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Turnabout: Jets No. 1 After Week 1 in Scoring Offense

Posted by Randy Lange on September 11, 2012 – 11:51 am

We’re not about to say preseason doesn’t matter, but do you remember all those stories about how the Jets were the first NFL team in 35 years not to score a touchdown in their first three preseason games, or how the first offense had no TDs the entire summer?

Forget about them.

This morning, after the conclusion of the first week of the NFL regular season Monday night, the Jets find themselves in an unusual position at the top of another set of rankings: They are the top-scoring team in all of football.

The Jets’ 48 points in their season-opening bouncing of Buffalo lifts them to No. 1 in the league, ahead of Baltimore’s 44 points from last night vs. Cincinnati, Chicago’s 41 vs. Indianapolis, and the 40-point games from Washington and Atlanta.

When was the last time the Jets led the NFL in scoring? you might ask. It’s been a while — 136 weeks and virtually eight full seasons ago.

The Jets opened 2004 explosively. Led by Curtis Martin, beginning his finest season as a pro, and Chad Pennington, they topped the Bengals at home, 31-24, then went to San Diego and outpointed LaDainian Tomlinson, Drew Brees and the Chargers, 34-28. Their 32.5 points per game led the league after two weeks.

Prior to that, the last time they even sniffed the top spot was after the opening week of 1997, when they began Bill Parcells’ short era as Jets coach with a 41-3 win at Seattle to share the top spot with the Patriots after their first game under their new HC, Pete Carroll.

The Jets have never led the NFL in scoring. Their best finishes were second in 1972 and third in ’73. And the only season they ever led the AFL was their first, as the Titans in 1960.

It’s still a little early to be crowing, of course. Let’s wait to see how this new offensive juggernaut thing works out until after Sunday’s game at Pittsburgh. The Jets have averaged 13.6 points in their nine games in the Steel City, and their best was the 22 points in their only victory there in 2010.

Other rankings of note for the Jets: They’re first also in third-down efficiency (71.4%, 10-for-14) and in punt-return average (68.0 on Jeremy Kerley’s one dazzling return), second in yards per pass play (9.9 yards), tied for the lead in sacks allowed (zero), 12th in rushing yards, tied for 13th in passing yards and 11th in total yards. And their four defensive takeaways against one giveaway has them tied for third in turnover margin at plus-3.

But the defense went from being a preseason strength to checking in 32nd and last in rushing yards allowed per game and per carry, thanks to the elusive C.J. Spiller.

A little later we’ll bring you a little more on rookie WR Stephen Hill’s sharp debut in green and white. But for now we’ll leave you with the nine teams with the highest point totals on opening day since the 1970 AFL-NFL merger (home teams in CAPS):

1971 — Cowboys 49, BILLS 37

1973 — Falcons 62, SAINTS 7

1986 — CHARGERS 50, Dolphins 28

1987 — BUCCANEERS 48, Falcons 10

1989 — Browns 51, STEELERS 0

1995 — DOLPHINS 52, Jets 14

2002 — DOLPHINS 49, Lions 21

2003 — 49ERS 49, Bears 7

2012 — JETS 48, Bills 28

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65 Responses to “Turnabout: Jets No. 1 After Week 1 in Scoring Offense”

  1. By Tom Spicer on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    If you look at the Jet schedule this coming week is either the hardest or the 2nd hardest game of the year. We have some tuff home games 49ers, Texans, Chargers & Pats. But the hardest games of the year to win are going to be this week & at the Pats. These are the two tuffest games on the schedule if the Jets can pull out this game this week. All the so called experts will be calling us serious Super Bowl contenders. So let me ask you this Jet fans what is the harder game 1 At the Steelers or 2 At the Pats?

  2. By DKM on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    T Spicer at the Pats

  3. By IRA on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    The hardest game is always your next. Pitt will be very tough with or without Revis but they are not the same team they were 2 or 3 years ago. If the Jets can get to Big Ben they have a shot to win.
    I would be thrilled if the Jets finished in the top 15 this year offensively. If so they will be in the playoffs for sure.
    GO JETS!!!!

