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Rex’s Rx for Jets: Clean Up Mistakes, Keep Up Improvement

Posted by Randy Lange on October 22, 2012 – 5:18 pm

Rex Ryan’s message to his team, reporters and fans today, less than a day after the bitter disappointment of 29-26 in overtime at New England was that the best of 2012 is yet to come.

“We’re a better team right now, playing much better, than we were three weeks ago as a football team,” the Jets head coach said after experiencing a fourth-quarter comeback and blown lead all in the same game against their division uber-rivals. “I’ve seen this team improve on the practice field and with the games we’ve been playing.

“We’re just not there yet. We’ve just got to keep going, getting a little better. We’ve got to win these type of games. That’s what’s got to drive our team to prepare and get better. Obviously, that’s our mission. We’ve got to do something this week, which is something we haven’t done since I’ve been here, and that’s sweep Miami.”

Last year the Jets finally figured out how to beat the ‘Fins at home with their 24-6 Monday night win at MetLife Stadium. But they went from playing with house money with a hard-fought victory at Gillette Stadium to playing yet another one of those virtual must-win games. If the Jets are intent on showing the improvement Rex talks about, they’ll need to take a win and a 4-4 record into their bye week, then come out angling for a 5-3 or 6-2 regular-season finish to at least be in the postseason conversation.

A strong finish is obviously not out of the question. Yes, there’s the Thanksgiving night return match with the Patriots, and three of the four improved NFC West opponents, and a three-out-of-four-on-the-road finish, crowned by the Bills lying in wait for some opening-day revenge at the Ralph.

Yet none of the Jets’ remaining eight foes has a record better than 4-3, and the combined schedule strength is a very manageable .463 winning percentage (25-29). Very manageable, that is, if the Jets are intent on proving their coach right and overcoming the injuries and reversals of fortune they’ve suffered so far.

“We’re making strides, and not by luck or anything else. It’s by design,” Ryan asserted. “Guys have approached that in the classroom and on the practice field. We’re not where we need to be yet. We need to keep working hard and start winning games like this.”

The pessimist would say what makes the Jets think they’re ready to beat New England if they couldn’t do it Sunday, when they were 1:37 away from such a big triumph. The optimist would say that instead of house money, let’s shift sporting metaphors from poker to tennis. Let’s not worry about the Pats for five weeks but when it’s time, let’s hold serve.

One reason for the optimism is that while the Jets couldn’t keep Tom Brady in check when it counted, yielding a pair of 54-yard drives to Stephen Gostkowski field goals to pull the game out, they showed for the first time that, as imperfect as the offense sometimes was, it finally outgained the Patriots. The final tally was 403 yards to 381. Not a wide margin, yet perhaps significant since the Patriots had outgained the Jets in 17 of the previous 18 games in the series, by an average of 89 yards a game.

Additionally, the Jets cleared 400 yards of offense for the first time under coordinator Tony Sparano, in fact for the first time in 20 games since they last visited that figure at Oakland in last year’s Game 3. And we’re not sure what this says about reaching 400 in this day of NFL football, but the last time the Jets gained 400 against the Patriots was in the bad old year of 1996, when they put up 422 yards.

If Mark Sanchez can avoid the big pick on the throw into the red zone, if Stephen Hill can hold on to a crunch-time pass, if Jeremy Kerley is emerging as a dynamic pass-catcher, if Dustin Keller is really back to form, if the protection can hold up and get better still …

If, if, if. Yet with all the ifs, the Jets still matched the Pats in drive yardage (including penalties) at 387 apiece, still mounted six scoring drives, still rang up 26 first downs — tied for second-most first downs of the Ryan era (behind 28 in OT at Cleveland in 2010) — and have put together 10 regulation quarters in which they’ve outscored opponents, 71-41, since their San Francisco earthquake.

“We can’t go back in the past,” RB Shonn Greene said this afternoon about any inspiration he might draw from the progress he feels has been made since the 49ers game. “This loss right here hurts being that we fought so hard.

“But if we win this game [over the 'Fins], we can be right back where we were this past game. That’s how messed up this division is.”

The NFL at large has been scrambled a bit this season as well. But the teams that fix their problems quickest will be the ones standing in January. “We’ve got to learn from the mistakes we made in this game,” said Ryan, “and move forward.”

