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Revis’ Ranking: No. 5; NFL’s New KO Time: 4:25

Posted by Randy Lange on June 28, 2012 – 3:03 pm

Our congratulations to Darrelle Revis, who checked in at No. 5 in the NFL according to a vote of the league’s players as compiled by NFL Network in its “The Top 100: Players of 2012″ series that concluded with the top 10 Wednesday night.

It wasn’t hard to figure out that Revis would be checking in high this year, after he placed eighth overall in last year’s tabulation. He was the top cornerback last year (Charles Woodson was 16th) and was tops again this year (Woodson was 36th).

More important to me than the specific ranking is that Revis has been recognized by his peers, some of home talked about him on the show behind some of his highlights from the 2011 season.

Bills WR Stevie Johnson: “This is the NFL. This is pretty much the elite guys in the world of football. And you have a guy like Revis who’s playing man-to-man against the top guys. I mean, he’s on Andre Johnson, he’s on Fitzgerald, Welker, Brandon Marshall. All those guys you name, he’s guarding man-to-man the entire game.”

Patriots WR Wes Welker: “He’s a lot stronger than what people think. He’ll put you on the ground pretty quick. He’s kind of like the schoolyard bully at times.”

Jets WR Santonio Holmes: “Every team has the right to go at him, but he’s proven why it’s called Revis Island.”

New Sunday Kickoff Time

The NFL has announced today that it is tweaking its Sunday kickoff times, specifically for the Sunday late afternoon doubleheader games on CBS and FOX.

Those doubleheader games have kicked off at roughly 4:15 p.m. ET since that wrinkle was started in 1998. Beginning this year, those late games will now kick off at 4:25 p.m. ET. The 4:05 kickoff times for games not on the doubleheader network will remain unchanged.

The league explains that the new kickoff time will reduce instances when fans miss the end of a 1 p.m. game telecast because they must receive the opening kickoff of their home team’s late-afternoon game. Additionally, fans not in the cities of the late doubleheader opponents will be less likely to miss the beginning of the late doubleheader game.

The NFL analyzed games from 2009-11 and discovered that 44 games required part of the audience to be switched to a mandatory doubleheader game kickoff. With a 4:25 kickoff, that number would have been reduced by 66 percent to only 15 games.

The Jets’ initial schedule for 2012 shows that they will be affected at least twice by the time change. Their Sept. 16 game at Pittsburgh was originally scheduled for 4:15, as was their Oct. 21 game at New England. Further, four of the Jets’ last five regular-season games are subject to NFL flex scheduling and so those games could also wind up getting the 4:25 nod.

The Jets’ Pittsburgh and New England road games are two of the about 40 games over the full season that will be impacted by the 10-minute kickoff time shift.

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92 Responses to “Revis’ Ranking: No. 5; NFL’s New KO Time: 4:25”

  1. By jetsfan80 on Jun 28, 2012 | Reply

    He is the top cover corner in the league. Unfortunately, he may be the top “cryer” corner in the league as well. Revis, please honor the contract you signed and don’t sign the next one until you agree to fulfill it 100%. He should not sign a written contract based on Mike T. verbally promising to revisit the deal in year three. I won’t let Mr. T off easily here either. If he did make that promise to Revis and then chose to ignore that promise this year, then that doesn’t say much for his character. Someone’s not being truthful here. Put the money aside and let’s go after a SB. He won’t have any problem getting paid big money by someone then.

  2. By vam on Jun 28, 2012 | Reply

    Well said rspikes, amen.

  3. By GaryC on Jun 28, 2012 | Reply

    see Ira, Kinnie was just camp fodder, the same with willis,Mcelroy was never going to be challenged by Kinnie,now if the jets could only put schladeraff at tackle instead of Stephen Heyer,more training camp fodder,the jets might be able to give some pressure to Hunter.

  4. By joe on Jun 28, 2012 | Reply

    WITH OR WITHOUT REVIS WE AINT WINNING THE SB (trade him for the rights to draft a real QB )The Jets have 2 players ranked in the top 100 Teams like NE ,PITTSBURGH have 7-8 GO FIGURE

  5. By joe on Jun 28, 2012 | Reply

    ps REVIS IS BLUFFING AS HE WILL NEVER EVER SIT OUT 2 YEARS (lose salary on top of having to pay back up front money.)IN 2 YEARS REVIS will be near 30 (DONE FOR A CB ) He played them for FOOLS 2 YEARS AGO and now hes trying to do it again .

  6. By scjoe on Jun 28, 2012 | Reply

    The subject is already getting old, but here is my take on it once more.There are not to many people in this country who would cry about making 10mil a year. Unfortunately the vast majority of those who do are athletes. My advice to DR (for one) would be to sit down, take a good look around the real world, see what is happening, then re think your position. There are those out there with no health care, there are those out there with no jobs, heck, there are some out there with no food. Consider yourself lucky, REALLY LUCKY, go out and honer your contract and wait until it’s conclusion before you allow any more tears to flow. THIS, coming from a die hard Jet fan.

  7. By IRA on Jun 28, 2012 | Reply

    Funny thing Revis owned all WR’s for the last few years. Johnson has given him some trouble. Last year he had 11-159 and 1 TD combined in the two games plus he dropped that game winning TD pass that would’ve gone about 40 yds at the Meadowlands. Johnson is very, very fast and does give Revis trouble. Still Revis is the best CB to ever play in the NFL. Funny how some players no matter how great they are have a bad matchup or two. I remember Koufax owned the NL but a few .200 hitters gave him trouble. Go figure.