  4. By davetharave on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    Steelers has always been very tough. I think in the past several seasons Pittsburgh and Baltimore have gone from being tough games to an intimidation factor against the Jets, especialy in their houses. If we can go into Pitt and grab a win, look out. The confidence that will provide this team is almost immeasurable. I think over the past few seasons we’ve shown we can mostly hang with the Pats and we have beaten them several times including playoffs. After seeing the offense finally unleashed Sunday (bye bye Schotty !) with our new weapons and protection the key for Mark, I’m cautiously optimistic we can go into Pittsburgh and win not just a squeaker but by 7 – 14 points.

  5. By Jerry Silver on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    The 2004 New York Jets season saw the team try to improve on its 6–10 2003 record. The Jets started the season by winning their first five games, which was a franchise record. They ultimately finished 10–6, and clinched the fifth seed in the playoffs, reaching the postseason for the third time in four seasons. They upset the AFC West champion San Diego Chargers in the Wild Card round, winning in overtime 20–17, but would lose in the Divisional round to the Pittsburgh Steelers, also by a score 20–17 in overtime.

    The 1997 New York Jets season began with the team trying to improve upon its league-worst and franchise-worst 1–15 record from 1996. Sparked by the arrival of head coach Bill Parcells, who replaced Rich Kotite, and was coming off a Super Bowl berth the previous season, the Jets improved to 9–7, but narrowly missed the playoffs after losing their final game of the season.

  6. By SCfromNY on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    I am even more happy in the way the jets made the top scoring team. With great plays after an interception, a pick six, and a punt return. All three aspects,O, D, and St contribute. I don’t see the Steelers as the toughest test this year based on last years games and the first game. I feel the 49ers will be the toughest. NE looked good over Tenn. but Tenn did not play well. Chris Johnson had what a 1 yard per carry rate. Brady was good but not great. If the Jets can run slightly and most important have pressure up the middle the Pats are beatable. I do think that to win any tough games we will need production from McKnight and Powell. Tebow Time is over.

  7. By DKM on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    As for last Sunday, happy i had to eat some of my critizism but it needs to continue next Sunday and thru out the Season, it is all to familiar to us die hards that after a good game we have a let down wich can last a couple of games.
    Rex not mouthing off to MUCH after game is a sign him learning to take the high road and wait till they accomplish something however him taking a shot at the NY Post for labeling the Jets as circus with the Pics and all, good for him.

    As for the D it was a little uncharacteristic to give up 169 yard to spiller but i think Rex will straighten that one out.

  8. By GaryC on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    the hardest game will be the team that we will meet in the super bowl,the niners.

  9. By DKM on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    Ira i dont know if you where sarcastic or if you realy meant that Fire Man ED was great, cause at this Point i think they totaly overdoing it and that in my opinion this has become a circus the Jets schould avoid. Whats next the” FIRE MAN ED HALFTIME SHOW ” are you allright with this nonsense.

  10. By DKM on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    OK let me repost what Randy thought wasnt so kosher, for every One Hit Wonder posting here and bashing the regulars you also the one who doesnt have a opinion when the team is doing bad so keep your LALA Land thoughts to your self and go away.

    Let me repeat that for Jet Blue, you and some select Media Clowns wich get paid for this, are of the Opinion that the Wildcat is a distraction and that even after MS and Coaches said it isnt, is there something you and your select Friends know wich i and and the coaching stuff doesnt, stop whining if doesnt work they will get rid of it and im not advocating it but it keept the D OFF BALANCE on Sunday and thats fine by me.

  11. By GaryC on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    jetfantom,after the jets beat pittsburgh,I will be heading my way to the ‘land of enchantment’ for a few days and hoping to come across those senoritas at the cantina and to hoist a few to Sanchez,hopefully.

