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Still Seeking Ways to Tap into Tebow Potential

Posted by Randy Lange on October 4, 2012 – 7:11 pm

Tim Tebow was happy to hear again today about his expert blocking on Sunday against the 49ers.

“They said I did well,” Tebow said with a laugh. “I got ‘em down, man, I got ;em down.”

Indeed he did. Perhaps it was the Jets coaches, or maybe the Fox broadcast team of Kenny Albert, Daryl Johnston and Tony Siragusa, that he was referring to as “they said.”

On his first play at fullback with 13½ minutes left in the second quarter, Tebow — in effect Mark Sanchez’s personal protector in the alignment — lined up right, went left and rolled through Niners LB Aldon Smith.

“Tim Tebow did a nice job,” Goose crowed as he watched the replay. “He throws a nice little block.”

“That’s real nice,” added Moose, who’d been around the block a few times in his career. “Getting Aldon Smith’s hands down … he’s going to catch some heat in the film room on Monday. ‘Is that a quarterback that took you down, Aldon?’ “

Tebow left the field for a play, then returned in a similar role, this time lining up to Sanchez’s left, going right at the snap, and picking up LB Ahmad Brooks.

“Now Aldon Smith’s got company,” Johnston said, “because he comes across the formation and gets Ahmad Brooks and gets his hands down.”

That’s a nice little sidebar underscoring Tebow’s personal philosophy of “I definitely want to help the team, whatever they ask me to do.” But something tells us this is not what reporters and fans have in mind when they ask questions and make statements this week about wanting to see No. 15 on the field more.

This week’s theme, of course, is about Mark Sanchez’s job security. Rex Ryan said as late as today’s news conference, “I think Mark is an excellent quarterback” and “I think it takes a special guy to be a quarterback in this city and I think Mark has that, even that charisma, to play in this city.” Sanchez continued to answer questions about his performances the past three games and his 49.2% completion rate.

And Tebow continued to deflect this week’s battery of questions to probe his psyche about his role(s) so far with the Jets.

Is it frustrating not to be playing much?

“No … yeah,” he began. A personal revelation about to come, perhaps? “Well, you get frustrated when you lose football games. Other than that, I’m just trying to work hard and get better. We’re 2-2. The season’s not over yet.”

And how about the latest “sources close to Tebow” who say, yes, this fine young man really isn’t happy with his jobs as punt-team personal protector, split end, tight end, now fullback, and infrequent Wildcat QB?

“I haven’t talked to anybody or said anything,” he said. “You all are the only ones I’ve talked to.”

Is he OK with being the backup because of the less pressure that comes with that gig?

 “That’s not how I view it at all,” he said, about as strong a rebuke as any report or reporter will get from TT.

About the strongest Tebow will get about playing time is a wish today that “we could’ve in the past few games broken out a few times and had some bigger plays, yeah.”

That is the sidebar to any QB controversy that may or may not be brewing. After the first quarter of Tebow’s first season with the Jets, the numbers have been tame. Broken down several ways:

When Tebow is on the field: 31 plays, 98 yards, 3.2-yard average, 4 first downs.

When Tebow is triggering the Wildcat: 18 plays, 57 yards, 3.2 average, 2 first downs.

When Tebow carries or throws the ball or has it thrown to him: 13 plays, 46 yards, 3.5 average, 2 first downs.

Nothing to write home about yet. But whether Ryan and OC Tony Sparano use him a lot or a little against Houston on Monday night, they still will draw from the Tebow well to get the Jets’ offense and team ready to ride.

“Tim likes the competitiveness of this group. He’s a competitive guy,” Ryan said. “I think when we talked to him about personal protector when we brought him in, this guy’s all for it. He’s not a guy, ‘I’m not going to do this, I only want to do this.’ He’s just the opposite. If I say right now we want you to line up and play defensive tackle, he’s like, ‘OK, let’s go.’ “

The one reserve that should and will be tapped now that the Jets are down two star players and heading into the teeth of their schedule is that competitiveness. Tebow was asked how the Broncos made it to the playoffs last year when they were 1-4 and he had yet to start his magical run as a starting QB.

“Believing. Believing in each other, showing signs of great things here and there, feeding off of that, then catching on to the momentum when it came,” he said. “The game when we play is so much about momentum, getting that momentum, believing in it, and when you have it, doing great things.”

A lot of times, he chuckled again, those plays didn’t come until the fourth quarter.

“But we were so close together as a team and then you just believe. Someone steps up to make a play and there’s the here-we-go-again-type attitude. That was our mindset.”

