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Final 7 Cuts Announced, Roster’s Now at 53

Posted by Randy Lange on August 31, 2012 – 12:35 pm

Updated, 9:22 p.m. ET

The New York Jets have announced their final seven cuts to get their roster to the NFL’s mandated maximum of 53 players. This latest list of seven includes two more draft choices, RB Terrance Ganaway and WR Jordan White, and their former pro rugby-playing TE, Hayden Smith.

The seven players, all waived:

RB — Terrance Ganaway

WR — Royce Pollard, Jordan White

TE — Hayden Smith

OL — Paul Cornick

LB — Ricky Sapp

DB — Donnie Fletcher

These seven were the last of the Jets’ final cuts, joining 15 players that they waived to get their roster to 60 players. Those cuts were announced earlier in the day and included sixth-round rookie OL Robert Griffin, QB Matt Simms and veteran DE Jay Richardson. Here is that list of 15 players the Jets waived earlier:

QB — Matt Simms

WR — Joseph Collins, Eron Riley

OL — Robert Griffin, Fred Koloto, Matt Kroul

TE — Tarren Lloyd

DL — Jay Richardson, Martin Tevaseu

LB — Marcus Dowtin, Brett Roy

DB — LeQuan Lewis, D’Anton Lynn, Julian Posey

P — Spencer Lanning

All waived players must go through the NFL’s waiver system. Any players who are eligible for the practice squad and have cleared waivers Saturday afternoon can be re-signed by the Jets to their eight-man practice squad.

Also keep in mind that today’s 53-man roster can change throughout this weekend and next week if the Jets add other players as free agents or on waivers. The 53 players currently on the roster practiced at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center today and then got the weekend off before they will return Sunday night for the first practice of the week Monday before the season opener vs. Buffalo on Sept. 9.


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174 Responses to “Final 7 Cuts Announced, Roster’s Now at 53”

  1. By GaryC on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    jets have to do a story on the anatomy of a touchdown,things are slow.finding a jet touchdown is like trying to find a dinosaur fossil.

  2. By GaryC on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    speaking of fossils,I guess our starting linebacker group has survived again.

  3. By IRA on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    Well hope they sign Dowtin to the PS like i thought. Richardson they did wrong by. It reminds me of when Bobby Hamilton had a great summer and was cut and got p/u by another team and had a very good year. This was a mistake.

  4. By rw on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    Randy, any update on Rotati Pitoitua? I was excited by his prospects before his knee injury. Thanks.

  5. By Randy Lange on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    rw, Ropati Pitoitua was waived by the Jets on May 2 of this year. He has been with the Kansas City Chiefs this preseason.

  6. By Jason on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    Marvin Mcnutt (Eagles) just waived. Big, good hands, catches everything. Red zone target (if we ever get there). SIGN HIM!!!

  7. By Jerry Silver on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    You said that 15 were cut but you only listed 13 players.

  8. By Randy Lange on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    To Jerry, Adam Douglas and others, you are correct. The names of Fred Koloto and Matt Kroul were inadvertently deleted from the OL entry before posting. The list has been corrected.

  9. By scjoe on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    Not a whole lot of surprises there. I hope to see Harrison, Dowtin, and Lolyd end up on the PS. I would think that at least two of them will be….unless claimed by someone else, especially Harrison.

  10. By carl on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    GET CHRIS COOLEY!!!!!

  11. By Jimmer on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    Riley and Richardson will be picked up by someone else. And I would not be suprised in the least to see NE pick up Simms until we play them.

  12. By scjoe on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    They say hindsight is 20/20 and they say that for a very good reason. BUT, how would Vontaze Burfict have looked now had he been taken in Griffins spot? What’s worse is he could have also been selected with one of the compensatory picks. I know how much you hate a “problem child” GaryC, but watch this kid during the year. That is of course, he don’t get caught up in the numbers game in Cincinnati, in which case we should absolutely jump on him.

  13. By jet fan jay on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    just saw n.e. cut branch ! pick him up right now ! he can play ! he can help with the pats games ! he is a valuable tool ! get him ! get him right now !

  14. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    Amazing that we don’t even end up keeping the only OL that we drafted last yr. But no, let’s be happy with what we have, the brilliance of Mr T and Rex…

  15. By scjoe on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    Looking at the cuts so far, and daydreaming at the same time. Two names pop up 1- Hoyer (NE QB) and Koppen (NE C) Koppen is 32, “IF” he can be had for the vet minimum that would be a good option. It would mean we actually have an established b/u center. Hoyer?? Just dreaming, because I know (under the circumstances, it will not happen)

  16. By Eli Rodriguez on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    IMO I would’ve kept the taller ERON RILEY over some of the other receiver, he had a good camp and didn’t drop as many as others did. I enjoy G-mac out there, the o-line was good too, lets continue it.

  17. By danny on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    Cutting Jay Richardson really bothered me, the guy had a great preseason and looked like he could help us in some role on D. He’s a good football player and Rex talks about keeping good football players why did he let this guy go ??

  18. By SCfromNY on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    I guess any hope of seeing Tebow on the list of cuts is silly.

  19. By john t on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    Please pick up a WR

  20. By SCfromNY on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    I wonder about some of the cuts. Perhaps the Jets are planning on bringing players back to the practice squad if they cannot find anything better. On all the other threads the theme in many is wait for the season, the defense will be #1, and somehow our QBs will show something they haven’t shown since training camp started. McElroy must be counting his days until he can leave. Unfortunately I think this will be the most frustrating year yet. The #1 offense will wear down in the 4th quarter because they are always on the field. The opponent will score 14pts. The Jets will then try to switch to an ariel attack and we will se a pick six. This is not just negativity. NOTHING has been shown offensively to challange this.

  21. By SCfromNY on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    Just to finish up. I have no problem with Rex staying. He is a good defensive mind and I certainly enjoy his over the top news conferences. If he stays HC we need to bring in a OC who realizes what it takes to win today. It was over 10 years ago when we had Parcells who absolutely loved to run the ball BUT he realized even then you need to throw it now. Said it before; keep Rex as DC and have Gruden as HC. Please no love affairs with an old Steeler’s HC who also thinks you win by running the ball. As a plus I would not have to listen to Gruden on Mondays.

  22. By Frank Cuomo on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry to see J. Richardson going

  23. By Dr. Frank Falcone, Jr. on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    I thought Simms would be a lock for the practice squad….

  24. By Bennett on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    Really bugged me to see T-baum doing the interview during the game. There he is all smiles and giddy to be on the TV and that announcer is just fawning all over him.”ohhh and ahhh”n him GIVE ME A BREAK The first thing I would have said is how to you feel about the state of your offense being the 1st team in 35 years not to score a TD in the 1st 3 pre-season game? Whats this stuff about T-BAUM MAKING THE CALL ON WHO GETS CUT ? CAN YOU IMAGINE T-BAUM TELING PARCELLS WHO TO CUT?.. OR BELICHECK ? like to see that happen …Go sharpen you pencile this is for football people not bean counters .. what the heck is going on with this franchise?

  25. By Bennett on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    For those of you who thought McElroy was so great as far as scrambling on just about every other down I will quote the great Tuna Parcells ” WHEN I SEE THAT ALL I SEE IS A BUSTED PLAY”

  26. By Bennett on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    Star Wars guy excuse me for getting a little negative. BUT the Jets scored a grand total of 31 points in 4 pre-season losses with one TD by their 3rd string QB. T-baum is smiling and happy as all get go on the TV the idiot booth guy doesn’t say a word and. Sanchez is all jokes and smiles with Tebow on the sideline…yeah you bet I feeling a little negative. THEY AVERAGED LESS THAN 8 PTS A GAME WITH ONE TD BY THE 3RD STRINGER… 8 POINTS ! 1 WHOLE TD….. Joe where are you man?

