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Still Much Respect, No Concessions for Patriots Week

Posted by Randy Lange on October 15, 2012 – 5:50 pm

The conservative way to play it would have been to say yes, New England’s up next, it’s important because it’s a division rival, no more, and why don’t we talk about the Patriots on Wednesday when we really start up our week of preparation, and let’s bask one more day today in the warm afterglow of Sunday’s satisfying win over the Colts.

But Rex Ryan didn’t play it that way at his day-after news conference. The media wanted to know his latest take on the Pats. And he didn’t disappoint.

Are the Patriots, at 3-3 like everyone else and his brother in the AFC East, more vulnerable than they had been in the past? the Jets head coach was asked.

“Are they more vulnerable? I don’t know. They’ve lost three games. That’s probably more than they normally lose in a season,” Ryan said. “But we need to worry about ourselves more than anybody else. I think that’s where we’re at today, tomorrow, or some of our preparation even on Wednesday, but we obviously have to dial into our opponent specifically as well. For us to get to where we want to get to, we have to improve ourselves. I think that’s what we’re really working on doing as well.”

So when did he begin thinking about the Patriots?

“I’ve never stopped thinking about the Patriots, but that’s it,” he said with a laugh. “That’s a team we have to beat to win our division. And obviously Buffalo and Miami are improved, not taking anything away from them, but the team that’s won our division since I’ve been the head coach here is always New England. That’s the one you have to beat for sure. You think about them, you even build your roster sometimes in trying to compete, trying to beat this team. You’re always thinking about them.”

We’ve never known Rex to diss the Patriots. Even when he was talking about not having “come here to kiss Belichick’s rings,” it wasn’t to run down Bill Belichick’s, Tom Brady’s and New England’s successes but rather to let them, plus the Jets’ fans, players and reporters, know that he wouldn’t be going into these games with his hat in his hand.

Still, some take Ryan’s belief in his team when it’s Patriots week to somehow be disrespectful toward one of the NFL’s great franchises. Thus a reporter’s question today about why Rex likes to “tweak” the Patriots. Ryan explained his position again.

“Well, I just think that I want them to know — and they know — that I think we’re going to beat them. I don’t buy into all that other stuff,” he said. “Look, I recognize that they’re a great football team. Belichick’s a great coach. I never once said that he wasn’t. Again, we’re not going to back down or concede to anything. They’re going to get our best shot, we know we’re going to get theirs, so it really doesn’t matter who says what. We are going to be ourselves.

“We’re coming up there to take our swing, and we’ll see if we land that punch to win a game.”

Jets visits to Foxboro have been a mixed bag this millennium, with some magnificent victories and some resounding defeats. But the Jets needed something like their plus-margin win over the Colts (plus-4 in takeaways, plus-211 rushing yards, plus-7:20 in possession time and plus-26 on the scoreboard) to fortify them for the swings they are about to take.

More on Jets-Patriots to come on Wednesday, plus we’ll unveil a remarkable first in franchise history from Jets-Colts that not even Rex Ryan knew about and is quite happy with.

Smitty Weighs In

Reporter John Holt notes that S Eric Smith always gets excited this time of year, and his reason for excitement isn’t due to Halloween quickly approaching. Instead, like with their head coach, it’s because he and his teammates begin preparation this week to face Tom Brady and the Patriots.

“It’s a big rivalry for us,” Smith said this afternoon. “It’s a division game. We’re both at the top right now. You know it’s usually going to be a good game.”

Over the years, the AFC East foes have had plenty of intriguing battles. Last year New England defeated the Jets in both the team’s meetings, winning, 30-21, in Foxboro and 37-16 five weeks later at MetLife Stadium. But in 2010, the Green & White overcame the Patriots’ impressive 14-2 regular season by defeating Brady & Co., 28-21, in the AFC Divisional Round Game, which advanced them to the conference championship for the second year in a row.

Both teams will enter Sunday’s contest with 3-3 records and knotted up a top of the AFC East standings. The Jets are coming off a 35-9 win over Indianapolis, while New England will look to bounce back from a 24-23 loss at Seattle. Regardless of the Pats’ record, Smith knows they are still the team to beat in the division.

“You know they’re going to come ready to play and cause a lot of problems in matchups, and things we’re going to have to deal with,” he said.

The seventh-year pro is optimistic that the offseason additions of safeties LaRon Landry and Yeremiah Bell boost the secondary’s ability to slow down New England’s high powered offense.

“We do have a lot of guys that can cover and play man-to-man well, so that might give us a little bit of an advantage,” Smith said. “But with this offense they’re running, it’s up-tempo. It’s going to put a lot of stress on us.”

As a member of the Jets defense, Smith said game-planning for New England’s offense always presents a challenge because not only can they spread defenses out with their passing game but this season have proven they can beat opponents on the ground as well.

“Guys are just going to have to get off blocks and run to the ball,” he said.

To emulate the Patriots’ up-tempo offense, No. 33 said the scout team will move at a faster pace this week in practice. He added that the Jets faced a similar task when they prepared for Miami earlier this season.