  8. By IRA on Jun 29, 2012 | Reply

    Just catching up on some reading and thought these things were interesting. Last years 8-8 finish fits with the Jets producing 4,989 yds on offense and giving up 4,993 yds.
    Of their 35 sacks only 4 came from the DB’s for a team that sends their DB’s a lot. 2010 Coleman had 4 sacks himself.
    And i forgot about this drive vs the Chiefs when the Jets had a 90 yd TD drive and 81 of those yds came on Chief penalties.
    A Tebow note the Broncos beat the Chiefs 17-10 by rushing the ball 55 times and completing only 2 passes and thats after the Broncos lost their 2 top running backs to injuries that game.

  9. By IRA on Jun 29, 2012 | Reply

    Wouldn’t be surprised if they sign a veteran TE now that they have made room on the roster by releasing Willis and Kinne.
    What are your feelings about Mr Kraft pushing for an NFL franchise in London. I am so dead against it and wish they would not even have games overseas. The NFL is America’s sport and should only be played in the states. They make enough money and its still growing. Find a way to continue to expand it more in the USA not outside of it.

  10. By IRA on Jun 29, 2012 | Reply

    Last note the Tebow led Broncos are the first team since the 1956 Redskins to win 5 games in a row without completing more then 10 passes in any of those games. In todays NFL that is amazing!

  11. By GaryC on Jun 29, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe, wishful thinking on thinking these players worry about anyone but themselves,the elitist of the elite,and I am not talking quarterbacks,even with this dumb survey of the top 100,more ego stroking,can you imagine a player from the 60′s like huff or bednarik to give his opinion on how great paul hornung was,they would say,he isn’t so great if he can’t beat me.

  12. By THUNDER LIPS on Jun 29, 2012 | Reply

    A double edged sword that can fuel the hold out. Stronko has just about had it.

  13. By GaryC on Jun 29, 2012 | Reply

    Ira, when they are playing in europe,it will be prime time there and 4.00 o’clock here,so the nfl will make out on more prime time games if it is a success in europe,they can stick four nfl teams over there on a sunday and get maybe four prime time games between USA and England.

  14. By scjoe on Jun 29, 2012 | Reply

    Ira, Revis should not be considered “the best” CB ever until those INTs start rolling in. I would love for Randy to do a comparison on Revis INTs and Sanders at the same point in his career. INTs are as big a part of a CBs job, if not bigger, then break ups.

  15. By Randy Lange on Jun 29, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe, by my reckoning, Darrelle Revis after his first 50 games (including playoffs) was ahead of Deion Sanders after his first 50 games in interceptions, 16-15. But Deion put on a burst and led Darrelle after 60 games, 18 INTS to 16, and after 70 games, 24-17. Revis is now at 83 pro games, including playoffs, with 20 picks. Sanders after 83 games had 29 picks.

  16. By Tom Spicer on Jun 29, 2012 | Reply

    SCJoe, I know Tom 64 is not going to want to hear this & I know you have said the Jets want to be ground & pound but they do not have the guys to do it. But I have been thinking about you saying that & I think that the Jets think. Between Greene 225 lbs, Tebow 250 lbs & Ganaway 240 lbs they are going to pound there way to a Super Bowl.

  17. By scjoe on Jun 29, 2012 | Reply

    GaryC, I don’t remember ANY surveys back in the 60s. What I do remember were salaries in the 10s, 50s, and maybe 100 thousands. That was high on the salary scale for that era. Today it is ridiculously high!!! It is out of control. I think it is time for the NFL and the NFLPA to sit down and seriously think about capping all phases of the game, starting with salaries.

  18. By GaryC on Jun 29, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe, that is right,they did not do surveys,players didn’t have time with such frivolities back in the 60′s, many needed to get second and third jobs,and didn’t have the time to stroke each others egos.

  19. By joe on Jun 29, 2012 | Reply

    REVIS played all of last year net end result a 500 TEAM THAT DIDNT BEAT A WINNING TEAM ALL YEAR.With or without him we are NOT GOING TO THE SB.(THIS IS NOT ISSUE of LOSING AN ELITE QB WHOSE IMPACT IS CATOSTROPHIC hes a DB .A team ABSOLUTLY POSITIVELY DOES NOT NEED GREAT DBS TO WIN THE SB .How good were the GIANTS PACKERS SAINTS STEELERS CORNERS when they won the last 4 SB )Revis loses big time money if he trys this nonsence again .HES BLUFFING. If he sits out 2 years how much SALARY AND UP FRONT MONEY WILL HE HAVE TO REPAY THE JETS.Remember whatever bonus he was given up front is prorated -if he defaults on his contract he MUST repay the JETS

  20. By joe on Jun 29, 2012 | Reply

    lol as far as MIKE T PROMISING to reopen ..Guys a majority of my business is based on CONTRACTS.In NJ a verbal agreement if verifyed (witnessed )is BINDING .That being said iam sure REVIS was represented by the BEST OF THE BEST when he signed after the last holdout. WHY WERE THERE NO PERFORMANCE CLAUSES PUT IN WRITING SAYING IF REVIS played at this level ADDED BONUS ECT KICKED IN.

  21. By scjoe on Jun 29, 2012 | Reply

    Thanks for that breakdown Randy. It is actually much closer then I had ever imagined. Just seemed like Dion was a turnover machine.

