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Jets-Patriots: First-Half Tweets

Posted by Randy Lange on October 21, 2012 – 6:02 pm

Here are today’s first-half tweets for Jets-Patriots at Gillette Stadium, in case you missed them on Twitter. Follow Bob Wischusen, Eric Allen and me for our tweets during each Jets game on https://twitter.com/nyjets.

#RL Jets gameday captains: Mike DeVito, Bryan Thomas, Vlad Ducasse, Lex Hilliard and Marcus Dowtin, making his pro debut.

#RL For the third straight week, the Jets have won the opening coin toss and have deferred. Under Rex Ryan, Jets have deferred 26 times.

#RL Jeremy Kerley has 24- and 26-yard receptions and 3-yard end-around on Jets’ first 6 offensive plays.

#RL Shonn Greene 1-yd TD run. Jets’ first 1st-qtr TD @ NE since 2008. Jets had gone 17 opening-quarter possessions in  last 7 games @ NE w/o a TD.

#RL Jets’ TD comes w/ 6:09 gone in opening quarter. It’s Jets’ first 1st-quarter lead @ NE in last 8 games, since THU night win here in ’08.

#RL But Devin McCourty ties it back up with 104-yd KOR TD. 1st opponent KOR-TD since Ted Ginn for MIA had 2 in third quarter on 11.01.09.

#RL RG Dan Connolly (illness) return questionable. Patriots now playing w/o both guard starters on OFF, both safety starters on DEF.

#RL TE Jeff Cumberland has a hand injury. His return to this game is questionable.

#RL Bad handoff from Mark Sanchez to Shonn Greene results in safety. Only 2nd opponents safety in last 8 seasons.

#RL Quinton Coples gets a third-down sack of Tom Brady. It’s the rookie’s team-leading third sack of the season, all in the last 2 games.

#RL Jeremy Kerley tips a 22-yard pass away from Alfonzo Dennard to himself. Kerley now has 4 catches, 77 yds.

#RL Fourth-down penalty was called on No. 54, Nick Bellore, but replay showed No. 39, Antonio Allen, got a Patriots facemask on the play.

#RL Nick Folk sets up for a 54-yd field goal to end the 1st half. His career long is the franchise-record 56-yder he hit @ DEN in 2010.

#RL Folk’s 54-yard field goal is good. 2 seconds left in 1st half, Jets trail 16-10…

#RL Folk’s kick is tied for the 6th-longest FG in Jets franchise history. He also has the longest at 56 yds, 4 55-yd kicks are tied for 2nd.

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124 Responses to “Jets-Patriots: First-Half Tweets”

  1. By Byrdman on Oct 21, 2012 | Reply

    3 Drops already by Schillens – Sanchez had Hill WIDE OPEN and hangs the ball up like a punt, short intercepted – Almost any other NFL QB that’s a TD. Wow even Jets special teams is exposed as kind of a fraud, Kerley is FC punts at the 5 yard line (stupid) This game is playing out almost according to the script – Well coached NE team with superior talent scoring TD’s while Jets run predictable straight ahead dives and slants settling for field-goals. Jets front office has to explain why they have been drafting in the top 10 for a decade and Pats with a bottom ten pick end up with superior talent ? Man it’s frustrating being a die-hard Jet Fan :D GO JETS !!!!

  2. By Christopher on Oct 21, 2012 | Reply

    Same ole Jets

  3. By kw65Fan on Oct 21, 2012 | Reply

    “Have to protect the ball better”…blah..blah,,,blah. sure right you do…and underthrowing a wide open receiver in the end zone…result interception. Enough already…”We want Mac”…”We want Mac”

  4. By Christopher on Oct 21, 2012 | Reply

    No moral victory here…just another crushing loss. One that will most likely spiral the season out of control. This team is 8-8 at best, and more likely a 6-10 team. Stephen Hill’s drop cost us the game, along with Sanchez who obviously doesn’t understand how to play big in big moments, along with a D that cannot make that big stop to win a game.

  5. By harry-o on Oct 21, 2012 | Reply

    coaches fault
    folks last FG should have been the game
    run down the clock as much as possible
    couple of run plays would have done it
    u r alresdy in FG range w/ a good kicker even if u miss u go to OT
    make NE use their time outs before the FG
    NE could still get the ball with little time and no time outs
    brady played with such confidence the last two drives
    we need that sooo bad
    good come back anyway, we’ll get’m next time

  6. By scjoe on Oct 21, 2012 | Reply

    OK, here’s the thing. We can talk about “moral” victories, which mean nothing! We can talk about having 5 or 6 plays back, we can talk about the talent comparisons, particularly at the QB position, we can talk about the play calling (that pass on 3rd down as opposed to running it twice, being aggressive, and going for the win) We can talk about the INTs. We can talk about the critical drops. We can talk about all of those things, but the bottom line is, and any long time Jet fan will tell you this, in a game like this, with all that was at stake, where a win would go down as a top 5 in Jet history, at the end of the day, the NY Jets just do not win games such as this. PERIOD

  7. By scjoe on Oct 21, 2012 | Reply

    How many other teams, given the opportunity the Jets had, recovering a fumble near the opponents 10 yard line, with 2 minutes remaining in a tie game, and still figure a way out to lose it? ONE 1st down, ONE simple, routine catch of a pass, ONE stop on defense, any ONE of those things and you have a win, alone in 1st place, 3-0 in the division and all of the experts scratching their collective heads. But NO, these are the NY Jets we are talking about.

  8. By barker on Oct 21, 2012 | Reply

    Good game, thought it would be a blow out.

  9. By Karan on Oct 21, 2012 | Reply

    This was a heartbreaking loss. Sanchez will get the heat but overall he played well. That fumble was his biggest mistake, its just unfortunate, an unfortunate loss. But I give credit to our team for the rally, i honestly cannot wait for Thanksgiving, for the food and the game, revenge shall be ours. Its not over patriots. I credit the Jets defense.

  10. By MIKE on Oct 21, 2012 | Reply

    No complaints today. The boys played well, other the one INT Sanchez looked really good. The ground game was there and players like Kerley, Davis, Keller stepped up. Not sure why they had Davis on Welker so much, that was a major mismatch that Brady took advantage of but all and all the Jets played well enough today to be a playoff caliber team

  11. By GaryC on Oct 21, 2012 | Reply

    I find it amazing that sanchez says it was better to lose the 10 yards on the play before Folk kicked the field goal to keep the clock running then to throw an incomplete pass.This has to be ingrained in his mind from the coaching staff.If that isn’t being afraid not to lose,I don’t know what is.It didn’t matter anyway but what if Folk missed the kick with the added distance,the jets are again,a club that thinks defense first,too bad are D isn’t always so trustworthy.Brady,three passes,field goal,overtime,jets lose again.