  12. By Jerry Silver on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    Here is what happened some plays after the wildcat I

    (13:31) (Shotgun) Direct snap to 15-T.Tebow. 25-J.McKnight right end to NYJ 33 for 3 yards (94-M.Williams).
    2-7-NYJ 33 (12:50) 6-M.Sanchez pass short right to 86-J.Cumberland to NYJ 44 for 11 yards (50-N.Barnett).

    (6:45) (Shotgun) Direct snap to 15-T.Tebow. 15-T.Tebow left tackle to BUF 12 for 4 yards (90-C.Kelsay).
    2-6-BUF 12
    (6:07) 6-M.Sanchez pass short right to 11-J.Kerley for 12 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

    (8:17) (Shotgun) Direct snap to 15-T.Tebow. 29-B.Powell left end to BUF 33 for 4 yards (37-G.Wilson).
    2-6-BUF 33 (7:39) 6-M.Sanchez pass incomplete short right to 10-S.Holmes.

    Direct snap to 15-T.Tebow. 15-T.Tebow right tackle to BUF 33 for 3 yards (91-Sp.Johnson; 31-J.Byrd).
    (15:00) 6-M.Sanchez pass deep left to 84-S.Hill for 33 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

  13. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    PIT at home with Wallace and us without Revis could be pretty hard, Spice.

  14. By RON ALEXANDER on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    Guys, Like all of you here I am thrilled with the win vs. Buffalo. That being said I would urge all to proceed with caution.i understand the excitement and enthusiam a win like this brings. Its natural after the negativity brought on by last years collapse and the pre-season debacle’s we all lived through. I do want to remind us all that we did give up over 165 yds rushing,4 t.d’s and some god awful taclling to boot! Danny, I luv ya bro, but as has been said before, lets not start ordering the Hall of Fame busts for any of our guys just yet. If anyone t-vow’d the game please go back and look at some of Hill’s catches. Yes he did catch them but notice he is still catching them against his body. i guarantee that will be a problem if he -

  15. By Alex G on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    I think the if the Jets stay focused and not get too ahead of themselves they can come out of Pittsburgh with the W, Ira is right this is not the Steelers of 2-3 years ago I watched the game the defense looked off, slower and not as ferocious as in the past. They can get the attention of the league and start earning some respect of the critics and if they can go to Miami and handle business at 3-0 it will make the papers smoke with good articles for the 49 r game.

  16. By RON ALEXANDER on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    cont.- doesn’t start catching them with his hands. Lets not let the europhia cloud our thinking.It was what it was, a great win but a lot of stuff needs fixing. We play a really tough team this week and yes Ira is right they are not the same Steeler team we lost to in the AFC championship game. But they will be a lot better than the Bills were Sunday. If nothing else, Rothlisberger will give us fits with his ability to extend plays when the pass protection breakes down. Guys will need to maintain outside contain and keep him in the pocket.If Revis is out the job will be that much tougher. They have two excellent W.R’s and T.E’s. All in all we had a great week and deserve to enjoy the win. But lets not order our playoff tickets yet.

  17. By Frank Verde on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    Congratulations Jets. That’s one big point for Rex, Tony and company. Tony exploited the Bills’ weak spot, their secondary. A novel idea: Take what the opponent gives you. The verdict on Tony’s schemes and game-planning is a ways down the road, but I’ve liked his fundamentals. He’s pushed the offense into quick implementation and decisions; emphasizing knowing and doing. Tom Brady gave a micro dissertation on throwing accuracy in homage to his QB coach. Accuracy is simply muscle memory. The mind must be still as vision takes over and triggers muscle-memory. In real time performance, doubts become mistakes and confusion causes “train wrecks.” I’ve been unwilling to write-off Mark on the basis of the Schotty era.