  22. By scjoe on Jun 29, 2012 | Reply

    Tom Spicer, you have to be kidding me right? The RBs are “A” weak link, but not the only weak link, size and weight not withstanding. There is also the O line and the RT spot, and the lack of a quality blocking TE to consider as well. The Jets seem to be somewhere mid stream with their offensive philosophy. I just don’t know which way they are going OR should go. They don’t have quality personnel for either system. Think about it, one quality starting WR, (who happens to be a thorn in their side to boot) NO quality starters at RB. A TE more geared to the passing game then the running game, and of course no depth along the o line. Now, does Sparano “fix” all of this? Stay tuned.

  23. By wayne on Jun 29, 2012 | Reply

    So, after they”re done capping everything, will they then cap profits? Wishful thinking scjoe. You can’t put the Jeanie back in the bottle. In our system, company isn’t doing well if it doesn’t increase profits by at least 10% yoy. You only want ownership gorging on that pie? You expect PA to sit still for that? You can try going home again, but I’m bettin’ someone else is livin’ in that house.

    Spicer,they’re going to have to see if ground Rex works. The other thing didn’t. and if it is effective, why wouldn’t they continue it?

    Ira now that you done turn celebrity, your pen has lost its cap………….like 64.

  24. By DKM on Jun 29, 2012 | Reply

    i have to agree with some of the stuff here regarding Revis, but most of all he will NOT skip any Trainingcamp cosidering that the fines are to heavy under the new CBA, he will show and he will ride a Bike until he gets what he wants. At this point he either gets it or if MR.T is true to himself he looks for Trading partner (there will be plenty) and gets us 2 first rounders.
    Enough with players holding Football Teams hostage with Money demands while they still under contract you signed show some respect and honor it.
    One guy is not winning us the SB, but one guy can destroy the Salary cap for many years to come.

  25. By IRA on Jun 30, 2012 | Reply

    Leave it to Randy to come up with those stats.
    Sorry man while QB’s really tried to stay away from Sanders most QB’s don’t even look at Revis side. They tested him a bit more last year but had no success. The reason i put Revis above Sanders is because of his more physical style of play and Sanders couldn’t or wouldn’t tackle where Revis is a very sure tackler.
    GO JETS!!!!

  26. By scjoe on Jun 30, 2012 | Reply

    Wayne, I NEVER said it should be one sided. When I said there should be a cap on ALL phases of the game, that is exactly what I meant! That includes ticket prices, advertisement, concessions, players salaries, the whole ball of wax. Soon, especially in this economy, pro sporting events will completely shut out the lower to middle income families with their greed. And make no mistake, the greed is equal among both parties.

  27. By scjoe on Jun 30, 2012 | Reply

    Ira, last season the Bills and Stevie Johnson ate Revis up. Stevie Johnson is a good receiver, but not among the elite, Stevie Johnson is quick, but not among the quickest. What does all of that mean? In this copy cat league we call the NFL you can bet Jets opponents will be reviewing those two game tapes of last season very closely to see exactly what happened, starting with our old friend Belichek. Then again, with NE being what it is offensively there may not be a need, but watch for Miami and the rest of the league.

  28. By walt on Jun 30, 2012 | Reply

    Some pundits have been predicting that the Bills will overtake the jets this year.I do not wish the Bills any ill will But be real.I would say that at the very least their crystal ball is broken.I think if you took our discards this year you would have a pretty good NFL football team.Who had the number five defense last year and indeed the number one defence two years ago.It sure was not the Bills.Three of our starting OL two of which were probowlers had serious injury problems.All three are back healthy ready to raise havoc.The jets Have added key pieces to strengthen their defence at safety DL and LB.We have two young Quarterbacks on the team with playoff experience and a third who many people think has starting potential.Be realistic.

  29. By walt on Jun 30, 2012 | Reply

    I think it is reasonable to assume that all three of the Jets young Quarterbacks will only get better.No offence Bill fans but when it comes to gathering talent your team has been sadly lacking.Often overpaying for it.Of course there is worse look at the Browns.The only position on the jets that I worry about is RB.The jets have some very good young WRs TEs and OLs.And how about the Bills ability to judge talent.You guys let Maybin and a possible replacement for the holdout king Revis the CB lankster go.All I can say is thanks.

  30. By Karan on Jun 30, 2012 | Reply

    I agree, football will never be big overseas especially in England or Europe for that matter. Same thing here, we just don’t seem to get into soccer as a country. I personally like soccer alot and even though its really called football I will continue to call American football just football because this is America, this is our sport, it is the best sport in the world and we love it. I don’t care if I sound ignorant to foreigners, I shall call European football soccer haha. I love our football, my favorite sport, nothing beats it but there’s no denying that soccer is one heck of a sport as well.