The Plays Are the Thing

Who had the most reps at New England? If you said rookie LB Demario Davis, go to the head of the class. Davis was in for a career-high 69 snaps on defense, in part package-related and in part Bart Scott big-toe-related. And DD was also in for a team-high 29 special-teams plays, giving him 98 plays in the game, second only to the Patriots’ Devin McCourty, who was in for 102 plays.

“We had Bart playing out there with a toe that most guys would’ve taken the last three weeks off with,” Ryan said. “Bart would’ve jumped out there, but from a physical standpoint, there was no way he could’ve played that spot and been as effective as Demario, who I thought for the most part played well. There were a couple of plays I’m sure he wishes he had back, but for the most part he played pretty well.”

Davis finished unofficially with six tackles on defense plus one more in kick coverage. Scott logged nine defensive plays and had one solo tackle, taking down Stevan Ridley for a 1-yard loss in the third quarter.

Rex Cetera

TE Jeff Cumberland anticipates returning to action after the bye week from a hand injury that has required a cast. … Joe McKnight and his sore ankle seemed to come out of the game fine. He had 23 yards of offense, 116 yards on kickoff returns and is sixth in the league with his 29.6-yard return average. … Nick Folk has equaled the franchise record he set last year by hitting all 11 of his field goal tries from the start of a season. … If you need a yard, call Greene. He converted on both of his third-and-1 carries Sunday and is 7-for-7 for the season. No one else in the NFL is better than 5-for-5 on third-and-1. And he has two 1-yard scoring runs this season, including the one to cap the Jets’ opening drive yesterday.

“Inside the Jets”

G Matt Slauson, RB Lex Hilliard and RB Jonathan Grimes are the three Jets guests on tonight’s “Inside the Jets” radio show from Grasshopper Off The Green in Morristown, N.J. The show will be hosted by voice of the Jets Bob Wischusen and will air live on ESPN 98.7 FM from 7-8 p.m. ET.


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92 Responses to “Rex’s Rx for Jets: Clean Up Mistakes, Keep Up Improvement”

  1. By robertpapalia on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    This is all baloney. The Jets played way over their heads on Sunday. They will come back down to earth when they play the Dolphins on Sunday. As far as I am concerned Rex must be fired along with Tannenbaum. Then they must get a new qb. In the college draft. Only then will the fans begin to have hope.

  2. By Another Tom on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Its safe to say that MS is not the man for the job here..maybe We could trade him for Phillip Rivers? I m sure a change in scenery would benefit them both, afterall Rivers was suppose to be in NY and Sanchez is from Calif…perfect!

  3. By ron alexander on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    s.c.jOE, i stated in the 1st half blog the pass to Hill that was intercepted was because of poor execution. M.S tried to look the safty off to the left and throw back to his right to Hill. The problem was his footwork. I went back on the tape and it was glaring! You & I have talked about execution adnausiam! proper execution requires proper technique.M.s tried to throw against his body which caused that pass to fall short as he could not step into it.The other problem was it was thrown late due his indecisiveness. Hill was wide open on the break.Of course as he has not learned the proper technique to catch the ball he probably would have dropped it anyway. I do feel he is gonna be a player but he still wont catch with his hands?

  4. By Jack on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    You can’t blame MS or pretty much any of the other players they pretty much played a good game till the end. But I do think the one who should take the blames are Rex and Tony Sparano for the terrible plays calling for most part of the game they don’t have any clue to how to used Tebow in the game. Its as become one big joke with the whole idea about being Terbow here. Its all about selling PSL, Tebow Jerseys and of cause the issue in the locker room. iright!! This team will never win a SB, NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

  5. By davetharave on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    They played very well on Sunday and could have won the game. They needed 1 first down to kill the clock at the end of regulation after recovering the kickoff fumble. The plays they ran before kicking the FG were ridiculous. They needed 1 first down and to kill as much of the clock as possible. The plays to run would have been to bring Tebow in and give him the ball. This is why they signed Tebow, to do what he did last year in Denver, to win the game when winning is within your grasp. Tebow would have broken tackles and gotten the first down, and probably a touchdown too. They got Tebow but they’re not using him the proper way. if you sign the guy you should give him a chance to do what he does, which is win games. Wake up Rex !