  18. By Mike Jet Vet on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    Randy, glad your on board with lets wait and see attitude. If history tells us anything, When a Jet Defense ranks 32th give up boatloads of yardage on the ground, and wins by 20 points, Opposing team was pretty much non existent. That said on to your next point, First let me say Curtis Martin is retired McKnight, Powell Greene or conner aren’t in the same class as of yet.. Chad was far more Consistent, plus his knowledge of the game is a horse of another color from Sanchez, So I believe this week is a very large test for team Coaches and Sanchez….On where they’re at , In my opinion

  19. By Karan on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    Aw man no, why did you waive Patrick Turner?? He was a solid fourth option. whyyyyy

  20. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    Hey GaryC, we just waived Turner, y’know what that means? It means we cut Woodhead for Clowney for Turner and then were left with ZILCH! And that’s why we need to draft WRs as high as it gets, Rex, because if it was up to you, we’d have no 21st-century weapons on O at all! scjoe, what do you think this says about Hill, Schilens, White? I’m not being sarcastic, I’m serious. I didn’t expect Turner to go at all this yr, in fact I expected him to fight Schilens for the #4 spot. What are they thinking, lining up Tebow at WR? And by the way folks, you wanna bring in Tebow, go ahead but don’t ask SANCHEZ to line up at WR! One nice shot from a dirty CB that puts him out for a few games or even the yr and you’ll see how REALLY stupid the Wildcat is!

  21. By SCfromNY on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    I can not understand the Turner cut. While not a starter he was a decent option in case of injury. Unless they have their eye on someone else I am confused.

  22. By GaryC on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    Jetfantom,sounds good to me, maybe we can bring up Jordan White,who should have never been cut.

  23. By GaryC on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    jetfantom, I like the link of woodhead,clowney and turner,meaning we should have never let woodhead go,who you said wasn’t much of a loss.

  24. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    Hey GaryC, I wish I could offer to meet you somewhere in L.A. but I’m going to be totally crazed over the next few weeks (and months) as business comes to an end for the yr, before what’s looming as possibly the worst business yr in decades. If you send Randy your travel info, though, and ask him to send it to me privately, I’ll see if I’m in town when you’re here. Good pt, RON A, about Hill catching with his body. Yes, he needs to go with the hands but all reports say that he has good ones. After the way he played for most of the summer, it would be too critical at this pt to make too big a deal over how he caught ‘em Sunday, I’m just glad he caught ‘em!

  25. By wayne on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    Wow, hell just froze over, 64, concerned for GQ’s health and wellbeing……man we do change our spots quickly…..Last week’s game tells us nothing…..The Bills were severely overrated….Jets will be facing a rush this weekend, especially if Harrison plays……It will be man up time for GQ….They’re still deep in show me territory.

  26. By bill on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    8 years ago since they were ranked #1 in scoring…. wasn’t it 7 years ago that Schotty became the OC?
    As I’ve been saying for at least 5 years, get rid of Schotty. But what do I know? Surely the football experts and masterminds must have known the same thing? So why did the guy stick so long? One can only guess. This Jets team kept 2 fg kickers on the 53 man not so long ago. So anything’s possible with the Jets.
    But he’s gone. Finally Sanchez can reach his potential. Every QB under Schotty has done better post Schotty. The list includes players you’ve probably never heard of, Brees, Farve, Pennington, and now Sanchez. I’m sure there are others but you get the point.
    We could have 3 Lomardis instead of the 1 in the case. Goodbye Schotty,

  27. By boni on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    When are the haters are going to get it? why do you have to say “Tebow Time is over’? support the all the players!!!

  28. By Arte Olde School Section 327 on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    For all you football-savvy SOJetFans out there (NOTE THE SARCASM) Mike Tomlin just warned that the Jets just showed “the tip of the iceberg” when it comes to their plans for the versatile Tebow this season. What is it with all of you naysayers? I guess you think replacing Mark Brunell, an over-aged, bankrupt, joke of a “has been” was a better #2 QB than Tebow is? Hello! Tebow-mania is here to stay! Tebow is a class act amongst a team that has been labelled “immature, a circus, a joke, toxic, poison, negative, a time bomb ready to explode.” Well guess what boys and girls? He’s THE reason the Jets will succeed. The reason MS will have his best year – #1 3rd Down EFF!.He is the positive catalyst this team has needed for some time. GETITEBOW!

