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Mom’s Day Is Big at Richardson’s House

Posted by Randy Lange on May 11, 2012 – 11:51 am

Mother’s Day is just around the corner on Sunday, which means new Jets DE Jay Richardson is about to turn the corner for his family’s annual Mother’s Day dinner at mom Deborah Johnson’s house in Dublin, Ohio.

“Mother’s Day is my favorite time of the year,” said Deborah, who has three sons, in a story just posted this morning on usafootball.com. “The greatest gift you can give me is a meal to share with family. That is the tradition I inherited from my mother, where we sat around the table and discussed everything. It is a time that families can connect. Dinner at our house doesn’t start on Mother’s Day until everyone is there.”

Will the Jets’ defensive line start the season with Richardson on the roster? Mike DeVito, in the feature we just posted on newyorkjets.com, discusses the DL’s increased versatility and talent, and Richardson, signed last month as a street free agent, could be one of the contributors.

The 6’6″, 280-pounder was Oakland’s fifth-round pick in 2007 out of Ohio State. In three years with the Raiders, he played in 48 games with 22 starts and produced seven sacks and 108 tackles before spending last season as a backup on Seattle’s DL.

Lankster Honored in NYC

Matt Slauson isn’t the only Jet who’s overcome his stutter. Ellis Lankster, the Jets’ cornerback and special-teamer (and also Slauson’s neighbor in the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center locker room) was honored by the Stuttering Foundation at its May 8 gala in New York to celebrate National Stuttering Awareness Week and the foundation’s 65th anniversary as the world’s leading charitable organization helping those who stutter.

“Ellis shows his true toughness by sharing his struggles with fluency as a child,” said Jane Fraser, president of the foundation. “He refused to let his stutter keep him from his dream of playing professional football, and he is committed to helping and inspiring children attain their dreams by overcoming the obstacles they face.”

Fraser presented Lankster with the Foundation’s “Converting Awareness into Action” Award for the hope and inspiration he brings to the stuttering community.

Lankster’s main accomplishment had nothing to do with stuttering but it did have to do with executing something tough to do at Philadelphia in Week 15 last season, then doing it again about 15 minutes later. Lankster recovered two special-teams fumbles vs. the Birds, off a first-quarter kickoff return and a second-quarter punt return, making him the first Jet in at least 30 years to snag two ST fumble recoveries in the same game.

Hill Among Rookies in NFLPA Spotlight

Jets second-round WR Stephen Hill is one of the 35 members of the NFL’s 2012 rookie draft class who are set to be highlighted beginning Thursday, May 17, at the NFLPA Rookie Premiere presented by Nike.

The rookies will wear professional game jerseys for the first time and thus will be the first class to model Nike’s new uniforms as they participate in photo shoots at the Rose Bowl by trading card companies Panini America and Topps.

Hill, plus Nick Toon, the son of Jets Ring of Honor WR Al Toon who is a Saints draft pick out of Wisconsin, are among the rookies who will be front and center during the three-day event that will conclude Saturday night, May 21, with an exclusive wrap party sponsored by Nike and Verizon that will bring together players past, present and future at Colony Hollywood in Los Angeles.

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  1. By IRA on May 11, 2012 | Reply

    All good stuff to read about. Wonder if they have a good b/u with Richardson this season. I think there are going to be some very interesting battles for spots in camp this summer. Lots of new players and along with that comes being hungry for a spot.

  2. By scjoe on May 11, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t know to much about Richardson, but I would put him in that “tweener” category, a little to small for the D line in a 3-4, and a little to big for an OLB in that same 3-4. Maybe the plan is to get some more muscle on him and keep him on the D line.

  3. By russ on May 11, 2012 | Reply

    Hill has great attitude hope he gets to start…

  4. By Jimmer on May 11, 2012 | Reply

    If we cut Ripoti last week, Richardson must have at least shown something to the coaches. Some players thrive in 1 system, and do nothing in another. I think DL depth is good, it’s the starters I worry about.

  5. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on May 11, 2012 | Reply

    Back to the ever-worthless Wildcat, I see the Bills have chosen to sign Vince Young rather than give Brad Smith much more time at QB.

  6. By wayne on May 12, 2012 | Reply

    Rumors of Matt Slauson’s demise have been greatly exaggerated…….He might not be an All pro, but you don’t need one at every position to win…….Move along, there are problems at other positions in dire need of fixing….Good man, good character…..This team needs more of that.

  7. By jim rossi on May 12, 2012 | Reply

    Whats the latest on BIG GRIFFIN ? I had a dream that he and LITTLE G (ganaway), were going to be special. Thoughts?

  8. By GaryC on May 12, 2012 | Reply

    jet fan tom, young being signed by bills, here is the perfect scenario, bills cut smith, jets resign him, trade tebow,get back the two picks they traded to get him.

  9. By kw65fan on May 12, 2012 | Reply

    On McElroy Jimmer…Tom64 also agrees…but we will see in pre-season. Unfortunately I see in first game Sanchize and TT splitting time and Mac cleaning up in 4th qtr. Second game against the Giants mostly Sanchize with TT cleaning up. If at third game they decide to start TT…watchout…controversy here we come. Crazy with all these QB’s on roster but better safe than sorry if someone gets hurt in training camp or preseason games. I just hope Saprano gives enough reps for all to see exactly what he has.