“It’s a rivalry game,” Smith said. “It’s one of the ones you’re up for no matter what.”

RB Ups and Downs

For the Jets running game, there were many highlights besides those already mentioned Sunday. Shonn Greene started cooking in the first quarter when the Jets rushed for 57 yards, a seemingly modest amount and yet their most in any quarter in the last 11 games, or since they gained 58 in the opening frame of the home win over Buffalo last year.

That distinction stood only until the third quarter, when McKnight’s 61-yard dash was the centerpiece of the 97-yard rushing quarter, the most in any quarter in the last 25 games, or since that “other” Bills game, when they rushed for 96 yards in the 2010 regular-season finale.

The downside was that on the same series, McKnight (ankle) and Bilal Powell (shoulder) left the game. Ryan today said both backs are undergoing magnetic resonance imaging exams today and that he would update reporters on their injuries on Wednesday.

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96 Responses to “Still Much Respect, No Concessions for Patriots Week”

  1. By Ron Alexander on Oct 15, 2012 | Reply

    There were many plus’s from this victory.Obviously, going into the N.E game 3-3 vs.2-4 is hugh. No way this team could start 2-5 and make the playoffs. Not conceeding this week but it will be tough. Other good news was Wilkerson & Coples becoming factors on the pass rush. Up untill this game both were conspicously missing in action! Another plus was both our rookie safty’s and young L.B’s D.Davis & A. Maybin getting more reps on D. While it has been tough watching Pace & B.Thomas futually chasing ball carriers it is nice to know we have a couple of young guys in the wings who should be starters soon. If we can win this week who knows what can happan?

  2. By Another Tom on Oct 15, 2012 | Reply

    Hill showed great hands on His TD catch…nice pass too. Would be nice to still have Ganaway on our roster with the injuries to our RB’s. I thought He looked pretty good in pre season

  3. By Charliejet on Oct 15, 2012 | Reply

    Sure Revis says he will be elite in 2013 – he is already campaigning for that contract renegotiation….

  4. By scjoe on Oct 15, 2012 | Reply

    It probably would be a lot better just to have your HC take the high road. Just praise the competition and move on. I don’t see the need to offer anything more. If you beat them (like Seattle did) then you can say what ever you like after the game. I’m not saying it makes a difference one way or another on the playing field, it’s just that it makes you look silly if you get blown out. Draw up your best game plan to date Rex then we will see.

  5. By Charliejet on Oct 15, 2012 | Reply

    Speed and studs, speed and studs that’s what we need out there on defense. Rex change it up, rotate and give some of the older slower guys some rest between the reps as well as getting those youngins’ in there for speed on the D. (Why am I talking like this I don’t know!)

  6. By TONY GARCIA on Oct 15, 2012 | Reply

    JET FAN SINCE 1969. called it 3-3 was what i expected even before the injuries.
    TEAM needs to continue and play the young guys and role with it.Proved many people who call themselves JET fans. wrong were not a great team but were showing some heart and grit.

  7. By Charliejet on Oct 15, 2012 | Reply

    Ge wiz if Sanchez throws for 164 yards, he has improved his throwing yardage by 100% ! Now that’s improvement!!

  8. By BillsJets on Oct 15, 2012 | Reply

    I think that the Jets are going to have lots of problems stopping the Patriots Offense, Especially because the Jets don’t know how to stop the Patriots from converting on third down, and if the Patriots don’t pick it up the honest way, the Ref’s will call a pass interference or a roughing the passer, or even, a personal foul, so either way the Patriots will keep possession unless the Jets can learn to cool it on 3rd down. That means you Landry, your not as bad as you think, your hits aren’t exactly doing the Jets any justice. Let’s go Jets.

  9. By Tom Spicer on Oct 15, 2012 | Reply

    Greene had the game of his life! I have never seen him run the ball like that. I think the Powell taking his job talk was starting to get to him. Because he came thru in a big way. Yesterday he had burst something we normally dont see from him.

  10. By Tom Spicer on Oct 15, 2012 | Reply

    It is good to have Keller & Hill back at least now we have a threat of a passing game. Belicheat is a expert at taking away the 1 thing you do best. After this week he will do everything to stop the run. There will be 8 men in the box selling out to stop the run. We will have to be able to throw the ball this week in order to win this game. That & the 1 thing you always have to do when playing the Pats & that is pressure Brady.

  11. By Tom Spicer on Oct 15, 2012 | Reply

    Cromartie had a great game for the most part locking up Wayne. He had 2 picks returned for TD’S that were called back. Wilkerson & Coples came to play. Coples could have had 3 sacks. The whole O line did great Greene was 6 yards down the field by the time he was touched. That was the Jet O line circa 2009 & 2010.

  12. By Tom Spicer on Oct 15, 2012 | Reply

    I read Powell is out at least a couple of weeks with a shoulder injury.