Injury Lists

Today’s first injury reports of the week show the Jets’ list growing even longer but at least this time the opponent has a list of its own that’s in the Green & White ballpark.

The Jets have 23 players on their list. CB Darrelle Revis (knee, out) still tops it. Six players did not participate in today’s practice: FB John Conner (hamstring), WR Stephen Hill (hamstring), TE Dustin Keller (hamstring), DT Sione Po’uha (back), LB Bart Scott (toe) and LB Bryan Thomas (hamstring).

Three more were limited: S LaRon Landry (heel), S Eric Smith (hip/knee) and just-signed CB Aaron Berry (ribs). Thirteen more were full-go, including three new listees: S/ST Josh Bush (shoulder), TE Jeff Cumberland (ribs) and WR/PR Jeremy Kerley (finger). You can find the Jets’ full list here.

For the Texans, three were DNPs at today’s practice in Houston: S Quintin Demps (thumb/forearm), WR Lestar Jean (knee) and RB Ben Tate (toe). Six were limited: G Antoine Caldwell (ankle/knee), DT Shaun Cody (back), TE Owen Daniels (thigh), WR Andre Johnson (groin), S Shiloh Keo (neck) and DE Antonio Smith (ankle). And six were full: LB Bryan Braman (hamstring/neck), LB Tim Dobbins (hamstring), RB Arian Foster (hamstring), LB Bradie James (thigh), C Chris Myers (back) and LB Jesse Nading (foot).

The final lists for the Monday night game plus the game status will be available Saturday afternoon.

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68 Responses to “Still Seeking Ways to Tap into Tebow Potential”

  1. By TONY GARCIA on Oct 4, 2012 | Reply

    JET FAN since 1969.
    lets see how this all plays out 12 games to go.

  2. By Tom Spicer on Oct 4, 2012 | Reply

    It is nice to see everyone on the Jets are trying to stay positive. But the bottom line is this Monday night our starting lineup of Mark Sanchez QB, Shonne Greene RB, TE Jeff Cumberland & WR’S of Kerley & Schelines. We are in trouble BIG TIME I think I have a better chance of winning the lotto then the Jets do of winning this game! If we had Revis, Holmes, Steve Hill, Keller & Rex woke up & benched Greene for either Powell or McKnight that would be another thing. But the team we are bringing out there Monday night might be the worst team in the NFL. I think we might be 4 & 12!

  3. By Jersey Joe on Oct 4, 2012 | Reply

    It’s funny but those blocks by Tebow were the two best I’ve seen by a Jet this year! I think Sparano can design about 10 -15 plays specifically for TT, keep it simple for starters. Line him up at TE, he’s already proven to be a better blocker than Keller and he’s GOT to be faster and more explosive (smarter:) than Jeff Stumble-bum. At full-back blocking for McKnight or running the read option. Get him in the flow of the game with Sanchez at QB, then dial up a few deep passes for Tebow, if he has one strength it’s throwing the deep ball. Creativity and the element of surprise was supposed to be the reason Tebow’s here – Now show Houston a dozen plays they’ve never seen from the Jets before – put Pound+ Ground round back in the freezer :D

  4. By Jersey Joe on Oct 4, 2012 | Reply

    If the Jets really want to get the most out of having Tebow – use him at TE, RB, FB and special teams then… cut some dead weight: Cumberland, Connor and Lanster to make room for your 3 best players on the practice squad. I’m dying to see Allen playing a Safety/Linebacker like he did at SC. Bring up Jordan White asap, this kid can catch a bullet in his teeth. Rex was raving about Dowtin and Ricky Sapp in Camp – How bad can they be? We just picked up a corner (Walls) played at Notre Dame, would it surprise anyone if he had better cover skills than Kyle Wilson? Rex should ask Thomas, Scott and Pace to retire at the end of the season – it’s painful to watch these guys struggling, each one has had a decent career, but its time to hang em up.

  5. By scjoe on Oct 4, 2012 | Reply

    Tom Spice, I know I am beginning to sound like a broken record, I think we all are in re: to MS. But let me say this, you are 1000% right that this club is loaded with problems, just about every position, that is a given. BUT….. I have said this before, it is at that point when you need a QB who can carry a team. A QB who can at least sustain some drives in order to keep his D off the field so it would be a little more difficult for the opposition to run through them for 250 yards. Five 3 and outs + 1- INT in a half just can not and will not get it done. That is on Sanchez more then any one else on the roster, as is his 49% completion percentage through 4 games. Just no way to sugar coat it.