  31. By joe on Jul 1, 2012 | Reply

    Jet fans LIVING IN A FANTASYLAND SINCE WE GOT ALL THESE GREAT PLAYERS why were we a 500 team that didnt beat a winning team all year .SINCE WE GOT ALL THESE GREAT PLAYERS why were only 2 PLAYERS recognized by their peers as being in the top 100 BEST IN THE GAME .(Pitts,NO,NE NY GIANTS SF ect )have 6,7,ect players on the list ect we got 2 )

  32. By joe on Jul 1, 2012 | Reply

    lOl WE SHOULD PETITION THE NFL FOR AN AWARD for being the GREATEST 500 team (greatest players ect)in NFL HISTORY .Its like being the worlds tallest midget or having the best deck cabin on the TITANTIC. If it wasnt for 15-16 other NFL FRANCHISES we could win the SB every year

  33. By Bennett on Jul 1, 2012 | Reply

    The pundits have ruled a QB has to be at least 6’2″ or he can not start in the NFL McElroy is 1/2″ to short and has a weak arm so he has no chance at all don’t even waste the time on him. Montana was small and had a “weak” arm he wasn’t supposed to make it. They some how overlooked that he was totally deadly accurate with a fanatic desire to win. The carried Brady as the 4th QB the pundits said he was to skinny, arkward and way way to slow to make it, Belicheck had a feeling and kept him he went against convential wisdom didn’t want some one else to get him just JUST in case. Remember Flutie? Good lord no shot at all.. go on to Canada man you way to short for the good ole Amerrrrrrrriiiiican N of F of L

  34. By joe on Jul 1, 2012 | Reply

    Forty plus years of being a JET FAN and i was under the incorrect assumption that in PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL a team actually had to WIN SOMETHING (TITLES ECT )or even post a winning record TO BE ANY GOOD boy was i wrong.IF ,WOULD HAVE COULD HAVE SHOULD HAVE 40 PLUS YEARS OF BEING ONE OF THE MOST SNAKEBIT FRANCHISES IN NFL HISTORY.Everything is going to be GREAT THIS YEAR THOUGH .Going up against teams with the likes of BREES,ROGERS BRADY MANNING BROS we got Sanchez and Tebow handing off to SGREENE CORDINATED by a coach who just got fired in MIAMI for winning too many games .SAME OLD JETS.

  35. By joe on Jul 1, 2012 | Reply

    ps AS FAR AS OUR QBs getting better THEY MUST GET BETTER .(WHEN YOUR RANKED THE WORST IN THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE theres no where to go but up.)In Sanches last game for example he threw 2 interceptions TO TWO DIFFERENT INTERIOR DEFENCIVE LINEMAN .That feat alone will be hard to duplicate .Rothesburger ,Rogers P Manning ,E Manning Brady Brees LOOK OUT

  36. By Bennett on Jul 1, 2012 | Reply

    The Sanchez led offense had a 3rd down conversion rate of 34,7% in good ole ’11 good for 22nd in the NFL. Mind you this was with a 50 mil. WR and a 6’5″+/- monster target on the other side, not to mention a hall of fame RB with pretty good hands and a pretty good Tight End that can make plays. Not very good …was the O line that bad? Was the play caliing that bad ? Another interesting tidbit… the Jets did not have a 100 yard reciever for the last 14 games of the season. Some have said Sanchez is a better QB than Eli at this stage of his “developement” Hmmmmm…..curious conclusion… based on what??? This happens again you WILL see Tebow even if he can’t throw the ole potato worth a darn !

  37. By Bennett on Jul 1, 2012 | Reply

    To finish my though properly: …even if he can’t throw the ole potato worth a darn he will get you those 3rd downs… one way or another.. hard to win without converting a wee bit more…. LIKE AROUND HALF (or so)

  38. By Bennett on Jul 1, 2012 | Reply

    We got pundits all over the place. We have the “talking head ” political pundits the sound like the stupidist smart people I have ever heard, the regurgitate the daily talking points from both political parties week after week in the guise of orginal thinking But the football pundits take the proverbale cake… turn a camera on these idiots and its like the forgot everthing the ever learned about the sport in the obvious attempt to be wiitty, controversial and what they seem to think is daringly interesting to the viewer. Throw in the obligatory female moderator whose claim to fame is good teeth and the ability to read a tele-prompter to lead a debate she neither fully understands or really ever wanted to… and what do you have?

  39. By Jimmer on Jul 1, 2012 | Reply

    Joe, if no cb is that important, why is revis the only guy your beloved Brady looks for at the snap count? That goes for any defense he faces. The Jets CB’s are easily the best in the NFL. If you watched NYJ games, you’d know they weren’t the issue, it was the slot and TE’s that killed the Jets. But I see a much improved pass rush this year as well. There will be more IQ at the ST position, and more speed at LB. Things that hurt us bad last yr.

  40. By IRA on Jul 1, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe, All it means is that S. Johnson has Revis’ number for now. Lets see how this matchup is this year.
    Wow its not even July 4th yet and all this neagative talk. I know its been hot outside but please lets wait until the first month of the season to start crying the blues.
    GO JETS!!!!

  41. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jul 2, 2012 | Reply

    That’s right, Spice, if only weight alone made an RB great. I’ll stand by my view, which scjoe supported after months of our wrangling about drafting Hill, that’s Sparano’s version of ground and pound is going to involve a lot more and hopefully better throwing. They’re only calling it ground and pound to make it look like Rex has any skill with the O and by the way, if the O improves but the team as a whole doesn’t, watch for Sparano to take over at HC next yr. wayne, what celebrity? Ira, me? I just had a lot of work last week, could be close to a career breakthrough after 30 yrs of grunt work. As for Revis, yeah, he’s the best but we ain’t gonna be while he’s in his prime so I’m open to dealing him for players and a few high picks.

