Genius in the front office will select the exact opposite. Please, Lets get back to basics.(K.I.S.S.).

  131. By Harold on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    I think the Jets off-season strategy should be as follows:
    We should focus on improving the line in 1st Round. We should trade back and pick up another 2nd or 3rd round pick. With the 1st round pick we should get the best RT available Martin, Stanford, Glenn, Georgia, or Adams OSU. If none is available than take the best young WR prospect. My preference Kendall from Baylor.
    In second round the big rangy safety George IIoka from Boise State and the best developmental rush prospect with additional pick. After that draft for depth at ILB and future Guard prospect to take over for Moore. We than draft in the middle rounds depth at safety and try to find an all around TE to replace Keller. Target Mario Williams or Mathis Colts in FA

  132. By GaryC on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    Scjoe, concerning richardson, remember it all depends on where he ends up,the more he drops the better the team he is likely to be on.He only knew success at Alabama,Of course if he goes in the top 10 which a lot of people seem to think he will be on a worse team,Is he good enough to lift a team by himself,will he go to a team who pushes the run 60 percent ot the time,where he will be prone to more nicks,If it is me I do not pick a runner in the top 10 of draft.he then can make me look foolish and become emmitt smith, as I say only time will tell.

  133. By DKM on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    there was no carry over from 2010 scjoe because there wasnt a salarycap, in the new CBA they put in the carry over, so the 8 Mill. are from last year, it was put in till 2014 when teams need to spend at least 98% of the Salarycap till the new CBA expires.

  134. By DKM on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    No nonsense guy JFS64 im telling you, dont get me too exited otherwise i start lobbying now……haha, and getting B.Parcells to invest with him oh boy daydreaming is just awesome.

  135. By DKM on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    Trading up or down at this point is not what the Jets should think about, its not quantity that fixes this team it is quality. Do your homework as FO thats so much more important.

  136. By GaryC on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe, continuing on richardson, running back is one of the few positions where your success is measured by others doing their job,like the offensive line,unlike cornerbacks or wideouts where it is one on one backs have to have strong offensive lines to succeed,who thought chris johnson was on a par with adrian peterson,now with nfl people they are always debating on which one they would take.that is why I agree with some of the other posters that you can get a back later in the draft,who might be just as good as richardson.just remember some of these other backs didn’t have all americans blocking for them.

  137. By DKM on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe correct if im wrong but wasnt Powell also hurt half the season thats why we didnt see much of him.

  138. By DKM on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    Bye, Bye, so much for Super Mario since he made it clear to Houston newsoutlets that he has no problem with being the highest paid DE in the Leauge.

  139. By DKM on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    It is a interesting and a somewhat worrysome scenario involving Pouha, its not like the Jets havent surprised us before (lowballing Ellis) there could be a chance that Pouha goes somewhere else, than what ?
    Let this not become a issue cause a Rookie NT can set you back some ways, that Draftclass or even FA’s are not that deep this year.

  140. By JoeDog on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    If Barron tests out well at the combine, then he’s the guy I’d like to see the Jets draft in the first. It seemed like every week opposing TEs were having a field day against the Jets. This team truly needs a hard hitting safety.

  141. By JoeDog on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    Scratch that. I still want a safety but Barron isn’t healthy.

  142. By Bennett on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer Many teams have banged up O lines and their QB doesn’t have such a sub par season and then a total meltdown in the last 3 games with 9 turnovers. In the NFL players all play hurt and virtually every one has a nagging injury. When are you going to stop making excuses for him it’s everyones fault except his. YOU blamed everyone and everything except the right thing…. face it he is just not that good and not getting better

  143. By John on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    First off you have to focus on both LOS. Offense line was much worse than Defense. Either get a great lineman in draft or free agency. Improving the line will help QB, RB and REC. Then focus on defensive line. Need an impact pass rushing-all everything OLB. If you cause havoc in the back field and the two best receivers are covered than you can throw all remaining coverage players at the tight ends. The QB won’t have time to throw and we will double the most obvious REC(TE) for short gains. Just look at the JETS-RAVENS game when MS was continually harrassed. Then fill in the rest S, REC, more lineman.