  27. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe, why suggest picking up Hoyer? Didn’t you learn anything from the wasted pick for O’Connell? And why do you think stealing signals from the Pats has the slightest chance of keeping them from crushing us twice this season? Bennett, the difference with McElroy — and Parcells would agree — is that instead of waiting for fans to make excuses for him, like they do for Sanchez after sacks, McElroy has the poise and presence to make something out of a busted play. On plays that go smoothly, of course, he looks light yrs ahead of Sanchez, just like he did last summer. And Tebow doesn’t even rate a mention in this context, it’s pure Pop Warner when he’s at QB. But MS and TT’s downfalls could be Mc’s opportunity, so I’m okay with that.

  28. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    So much for White and his brilliant small-college record, and his chronically injured foot. But cutting him leaves us with Holmes, Kerley, and Schilens all hobbled and just Hill and Turner for healthy WRs of any real potential. Add to this that we cut 3 of our picks on O in the draft, including the promising Ganaway, and the reign of ineptitude on O continues. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a few of these guys stick on the practice squad or develop into gamers somewhere else. Just more evidence that Rex not only doesn’t care about O and doesn’t understand it, but is worthless when it comes to developing guys to play it.

  29. By MJ on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    This is a hit or miss year for Tannebuam. If the Jets do not finish at least 500, I think he should be gone; especially if the Right tackle spot does not work out. Plus his depth in the draft has not been good.

  30. By GaryC on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    jordan white,ganaway and griffin,yeah,I guess the jets couldn’t keep all their picks,white wasn’t better then turner or even shilens,and they would keep connor over Ganaway,but we still have scott,thomas and pace,I guess they will retire as jets.

  31. By GaryC on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    I guess ganaway was cut for ruining the jets perfect record of not scoring a touchdown in preseason.

  32. By Uncle Joe on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    Ganaway is better than the Terminator, he reminded me of T-Rich. He is more of a threat running the ball and catching out of the backfield,should’ve parted ways with Conner instead.

  33. By Ray Carey on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    Sanchez is a neer do well quaterback that cannot lead a flock of sheep. Tebow is a future TV evangelist. Mike Tannenbaum doesn’t even try for an offensive tackle in the draft when last season we had a “Please Rush Here” sign at right tackle. But we’ll fool them all with the wildcat if only Tebow will wear a Mark Sanchez disguise when he comes in. I remember the days of Joe Willie Namath. Oh the pain, the pain!

  34. By ethan on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    I agree, get Branch form N.E.

  35. By Ray Carey on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    PS Please Please Please sign Plaxico and trade for a real right tackle and give Sparano a six month vacation in Miami.

  36. By Ira from Wantagh on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    Which RB, TE, WR, and punter- should we pursue?

  37. By Ira from Wantagh on Aug 31, 2012 | Reply

    I partially agree with Rex, this might be the best defense since he’s been coaching our J-E-T-S but the offense that’s another matter! Without waiver pickups as I mentioned above we will be lucky to win 8 games. That includes using the “undercover wildcat with the great(?) Tim Tebow.

  38. By danny on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Bennet it’s only preseason who cares. I’m sure if these games meant anything Sanchez wouldn’t be smiling. Who cares what we avg per game do u not remember when Spurrier took over the Skins coming from florida and put in the Fun n Gun ?? The Skins went 4 – 0 preseason and were putting up 30pts a game. Well they finished 2 – 14 and avg I believe around 14pts a game in reg season. Preseason means nothing at all and you can’t go by anything ur team does in the preseason and that is a fact. Eli Manning threw 1 TD in 4 games this preseason do u think he will avg 1 TD in every 4 games in reg season ???. I agree with Rex we will be fine and all we need is 17 – 20 pts a game with our D to win a lot of games this yr. Wayne Hunter is gone bro

  39. By walterthewhale on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Born a NY Football Giants fan in 1942 and heavy into NFL since watching Cleveland Browns win Championship in their first year approx 1951. Played alot and know the game well. Converted to Jets and attended first ever Jet game in Sept 1964 so lifetime Jets fan thats has seen more bad coaching that good ( including Charlie Weiss). Just one good season in early days and 15 recent years of solid coaching starting around 1997.
    My forecast is that new OC is fired before the halfway mark.

  40. By Mike Jet Vet on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    I see Mike -T and Rex decided to keep Powell, I believe he’s a sleeper… Anyone one catch the joy on face on Rex when Folk hit that Field goal , you’d think he just won a super bowl, Best have a medic on hand in case we win a game,

  41. By jim rossiJDRR22@AOL.COM on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    NO O LINE EQUALS NO OFFENSSE

  42. By wayne on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    I believe a guy with digits in his moniker wants McElroy for his starting QB and Sparano for his HC……………………………….He’ll argue that his comments were about the issue of the #2 QB spot, but knowing him, as I’ve come to here , I’d beg to differ………………..

  43. By IRA on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Really no surprises at the final 53 for now. Epps like i thought took Baker’s spot and i am not sold that Schilens will be here after the Bills game. One thing is that D. Harrison has made the 53 for now. He showed some promise this year but what worries me about them keeping him is that Pouha might not be ready to go for next week. This will be something to keep an eye on as the Bills game gets closer.

  44. By GaryC on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    so our roster consists of 3 nose tackles,one 5’8 corner,5’9 corner and a5’10 corner and 3 tightends who are the same,they can catch but can’t block.there will be a lot of tweaking of this roster.

  45. By kevin h on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    redskins just waived hightower, better scoop him quick. also, jordan white is a much more polished receiver than stephen hill, maybe his college team could throw the ball. bad miss there rex, u could have cut that bust of a lineman u got from rams instead and kept the other 3.75 million, given it to revis. what happened to our tight end #45 who got his knee turned inside out in game 3???????????

  46. By lito on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    we should go after tim hightower…the redskins were foolish to let him go…him and greene would be great….

  47. By GaryC on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    wallterthewhale,seeing that you go back to those days of Mac Speedie,Marion Motley and Dub Jones,you know what looking at great football is all about,do not look at this current jets team,you will be disappointed.

  48. By SCfromNY on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    The posters who believe that the jets will be able “to turn it on” when the season begins amaze me. The difference between the Jets and Eli’s season is they did score some points and based on what they had last year they are confident that they could win. Based on last year and this preseason what do the Jets have to be confident about. I hope some of the cuts return to practice squad, especially Jordon. The last 2 years I have been shaking my head at the player moves and coaching. Please pick up some youth at LB, speed at RB, proven WR, and OL depth. Maybe a few taller corners. I saw the Browns released a TE named Gronkoski. Maybe we could pick him up and confuse teams. Tebow for RB,TE, or FB. Anything but QB.

  49. By harry-o on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    0-4 preseason
    0 TD’s first team
    no place to go but up, but when ?
    MS ” good between the 20’s” big deal, any team gets to the red zone
    this team scares no one right now
    perhaps this team is like a dam ready to burst, let’s hope so
    stats between the 20’s mean nothing if you’re not scoring
    break out against buffalo its time

  50. By GaryC on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Do the jets receive tax breaks from the government for carrying AARP members on their roster.

  51. By Trino on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    You need to bring that tall WR Plaxxico back…PERIOD!

  52. By RAFAEL R. on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    WELL I AGREE WITH SOME BUT NOT ALL I WOULD LIKE THE JETS TO HAVE GIVEN TO PLAYERS A BETTER LOOK AT RB GANAWAY AND ONE THAT I THING WILL RISE UO IS QB MATT SIMMSAND THE LINEBACKER TOWTINS THATS ALL.