  12. By GaryC on Oct 21, 2012 | Reply

    I do not want to hear the jets defense played great,the patriots had three backups on their offensive line,and how many sacks did we get,and how many yards did the pats run four,and again Pace and Scott are left in the dust covering a tightend.

  13. By sal cottone on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    I have the same sick feeling I had when Jordon went down and the Knicks had thier chance, and blew it, This team had the same opportunity, they were up and coming and the pats were not the same. A few stupid trades some bad play and coaching. YOU CANT LET TEAM LEADERS OR PLAY MAKERS GO. And at some point Sanchez has to prove himself. Green wont last the season, try to do something before it happens, PLEASE!! PS if your upstate NY no game on radio, or satelite tv, or the NFL package (was Blacked out), enjoyed the Giant game anyway!!

  14. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    You know the old saying, scjoe, bad teams find a way to lose. Karan, it was once written of Richard Todd, another promising golden-boy QB who never quite panned out, that he was prone to the big mistake. Not since Todd has any Jet QB been as guilty of that as Sanchez, which is a major reason I’m coming to the conclusion he must go. He has good stretches and bad stretches but he’s almost incapable of playing even a single game without making some costly rookie mistake. The guy I watched the game with today said to me a couple yrs back, “The thing about Brady is, he’ll never LOSE a game for ya.” Conversely, while Sanchez will sort-of win one for ya now and then, he’s always a snap or two away from disaster. 4 yrs in, this is unacceptable.

  15. By Another Tom on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    I guess you could say We snatched defeat from the jaws of victory..very difficult loss to swallow..

  16. By Mike Jet Vet on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Today I believe we became a team, STOP I REPEAT STOP Blaming Greene and our Defense, no they’re not great, Game was coached Needed more Blitz packages but t didn’t,, they played their hearts out and I refuse to blame them. As I watched this game which BTW we were destined to win.. All I could think about is Every time Sanchez had the ball when will he would throw INT or stumble and bumble the ball away costing us this game we so deserved . Well you guessed it oops there it is right on cue game over no chance .. This loss is a Shame on so many levels, having the lead in our division, at their house, even with stupid penalties,4 dropped passes we were in a position to win, 99% of QB’s in the league win this game,

  17. By JetBlue on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Game should have been over in regulation. No killer instinci with this coaching staff and poor execution and panic at the QB position. Once again we see that same old replay of MS back-peddling & holding the ball out in one hand. Why can’t we coach that out of him? The Pats served this game up on a platter and Jets said, “Not Hungry”. On a day when the D made Brady look ordinary, the O continues to self destruct and the play calling was mind-boggling. Greene gets 9 yds on 2 runs down near the GL & you decide to let MS pass the ball? Play to win! Run the ball two times and if you can’t get 3/4 of a yard, you don’t deserve it. For ther many good things the team did, there were twice as many stupid things. CONT.

  18. By JetBlue on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    MS continues to throw over the heads of his receivers. No YACs because MS makes his rcvrs jump or dive for every catch. WRs continue to drop that rare pass that is accurate. Cro could have had 2 INTs but again couldn’t hold on to the ball. Rex cheerleading and jumping up and down as if he won the SB, forgetting that the game was not over, giving Brady 2 minutes to slice & dice his D, twice. This team is great at the we almost won games. So frustrating to watch a game that should have been a celebration. Great effort in many ways, but once again……..”We have to play better”. “We have to eliminate those mistakes”. Just when I bought back into beleving that maybe this team is ready to compete again, BAM, disappointment again.

  19. By SCfromNY on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Hey scjoe, maybe we are the same person. You posted everything I was going to. Sanchez did look Ok today making some nice passes. He did have more problems than just the interception. A couple of third down plays that he hit the receiver too short or low so there could be no YAC. Tebow was brought here for short yardage plays. You have to score TDs to beat NE. 3rd and 1 should have been 1 or even 2 running plays. Good to se more Davis but our smallest and quickest DB shouldhave been on Welker. As good as the O played we had to settle for 3 again at the end of the 4th. As good as the D played NE went down the field with 1.32 to tie it. Good teams step up in these instances. I hope Hill learns to catch and we get Turner back for Schielens.

  20. By Tom Spicer on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Guys are going to try to blame Mark like ALWAYS but the BOTTOM LINE is this. Stephen Hill catches a ball that HITS HIM IN THE CHEST! With no one near him & WE WIN!

  21. By GaryC on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    why does Shilens not extend his arms when a pass is coming to him.reach out and snatch it,looks like he is leery to get a shot in the ribs from a safety.Let’s see the jets put this kind of effort against the dolphins next week,if that is the case it will be a win,knowing the jets,maybe not.

  22. By Allan O'Dane on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Heartbreaking….it’s that plain and simple. You think this game was meant for the NYJ to win recovering that fumble to take the lead. But, once again I don’t care if it’s 10 seconds to go with Brady at the helm it’s too much time. Once the NYJ defense went into prevent mode I knew it was over. Just like the game against the steelers where we just needed to stop Big Ben on a 3rd and 6 the defense couldn’t get the job done. Our prevent D means playing scared. NYJ just doesn’t have the killer instincts on Def. side of the ball. NYJ made too many mistakes and the one thing about playing the Pats you have to play a near perfect game to win. NYJ have to start playing to win instead of playing not to lose.

  23. By GaryC on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    See Ira,your theory about pats being 0-3 when scoring less then 30 points went out the window,only when playing the jets can this happen.

  24. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    I’d “blame Mark” even if Hill had caught that ball and we had won, Spicer. “Mark”can’t throw accurately two passes in a row. He gets at least as much blame for the INT on the pass to Hill that would’ve been a TD as Hill gets blame for dropping that pass at the end. Besides, even the casual observer of the Jets — like the guy I watched the game with, a Bears fan — notices on any given series how sloppy MS’s passes are. “He does throw behind the receiver a lot,” “You’re not going to get any yards-after-catch that way,” “He’s got a strong arm, but he’s not accurate on long passes” — this is the Bears fan talking, not me! Anybody can see all this — anybody but Mr T and Rex, i guess, or maybe they’ll never admit it…

  25. By Karan on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Seriously man, Stephen Hill gave that game away in the end, I like the guy, but he is a dropping machine. Please fix it.

  26. By Frank on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    You know its funny 64 I was thinking this weekend who Jamarrcus Sanchez reminds me of and I came up with Richard Todd myself although he had a better deep ball than Sanchez.
    Lets face it Spicer…Sanchize-not 3 more turnovers and all three were horrific especially that throw to Hill. He was visually missing wide open receivers all over the field yesterday. Yes he makes a few good plays but takes them away with idiotic plays. The worst part about this is he thinks he actually played well yesterday and was quote “upbeat” after the game. You just lost a divisional game!!!!vs. the Pats for godsake. I am sick and tired of hearing myself over and over we have a terrible QB it’s just that simple. The Pats are beatable!!!!!!

