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Ryan Not Yet Ready to Place Revis on IR

Posted by Randy Lange on September 28, 2012 – 2:55 pm

Updated 4:17 p.m. ET

The Jets all this week have listed Darrelle Revis as out of Sunday’s game against San Francisco, but they have not placed him on injured reserve yet. And head coach Rex Ryan said at his news conference this afternoon that the reason for that is not because the team hasn’t gotten around to it.

“I’ve talked to Darrelle and all that,” Ryan said of his All-Pro corner, who tore his left ACL at Miami last Sunday. “Let’s see what happens when he goes through surgery. Because if there’s that 0.0002 percent chance that he can play in a Super  Bowl or something, why would you take that option away from him?”

Ryan said there obviously is no intention of trying to rush Revis back from knee surgery in two or three weeks if he would be at risk on the field. And the coach said there hasn’t been anything in particular that has caused him, GM Mike Tannenbaum and the team’s medical and training staffs to think the injury might not be a season-ender.

“I think it’s a thing where let’s get through the surgery. You don’t have to make a snap decision, ‘Let’s just place him on IR, replace him with somebody,’ ” Rex said. “If you’re fortunate enough to get there, if he does well with the surgery, is healthy for that, is targeted for that, why wouldn’t you believe in  yourself enough to give yourself that opportunity.”

He said he’s not saying a Revis return this season could happen. But is he thinking about? “That’s probably true,” he said with his Rexian smile.

“I just know our trainers are confident that Darrelle’s going to come back from this injury at some point, they think he’s going to be 100 percent. Now when that time is, I don’t know. I feel great about that and we feel great about that, being Jets fans and in this organization. I think we’ll have a much better understanding to it after he has the surgery.”

Scoring Change No. 1

Revis hasn’t been seen around the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center during media periods this week, but there was a leather relic that was placed in his locker early on. A football rested in one of the locker’s cubicles, white athletic tape wrapped in a band around its middle.

On the band was written in marker: “#24 / Fumble Rec / 3rd Qtr / 9/23/12 / MIA.”

It was the ball that Revis pounced on for the fumble recovery at the Dolphins 26 with 14:08 left in the third frame, his last takeaway perhaps this season before he tore his ACL a little over 10 minutes of clock time later.

NFL equipment teams routinely rescue footballs during a game that have significance to the players who  scored with them, intercepted them or recovered them. Each ball gets wrapped in tape and the player’s number and details of the play are scrawled on it. Then the ball is left for the player, who passes it on to commemorative artists for special painting and printing. The ball comes back ready for the player’s trophy case or mantel.

Perhaps it’s no more poignant, but a scoring change involving that very football was made this week by the Elias Sports Bureau. That play was originally scored by the Dolphins stat crew as a fumble by RB Daniel Thomas, recovered by Revis but forced by Kenrick Ellis. From one angle, it did appear that Ellis performed the strip. From another, it looked as if Revis ripped the ball out of Thomas’ grasp. No replay angles gave a really clear view of who forced the fumble.

After further review and consultation, Elias ruled that Revis should get the force along with the recovery. Recoveries are official statistics, forces are not, but all are duly noted by Elias, the NFL and other statistical purveyors. It’s the third forced fumble of Revis’ career and his first since 2008, while the opponents’ recovery was the fifth of his career.

Scoring Change No. 2

Another scoring change from the Dolphins game was the 5-yard loss that Tim Tebow absorbed on his third-quarter Wildcat play from the Miami 2. It was scored as a running play but was changed to a sack because it was determined that Tebow was intending to throw to Jeff Cumberland, who was covered in the end zone. So it was a pass play, and because the passer was tackled behind the line, it became a sack.

That change ripples through the Jets’ statistics. It was, for instance, officially Tebow’s first pass play as a Jet. With 5 more rushing yards, the Jets break their tie with San Diego to hold 17th in the NFL’s rushing yards/game category. OK, not so impressive. With 5 fewer net passing yards, their 300-yard net game becomes a 295-yard game. (But Sanchez is still credited with a 306-yard individual passing game, the sixth 300-yard outing of his career.)

The change also gave the sack to DT Randy Starks, who’s become something of a Jet-killer lately. Who can forget Starks’ big game in last season’s finale at Miami: two interceptions and one sack of Sanchez.

And who was it that swatted away Nick Folk’s first gamewinning field goal attempt that was nullified because head coach Joe Philbin called the timeout a second before the kick? R.Starks.

The Icing on the Cake

Finally, it should be noted before the 49ers get here that while Philbin’s icing attempt didn’t work, Rex Ryan’s did. The Jets called timeout before Dan Carpenter’s 48-yard try to win it six minutes into overtime and Carpenter proceeded to hook his second kick of the day wide left from that area on the Sun Life Stadium field.