  6. By Karan on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Next weeks game is a MUST WIN guys. It’s hard to believe we’re already playing the Dolphins for the second time this season. Time is just zipping by. Please be aware of the Dolphins, they always play us good in one of these games, do not under any circumstances underestimate them.

  7. By Karan on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    I know its wayy too EARLY to be predicting this stuff about the Jets and the fact that we have lost our last 3 out of 4 games does not help too much either, but all I want to say is IF and only IF we can win 7 out of the 9 remaining games left on our schedule, we can most likely secure a wild-card spot. As much as I hate to say it, the Patriots will win this division, that’s just the reality of it. But if there is a Wild-Card battle, I can almost certainly say it can come down to the Chargers, Steelers and the Jets getting 2 of those spots. We need to keep winning and need a better record than the Steelers and Chargers.

  8. By Bitter Blinka on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Too many horrible mistakes. Horrible. To draft a new qb will take another few years to develop. We have to trade for one or thru free agency. Anyone know of any potential free agent QBs? Philip

    It,s too bad because we made an investment in him and I think he works hard but I am not sure if he can cut down the mistakes.

    Let’s see how he plays against Miami

    Sincerely,
    Bitter Blinka

  9. By Alex Sanchez on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Both of you are are ignorant. Sanchez had a hell of a game. What you don’t see is this team is getting better. Without their best reciever and corner they played tuff. Considering Baltimore lost Ray Lewis and they were blown out by the Texans. Who we played close. I see the Jets beating Miami easily and more to come.

  10. By Charliejet on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    You should have heard Joe-Willie on ESPN and I quote “Who are these people the Jets are drafting” they are not drafting the right people and he mentioned “whole sale changes from the ownership down is needed”. Mentioned that “Sanchez needs help” and NOT surrounded by a QUALITY group of players”. As per Joe, ‘there is a group within the Jet organization that Woody Johnson listens to from a marketing vantage point” and he hinted that Sanchez was drafted from an
    ethnicity not ability point, because of the NY market fan base – interesting stuff.
    Joe was being polite and speaking in a careful (apolitical way)- yet one can hear his frustration as well. Good stuff here…

  11. By Charliejet on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Mark Sanchez 16/20 190 yards and bought back the team TWICE from behind – all in the second half alone. The kid was finding his grove so what do we do? Send in Tim Tebow and make it all go out the window… what is the mind set of the coaches here?

  12. By same old jets on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    if sanchez can hit open receivers consistantly the jets will be unstoppable. He misses way too many open receivers that just changes the game. Missing hill and throwing that pick instead was a killer yesterday. Also, whats up with the 3rd and 1 from the pats 2 yard line down 6?? who called a shotgun slant pass by sanchez?? thats ridiculous. Thouhgt we were a power running team?? That was our chance to make a statement to the pats and we go shotgun pass??? that hurt the most to me from yesterdays game. Showed we still dont have an identity or were playing scared. Really shocked Rex didnt lean on Sparano to go make a statement to the pats and the rest of the league. Very dissapointed in that.

  13. By Howie D on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Even with the injuries and setbacks we should be 5-2 now. Texans and Pats were winnable games, difference is we don’t have the talent and expertise to capitalize. Sparano, Sanchez, Schilens, Pace, must go.

  14. By Tom Spicer on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Wilkerson & Coples played great games Coples needs to start from this game going forward. Between Wilkerson, Coples & Ellis we have our D line for the future. The secondary played great as well Landry was all over the field. Wilson & Trufant played good as well. Davis was active he should replace Scott pronto. Now we just need OLB’S Pace & Thomas can play the run but watching them rushing the passer or in pass coverage is painfull. Lex Hilliard has shown more in a few games than the Terminator showed in years. Kerley is really becoming a player. Keller was back doing his thing I was saying this for weeks the Jets really missed him & today you could see why. Hill is not ready for prime time he can block, he is big & he is fast but he cant

  15. By Howie D on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    Schilens should be benched. His fundamentals are flawed. He tends to make catches away from his body and his reflexes are slow. That’s a recipe for disaster and that’s why he’s dropping so many balls. I can see that from afar, why can’t these ‘expert’ coaches on the field see that? Sometimes you can correct technique, but this is basic stuff, taught in Pop Warner. This could be a case of “Can’t teach an old dog new tricks.” He’s simply not good enough.