  13. By Sal on Oct 15, 2012 | Reply

    I hope Rex didn’t forget that comment by BB after they beat us last yr
    Bellick has no respect for us ( best D comment he made to his son) how about Sanchez having a big game and stepping up.like to see Damario Davis play a lot Moore along with Bush and Allen maybe Berry can contribute some to.Wasnt looking forward to this game 2 weeks ago but some how some way this team drags you back in to having hope should have beaten the texans there soft

  14. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Oct 15, 2012 | Reply

    Ron… The Jets are going to prepare for the no huddle offense of NE. They have to and with Couples, Wilkenson, D. Davis and Maybin also stepping up it could make a difference, Anonio Cromartie had a great game, even though 2 TD’s were canceled out. If the defense keeps pace we just might have a shot at beating NE. The running game was awesome Greene should have another good day. Sanchez’s 2 TD’s with only 86 yards passing was great to watch. I can’t believe I didn’t have to bite my nails this past week…

  15. By Karan on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Hope the Jets realize now how good Joe McKnight and guys like Antonio Allen can be.

  16. By Karan on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Hope we crush the patsies, can’t stand em. Richard Seymour got the best of Brady last Sunday, hahaha.

  17. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Ron, some of us who don’t like who Rex plays and who he sits are often accused of being “negative.” Well, I’ll give you the most positive take on this season that you ever heard: It would be the sweetest irony, and the best possible outcome with respect to the future, if injuries forced us to unload the bench and start rookies like Coples, Harrison, Bush, Allen, S Hill, Davis, or at least play them all a heck of a lot, as well as underused guys like McKnight, Wilson, and Ducasse — and then we made the playoffs with those guys on the field instead of some of has-been, overpaid vets that we’ve been afraid to sit for years!

  18. By IRA on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    We will see how this weeek plays out. Very difficult catching the Pats coming off a bad loss. I think if they don’t sign a RB we can see Tebow get some carries at RB this week and not in the option or WC formation.
    Greene ran like he did back in his rookie year he had some quickness and burst to his step. Wonder if that was due to the big holes the OL provided or something i think i noticed. Greene looked like he lost some weight and looked slimmer to me.
    Has Greene’s weight changed since the start of the season?

  19. By Randy Lange on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Ira, officially, no, Shonn Greene’s weight has not changed. He has been listed at 226 pounds all offseason and all season.

  20. By SCfronMY on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    I have been advokating more reps for the young guys for a while. They need the chance to succeed or fail. Sure the older players will make fewer errors than young players but they will remain mediocre. We need game changing plays. I hope we can maintain our high against NE. I do wish Rex would shut up about being tied for 1rst. last time that happened we lost 45-3. Pressure Brady up the middle, contain the run, get off the field on 3rd down, and we can win. No pick-6’s or turnovers by Sanchez.

  21. By Ron Alexander on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    TOM SPICER, that burst you saw had nothing to do with Powell’s emergence, it was simply because there was a hole! Did you notice he was not dodging tacklers in his own backfield? And you have seen Greene run like that before, but not much since his rookie year when we had Woody & Fanacca opening holes for him. 64, once again,we are in agreement. Actually, i think there is an excellent chance that is exactly what we will see this week.FRANK64some of the penalties against us last week were suspect at best.Not so much because they were wrong but because I’m not sure we would get those calls?

  22. By Ron Alexander on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    ANOTHER TOM, actually Hill did not show great hands on that play, or on his other two catches either. Not to nit-pic, but he continues to catch the ball by trapping it against his body? This led to him dropping 5 passes during the pre-season as well as 2 more in this years opener vs. Buffalo.I find it hard to believe that his posisition coach hasn’t been able to get him to fix this problem? IRA, you of all people should know putting Tebow in and linning him up as a running back is tricky at best.The Q.B-R.B exchange can be challanging to even the most seasoned vets and should not be taken lightly. It amazes me how many people think you can simply change a guys posisition because he is a great athlete? It takes practice to master a skill.

  23. By GaryC on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Ira,I look at it the other way,the way the pats lost it could have a snowball effect on them,the jets need to put their best foot forward,especially with the bye approaching,I believe the jets have not been in a better position then they are today to beat the pats,c’mon,the Giants always beat them.the jets always make them out to be Montana’s 49ers.

  24. By Jake on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Bills Jets, good point about Landry and his late hits, but on the other hand I like that fact that at least one Jet defender is flying to the ball. He just needs to keep those hits in the field of play. As long as our D line can improve on their performance from this week and translate it over to this week, the Jets will be in good shape. The one piece that still worries me is WILSON. That guy gets beat like a drum but celebrates like he’s Revis on every play. Brady is going to pick up first down after first down against him all game long. We put Cro on Welker, that leaves wilson on lloyd… mismatch. You’ll have to leave safety help for wilson which leaves Lankster by himself against Gronk or hernandez… lord help us.

  25. By Jersey Rich on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    If our young guys can get to Brady, and somehow control Welker & Woodhead, could be close. Offense needs to put up 20 or more points. Easier said than done. Go Jets.