  144. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe, I know we don’t see the practices and we don’t have a fraction of the info the coaches have. I also know that if you consistently pick guys who don’t make it out of practice you are, like GaryC says, ready to be made an offer you can’t refuse. I certainly wouldn’t let go of McKnight no matter what he’s done in practice without giving him more than 30 carries in a yr. Guess what, GaryC? I’d unload Holmes for McFadden or Mays and a #3 as westcoast says, but Mays is also the kind of guy we should be drafting. DKM, Martin and Parcells as the new owners is so much more exciting than anything else on this site today that I can’t believe it. I’ll sign the petition in letters big enough for Rex to read it without his rose-colored glasses.

  145. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    Hey westcoast, though the Bleacher Report writers are a little sloppy and amateurish sometimes (I’ll never forget their speculation on the possibility that the Jets would pick “Gary Sanchez”), I like that guy’s picks for the 5 most overrated Jets: Brick, Keller, Leonhard, Sanchez, and Holmes. Yeah, I’ll get a little tougher on SH if people get a little more real about the other 4. Leonhard was never big enough or good enough to be a starter, of course, that was just Rex’s raiding the Ravens and hoping to turn the guy into Ed Reed with his mouth alone, kind of like what he’s tried to do with MS. But Keller either has to be paired up with a more physical TE, made into a WR-TE a la Caster and Barkum back in the day, or maybe traded.

  146. By IRA on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    DKM,
    They were ready to pay Asomugha last summer and that wasn’t for a position they really needed so badly. Mario is a stud and would make this D the best in the league if they can fill in at safety too. I say they make a strong bid for Mario.

  147. By Row on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    I like the Barron pick, he’s a great sized S who can even stop the run some. Some of his highlights even include blitzing the QB. Definitely a ball hawk. I like that he’s not afraid to hit. Sometimes he plays the run a bit too much, but facing option offenses can cause that. He definitely wouldn’t arm tackle Tebow. I also feel the Jets NEED a first round RB or early second round. I am completely for trading up for the right running back who does NOT seek contact like Greene. (Knile Davis) I think the Jets need to cut ties with Greene. Lot of replacement RB’s out there who run hard and do not seek contact. LT should sign for another year. Orton would be a great sign if someone doesn’t offer him the kitchen sink. Go Jets

  148. By DKM on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    Ira
    you right, but the money was also available to fit him under the cap, in Marios case even if we get down lets say to 16-17 Mill. under the cap and put aside 4 to 5 Mill for the Draftpicks we still dont have enough to do anything else, and it still needs to be seen if he wants to play in a 3-4, cause the latest i heard was that he wants to stay in a 4-3 and prefers to play DE.

  149. By DKM on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    I can see Sparano bringing in a big blocking TE, maybe a Fasano or somebody like that, you know who also can catch once in a while no doubt.
    That also could mean getting rid of Keller or Cumberland i mean one or the other not both.

  150. By MIKE on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    Is this realistic anyone?

    Starting o

    WR TE RB TE WR
    Manningham Keller Greene Cumberland Holmes

    LT LG C RG RT
    Brick Slauson Mangold Moore Gaither

    Two TE cause Sparano base o usually uses extra TE over FB.
    Kerley 3RD WR

    Starting D
    DE NT DT
    Wilkerson Pouha Devito

    LOLB MLB MLB ROLB
    Upshaw Harris Scott Pace

    CB SS FS CB
    Revis Leonard Lowery Cro

    Wilson nickle back
    Maybin and Westermman in on 3rd down

  151. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    I think you’d have to add more like Mario, Allen, Asomugha, Clay Matthews, Ed Reed, and Ryan Clark before we’d be anywhere near the best D in the league, Ira.