  6. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    In other words, Rex Still Dreaming and Acting Like An Eccentric High School Coach. The only way Tebow’s “potential” as a QB will be discovered is by giving him the starting job for a couple of years and committing to him, and I have a feeling we ‘re not gonna be doing that anytime soon. The window-dressing of letting him start the last 3 or 4 games and maybe beat some terrible team by way of 8 completions and 75 yds rushing would be beneath any serious NFL team, which means it’ll be celebrated like a SB win by Rex and the other losers in charge of this pathetic franchise.

  7. By jim rossi on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    Tebow is a great guy but I would have kept Drew Stanton and started him in place of Sanchez at this point. Why have we not seen McElroy?

  8. By Bitter Blinka on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    Rex does not seem the same in his press conferences, he seems already beaten.

    This is shaping up to be a disaster

    Bitter Blinks

  9. By SCfromNY on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    I think it’s time to stop all this Tebow stuff. He is a Brad Smith type of player not a QB. That said I think they should work him more at RB. He is not a prototype RB but the Giants got excellent results with Jacobs, about the same size. By coming in as a RB he can run the ball or take out a pass rusher. He is too much a talent to waste the way the Jets are using him. Notice i did not say QB. Gary Kubiack gets the Tebow award for polite press conferences. If the 49ers beatdown and all the detractors do not get the Jets to perform better Monday it is all over. The way they are playing now they can’t beat anyone. Bradford only threw for 150 yards BUT NO interceptions and 2 TDs. Stats mean nothing it’s how you play to win. Greene needs to sit

  10. By GaryC on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    I am all for tapping into Tebow potential,as in,his potential to get us two picks that we gave up for him.

  11. By GaryC on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    They made a big deal about Tebow and the weight he put on in off season,yeah,now he can’t even avoid the first tackler.Doesn’t have the quickness anymore.

  12. By SCfromNY on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    Strange thinks that make you scratch your head about the Jets. Two 1rst round picks on the DL + Dunbar added as coach and they still have problems. How can the Pats with backup and new OL players rush for 250 yards? Coples = 4 games / 4 tackles. Jones D player of the month. How can the Jets draft so bad. I can not blame this on Woody. I am sure he wants to win. Many NFL teams are rich guys ego boost. They don’t want to be embarassed. Thye season is only 16 games. You do not have time to give all the non performing players so much leeway. What QB is playing worse than Sanchez? What RB is worse than Greene? Last year D was #5 BUT I have saying that they were #15 in points allowed. Points count.

  13. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    The spin game continues: “Ryan said Sanchez’s completion rate is down because, playing catch up, he’s making longer throws than normal. But he’s also missing too many easy completions. He’s had 35 off-target throws, the highest percentage of off-target incompletions in the league, according to ESPN Stats & Information. “Have I missed some throws this year? Absolutely, without question,” said MS, but I’m not going to print the rest because the spectacle of Mark learning how to talk just like his failed big brothers Mike and Rex is just too pathetic to witness. And my response is, “Are we going absolutely nowhere under Woody, Mr T, and Rex? YES!”

  14. By sal cottone on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    As the Rex era is winding down, lets see what other bone head move him and moke make..Iam bewildered with Mr. T, did he just dummy down, and the prodigy Mr. Sanchez, what does he have left. Leads the league at uncatchable passes at 35%. Shottenheimer having a rebirth in St Louis. Owens and Burris both shunned by pure pride. Best this team can hope for is a high draft pick, which do they have to give away? Hope not because from the best team he has had to this, is what”Same Old Jets”!!

  15. By Mike Jet Vet on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    Tebow, made 2 good blocks, this is proof of how desperate talking heads on this team have become, I for one am happy we found some other use for him other then holding a clipboard waiting for this great wildcat we’ve all heard so much about, Spicer being hypothetical. along with his prediction if Sanchez were a Raven he would be a star and Flacco with Jets would be benched. First, Spicer, Ravens would have benched Sanchez after his first season instead of hoping he developed into a QB, .. Second. if Jets would have benched Flacco as you believe why haven’t they benched Sanchez ? do you see mine and so many others here yet, Your loyalty for Sanchez is admiral, it’s your dream. never to be awoken from,

  16. By JetBlue on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    Good news about Monday Night’s game: At least us East-Coasters will be able to hit the sack at half time knowing that the game is already over.
    I wonder what Rex means when he says “we have to play better”? Better than what…when….who? Is there many other teams right now that you would NOT want to trade our Head Coach, RB and QB for theirs? Not many, if any.