  29. By DKM on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    JFS 64 i agree with you about how unesescery it is to line up the QB as WR, that needs to be adressed, however the wildcat still was somewhat effective for the purpose to show some different looks. Can you still fool good NFL Football teams with it, probably not, but it did the Bills and as long as it confuses somebody on the D so be.

  30. By DKM on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    well case and point Jerry Silver need to say more

  31. By DKM on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    the US is playing Jamaica right now im wondering if Klinsi could have used TT as Goalie or CB……. mmmmhhhh just wondering

  32. By DKM on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    good observation by Ron A. there about Hill but those are minut things a Rookie does and thats why the WR Coach is there, so by mid season this isnt a problem anymore.

  33. By LEO FROM NY on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply


  34. By joshua on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    not a bad week.

  35. By scjoe on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    64, Holmes, Hill, Schliens, Kerley, and Gates, along with Keller is sufficient. Use Turners roster spot for another safety or corner if one is available. Don’t forget, they have White and Pollard on the PS as well.

  36. By scjoe on Sep 11, 2012 | Reply

    How about those boys over at ESPN? They have the Jets ranked 17th after leading the league in scoring. If that isn’t bad enough they have four 0-1 teams ranked ahead of them. Lets see how long it will take all of the “experts” at ESPN to jump on the Jets bandwagon should they happen to beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh.

  37. By joeyjets12fla on Sep 12, 2012 | Reply

    hey randy, wants the rule on bringing back turner for less money? if thats the plan fine, but if not, i can’tbelieve they straight out waived him. no way there was no trade value for him.

  38. By punchie on Sep 12, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry to hear patrick turner was released. Won`t be surprised to see him dressed in blue and red next time we meet the bills

  39. By Jet Blue on Sep 12, 2012 | Reply

    Just when we thought it was safe to go back in the water, Jaws returns. Cutting Turner makes no sense, especially for a team that is thin at WR. I guess Rex/Tanny feel that one game against Buffalo is sufficient sample size to make this decision.

  40. By IRA on Sep 12, 2012 | Reply

    DKM, Ed’s speech before the opening kickoff about the media calling the Jets clowns really got the crowd fireed up. Good job by him.
    Karan, Not to worry about Turner if he gets through waivers then they could resign him.We will have to wait and see.I think they waived him to make room for Fletcher this week or another CB if Revis can’t go.

  41. By Jeffrey on Sep 12, 2012 | Reply

    The title is a little misleading. No. 1 in scoring team yes, No. 1 in scoring offense I am not so sure. Please let me know if this is incorrect.

  42. By Randy Lange on Sep 12, 2012 | Reply

    Interesting point, Jeffrey. True, two of the Jets’ touchdowns Sunday were on returns. But the NFL and reporters typically refer to scoring offense and scoring defense, regardless of how the points are scored or allowed.

  43. By Tom Spicer on Sep 12, 2012 | Reply

    Bill, You can add Phil Rivers to the list of ” Every QB under Schotty has done better post Schotty. The list includes players you’ve probably never heard of, Brees, Farve, Pennington, and now Sanchez”

  44. By Tom Spicer on Sep 12, 2012 | Reply

    In the 3 years that Rex has been with us we have beat the Pats 3 times & on the road. If we protect Mark & we pressure Brady I know we can beat them. I have seen it happen multipkle times. So to me this is the hardest game of the year this week. The Steelers are 0 & 1 facing 0 & 2. It is there home opener. They never lose at home. They are getting Harrison back. They might get Mendenhall back. We might not have Revis. This is going to be a VERY very tuff game. Every yard every inch is going to be hard to get. We need to give Mark protection so he can throw. I doubt we will be able to run the ball I am not high on Greene in the 1st place. But it is VERY hard to run on the Steelers especially when they are home. On D another reason why I

  45. By Tom Spicer on Sep 12, 2012 | Reply

    think this game is harder then the Pat game is this IF you get to Brady he goes down. With Big Ben you can get to him & it still does not matter he is bigger than our linebackers you can hit him & he brushes guys off of him. No other QB in the NFL has that quality he is unique in that way. If we can some how pull this out every so called expert who had us 3rd in the divsion behind the Bills & not making the playoffs will have us going to the Super Bowl.