  10. By JACK 39 on May 12, 2012 | Reply

    Went are the Jets going to signs a RT, HELLO!

  11. By danny on May 12, 2012 | Reply

    64 when did Brad Smith ever get reps at QB besides the wildcat ? He was never a 1st, 2nd or 3rd string QB on our team so of course the bills would sign Vince Yound as a backup QB and not consider Brad a QB. Brad Smith did make some nice plays for the Bills at WR last season and i always felt we never gave him enough of a chance at WR with his athletic ability and height.

  12. By wayne on May 12, 2012 | Reply

    danny, it’s not that the Jets didn’t give Brad Smith an oppty as a WR, it was that Smith never committed to the position……He kept holding out hopes of being a QB. From day one he talked about it and Mangini catered to that……Good guy, nice contribs to Jets, but he had a pop gun for an arm. It was obvious to see he didn’t have the arm to QB in the NFL, but the Jets dilly dallied with him instead of giving him a dose of reality….Even when running the wildcat he rarely threw the ball…..Smart a guy as he is, he couldn’t see for himself……

  13. By wayne on May 12, 2012 | Reply

    Most popular player on the roster……..back up QB…….No more vertically challenged QBs please…….

  14. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on May 13, 2012 | Reply

    I’ll take that Smith-Tebow-picks scenario, GaryC, but then I’d trade Smith for more picks. I was only joking about Smith and young, danny, but we gave Smith 4 yrs to show anything at WR and he never did. Actually, the position we shoulda given him a chance at is QB, but we have a long history of picking guys that we don’t seriously expect to play.

  15. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on May 13, 2012 | Reply

    From Cimini, one of Rex’s biggest blunders, finally acknowledged: “Jets’ DLmen rave about new position coach Karl Dunbar, who was fired by the Vikings. KD had an advantage over his predecessor the moment he walked in the door: He actually played the position and coached it. The previous D-line coach, Mark Carrier, was a former secondary coach who played safety; it made no sense to have him coach the D-Line. KD already has taught the players a couple of pass-rushing tricks, including the long-arm technique. It’s almost like a running back’s straight arm, a way to create separation from the blocker. DE Mike DeVito told me it “allows you to read what the offensive lineman is doing. It’s a great move. He’s got a bunch of stuff like that.”

  16. By Jersey Joe on May 13, 2012 | Reply

    Richardson looks like another reclamation project – we won’t know if he’s solid line depth or a worthless stumble-bum till he hits the field in green/white – are we seeing signs that Rex is willing to run more of a 4-3 or hybrid D? The 3-4 sometimes looks dated and over-matched, think about it – O-line with 5 huge 300+ pounders and throw in a big TE and you’ve got 6 big bodies against 3 up front in the standard 3-4 D – the LB core is outweighed by 50lbs each and they wear down over the course of a game. Plus, as we learned from the Raider game our LB’s (until now with Davis) don’t have the speed to catch a RB in the open field. But I think we may have drafted 4 potential starters this year with : Antonio Allen,Coples,Davis, and Hill !

  17. By IRA on May 13, 2012 | Reply

    Thats so right about Mizzou. He could’ve easily been a #3 WR and caught 35 or so passses every year. He also was not given that chance by the Jets too.
    Happy Mother’s Day to All!
    GO JETS!!!!

  18. By kw65fan on May 13, 2012 | Reply

    Wayne, you don’t know what you are talking about with Smith. In his 4 year career with Missouri he passed for over 8000 yards and ran for over 4000 yards and winning 2 bowl games…MVP in one of them. When the Jets drafted him they projected him a s a receiver/Kr…never had a chance at QB at the time. He was dual threat in the wildcat but unfortunately he ran most of the time. With the jets he was 4 for 7 with a TD. Certainly not much to go on since most of his accomplishments was running with the ball either out of the backfield or KR on ST.

  19. By danny on May 13, 2012 | Reply

    I really like that we picked up Karl Dunbar to coach our D line. He should really help the young guys out and good to hear he can even help vets like Devito out and make them better players. Great move getting Dunbar we should see a big difference with this guy coaching our D line

  20. By Tom Spicer on May 13, 2012 | Reply

    SCJoe, In the prior post you talked about Hill going to GT & why did he go there & why didnt he leave there. Demarius Thomas a very good WR for the Broncos went there & Calvin Megatron Johnson maybe the best WR in the entire NFL went there & played in that offense. Maybe they went there cause that was the best offer they got & they didnt have the pick of the litter as far as schools went. But it has nothing to do with the talents they are now. I think this Hill kid is going to suprise you & be a good one.

  21. By Tom Spicer on May 13, 2012 | Reply

    I like the Hill pick I just would not have traded up for him. But I am okay with the Coples & Hill picks to me the problems are 1 the linebacker pick in the 3rd round who is not a pass rusher. 2 Trading a 4th & a 6th round pick for Tebow. 3 Trading a 5th round pick to move up 4 spots to get Hill. Those are the problems pass rusher & WR were needs for the Jets & the Jets think they addressed them with those 2 picks. But the 3 things I listed above make no sense. When we could have gotten a RT, RB, Safety or OLB with those 3rd, 4th, 5th & 6th round picks.