  16. By Tom Spicer on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    catch AT ALL. You have to give it up to McKnight for playing you could tell that he is clearly hurt. Greene back to his normal self after a career game vs the Colts 54 yards rushing.

  17. By Howie D on Oct 22, 2012 | Reply

    I still think Rex is a good coach, but he’s testing my patience when he says “I have faith that you can put it in Sanchez’ hand.” No Rex! Face reality and move on. MS is not the answer, for a variety of reasons. Let’s see McElroy now. Let’s see if he’s the answer – THIS SEASON! If he’s isn’t either then we’ll know what to do in the draft. It’s no big deal to admit you made a mistake, we understand, but insulting our intelligence is unacceptable. Get McElroy some reps now.

  18. By scjoe on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Just a little off topic, just finished watching the Giants (SF) complete their amazing comeback after being down 3 games to 1 and win the NL pennant. Being a die hard Giant fan it took a little of the sting out of Sundays Jet meltdown. My prediction, Giants over Detroit in 6!

  19. By scjoe on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Now, back to the NY Jets. I listened to Rex’s presser, and I know he always likes to say what is politically correct re: his players, BUT….how he can stand up there and make a statement like ‘Mark was outstanding” and he was “extremely accurate” with his passes, is beyond me. And this, after watching the tape. In my mind, just because a receiver, TE, or RB catches the pass, it does not mean it was thrown with the accuracy needed to maximize YAC. If you have to go up to pull in that high pass, or dive for that short one, or reach far left or far right just to make the catch, and leave little or no room for YAC, to me, that should not be considered “extremely accurate” c’mon Rex, we all know.

  20. By scjoe on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    I remember a few here, actually more then a few, talking about the need for speed at the WR position. I remember them talking about the need for a big target, especially in the red zone for M. Sanchez. Well, newsflash, we now have 2… TWO.. big (6’4″) targets WITH that speed you were so desperately looking for, BUT, I “think” I am looking at the very same thing all of you are, and I see absolutely no change in the offense, none what so ever! I heard some talk about the running game opening up with the addition of that “big” “fast” WR AKA Stephen Hill, haven’t seen that materialize either. I have heard many say a new OC is needed to maximize this offense, We now have that as well. What is next?

  21. By IRA on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Every game there are a lot of IFs bottom line they lost and gave the game away. Sorry but they handled their last possession to win the game before OT wrong. The 3rd down call was a good play call too bad Kerley slipped the DB covering gave him so much room he would’ve had the first down and more. TD or FG game over if they pulled off that play and the Jets win. Problem was the 2 downs before that play.
    Loved that Davis got all those reps and hope he continues to get them. Hilliard is a keeper.
    Rex is 100% correct the team turned the corner in the 2nd half of the Hou game. Hard not to look whats ahead but right now all my focus is on beating Mia and the team getting some rest and getting healthy for the 2nd half.
    GO JETS!!!!

  22. By Jack on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Karen if your a Jets fans like I am. Then every game is a MUCH WIN I don’t care who your playing. I’m so sick of everyone saying that it a MUCH WIN for the Jets. To get to the playoffs or the Superbowl you have to go out there and win every weeks at home or on the road. I had my Season tickets for 47 years used go with my dad. I was too young to remember the Jets winning SB, 3. Since then I can only remember Jets losing and losing each years after years after. The closest I can remember the Jets getting to a SB, was in 1983 with they lose to Miami the 49ers ended up winning the SB, then in 1998 Jets was one game away but lose to Denver and the Jets finish the season at 12-4 Jets have NEVER win that many games in Jets History.

  23. By JetBlue on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    For all the Sanchez supporters (Spicer/Karan), I admit it, you are right. MS had a spectacular day…..for him. Like Rex, you seem to want to celebrate small victories like almost winning a game, or not having a horrible game. You ignore all the bad, and focus only on the small % of good. No doubt, the team effort was there this week. That is why it is so disheartening to watch the poor play calling, bad clock & time-out management, missed open rcvrs, & dropped passes. But all could be forgiven if when your given the opportunity to drive down the field and win the game. Never mind the MS stats Spicer. MS fumbled this game away. If he played bad and had a game winning drive, maybe we’d be more forgiving. Snap back to reality, Ooops!