  27. By Karan on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    The game next week is a MUST WIN. It’s those tricky Dolphins again who always seem to beat us at least once a year.

  28. By Karan on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    If theres one D that plays Brady best, its the Rex Ryan D.

  29. By Mike Jet Vet on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer .Sanchez doesn’t overthrow a wide open Hill resulting in his favorite play int in the red zone,He’s always off the mark never never hits his recievers in stride for yac add insult to injury if he doesn’t fumble the ball away with 2 minutes left to save his own butt we win. it is mostly his fault get over it

  30. By Frank on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    And of course we have Rex making his dopey comments this week how we will beat the Pats yada yada….now blaming the officials. Rex and Sanchize-Not really do deserve each other because they both don’t get it.

  31. By JetBlue on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Spice: Granted, MS didn’t play awful as he has in other games. BUT, you have to evaluate based upon what was, and not what could have been. Doesn’t matter that Hill dropped that pass. He was wide open earlier and MS threw up the INT costing us a TD. Bottom line, after NE fumbled that KO, Brady marched the team down for the tying FG, and then did it again in OT. What did MS do for his team when they really needed him? He back-peddled and fumbled the game away. QBs and teams are judged based on results/outcomes, not what they did when it didn’t matter. During the game, MS could have thrown to wide open rcvrs, and didn’t. He also continues to throw high and behind rcvrs. When are we going to see the improvement? 4 more yrs?

  32. By GaryC on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    JetFanTom,you know I can’t let this go bye,Many of the experts are now comparing Cam the Sham to Jeff George,Brian Billick being one,Funny,I called him the sham at the beginning of year when everyone loved him,now everyone is calling saying he is the second coming of George.

  33. By ron alexander on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    BOYS, this game was there for the takeing. it just seems that whenever we need to make a big play someone either screws up or we get called for a penalty. Speaking of penaltys there were two that baffled me? The first came at the 14:20 mark in the 2nd qtr when on 3rd & 8 Welker caught the quick screen and gained 25 yds.If you have it recorded,how did the ref miss the block in the back on our L.b? Later in the game there was a mystery interference call on along the right sideline.Hey, it could have been interference, but my problem with it was how late the flag came in and from where? The guy right on the spot didn’t even reach for his flag but a guy Simms pointe out that was over 35 yds away threw it. That was hugh as it would have -

  34. By scjoe on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    SCfromNY, both Ron and I have been talking about the inaccuracy of Mark Sanchez for quite some time now. Putting all the over throws aside for just one minute and watching the tape you can see the inaccuracy on 75% of his throws, they may be caught, but the YAC just are not possible because of the placement of the ball. That is something that don’t show up on the stat sheet, but trust me, it is a factor. GaryC after Stephen Hill basically cost that game with a routine pass dropped, how can you even make reference to Schliens?

  35. By ron alexander on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    cont.- 4th 7 long, insted of 1st down for the Pats? I would never go as far as to accuse the officials of anything hinkey, but sometimes ya gotta wonder? S.C.Joe,
    you really said it well up top here. Its kind of like the Bill Murray movie where he keeps wakeing up and living the same day?

  36. By scjoe on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer, you are right, there were many reasons this game was lost, but make no mistake, Mark Sanchez was one of them. That pass intended for Hill in the endzone may have sealed this game. What it did was take at the very least 3 points off the board, with any kind of decision making and accuracy it should have put 6 on the board. If you look at that play on tape you have to ask yourself how can any NFL QB not throw a TD there. Hill was that open, it was pretty much routine, but for this team, it not only takes points off the board, it results in a turnover besides.

  37. By kleckofan on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Can’t really add anything new to what has been said here already. As for the Sanchez question; I would simply say this “just not good enough”. He’s a less athletic Tony Romo, disaster always waiting in the wings.
    One has to wonder, had we pulled this game out and confounded everyone, would we turn around and lose to the Dolphins at home? C’mon, you know that might well have been the case.
    Same ol’, same ol’

  38. By Viveca on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Sanchez had a decent game, but when he makes a mistake it’s a big one. The saftey and the interception in the endzone counts for a total of 9 points! Being on the tenth yard line with a few minutes to go a win should be almost a certainty, but not with Sanchez at qb, and not with this timid playcalling. To take a sack and fumble with the game on the line is inexcusable! Proud of the team’s effort, but we somehow manage to shoot ourselves in the foot…Again! Will it ever change?

  39. By kleckofan on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    glad we played many young guys who, predominately, earned their stripes. The injury time for Greene let McK show he could run it hard between the tackles, Demario was very active. Phil Sims (who I think does a great job and seems to actually like the Jets) pointed out our speed problems at LB, and also pointed out sanchez’s accuracy problems.
    For what it’s worth, watching Dalton inthe Cincy/Pitt game reminded me a whole lot of Sanchez; nice player, but “just not good enough” to get it done against the big boys. Dalton is 0-6 against the Ravens and Steelers in his two yrs. Poor in big spots, sound familiar?

  40. By scjoe on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    I think it is time to give up on the Tebow experiment. What is the point in bringing him in simply to keep the ball and run up the middle for 2 or 3 yards? Greene can do that.Even worse, when there is a situation to bring him in, like that 3rd and 1 from the 3 yard line, they don’t! Instead they go to a pass (which of course is incomplete) and settle for the FG. I believe everyone who watches pro football will tell you that you are going to find it very difficult to beat NE with FGs as opposed to TDs. I guess everyone but the NY Jets coaching staff.

  41. By Karan on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Even though I blame Stephen Hill mostly for the loss, there were many oppurtunities for us to win, but I’m certainly not blaming Sanchez for this. I believe we were the better team but it just stinks that they won. The two biggest changes on offense we need now is replacing Shonn Greene and Chaz Schlins. Lets be honest, those two guys are not getting it done. Greene had one good day but we all knew it wouldn’t last forever. Joe McKnight needs to start for the Jets when healthy and until Bilal Powell returns, he should get a many carries as McKnight. Please just give up on Greene already. Lex Hillard is a heck of an aquisition. He’s one of those players that does the dirty work and doesn’t receive a ton on credit, glad to have him on……

  42. By Karan on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    …..on board. The Jets don’t know how to use Tebow. We are one trade away from looking like a team with really good weapons. Trade Tebow, Schilens and some conditional draft picks for Bowe and we will be set. Kerley and Keller are great as always. For anyone who has ever doubted Kerley, what were you thinking?? Hill needs to get on the JUGS machine like Rex said. I don’t care what it is, JUGS machine, catching the footbalk from Mark, please just hang on to the ball. Other than that, this guy is a promising young receiver. So we are only Greene and Schilens away from a better looking offense. Hill, Bowe, Keller and Kerley as our receivers. McKnight, Powell as our primary RBs and Hilliard as the FB, that sounds really good to me.