OK, so maybe Rex’s timeout worked and maybe Carpenter would have missed it either way. But that’s the beauty of icing the kicker. We’ll never know for sure what caused the miss, but the bottom line says the timeout worked its magic.

Which raises a trivia question: When was the last time the Jets successfully iced a kicker trying to win a game with a field goal in the last two minutes of regulation or overtime? Answer below.

Friday Injury Reports

The Jets are listing five players as limited at today’s practice and questionable for the 49ers: FB John Conner (knee), TE Dustin Keller (hamstring), LB Bart Scott (toe), LB Bryan Thomas (hamstring) and WR Patrick Turner (hamstring).

Will Keller be ready to roll after sitting out the last two games? “We’ll find out,” Ryan said. “I’m not willing to rule out any one of those guys, Keller, Thomas, Turner, Conner and Scott.”

However, rookie WR Stephen Hill (hamstring) is doubtful for the Niners, and Rex verbally modified that status to “very doubtful.”

One more Jet was added to this week’s list making it 21 players, the same number that last week’s list ended at. That player is RT Austin Howard (back), but he practiced full and is probable for the game. So are Sanchez (low back), S LaRon Landry (heel), S Eric Smith (hip/knee) and the 10 other Jets who had been full-go all week.

Update: For the 49ers, the good news for the Jets is that TE Vernon Davis appeared on today’s injury report. The bad news: Davis (back) practiced full and is probable for the game. So are LB Patrick Willis and P Andy Lee. The three other players on the list all week are questionable: WR Ted Ginn (ankle), RB Brandon Jacobs (knee) and NT Isaac Sopoaga (ankle/knee). Sopoaga did not practice all week.

Rex Cetera

Ryan said the Jets “had a great day of practice” today and “a great week of practice” in preparing for the Niners. “Obviously, you’ve got to be on top of it when you look at this football team, how multiple they are in their formations, shifts, motions. You have to be on top of it, and I think our guys are. I think you’re going to see a great effort from our defense against their offense, and the same thing with our offense. … We talked about their personnel earlier in the week. It’s going to be a challenge no doubt. I think we’re ready to roll.”

CB Antonio Cromartie has said he thinks he’s the best cornerback in the NFL after Revis. Ryan says bravo: “I love it. Now he has to go out there and prove it. But I absolutely love it. As a corner, you have to have that kind of confidence. That’s not half the battle but it’s a big part of the battle. If you think you’re good enough to go out there and man up on the best receivers in the league, you’re certainly going to be challenged. And he’ll have that opportunity to prove it. I’m happy he feels that way.”

The wide receivers’ 97 yards after the catch at Miami was their most YAC in a game in the Sanchez/Ryan era of Jets football. In fact, it’s the most by the wideouts since they had 106 at San Diego in Brett Favre’s third game as a Jet, and the most in a victory since at least 1995. This number got a big boost from Jeremy Kerley’s 55 YAC on his 66-yard catch-and-run with Sanchez late in the third quarter.

Answer to the trivia question (no prizes awarded): The Jets last successfully iced the Chargers’ Nate Kaeding in the 2004 AFC Wild Card Game. Herm Edwards called the timeout with 4:23 left in the first overtime period, then Kaeding went wide right from 40 yards out. Then-SD coach Marty Schottenheimer tried to do the same with Doug Brien. It didn’t work as Brien put through the gamewinner from 28 yards out with five seconds left in the OT.


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28 Responses to “Ryan Not Yet Ready to Place Revis on IR”

  1. By Jersey Rich on Sep 28, 2012 | Reply

    of course Revis out is Bad News – but I’m worried more about the O rather than the D. Maybe Tebow can take a few carries away from Greene/Powell. Go Jets!

  2. By IRA on Sep 28, 2012 | Reply

    Of course Revis will be out until next August but this is a message Rex is sending to his team that the season is far from over unless there is some contractual stuff about putting him on IR on a later date.

    Randy Starks is a great player and to me has become the new AJ Duhe.

  3. By Tom Spicer on Sep 28, 2012 | Reply

    Put him on the IR he is not coming back & we need the roster spot to pick up another player!

  4. By Karan on Sep 28, 2012 | Reply

    Eh I know it stinks anytime you lose your best player, one can be hesistant to put him on IR. Rex’s favorite player is clearly Revis. We’ll all miss him this season Rex, but your going to have to put him on IR sooner or later. Wish that injury never happened, hate significant injuries to any player, whether its a division rival or especially our own player, injuries just stink.