  152. By Tom Spicer on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    Bennett, Slauson had a torn labrum, rotator cuff & bicep muscle. Moore had hip surgery & Mangold had a high ankle sprain. These are not guys with “nagging injurys” or “banged up”. A high ankle sprain is a 6 week injury which he had in season. The 2 other guys had surgey SORRY THAT IS NOT BANGED UP! You dont have surgey if you are banged up. Are you for REAL with that GARBAGE you just posted?

  153. By scjoe on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    DKM, I don’t know for sure that Powell was hurt. If he was, it was not a game time injury because he was inactive most game days.Not exactly what you want out of your 4th round pick. 64, I would make a Holmes for McFadden trade in a NY minute! Problem is Oakland is not in need of a WR.

  154. By scjoe on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    GaryC, some of your points I agree with, but remember Peterson was a top 5 pick by Minn and they didn’t have 5 pro bowlers along there O line, but Peterson had a great rookie year.I believe that a top quality RB can and will produce even if the O line is not top shelf, it comes down to speed, vision, and cutting ability, add a little power to that and you have an elite RB. I think Richardson has many of those traits.Our guys on the other hand lack most of them.

  155. By harry-o on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    pass rush (DL)
    &
    pass protection (OL)

    its that simple

    the jets have neither

  156. By scjoe on Feb 18, 2012 | Reply

    64, agree on McKnight. In fact if it came down to Greene or McKnight I would keep McKnight, just not as my lead back. DKM, the Pohua issue sure is worrisome, and what makes it even more worrisome now, is the fact that the Ellis trail has been postponed until May 22nd, that is after the draft and two months after the start of free agency. The Jets could wind up without a true NT on opening day if they don’t plan accordingly.

  157. By Jimmer on Feb 19, 2012 | Reply

    Other than our failure to stop any TE, the D wasn’t that poor. If the OL could open holes for the running game, the D would be much fresher. Our base D really doesn’t get much pressure, but CB play has been very very good. When Cro is having a bad day, he looks like most CB’s in the NFL. When he’s on, he’s almost as good as DR.
    I digress, if we seriously fix the OL disaster from 2011, the D will look that much better as well. This also will improve the running game, quieting all the SG haters. Protecting the QB will quiet all the MS haters too!
    Battles are won and lost in the trenches my friends.

  158. By Tom Spicer on Feb 19, 2012 | Reply

    My 11 year old nephew plays football 3 kids on his team are banged up. 1 is having hip surgery, 1 has a high ankle sprain & 1 has a torn labrum, rototor cuff & bicep muscle but they are only “banged up” LOL!

  159. By IRA on Feb 19, 2012 | Reply

    Well according to reports it looks like the Jets will sit out the Mario chase. Too bad but if it would mess up their cap and getting other players so be it. On to plan B draft the best available OLB and or take a good look at A. Spencer.

  160. By Tom Spicer on Feb 19, 2012 | Reply

    Bennett, Those same 3 games that you bring up I can bring up as well Mark was sacked 5, 4 & 3 times in those games. He had ZERO protection & his best player quit in the first of those 3 games . Brandon Moore the oldest Jet on the roster & Wayne Hunter BOTH said in the Post that he QUIT on the team in the Eagle game. If you dont protect the QB & your best player does not try you will not do well. Up until the Eagle game he had 29 TDS & 17 turnovers then it all fell apart.

  161. By Tom Spicer on Feb 19, 2012 | Reply

    Anything can change at the combine but at this point the Jets are going with 1 of the following. OT’S Kalil or Reiff. WR’S Blackmon, Wright or Floyd. RB’S Richardson, Miller or Wilson. G Decastro. S Barron. NT Poe. DE’S Coples or Mercilus. OLB’S Ingram, Upshaw or Brown. I just named 16 guys we have the 16th pick so some of these guys are worst case what we will get. You have to factor in Luck & RG 3 will go before 16. So we can knock who we think are the worst 2 off of that list. At that point is you pretty much know who we are taking. After free agency you can cut this list in half & really narrow it down.