  43. By joeydefiant on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Who are the 99% of QB’s in the league that lead their team to OT against the Pats at home? in the last four years the Pats have lost 4 games at home including the playoffs. Two lost games in the regular season in the last four years and one of them is to Mark Sanchez and the Jets. Where are these 99% of QB’s that are beating Belichick and Brady at home???

  44. By GaryC on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Randy,did not hear at the news conference with Rex,how did the patriots isolate Davis on Wes Welker,did anyone bring that up and was their confusion in the jets secondary.

  45. By Another Tom on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    The good news is that the Patriots are starting to look very average and beatable..Just gotta learn to defend Gronk now. We had alot of great individual efforts..Folk / Malone is looking like a nice combo..Hilliard looks like a nice addition for sure and more versatile than Conner too.

  46. By Another Tom on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    I guess Round 1 of Coples vs. Jones ended in a draw as neither had a sack or really made a impact..

  47. By Allan O'Dane on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    I know some people maynot agree with this idea…but I think we are better off dumping chaz schilens and signing plax. NYJ was second in the league with redzone TD’s last year with Plax catching 8 of those. Hill has alot of upside and should be in the lineup…but we need a WR with sure hands and a redzone threat. I forgot who the blogger here who refers to to Plax as Plastico…LOL…GaryC? Plax is better then what we have now in the lineup….And I wasn’t much of a tebow fan but Rex did get him here to run the wildcat inside the 20…..Ok now I am the point where I want them to give him the ball….

  48. By THUNDER LIPS on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    too many mistakes second class scared coaching abd lackof discipline turned a gareat effort into a loss

  49. By IRA on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Thought they would have a chance in the 4th and they let one slip away. Too bad Sanchez played very well along with Davis, Trufant, Kerley, Keller who is the key to make this offense go, and the entire D in most part. Too bad they didn’t keep attacking the last few minutes of the game on both sides of the ball. No moral victories here but theis team is getting better each week since the Hou game. Get this Mia game and they are right in the mix. They better come up with another RB because if Greene takes one more shot to the head it will not be good. Kudos to McKnight playing through the pain.

  50. By Jake on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Harry-o at the end of the game, who were we going to run the ball with. Greene was out, McKnight could barely walk. they tried Grimes but that went no where. On that drive after the turn over they ran the all twice for a whopping 1 yard. they had to throw because they knew what would happen if they gave the ball back to Brady with that much time left. They should have passed the ball on 2nd down of that drive instead of trying to force it on a 3rd and long when the Pats could sit back in a dime package. with that all being said, Hill makes that catch… we win the game. How many turnovers does Rob Ninkovich have against us in the last 3 seasons?

  51. By Jake on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    when I was watching the game. That first drive the Jets had in the 3rd quarter that ended in a FG inside their 5 yard line was a crusher. I told the people I was watching the game with that was the deciding play. Why would someone call a play that has failed 3 times earlier in the game because it’s so predictable on 3rd and 1 inside the 5, with a first down less then 1 yard away? RUN THE BALL!!! or at the very least put the one reciever that has hands and route running ability on that route. Why that play wasn’t run the Kerly baffles me, but the real point is that play should have been a run play. Sparano calls great plays between the twenties but he calls a horrible game on 3rd downs and in the redzone. One thing is for sure though, Kerly!

  52. By Jake on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    We need a veteran WR to play alongside Kerley. If we can get a sure handed veteran to go alongside Kerley and Keller, that will help out the O side of the ball tremendously. Schillens is not a viable options, most of all on 3rd down. That guy can not get seperation even on the most basic of plays. Hill…. dude, you have so much talent but where are the hands that we saw in week one? or even against the Colts last week. He is going to be the next Braylon-esk reciever, makes some outstanding graps, but drops the ones you have to have. The sad thing is, he’ll probably never be on Braylon’s level, hill will just have the same drops with out the high upside

  53. By Jake on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Antonio Allen should go back to the Practice Squad… He was the guy who missed his lane assignment that allowed McCourty do go untouched for that KO return. He was also the guy who got the Facemask penalty on that punt that gave the ball back to the Pats. He looked lost and sluggish. In Overtime he was a free runner at Brady on a key 3rd down and he looked like he was running half speed. Then, He gave up that huge pass play to woodhead on the Pats game tying drive at the end of regulation. He needs to get less playing time at the very least.

  54. By Stevesc on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Scjoe, you hit the nail on the head when you said the Jets do not win games such as these. I brought this point up on this blog last year as well. Whenever this team has the opportunity to take a division lead all by themselves, they blow it. I knew it was over when Hill dropped the pass that would have given the Jets a first down, and enabling them to run more time off the clock before either scoring a TD or kicking a FG. There was too much time left on the clock for Brady, and of course the Jets went into the prevent defense letting the Pats march down the field and kick the tying FG. This kind of loss with all the misplays is harder to take than if they had been trounced by 30 points.

  55. By Tom Spicer on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Tom 64, “Mark can not throw accuratly 2 passes in a row” Think about that comment for a second. How stupid does that sound when the guy completed 68% of his passes on the game & threw for 328 yards with at least 4 drop passes 1 of which would have won the game. Also on 1 TD drive he lead them down the field & was 9 for 10 on that drive. Plus a guy throws 41 passes in a game 1 of them is going to be off line being a former QB YOU should know that. Comparing a guy dropping a ball that hits him in the chest with no one within 10 yards of him that would win the game to a QB missing on a throw is comical at best! If you dont like / want him that is fine but you are BEYOND overboard with your comments.

  56. By scjoe on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    What is amazing to me is, the same few people continue to defend Mark Sanchez although 90% of the fan base see’s the inaccuracy and the poor decision making on just about every other play call. What is it that you don’t get? I have mentioned this 100 times at least, watch the tape!! Slow mo each pass attempt! See where the ball is in conjunction with the receiver! Think about the all important YAC! Watch him closely in the pocket when a defender comes free! Pay close attention to the decision making on many plays! Do this for the past 2 or 3 games then reevaluate where you stand. It is much plainer to see on tape and in slo mo then in real time.

  57. By Tom Spicer on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Frank, You showed up today LIKE CLOCK WORK cause the Jets lost had they won you would not have posted. Also Mark had 2 turnovers not 3. He completed 68% of his passes with 4 drops please tell me how he was. “missing open WR’S all over the field” That statement could not be more wrong!

  58. By scjoe on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Now, re: Stephen Hill, same as above with Mark Sanchez. There are those of you who feel obligated to rag on a guy like Schliens, who isn’t nearly as much of a liability out on the field as Hill is, not to mention the cost to the team. Give credit where credit is due but at the same time place the blame where the real blame should be placed regardless of where a player was drafted or how he was acquired. I don’t know, maybe someday Hill will live up to all the hype and become a decent WR, but one thing is certain, that time is not now.