  42. By Jake on Jul 2, 2012 | Reply

    I thought this was the Jets web site… my bad. whats so wrong with living in fantasy land about your favorite NFL Team? Don’t we all watch football to get away from our everyday lives, so what does it hurt if we dream a little? Are the Jets going to win the Super Bowl this year…. probably not, but to every other fan of every other team I say “Heck yeah were winning the Super Bowl this year” and then their response to me is “didn’t you say that last year”… I always say back “And I meant it!”. I’m 21 and I’ve only been bleeding green for about ten years, not as long as some of you, so maybe I don’t know where you are coming from yet. so I’m just going to keep living in fantasy land if that’s okay with you.

  43. By IRA on Jul 2, 2012 | Reply

    As per reports the Jets are 6 mill under the cap as of now. The way i think the Revis situation will play out is Revis wil get some sort of bonus or something added to his current deal for this year to hold him over while they start to work on a long term deal so he can finish his career as a Jet which he will sign after this year.

  44. By scjoe on Jul 2, 2012 | Reply

    I happen to think that “Bleacher Report” is a second rate outfit. Just seems a little “rag tag” to me. But, today’s story about the 6 Jets who could possibly “be dealt” before the start of the season was quite amusing. Lets start with Hunter and Ducasse. How can you use the term “deal” what can you expect in return? A #7 in the 2020 draft for both? Next Sanchez, what is his trade value after his performance last season? Where are the potential landing spots? Next Holmes. They couldn’t trade this guy if they wanted to with the contract they gave him. Next Revis.This one makes a little sense (especially if he holds out) if they can get a ransom for him do it. Then DeVito. The one guy I wouldn’t want to see go, probably makes the most sense.

  45. By GaryC on Jul 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ira, the canadian league opens up tonight, you haven’t mentioned it, for some reason I guess with the nfl not in a lockout,the canadian league doesn’t interest you anymore,just remember canada is just one step away from having GLOBAL AMERICAN FOOTBALL.

  46. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jul 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ira, “finish my career as a Jet” or a Charger or a whatever is becoming the most meaninglessly overused phrase in the NFL. I personally don’t give a damn if Revis finishes his career as a Jet, especially if we remain a frequent joke for most of that time. What I’d like to see him do is finish his greedy, passive-aggressive whining and start thinking of the team. scjoe, I haven’t gone on Bleacher Report much since the day they said the Jets should draft Jay Sanchez, but sportswriter friends of mine, including some who’ve turned down jobs there, tell me the place is thought of as an amateur outfit by folks of their ilk. I’ll stick with the more professionally researched and run sites, including this one.

  47. By IRA on Jul 2, 2012 | Reply

    Gary, Thanks i do turn into the CFL for a few minutes to watch some games. Different game faster and different rules as you know. Some former Jet tryouts are still in the league. Rickey Ray was one of my favorites. Great football name.
    Agree Randy’s work and the Jets site is one of the best place for Jets info!

  48. By joe on Jul 2, 2012 | Reply

    JIMMERS EVIDENCED BY our 500 RECORD AND FAILURE TO BEAT A WINNING TEAM ALL YEAR tell me how it matters that we have great corners.You also mentioned Tom BRADY LOOKS at the snap count for REVIS interesting as last year BRADY in 2 games scored over 75 points on our D and had a qb rating of over 110 .Untill WE GET A PRO BOWL LEVEL QB IN HERE NOTHING MATTERS ITS ALL WINDOW DRESSING .YOU CAN WIN THE SB WITHOUT GREAT CORNERS (NY GIANYS NO SAINTS )you CANT WIN THE SB WITHOUT A GREAT QB

  49. By joe on Jul 2, 2012 | Reply

    Jake your young wait till you hit 51 AND HAVE DECADES of EMBARRASSMENT brought about by LOSING and INCOMPETANCE under your belt.I have been there for it all and IT NEVER EVER CHANGES =THE NET RESULT IS ALWAYS THE SAME .

  50. By joe on Jul 2, 2012 | Reply


  51. By scjoe on Jul 2, 2012 | Reply

    64, funny thing, that is the feeling I get with Bleacher Report “amateurs” but sometimes when I see a story that strikes my attention I view it. That is why I looked at that particular one. Also with you on that meaningless phrase “finishing my career as a …..” With the lack of loyalty in pro sports today (both ways) that term is a joke. DR has been an elite CB for a few years now and the Jets have won nothing. If you can get a top RB, QB, WR, pass rusher+(a high pick) for him, you do it. Sorry Ira.

  52. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jul 2, 2012 | Reply

    Agreed, Ira, Randy rules, rocks, and reigns, as do Eric and the rest of the staff. Now if only they could get us a backup center…

  53. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jul 2, 2012 | Reply

    I know what you mean, scjoe, a good Jets-related headline can get me to almost any site but then sometimes you read the story and see that it’s all smoke, speculation, and incompetence. And thanks for noting that our elite CB isn’t going to get us to the SB all by himself. So since we’re not 1 or 2 guys away from the SB but more like 6 or 7 (we may have drafted a few of those especially in Hill, Coples, Davis, the two safetys, and Ganaway), I’m not afraid of trading Revis for half another team’s top picks and players. Yeah, joe, I just turned 57 a few weeks ago and realized it was 43 YEARS AGO when I last saw the Jets triumphant! Most of the people I work with (or even for) are younger than that!

  54. By GaryC on Jul 2, 2012 | Reply

    and last year people said I was crazy when I said to trade revis to new england for a bushel of their draft picks,seeing that we seemed to have figured out how to draft,of course time will tell, it doesn’t look like such a crazy idea now.