  26. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Jersey Rich, I would LOVE to see the Jets, with this banged-up, rookie-filled starting team, beat the Pats and go on to play better and better for the rest of the year. This might go a long way to teaching Rex to stop favoring worn-out has-beens who were once great or even merely adequate and start doing something with the guys we drafted. I find it hard to believe that so many of our draft choices are really that bad, I think it’s much more likely that Rex likes to hide behind big names, just like he’s always fantasizing about Jim Brown and Jim Nance instead of going out and getting a Jamaal Charles or a Ray Rice. “Straight ahead,” as Jimi Hendrix once said, not “those were the days,” as McCartney wrote for that dippy English pop singer.

  27. By Mike Jet Vet on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    You poor poor souls. God it hurts to watch and listen, it will only last one week so soak it in, Next week will be much of the same..First let me remind you all Sanchez threw for 86 yards 86YARDS .he will have to throw a record high to even compete next week… McKnight finally a good game what happened was he hurt ? Greene O-line show up next and I’ll be impressed .. NE will take it out on us for their loss at settle same as San Fran.. Period. will fold as usual next week. all while Rex explains how good NE played.. Negative my butt they haven’t beat a team with a winning record and believing they will win 2 in a row against any team let alone a winning team,( laughing) , bridge anyone bridge for sale cheap

  28. By IRA on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    My feel is we won’t see McKnight back until after the bye week and Powell will be out for some time. Hope Grimes can fill in and still think they will have to look for a RB if there is anybody out there. have to have insurance in case Greene gets dinged up.
    I think Tebow will get carries as a RB this week. If the Pats can line up their TE’s as RB’s and give them the ball then the Jets can do that with Tebow.

  29. By Mike Jet Vet on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Cont, Giants took San Fran apart. Texans got their proverbial heads handed to them, Payton came back from a 24 zip to win with 35 unanswered , Settles Rookie QB drove down the field to beat the Pasties, Jets beat the Colts Buffalo and Miami which I believe they will lose to all three in a rematch .. My point Jets never win under duress.nor come from behind , if everything doesn’t go just perfect or our defense some how doesn’t give them a significant lead they will lose guaranteed that my fine feathered Jet fans is what we all can look forward to ,Call it Negativity I don’t give a crap I call it a fact the life of a Jet fan

  30. By Tom Spicer on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    I was just reading Wilkerson had 7 tackles, 1 sack, 1 forced fumble & a batted pass last game. For a 3 – 4 DE he dominated the game.

  31. By Tom Spicer on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Has anyone noticed the trend we won this week. So you have not & will not hear from JOE CAPS & Frank. LOL!

  32. By Tom Spicer on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    I can understand why posters have been down on Woody & MR.T & I fully understand why. I do not have to go into detail on those fronts. But to the posters who are down on Rex. Lets look at the season in a nut shell. 1 To be blunt MR.T has not provided Rex with the most talent in the world. 2 Revis our best player, the best corner in the NFL & maybe the best D player in the NFL out for the year. 3 Holmes our best O player out for the year 4 Keller the only other proven pass catcher besides Holmes that we have missed 5 games 5 Hill our other starting WR missed 3 games 6 Kenrick Ellis our only D lineman who had been stopping the run out 6 weeks 7 Pouha missed 3 games 8 Powell now with a separated shoulder & McKnight with a high ankle sprain.

  33. By Tom Spicer on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Both sure to miss multiple weeks. With all of the above to have us where we are I think he has done a great job. Think about it #1 WR out for the year Holmes, #2 pass catcher Keller missed 5 of 6 games & 3 #2 WR Hill miss 3 games. Not 1 game this whole year have we had a healthy Holmes, Keller, Hill & Kerley on the field all at once. If at the start of the season I told you we would 3 & 3 at the start of the season with these injurys you would have told me I was nuts. Also I think we have had more injurys than any team in the NFL so far. Tell me another team that lost its 2 best players for the year & has had the injurys that we have had?

  34. By Blinka The Merciful on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Although it’s just one game, I will take Wilkerson off my list of shame for playing well and keep Couples off for playing well and it being his first year because the victory has sweetened my bitterness and made me merciful.


    What’s going on here!

    Love all of you,
    Blinka The Merciful

  35. By jetsfan80 on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    We need to utilize the speed of S. Hill and Kerley this week. We must establish the run and let that speed at WR be put to use! Pick your spots and take your shots. We need to continue to stop the run like we have the last three quarters. But even if we do these things, no pressure on Brady, we lose…period. We need Coples, Wilkerson and Co. on that D-line to get to Brady without the aid of a blitzing LB or DB. This will be another good test for Cromartie and Co. at CB. If Cro continues to impress, I still say let #24 walk if the price tag is too high and spend that money elsewhere on the team! Go JETS!