  59. By ron alexander on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    KARAN, awsome that u pointed out Hilliard! He is leaps & bounds better than “the Terminated” err, Terminator! 64, again, untill Hill learns to extend his arms and reach for the ball and caress it into his hands he is gonna be inconsistent catching(or dropping )the ball! Every pass he caught yesterday was against his body! I dont know how his W.R coach still has a job? IRA, you know I luv ya baby but although M.S threw some great passes yesterday I cant go along with you that he
    “played great”! His lack of awareness is as much a major problem as his inaccuracy. Until this year I have supported him but its gett’n old watching the same mistakes.

  60. By scjoe on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Now this is funny, or sad, depending on how you look at it. I was listening to Schein and Gannon on sirius nfl radio and they were discussing the Jets- Pats game about an hour ago, BOTH, said pretty much word for word what I wrote above in my earlier posts. Both agreed, throwing that slant on 3rd and 1 from the NE 3 was absolutely, positively, thee worse call you could have made. BOTH agreed you run the ball TWICE! You play for the TD! You play to win, you are playing the NE Patriots and you will need at least 30 pts to win. What good is it if everybody else see’s these things but the NY Jets coaching staff does not?

  61. By Charliejet on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    HEY REX / SPARANO – Knock on Coughlin’s door and ask for some tutoring. This team played it’s heart out. Sanchez I wanna believe in you and at times you found a rhythm and you played your heart out – as did the rest of the team. But Mark some mistakes you make are not just mistakes but killer mistakes – I still see something in you, but that window is getting smaller. Bart Scott your day has come and gone (actually came and went) but his highness(Rex) has not seen that yet. It is in this franchise’s DNA to lose. We ALWAYS find a way – the Jets can’t help it. Rex, Sparano, Tannenbust. From now on Rex will be officially (WRECKS)
    Ryan not Rex Ryan. Nine games left.

  62. By ron alexander on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    GUYS,(&karan) the interception M.S threw was caused by the fact that he initally looked left to deek the safty but came back to Hill on the out & up move way too late! Hill was wide open after he turned upfield but Mark did not have his feet set properly which caused the ball to be late & under thrown. This was obviously a play they had set up and expected to score on, however,again, poor execution doomed the play.S.C.Joe & I have been harping on the poor execution all season long. You can diagram the perfect play againt a specific defence but if one person fails to do what the play calls for its simply not gonna work.

  63. By Tom Spicer on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Klecko fan, Poor in big spots? Lets take a look at that shall we 4 & 2 in the playoffs. 4 road wins in the playoffs. Those 4 wins were on the road vs Brady, Peyton, Rivers & Palmer. Has road wins at Pitt, Pats, 2 times vs Colts with Peyton, 2 wins vs Texans 1 at home & 1 on the road. 2 wins vs Bolts 1 at home 1 on the road. He beat Dallas at home & Denver on the road. In 3 full season he has beat the Pats 3 times. He actually has his best games in his biggest games. If anything IF you said he played down to his competition I could understand that statement more than he doesnt play well in the big games. Cause the truth is the EXACT opposite!

  64. By scjoe on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t always agree with what Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless say over on ESPN.com. But I would reccomend all Jet fans to go over and listen to their latest debate alnog with Eric Mangini on the Tebow – Sanchez – Sparano subject. It is a must hear.

  65. By Christopher on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Sanchez DID NOT have a good game….please STOP kidding yourself. His passes, even when complete, were way off target limiting any potential YAC. How about that pass to DK where he had to run out of bounds, easily another 10+ yards had he not overthrown him. How many receivers had to hit the ground just to make an attempt at a catch.

  66. By Christopher on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Jake, they should have passed on first down, when there was 2:01 left on the clock….how did that 1 second stay, oh yeah the clock operator messed up..watch the tape. But since the clock was going to stop after 1st down anyway, why not pass? instead we run Tebow up the middle for 2 yards. Great play call.

  67. By JetBlue on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Karan: Like Spicer, you gotta take that Sanchez Fat-Head off your bedroom wall. Open your eyes. No matter what happens during the course of a game, any QB would love to have the ball at the end with a chance to win. Our QB gives the game away. The QB has the opportunity to atone for the rest of the team’s sins just by driving down the field and scoring. Does MS do that? No! Tebow comes into the game with fire and is upbeat. Like him or not, he gets others around him fired up too. MS sits on the bench looking like his teacher just put him in a time-out. When Brady throws an INT (rare), he comes back and makes you pay. With MS, there’s no pay. He just gives it away. Over & over again.

  68. By Joe on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    IF,WOULD HAVE ,COULD HAVE, SHOULD ALL THE MARKS OF A LOSER (as Jet fans we have FORTY PLUS YEARS OF LOSING EXCUSES )Its been YEARS since the JETS beat a team with a winning record, YEARS. ITS A QB DRIVEN LEAGUE To win the SB TODAY its a proven fact A TEAM MUST HAVE AN ELITE QB.Sanchez is at BEST A BACK UP Said it once will say it A MILLION TIMES =THIS IS A 500 TEAM WITH 500 TALENT.If we ever want to compete for a SB a REGIME CHANGE IS NEEDED AND A QB MUST BE DRAFTED

  69. By Joe on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    You guys EACH AND EVERY YEAR TRY TO RATIONALIZE why this team fails .Its very simple WHY we fail =THE PLAYERS ARE NO WHERE NEAR GOOD ENOUGH (You are what your record says you are ) To.micromanage the loses islike FIGHTING OVER WHO HAD THE BEST CABIN ON THE TITANTIC Its a complete joke .

  70. By Joe on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply


  71. By GaryC on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Allan O’Dane,why has no one picked up Plastico,he already is doing his next career,Espn interviews,Look at Scott and Pace,that is what you would see with PLASTICO.there is a time when a player has it no more,look at A-ROT.Listening to Jet fans you would be thinking where bringing back Al Toon.We need speed,not less.

  72. By Joe on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply


  73. By GaryC on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    If you are going to do checkdowns,how is it that Greene is your number one option,first of all he has to catch the ball which isn’t always the case,then second he can never elude the first tackler,With him where the ball lands that is where the next down will take place.

  74. By GaryC on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Danny Woodhead,Danny Woodhead,a back who can get yards after the catch.

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  76. By Karan on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Right on Spicer. :D

  77. By Karan on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Mark is playing well with these “no-name” receivers. It’s not his fault they drop passes. Jets hit a home-run with the Jeremy Kerley pick. Guy is our next J-Co. Like I said, the trade deadline is approaching. I would not be surprised if Tannenbaum does nothing, but I like I said before, give Tebow and Schilens to KC for Bowe and all will be alright in the Jets Nation. Also very happy to have Dustin Keller back, one of the best players on the roster.