  53. By don on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    hey randy, have you heard if there”s any intrest from the jets on w/r donte stallworth or r/b tim hightower

  54. By dougmc on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    McNutt from Eagles is a good call Jason. Jordan White should at least be on practice squad. Just beat the Bills week 1 and we should get 9 or 10 wins. If we loose week 1 that.s a diferent story. Then I will panic like the rest of you neigh sayers. Until then the Jets aren’t as bad as the media and pre season records would have us beleive.

  55. By hb on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Why cut Ganaway? The only guy to score a TD all pre-season, meanwhile the human fumble Joe McKnight and the waste of space John Connor get to keep there jobs. Rex and Mike need to admit when they’ve made a mistake in the draft…exhibit A-Vladimir Ducasse still clogging up a roster spot.

  56. By Keith on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    I wish they were still pursuing Fasano from Miami. He would be a great fit considering the Jets preseason TE injuires. He can block and would make a great secondary TE to Keller.

  57. By rq on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    bring back westerman

  58. By Howie D on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Reality check. 8-8 last season. Have we improved to a playoff team? I’m hoping the little we’ve seen this preseason is by design and not by default. Rex’s being confident and coy. We play for keeps now, and we’ll know soon if all the pundits and the many fans with reservations are wrong and Rex is right, that we’re better and poised for success. We shall see!

  59. By Tom Thomas on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    I was hoping Matt Simms might get the strength to prevail and stick with the team. I know he is mostly got there by virtue of his Dad’s influence but I still wanted to see that he could make it on his own. He has had a great pedigree and mentoring from his father and brother but still this was not enough to make it in the big, bad world of the NFL.

  60. By scjoe on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    64, I suggested picking up Hoyer because he is better then anything we currently have on this roster. By the way, 2 other points of interest. Do you remember, along with GaryC the conversation we had right after the April draft about the WR selections? Remember how high both you and GaryC were on both Hill AND White? Remember me mentioning to you “IF” White even makes the roster?? Second point, did you both happen to read the article at NFL.com where Rex stated he did not want the Hill pick?? He was concerned with his lack of production in college? BUT, it was forced on him by Mr Wonderful in the GM chair. I have been telling people all along, “Rex Ryan does not have the final say in personnel decisions” That my friends,is 1 of the problems

  61. By RON ALEXANDER on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Did anyone else read yesterday or todays “Bleacher Report’? another scathing indictment of our clueless leader Tanny! I am gratified that the press is picking up on the fact that he is indeed the problem. I am equally distressed to read that he and Woody(PSL)Johnson are as thick as thieves and that Tanney is beyond reproach for at least the next 5 years or untill Woody sells the team?Yikkkkkes! That scares me more than anything, another 5 years of Tannenbaum! Bennett, i had the same sick feeling you did watching that interview! Ira, I agree Richardson deserved to make this team.GARY C, hard to believe we cut guys who could help us on specials now and as regulars in the near future to keep guys like Pace and Thomas?????

  62. By scjoe on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Danny, I agree with out a doubt that preseason means nothing. But it does tell you a few things. What this particular preseason tells us is the depth on this team, particularly on offense, is just about nonexistent. The caliber of play from our 2s and 3s was off the charts compared to the 2s and 3s of the 4 teams we faced. It also tells me that the confidence level, again, particularly on offense, has to be at an all time low. I find it hard to believe, after an offensive performance like the one we just witnessed this preseason, that you can just throw the switch on and go out and reverse the trend in the regular season opener. There has to be some carry over. Again, sure hope I am wrong.

  63. By scjoe on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Hard for me to understand the sentiment over Ganaway. He was #4 on a core of 4 sub par RBs. Which of the other 3 would you have cut? It was just another bad pick to begin with. To the optimists, sorry again about that little piece of negativity, but in this case it is truly reality. Not knowing the credentials of EVERY FA available now, I would still say it is not going to be easy to go out and upgrade many starting spots. But God knows almost anything will upgrade the depth at many b/u spots.Not to beat still another dead horse, but what does it say about your GM when “almost” half of your draft picks don’t make the final cut?

  64. By scjoe on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    What may fall into the “best player available category” even though I know there are more pressing issues at other positions, here is a name some of you may remember from the Bengals preseason game, Roddrick Muckelroy, the ILB who played very well against the Jets 1s. My son, who is a diehard Bengals fan was a little upset with his being cut. I like the signing of Gates from Miami, not sure about the TE and the NT though. I suppose the tinkering will continue right through the upcoming week.

  65. By Jet Blue on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    SCNY: In one post you support Rex as the HC, yet in another you shake your head at his decisions. That’s what many of us do, shake our heads. Rex may be a good DC, but certainly not a HC. McElroy should be playing QB, not MS and not TT. Rex, as the HC, should be able to see that. How many more draft picks is Rex going to cut? Does he even watch cllege football? His press conferences may be entertaining to the media, but to me they are just another indicator of the many qualities he lacks. Being able to start and complete an intelligent sentence being one of them. I’m waiting on this Buffalo game Rex keeps talking about. I guess then we’re all going to see this secret weapon offense he’s been keeping under wraps. I wish!

  66. By danny on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Scjoe Hoyer is better then Tebow that’s it. Be realistic I know u don;t believe in Mark but both him and Mac are better then Hoyer by a lot

  67. By kk on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Well boys have you seen the latest, they cut dixon and pickup a miami hand me down and a receiber miami cut. If there is ome thing i know miami doesn’t have any receivers so what in the world are theythinking, ro make matters worse therams picked up ganaway.
    I’m a huge fan but these guys are proving they have no idea of what they are doing. This is very frustrating it’s like they want to get fired. Just ridiculous.

  68. By SCfromNY on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Looking over some of the other teams signings. Jets pick up 2 maimi rejects including a WR that couldn’t stay on a Maimi team with almost no WRs. Trying to keep some hope alive but based on what seen I’m not feeling very good. At Tanny is consistant, his “mini draft” is not very good either. He missed it, the Rams cut Gholson maybe we could give him another shot? Are we looking to 2013 for some really high draft picks? Sporanos secret O: back to 1975. The wildcat surprised people but like Tebow at QB was soon made ineffective.

  69. By john t on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    I can’t understand why we are not picking a good WR Plax, NE just released Three WR’s

  70. By john t on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    is D Branch, Donte Stallworth or Jabber gaffney still open if they are what are we waiting for how about Cooley from washington i don’t get what they are doing. We need to Give mark some weapons. WE need someone next to Holmes that has played more than 2 plays

  71. By john t on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Ganaway looked good they cut him this will come back and kill us like Woodhead. I don’t get the jets year after year they miss on good players and let good ones go. Ganaway will be signed and will be a beast… Maybe shonn green can hit the holes faster than 8 seconds

  72. By Bennett on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Danny I see your point but we are talking about the 1st team in 35 years not to score a TD in the first 3 pre-season games… 35 years. That last team was the Atlanta Falcons and the eneded up 7-7 reg season,only because the had an excellant Defense .Sound familiar? Sorry to see Ganaway go, guess he did not impress in camp looked pretty good in the game, I think that kid could have contributed, seems to have good hands got that low center of gravity running style and looks tough. Hope he gets a shot somewhere.Someone did the W-L this season, think it was Spicer, made sense at the time would have to re think it after seeing that offense in action

  73. By GaryC on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    the jets will need to get clearance from the nfl to bring wheelchairs on the field for their linebackers and step ladders for their munchkin corners.