  17. By FL.Pete on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    Never fails, i can always come here and find more negativity about the jets than any rival teams website… Now i know why Belichek resigned within 24hrs of the job to go to NE… Really hoping the team does well to see just how many positive posts the “Same ol Jet fans” can make… LOL The Defense will get better, just need more effiency from the Offense… though we lost 2 great players, the Holmes injury may be a blessing in disguise and force sanchez to make the right read instead of locking in on 1 guy then getting sacked… Jets will win this game 20-17..

  18. By kleckofan on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    I said at the end of the last Randy blog that the biggest condemnation of Sanchez and his supporters is the fact that Rex keeps saying he’s an excellent QB. Given Rex’s ability to judge talent that is the ultimate rebuke.
    The article didn’t mention Tebow’s personal protector duties on the blocked punt when Rex says “they rushed one guy”.
    I watched an ESPN “A Football Life” episode about Belichek’s years in Cleveland and his staff there. Many, no most, of his staff are now HC’s or GM’s, a lot of great talent around the NFL and NCAA. I almost gagged when they mentioned Tannebaum, fortunately he wasn’t interviewed.
    Don’t compare Tebow to Brad Smith, Brad could throw.
    Get Gruden

  19. By Gregory Beaumont on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    I was actually excited about getting Tebow in the off season. But why are we not using him to his full potential. For example, why not line up both him and Sanchez in a wildcat formation; this could lead to multiple trick plays like a flee flicker back to Sanchez or Tebow actually throwing the ball. This might not be fair, as it would confuse our opponent’s defense too much. WHY WOULD WE WANT TO DO THAT?

    Also, why are we not giving him a chance? He lead the Broncos to the playoffs, and beat Pittsburgh in his ROOKIE YEAR. It is like no one remembers that.
    He was a quarterback, let him throw. We have no idea how good he could be down the road. He can’t do any worse than Sanchez is right now!!

  20. By Bitter Blinka on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    If they have hey high draft pick THEY MUST TRADE IT. Shall I repeat? Yes I shall:

    Eh, no one cares besides ’64 Tom.

    Bitter Blinka

  21. By joe-retired li/fla on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    hi everyone! i’ve been a jet fan for all their life! once again i’am embarassed to say that. why cann’t we start mc elroy? use sanchez as a flanker(split very wide out-you know the other team will hit him-maybe we can pick-up yardage or first downs on it he is “shell shocked”, put tebow in as te or rb! mc elroy practices with our 2nd string wr-so he knows them. must get 1st downs-keep our defense off the field! only way we can win and not embarassed again! good luck everyone!

  22. By TIM on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    ******** (Once again, TYPICAL…SAME OLD JETS!!!

    1. ONLY the JETS would have a BACK UP (QB), that ***NO OTHER*** team wanted called (TIM TEBOW)!!!

    2. And ONLY the JETS would consider benching one BAD QB (Sanchez), who has the (WORST) Passer rating in the NFL, for an even WORST (QB) called TIM TEBOW!!!

    3. SAME OLD JETS!!) ***************

  23. By kmiller on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    Sanchez has had enough times to prove he is the starter. Guess what, he lost. The only thing I can say about Rex is if they keep losing it won’t just be games, but his job next. Is that enough to light a fire under him. Stop trying to save face Rex, put your big boy pants on and make the hard decisions.

  24. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    FL.Pets, blaming Belichek’s grossly unprofessional moves on JET FANS is the most contrived thing I’ve seen since…since…well, since today’s jobs numbers.

  25. By Mike Jet Vet on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    FL. Pete . Little bill went to NE for greed had nothing to do with NY fans.he broke an agreement Parcells allotted him, Get your story straight , maybe you should go back to these wonderful sites to speak of… Gregory Beaumont . Guess the Broncos didn’t use him to his full potential either,they traded him for what amounts to a Peanut butter and jelly sandwich by NFL standards. then paid PM 100 million, it’s like you don’t remember that .

  26. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    Tremendous piece on Walker, Randy. “Obviously,” as Rex would say, I could make a million snide remarks on how the glory of Walker’s career contrasts with the misery of Rex’s absurd take on the modern NFL pro O, but in honor of Walker I’ll say no more than that. Other than that his induction into the Ring of Honor next Monday will quite likely be the biggest — maybe only — highlight of the evening.