  55. By scjoe on Jul 2, 2012 | Reply

    GaryC, I wouldn’t go that far as to trade him to NE. After all, I would be willing to bet there are at least 20-25 teams who would be glad to trade for DR. So, go out of the AFC. Pick a team in the NFC you believe would be one of the bottom dwellers, ask for one of their top players and their #1. I bet it would get done.How about St.L. How about Chris Long and their #1? How about TB? Da’quan Bowers and their #1? Either of those two, plus a high pick would more then compensate the loss of DR (and his constant contract squabbles)

  56. By DKM on Jul 2, 2012 | Reply

    last year he wasnt a problem GaryC but he became one this year and im in line with the majority here good ridance and take the BEST offer you can get and there will be plenty.

  57. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jul 2, 2012 | Reply

    No, GaryC, trading Revis for a big chunk of the future doesn’t sound crazy to me at all. Forget all this talk about Jet theme songs and music tie-ins, the most appropriate musical accompaniment would be McGuinn, Hillman, and Gram Parsons standing on the sidelines at Florham Park singing “You Ain’t Goin’ Nowhere” — at least this season. Which is fine with me as long as we finally decide who our could-be-elite QB is, develop both a strong running and passing game, and keep unloading these old, slow guys on D who haven’t made a big play since Bush 2 was president.

  58. By IRA on Jul 3, 2012 | Reply

    Can’t argue that and i am sure the Jets have looked at that scenario too. Who knows maybe thats what happens at the end of this season. Only time will tell.
    But look at it this way if the new young front 7 can get to the QB and Revis does his thing man now you are talking about the #1 D in the NFL and who knows where that takes them.
    GO JETS!!!!

  59. By IRA on Jul 3, 2012 | Reply

    Just looking over some kicker’s #’s and while jamnikowski is know for his strong leg 7-10 from 50+ he is still kicking 10 games in warm weather and denver. While Gould 6-6 and Dawson 7-8 are dealing with bad weather. I think Dawson is one of the most underrated kickers in the NFL. Also Nugent had a bounce back year at 86.8% and going 14-16 from 40-49 yds.
    Hope Brown or Folk can have a season like those guys.
    Everybody have a Happy and Safe 4th!

  60. By GaryC on Jul 3, 2012 | Reply

    Look, I mentioned New England because of their terrible secondary,they can and would give up significant picks for revis, and what is revis’s ceiling for greatness,he will not be at the top of his game in another 3 to 4 years,age does hit us all,maybe like the old yankees and football giants who waited to long to replenish,maybe it is time for the jets to do something radical,look what the cowboys got for Herschel Walker.they then became a dynasty.

  61. By GaryC on Jul 3, 2012 | Reply

    jet fan tom,belated happy birthday,and my 57th comes up in november,we are pretty close in age,and HEARTBREAK.

  62. By DKM on Jul 3, 2012 | Reply

    Ira i tell you where takes us great Defense + mediocre Offense ( for now its still the same as last year) = 8-8. NOT MUCH IMPROVEMENT.

  63. By scjoe on Jul 3, 2012 | Reply

    Ira, I have confidence in the defense. I think they are an above average unit that “can be” well above average if certain things break right. But the concern has to be with the offense. Just to many questions. There are questions at the QB position, the RB position, to a little lesser degree the WR position (the #2 at least) and of course questions along the o line and the depth at that unit. That just may be to many questions. It is difficult to foresee ALL of those questions being answered positively, but luckily, not impossible.

  64. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jul 3, 2012 | Reply

    By the way, scjoe, I forgot to congratulate you on your analysis of why we lack the tools for any overly ground-and-poundy O, which is why the Sparano version will resemble what he did at MIA, with a lot of passing including long passes. And yes, Sparano fixes this by showing off a more coherent, motivated, and simplified O and taking over as HC when we go anywhere from 6-10 to 8-8 and folks finally realize Rex was mostly hot air. Ira, yeah, Revis is a sure tackler, which is why it was so shocking to watch him punt when Tebow was coming at him last yr — which proves no one is perfect and no one is untouchable when it comes to trades. I like scjoe’s idea of dealing him to the worst NFC team.

  65. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jul 3, 2012 | Reply

    For those who think we draft well, from Cimini: “The Jets have 15 1st-round picks on the roster, but only 9 are “homegrown.” That reflects their penchant for signing free agents and making trades. It’s amazing they have only 1 productive player from the 2nd round. The 2nd round has haunted them for a long time, dating back to the 1990s. (Browning Nagle, anyone?) Through the mid-2000s, the 4th-round usually produced solid players (Jerricho Cotchery, Kerry Rhodes, etc.), but they boast only two 4th-rounders on the roster. The only late-round gem is G Matt Slauson, a 2-year starter. Otherwise, they’ve imported other teams’ late-round castoffs. They replenished their depth with their most recent draft, which consisted of 8 players.”

  66. By Jimmer on Jul 3, 2012 | Reply

    Joe, re-read my original post. If we could stop the TE, we would be a much better team. If I remember correct, the last time Sanchez and Brady met in the playoffs,,,,,,,,, The Supposed “Elite” Brady lost the game. I guess Sanchez was just better that day? No, the Defense won that game, which was all I was pointing out.

  67. By Ricky on Jul 3, 2012 | Reply

    Im starting to think we should just overhaul our whole roster completely. Idk I am a die hard Jets fan and I always will be but there is to s of frustration on the offensive side of the ball even our defense is getting old I don’t see how we can contend for a championship anytime soon… I hope I am wrong but I do t like the look of this.