  74. By IRA on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Clyde Gates is a very interesting p/u. If McKnight can’t go next week Gates will handle the KO’s and lets hope they aren’t too many. Dixon was a cost saving cut which i think is not a big deal. I felt Richardson out played him anyway over the summer. So here is the question if you believe Gates can fill McKnights KO spot do they now bring in an upgrade at RB and move on from McKnight? They blew one chance when they didn’t go after Benson.
    So here is an early prediction for next week.
    Bills 17- Jets 27!!!!
    GO JETS!!!!!

  75. By since shea on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe, if you are right about Rex not wanting Hill for lack of experience and that Mr.T (and Woody) are making football decisions, then we are screwed for a long time. How is this ridiculous media (espn) calling out Rex for saying he thinks this could be his best team? What do you want him to say? That Mr T failed to give us quality players? That Woody/Mr T wanted the Tebow circus? That my boss doesnt know what he is doing regarding talent evaluation? I have said and I believe that Rex is just the “good soldier” managing through the Mr T decision making mess. Bennett, I agree with your position about that ridiculous Mr.T interview. Sickening to see him given soft questions despite the poor state of affairs. Its Sad.

  76. By GaryC on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Antonio Allen cut,At this rate just say the jets are the new over the hill gang,no need for draft choices,Soon,No need for Tanny and the scouts either.I follow college ball and who are these guys they signed.

  77. By GaryC on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    what do we have now,four nose tackles,that should help with the pass rush.

  78. By GaryC on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    the scouts scoured the country,high and low as a precursor to the jets mini draft,and these are the three guys they came up with,I would have preferred,Moe,Larry and Curley.Yuk,Yuk,Yuk,which is what this is,these guys sound like the guys I say the jets bring in for training camp fodder.

  79. By scjoe on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    I stand corrected on a statement above when I said that “almost” half your draft class don’t even make the final cut. After further review it is now EXACTLY half of the draft class. How terribly sad is that. Oops, once again, sorry optimists about THAT, little piece of negativity, which by the way also falls into the truly reality category. Oh Danny, I don’t stand corrected on Hoyer though. Although that is one that can’t be answered for quite some time.

  80. By scjoe on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Randy, can you please tell me the status of Damon Harrison (NT)? I thought I saw his name on the cuts the first day, but since, his name don’t appear on any of the lists on any of the sites. If he did in fact make the roster, that waiver pick up from Miami (NT) would really be another head scratcher.

  81. By Bobby G on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Richardson really?? guy would of been a playmaker! I am really starting to think they get a board with names on it and throw darts to see who gets cut!

  82. By scjoe on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    since shea, I am absolutely, positively correct about Rex’s statement that he didn’t want Hill in that spot. It completely boggles my mind how an owner can allow a GM (A GM who really don’t have a clue about talent evaluation) to force a pick, especially that high of a pick on a HC who happens to know much, much more about NFL talent then he does. Say what you want about Rex’s lack of involvement with the offense, I am talking about the roster in general. That is a big part of the problem that has been in place since T Bomb took over the GM spot.

  83. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    danny, one reason I originally questioned whether you ever played football and how long you’ve followed the Jets is you sometimes show little grasp of the history not only of football but of this team. Preseason isn’t the regular season but teams that show no improvement at their trouble spots in pre almost NEVER improve during the season. The first Sanchez yr he and Clemens had a battle-of-the-shaky-novices for the job and everyone knew MS was getting it anyway. 3 yrs in a row after that the O looked awful in pre and ultimately let us down in the regular season, what with embarrassing, no-O games vs. BAL and GB and a 24-0 deficit at the half in the PIT playoff. You need to process and analyze more data or you’ll always be in the dark.

  84. By scjoe on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Ira, once again I have to admire your never ending optimism. But 27 pts in the opener? I completely understand that the preseason meant nothing, but do you honestly believe that this team will just be able to throw on the switch and reverse that trend that quickly? Considering how vanilla everything was in the preseason, from both our team and the opposing teams, don’t you believe the O line play leaves a lot to be desired? Are you truly and honestly that comfortable with it? Especially against the Bills front?

  85. By ScfromNY on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Ira . . . 27-14??? Maybe with the Bills scoring 27 when the Jet D is gassed. What makes you think a team that scored ONE touchdown in 4 games can hang 27 on the new improved Bill defense? Realistic and hopeful, Jets 13 Bills 10!

  86. By L. J. COULTHURST on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Im a William Penn alumni and i am thrilled for Damon Harrison. Congratulations! Good luck and keep up the hard work.

  87. By Karan on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Why in the world would you cut Antonio Allen and Maarcus Dixon, they both have so much potential. I heard really good things about Allen.

  88. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    The line of the day, hands down: “I guess Ganaway was cut for ruining the Jets’ perfect record of not scoring a touchdown in preseason.” And it comes on a day when Rex sniffs at the idea of drafting “a wideout” high, even though “wideouts” — and of course elite QBs — drive the league these days. wayne, you talkin’ to me? (in my best DeNiro, and I AM half-Italian). Like I said yesterday, the QB competition this yr shoulda been Sanchez/Mc/Orton or Campbell. That woulda told us whether we should stick with one of those guys or draft a new QB next yr. Getting Tebow just wastes the yr at QB. As for Sparano, interim HC is all I’d back for him. And hey walterthewhale, welcome, and I’m intrigued by your idea that Sparano goes and not Rex mid-yr.

  89. By Karan on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Very questionable “minidraft”, this GM’s got to go.

  90. By Karan on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    With the exception of Joe McKnight, Patrick Turner and Yeremiah Bell, why do they keep signing people that Mark knew from USC like this new tight end and Miami Dolphin players which obviously is a Sparano factor. Nothing against Mark and Sparano but Mark’s not going to develop chemistry right away with this Konrad fella just because they were both at USC, and Mike T needs to evaluate his draft picks and signings better because he continues to make to NYJ roster look like the 2011 dolphins roster. You released 4 draft picks? Really? I can understand OL Robert Griffin and WR Jordan White, but S Antonio Allen and HB Terrance Ganaway seemed like they could contribute, Allen more than Ganaway.

  91. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Pouha should never have been re-signed for that many yrs and that kinda $, Ira, like I told you at the time, but that was when Mr T and Rex still thought we’d be vying for the Lombardi Trophy this yr. scjoe, I wasn’t quite as high on White as I was and am on Hill but no question, part of the problem is our HC isn’t in control of the draft enough. The bigger problem is that our HC doesn’t deserve to be in control of the draft at all, he has no idea how the game is played on O these days and is the worst developer of young players in Green and White since Lou Holtz. Jet Blue, my next post will pick up on your thoughts on Rex not starting Mc. (You’ll like this one, RON A, as it’s based on recent history Jet fans should recall.)

  92. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Jet Blue, one of Rex’s biggest defenses of his suspect knowledge of O when he came here (it looked ONLY suspect THEN, now it looks pitiful) was his story about being the only one who voted to start Flacco when he did, and I give him credit for that (even if Flacco’s strengths and flaws mirror Sanchez’s so exactly that it’s eerie!). In line with scjoe’s thinking, I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if Rex, even with his Stone Age views of O, knows damn well that Mc is a potentially better QB than either Sanchez or Tebow. But if MS and TT were imposed on him by Mr T via an owner who likes headlines more than wins, there’s not much Rex can do — other than turn down a job that comes with too many conditions, like keeping Schotty. But he didn’t.