  22. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on May 14, 2012 | Reply

    From a post on the NFL site of the kind you don’t often see here: “Ryan’s insistence on trying 2 go “smash mouth” is outdated. The worst running team in the NFL won the Super Bowl last year. So why does he continue 2 preach about trying 2 run the football? All top 5 passing offenses were in the playoffs last year. All the top 5 quarterbacks were in the playoffs last year. All three 5,000 yard passers were in the playoffs last year. And lastly, the worst running team in the NFL has participated in three of the last four Super Bowls! Offenses which emphasize the pass win championships, not running teams.” Funny how some people just get it and others twist themselves into knots trying not to…

  23. By IRA on May 14, 2012 | Reply

    Wonder what was behind Cavanaugh’s comments he made to the News? Whether it was positive or negative comments they were true. And this is really the first time anybody really has gone into some depth about Mark’s good and bad since he has ben a Jet. Two things either this story was off the record or there is another reason. Usually QB’s coaches don’t make critical remarks about their QB to the media for public knowledge. That is left for the HC to do. How about the mechanics of Mark’s game? Shouldn’t there be some improvement? Thats on who? Something is wrong about this story hitting the papers.

  24. By Frank on May 14, 2012 | Reply

    Teeeeeeeebooooooowwwwwww Whooooooooaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!
    Get used to it boys!
    The kid is having a major impact on the team already. He will be the starting QB of the NYJ at some point this season. With a brutal first 5 games I am forecasting game 5 or 6 as his starting point. He brings leadership, passion, toughness and a winning attitude that ELEVATES the players around him.
    Gooooooo Teeeeeeeeebooooooowwwwwww Whooooooooaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!

  25. By kw65fan on May 14, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Ira…just look at where it came from…this Manish guy is nothing but causing trouble from the end of the year. I think almost more than half of his writings come from his dreams. He is the one that wrote the article that “He said”..and He said…with no names, Sure there was no names…he made them up. He see’s it is quiet…so let blast sanchez some more…make him even MORE uncomfortable with not only TT here and NOW his QB coach.
    This Manish is nothing but a bottom feeder looking for dirt. Only writer I read in the News is Gary Myers…at least he is honest and up front. And of course our excellent writer Mr. Lange.

  26. By GaryC on May 14, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe, as hard as this is to believe,there are guys who actually like the school they attend and Georgia Tech is a fine engineering school,that used to be their nickname,a player who might be looking forward to a career after football, how novel,this school doesn’t pass their students with basketweaving classes,stop knocking a guy who has the character to stay at a school even though it can retard his football developement,just slightly.

  27. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on May 14, 2012 | Reply

    Ira, the only thing wrong about the story on Cavanaugh’s comments on Sanchez is that it took you and probably a lot of other folks posting on this site all the time until the story ran to stop buying into Rex and Mr T’s hype. The fact is if Sanchez makes the same rookie mistakes this yr that he made last yr, he’ll sit and Tebow will start by mid-season. That’s fine with me because if Tebow doesn’t show by the end of the season that he can really play QB at the pro level, next yr they might both be gone and either McElroy, Barkley, or someone else will be at QB. Unless Woody plans on selling the team, he’d surely like to have a great QB in the yr the SB is played on our turf…even though it’s really more the Giants’ turf…

  28. By scjoe on May 14, 2012 | Reply

    GaryC, “most” major college programs offer the “basket weaving” course to their athletes. Also “most” major college programs offer adequate engineering programs and courses to ANYONE. That said, I am not even sure if Hill even graduated OR if he obtained an engineering degree, are you? Do you think that Stanford (Ivy league west) offers it’s athletes an adequate engineering program?
    C’mon man!

  29. By IRA on May 14, 2012 | Reply

    Tom, Just had this convo with somebody yesterday. I still think mark can get this done but just in case he can’t i wouldn’t want Barkley. USC has had a good run on QB’s at the college level but so far besides some success that Mark has had none have made it in the NFL. Booty, Leinart, Rob Johnson, Salisbury, Marinovich and there are a bunch that aren’t worth listing. C Palmer was good until he got hurt. So sorry i would stay away from USC QB’s. Lets hope Mark does take the next step.

  30. By scjoe on May 14, 2012 | Reply

    Tom Spicer, The biggest issue I have with the Hill pick is the fact there were more pressing needs. But with that said, I simply do not like the fact you move up in the 2nd round, give away draft picks in a year that you simply can’t afford to do so, all for a guy who had a total of 49 receptions in his entire college career. The fact that GaryC mentions how good an engineering program that school has, has absolutely nothing to do with it. I am talking strictly pro football and pro football decisions. This was a bad one.

  31. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on May 14, 2012 | Reply

    Ira, I hope Sanchez OR Tebow OR McElroy takes the next step but in defense of Barkley, he throws better, longer, and more accurately than all of them.

  32. By GaryC on May 14, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe,of course a course does not predict whether a guy will be a success or not,but if I am drafting a player,If he can deal with a REAL MAJOR in school,then he can definitely figure out an NFL PLAYBOOK.

  33. By scjoe on May 14, 2012 | Reply

    Cavanaugh”s comments have echoed what I have been saying for the past three years. INTANGIBLES!!! Forget the distorted stats. Of course the die hard Sanchez supporters will not agree even though these comments came directly from his position coach. It lends at least a little credibility to what I have been saying all along. Take the blinders off people, the proof is right there in front of you. Can it change? Will it change? As a Jet fan I certainly hope so. Am I optimistic about it? No!