  27. By Charliejet on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    I think this passing league, has thrown any type of parity out the window. There was a time when it was “any given Sunday” I’m not so sure that is around anymore. I know there will be others who disagree with me.

  28. By Chris on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    I’ve said this from the first day we got Tebow: Use him at fullback. He is great at breaking tackles as a runner; he is an aggressive and technically adequate blocker, and he could easily operate option-style plays from the pistol formation by simply putting Sanchez in motion. They apparently feel comfortable using him as a receiver as well, so he could almost be a Mike Tolbert.

  29. By GaryC on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    Hilliard grew up in Kalispell Montana,right next to Glacier National Park,very scenic,he won’t see anything that scenic with the jets.

  30. By SCfromNY on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    I keep reading all the excuses on ESPN and the Jets homepage about the defense. They talk about players not being in the right spot, having the wrong scheme for a play, and missing reads. 17 MISSED TACKLES is part of what is wrong. NO PASS RUSH is what’s wrong. After watching his 2 sons D this week Buddy had a 6 pack and a nap. kleckofan: My comparrison to Brad Smith was meant as a “Jack of All Trades” not QB. Kerley throws better than Tebow. They are afraid to play McElroy because he may make the 2 headed QBs look bad. They are afraid to trade him because he may be great somewhere else. Two more years and free agency. I wish him well.

  31. By JOE on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    Lets put this into perspective THE NY JETS are one of the most snakebit franchises in the NFL. The Denver Bronkos on other hand are one of the most successful.Denver GM (JOHN ELWAY )WAS ONE OF THE BEST QBS IN NFL HISTORY Elway thought so much of TEBOWS POTENTIAL he shipped him to us for ALMOST NOTHING.Elway starting QB was 38 years old coming off 2 MAJOR NECK SURGERYS and hadnt thrown a football in 1.5 years BUT HE DIDNT EVEN WANT TEBOW ON THE ROSTER JUST IN CASE.SAME OLD JETS

  32. By JOE on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    Instead of MORE FANTASYLAND DAYDREAMS lets review HISTORY .Basically the LOMBARDI TROPHY is passed BETWEEN THE SAME 5-6 TEAM TODAY The common denominator being ALL THE TEAMS ITS PASSED TO HAVE ELITE QBS .P Manning,E Manning B Rothesburger ,D Brees ,T Brady ,A Rogers The only thing that matters in the NFL IS WINNING THE SB .To even think about us winning the SB with TEBOW is beyond laughable .(THE GUY COULDNT HIT THE WATER WITH A FOOTBALL THROWING IT FROM THE BEACH )TYPICAL JET DREAMERS LIVING IN A FANTASYLAND OF SB VICTORYS TO COME .Coming up 0n 43 years of FUTILITY

  33. By JOE on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    LOL The simple fact that were engaging in this thread show s the utter desperation brought on by the REALIZATION THAT SANCHEZ AINT ANYTHING MORE THAN ANOTHER IN A LONG LINE OF FAILED HIGH ROUND JET DRAFT PICKS .Jet fans we got to face reality untill we get a GM in here to draft an elite qb WE GOT ABSOLUTITLY POSITIVELY NO SHOT AT WINNING THE SB NONE.As far as the Alabama kid (besides the fact that hes got the arm of a HS QB )Rex -Tanny are not going to WOODY to tell him they wasted 4 years and 75 million on SANCHEZ

  34. By JOE on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    Mike Jet great posts as usual .My personal favorite is when we use our QBs to block down on lineman and linebackers (SPARANOS IDEA NO DOUBT )Mike could you imagine the implications with say a BRADY or one of the Manning Bros )getting hurt trying to block .SAME OLD JETS

  35. By Barker on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Tim there were 4 other teams interested in Tebow for your information. People constantly saying he cant throw and never will should get paid for knowing the future. NO ONE knows what he will develop into. If you can’t tell MS completion rate is just as dismal as Tim’s were so are you going to say he can’t throw too? Man, do you people realize how many other teams are 2-2 right with us? Heck even NO is 0-4. It is early in the season. I had to laugh at the guy who posted earlier about how we should try McElroy since he has won championships at every level because the same can be said about Tebow but don’t dare say it because people will say it doesn’t matter.

  36. By Barker on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    I just hope Tebow will find a coach who believes in him as much as Rex believes in MS. Just look at SF and Alex Smith. It took 7 years for him to find the coach who believes in him and now look at his team.

  37. By GaryC on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    draft picks only mean nothing to teams who don’t know how to use them.