  93. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    This is runner-up for best line of the day: “The Jets will need to get clearance from the NFL to bring wheelchairs on the field for their linebackers and step-ladders for their munchkin corners.” Yeah, I’ve long wondered why Rex, whom we’re told “loves CBs” (a) Can’t seem to develop any (why did Jackson “make the team” on HARD KNOCKS, then get cut?; is Wilson gonna shine this yr or not? (b) Seems very interested in CBs who are under 6 ‘, which is really stupid, and (c) Does nothing but talk about Revis but can’t build a team with a good enough O to convince Revis to remain a Jet. Just more of what Emily Hoge wrote about re how Rex embodies the all hat, no cattle style of our times. (That gal made the record books with that one article!)

  94. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Ira, what are you smoking today? You think the Jets should dump the leading KO returner in the NFL — the only fresh Pro Bowler we’ve had in recent yrs — without ever really trying him as an outside runner? And you’re impressed with a guy with 2 catches for 19 yards on MIA, the team with even worse WRs than us now that they unloaded Marshall? If this is optimism, it’s on the level of Chamberlain’s optimism in 1939, i.e. completely divorced from reality. GaryC, a final tip of the hat to you today: It’s absurd that the Jets waited so late in the draft to address S, more absurd that they couldn’t pick 2 S’s that would stick, so they end up grabbing over-the-hill or never-was guys at S. Brady and the Pats are shaking in their boots, I’m sure.

  95. By Bennett on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Hayden Smith cut? Oh what a surprise? OH NO ! How could this happen I MEAN HE PLAYED RUGBY FOR HEAVENS SAKE.. I MEAN THIS WAS SUCH A GREAT IDEA…so big and fast… don’t the use the same ball ? So what if he never played a down IN HIS LIFE and was trying out for the NFL he is so big and fast… bet the Pats grab him..I can foundly recall the debates we had when he was first signed. I am sure some of you have conviently forgotten them now. Who me ? Nah… Not me, never, ever thought he could play you got the wrong guy amigo… wrong broski dude wasn’t me We won’t mention names you know who you are and I know who you are

  96. By Bennett on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    I distincly remember one post that tried to explain why he would be a starter and it was such great move and so awesome and all about how the have heavy duty contact in Rugby and all that and how the two sports compliment each other,,, I thought at the time ahhhhh loooordeee gimeeeee a breaaaak pleaseeee lordeeeee gimeeeee that sweeeeet breaaaaak for heavanssss sake… have you ever actually seen a Rugby game ?

  97. By GaryC on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    I would love at the next news conference one of the reporters asks tanny,why is it that the giants have more draft picks that make their roster in drafting last then you do in drafting before them.

  98. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Because the Giants have a GM who knows something about football, GaryC, and a HC who values results on the field over one-liners off of it.

  99. By Jake98660 on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    I’ve been against bringing back in plaxico, but as the pre-season progressed and the few times The first team got into the redzone, Not a single player could get open. I don’t have to state how bad of a situation that leaves the Jets in. Plaxico is obviously not going to hel pus in between the twenties but in the Redzone this guy could be the missing ingrediant. I say bring him in, what do we have to lose. This offense couldn’t be worse in the redzone. We did lead the league in redzone efficiency last year and plaxico was a huge reason for that. His 3 td’s against San Diego were not a mmistake.

  100. By scjoe on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    64, so your half Italian? I knew you weren’t “half bad” LOL. I am an FBI myself. By the way, your dead on about the fact that Rex has to know McElroy (or a few other options out there for that matter) is a better fit then what he has now, BUT, his hands are not just tied, but handcuffed as well. That is a recipe for disaster. Kind of like the women owner of a large auto repair shop telling the mechanics what type of tools they have to use.

  101. By RussT on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    Why is A Allen been brought up a few times on here as cut? Am I missing something?

  102. By punchie on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    KEEP GANAWAY TRADE THE TERMINATOR

  103. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    A key stat from ESPN, the kind that those who don’t really know how to evaluate QB play should pay attention to. When me, scjoe, and others talk about how inaccurate Sanchez is, this is what we’re talking about, and we don’t need ESPN to spell it out for us: “Mark Sanchez and Tim Tebow both struggled to find targeted receivers last season as each quarterback had a high number of overthrown incompletions. Sanchez had the third-most overthrown passes in the league last season with 84; Tebow had 55 overthrown passes but in slightly fewer than half the passing attempts as Sanchez.” All of which adds up to more reasons why McElroy, whom I haven’t seen overthrow or underthrow anyone on more than a handful of passes, deserves a shot to start.

  104. By Viveca on Sep 1, 2012 | Reply

    What’s going on? Half of our draft class gone already. We’ve gone from one extreme to another-We used to hang on to busts for years, like Gholston, but suddenly we’re just dumping our draft picks left and right. I heard all preseason what a find A. Allen was, maybe the steal of the draft, and now he’s cut, why? Then we pick up cast offs from Miami one of the worst team in football.They’re in desperate need of recievers, but the one they cut we immediately snatch. We now have four NTs, but no decent rb. I don’t understand the logic at all. Someone ‘splain’ it please…This team seems out of control!

  105. By bass53 on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    i cant believe they cut allen?? connor shouldve been cut ganaway is way more of a modern fullback… connor was too one dimensional but the “ground and pound ” is going to prevail.. with a under performing o line that was pretty much built for a more modern zone blocking scheme ..not a slobber knocker run it down your throat system they are presently installing .. i was hoping the jets brain trust would realize they were short on offensive firepower.. and try an upgrade at wr an rb.. perhaps they can run a two tightend set with keller and cumberland to hide their deficiencies at wr.. but they gotta protect the Qb so he can get the ball down field.. Mcelroy kind of reminds me of jake plummer mobility,vision,guts never say die stye

  106. By Mike Jet Vet on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Think I’m going to take up crocheting this season, I have a feeling it’s going to be far more exciting and less excruciating

  107. By AK_Jet on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Once again reading this blog depresses me. If I didn’t know this team as well as I do, I would think the majority of you doubters were talking about a team like the Cardinals or Rams. I should take names so when we steam roll into the playoffs I can remind you of your stance on the team after the PRESEASON!!! McElroy stay ready cause I have a feeling you could get a shot in the regular season and it will be the beginning of our dominance of the AFC.

  108. By Arte Olde School Section 327 on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    I can’t wait until we win the division one of these years and all you losers here eat crow!!! I love the three pick-ups this weekend. Especially the 260lb tight end from SF. Mark my words he will be starting within two years. Cutting this team down to 53 was hard boys and girls. I agree some of T-Bomb’s moves with regard to contracts are insane in the membrane – i.e. not good business OR football sense – like giving sachez more money and hunter etc etc etc.. BUT this team won the field IS going to surprise many so-called “experts”. Everyone who UNDERperformed last year will show BIG improve this year (thanks to bad coaching hello or actually goodbye and good riddance to Shotty.. Thank God we have Dunbar and others.. Jets DEF make playoffs!!

  109. By IRA on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe,
    Why 27 pts? Because it makes no sense and its the complete opposite thats why. Basically an egg all preseason is my reason for 27 pts. Listen if the Jets win 3-0 i will be happy.
    Tom, Yes McKnight is a very good return man but they don’t trust him to be a RB. Its too predictable when he is in you know they are going to run because they don’t trust him to pass block.
    Listen the success in the KO returns is more Westhoff than anything else. How is me they missed Leon well how has that worked out since he has left in the return game. Same can be said for Bates, Morton, Carter and you can go on and on. Do i like McKnight back there? Of course but if they could get a real solid RB that can give you 4 plus yds per carry i would make room.

  110. By Bennett on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Heres a kid plays JV, goes to footyball camp summers, works hard looks good gets to Varsity gets recruited by good schools, plays 4 years considered good enought to draft but signs undrafted than cut, Happens all the time , for every one that makes it into the NFL how many fail 10 ? 20? 100? So we sign Hayden Smith who never played a down in his life. We could have got a dedicated Tight End with years of playing for a close look. Like that kid 6′ 6″ 230 ran 4.5 made a small school name, undrafted, if we wanted a project. But no instead we go for a gimmick Rugby player and waste time and don.t give the longshot to a kid like this. This is the kind of stuff that bugs me about the Jets.