  34. By Jersey Joe on May 14, 2012 | Reply

    Disagree scjoe – This team desperately needed an explosive size/speed wideout that they haven’t had since probably Wes Walker. Holmes has skills but doesn’t scare anybody – it would have been a miracle if Hill was still there the way WR’s were going off the board – I think the Jets may have a poor mans Mega-tron here. It will be interesting to see if Sanchez has the arm to connect with Hill on go-routes, one thing I noticed about Tebow is – If anything he can throw a pretty decent deep ball, heck he may have a stronger arm than MS does – its the short quick timing routes where he struggles with his footwork and accuracy. Would anyone here be surprised if Ganaway muscles out Greene for snaps this year? May be a better receiver too!

  35. By wayne on May 14, 2012 | Reply

    kw65, I am well aware of what he did at MizzzzzzzU. better talent than him at the college level couldn’t make the transition……What does that have to do with his weak arm? Why isn’t any teams in the NF of L kicking in his door to pick him up and make him their starting QB? Far too many teams are in desperate need of a starting QB to let Mizzu just lie around languishing like this. They were wishy washy with him. Shoulda told him outright you are not QB material. Instead they made him jack of all trade………………………………………Big, tough, smart, fast. Woulda, coulda been a good WR……………………List of college QBs putting up #s is not short one.

  36. By scjoe on May 14, 2012 | Reply

    GaryC, figuring out an NFL playbook on paper and mastering it on the playing field are two entirely different things. I have seen many 3.5 – 4.0 guys who have proved that to be true over the 50 plus years I have been watching. Just saying.

  37. By wayne on May 14, 2012 | Reply

    Don’t think much of the draft guru thing, but even more disappointed in Kiper for penciling in the Blond kid from USC as the #1 guy in next years draft….MARK THIS DOWN NOW. HE’S NOT GOING NUMBER ONE……………6’2′ weak arm QB. Not happening. They make em cute at that school thought, don’t they?……………..And wait till you get a load of the girlfriend……Drama U.

  38. By Tom Spicer on May 14, 2012 | Reply

    Jersey Joe, I have said that before in the 6th round Ganaway is a great pick he is at least as good as Shonne Greene but he is a good pass catcher. When Greene goes to catch a pass it hits him in the face mask or hands & he drops it.

  39. By Tom Spicer on May 14, 2012 | Reply

    I missed it what did Cavanaugh say about Sanchez?

  40. By scjoe on May 14, 2012 | Reply

    Jersey Joe, Respect your opinion and only hope you can respect mine. But I think you nailed it when you point out Sanchez shortcomings and the deep pass (with accuracy anyway) being one of them. And yes, totally agree that on the other hand,the deep pass is one of Tebow’s strong suites. Problem is “at this point” his strong suites (as a pure QB anyway) are limited. But as far as the Hill pick? As I have been trying to point out to 64 Tom, it was not so much a problem with the pick, as it was satisfying more obvious needs at that time. Based on last season alone, O line and safety were more pressing needs then a WR. That is all it comes down to , for me anyway.

  41. By Tom Spicer on May 14, 2012 | Reply

    Frank, Sal Palantonio said they only way Tim MR. 46% Tebow starts this year is if the Jets go 1 & 7. He said Mark is 100% the QB also the last thing ANY Jet fan should want is for Tebow to start for the following 2 reasons 1 Tebow is a worse QB & it is supposed to be about winning not selling tickets 2 If Mark does get benched we will have a backup QB who is guaranteed $20 MIL over the next 2 years if he plays or not. The Jets can not afford to pay $20 MIL to a guy who rides the bench. Thats why if you were making a 2 year commitment to Mark you should have never traded for Tebow. You should have taken that 4th & 6th round picks & used them to try to get better team around Mark.

  42. By Tom Spicer on May 14, 2012 | Reply

    Frank, Also what is this great impact that Tebow is having on the team? What exactly has he done so far?

  43. By Tom Spicer on May 14, 2012 | Reply

    Frank & other Tebow fanatics are funny. Frank constantly bashes Mark & Tebow comes to the team he is proven significantly WORSE but in there mind he is better. Than the guy has a hand full of practices & he has had a great impact on the team GIVE ME A BREAK!

  44. By scjoe on May 14, 2012 | Reply

    Ditto that Wayne. What a kid does at the college level does not always transition to the pro game. That is fact, not opinion. Smith was a good all around player, he excelled at KR and STs, he was adequate as a WR, and probably could have had much more of an impact there had they kept him there solely. But he is not an NFL QB. History has shown us many Brad Smiths over the years, a very good college QB who wasn’t even drafted (as a QB)

  45. By Allan O'Dane on May 15, 2012 | Reply

    64Tom, we’ve been saying that “ground & pound” is not the answer for a long time now. Maybe 3 years ago it might have worked…But we didn’t have guys named lewis and reed on our defense to make the stops we needed. Passing and balanced offenses are now and the future. This league is tying the hands of CB’s and the defenses in whole so more TD’s can be scored through the air. That’s why teams are loading up on CBs. Just look at the NE’s offense now people…REALLY take a good look…with the best QB in the game and the weapons he now has it’s scary lookin!..I have mentioned before Steelers/Packers/NE/Saints/Gaints all have balanced O. All have won SB. And take a look at the 49ers..they were a ground&pound, not anymore with Moss/Mario M.