  5. By Karan on Sep 28, 2012 | Reply

    I know I’m not giving our team much of a chance this weekend against the 49ers either, but NOT a single analyst has chosen the Jets to win this weekend. I’ll admit I’m having my doubts too, but I really really hope we win and prove everyone wrong. We can definetly overcome the Revis injury, just need to execute consistently and apply tons of pressure to the opposing quaterback, something we have not done well as of yet. But this defense overcome the odds when Leonhard was on IR and I believe we can do it now.

  6. By robertpapalia on Sep 28, 2012 | Reply

    Is Rex really kidding or what? This team has as much chance to go to the Super Bowl as the Houston Astros winning the World Series. Bad drafting as well as terrible personnel decesions have put the Jets in their present predictament. The Revis injury only hightlights the fact of a bad supporting cast. The only way things will change for the better is a new management team with a good football mindset. And then maybe we can get serious about talk about Super Bowls.

  7. By nytitan on Sep 28, 2012 | Reply

    Revis needs to be put on IR to free up a roster spot and Tebow needs to be released to do the same. Anyone who believes Tebow is a better option at QB then Sanchez knows nothing about football.

  8. By SCfromNY on Sep 28, 2012 | Reply

    I think it would be a huge mistake to rush revis back. I don’t see the big deal about putting him on IR. Teams this year can take 1 player off IR after, I believe, 8 weeks. No way would he come that fast and by 8 weeks you should know if there is any chance he will be back. I am more worried about the O Sunday. If Rex insists on pounding Greene we will looking at 3r and long all day. The 49ers will be able to blitz Sanchez and we all know how Sanchez does against relentless pressure. If the secret wildcat is not unvieled this week it’s time to call it what it is: A useless gimick.

  9. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Sep 28, 2012 | Reply

    Oh, now we have a whole story about Rex’s folly! Anybody who tries to tell me that this guy doesn’t live in a complete alternate NFL universe, from Jim Brown-like FBs in a league where nobody plays FB anymore to these endless delusions of Super Bowl glory, is clearly badly deluded him or herself. Karan, I admire your spirit, but Manningham, Moss, and Crabtree plus that TE Rex likes so much — funny that he can’t get a TE like that on his own team — would be a handful with 2 Revis’s at CB considering our pass rush or lack of it, our not-great-at-coverage safetys, and the amount of time our D spends on the field, so I’m not as optimistic as you about this Sunday.

  10. By Howie D on Sep 28, 2012 | Reply

    Get McElroy in the game if MS struggles.

  11. By Arte Old School Section 327 on Sep 28, 2012 | Reply

    Well boys and girls.. I am back in NY & attending the game this Sunday R1-S309. I, too, anticipate a VERY tough match-up as we face the 1ST of 3 key games in the next 4 weeks. BUT when EVERYONE picks the 49ers because they lost to the VIKINGS (LOL!) and w/o Revis we don’t have a prayer, I begin to believe that ON ANY GIVEN SUNDAY ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN AND!! OFTEN DOES!! WHY DO WE PLAY THE GAME?? Because emotions RUN HIGH in this league with only 16 games per season, that’s why! Let’s look at the bright side, as I always do, being the eternal optimist and underdog KING! JFT64!
    LET’S SURPRISE EVERYONE (incl. the Experts & our own Fan Friday Dave!!)
    JETS GO 3-1 & NIP SF 17-14! Defense picks up where Revis left off!
    (From my lips to God’s ears!)

  12. By 40 year fan , John on Sep 28, 2012 | Reply

    I do not want want to be negative , so I am not even going to comment on this game against the 49ers ..And Revis will be sorely missed ….

  13. By 40 year fan , John on Sep 28, 2012 | Reply

    …..Our best player is gone .

  14. By Karan on Sep 29, 2012 | Reply

    I always watch NFL Video playbook before a Jets game. This week obviously, they had the 49ers-Jets preview. Don’t always agree with those guys but I love the way they break down the film, I love watching that kind of stuff. And an interesting and also true remark a fella made week; he was talking about how the Jets have yet to find an identity on offense and then he started talking about the production of the O-line and running backs. He talked about Greene and said the O-line opened up some major holes and time and Greene just ended up into a stacked pile for no gain. They talked about how he must follow the guard to gain yardage. It’s exactly what we’ve been saying all along, Shonn Greene is simply not good enough to be starter, the…..

  15. By Karan on Sep 29, 2012 | Reply

    …….guy does not recognize some coverages and holes which he can plow through. Now, Bilal Powell on the other hand, Brian B and rest of the playbook guys were praising him. They recognized that Powell was able to see the gaps and juke his way out to extra yardage, thats exactly what the Jets need. I believe both Powell and McKnight have that ability. It felt in the playbook session that indirectly the guys were saying and know that Greene should not be the starter, a great point.