  111. By GaryC on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    jetfantom,you liked my comment of wheelchairs and step ladders,isn’t it the truth,isn’t it the truth.As for Damon Harrison out of William Penn college,he will have to go some to better the accomplishments of Wilbur Young,another graduate who played very well for the chiefs as a defensive end in their glory days.

  112. By GaryC on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe,you talk about ganaway being fourth among this group of runners,maybe so, but we have already seen what they can do and it isn’t much.Right now are backs consists of guys who fumble,can’t catch,no speed and can’t block for the quarterback,so I would of been willing to give Ganaway a shot.As jetfantom says this might be a rebuilding year.

  113. By SCfromNY on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    I think our problem with our 2s and 3s is that there is not enough money to develop them. The team spends so much on their marqui players it leaves little room for mid priced players. Just high priced and minimal with no in between. Many times I think Belicik is an ass but he refuses to let players dictate to him. If they want to be paid more than they are worth they are gone. He gets something for players that only have a year or 2 left. When it is all over the Jets FO is poor judges of talent. If this starts at the scouting department or just Tanny wanting his picks with little regard to what professional football minds want I don’t know. But there must be a reason we never uncover that draft “gem” or sign that surprising free agent.

  114. By russ on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    We have never replaced the quality of gurad play of Kendall and Faneca…any GM always builds from strength of OL and DL…we do one and forget the otherand we do so consistently….

  115. By Jack on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    I hope WR Gate was the right choice to get. But I would still rather see the Jets pick up another RB, Tim Hightower or Benson or even D.J. Ware. Don’t feel that Greene, Powell and McKnight are a complete package for the so call Ground and Pound.

  116. By BillsJets on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    I wish the Jets would wake up and smell the coffee and stop always keeping the wrong guys. The reason why the Giants do better every year is not only to they have players who are football smart, but they have size too. The jets problem is that they keep guys with speed but no size, it’s like watching a College football team playing against a high school football team. Jets coaching staff think people – size and talent versus small and quick, just not gonna happen.

  117. By Dr. Frank on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t mind them “cutting” their recent draft picks, but for JC’s sake, sign them to the practice squad and try to develop them. You just drafted them!!! If you are not going to sign them, you have to sign some proven vets and move some of your existing roster to practice squad. Upset that Ganaway didn’t make it and now I guess the Rams have him?? There are some vets out there that should be signed immediately. We need help at TE and I know I may get some flack here, but I would sign Kellen Winslow. Keller and Winslow might make a poor man’s Gronk and Hernandez for us. Sign Koppen to back up on the O-line and sign Branch or Stallworth. At least they can catch the ball!!!!! Still think we stay away from Chad Johnson, T.O and

  118. By Dr. Frank on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Plaxico for now. I think something must have happened with him that they are not saying. I initially thought they could sign him and just put him in the game in the Red Zone for potential TD’s. With Hill, they don’t need him to stretch the field, just use his big frame and “box out” DB’s. Also, I think that they should sign a backup OLB. I didn’t look too hard, but Jamal Westerman is out there. He was marginal, but at least he knows the defensive system. Would love a real blocking TE that could catch the ball in the mold of a Jake Ballard or Kevin Boss, too. At least this way, we could mix it up with 2 TE sets and throw the ball on occasion. Not sold on Hayden Smith…. The more I read these columns, the more I am beginning to

  119. By Dr. Frank on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    agree with you about Tanny. The only thing is that I have no idea about the Jets salary cap and how they can sign players and stay under it. I think if they wait and sign vets this week, they can save some money and maybe get some bargains. By the way, MTV was picked up by the Colts and I am sure someone will sign Richardson as he played well for us this Summer.

  120. By GaryC on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    sorry guys,why should rex have final say on the roster,that is for the general manager,If Ryan did not like the pick of Hill because of production,he would not have picked Calvin Johnson either,because of production.He gets a lot of production from Bart Scott,right,is that why he is still in the starting lineup.People use to kill the Mangenius,but him and Tanny worked better then this group we have now and the drafts were a lot better.

  121. By GaryC on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    someone tell me who is the fourth safety on this team after landry,bell, and bush.you are telling me eric smith makes the team again.

  122. By wayne on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ira, not possible for Jets to score 27 points…..I should not have to explain why….You need to explain to us how you see them doing that…..This Jets D although very good, has not shown a penchant for scoring on defense and I see no way their O can put up those type numbers on their own………Your McKnight assessment I can agree with. McKnight I’m beginning to lose some love for….With the little things he says that tells me he’s having some probs maturing. Jets can always find another returner….Besides not too good to give him the ball too often. He’s a fumble waiting to happen………..Aw well TBomb can always find Jets another 5th or 6th rounder to let go in another 4yrs…….

  123. By kk on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    We now have 4 NT’S, DOES ANYONE HAVE A CLUE OVER THERE? It just makes you wonder who is running the show.

  124. By danny on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Tom64 all I’m gona say is if you could not see that we were a play or 2 from making the playoffs last season and we were not a horrible football team. We had a few issues like Wayne Hunter and Eric Smith that hurt our football team but you see Tom64 you sit and say we can;t win in todays NFL with our style of Football yet we made 2 AFC championships with our style 2 out of last 3 yrs. To me seeing you say we are rebuilding and looking at 4 – 12 shows me you have no idea about the game of football and just try to come off as a know it all. I have told you that I was a All Long Island Football player and Coach HS football so yes I’ don;t have NFL credentials but I know the game of football very well

  125. By danny on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Guys like you 64 is why our team is a joke because fans of other teams hear a so called Jets fan like you talk about how bad our team is and how pathetic our coach is and how u know so much history yet you can’t appreciate that Rex has given us the most excited and feared football team since 1969 in NY Jets history. It’s guys like you that turns ppl off of this site because u bash our team and think u know everything there is about football. The sick thing is some guys look at u like a God on here. I will be back on this site at the end of the yr to call u out about ur so called knowledge saying we are rebuilding and 4 – 12 season. I can;t wait to call u out bro cause no way will we be that bad with the talent we have and NASTY D

  126. By Christopher on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Just based on the last 2 days it is clear Tanny has no clue what he doing. None. Pats released Digs..we need safety help (again, since we just released our 2 safety draft picks). Plus he will have info on the Pats…a no brainer, if he would be willing to come back to this circus.

  127. By Tom Spicer on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    I just got back from a 8 day vacation I took the kids to Disney. The way this Jet team looks I should have stayed in Florida. OH THE PAIN!

  128. By Jake on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    christopher, i don’t think we released josh bush, just antonio allen.

  129. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t doubt you’ll be back at the end of the season, danny, it’s week-to-week during the season that you’ll have trouble showing up for. But don’t waste my time with purely personal stuff, I speak to you with facts and analysis, you just get steamed. And THAT’S what’s really wrong with a lot of Jet fans, they feel too much and don’t think enough. And speaking of off-base thinking, where’d you get the idea that NFL fans diss Jet fans because they allegedly don’t support their team? Go on any Jet story any day of the week on any site but this one and Gang Green and you’ll hear NFL fans dissing Jet fans ’cause we’re pompous, gullible, and always predicting glory and falling way short…just like our HC, which is only one reason he has to go.