  162. By GaryC on Feb 19, 2012 | Reply

    jet fan tom, you living in LaLa land knows that Mays problem is he has trouble in coverage which was his problem coming out of USC.the guy is big and a hitter but in space he would have the same problem as Smith and why he was not selected higher in draft.

  163. By Karan on Feb 19, 2012 | Reply

    First and foremost, the Jets must bring back Braylon Edwards! The guy is a Jet! The Jets need to re-unite Bray with Holmes and Sanchize. It was a great combo!

  164. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Feb 19, 2012 | Reply

    The “big and a hitter” part about Mays is what I meant, GaryC, when I said we need to be picking that kind of guy at S. I’m not sure Mays is worth that much, although it’s a little early to tell especially given the way he’s been moved around. The deal that westcoast saw on Bleacher Report looked do-able but no, I wouldn’t give up too much for him. And yeah, scjoe, WR is one of the few areas in which OAK has some depth, but Holmes, Heyward-Bey, Moore, and Murphy would be a pretty scary set of WRs for them. Hard to see the Jets refusing to deal Holmes for McFadden assuming the latter is healthy.

  165. By westcoastJET28 on Feb 19, 2012 | Reply

    ’64 Tom, I agree with you about the Bleacher Report writers, in an anallitical standpoint I don’t view them as very creditable sources but, in terms of speculation they take the proverbial cake. They seem to not be afraid to put themselves out there. I also read that article about the 5 most overrated Jets and couldn’t agree more. The Jets of today are a crack pot of overrated players. Every since the Farve move we seem to be more and more of a team for the headlines. Although its probably impossible, we need to stray from the media and focus on winning again. I for one, am tired of being embarrassed as a fan. We use to be routed for as underdogs, now we are the laughing stocks of the NFL (and possible all of sports) and are hated from all fronts. Class it up Jets, class it up!

  166. By scjoe on Feb 19, 2012 | Reply

    spicer, more then half of the potential players you listed above will be long, long gone before the Jets are on the clock. I would narrow that list to Miller, Floyd, Barron and possibly Poe. As for Brown, the LB out of NC? He is listed at under 230 on some reports, but I wonder what his worth would be as a strong safety? He runs a 4.4. Otherwise he is strictly an OLB in a 4-3. I would love the idea of a trade down, select Miller, and concentrate on OLB and safety in round 2.

  167. By Keith Beckett on Feb 19, 2012 | Reply

    The Jets have many needs true, some will be addressed through free agency. Bringing back B. Edwards, signing another TE like Davis from Wash. and OL Grubbs from Balt would all be good value signings and should be a good start. A B/U QB Quinn would help too, and the S as well as DE/ILB should all be targeted for young athletes with value not big names. If done right the Jets could then draft the BPA in every round. I feel the pick at 16 could very well be a player from Alabama. If T. Richardson falls or D. Hightower is available at 16 they must be considered although C. Upshaw may appear to be the bigger need the LB core is aging and I count A. Maybin as pick 1a. The only way I select M. Barron is if he is there in rd.#2. OT may be rd. #1?

  168. By Keith Beckett on Feb 19, 2012 | Reply

    W.Hunter is one Jet in need of a reworked deal or he is gone! I take him back at league min. as he is useful in a pinch but is not starting caliber. The Jets have many players who are not performing to their contracts and must fix that problem ASAP.
    I mentioned above OT may be the way to go in round #1? It depends on many factors(free agent additions/losses). Eventually it woulod be nice to see this team in position to draft BPA and use Free agency to plug gaps(young players who can be had at a fair price, avoid the big name high dollar players unless you are retaining team talent, even then it must be done wisely). Built to Win in 2012; “Bring it Home”.