  78. By Karan on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    JetBlue, that fumble would have never happened if some of the receivers he has around him would hang on to the ball. And that comes back to the front office for not providing Sanchez with depth and legit receivers. You saw the 2010 season didn’t you? Saw how Mark played in the postseason with good weapons, did you see our record that year? He has Keller and Kerley this season. As good as those guys are, its not enough. Hill is a promising young wideout, but still raw. Mark is no elite QB, never will be, even I know that, but cut the guy some slack. Everyone acts like he ruined the game for us, yea that fumble was costly, he should have secured that, but that would never even have happened if Hill could have hung on to the ball, if……..

  79. By Karan on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    …….the Jets were not so conservative in the final minutes, if Chaz Schilens would actually hold on to the ball, if Greene could gain some decent yardage. Overall Mark he played well, he makes some bonehead moves and I wish he didn’t but those things happen, it happens to him more than others, but we have got to deal with it. However, I am not going to blame MS for this loss. And yea, instead of bringing in depth and legit receivers, the Jets bring in Tebow. I have a ton of respect for Tebow, but he does not belong here. I hope he gets a starting QB job someplace ELSE like Jax or KC. The Jets aren’t even using him properly, the guy is talented and versatile, that’s on them. Use him as a passer at times, run the ball with, be creative….

  80. By Karan on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    …… but it hasn’t worked out yet. He doesn’t have to be the starter to have an impact, they need to use him in other situations. But Mark has been the starter here for four years, I understand the guys no Manning or Brees, but he doesn’t have a legit unit receiving unit around him, 2 guys regardless of how good they are are not enough. He’s part of the team so blame also falls on him, all I am saying is he shouldn’t take the blame alone.

  81. By Karan on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Oh yea definitely, I agree with you on that one Ron Alexander, that pass to Hill was no doubt late, that’s definitely on MS. He needs to work on his timing in those situations.

  82. By SCfromNY on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Ok, same stuff again. First I said before, Sanchez had a decent game. Of this weekends LOSING QBs he looked OK. I have repeatedly been talking about YAC. Jerry Rice, GOAT, was not the fastest WR. Everyone in the stadium and at home knew the slant over the middle was coming but because Montaa or Young threw an accurate pass leading the WR YAC were many. This is my preference to TRY McElroy. He is VERY accurate. No Elway arm but Montana was no Elway either.Sunday news: Giants down as game as ending, Eli has a 76 yard pass. 1:32 left and a D that played good allows the Pats to walk down the field. Chance to tie or win and Sanchez fumbles. It’s always something. Spicer: What is the experation date on reliving 2009 & 2010?

  83. By SCfromNY on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Couple of other comments in response to posts. I would not dump Greene BUT the Jets need a #1 RB. Either find out if it’s McKnight, who I feel could be a Tiki like player, or trade and draft. I am not a Cam fan BUT I would not compare him to Jeff George. When things go bad for Cam he does his “Sanchez Sulk”. When Cam does something good he is “Superman” Just like being “GIDDY” when you lose. George, while he threw one of tha best balls ever he didn’t like to get hit. If it was flag he would have been in the Hall of Fame.If they don’t dump Schiens it is a travesty. Bring back Turner at least. To quote Denny Green, ” Sporano is what we thought he was” . . .Field Goal specialist and loser.

  84. By Tom Spicer on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Right on queue JOE CAPS shows up cause we lost. How come we dont hear from Frank or JOE CAPS the weeks we win?

  85. By Mike Jet Vet on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer .You always tell us about what Sanchez does well. You’re right sometimes he does, The problem we all have with him which you refuse to realize, other than he makes 10s of Millions and it’s his 4th year and we gave up plenty to get him all that aside,he does well to a point in certain games , Not many I will add But when ever we need him is a pinch or at critical times like Sunday He never fails to fail . he chokes every single time YES every time..So spin away you cannot hide what’s put right in front of us to witness.. Haven’t you noticed you’re the only one still defending him..

  86. By Jake on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Christopher, in your response to me, which drive were you refering to? I mentioned a couple of them in my 4 comment rant.

  87. By scjoe on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Stevesc, agree on both points, first, it is much more difficult, in my eyes, losing a game like this one, AND last weeks vs Houston, then getting blown out like they did vs SF, simply because they had a chance to win both late in the 4th quarter and failed to do so. That, to me, is no moral victory no matter who the competition, it is simply another loss. Second, and I mentioned this above, over the years they never win this type of game in this type of enviorement. I will say this though, at least this time they showed up, they were at least competitive, I remember all to many times over the years when they didn’t even show up!

  88. By JetBlue on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Karan: No matter what happened during the game, MS had the chance to take his team down the field to tie or win the game. What did he, and only he do? Why he back-peddled and held the ball out, fumbled and lost the game. How many times have we seen that same play from him? Too Many! It’s his 4th year and no matter what kind of WR talent he has, his basic QB fundamentals and instincts are horrible. Inaccurate passes, inability to read the D pre-snap, bad foot-work, doesn’t step up in the pocket, backs up instead of rolling out, throws off his back foot…etc. There are just too many bad plays that start with his poor play and low football IQ. Yes, he might have better stats if Rex knew how to develop talent. Then he’d be mediocre.

  89. By Allan O'Dane on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    GaryC, my comment on Plax was on pure desperation. I don’t look at plax as a speed guy, he’s more of a possession type guy. With Hill dropping balls and chaz schelins poor route running it’s just gets frustrating. kerley is the only one who is making a difference out there. And once again I blame this all on Mike T. All I know is that if that was plax on that 3rd and 2 he would have caught that one. And I do agree with you on Scott and Pace..these LB’s are slow and can’t cover TE’s or RB’s. I would rather see Maybin-Davis-Harris-McyIntrye out there.

  90. By ron alexander on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    S.C.J, right you are my friend about Schillens. It is unfair to blame him for the 3 slants that wound up incomplete. The Pats had obviously scouted us and shaded their corners inside our W.R’s to take away that pass.If people need to blame anyone it should be Sparano for not makeing an adjustment.He should have taken advantage by running Schillens on a slant & go, or put him in motion to get a clean release off the line of scrimmage? You mentioned Adam Schein in an earlier post.
    I gotta tell ya, that guy annoys the heck out of me. I have no clue why any one cares what he says? My guess is his claim to fame was he was his high school teams manager?

  91. By Mike Jet Vet on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Karan and Spicer are as good at Excuses and Apologies for Sanchez as Sanchez is at QB , Amazing I listen to their logic, Sure he should have protected the ball Hill shouldn’t have been in the right place at the right time and Sanchez couldn’t have done what he does best throws INT’s in the red zone, or Fumbles at the most opportune time for the opposition,,Let me try again in making both of you understand. He gets paid to win games pick up the slack when things go wrong like any good QB, not always yes ALWAYS lets his fans, teammates, and the coaches still sticking with him taking the heat GOT IT

  92. By kleckofan on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Spiceman- I know you’re a Mark supporter in spite of an overwhelming number of opinions from football insiders to the contrary, but you’re glass half-full take is delusional. How often will I have to say that it is next to impossible to surround a QB w the perfect team for his inadequacies? Yes, we were able to hide Mark for a couple of yrs w stout defense and a great running game (no. 1 in the NFL). That’s not the case now and he cannot elevate those around him.
    I want a SB not two lost AFC Championships, which are the “2” in 4-2. BTW, beating Rivers and the Chargers in the playoffs has not been the most difficult of challenges, ask Marty. Palmer: same comment. Dallas win was a gift from Mark’s role model, Tony Romo.