  130. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Agree on McElroy, scjoe, but I’ll add that if Susana Martinez, Mary Fallin, Nikki Haley, Kelly Ayotte, or Condoleeza Rice were running that auto shop, I’d feel in pretty good hands. (I’ll wait for next week to champion Dem women but they chased off a good one, and an Italian one, in the late Ferraro.) Ira, I can’t back Arte’s talk today of a glory yr but one of his big themes — and since the last TJ yr — is how Rex has no concept of outside running so of course we get no results there, and that’s as big a problem for McKnight as anything else. Viveca, I’d refer you to GaryC’s hilarious posts lately about our blindness to the age of some of our players. We seem to have largely decided that dry-aged mediocrity beats wet-aged potential.

  131. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    I’ll match you 2-posts-for-2 with this one, danny, though I’ll bet you could post 100 times and still sound like one of your greenest HS players instead of a coach. When are you going to step into the real world and drop the garbage about Rex, Mark, and our 2 championship games (losses)? What is so exciting to you about limping into the playoffs thanks to a bunch of breaks, looking utterly un-playoff worthy at many key pts during the season (BAL, GB, MIA, NE), and then showing up for only half of a title game? I think you said you’ve been following the team since the ’80s, but even some of what we did then was better than what we got now. And of course, back then we played like we’d discovered the forward pass, which Rex has yet to do.

  132. By scjoe on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    GaryC, why give Ganaway “a shot” when it has already been proven he can not even beat out ONE of the three sup par backs already on the roster? He may have been an alternative to Conner, but I’m not even sure he is the blocker that Conner is.

  133. By scjoe on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    GaryC, Am I understanding you correctly? You say that T Bomb should have the final say on this roster simply because he is the GM?? Let me throw these 2 examples at you. 1- Mat Millian…How did that one work out? He was the GM and he had final say on one of the absolute worse displays of player evaluation I have ever seen in any sport in my entire life. Is that OK simply because he was the GM? 2- Bill Belichek…He is the HC, he knows what his team needs, when it needs it, and goes out and gets it. He hasn’t done quite as bad as Millian has over the years with his W/L percentage. Sorry Gary, I have to agree with Rex, he knows what his team needs much more then T does. GM or not.

  134. By scjoe on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Danny, a little harsh wouldn’t you say? This franchise is considered to be a joke around the rest of the league, especially by their fans, partially because of the personnel moves that have been made, and partially because of some of the outrageous things that Rex has said over the past three years, but to say it is because of what Jet fans say on this site or any other site is a stretch, wouldn’t you say? Don’t get me wrong, I am a fan of Rex, but NOT of the current regime running the FO. THAT, is where the real joke begins.

  135. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Arte, my man, I notice that even you are leaving yourself a BIG out today — “when we win the division one of these yrs”? C’mon, Arte, I know exactly how long you’ve been rooting for this team, and you’re as tired of that Brooklyn Dodger-esque “one of these yrs” mentality as any of us. I (and I’m not alone in this) could put us on a 3-5 yr plan to become a dynasty (yes, I know we just talked the other day about how GaryC doesn’t think “dynasty” and “Jets” will ever occupy the same sentence), but it would mean a new owner, GM, HC, and an entirely new approach to personnel and how to groom and utilize players. In the absence of that kind of full-scaled makeover, I’m not exactly holding my breath for the day we overtake the Pats…

  136. By kk on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Allen just signed to the practice squad

  137. By Christopher on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    Jake, I think you are right, and Digs just got signed by Baltimore.

  138. By SCfromNY on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    I would give McKnight a better chance. He is the only speedy RB we have who can hit the hole fast while Greene is still accelerating. He can also run wide. Does he have a fumbling problem? Yes! But so did Tiki Barber and he had a pretty good career. McKnight like Barber should be able to excel in the screen game. The biggest difference is Tiki had a coach who taught him how to improve not one who Emmitt Smith to come out of retirement. I do like Rex but if a HC and not a DC he needs a relly good OC. I would have picked up McDaniels as soon as he was let go. Last years D didn’t scare anyone and our “ready to retire” LBs will bring the whole D down.

  139. By GaryC on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    jetfantom,did you read where that pro football personnel guy says Gates reminds him of David Clowney,just that he is a little more polished,Boy am I excited now.

  140. By GaryC on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    ROAD KILL,that is what you are going to see when a pulling guard comes out against the jets and he comes face to face with the 5’8 trufant.

  141. By GaryC on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    there must of been a sale on nose tackles,the jets are buying in bulk.

  142. By roger on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    I really don’t care about any of the players that were waived. But i can’t understand why the jets are keeping the wildcat so secretive. Don’t they realize that the players that go to another team will tell all. I don’t see the Jets going any where with the offense they have. They never looked that bad in pre-season. They might fool some teams for awhile but not for long. They need a Curtis Martin or a Ladanian Tomlinson at runningback. Wide receiver is another area to improve.
    Get Plaxico Burress back. The Defense looks medioca at best. It is not going to stop Tom Brady , Aaron Rodgers , Peyton Manning , Eli Manning or any other decent quarter back.

  143. By Mike Jet Vet on Sep 2, 2012 | Reply

    AK_Jet and danny , I’m one one these Fans you speak of, you chastise fans like myself and Tom 64 because we speak our mind, I had more years of optimism for this team then you have years on this earth sonny, You say hope we are here by seasons end,as you put it make us eat crow, Don’t worry about us we’ll be here will you ?? Let me explain something, I’ll speak for myself, I’ll be happy to eat crow if my team wins, I’ve said here on this site numerous times , I’m betting you won’t if we lose, Talk is cheap my friend I’m willing to back mine up, are you ?

  144. By chris long time fan on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    mcelroy was better last preseason and this preseason what happens to competition.rex made a mistake dont let it keep snowing balling..mcelroy has skills and a good arm and hes accurate.sanchez and tebow are 2nd stringers at best.

  145. By chris long time fan on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    tom did you she marks stats 51 interceptions and 29 fumbles in 47 games.

  146. By SCfromNY on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    It seems we are saying the same things over and over again, myself included. I believe it is the mounting frustration of a team that plays in a major market and refused to address the issues they have. Where were the obvious needs addressed? A WR with experience, a LB not on social security, backup CBs taller than Hobbits, dynamic TE, depth at OL. I am not as down on the OL as many. I have seen teams overcome suspect OLs and win as long as their QB plays well. maybe the Jets don’t run outside because they don’t like to embassas their LBs in practice.

  147. By SCfromNY on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    Randy, do some posts get deleted after initially seen? I read references to posts that I don’t recall reading. Thanks.

  148. By Randy Lange on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    SCfromNY, once a comment gets posted, it remains posted.

  149. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    I saw the Gates-Clowney comparison, GaryC, but of course I prayed that you didn’t. scjoe and MJV, I salute you for going up against danny’s preposterous argument — it must’ve been in a moment in which he lost his head, he can’t seriously mean it — that Jet fans are ridiculed around the league for failing to support their team. Actually, they’re ridiculed around the league for supporting the team at the moment because in the Rex era the Jets talk big and then underperform. chris long time fan, nice to meet another in the growing “McElroy Actually Has Instincts at the QB Position, So Why Is He in Back of Two Guys Who Don’t?” club. kk, I’m glad we got Allen back too.

  150. By GaryC on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe,with new england Pioli had the final say and don’t think anything different.as for Millan that is why he didn’t last,what about Ted Thompson in Green Bay,nobody answers to him.as far as ganaway,I guess he proved he couldn’t beat out the other backs,just like Danny Woodhead.

  151. By GaryC on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    Scjoe,why would I want rex making personnel decisions when he thinks Bart Scott is still a good starting linebacker.