  24. By Joe from PA on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    It was a winable game. MS was capable, not as good as the outstanding comments and not as bad as the awful comments. But as some point out his mechanics aren’t getting any better. My big question is when they cleaned house of all the offensive coaches why did they keep Cavanaugh as QB coach? It was clear to all that MS needed help in his development. Also if you watched that Texans game Sunday their great receivers caught some horrendous throws by Schaub. that’s what good receivers do, not drop the ball wide open on a critical 3rd down play at end of the game like Hill did. The MS underthrow for the INT was caused by his slow read as he looked thru the D and found Hill way too late and lousy footwork causing the underthrow.

  25. By jetsfan80 on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    No one trades up to select a promising QB for ethnicity reasons. That is absurd. As for football, well-written article & right on the money. A lot of “if’s” here, but true for other teams as well. The Pack are in the thick of PO race “if” #12 stays healthy. “If” he’s hurt, they’re in trouble. We just need to continue to improve and execute. We have to play with the team we’ve got. MS made some nice plays in the 4th qtr. My knock on MS is his inconsistent play. He CAN NOT seem to play 4 qtrs of great football. Time-mgmt, inaccuracy, decisions are all issues at various times, but should be fixable. We’ve got to focus on what’s best for the team this yr. #84 still dropped that pass regardess of who threw it. “Improve on and move on.”

  26. By GaryC on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Look,the jets offense is still scoring without holmes,which many people didn’t think could happen,they have more guys to spread the ball around too,the defense is not as inept without revis which people did not believe could happen.The younger talent in most cases has proven itself,which should lead Tanny and Rex on a mission to speed up the process of instituting more youth into the lineup.Next Up,the linebackers,Davis,Harris and whoever next.why doesn’t Garret McIntyre play more.My enthusiasm on Aaron Maybe not is beginning to wane.

  27. By jetsfan80 on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Thank you, Tom Spicer. I’m glad to hear someone finally showing a little love for that defensive line. I’ve said this a few times this year to those who called him a bust, Coples is talented and he will become a game-changer if given the opportunity to play. Pair him up with Mo and a healthy Po’uha and we have a massive D-line. They played D. Davis more snaps, he made some nice plays. I’ll say it again, Cromartie and Wilson did well in place of #24. Wouldn’t it help this team to keep these two and let Revis walk in the future to add more talent elsewhere (OL, pass rushing LBs)?

  28. By SCfromNY on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Some are still trying to find all these positives with Sanchez. He is like Romo BUT not as accurate. Something always happens. It is time to part ways. Which brings us to the only QB less accurate than Sanchez – Tebow. The trade deadline is looming let’s get something for him. Both the Chiefs and Jax are desperste for some good press. Tebow is not even doing what he was “suppossedly” brought here for. Brad Smith did everything Tebow does plus return kick, catch the ball and we got rid of him. Sporano the guru of the wildcat can not find how to ues him.On 3rd and 2 we should have run the ball twice for the TD. OK for a surprise from the coaches calling a slant. BUT Schileins? He hadn’t caught anything all day. NE is NOT a lock as AFCE Champ

  29. By chris long time jet fan on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    3rd down and 1 yd and instead of pounding it twice we pass and kick a field goal..the same dumb stuff we used to blame schotty for……guess it not shotty…….greene was 6 for 6 in red zone ……rex always puts mark in spots to make him look good ….but its not working …mark had a good game expect for his normal fumbles and interception..his mis reads and lack of ability to throw a lead pass…. mark stops the turnovers and we win 50 pecent more of our loses…also rex needs to play to win the games (lol) not keep it close and try to pull one out.

  30. By chris long time jet fan on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    mark needs conditioning program the more tired he gets the dumber he gets. the simple things like spiking the the ball to stop the clock and he walks of the field like its a time out…no ability to throw the ball away when hes in trouble…basic fundamentals …the funny part is rex says he the smartest one…..

  31. By Dan H on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t understand all the bellyaching by these so-called fans. Other then the debacle against the 49ers the Jets have played pretty decent football losing in NE, Pittsburgh and the number one seed in the AFC. They need to win against the Fins get the bye and then get on a roll which it looks to me like the ship is in the right direction. It was a tough loss on Sunday but all of this over-the-top wining that regurgatates the same garbage week-in-and-week-out makes going to any Jet fan site pretty tiresome. QB play in this league is tough. Brady threw a stupid ball that should have been picked by Cromartie and last night Stafford and Cutler threw at least two horrendus balls each that should have been picked. the Jets will be fine.

