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A Multipurpose Pad-Popping Practice Period

Posted by Randy Lange on October 5, 2012 – 5:40 pm

Today’s practice at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center was kind of a cooling-down day from Rex Ryan’s special “Bloody Nose Wednesday, Special Thursday Edition” that he conducted the day before.

“We put in an extra period Wednesday, a little eight-minute period,” said the Jets head coach of the idea suggested by OL coach Dave DeGuglielmo to fire up the team in general and two areas in particular, the rushing offense and the run defense. “It was ones vs. ones, your base power boss running game against the defense. It was all runs, one play-actoin. We put our guys out there, put the ball down and said, ‘Let’s have at it.’

“I challenged our guys to really compete against each other, and the only way you get better is when you go full-speed against each other. And that’s what we did. It was an outstanding period, to the point where I’m like, ‘Oh, man, is that it?’ The period was over and I wished we could keep going.”

There are obvious restrictions, both CBA and coaching-wise, on having slam-bam practices like this. Only one full-pads practice is allowed per week, so Thursday was it for the Jets. It wasn’t tackling to the ground — that’s a sure way to get some more in-season injuries — but it was close.

“The backs, the quarterbacks, the receivers, we took care of them,” said rookie DT Quinton Coples. “But in the trenches, it was a dirty world.”

“We just had to get back to fundamentals,” said LB Nick Bellore. “Sometimes you get caught up in keeping each other healthy, but sometimes you’ve just got to go full-speed.”

“I don’t think it’s fun for nobody,” said Coples. “It’s old-school football, best man wins every rep.”

While it wasn’t necessarily fun, it seems the players as well as Ryan and his coaches knew something had to be tried, to help the OL work on staying on its blocks, the DL to get off blocks and cut down on the coaches’  count of 17 missed tackles vs. San Francisco, and equally important to jolt the team from any lingering 49ers doldrums in time to tackle the undefeated Texans on Monday night.

Ryan said the eight minutes of pad-popping intensity was worth it.

“It was just the focus, guys really competing against each other, knowing that’s what we have to do to get better,” he said. “If you’re not working hard, you’re not going to get better. So it’s a win-win situation. When you put that kind of emphasis on it, you’re taking care of each other by competing at a 100 percent level against each other.”

Will it achieve the desired effects? We’ll see the results in three nights’ time.

Howard’s Tunes

We checked in with RT Austin Howard the other week about the music he listens to as he warms up to play in a game. He gave a few names of his favorite old-school pregame performers — Sam Cooke and Marcel Howard.

That Cooke guy we’ve heard of. But Marcel who?

Austin’s brother, of course.

“Marcel lives in Chicago and one of his hobbies is putting together beats, tracks,” Howard said. “He sends them to me usually Friday night or Saturday night when I get to the team hotel.”

A Windy City musician, then?

“It’s just one of his hobbies, but he has worked with some artists,” he said. “He does all instrumental music. He has his own unique style, not specifically hip-hop, whatever he feels.”

If Howard appears to be feeling it against the Texans’ J.J. Watt, Connor Barwin, Brooks Reed and company, we could credit the all-in-the-family tunes that got his mind right in the hours before opening kickoff.

Injury Reports

Friday is like Thursday this week when it comes to injury reports.

And just as they have most weeks this year, they’ve added another player to their report as the week has gone on. Today it’s RB-KOR(-DB?) Joe McKnight, who was sent home with an illness and did not participate in practice. He’s the 25th Jet listed this week.

There are three other changes from Thursday’s list. LBs Bart Scott (toe) and Bryan Thomas (hamstring) were limited after not working yesterday. And S LaRon Landry (heel) spent his usual middle practice day of the week as a DNP.

Ryan was non-committal about his non-participants, in particular TE Dustin Keller and WR Stephen Hill, both sidelined with hamstring issues. “The fact that they’re now out another day of practice isn’t good,” he said, adding, “I know they’re making improvements, they’re making strides.”

The Texans added LG Wade Smith (knee) as a DNP today. Along with C Chris Myers (back, full) and G Antoine Caldwell (ankle/knee, limited), their three interior OL starters are on the list. So are three of their biggest skill players: RB Arian Foster (hamstring, full), WR Andre Johnson (groin, limited) and TE Owen Daniels (thigh, limited). They’re listing 17 players on their latest report.

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28 Responses to “A Multipurpose Pad-Popping Practice Period”

  1. By joeyjets12fla on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    again with the injuries. hope the players are happy with there new collective bargaining deal. i’m also really excited about the tunes howard listens to.