  46. By Allan O'Dane on May 15, 2012 | Reply

    We have Linebackers like Bellore-Davis-Mauga-Maybin and McIntyre this is the future here…and the Defensive line Coples..Ellis and Wilkerson. Let’s just hope that these guys play together for a long time and become a great front seven. I like that McKnight put some weight on and still keeping that speed he might have a breakout year.Also this kid Ganaway is going to push greene for that starting spot. And if McKnight does well also…greene may drop to #3. Maybe this is what greene needs, someone on his tail. I just can’t believe with all the talent in the world Braylon Edwards still hasn’t been picked up? They say he’s done!? at 27? hard to believe. Holmes and Edwards made a good tadem.

  47. By THUNDER LIPS on May 15, 2012 | Reply

    its a make it or break it year for the sanchize/sanchize-not. i was never sold on him but maybe he will surprise me. i think the management knows it and they got Tebow as the temporary band aid to come in and keep it interested and to salvage the season from a football persepctive but most importantly from a publicity perspective. think about it … (1) Sanchez plays well, jets win … Woody makes more money. (2) Sanchez stumbles, Jets Lose … Tebow comes in … Woody makes more money. it’s a win win for everyone except the loyal jets fan.

    man. i just hope couples pans out. if he doesn’t rex will have a first class ticket to the biggest loser next season.

  48. By GaryC on May 15, 2012 | Reply

    look the college draft is not deep with quarterbacks this year, Tebow could be a good bargaining chip if someone needs a qb after this year, dealing from strength is something the jets don’t often have.

  49. By GaryC on May 15, 2012 | Reply

    the continuation of knocking this draft is ludicrous in some quarters,you know who you are,at least we didn’t draft a 5’10 nickleback, a small school offensive lineman,a blocking fullback and a halfback who has been fumble prone so far even though I liked the pick,only time will tell in his case,if your an optimist which I know most aren’t we just drafted L.C.Greenwood,Al Toon, Mo Lewis,Ed Reed and Mike Alstott,how is that Scjoe.

  50. By wayne on May 15, 2012 | Reply

    Ira, it’s all about getting the message thru to the starting QB. He keeps telling everybody that Tim is a backup…..Trying to diminish Tim’s specter….Good that coaches let him know he’s got work to do….Parcells was great at that. This kid got complacent before he did anything….Every compliment of Tebow is a poke in the ribs for GQ. AND I’M ALL FOR THAT………GQ got all wrinkled up when one snap was taken from him during “practicel”, practice,hehehe, this is KILLIN’ HIM………GOOD!!!!!!!!!!…………………………………………………….If they could only straighten out that hitch in Tebow’s delivery.

  51. By IRA on May 15, 2012 | Reply

    -They will fill the roster on the D side just fine. I think the biggest thing that will make the D play like it did back in 09 will be Rex getting more involved and calling plays too. Lets face it thats what he is best at is calling the D.
    GO JETS!!!!

  52. By scjoe on May 15, 2012 | Reply

    Tom Spicer, in light of Cavanaugh’s most recent comments, those praising Tim Tebow and how much he has progressed as a QB, the day after “bashing” Sanchez, you may want to re think your two reasons why Sanchez will, under all circumstances, remain the starting QB.I think those two days of “analyzing” the two QBs could be very telling. As in, can you see the writing on the wall. That is the impression I got. I bet there are a lot more who came out of this with the same impression. I know camp hasn’t even started yet, but I have this feeling that the playing field has just leveled out big time for TT.

  53. By scjoe on May 15, 2012 | Reply

    well GaryC, it sounds like the 2009 draft revisited that you were referring to. I think that one was an absolute classic.I think it is kind of difficult to be “optimistic” about that one, even three years later. Of course this current draft, which you also alluded to(sarcastically?) is still a work in progress. It really don’t matter if you, and others are optimistic “now” or if me, and some others are not optimistic “now” because to much can (or can not) happen in the next 2-3 years to make any rational judgements, or put any kind of a grade on it “right now” SO, all we can offer “right now” is our opinions. I respect yours. Likewise??

  54. By scjoe on May 15, 2012 | Reply

    The Ellis trial is due to begin May 22nd. If found guilty he will be imprisoned or deported. I have been an advocate of drafting a “prototypical” NT in this past draft. That did not happen. So, if Ellis is found guilty, we have Pouha PERIOD. God help us if he goes down to injury early in the season, because the b/u situation along the D line is more suited to run a 4-3 then a 3-4. Again, poor planning by our illustrious FO.

  55. By Tom Spicer on May 15, 2012 | Reply

    SCJoe, If you read my above questions I asked what were those comments about Mark & what did he say about Tebow? Also based off of a weeks practice with no pads on anyone can look good. Based off of REAL playing in the NFL he is a 46% passer which is SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE than Mark.

  56. By IRA on May 15, 2012 | Reply

    yeah its really amazing all these years no coach or coaches have really fixed his throwing mechanics.

  57. By walt on May 15, 2012 | Reply

    If you ask me it does not look good for kenrick ellis.According to reports i have heard he not only broke the mans jaw and nose but he also beat him un conscience.If this is true it would seem to me to go far beyond self defence if nothing else.According to reports the victim in this case has filed a civil suit.The fact Clinkscales was in such a hurry to leave town is another indication that things may not be going well for Kenrick.