  68. By Jimmer on Jul 3, 2012 | Reply

    Ira, I finally get to mention your spot on Fransesca. Someone who is no longer with us that used to post on aol boards in the 90′s said you were an old guy. If you look like that this many years later, god bless.

  69. By scjoe on Jul 3, 2012 | Reply

    64, if memory serves me, Leon Washington, Leon Johnson, Fabini, Lowery, Brad Smith and McKnight all were drafted in the 4th round. And that dreaded 2nd round brought Kellen Clemens, Ducasse, Justin Miller, and lets not forget Alex Van Dyke. Maybe the Jets should trade their 2nd rounder each year for a 4th LOL.

  70. By boni on Jul 3, 2012 | Reply

    If you haven’t seen it. At #14


  71. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jul 4, 2012 | Reply

    At least YOUR birthday present might be Sparano taking over for Rex at HC, GaryC, mine was a possible Revis holdout. Ricky, your post brings to mind the old, old jazz standard “I’m Beginning to See the Light” but it’s a good thing, like DKM says until we’re strong on both sides of the ball and done with these illusions that we can win big without an explosive O, an elite QB, etc., it’s that first track on the Byrds’ SWEETHEART OF THE RODEO for us, to update my musical references to merely 44 yrs ago — entirely appropriate, since we haven’t had the best team in football since that very same yr. Congratulations on making the big-time media, Ira, even if it’s apparently on a show hosted by someone even tougher on the Jets than our friend joe.

  72. By Bill McDonough on Jul 4, 2012 | Reply

    NFL in London , cman,the only thing I want from England , is a good soccer style field goal kicker to replace Folk !

  73. By wayne on Jul 4, 2012 | Reply

    I ain’t mad at ya GQ. Eva? Now that’s a move I gotta admire.

  74. By IRA on Jul 4, 2012 | Reply

    DKM, Lets wait and see. I think they will have to hold teams to 17 pts or under. If so they can win 10 games.
    Tom, Revis whiff on Tebow was not like him. I will counter that with him taking on B. Jacobs and bringing him down one on one in a preseason game.
    scjoe and Tom, Great point about the 4th rd pick its their homerun slot.
    Thanks man appreciate the kind words.
    BTW read today that P Manning’s Colts from 05-09 led the NFL in 3rd down conversions.And that Prater has hit 12-16 FG’s of 50+ in Den with him hitting a 59 yarder last year to put the Chi game in OT and then hitting a 51 yarder for the winner.

  75. By IRA on Jul 4, 2012 | Reply

    We all are entitled to our opinions about this team. Some good and some bad. Nobody really knows how this team will be until the games start and that includes the so called experts and media. One thing i am sure of is that this coaching staff will get the best out of this teams ability and everybody is hungry this year. Something they all lacked last year. Blame it on the lockout and over confidence thats fine. Sparano’s fire and Rex getting back to being hands on with the D will make this team a very competitive team. Where it takes us time will tell. It all starts in 23 days.
    GO JETS!!!!

  76. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jul 4, 2012 | Reply

    Inspired notion about the #2/#4 switch, scjoe!

  77. By Jets1/12/69 on Jul 5, 2012 | Reply

    Hey all, any advice for a novice traveler? Flying in to NY in early Aug, and thinking of going up to see them in Cortland. Are there any buses that go that route? Or any other ideas?

  78. By IRA on Jul 5, 2012 | Reply

    Buses go to Syracuse for sure and they must stop in Cortland too.
    The Jets had 37 sacks, 45 QB hits and 126 QB hurries. While the NYG had 62, 64 and 121. I think the Jets #’s will be up for sure. Does anybody think they can reach those #’s put up by the NYG?

  79. By KW65FAN on Jul 5, 2012 | Reply

    Would love to see it Ira….but hoping at least 50 sacks…60 hits and same hurries…at least it will show an improvement by the young guys on the line…a very good improvement. And as Coples gets in the groove…following year I expect sacks in the 60′s and with us being a more terrorized defense…NO more B/S let down like last year.

    Now…as many has stated…got to get the offense in gear….

  80. By ron alexander on Jul 5, 2012 | Reply

    TOM64, Lets not restrict our draft bungling to the 2nd rd. Since “traderMike took over(the2006 draft was his first in charge) we have done little(as Joe would love to point out) but draft avg. players with a few good ones mixed in! I have said this over & over, we are never going to be a top team until we get a good personell guy in here that knows talent! Tannenbaum is a cap guy who loves to make headlines with big trades but has done a lousey job picking the groceries as his boss used to say! S.C.Joe, if we do trade Revis we need more than a avg player and a #1 pk. Tannenbaum will screw up the pick as usual and we will wind up with nothing for one of the top players ever at that posisition.

  81. By RTW on Jul 5, 2012 | Reply

    @joe,man ALL you ever do is knock the jets!!!!! have some faith,we may win it someday!!!!!!! jeezz louise!!!!!! stevie johnson didnt eat Revis up in my opinion…all comeback routes n a few over the middle!!!!! thats how you do it man, no big gainers!! i didnt see mangold on the top 100,did he make it? p.s. that list is as voted by the players not the nfl network!!! ira the giants have that beast JPP.MAYBE IF OUR GUYS CAN TURN INTO THAT TYPE WE WILL!!! J-E-T-S #1 IN MY BRAIN ANYWAY!!!!