  16. By Karan on Sep 29, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Randy, do you know if the Jets are planning to activate Antonio Allen from the practice squad to the active roster? I would like to see him get a shot, he looked good in preseason. Also, any plans for Josh Bush to see the field anytime soon? Do you also know if the Jets have considered re-signing a guy like Brodney Pool and Drew Coleman for depth due to Revis injury; mainly because they are familiar with the Rex Ryan defense??

  17. By Randy Lange on Sep 29, 2012 | Reply

    Karan, I can’t tell you anything specific regarding plans for Antonio Allen. Josh Bush has played on about 30 special teams plays, none on defense, in the first three games. I have no information on Pool or Coleman, although the Jets did sign CB Darrin Walls, a Notre Damer who played for the Falcons last year, to the practice squad on Friday.

  18. By coat on Sep 29, 2012 | Reply

    well put nytitan

  19. By Charliejet on Sep 29, 2012 | Reply

    I have a question and I’m really curious on this one… OK I know Safety and Corner back are different positions BUT with that said, they communicate with each other and should know each other’s job. So wouldn’t it make sense to have ERIC SMITH in there instead of McKNIGHT. Why? Because of Eric’s pro experience back there
    is much better then MnKight’s high school. Eric made the calls so he knows the formations and other reasons I’m sure people can think of. I really want to know what the fans think of what I said please. OH before I forget Smith is 6’1 207,
    McKight is 5’11 205. Does this make sense to anyone?

  20. By Bitter Blinka on Sep 29, 2012 | Reply

    Robert,
    I’ve been saying the same thing. And I’m pretty sure we’re right. We’ll know more after these next two games. And if we play poorly, someone better take his head out of the sand and open his eyes.

    Another byproduct of their drafting and personnel decisions are leaders. Who exactly are the leaders on this club. I know LT assumed the job in only his first year. What’s going on in the front office?
    !
    Rex is doing the right this on Revis with IR. Wait for the surgury, speak to the Dr. and then decide. You never know.

    Regards,
    Bitter Blinks #54

  21. By Randy on Sep 29, 2012 | Reply

    Get Tebow in a Rhythm, Let him play. You can’t just throw him in every 10 plays & expect a flow. When he get’s into a Rhythm he will Ignite the offense period.

  22. By sal cottone on Sep 29, 2012 | Reply

    maybe they should look for a vet @ corner if thier are any and a vet @ wideout. Your down t2 in Hill and Kleer for how hong?? Anf Revis most likly ther rest of the season..PS the super bowl or playoff qute from Rex was funny, even if all that does happen would you risk next year or a carrer for this season!

  23. By Mike Jet Vet on Sep 29, 2012 | Reply

    I’m convinced someone slipped me a Mickey or I haven’t awoken yet,Not placing Revis on IR , ” WE NEED THE SPOT” their reasoning ,just in-case he’ll be back for the super Bowl? I didn’t realize it matters being on IR or not while watching in the press box Woody’s box or whomever box Revis and Rex will be watching from . lets just say on the off possibility he can get back by December which is totally ridiculous. Maybe 1 game , will he in game shape. doesn’t it make more sense. preparing his replacement to start and finish the season ..

  24. By fred on Sep 29, 2012 | Reply

    Jets in an upset tomorrow tons of people out in their knock out pools. These are not your Montana or Young 49ers & everyone has Harbaugh in the HOF already Lets Go Jets!!!

  25. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Sep 29, 2012 | Reply

    Charliejet and dan g, thanks for making the point, that should be obvious to Rex, that you try to play DBs at DB before you start putting RBs back there. The guy’s on another planet and yes, Arte, anything can happen — except for the wholesale makeover that this franchise has needed for decades. Still, it’s nice to see at least one real Jet fan from out of town who bought his ticket instead of getting it through some corporate giveway, so have fun on Sunday.

  26. By AZ JET Fan on Sep 29, 2012 | Reply

    McElroy should be the legitime back up for Sanchize. Let Tebow run the wildcat

  27. By SCfromNY on Sep 30, 2012 | Reply

    Kinda wish the 49ers had saved their “trip up” game for the Jets. Unfortunately they will probably be motivated to kick some Jet butt. How can a NFL team in one of the largest media areas with rabid fans continue to have a QB who is suspect and a #1 RB who would at best be #2 on most teams?

  28. By ken lewis on Sep 30, 2012 | Reply

    Please let me know how you know better. Last two years u traded away all our good players. Play calling and player utilization u have no clue. Watch the film.

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