  152. By Tom Spicer on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    chris long time fan, I already told you this I guess you still dont get it. Take hooked on phonics learn how to read & you will see Mark had 12 fumbles not 29.

  153. By scjoe on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    GaryC, sorry, Bill Belichek ALWAYS had “final say” on ALL personnel decisions. Did you notice there has not been any drop off in talent since Pioli is gone? And Millian? He did last, he lasted long enough to make the Detroit Lions the laughing stock of the free world, by picking WRs in the top 5 for what? 3 consecutive years? As for Scott? Honestly, I am not 100% sure that THAT is not a T Bum decision. Either way, this will be a telling year for him as well as many others, including coaching staff and FO. We hope!

  154. By Clarke W. Griswold on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    Also, I was one of the people who thought it was a good idea to take a shot on Hayden Smith. I’ll put my name on that, I thought and still think, it was low risk, high reward. The Jets could use a big, physical, bruising, TE and I thought, with time, developing on the practice squad, there might’ve been something to him. Alas, I was dead wrong and not ashamed to admit it one bit. That’s why I don’t get paid to put together football teams.

  155. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    GaryC, go back one story and read my post about how the proof of Rex’s inability (or in-“ablity” — where is HE lately, anyway>) to develop young players is the way he can’t even build guys at the three positions that he cares about most — RB, LB, and CB.

  156. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    Correction, GaryC, I meant go ahead one story.

  157. By GaryC on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe,look it up,the patriots won more super bowls under Pioli,ever since he left the patriots lose super bowls to the giants,ha,ha.As for scott, saying he is here do to tanny,wasn’t it rex who went to scott’s front door to please come to the jets,it wasn’t like he was getting the second coming of Nitschke.

  158. By GaryC on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    jetfantom, with the way rex treats the younger players,there has to be a link between him and the George Allen Redskins,somewhere.

  159. By chris long time fan on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    tommy no name calling just look at marks stat 10 plus 9 plus 10 is 29 you dont have to add them up they do for you.51 interceptions and 29 fumbles in 47 games are you rexs brother too both in denial lol

  160. By chris long time fan on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    go to roster click mark sanches click on picture and read stats .nothing left to say unless you have manners

  161. By Randy Lange on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    chris, I don’t like to step in on a subject unless asked, but to set the record straight and in case anyone is confused on Mark Sanchez’s career turnover numbers, he has fumbled 29 times in the regular season but a fumble is not a lost fumble and so it is not a giveaway. He has turned the ball over 63 times in his three regular seasons (51 INTs, 12 lost fumbles).

  162. By scjoe on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    GaryC, I am not a huge Scott fan, but I will say he played pretty well the first year the Jets signed him. He is getting long in the tooth like the other 2 starters at the LB position. And I will still stand my ground and say that is more T Baum then Rex. He has the final say!!! As for NE? Wouldn’t you love it if it were the Jets who GOT to the SB, only to lose to the Giants? I know I would. The only thing better would be to win it. You know, like NE has a few times in the past decade.

  163. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    That’s pretty funny, GaryC, because Allen’s Redskins are exactly the kind of team that Rex would reference favorably, right down to their slow cast-offs on D and a QB (Kilmer) whose arm wasn’t a shadow of its former self by the time Allen got him. Of course, it hasn’t occurred to Rex that the NFL has changed much since the early ’70s, which is why he’s always bringing up names like Jim Brown and Jim Nance, never names like Wesley Walker.

  164. By chris long time fan on Sep 3, 2012 | Reply

    learn something new everyday ty

  165. By GaryC on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe,I believe you have mentioned that you are a giant fan,how anyone can be a jet and giant fan is beyond me,so I guess you would be happy if the jets didn’t win super bowl,if the giants beat them.

  166. By scjoe on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    GaryC, 64, that band of over the hill renegades got to the promised land though, right? They may not have won it, but they got there.

  167. By Jet Blue on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    Danny: U really need take a reality check if you’re the Jet fan U claim to be. Watch other teams and see 1st hand where the Jets don’t compete. Other teams throw the ball down field. They have RBs who are patient & cut back or break it to the outside. They don’t advertise their play calling with their personnel changes on the field. Of the 4 teams in the division, the Fins, Bills and Pats have each had a domination period. Why not the Jets? Bad Organization. That’s not negative, it’s just the truth. Rex predicted a SB and didn’t even make the Playoffs. Nuff said.

  168. By GaryC on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe,why is it ok to get to the super bowl and lose,and not the afc championship game and lose,like sanchez has got the jets too,I guess your saying if the jets get to the super bowl and lose with sanchez that will be ok.

  169. By kleckofan on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    Took the weekend “off” from here…needed it.
    These are the camps I fall into:
    1) Fire Tannenbaum, he is the biggest cause of all that we complain about here;
    2) I like McElroy’s poise, presence and decision making a thousand times more than Mark’s (Timmy is not a real QB so no comparison);
    3) Neither Tanny or Rex have the ability to evaluate talent;
    4) I would love to get Gruden in here, he’d reverse 90% of the moves made in the past four yrs;
    5) I am in the realist camp, I love this team, but know we are dysfunctional and an anachronism;
    Today is “D Day” for my decision on DirectTv Sunday Ticket…I know I’m gonna do it, just don’t know why anymore

  170. By scjoe on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    GaryC, try to keep up! When in the name of everything holy did I EVER say I was a Giant fan??? Now, you may have heard me say I am a “SF Giant” fan (they who USED to be the NY Giants) but a NY FOOTBALL GIANT FAN?? Absolutely, positively, with out a doubt, NOT! AND, as I stated above, “the only thing better then getting to the SB and losing it would be getting to the SB and winning it. I don’t care if that loss happens to be to the Giants, the Packers, the Bucs, or anyone else. It would mean that at least they got there, and that is one step above losing the AFC championship game, that by the way, the team got to , NOT just MS.

  171. By scjoe on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    To further enhance that Gary, I wouldn’t care if it were Sanchez, McElroy, Tebow, or Johnny U coming out of retirement who took this team to the SB. You see, contrary to popular belief, I am not anti Mark Sanchez. I just haven’t seen the proof “so far” that he is the guy that will be able to carry this team on his shoulders, with the lack of offensive fire power that they have. He just is not capable of doing that. He may be able to get the job done if everything around him was at an all time high. It is not!

  172. By SCfromNY on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    I’m sorry gary but you can be a Jet / Giant fan. They are both NY teams. The are in seperate divisions and play each other only every 4 years, no conflict there. The chances that you would have to seriously pick one or the other because they are both in the SB . . . You could get great odds on that. They both have went from good coaches to bad to OK. The both brought in coaches in love with older players from there previous team. See Reaves with Giants. Big difference the Giants had a player that changed the league. The real LT. I’m sorry Namath is too long ago. i lived on L.I. in those days and you could meet him,and otherjets at Bill’s Meadowbrook for drinks after home games. If the Jets ever won a second SB he would not be an icon.

  173. By GaryC on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    SCfromNy,you might root for both,but I can never do it.same with baseball,same with hockey.I never got into that thing about the teams being from Ny and you root for them,I guess you never had an older brother who constantly praised the yankees while the mets were continually garbage.they all compete against each other whether it is media coverage,one getting praised,while the other gets dumped on.Ask the old baseball fan Scjoe,and see if he loved the yankees and dodgers in the 50’s.

  174. By SCfromNY on Sep 4, 2012 | Reply

    Gary, I don’t disagree with you I just think some people can root for both. Baseball is different. Now there are 162 games so by the end of the season you have seen a ton of baseball so while mad you didn’t make the playoffs or world series your watching pleasure has been satisfied. We have only 16 games to enjoy our favorite team so to add 3 playoffs including SB is huge.

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