  36. By Bitter Blinka on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    I am afraid we will not stack up against He Who Cheats. I just hope we don’t shame ourselves and get blown out.
    Here is Bitter Blinka’s keys to an upset:
    1. Get in pretty boy’s face, a lot. That’s a given.
    2. Mr. Green must have great game number two.
    3. Please look at the film of giant and Pitt victories from last year unti eyeballs fall out. Why did they give it good to the cheaters when the cheaters gave it good to everyone else?
    4. And finally, someone go up there with a t-shirt that says: “I saw Blinka having a good time with Growkowski’s girl friend”

    Bitter Blinka

  37. By scjoe on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Going into Sunday’s game both teams are 3-3. Both teams are struggling defensively. But that is where the similarity ends! The Pats ability to put points on the board will be the determining factor. We don’t know if anything has been held back offensively for the Jets since preseason, if there is, this is the time to put it out there. The Jets will need their A game on offense and defense, one thing that will doom them with out question are the seemingly endless array of penalties from the defensive backfield. The holding calls, the contact calls, the PI calls, and maybe the worse of all those unnecessary roughness calls. It will be those that will put this game out of reach. Eliminate them and there is hope.

  38. By scjoe on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    64, I think you will enjoy the Stephen A Smith-Skip Bayless- Eric Mangini “debate” re Rex Ryan over on ESPN.com. Quite entertaining. Now, I never disagreed with you about what comes out of Rex’s mouth, as I mentioned, that is just Rex being Rex (as Mangini points out) I do not condone what he says or how he says it, but I will stand by my position that it will not effect the “outcome” of a game being played on the field, but maybe the final score. Here’s why…..In this particular game this week, if things get out of hand where it is a blowout by the middle of the third quarter, I think NE will do anything and everything possible to run it up. Often times the defense rests in those situations.

  39. By chris long time jet fan on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    The thing for the jets to have a chance against any good team is for no interceptions and fumbles wether fumbles are lost or not.we can stick with any team without the turnovers we have the talent.DOES nybody else think the jets are blackedballed seems like we always have to beat the refs too.i been watching the jets for 35 yrs.

  40. By chris long time jet fan on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    I took it is easy on sanchez this week cause he didnt take points off the board. i will take 11 of 18 and 82 yds with no turnovers by the qb ….lol

  41. By Ron Alexander on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    JAKE, I like your take on the Landry issue. I’d rather have sombody out there knock’n guys around an instilling some fear than than have people half-stepp’n around and letting people think there is safe passage over the middle.Landry is our only big hitter out there so although he does get over zelous on occassion I can live with it!

  42. By chris long time jet fan on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    still say shonne greene can be one of the best rbs not just from this week all 3 years of his running.

  43. By Howie D on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    We should beat the Pats, and the way to do it – believe it or not – is to pass effectively. Their secondary is porous, that’s their dirty little secret. We should pass early and often. We’ll give them a huge break and make it easier for them when we run. Wolfolk and their line is broad and will stop most runs up the middle. Running is playing into their hands. Spread formation and hurry-up should be implemented, plus a couple bombs. Hill should have another multiple TD game. The key, once again, is Sanchez. Can he not turn the ball over? Can he not give them good field position. Can he not spot them points? If he comes out of this game without turnovers, we win!

  44. By Charliejet on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Jake good point on D – so how do we nullify all that. The DEFENSIVE LINE. Must put constant, constant, constant pressure on Brady. Rush him up the middle NOT from the sides. Of course easier said then done. I would like to see on of Landry’s hits here.

  45. By IRA on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Ron, If Greene needs to rest i have no problem putting Tebow in as a RB for a few plays if needed. He is like a FB he will get you 2-4 yds with no problem.
    Gary, The Pats are 0-3 this year when held to 30 pts or less and have rushed for less than 100 yds in a game. If we can do that we have a shot at this game.

  46. By Charliejet on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Big change -ups in Cleveland. We should be so lucky.

  47. By kleckofan on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Randy- it looked like Lloyd got hurt on the Pats last drive last week, any report?
    Regardless of Lloyd’s condition, I would rather see us go mostly zone and have our new hammer, Landry, responsible for cracking receivers (gronk and Welker) crossing the middle. Wilson/Lankster/Trufant cannot handle Gronk or Welker. No real good match for Cro on this team, Welker too quick, Gronk too big. Zone may help w the run too. Tough task any way you slice it.
    Hope Barry Soetoro loses another one tonight.

  48. By Randy Lange on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    kleckofan, online reports have said Brandon Lloyd suffered a bruised shoulder. The Patriots have not commented on any injury to their WR. Bill Belichick will be on a conference call with Jets reporters Wednesday morning and the Patriots will submit their first injury report of the week around 4 p.m. ET. We’ll let you know what we find out from those sources.

  49. By Karan on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    My mistake, I meant to say Richard Sherman.

  50. By tt on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    talking about giving rookies a chance and getting rid of the has beens….Has anyone else noticed since Holmes been injured there are no dropped balls?

  51. By Jersey Rich on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    I care what Stan Blinka says… I hope Sanchez & wilson get OFF his list this week!

  52. By GaryC on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Ira,how many points are the jets scoring,if the pats score 28 will that be enough to beat jets,then they will be 1-3 then when scoring less then 30.Defense will have to play better if this is going to be a win.