  38. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    SCfromNY, you obviously know how to watch QB play, unlike some that I could regretfully name on this very site. Kerley’s Wildcat pass last yr was not just the best pass of the season, it was better than almost any pass Sanchez has thrown as a Jet. And your pt about the Jets being afraid to either play or trade McElroy is equally brilliant, which is why I’m hoping the Jets wake up and get a HC who understand something about offense before Mc is no longer a Jet.

  39. By Jake on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    JOE good point about Elway and what he thought of Tebow.

  40. By Charliejet on Oct 6, 2012 | Reply

    Moved to New Hampshire from Long Island over 10 years ago. Still love my NY Jets – always will. But boy I get pounded by the fans up here always after the games are over, never before the game starts but always after. But now since the injuries to Revis and Holmes they can’t wait to play the Jets. Pats fans – cowards. It ain’t easy going to work hearing it week in week out. The only comeback I have is after that 45-3 route 2 years ago, then knocking pats out of the playoffs 28-21
    several weeks later….that with the rivalry between these 2 teams is 51-50 in favor of the Jets (Wikipedia). Then out of desperation I remind them of the “18-1″ so now I use the Giants to help me save face! Dark days my friends and it is getting darker.

  41. By Charliejet on Oct 6, 2012 | Reply

    Which reminds me. I have heard over the years that we need our own stadium. Tom 64 just mentioned that what? Last week I believe. Metlife stadium will always have the stamp of Giants stadium and the Jets play “at” that stadium not in there own stadium. Woody if you want to own NY then play IN NY with your own stadium in Manhattan. That alone would put the NYJ on another level. It would drive the Giants crazy and I guarantee the papers would have it NY Jets and NJ Giants just to start the “cross river” rivalry. It is not the answer to everything but it would be a great start to cleaning house on every level for this “semi-pro” team. Believe me it doesn’t give me any pleasure to use the term semi-pro but that’s what it feels like at times.

  42. By GaryC on Oct 6, 2012 | Reply

    Tebow going low to bring down the hands of the rushing lineman,I keep wondering why I never see that when jets throw screen passes,the d linemen are never cut,same with the d linemen on jets,why don’t they ever use their hands to swat the o lines hands down to get around for some sacks,serious flaw in coaching.

  43. By GaryC on Oct 6, 2012 | Reply

    Guys need to stop reading prospective draft picks out of the draft reports,listing their heights,weights and speed,there is more to it then that,watch the games,if that was the case 5’9 emmitt smith and 5’7 jones-drew would not have been drafted.

  44. By GaryC on Oct 6, 2012 | Reply

    Randy, do you have the last time a jet linebacker returned a fumble or interception back for a touchdown,I might have missed one,but it seems like it has been awhile.

  45. By Randy Lange on Oct 6, 2012 | Reply

    GaryC, the last Jets linebacker to return an interception for a touchdown was David Harris last season at Baltimore. The last Jets LB to return a fumble for a TD was Calvin Pace against St. Louis in 2008.

  46. By RON ALEXANDER on Oct 6, 2012 | Reply

    FL.Pete, I’m think’n you dont see all the negativity on other teams sites for 2 main reasons; First off, their fans havn’t had to endure 40+ years of mostly misery we as Jet fans have! Secondly, Real Jets fans care! Unlike the apathetic fans in many other cities the people who frequent this blog are mostly long time Jet fans who have had to put up with gross incompetence and are quite simply frustrated and at this point angry. Dude, the PSL costs for my seats are $20 grand apiece. 2 game tickets @$250 per plus the $50 parking $12 beers,ect,ect! So if you dont think we have a right to expect a better product for what we have invested than I dont think anyone here would want to be in business with you!

  47. By sal cottone on Oct 6, 2012 | Reply

    BB, I agrre with you, they could draft pure talent and screw them up, but what I was getting at, I dont know where they stand as far as picks, The players players they signed, how many were trade (tebow) and how many picks were included in the trades, A break down pf it by Randy would be great when it becomes apparent thats the way they are heading, but being a Jets fan means still have hope! Iam sure with that being said, we are all just into torture, cause we live it year after year

  48. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 6, 2012 | Reply

    Yes, Charliejet, actually being the New York Jets instead of the New Jersey Jets would do this franchise a world of good.