  2. By Ray Carey on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    I think Austin Howard should be listening to Bob Seger’s “”Roll Me Away”. Wiith all of the hamstring injuries, I’d look at the strenght and conditioning coaches and the type of stretching the team does before practice and games. Seems like a disproportionate number of hamstrings are injured on this team

  3. By PSL holder getting robbed on Oct 5, 2012 | Reply

    Here’s an idea Rex. Try starting Mac at QB and Tebow at RB. Anything would be better than this pathetic excuse for an offense. I’ll take my chances w/ 2 players from big time winning programs. MS is just another USC bust and SG doesn’t scare anybody. If not, I’ll take a new regime running this show and maybe we can get a real football team!!!!

  4. By scjoe on Oct 6, 2012 | Reply

    64, to keep it current, bottom line, if there ever was a bottom line. A “competent” GM who goes out and drafts potentially elite players “at least” in the top of the draft like (Mathews, Dalton, Greene, and you know I don’t mean Shonn, Pierre Paul, Watts, Von Miller, Aldon Smith, Peterson, et. etc. etc. and etc.) would make Rex Ryan look like the 2nd coming of Vince Lombardi. That’s all it takes to transform an average HC into a great one. What part of that aren’t you getting? You talk about Rex “developing” young players, you think he could have developed any of the above mentioned? Do you think Lombardi could have developed Gholston or Greene or even Sanchez for that matter? c’mon man, just say no to SOJ logic and musical chair HCs

  5. By Frank Verde on Oct 6, 2012 | Reply

    People see the world through a prism of their biases. In the midst of sloppy technique, execution and injuries, the ‘hang-‘em-high-sweep-everyone-out contingent’ is resonating loudly. Eh. As a contrarian I find, more often, the devil is in the details. Amazingly, Casserly’s “Blame Game” interview on NFL Network is a rational piece. My agenda is not about sweeping out Rex & company. It’s about making the playoffs and taking our chances. It’s a very long shot and it starts with damage control. Hold Hill and Keller out until they’ve healed. Make inroads into restoring technique and execution. With the damaged offense, throw the kitchen sink at Houston—including more TT. Do anything that might eat the clock. Look to week 6.

  6. By Mike Jet Vet on Oct 6, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry if I Insult Joe McKnight, He’s sick again? hate me curse me I care not. Rex has a double practice works the players somewhat harder, and again Joe gets sick, I’ll remind everyone again about him getting sick losing his lunch in practices. seems like he can’t cut it in the NFL , also, I’ve said numerous times, reason why he can’t break into a staring role, one more PERFECT EXAMPLE , Danny wood head is flourishing in NE runnin catching scoring TD’s last 3 seasons..JM is still watching from the sidelines, this just gets better and better, Hey Rex little late to start working these guys hard now isn’t it? half the team is injured already.

  7. By GaryC on Oct 6, 2012 | Reply

    You need not to fire Rex yet,many great head coaches who were defensive geniuses hired good offensive coordinators,time will tell with Sparano,even Rex is starting to believe he needs to infuse youth and speed into team,my man Fassel is still out there for o cooridinator if Sparano Fails.If this year proves anything rely more on what a player can become then what one has done.

  8. By Ronald T on Oct 6, 2012 | Reply

    Try putting on a game film or two of teams that play to win. They call plays that if successful gain the yards needed. Not always throw short and expect the player to juke around a tackle for the 1st down. Then do not play” not to lose”.Run plays to your strength,because you are not going to fool most of the teams on a regular basis. Most of all don’t stop playing just because you have a lead(like with Buffalo) as that leads to bad habits that are most difficult to overcome down the line. When things do not go well, make adjustments. Try something different. Not the same old thing.For crying out loud,make it look like you’re trying.

  9. By Stevesc on Oct 6, 2012 | Reply

    It seems obvious to me that since the players around the league have been coddled by the CBA’s new rules, there have been more injuries than before it became effective. This especially seems to be the case with the JET’s. I agree with Ray Carey that there is an inordinate amount of hamstring injuries on this team. Lack of physical contact in practice has not prepared the player’s for game time contact, and it shows up on Sunday. Look at how many injuries have occurred due to non contact. Revis, Holmes and Keller come to mind as well as some others. The new rules under the CBA were suppose to protect the players, but it appears that it has had the opposite effect.

  10. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 6, 2012 | Reply

    There’s no doubt Rex would do better with a better GM, scjoe. But to answer you in Romney Power Point style (1) If the Jets aren’t going to let Rex “buy the groceries,” they should hire a HC whom they’ll let do that (2) Rex can’t work miracles, but he’d have better players on O if he knew anything about O (3) Rex’s failure to capitalize on young players’ gifts (McKnight is the most obvious example) and stick with those who need work (benching Wilson after 2 games) stands in marked contrast to any good NFL HC, and (4) He also foolishly rushes players like Sanchez who need work, which you sure can’t say Lombardi did with Starr.