  169. By 40 year fan on Feb 19, 2012 | Reply

    We need to concentrate on getting a pass rush…Forget about any corners or safeties . We must get a PASS RUSH #1 ..Next we need some help on the offense ..Another top quality tight end so we can double up at tight end . I would kill to have Braylon Edwards back or J Co …We got rid of our best recievers.. We had good chemistry ..And Edwards blocked superbly

  170. By 40 year fan on Feb 19, 2012 | Reply

    And Vlad D. better not be in a Jets uni next year , it’s embarrassing

  171. By 40 year fan on Feb 19, 2012 | Reply

    DKM – Would take Fasano in a N.Y. minute ..That is a big tough Parcells style T.E. that would be perfect …But , we can’t give up Keller ..At wide reciever we need to exploit Patrick Turner more ..Schotty didn’t have the smarts enough to realize what we have ..That’s why he’s gone

  172. By Dino on Feb 19, 2012 | Reply

    This team is in trouble. These guys are all over the map with positions that need to be filled. I can’t see them with any shot at the division, and will be very hard pressed to make the playoffs. How did all this crap go on in the locker room unchecked? Ryan was to busy making a movie and writing a book? Isn’t that the responsibility of the head coach? I am not a Lombardi fan, but his teams would never have been allowed to have that. Been a Jet fan for over 40 years…..excited about this team?…..I can’t kid myself any more. This is the most frustrating unit yet.

  173. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Feb 20, 2012 | Reply

    Westcoast, the Jets won’t be able to “class it up,” or smarten it up, until Rex is coaching at some junior college somewhere. I’m not even interested anymore in discussing whether he’s a good enough HC to take this team anywhere.

  174. By Matt on Feb 20, 2012 | Reply

    First Round: Ingram(LB), Upshaw(LB) or Floyd(WR) even Brockers(DE) I’m think those are difference makers something this team has lacked is a stand out guy besides Revis but not even he’s a playmaker due to being targeted like a Reed or Lewis type..
    Second Round: Rondell Lewis(LB), Marvin Mcnutt(WR)(2nd or 3rd rounder), Glen(OL),Osemele(OL) Sanders(OT)
    Third Round: Billy Winn(DE) Aaron Henry(S), Harrison Smith(S), Fleener(TE)
    Anyway there is so many quality players in this draft hopefully the Jets take advantage of it and trade down in some rounds to get more picks that how good of a draft it is..

  175. By Matt on Feb 20, 2012 | Reply

    And on another note Rex doesn’t do the salary cap nor is he allowed to draft players those decisions are made by Mr. T I remember when Rex said he got one pick it was Conner in the Fifth Round so everyone stop blaming REX you sound fickle and if the fanbase is that fickle then no wonder the team never goes anywhere. MAN UP!!!

  176. By Gabriel on Feb 20, 2012 | Reply

    tom 64 He did take a bunch of average players to the AFC championship twice, thats something to be proud of when the Falcons or Saints have such talant and they lose in the first round of the playoffs or so. I really have a hard time understanding why you don’t like him? He is everything Football is Supoose to be about, Bold , brash, tough. and always having faith in his players and not afraid to take hits for them. These players and most of the Fans of Jet Nation love this man. He is a great HC who is still learning the ropes of being one. Patience is the key. That is why Pouha is a dominant run stuffer because Rex kept him around and was patient with him. He can coach up players and get them to play at their max.

  177. By robertpapalia on Feb 20, 2012 | Reply

    Tom I to am a Jet fan since 1964. I could`nt agree with you more. Rex Ryan will soon wear out his welcome with his act. And after that he will be history.