  58. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on May 15, 2012 | Reply

    Allan, I agree with you on everything but Edwards, we drafted Hill to start because there will be no friction between a promising rookie and a proven vet at WR. Spicer, I agree with everything you say including the idea that Sanchez is too expensive to bench unless we go 1-7. Unfortunately, that last isn’t out of the question. scjoe, I agree with you on the QBs to the extent that it wouldn’t be so hard to unload both Sanchez and Tebow and start over next yr if neither really take the job this yr. Any team that will trade two much-needed draft picks for a backup QB who can’t throw will do anything.

  59. By Tom Spicer on May 15, 2012 | Reply

    SCJoe, 100% the writing is on the wall for Sanchez the problem is this. With Tebow as the guy replacing him the wrong writing is on the wall. If it was a QB who is clearly better great I am all for it. But unfortunatly for the Jets it is not.

  60. By boni on May 15, 2012 | Reply

    Get ready for Tebow Time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  61. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on May 15, 2012 | Reply

    I’m shocked at what I just read by Cimini on the Ellis thing, which was the first really in-depth piece on it that I’ve seen. Sorry, this is another HUGE black mark against Mr T, Rex, and whoever else at Florham Park who thought it was a good idea to risk a high draft choice on anyone who had something like this going against him A PRIORI, BEFORE THE DRAFT! I’d think twice about wasting a #7 pick on a guy who beat somebody unconscious and then claims self-defense! More stupidity from a Jet regime that often seems to have lost its entire moral/legal/intellectual compass.

  62. By scjoe on May 15, 2012 | Reply

    Tom Spicer, what Cavanaugh said about Sanchez is basically what I have been saying the past three years, and that is, he makes way to many bad decisions, and that many of his INTs are for that reason. That falls into the intangible category I have been talking about all this time.Anyway,what he said about Tebow is he has really been impressed with his improved footwork, his arm strength, his accuracy his mechanics and his work ethic, and he believes Tebow can be a very good QB. Now, either comment on face value don’t mean much, but when they are said a day apart at this point in the off season it lends speculation.

  63. By scjoe on May 15, 2012 | Reply

    64, I am not sure about the incidentals of Sanchez contract, so I don’t know exactly what the down side would be to trading him next off season. The bigger question is, if he has another season like last season, what do you think the offers would be? As for Tebow? I would be shocked, TOTALLY shocked, if they don’t give him more then one season. Where this leaves McKelroy in this equation is anyone’s guess.

  64. By Mark F on May 15, 2012 | Reply

    Only one offensive lineman drafted concerns me. We need depth there. We need to sign a experienced RT so Sanchez doesn’t freak. Thats what happened last year. Bring back McKenzie from the Giants. If not it will be a long year.

  65. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on May 16, 2012 | Reply

    I’ll print this whole excerpt from Cimini, but I direct you especially to the first line, a quote from Namath: “Only four teams have used (the Wildcat) in professional football, and they were all because they didn’t have a quarterback,” he said. Hardly a ringing endorsement of Sanchez or Tebow, but Namath explained he likes the Wildcat for the Jets because of Sparano’s knowledge and the problems it will cause for opponents to prepare for. “At any rate, Tebow is a positive,” Namath said. “Any way you add him to the organization, he’s a positive.”

  66. By kw65fan on May 16, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Walt…the guy came at him with a baseball bat…what the heck would you do. Lets here all the facts first from the drunk first hitting on his (Ellis) girlfriend. I am sure there will be plent of witnesses vouching for Ellis. Guy was lucky it wasnt me…being a retired officer I would have emptied my clip on him…of course warning him first.

  67. By Allan O'Dane on May 16, 2012 | Reply

    oh boy…now the QB coach is telling everyone TT is a lot better then he thought. Mark made bad decisions….Is the writing on the wall any clearer then that? I may not like GQ that much…but why in the name of Joe willy namath would you say that in public? They are messing with this kid head. QB’s are either fragile or tuff as nails..this kid is fragile. We all know Rex doesn’t like him ( See game when he called Sanchez stupid ). We all know Rex doesn’t trust him ( See ground & pound theory ). But it’s his fouth year..this is the year he should show vast improvement. I just don’t get it. A back-up QB who can’t throw accurately…No Veteran QB on the roster. What is going on here? This is not how you plan for the what if’s!

  68. By GaryC on May 16, 2012 | Reply

    It is funny with this jet organization that sanchez is on the hot seat, yet you hear nothing about bart,can’t make a tackle,scott,pace and thomas as to them losing their positions.

  69. By Jersey Joe on May 16, 2012 | Reply

    Good Point GaryC – It will be a long season on D if our dinosaurs – Scott, Pace and Thomas are starting at LB, the best case scenario is these 3 mentoring the speed-backers like Davis and Maybin, and that even Bellore, Mauga and Mcintyre might take a step in development this season. How do we explain this fascination with Greg McElroy – is this guy another Brett Ratliff ? Looks sharp in a pre-season scrimmage against kids that are selling insurance and playing in the arena league – Jet fans desperate for a stud QB see.. Johnny Unitas :D
    I just watched his highlight reel @Bama ?? I couldn’t find a spiral anywhere – he makes Tebow look like slingin Sammy Baugh lol Maybe all the teams that passed him over were RIGHT !