  53. By Another Tom on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Ron Alexander..I took another look at the TD grab and the ball def did get into His body…I just hope Hill can continue to hone His skills. Maybe the injury to Holmes is a blessing in disguise..Other WRs have to step up and MS cant get locked on to just one guy anymore..

  54. By Ron Alexander on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    IRA, Hey, all I’m saying is if they do put him at R.B I certianly hope they at least practice the handoff exchange. Its one thing to run when their is the threat of the pass to keep defences honest, but its another to think he’s a full time R.B. S.C.Joe, good point about the final score this week. B.B will no doubt try to run it up if given the opportunity. I cant imagine Rex letting the D slack off if the score gets out of hand though? SPICER, We played a lot more 4-3 this week which enabled Wilkerson & Coples a better opportunity to excell. The reason people get down on Rex is his mouth! When you boast & dont back it up you “play the fool!” Hey, this is N.Y baby, the real show-me state!

  55. By Charliejet on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Blinka you are a poet! lol

  56. By Bitter Blinka on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply


    I agree with you. If only Woody would stay at the tea party headquarters and seek tea, to a group of investors led by Curtis Martin, and bring the team back home.

  57. By Bitter Blinka on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply


    I agree with you. If only Woody would stay at the tea party headquarters and sell the team to a group headed by Curtis Martin and bring the team back home.
    I will always be bitter while we STILL play in giants stadium.
    Will someone please kick sand in my face, thank you.

    Bitter Blinka

  58. By scjoe on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    LOL…Ira, know what’s funny about that stat? The NY Jets are 0-3 when HELD TO SEVENTEEN (17) or less.

  59. By scjoe on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Bitter Blinka, here are my answers to your keys to victory
    1-We don’t have the people to get in pretty boys face.
    2-Mr Greene already had his “great game” I don’t think there is any more.
    3-Giants and Steelers film notwithstanding, we don’t have what they have on D
    4-Are you sure Gronk has a “girl” friend???

  60. By Mike Jet Vet on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Ira Paties are 0-3 when held under 30 points. Guess what they are saying about our 3 losses I’m I willing to bet dinner at the restaurant of your choice Patsies 3 games lost points total compare to our three games loss total they are 3-0 , That stat is not getting it, Remember no one laid a goose egg on them , Holmes is dead space he needs to go, I’ve been saying trade Revis since last season, don’t care how good he is . either he takes a cut in salary or I believe many teams will give an eye tooth for him Texans traded their pass Pass rusher in Williams and became a better team who would’ve believed before the fact one player does not make a team they usually hurt a team .

  61. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

    I’ll check that debate out, scjoe. My problem with Rex isn’t so much that he makes game-by-game errors, though he has failed to get the team up for some of the biggest games of his tenure as HC. My problem is he has outdated ideas on drafting, player development, and his overall vision of the team. In the first two areas he’s pathetic and in the third he’s at least 40 years behind the times.

  62. By IRA on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

    Cimini’s story about O’Connell’s workout he could be on to something. They just didn’t work him out because they have nothing better to do. I would trade Tebow in a heartbeat if i can recoup a pick or player. Sure he can help the team in many ways but i still will never believe the HC or GM wanted him.
    O’Connell always made me scratch my head when i would see him throw. Big arm and he has the size you want in a QB. Who knows maybe they sign him anyway i think they have an extra roster spot right now.

  63. By punchie on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

    If we can beat seattle and win one of two against the pats i can see this being a 10 win season. yes yes i know i`m an optimist but take a serious look at the scheduel

  64. By punchie on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

    only one problem ,we finally run the ball and its a team switching to a 3-4 from a 4-3 with two defensive ends that need to be in that 4-3 set. Still 10 is possible

  65. By SCfronMY on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

    This week it will not be so easy. Sanchez will have to do more than pass for 81 yards to even keep us in the game. The Colts had a terrible defense so we ran on them. How much did we run on Texans ans 49ers. We stopped one of the worst running offenses that had 2 starters out. NE is the 4th best rushing team. Can the Jets win? “Any Given Sunday”! But the run game must work, turnovers eliminated, keep Sanchez safe so he doesn’t sulk into his shell, and convert at least 50% on 3rd down and stop the Pats for at least 50% on 3rd down. I really don’t want to hear Rex and Sancheze’s patent losing news conference this week.

  66. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

    I’ll be more than happy to speak for JOE CAPS, as some have started calling him: When the Jets start beating good teams on a consistent basis, I’ll be as happy as anyone else. Right now it looks like they’re locked in a pattern that I recognize from many other mediocre Jet seasons: Beat up on the lousy teams, let up on the good ones.

  67. By kw65Fan on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

    For all of you wishing for new ownership…I am all in. But as far as moving from Met-Life…don’t count on it. Unlike The old giants stadium…where we paid rent….We OWN half od met life…yes we OWN. so unless the so-called new owners can persuade Jints to pay us out on the half…then yes, we should move. but do not see that happening in a long time….ESPECIALLY after Jets paid for the new practice facility in Jersey. Move back to Hofstra…I doubt that too.