  11. By scjoe on Oct 6, 2012 | Reply

    64, maybe, just MAYBE, Wilson, McKnight, and Sanchez (Tannenbaum products) aren’t quite, Peterson, Spiller or Dalton! I am sure, without quoting anybody, that Rex would have excelled at “developing” any one of those three who happen to play the same positions but are doing pretty well somewhere else, even without that seller coaching, they are doing just fine. Why do you think that is? . It is all relative my friend.

  12. By scjoe on Oct 6, 2012 | Reply

    Stevesc, exactly!!! You nailed it. I have been saying it since the inception of the new CBA agreement, it will hurt the product that is put out on the field, it will hurt the game. And it has already. Pro football players need to train and they need to practice in order to keep up the standards that we as fans have become accustomed to. Without the fans, where is the NFL? They want to go out of their way to keep the players safe, well, what do we have now? More injuries then any season in current memory. Do you think it backfired? Do you think anyone would admit it?

  13. By SCfromNY on Oct 6, 2012 | Reply

    There is this new assumption that the CBA is responsible for all these injuries. If that was true all teams would be in the same boat. While not a fan of Alosi, (my son played HS ball with him), his conditioning program seemed to work. The coach who replaced him seems to come from the “anyone can be an ass’t. coach”. thought process. As long as Rex likes him and crowns him “the best . . . ” all will be well.

    PLEASE NO FASSEL. I know no one believes you can be a Jet and Giant fan but I am and you do not want Fassel.

  14. By Bitter Blinka on Oct 7, 2012 | Reply

    ’64 Tom

    How do you know that Rex had other than something to do with the draft picks.
    Maybe he’s the problem?

    Bitter Blinka

  15. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 7, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe, your last post here isn’t as clear as usual, it’s as if you took some lessons from the first-debate Obama playbook to formulate it. How can you call Sanchez or Wilson “Tannenbaum products”? Rex was over the moon about these two guys from the second they were drafted. The only reason he backed off KW and has never done so with MS is because it’s a heck of a lot easier to bench a CB/PR than a QB. As for your long sentence about his coaching these guys vs other players, I’ve read it three times and can honestly say I don’t understand it. Please rephrase it. Are you saying that Rex would be good at grooming players if only ALL our draft choices weren’t terrible? If so, I find that hard to believe on both counts.

  16. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 7, 2012 | Reply

    I’m gonna re-direct your question about Rex to scjoe, Blinka, because that’s exactly what I’ve been saying to him! After all, the players that Rex has publicly said he pushed like crazy for — Sanchez, Wilson, Conner — are some of our biggest disappointments to date unless they turn it around. But Jet fans like Ira and FL.Pete — I sometimes wonder if they’re bigger fans of LOSING than they are of the Jets — love to talk about these guys like we just drafted them a yr or so ago! Like with talk in D.C. of the federal deficit and Social Security, the talk among a lot of Jet fans is, “Let’s see what happens…” That should probably be the Jets banner slogan in the stands every Sunday, “LET’S SEE WHAT HAPPENS! LET’S SEE WHAT HAPPENS!”

  17. By scjoe on Oct 7, 2012 | Reply

    64, c’mon man! Sanchez, Wilson and McKnight are Tannenbaum picks, NOT Rex Ryan picks since he has no say in personnel decisions which you seem to contend he does. THAT, is pretty clear. Peterson, Spiller and Dalton are excelling because they have the talent Wilson, McKnight and Sanchez lacks! That is pretty clear too, isn’t it? Had Rex had Dalton, Peterson and Spiller as opposed to Tannenbaum picks Sanchez, Wilson and McKnight I don’t think we would be sitting here having this conversation about Rex “developing young players” would we? Now, tell me, exactly what don’t you understand about that logic? Do you think Dalton, Peterson and Spiller would NOT excel with Rex as a HC? Do you think MS, McKnight and Wilson would?

  18. By scjoe on Oct 7, 2012 | Reply

    64, as for Rex being “over the moon” about these picks means Nothing! Zero! Zilch! He is “over the moon” about EVERY pick EVERY year. Just as he relates to ALL of his players as “the best in the league” That is just Rex being Rex. Don’t read anything else into that.