  93. By kleckofan on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    cont denver win was a P/I call on Cotch. We didn’t win in Pitt when it counted. I remember the last play before half in that game, you just remeber it being an AFC Championship game. We lost that game and we lost in Indy when it counted too. Ask 100 men who play or played in the NFL if they think Sanchez is a good QB and see what you get (use Gallup Poll not MSNBC poll).
    Everyone, Plax burned his bridge w us; he dissed Sanchez and mngmt won’t tolerate that. Forget it.
    Joe- love your “good loser” point; the real Klecko said the same thing a couple of weeks ago. The “lack of intangibles” argument against Sanchez is stronger than the physical argument.

  94. By Christopher on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    The one in response to harry-o at the end of the game. After the turnover when there happened by some miracle 2:01 remained on the clock.

  95. By kleckofan on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    For everyone out there screaming that Mark is playing w “no names” who can’t catch: yes, there are the Falcons, Steelers and Dallas WR corps who are great, but many QBs are doing great things w less than “star quality” receivers. Of the top twenty receiver in the league only one team (Denver’s Decker and Thomas)) has two of them. That means most teams do not have some stacked stable of wideouts. Their QB’s are not surrounded by talent and yet they get it done. BTW Kerley is tied for 21st on the list.

  96. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer, scjoe’s comment on Sanchez right after yours and then Christopher’s echo what I mean about his poor throwing. We’re talking about his lack of accuracy, which holds him and the O back even when he completes passes. As Christopher so rightly pts out, YAC is very hard for Jet receivers because MS very rarely puts the ball exactly where it needs to be, it’s very often overthrown or most often behind. I’m so used to watching Jets reach back to their wrong-side hip or shoulder to catch passes that I’m getting used to it! Just as importantly, though, on that game-ending sack, where did MS get the idea that you can throw a ball thru a DL guy’s head?! How can a 4-yr starter STILL not know what to do with the ball in that situation?!

  97. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    GaryC, I’ll give Newton the same 3 yrs that I’ll give just about any other QB prospect that good, especially one who had as good a 1st yr as he had. But that’s all I wanna say about Newton this yr because Jet fans shouldn’t really be talking about other QBs given our own QB situation. Any Jet fan who does isn’t really serious, kind of like people who’d rather talk about Big Bird, binders, and bayonets instead of the economy, unemployment, and the price of gas. Brilliantly comprehensive post on Sanchez’s failings and Rex’s inability to correct them, JetBlue. We’d be better off with you in the GM’s office than Mr T. Same to you on MS, MJV and kleckofan, the kind of mistakes he’s making are really inexcusable out of a 4-yr guy.

  98. By scjoe on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Ron, I am not an Adam Schein fan. I listen to Sirius NFL radio any time I am in the car. My favorites are Pat Kirwin and Tim Ryan. But, no matter what you think about Schein, my only point was that he, along with Gannon were dead on accurate about the chain of events that cost the Jets this victory. But moving along, here is what I find amusing, people here, talking about how MS “played a pretty decent game” are you kidding me? Isn’t that what a top 5 pick in his 4th year supposed to have at the very least? He was selected that high, and paid that much to be a franchise QB, not to “play decent” You can find a 7th rounder and pay him minimum salary to do that.

  99. By ron alexander on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Great point KleckoFan, Actually, Marks recievers are better than people give them credit for. Hey, there are no Victor Cruz’s here but Keerly is developeing into a really nice slot reciever. Hill although he is a work in progress there is alot to work with. No one here has been tougher on him than I have but the kid is 6-4 215 and 4.3 40 speed. Believe me those guys dont grow on trees. I see people here ragg’n on Schillens but he’s takeing a lot of flak for Sparano’s mistakes. This week they kept trying to force those slant routes even though the D.B’s were lined up on his inside.Not his fault.Should have made adjustments to the route or put him in motion so he could get seperation.To me thats bad coaching!

  100. By GaryC on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Scjoe,Wesley Walker dropped many a bomb in his day and is now in the jet ring of honor,Stephen Hill in his rookie year has three touchdown catches with missing time.As For Shilens, a guy as big as he is needs to fight a little more against 5’10 cornerbacks.

  101. By Joe on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer wants to know why he doesnt hear from me when we win.Lets review ALL THE FACTS ABOUT THIS FRANCHISE WINNING AND PUT THEM RIGHT ON THE TABLE During the SUPER BOWL ERA the NY JETS have won 1 SB and 2 division titles since 1967.The team HAS NOT BEATEN A TEAM WITH A WINNING RECORD IN 2 YEARS .The TEAM WAS VOTED BY THE NFL NETWORK THE NUMBER 6 MOST SNAKEBIT LOSING FRANCHISE OF ALL TIME .Spicer your joking right

  102. By Joe on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Klecko Fan ,SC Joe, Mike The Jet FANTASTIC points (as usual guys )Some people on this form are LIVING IN A DELUSIONAL FANTASYLAND OF JET SUPER BOWL VICTORYS TO COME .The very last time i checked the NY Jet players are actually being paid millions of dollars per year to do nothing but win the Super bowl .The Jet fans living in their own fantasyland equate the NFL to some high school or small tome college program WHERE MORAL VICTORYS MATTER

  103. By Joe on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    SC Joe great points about Sanchez .If we look at the numbers INCLUDING ROOKIES Sanchez is without a doubt one of the worst starting QBS in football .In typical SAME OLD JET FASHION ITS ABSOLUTELY MIND BOGGLING TO THINK WE WASTED DRAFT CHOICES TO TRADE UP TO GET HIM. Sanchez has started near 70 games and ALMOST EVERY ROOKIE QB PLAYING IS BETTER.SC JOE if you VIEWED his post game press conf he was GIDDY about the fact that THE GAME WAS NOT A BLOW OUT .How any JET fan could possibly THINK this guy will ever be capable of winning a SB in this era of ELITE QBS is beyond delusional

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  106. By Tom Spicer on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    SCJoe, So we can find a 7th rounder to play at the Pats. With a 90 rating, complete 68% of his passes, throw for 328 yards, lead his team back from down 10 in the 4th quarter to take the lead with no running game (Greene has his usual 54 yards) & to complete 6 passes over 20 yards (throwing the ball down the filed) without his only proven WR (Holmes) I really doubt that. I understand he has not proformed up to what he should have & you dont want / like him but I think you are going a little over board.