  32. By scjoe on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Ron, true! Sanchez tried to get cute, he looked left to try to move the safety, then looked right to find Hill. Now, I am not going to give him the benefit of the doubt here because of that, given that set of events that pass still should have been completed. Hill may not have been AS wide open as he was at first, but still open enough where almost any pro QB makes that play. The bottom line was the ball was under thrown. His inaccuracy prevented that TD and caused still another turn over.The only thing left to question on that play would have to be Hill’s ability to actually catch the ball.

  33. By scjoe on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Bitter Blinka….This can’t be THEE Blinka who played for the NY Jets in the 80s. I say that because of the statement you made about the time it takes to develop a rookie QB. I give you Dalton, Newton, Luck, RGlll, and Tannyhill. for starters Those are just the ones that are/were competitive right out of the gate. Almost all are light years ahead of where MS was at the same point. It don’t take 2 or 3 years to develop a rookie QB these days, not if you select the right QB, not if your scouting dept does it’s homework, not if your FO does it’s “due diligence”

  34. By scjoe on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Ira, you can look at 4 or 5 plays in that game that if executed correctly would have given the Jets the win. 1- The pass on 3rd and 1 from the NE 3.. 2-The under thrown pass to Hill in the EZ that not only prevented the TD/FG but was turned over to boot. 3-The routine pass that was dropped by Stephen Hill that would have been a 1st down at the very least. 4-The INT that “should have been” for Cro on that pass in the EZ..5- The phantom PI called on Wilson when it should have been 4th down, instead it is a 1st down and the Pats go on to kick the FG..6-, to a little lesser degree, the botched hand off to Greene which resulted in a safety for NE

  35. By scjoe on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    How big is this Miami game coming up? Well, a loss, and 3-5 going in to the bye week with games at Seattle, at St.L and home with NE coming up after the bye seem like a very, very difficult task. Don’t pencil in a W on any of them just yet. But IF they can win 2 of the next 4 they better be against Miami and NE, if not?????

  36. By Byrdman on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Still – the D-line can’t get a sack in crunch time – while the O-line goes into cardiac arrest under pressure. We hired Karl Dunbar, thinking he could coach up the front 7 to improve the pass rush. Through 7 games the pass rush has been inconsistent and sacks are bottom 3rd in NY while Dunbar’s former team (Vikings) are 5-1 and their front seven looks fierce. TBomb hired Sparano and “Guge” to improve both the play calling and O-line performance. After 7 games … I see that the Dolphins offence, play calling, running and passing look Improved while Jets has regressed – what do you guys think ?

  37. By Tom Spicer on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    SCJoe, I can answer that question for you. 1 Just cause we got a new OC it does not mean that that OC is a good 1. There were many names thrown around 1 off the top of my head was Haley from the Steelers. We brought him in & did not hire him. But he is good enough to be the OC for the Steelers. GO FIGURE! 2 One of those 6’4 WR’S with speed Schiliens was the 4th WR on the Raiders & even with Holmes out is no better than the 4th WR on the Jets 1 Kerley 2 Keller 3 Hill 4 Schiliens. If Holmes was not hurt he would be the #5 option translation = SCRUB! 3 The other 6’4 fast WR Hill cant catch the ball. I would say he has at least 2 dropped balls for every full game played.

  38. By Flash on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Has anyone really looked at the records of the potential wildcard teams? More so, has anyone taken a look at the Pat’s schedule? Assuming the Jets beat the Fins, the Jets have a great shot at winning this division even at 9-7. Despite their record, they have shown improvement over the last 3 games and the offense has put up some numbers. A win this week,,,and then the bye. They should be ready to shut up the critics in the 2nd half

  39. By ron alexander on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    HOWIE D, dude, get a clue! Schillens catching away from his body is exactly what recievers are taught to do! S.Hill on the other hand continues to try to catch the ball against his body? Tell me Howie, hows that work’n out for him. He leads the team in dropped passes inspite of the fact he has missed 3 games? Thats how! The key is to extend your arms towards the ball as it approaches you to limit the Db’s ability to reach in &deflect it. Also, if you allow the ball to come to you it can deflect off your pads & be picked off. IRA, do teams that have “turned the corner” lose the only 2 games they have played since turning the corner?