  19. By scjoe on Oct 7, 2012 | Reply

    Further 64, He can NOT bench Sanchez, not with out the express written consent of both Mike Tannenbaum AND Woody Johnson. I am not saying that he is the only coach in the NFL who lacks the authority to draft who he wants, when he wants, and to play who he wants, when he wants, he is just among them!

  20. By GaryC on Oct 8, 2012 | Reply

    Don’t you guys ever think it is about coaching,Patriots are getting rushing from this free agent guy from Mississippi let alone from Ridley and Vereen,the giants never go away from their game plan even with Nicks and Barden out,They continue to throw the ball down the field and complete passes to Reuben Randle.it is more about Schemes and Techniques and paying attention in the classroom.

  21. By joeyjets12fla on Oct 8, 2012 | Reply

    combine the CBA and the time the head, and assstants, strength and conditioning coaches have with this team, and its a recipe for disaster. Hughan 2 years, Galac 1 year, and Ricci 1 year.

  22. By scjoe on Oct 8, 2012 | Reply

    GaryC, the Patriots have something the Jets do not have at most all of the skill positions, TALENT! I think I could coach that group and they wouldn’t skip a beat. So much for your theory on “coaching” As I am presently trying to explain to 64, talent, especially elite talent, can make any HC look great. Just look what it did for Jim Caldwell in your home state, see what happened the following year without that “elite” talent at THEE most important position? Did he simply forget how to coach the following year? Elite talent across the board= an elite HC, good talent= a “good” HC, NO talent across the board = in most cases, a HC who will lose his job sooner rather then later.

  23. By kleckofan on Oct 8, 2012 | Reply

    Wow, lots of issues here…
    Let me say that when I first heard Rex say that they were taking an extra day off to get the coaches together to decide “what to do”, “how to fix things” I was flabbergasted. What? After 4 games we’re putting our heads together to re-group?
    Then the epiphany is an extra session of nutcrackers? As I said, its too late if we need to teach guys how to block and tackle, you DON’T DRAFT GUYS that can’t block and tackle, this is the NFL! How “high school”.
    “Development”, it seems to me, as it’s being used here is really scheme. One guy excels in the scheme (Woodhead in NE) and he looks like he’s been “developed” another doesn’r excel and he’s under-developed (McKnight). It’s chicken or the egg stuff.

  24. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 8, 2012 | Reply

    I’ll refer you to GaryC’s comments about coaching, scjoe, especially since he picks the best possible example in NE, an org that seems to be able to get results out of almost anyone sometimes. But I’ll add that the main thing I don’t get in your arguments is your certainty that Rex has nothing to do with certain or all picks. Until you can prove this to me, I have to base my thinking on objective reality, like his ridiculous defenses of Sanchez for the last few yrs. Then again, Rex is the guy who thinks he’s going to be the Jets’ HC for at least ten yrs…

  25. By RON ALEXANDER on Oct 8, 2012 | Reply

    STEVE SC, I said the very same thing during the o.t.a’s and pre-season. And I agree 100% with your assesment. One can only wonder if the leadership of the players union will at some point grasp this fact and allow its membership to reconsider its posisition. Its still relatively early in the season and the injury totals will only escalate as the wheather turns colder. The muscles take longer to warm up and more attention needs to be paid to staying loose as well. In addition the field tends to be harder as the ground freezes and injuries (concussions) mount as a result.This is an excellent point you brought up.I only wish the people in posisition to make changes cared as much as we do?

  26. By RON ALEXANDER on Oct 8, 2012 | Reply

    GUYS, I had some time off the past few days and popped in some tapes from the Dan Henning days when we were the inovaters not the copy-cats.I miss the days when we lined up our recievers in the ‘bunch formation and defences freaked out as they had no clue how to defend it.This would be a great time to come up with some” out of the box” stratagy. A simple fact of life is David had no shot against Goliath with out his trusty sling-shot! When you play a team like S.F or Houston who is clearly superior you need a sling-shot or in this case you need to show them somthing they have not seen before.If you can get them off balance you have a chance to push them over.Nothing creates doubt like uncertianty.If we line up and try to out slug -

  27. By RON ALEXANDER on Oct 8, 2012 | Reply

    -this team the results will no doubt be much the same as last weeks game. On the other hand if we can score first on a trick play and follow that up forceing a quick turn over our confidence will rise, and theirs will sudside which will create the doubt we need to have any shot tonight. Of course thats a lot of if’s but what the heck?
    GO JETS!!!!

  28. By davetharave on Oct 8, 2012 | Reply

    If we had kept Wooden head and cut McKnoght 2 years ago, Wooden head would be a KC Chiefs special teams player today, and McKnight would be the featured halfback gaining 1400 yds a season in NE’s offense.

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