  107. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    GaryC, I appreciate the defense of S Hill but what on earth are you talking about with Walker? After about halfway thru his second yr he dropped NOTHING, he caught all kinds of TDs and long-gainers in heavy traffic, and later in his career he managed to perform even amid injuries. Let’s have a little less contrivance, please, Walker’s one of the greatest players this team ever had across the board, on and off the field. And he’s one of the only vets, along with Namath of course, to talk openly about how many decades behind the times Rex’s Jet are on O.

  108. By ron alexander on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    S.C.Joe, if S.C stands for S.Carolina I will be in your general vacinity late next week & would love to grab a beer(or two?) let me know as my wife & I are driveing to Hilton Head. No sweat on the A.Schein thing,I just find him & Manish Meta annoying. As for M.S’s performance last week read my comments to Alex Sanchez on Randy’s Rex’s Rex post.No way i was defending him. My intent was to point out his poor execution as he spent way too much time trying to look off the safty whic doomed the play to failure.

  109. By JetBlue on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer: Not to speak for SCJoe, but we can certainly find a 7th rounder that can fumble the game away. Get off the stats and watch the games. There’s just no way you beleive that MS is the guy you want in a big game that you have to win. If so, you & MS deserve each other.

  110. By GaryC on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Jetfantom,I am not blind yet,and I wasn’t back then either,but yes Walker did drop bombs.the best pure receivers the jets ever had were Maynard,Sauer,and Toon,who never dropped anything.Maybe other posters on here can back me and remember when Walker’s hands were not the greatest.

  111. By scjoe on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Ron, yes that SC does stand for South Carolina, but I am probably 4 hours or so from Hilton Head. I am just outside Greenville. I am seriously considering making a move to Raleigh NC. But on Schein? I find him pretty obnoxious myself at times, but in this particular case he was dead on.

  112. By scjoe on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    64, agree 1000% on Walker. You can count elite Jet WRs on one hand over the years, and Walker would arguably be first on that short list. Imagine if he had sight in BOTH eyes?

  113. By scjoe on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Ron, by the way, I NEVER thought you were defending Sanchez’s execution on that TD pass. I knew exactly what you meant. I just went one up and stated that even after he wasted those few precious seconds that pass STILL should have been completed. Hill was still well ahead of the defender.

  114. By ron alexander on Oct 25, 2012 | Reply

    64, you are always a great read here but I gotta point out GARY C is not totally wrong in this case. Like you I am a big Walker fan. But, he did drop passes throughout his career probably due to the fact that he he was legally blind in one eye.Obviously, he pretty much overcame that by putting up stupid #’s as far as T.D’s & yardage 7 of course some of the biggest catches in jet history. Obviously one of the all time great Jets.M>J>V, your comments to KARAN are spot on and done with class.Good job my man! JET BLUE, great point to the SPICEMAN. I love SPICER for his unwavering loyalty but sometimes he just cant see the forrest through the trees?

  115. By GaryC on Oct 25, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe,you just made my point on walker,THAT IS WHY HE DID DROP THE OCCASIONAL BOMB THROWN TO HIM,I did not say he dropped every ball but he wasn’t a 100 per center either.

  116. By ron alexander on Oct 25, 2012 | Reply

    GARY C, I got your back on Walker too! He dropped pass’s throughout his career but overcame that issue by being the greatest W.R ever in Jet history. Al Toone was also a great Jet but was never the same after a vicious hit from Dan Lloyd who stood over him and counted him out like a boxing referee! Truthfully, I was never so embarrassed to be a Jet fan as NOBODY did a thing about it! I was never a dirty player but i guarantee you if I were the coach or even one of his teammates on the very next play Lloyd would have been carted off the field on a stretcher!Toone suffered a severe concussion an dropped a lot of passes after that incident

  117. By ron alexander on Oct 25, 2012 | Reply

    S.C.Joe, if I’m not mistaken Greenville is fairly close to Wilson which I occassionally pass through on my way down as i make every attempt to avoid the D.C area as its often like getting out of the parking lot of a Jet game.We will have to figure out a way to exchange info off Randy’s blog.I seem to recall a sign for Greenville off of 95 too?

  118. By Joe on Oct 25, 2012 | Reply

    ps Klecko Fan iam Colts Neck NJ the real Klecko along with former Jets Burger ,Chrebet and UMiami Coach Golden were neighbors

  119. By Joe on Oct 25, 2012 | Reply

    Apparently the folks over at the NFL NETWORK are not too impressed with our dynamic dueo of Sanchez Tebow as WE were VOTED AS HAVING THE WORST-MOST OVERRATED2 QBS IN THE NFL (Spicer you had better contact the powers to be overthere with your EXCUSE LIST )Who cares IF we have not beat a wining team in years and are under 500 as some of our fans LIVING IN A PURE FANTASYLAND OF SUPER BOWL VICTORYS TO COME CAN PROVIDE AN STAT-EXCUSE FOR ANYTHING (winning in the NFL is overrated against NE WE TRIED HARD )

  120. By GaryC on Oct 25, 2012 | Reply

    ron,that was Greg Lloyd who played for Steelers,Dan played for the giants,I liken walker to toon,as I would caster to Barkum,Walker and Caster had the big plays but Barkum and Toon I would go to for the big catch.

  121. By scjoe on Oct 25, 2012 | Reply

    Ron, you are thinking of Greenville (NC) not SC! You do pass pretty close to Greenville NC taking 95 South. But Greenville SC is in the extreme western edge of SC, about 50 miles (maybe less) north of Clemson. You would have to take I85 to be in close proximity, not I95.

  122. By scjoe on Oct 25, 2012 | Reply

    Gary, don’t know if you will get back to this older story or not, but re: Walker, sure he may have dropped a few passes in his day,I really can’t think of, or know of any WRs who didn’t. But to categorically place him in any group who had chronic drop problems would be ludicrous. That would be reserved for WRs such as Stephen Hill. I know, it is still early, but you get the point.

  123. By GaryC on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Scjoe,the problem with you and JetFantom is you remember more of the game against the dolphins,the 51-45 game where Walker played like Jerry Rice,but he did have games where drops were prevelent.That being said,you have good taste in cities,Greenville,S.C.is always rated one of the finest cities in america,just go to youtube and you can see the beauty.

  124. By ron alexander on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    GARY C, Yeah, that right,it was Greg Lloyd. Who ever it was should have been severely dealt with! I dont think Walker was anywhere near the problem his side kick ‘Johnny Lamb” Jones was.That guy was blazing fast but couldn’t catch a cold!
    S.C. Joe, thanks for the Greenville update, your right, I didn’t realize It was the one in N.Carilina. Obviously with the impending hurricane our travel plans are sketchy at this time but I will check with Randy to see if I could get you my cell# or e-mail address. I agee this will be a tough game as we never seem to sweep these guys and they are playing better as Tannyhill is improving quickly.Is it just me or does anyone else here think its strange that Aaron Maybin has had so much to say?

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