  46. By Karan on Sep 12, 2012 | Reply

    I’m not too sure scjoe, Patrick Turner and Sanchez seemed to be developing something. Also, PT was the most consistent receiver we’ve had before the week 1 game. Even into last season, he didn’t drop passes, definetly a solid no. 4 option. Cimini says there might be a good chance he re-signs, I hope thats true.

  47. By Tom Spicer on Sep 12, 2012 | Reply

    Also I would have kept Turner & if a WR had to be cut I would have cut Schiliens instead of Turner. Schilins has never been able to stay healthy he gets hurt every year. I like the Holmes, Hill, Kerley & Turner better than Holmes, Hill, Kerley & Schilines.

  48. By AZ JET Fan on Sep 12, 2012 | Reply

    Yea, the jets O only scored 34. It is intersting how it is counted. Don’t agree with Turner cut and we are in trouble if Revis can’t play.

  49. By GaryC on Sep 12, 2012 | Reply

    sorry jetfantom,Santa Fe is my land of enchantment.

  50. By GaryC on Sep 12, 2012 | Reply

    this is another point in sanchez’s favor,at least he is there for every game and isn’t injury prone,which you couldn’t say for all jet quarterbacks.

  51. By DKM on Sep 12, 2012 | Reply

    Ira im sorry not to hump on this subject to much, regardless of media calling us whatever, the crowd last Sunday didnt needed ED to fire them up they where fired up on there own, comon it was Opening day im always fired up for that and the ones who dont schouldnt be there. It was cute when it started what 12, 13 years ago i get it but now it just has become a unnessecery Sideshow thats all im saying.

  52. By DKM on Sep 12, 2012 | Reply

    Listen Leo from NY i know you exited like a little Kid in the Toy store, but calling the Bills Garbagge is a little harsch, i believe any Team were the QB throws as many INTs as Fitzpatrick in the first 2 Quarters is going to be flat, especially on the Road, they invested heavenly in there D wich looked awfully bad on Sunday and im sure coming last game of the Season the Jets will see a completly different Bills Team in RW stadium when we go up there. Giants, Packers arent Garbagge neither cause they lost the first game and im sure if the Jets would have lost the first game you wouldnt call them that either. So go play with your Toys.

  53. By DKM on Sep 12, 2012 | Reply

    T Spicer one thing we learned from Sunday night is the Steel Mill looked awfully slow against the no Huddle, and that is something MS knows how to do, and im sure TS is figuring out as we speak to go 75% of the snaps in the no huddle. It is a very critical game come sunday since i anticepate that the Steelers will battle for a wild card spot against us with the Ravens winning there Division.

  54. By DKM on Sep 12, 2012 | Reply

    Ohh………….. by the way was anybody misssing TJ C on Sunday, while on the Subject of kicking good Job by Folk there on Sunday.

  55. By Howie D on Sep 12, 2012 | Reply

    Waste of time worrying about what the TV pundits are saying. The electronic media today is littered with ex-jocks who can’t even construct a decent sentence. These guys, mostly, aren’t experts. They’re just famous faces and voices networks think are appealing to fans. Gone are the days when you had to be qualified and needed a FCC license to be a host in broadcasting. Take it for what it is, style over substance. It’s marketing. Most of us know more about the subject than many of those ‘idols.’ Their lack of respect will work in our favor. It has placed a chip on the players’ shoulder and they’re now motivated to prove them wrong. That’s a good thing!