  68. By kw65Fan on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

    Always wanted our own stadium. Although idea was crazy…should have cut all the garbage red tape that went on with NYC in building statdium on west side of Manhattan. Should have looked more into Queens…Long Island…some where other than Jersey. Number ons stupid mistake made by ownership…

  69. By Ron Alexander on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

    ANOTHER TOM, yeah, believe me, I used to coach Q.B’s and recievers and that is a typical problem with young players. I dont think it will be a long term problem,but I am kind of surprised its still happaning on almost every ball thrown to him? i gotta think the coaches are working on this with him? IRA, thank for the tip on Cimini’s article. I hadn’t seen it but I cant imagine why we would go down that road again?
    O’connell has had numerous opportunities to establish himself and it just hasn’t happaned?

  70. By GaryC on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

    As good as Greene’s game was the type of back he is does not lead to a long career,He looks for contact and lacks shiftiness,that is why this year,of course depending on where they draft,a back like Ball who I have mentioned needs to be considered,a all around back,also a lot of backs now are 5’10 and less,like Rice,Jones-Drew,vision supercedes speed nowadays and a back who can catch out of the backfield.as for the wideouts,the two Hills,Kerley and McKnight being split would give the jets more then enough speed where missing Holmes is not the end of the world.

  71. By GaryC on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

    It looked to me antonio allen has better coverage skills then Landry and Bell already,Remember,Landry was toasted on that bomb by Luck but the officials did not call the interference.

  72. By Tom Spicer on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

    I agree Punchie after this week there is no game on the schedule that I look at & say we have no shot to win this game.

  73. By Tom Spicer on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

    Randy, Would you have the info that would tell us how many plays the Jets were in a 3-4 D vs a 4-3 D last week? I think there is no way we were in the 4-3 more than 30% of the time.

  74. By Randy Lange on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

    Tom, I used to keep alignment numbers in my previous life but I don’t now. I can tell you how many times the Jets blitzed Luck but not out of what front. But I’m sure that’s available somewhere on the Internet.

  75. By Tom Spicer on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

    Ron Alexander, Lets say for arguments sake that we played the 4-3 D for every play in last weeks game. Wilkerson had 7 tackles that is still a great game for a 4-3 DE. Do the math 7 times 16 is 112. D lineman in any D dont have 100 plus tackles a year. Those are linebacker numbers.

  76. By Tom Spicer on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

    I was thinking something & it was weird cause there was a story about the exact same thing in the Post today. I was thinking with Holmes out for the year Kerley & Hill are going to get alot of playing time & we are going to see what it is we have in these guys.

  77. By SCfromNY on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

    kleckofan from another thread. I know scjoe and I have very similar screen names but I came down to SC from NY 8 years ago and I use that screen name for many sites, especially firearms sites so I am used to it. Plus with advancing years it makes it easy to remember not so many names. Amusing aside when I started posting on the gun sites many ignored me thinking it was “Senator Clinton from NY” eck! Interesting conversations about bringing in O’Connell. Everything from trading Tebow to trading Sanchez. Tebow has not produced much, some would say he wasn’t given a chance. But 2 teams that could use him would be Chiefs and Jags. The Chiefs could give us Bowe since Tebow would rarely complete a pass to him.

  78. By GaryC on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

    this thing with working out O’Connell everyone is assuming it has to do with maybe trading Tebow,the jets could do a real dumb thing and Trade McElroy to a team who believes he has more ability then the jets do.

  79. By Karan on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

    Are we the most injury struck team in the league right now?? I like the fact that guys step up but we haven’t had a health unit together play at once this season. The worst and the most unfortunate were the Revis and Holmes injuries. Clearly the best players on O and D.

  80. By Karan on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

    If I’m Mike Tannenbaum I trade Tebow for Laurent Robinson or MJD.

  81. By Karan on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

    With the exception of the playoff game, we are 0-3 under the Ryan era at Foxborough correct?

  82. By SCfromNY on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

    THANKS A LOT GaryC! I never considered the Jets would be stupid enough to trade McElroy. Sometimes I forget who we are talking about. While I have no trouble trading Tebow but there is no way that he would be a straight up for MJD. After taking his team to the playoffs he was only worth a 4th and 6th. Jax I’m sire would want a #1 or #2 and later pick. There are a lot of complaints against Holmes. I am not a Holmes hater but you need to understand he caught 132 balls in 3 years. That is not a #1 on any team except the Jets or Dolphins. IF the Jets trade McElroy to say, the Chiefs, and the Chiefs go to the playoffs I hope that starts a major overhaul of the decision makers.

  83. By Ron Alexander on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

    SPICER,yeah no problem my man, i’m with you on Mo Wilk. I think he could be good. Needs some work but I like him!