  70. By IRA on May 16, 2012 | Reply

    You can read all this garabage in the papers. Until they hit the field in Cortland this is a bunch of specualation that is going to run wild driven by the media. Lets just wait and see how this all plays out.

  71. By Allan O'Dane on May 16, 2012 | Reply

    GaryC, you know what makes a good ILB? a GREAT NT…I can understand your view on scott..he talks smack but doesn’t really back it up. Harris doesn’t talk at all…but he;s the silent type. I like Pouha but everyone makes him out to be the next butch willfork. He’s a blue collar NT. Pace is overrated big-time. Thomas a year older and slower…that’s why I wanted a stud ILB to play alongside harris ( like Luke Kuchely )…maybin should play everydown he is still young. But he needs more strength. I even thought move Scott to OLB…he played that spot with ravens for awhile….but…we have some young backers’..time to let them loose….

  72. By Tom Spicer on May 16, 2012 | Reply

    Tom 64, In the other paper it says Namath said that Tebow has not shot a being the starter & that Mark is clearly a better passing QB. Which is what I have been saying all along.

  73. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on May 16, 2012 | Reply

    I agree with you and Namath about Sanchez starting over Tebow, Spicer. But this edition of the Jets has shown nothing resembling consistency of intent or approach, which I believe reflects Mr T and Rex’s weak personalities and undisciplined management styles, so nothing would surprise me.

  74. By Tom Spicer on May 16, 2012 | Reply

    In regards to Ellis a guy came at him with a baseball bat. He defended himself what was he supposed to do let the guy hit him with a bat? What is impressive to me is that the guy had a bat & Ellis still kicked his but. I have high hopes for this kid. I think with the lockout, no mini camps, no OTA’S & half a training camp plus a mid season ankle injury & the fact that his whole life he was a 4-3 DT & he had to play NT for the first time in his life with everything above that I listed. I think last year you cant count Pouha is in his 30’s I lthink Ellis is our NT of the future.

  75. By scjoe on May 16, 2012 | Reply

    Tom Spice, my very first reaction to the Tebow trade was whaaaaaaat? But I will be honest, it has been a little more encouraging reading recent comments by Rex, Sparano, and by Cavanaugh. Guys who can see up close and personal what this guy brings to the table. How he has progressed as a passer during this off season. His work ethic, his maturity, his ability to throw the deep pass with accuracy (I have heard some “experts” say he is a top 5 deep passer.) All of that has to be encouraging to any Jet fan. Worse case scenario? He is a major upgrade at b/u QB then we have had in a long, long time.

  76. By scjoe on May 16, 2012 | Reply

    Spice, no one admires Joe Willie any more then I do. That said, he spends most of his time down in S Florida fishing and sunning and is really in no position to know first hand what Tebow has done during the off season, how he has progressed as a passer, what he has shown to merit all those positive comments by Rex, Sparano, and most of all his position coach Cavanaugh. So, I take that at face value. Add the fact that he has said some pretty negative things himself over the years about MS, and it makes you wonder where he is coming from.

  77. By Allan O'Dane on May 17, 2012 | Reply

    Hey I got the answer…………….Trade Sanchez & Tebow for Drew Brees….let Brees mentor McElory we win a couple of superbowls..That would be to easy right….yeah…I can dream can’t I?…

  78. By Jersey Joe on May 17, 2012 | Reply

    I had exactly the same reaction to the Tebow trade that you did scjoe – I felt that Denver might just release the guy and somebody (Jacksonville) would pick him up. I think Fox showed the league in 2011 how NOT to use Tebow and hopefully the Broncos will crash and burn this year after Manning gets drilled. That O-line is nothing like what Peyton was used to in Indy – if the Jets O-line responds to Sparano’s coaching style and provided they fix the right tackle leak – Whoever is in the backfield should at least have a chance (Prayer) of executing the play:D With the upgraded skill position players Jets have now, maybe Tebow will feel like he’s back at Florida and LITE EM UP !!

  79. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on May 17, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe, Namath still sees the game a lot better than Rex ever will, from the swamps of Florida or the sideline. Allan, wish we could make it happen on Brees and McElroy!

  80. By scjoe on May 17, 2012 | Reply

    Tom Spicer, with regard to Ellis. I would think that if it were a simple case of self defense the process would have been over long ago. I know that you remember me warning about this very subject before the draft. If Ellis is found guilty and Pouha gets hurt early (like Jenkins did a couple of times) who is the NT? Once again, no contingency plan. In that case I think you will see a lot of 4-3 alignments because there are more 4-3 oriented b/us along the D line on this roster then 3-4s.

  81. By scjoe on May 17, 2012 | Reply

    64, I am a Joe Willie guy. Always was, always will be. But, I will stand by my statement that he can’t possibly be in a position to know what progress Tebow has made as a passer to make a comment like that. Also, even if he does see the game better then Rex ever will, Rex is not the only “inside” person gushing about Tebow’s progress and his improvement. Funny, I haven’t heard a word about Sanchez improvement over last year or his progress in his passing, his footwork, or his accuracy.