  56. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Sep 12, 2012 | Reply

    First thing I have to say to Arte and some of these other posters is if you’re gonna credit Tebow for coming in and gaining 3 yds in what looks like a busted play every time Sanchez throws a TD, I suggest you take your expert spinning skills and go to work at the White House. wayne, it’s true Sanchez often throws unwisely or inaccurately even with the best protection, but he still deserves some peace in the pocket. As for Turner, that impulsive move (that’s the word to keep in mind about Rex) seems to have already been a mistake, with Kerley maybe out for PIT. As for Woodhead, GaryC, I didn’t think he was a huge loss, especially since Rex — another of his hallmarks — didn’t know how to use him. But the way he was let go was ridiculous.

  57. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Sep 12, 2012 | Reply

    Oh yeah, GaryC, that’s right, you’d think I’d have gotten the reference, since I see that license plate every other day. Oh well, have fun, Arte found a good bar at which to watch the Jets when he spent some time in those parts last fall.

  58. By gmany3k on Sep 12, 2012 | Reply

    Mark should not be a WR unless they intend to reverse he position back to throw the ball period.a second TE or WR should be there for a run or pass play from Tebow.I like Tebow as an H back or 3rd Te when he is in the game and not QB. the logic that when tebow leaves the game good things happen is impossible or that he has set something to our advantaged unless the defense can not see him on the side lines.lol it make no difference to me if it was shotty or the past WR we had were to good for mark because the new WR are very young and have plenty of room to grow , so I think it is safe to say mark has elevated his abilities as QB and less the factor of the others being the problem because many of the defenders on the other team’s left.

  59. By gmany3k on Sep 12, 2012 | Reply

    con’t My statement for the season is this boring one . “all the matters is the win ”
    look at the Giants the wins got them the ring not the Stats. not the speculations.

  60. By GaryC on Sep 13, 2012 | Reply

    Jetfantom,you might not think much of Woodhead,but he would be our best all around back now.

  61. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Sep 13, 2012 | Reply

    I agree with you, GaryC, and I’d definitely take Woodhead back now, because I didn’t anticipate letting TJ go for only 1 good yr of LT; didn’t anticipate replacing Leon with McKnight but not actually using McKnight at RB; didn’t anticipate drafting 3 other RBs but never giving them the ball (and cutting and losing 1 of them); in other words, I didn’t anticipate Rex’s complete ineptitude with our RBs even when the best he could do with our on-again, off-again offense under Schotty was to lamely say — even in the yr Sanchez worked well with Holmes, Edwards, and J-Co — “If it was up to me, I’d just run the ball.”

  62. By Rick Rosselli (Stayloaded) on Sep 13, 2012 | Reply

    I agree with you 100% JFS’64 Tom
    Why get rid of Turner Tall good hands and he can play, another fine mess Nice going Rex, all the good ones leave the Jets and make a name for themsleves

  63. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Sep 14, 2012 | Reply

    Yeah, I’m with you, Rick, especially given how thin we are at WR. Gates is just another worthless pick-up from Sparano’s failed MIA team. He may be better at revitalizing the Jets’ O than as the HC of a team, maybe because the former job, given out O last yr, is easier than the latter.

  64. By scjoe on Sep 14, 2012 | Reply

    Some of you guys talk about Turner as if he were Randy Moss in his prime. This guy was a FA pick up who couldn’t start on 2 teams that had WR issues. Are you talking about him strictly as a red zone target? What’s wrong with Hill, Schliens or Cumberland for that roll? Besides, has anybody signed him yet?

  65. By RON ALEXANDER on Sep 14, 2012 | Reply

    SPICER,RK.Roselli,64 relax dudes, I know you like to go toe to toe with S.C.Joe, but he is right about Turner! S.C.Joe and I both like to save the games on T-voe and watch them a few times and I see the same things he sees. Turner is stiff, slow and not even sure handed as he bobbles quite of the passes he catches. He is easily replaceable! DKM & 64, Hill had at least 4 drops over the pre-season one of withch bounced off his shoulder pad and was intercepted! Do not make the mistake on minimizeing this as it is a hard habit to break.Lal needs to work him till he gets it right! But, yes, like you guys I love his potential.Bye the way, Schillens is way more talented than Turner,no comparison!

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