  84. By punchie on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

    Karan” being that we play them twice a year it would be amazeing if we are 0-3

  85. By punchie on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

    What are you people thinking. We did not beat the JAGS or the CHIEFS last season and we have to play both in the regular season this year and you guys want to give them more weapons with inside knowledge on how to beat us.” PLEASE”. I thought TANNY was supposed to be the bad decision maker.

  86. By punchie on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

    Howie D” Stephen HILL has not had a multiple touchdown game yet as we have two receivers named hill and each one had a TD grab , As a matter of fact it would surprise me if you guys watched the games at all as i have never heard anyone mentioning the benefit of the two HILLS ,same size same speed !

  87. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 18, 2012 | Reply

    kw65, those kinds of deals on stadiums and practice facilities can be worked out virtually overnight when things get too embarrassing, like they’re getting now. I doubt the Giants would hesitate for a minute to own the entire Regret Life stadium, and they might want to buy the Florham Park place too. As for trading Tebow, a #7 pick will be just fine with me, especially if we hold onto the biggest #7 steal we’ve ever had, McElroy, so that we can give him a shot next yr.

  88. By scjoe on Oct 18, 2012 | Reply

    Punchie, better stay away from that punch your drinking, instead of knocking others on this site use that time to do the research. Stephen Hill had 2 (TWO) TD passes in game #1 vs Buffalo. Also, Stephen Hill is 6’4″ 215…Jason Hill is 6’0″ 200 lbs. Same size?? Think again. Last but not least, the Jets certainly did play and beat both Jax and KC last season,(game #2 game #13) by a combined score of 69-13. Strike 1, 2, and 3. Where are you getting your information?

  89. By Tom Spicer on Oct 18, 2012 | Reply

    Punchie, Stephen Hill had 2 TD’S in the first game of the season vs the Bills?

  90. By chris long time jet fan on Oct 18, 2012 | Reply

    The jets org always let the good ones go….. been doing that for a long time……if they let mcelroy go that would be foolish..but expectant….they probably think that will make sanchez better …and all thier qb troubles will go away…but mark will still be here.

  91. By JetBlue on Oct 18, 2012 | Reply

    Spice: With regard to Rex, what has he done that gives you any confidence that this team is on the rise? Mangini got crucified because Favre was forced on him. Not that we had a viable QB anyway, but the core of today’s team comes from the draft picks he was a part of. I’m not advocating bringing him back, but name a player that Rex has developed. Rex is blind to the obvious because, as 64Tom points out, he doesn’t seem to understand today’s NFL. Great defenses are not winning SBs. Teams with great QBs are winning them (P Manning, Brees, Rogers, Rothlesburger, E Manning). The days of winning with Trent Dilfer are over. Even Dilfer admits that. We’re down on Rex because we have no confidence in his ability to coach this team.

  92. By Ron Alexander on Oct 18, 2012 | Reply

    Punchie, I believe Karan was stateing we are 0-3 at N.England during Rex’s first 3 seasons with the Jets. We play them twice a year one at each stadium so we have played them 3 times in N.E. Plus the playoff game we actually won. Bye the way, the two Hills are not the same height. Steven the rookie is 6-4 the other guy is only 6-0. 64, as much as I would love to have our own stadium i cant see it happaning as long as Woody Johnson owns the team. Woody is all about makeing money. Why else would he implement the whole PSL fiasco? here a many times over billionaire that could have easily afforded his own stadium and look what he did.

  93. By Ron Alexander on Oct 18, 2012 | Reply

    S.C.Joe, IRA and 64, Joe Beningo had Chris Jenkins on his show today and in addition to the usual banter Biningo asked him flat out,”whats wrong with this organization? To which Jenkins quickly offered; It starts at the top, do you remember the Jets on hard-knocks? Do you remember Woody & Tannenbaum constantly on camera ?,on the treadmill, doing the diner thing? ” he went on to explain his point was they made it about themselves,not the players.Apparently, that put a lot of people off as many players apparently felt they were not portrayed in the best light. Good examples of this were Joe Mcknight with the contitioning issues,blown assignments and fumbles and of course the whole Cromartie thing with all the kids with differnet mothers.

  94. By Howie D on Oct 18, 2012 | Reply

    Punchie: You need to watch the games. The Hill I’m referring to is Stephen, and he caught two (2) TDs in the first game against Buffalo. I didn’t think I had to clarify that I was referring to Stephen, because any Jets fan would know that.

  95. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 18, 2012 | Reply

    Thanks for backing up one of my main criticisms of Rex, JetBlue.

  96. By Tom Spicer on Oct 18, 2012 | Reply

    JetBlue, While you are 100% right about QB’S, D’S & Super Bowls. I think Rex is not making the picks MR.T is & that is where the blame lies. Rex said it himself WR Stephen Hill his 2nd round pick he did not want. Also in his 1st year do you think Rex wanted to trade up for Mark & trade up for Greene? Sorry that was all MR.T if it was up to Rex all of the high round picks would be spent on D. Rex is coaching what he has been given & I think he is a great defensive mind. It is Sparano & MR.T’s job to make the other side work.

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