  49. By JOE on Oct 6, 2012 | Reply

    Barker your right JOHN ELWAY(one of the greatest QBS in NFL HISTORY WAS WRONG ABOUT TEBOW).So just exactly WHEN does Tebow START THROWING THE BALL LIKE Brady Rothesburger Manning Bros ect The last time i ckecked Tebow had a completition percentage and QB RATING in the low 40s ..pS There are other 500 teams how many of them havent beat a winning team in almost 2 years According how many of them have been DESTROYED BY THE LAST 4 SB CALIBER TEAMS THEY FACED (CHECK THE SCORES OF US VERSES NE2X LAST YEAR BALT LAST YEAR SF THIS YEAR.

  50. By JOE on Oct 6, 2012 | Reply

    lol BESIDES us what teams wanted Tebow .(CLEV,JACKSONVILLE ,OAKLAND,ECT )

  51. By FL.Pete on Oct 6, 2012 | Reply

    First off, Ron Alexander this is not about me, this is about you as a fan having more faith in your team… Regardless of your tenure as a Jet fan, your negativity is not wanted by the players, coaches, and other jets fans that still expect good things out of the team… Its funny how all the 40 year fans have this opinion that their tenure earns them the right to bash the organization every chance they get… You are the ones that go to the games to BOOO your team so maybe someone else needs take those expenses off your hands since they cause you so much grief…

  52. By ELI RODRIGUEZ on Oct 6, 2012 | Reply


  53. By Ryano on Oct 7, 2012 | Reply

    I think Tebow could be a positive influence on this team if somebody gave him more of a chance. The guy is a bonafide weapon if used properly. I get that the team isn’t stacked with talent, and is even more dire straits with the loss of several key players, but it’s already starting to look like Sparano is a bust at OC. I’m not sure he knows how to utilize the talent that he DOES have. And there’s still talent there. Put Tebow in and ride him for a while. What could be the harm? Let’s see if Sanchez is the competitor and team player I suspect he might be if demoted for a while.

  54. By sal cottone on Oct 7, 2012 | Reply

    Ryano, I agree, and Tebow is in a bad situ, he was sold a bag of goods to by REx and co, who really dont have a clue. As far as Iam concerned, not saying Shootenheimer is some one I regret they let go, but picture is clearer to me that he taken the rap,for by me and many others for everything. Bottom line if the offence cant give the D a break during the game which has been a problem last year also,with or without Tim, what we have seen latly will continue. If there is a package for him, now is the time to use it, if not how can we think there was ever one!

  55. By sal cottone on Oct 7, 2012 | Reply

    Dont think anyone including Revis is coming back if they can get out!

  56. By scjoe on Oct 7, 2012 | Reply

    Ron Alexander, you really can’t take a guy like Fl Pete seriously. He comes to the site on occasion, offers nothing, then picks and chooses posts he considers to be “negative” he don’t look past his nose and realize the posts aren’t really negative, but realistic. Somehow, in the alternate universe he is living in he thinks that all is well in Jet land, and sugar coating their failures will somehow give them an edge on the playing field, and after all, they are tied for 1st place in their division. Oh, and God forbid one of those “negative” posters happens to be a 40 year fan, then he can put his spin on that as well. See the forest through the trees Fla Pete, or you can always jump to Dolphin web sites.

  57. By sal cottone on Oct 7, 2012 | Reply

    To add to Tom Spicers post, what that got me thinking, Have they had the same reciving core in the Ryan. How in the world is that going to help any QB or team develope. PS will go to game, got sect. 111 w/ parking on the cheap, legally!

  58. By Joe on Oct 7, 2012 | Reply

    To the FAITH HEALERS out there the last time i checked this is the NFL (NOT THE LOCAL HS OR D-3 NON COLLEGE )The only reason players are paid millions of dollars per year is to win the SB Their record indicates the JETS ARE ONE OF THE MOST FUTILE ORGANIZATIONS IN THE NFL INTURN THE FANS HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINION -BASH THE ORGANIZATION ECT (last time i checked nobody on the team was giving their salary back )If the team wanys to avoid the neg criticism ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS WIN

  59. By Joe on Oct 7, 2012 | Reply

    Eli while the game is played 10 yards at a time a QB NEEDS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF ARM STRENGTH .Both Manning brothers,Rothesburger,Brady Rogers Brees all have it Mcelroy DEFINATELY DOES NOT THATS WHY HE WAS DRAFTED WHEN HE WAS. SPECIFICALLY if you every reviewed a QB critique one of the most important areas is ARM STRENGH OR CAN THE PROSPECT MAKE ALL THE THROWS ON THE FIELD Remember a guy called Chad Pennington how many super bowls did he win (and thats all that matters )