  82. By scjoe on May 17, 2012 | Reply

    Jersey Joe, agree with all you said with the exception of Manning and that Bronco O line. I am a big believer that Manning, with his quick release, his ability to quickly read opposing defenses, and just his pure savvy as a QB, that he will more then make up for any of the Bronco’s shortcomings along their O line. As for our O line? The only spot I am overly concerned with, as you are, is that RT spot.We can only hope that Hunter has improved half as much as “they say” Tebow has. If not? It will be Deja Vu all over again.

  83. By Jersey Joe on May 17, 2012 | Reply

    Yeah we actually had a shot at Brees when he left the Chargers – forget about him now he’s a top 4 QB in the league – we’d have to give up half the team in trade! McElroy will be out of the NFL in 3 years he’s got a highschool arm – makes Chad Pennington look like John Elway – what are you guys thinking about ? Plus he’s a chump locker-room rumor shill and backstabber end of story !! The future QB of the Jets is carrying a clipboard for the Patriots, buried behind Brady and somebody named Bran Hoyer – Ryan Mallet has a hair trigger howitzer where his arm should be, let him learn the finer points of quaterbacking from Brady then we steal him in 2014 – we should have drafted him when he came out but Rex was picking up stumble-bums

  84. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on May 17, 2012 | Reply

    And today it’s proven that it’s NOT a simple case of self-defense, scjoe, with Ellis taking a plea and getting jail time. I’m finding it a little hard to believe that this guy was the best we coulda taken in that round when he’s not likely to have a normal yr in the league until his 3rd season. Smells like another one of Rex’s juvenile man-crushes on a small-college guy that he liked on a few plays on tape, like with Conner.

  85. By scjoe on May 18, 2012 | Reply

    ditto that 64. The only thing that will make that pick worthy would be Ellis becoming the next Kris Jenkins somewhere around year 3 or 4. I don’t see it happening. Jersey Joe, I think I would rather have a Joe Montana like Greg McElroy then a Ryan Leaf like Ryan Mallet. Besides, if this guy ever does get his head on straight he will be a Patriot for a while. Belichek is no dummy.

  86. By Jersey Joe on May 18, 2012 | Reply

    Yeah I would take Montana every day of the week SCJOE – I’ll take his 273 TD passes (273 more than McElroy has) 4 Super Bowl wins with 11 TD passes no int’s – first ballot hall of famer etc
    Joe was clearly the best QB of his era (80s) – but I think the NFL defenses have evolved so fast and in 2012 if your QB doesn’t have a power arm the DB’s will jump all over the slant routes and intercept those balls that hang in the air. Mallet may indeed have some similarities to Leaf who was thrown into the fire and burned up like a leaf – but McElroy has more in common with Tyler Palko than Joe Montana – I’ll be stunned if he’s still playing in 3 years :D

  87. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on May 19, 2012 | Reply

    I’m not quite as down on McElroy as you are here, Jersey Joe, but I congratulate on your comment about Montana. He was great in his time but I think what you say is a really good illustration of how certain players have to be viewed in the context of changes in the game, even if many greats might have adjusted to new conditions as Madden once said. Which is another reason that I don’t wanna hear too much about Namath’s interceptions or completion percentage, as those things weren’t viewed anything like the way they are today, especially in the AFL when Joe started out.

  88. By scjoe on May 19, 2012 | Reply

    Jersey Joe, WOW, has more in common with Tyler Palko? LOL, That is really scraping the bottom of the barrel. Tell you what, I don’t know what the future will bring for McElroy. But to me he is the complete opposite of Sanchez. No he may not have a rocket arm, but I think he can make all the throws. Unlike Sanchez his intangibles stand out. He is a smart kid, he is a leader, he can read defenses well,he is mature, and he is accurate. ALL the opposite of MS. Now, some say he was only playing against 2s & 3s. Yes, true, but he was also playing WITH 2s & 3s. I think what this kid needs is a “right place, right time” scenario.

  89. By Jersey Joe on May 20, 2012 | Reply

    ScJoe – I know right … I was cracking up here at the keyboard just typing that name Tyler Palko :D A touch of humor doesn’t hurt when it comes to us Jet’s fans – if this upcoming season is anything like the last 30 or so we’ll have more than our share of anguish and despair after every pick, missed tackle, botched play and humiliating loss. I suppose one of the most worn out cliche’s in football is “Everybody loves the Back-Up QB … Till you see him play for any extended time” Give you an example: In Detroit they drafted Drew Stanton out of MSU and he was instantly a fan favorite – to the point where even after landing Mathew Stafford – Stanton groupies were campaigning for their guy. Right up until that game against our NY Jet’s -

  90. By Jersey Joe on May 20, 2012 | Reply

    cont. Remember that game where the Lions were headed for a win till Stafford got knocked out – in comes Stanton to seal the victory. But then at the end of the game with the Lions clinging to the lead, needing only to run out the clock, Stanton looking like a deer in the headlights throws an incomplete (almost an INT) pass stopping the clock and giving the Jets a heartbeat. Sanchez led the team on some key drives and won it in overtime (I think) The Detroit sports-talk radio channels were all gushing over this kid (Sanchez) “Man, we shoulda traded down and picked him instead of Stafford” Stanton hit the the Bench, the hoopla died after his blown save (to use a baseball term) Their “McElroy” or “Brett Ratliff” s luster faded away !

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