  178. By Row on Feb 20, 2012 | Reply

    As I have stated before; Rex bought into the NY media and became someone new who sidestepped his comments while questioning his own authority. What Rex needs to do again is start scheming. Find players who fit his scheme. Stop questioning himself, and start blitzing again. It is absolutely ridiculous that he quit being aggressive on defense. Players stopped hitting and we stopped running the ball. He is the coach, it IS his responsibility and he needs to fix it. Another thing this past year I’ve noticed is his complacency, he lets the same players make the same mistakes and has lots of favoritism which affects the product on the field. If you want to win, scheme like the Giants have against the Pats. Hit Brady, Tebow, and the rest of them

  179. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Feb 21, 2012 | Reply

    Matt, the problem is hiring a HC who doesn’t command enough respect to control the draft, and that’s always been our problem. But the fact that Rex takes Conner with his “one pick” doesn’t speak too well of him. Gabriel, where’s this church you go to that teaches it’s cool to flip the bird at fans? That’s the kind of thing our HC does and for that alone I’d can him. But his obvious lack of skills re many aspects of the HC job is the bigger reason he must go. We got very lucky his 1st yr and blew it vs. PIT the 2nd ’cause Mr. Ground and Pound wouldn’t overrule Schotty at the goal line. On any small-market team that didn’t have the NYC hype machine at its service, a HC like this would be considered a joke. robertpapalia, you got it right.

  180. By Christian on Feb 24, 2012 | Reply

    how’s this sound to everybody:
    Defense
    start maybin for a pass rusher
    trade for raven’s SS bernard pollard–“the patriot slayer”–so he can help us slay the patriots.
    offense
    o-line: depth so we can rest our starters early so they don’t get hurt. 4/5 of our linemen are great players, but of those 4, 3 had injuries this season.
    @RT we can’t let hunter start, but there are no good FA’s. so we take a rookie in the 1st rd
    TE: keller is great, but sparano will want another TE–I suggest drafting fleener in rd 2
    wr-SIGN BRAYLON EDWARDS!!
    rb-if we trade greene (although we has pretty good last year-4.2ypc) then sign green-ellis
    qb-sign jason campbell so he and mcelroy can compete w/ sanchez or be traded if they do good in preseason

  181. By Jack on Feb 25, 2012 | Reply

    Here are players that I believe that the Jets will be looking to get if any of them falls to the 16th pick and I wouldn’t to surprised if the Jets traded down with Im kinda hoping for. Safely Mark Barron RB, Trent Richardson but hardly think he’ll falls that far. RT, Mike Adams if they don’t address a RT in F/A. look for Jets take a RT, in the 2nd Rd, RT, Zebrie Sanders or RT, Andrew Datko with the extra picks if they trade down in the 1st Rd. OLB Melvin Ingram, or OLB Courtney UpShaw. 2nd Rd if they don’t take RT, Mike Adams look for the Jets to take RT, Zebrie Sanders and with the extra picks S,

  182. By Jack on Feb 26, 2012 | Reply

    Here a new mock drafts I just seen RD 1 OT, Mike Adams RD 2 OLB, Vinny Curry RD 3 WR, Stephen Hills RD 4-A, OLB,Demario Davis RD 4-B,S, Trumaine Johnson RD 5, S,Janzen Jackson RD6 TE,George Bryan RD7 DE,James Brooke.

  183. By bojo3525 on Feb 26, 2012 | Reply

    We need David Wilson!

  184. By Jack on Feb 26, 2012 | Reply

    Who is David Wilson?

  185. By Jack on Feb 26, 2012 | Reply

    Oh ok the RB, I think Jets are going to get a RB, from free agents not are sure who it might be but there a hand full of them that are F/A. Marshawn Lynch, Michael Bush, Mike Tolbert, LeBarrette Blount, Matt Forte and Peyton Hills. RB’s from the drafts Barry Sanders Jr, Chris Thompson, FL,St, Marcus Lattimore South Carolina, Lamar Miller Miami, and LeMichael James Oregon. Silas Redd Penn St, Jr not if he coming out Montee Ball Wisconstin, and Ray Graham Pitt.

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