  82. By scjoe on Jul 5, 2012 | Reply

    Ron A, correct, but that is “assuming” Mike T don’t screw up that top selection from the bottom dweller. If that scenario (trade with ST.L for Long and their #1) came to fruition, and ST.L comes in at #31 or 32 that trade could be golden. Of course, “assuming” T don’t select another Gholston, Ducuasse, Wilson, Greene or yes, Sanchez with that golden pick. Maybe, just maybe, after another “average” season, it wont be Mike T doing the drafting.

  83. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jul 6, 2012 | Reply

    Ira, I love the way Revis tackles most of the time but no mere exhibition play can make up for his shocking deer-in-the-headlights whiff on Tebow. Ron, I lost interest in Mr T a year or so ago, while I like most of this yr’s picks he simply doesn’t know enough about the way the game is actually played, we’re not likely to go far as long as he’s here. And yes, scjoe, the number of very high picks who’ve simply not become stars — and that’s what you’re supposed to get out of your #1′s, not mere starters — is becoming depressing. Greene, Wilson, and Ducasse — and Sanchez? — basically have this yr to shine or you can start giving them anywhere from average to bust status.

  84. By scjoe on Jul 6, 2012 | Reply

    64 you are exactly right. Consider the fact that Sanchez not only was a top 10 pick, but he also cost a few other picks, as did Greene. As for Wilson and Ducasse, they were 2nd rounders. You would expect (and that is putting it lightly) that at least one of those picks would have become a star by now. Instead, as you pointed out, they are all on “bust” alert going in to this season. How long is Johnson content with that kind of track record. To me, 90% of the blame re: the state of the Jets today falls on Tannenbaum.

  85. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jul 6, 2012 | Reply

    That’s funny, scjoe, I just got done complimenting you on the Hard Count story about your smart analysis of the pass coverage situation. Yeah, it’s always tough to accept that guys you’ve given the obligatory 3 yrs to might not be the guys you need. But myself, I’ve never entirely gotten that strain of sentimentality in Jet fans, though like I’ve said it reminds me of Yankee fans who could live for weeks on a few timely hits by White, Cater, and Kosco. I’d be just as happy seeing Hill and Kerley blossoming into great WRs with an entirely different QB at the helm than we’ve got on the roster now. As Otis Young so famously said to Jack Nicholson in THE LAST DETAIL, “I can’t take this [excrement]…INDEFINITELY!”

  86. By roger muller on Jul 6, 2012 | Reply

    i’ve learned a long time ago that you don’t have to have the besr players in the world so long as they play together. I’m not really a Mark Sanchez fan but you can’t call him a bust. People said the same thing about Eli Manning after three subpar seasons with the Giants and look where he is now. Sanchez has gotten the to the AFC championship game twice in first two years. Not too many QB’s have done that. This year will tell the tale. Under Tony Sparano Sanchez shoud flourish hopefully. Shonn Greene so far is a bust even though he had a thousand yard season. I hope he proves me wrong. He sure will get the opportunity.

  87. By ron alexander on Jul 7, 2012 | Reply

    S.CJoe & Tom64, Roger Muller just echowed my preveous comments on Sanchez. I know you are both right that he will never be Tom Brady or Drew Breeze. But Roger is right about the 2 AFC championship games he helped get us to. Like I said before, he deserves a chance to play behind a decent line with a O.C. who has a clue how to best use him. Hey, the guy rushed for the 2nd most T.d’s at the Q.B posisition last year(6) He had his best comp.%,most yardage and T.D’s (28) so he did make progress. I know the fumbles and interceptions were way too high, but a lot of that was the O.L and Schotty’s insistence on throwing too much. Sanchez does have good mobility and a good arm so there is something to work with there.

  88. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Jul 7, 2012 | Reply

    It’s Sanchez’s 4th yr, ron, so pretty soon these pretzel-logic discussions of whether he’s good enough or not will be over, as will hopefully be Rex’s tenure at HC. That’s why they got Tebow, because they know the natives in Jersey are restless…

  89. By punchie on Jul 10, 2012 | Reply

    TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW We may aswell have kept LT and promoted him to QB his percentages are through the roof. LOL

  90. By frank on Jul 17, 2012 | Reply

    i’m discusted as a long time jet fan , tannembaum has disrupted another year . we needed a decent ot and took a dt instead . i love marks arm stregnth , but getting sacked 4 times a game is unacceptable . i’m thinking a losing season this year and cleaning house next year .

  91. By ron alexander on Jul 17, 2012 | Reply

    FRANK, though I acknowledge you could be 100% right I think none of us want to have to go through a distarous losing season. If it happans we will obviously have to deal with it and I throughly agree with S.C.Joe who says that Tannenbaum should be the first to go. I know TOM64 is a Rex hater and so he will get his wish too if we do stink it up this season. On a more positive note, I think Sanchez will show improvement this year providing our O.Line is better. I truley believe the O.line is the key. As i have said many times here it was awful last year and was a big reason(not the only reason) Sanchez and S.Greene had so many problems.Go Jets!!!!

  92. By adrian on Jul 20, 2012 | Reply

    if the jets use tebow at other pos TE FB and run 2 or 3 WR sets then go to no huddle with tebow already on field against nickel D they will kill because D wont be able to bring extra LBs on like all teams do against wildcat. if they use tebow like that with plays blocking or running from FB plus wild cat plays with no huddle 20 snaps a game. it can work. plus our line will be so much better cause they will start all games by firing offf ball no 3 passes and out. first game look for 35-40 rshes. GO JETS

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