  60. By Joe on Oct 7, 2012 | Reply

    Cont ITS A SEVERE LIMITATION to an offence when a defence knows the qb can not beat them deep ( DEF CORD PLAY PREES COVERAGE EVERYWHERE )As per CHAD PENNINGTON sooner or later the physical inability catches up

  61. By kleckofan on Oct 8, 2012 | Reply

    SCNY- no sweat on the Brad Smith/Tebow comparison, said in geste mostly. The whole situation is unfathomable.
    Fl Pete- 40 yr fans have, in fact, earned the right to Bit@h, especially 40 yr fans whose IQ is larger than their shoe size (see mirror).
    JFT64- loved the jobs report comment, stagnant for months, no, for yrs, then the largest monthly increase one month before the election. Man, if Woody could pull strings like that we’d be collecting Lombardis!
    Not looking forward to tomorrow night; unless it further drives home the point of “no talent”. Lots of teams this aft’ w lots of great young kids
    Get Gruden

  62. By sal cottone on Oct 8, 2012 | Reply

    Smith/sanchez had time to develop there thing, as did leon, and all the players they basically let go, all the players they had that were here before Ryan had time to gether, ans systematically let go. I dont know thier expectations on bringing players to replace that, talent wise i dont think they mproved and to top it off the time those players gone had that anyone they brought in wont have is time together, Plus the recivers changing last 2 years, how is that progress, and how can you exspect sucess, just dont make sense!

  63. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 8, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe and kleckofan, agree with you about FL.Pete’s strange malady, he must be the most easily satisfied man in the country. Joe, keep up the good work on QBs. The attempts to make excuses for the obviously under-performing Sanchez will eventually collapse under the weight of their own absurdity, but probably not until both him and Rex are long gone.

  64. By sal cottone on Oct 8, 2012 | Reply

    Bottom line they are a bad team, will not finiish 500, Doubt Tebow is going to save them like Denver even if he starts, and next year we are going to have a new GM, Head coach and staff, like always, and alot of the players worth keeping will not be here if they have an out.
    Woody sat there and watched a playoff team get dimantled right under his nose, which means if he dosnt have a competant football man under him, this is the Hess era all over again. If you look at the team as a hole right now, there are no bright spots. 50% 3rd down defence, the secondary the cornerstone of the D is Avg at best, wont even touch offence. And you say we dont have the right to say so. GET LOST!

  65. By RON ALEXANDER on Oct 9, 2012 | Reply

    FL.Pete, Are you freak’n kidding? When you team gets beaten like a drum (the S.F score should have been at least 42-0 but the back-up Q.B. slid down on what would have been an easy t.d.? Come on man, are we supposed to be happy and joyous in Jetville with the apathetic attitude and play of this team. Look Pete, if your not a part of the soloution you are part of the problem dude! If your gonna just sit on your hands in the stands and smile while opponents are kick’n your teams butts all over the field mabey you need to stay home! And bye the way, I doubt anyone connected to the Jets reads these posts so I’m think’n we are not hurting anyones feelings here! Wishful think’n on that one!

  66. By sal cottone on Oct 9, 2012 | Reply

    Since there is no post on the MNF game, lets talk about how it seemed that the players are resigned to the fact that they re not good, afyetr the game. No more on the post game report. Now they made the big deal about Tebow, sure all saw the # of plays they had for him, probably didnt need the wrist band. Lets start him, why not and dont give me anything about accuracy, sanchez isnt no sharp shooter either, and his characture is showing even more after the Houston game, cant listen to the kid no more. They went with Green for ground and pound the had taken one of the best O lines in the NFL afew seasons ago, to this, they had taken one of the best D’s in the NFL to this etc. Didnt Mr. T help build the playoff teams? who screwed this up?

  67. By Joe on Oct 9, 2012 | Reply

    Tom broken its a 42 plus year old broken record around here ..As we both have said untill REX,Mike T and approx half this rooster go it will never change

  68. By sal cottone on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Its apparent they got to go unless there is a rabbit in the hat trick, which was supposed to be Tebow, with that how we believe anything they say. He stands on the sidelines> But my point is Rex was given a playoff team! 2 playoff trips, w/ one a winnable game away to the SB, to this joke, in less than 2 seasons, now the next group have to start from scratch. And we get to watch a rebuild again. iam too old for this rebuild. If they though all the sideshows would over shadow the other new York team, change who you are and personnel in the off season , and win well they are just Dumb to boot!

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