  40. By ron alexander on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    ALEX SANCHEZ, I dont want to be disagreeable as you & I havn’t chatted, but heres the thing; If Mark didn’t overthrow a wide open Dustin Keller he would have gained a lot of additional yardage early in the game.If he didn’t throw late & short to Hill in the endzone he would have had a T.D instead of a int.If he didn’t screw up the handoff along with Greene the Patsies wouldn’t have gotten a safty,If Mark
    hadn’t fumbled twice & taken 2 sac’s which lost valuable yardage? If he just cut those mistakes in half then I would agree with you about his performance.But thats a lot of “ifs’, so no I thought he made some nice plays, some good throws, but way too many mistakes to say he played a hell of a game?Sorry Alex!

  41. By Blinka the Merciful on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    I have no problem with the play calling after the fumled kickoff. That’s right.
    Listen folks who is to say that Brady does not score a td afterwards, huh?
    The Jets were trying to take time off the clock,and score with no time left, period.
    If you want to place blame, you can blame it on execution and maybe the type of running play that they ran. But this is really the best example of Monday morning qbacking I’ve seen.
    Why am I wrong?

  42. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    This is me cutting Sanchez a break, Spicer. From USA Today: “It’s okay for Ryan to bail on the Tebow experiment, which has been an obvious failure. Or he should shelve it entirely for a week and see what happens. He should tell MS before the 1st practice of the week, “You’re our guy this Sunday. You and nobody else.” See what that will do for his confidence and the team’s belief in him. And when MS has a hot hand, like Sunday in Foxboro, especially at a pivotal point when all of the momentum is on his side and the O’s side, don’t send him in motion as part of misguided trickery. Let him take the snap from C. Have some faith in him and give him more than one down and a third of the field to make a play.” But MS still has to throw better.

  43. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Alex, the problem with Sanchez remains that qtr to qtr, game to game, and season to season, he progresses and then regresses in just about equal measure. And by the end of the year, he’s had the same season he’s always had for us, a 70 QB rating and down in the bottom 3rd of QBs. I’m willing to give him this yr to shine. The injuries and new personnel actually present a good test for him because as long as people on this site are posting things like, “Mark doesn’t have to be great as long as everything around him is perfect,” we’re not going anywhere. That statement has to become “Mark is great even when almost nothing around him is perfect.” That’s what they say about the great ones and that’s the kind of QB you need to go all the way.

  44. By Bitter Blinka on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe,
    Please will you think it out? Thank you.
    Are we picking 1 thru 5? No. I assume we will finish about 8 -8 and have a middle pick. If that type of talent even exists in next years draft, they will be gone. Come on man!

    Sincerely,
    #54

  45. By Bitter Blinka on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Charli,

    Unfortunetely you are right.
    If you can believe it, we may have been better off with Dolan owning the team. Woody does not get it.
    And you have to look at his mission to put a Stadium on the westside as a testimonial to his poor judgement.

  46. By Blinka the Merciful on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    I’m taking Wilson off the list of Shame. I think he playing better and he was picked very late in the first round.

    Gholton
    Sanchez
    Wilkerson

    What’s going on here!!!

  47. By RyanO on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Yes the ball Sanchez threw to the endzone was late and short, but given the time the ball was in the air, you’d think Hill would have made SOME kind of effort to come back and break up the play. He didn’t. He stood on the goal line lamenting the touchdown that should have been rather than competing. His dropped pass was a killer. Game, set, match right there.

    Enough of the McElroy talk. Sanchez has the talent. He doesn’t have the supporting cast yet. Although Kerley had a great game. The offensive woes of this team still have everything to do with their OC, recieving talent, lack of speed and lateral movement out of the RB position. Sanchez’ great play fake ability is useless without a true threat at RB.

  48. By chris long time jet fan on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    mark knows rex is never going to sit him..mark never had to earn his job…tebow was brought in to make mark look good..all mark has to do is stop talking points off the board…and the defense needs to win some of winning game battles they rarely do…..we have more talent on this team than most jet teams but we still say same old jets…..and i know the referenees dont help..when ever we have a momentum play i always wait for the flag..

  49. By Howie D on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Ron Alexander: I’m not comparing Schilens to Hill. Hill’s a rookie and I’m willing give him more time as I do with all rookies. Schilens is in his 5th year and he’s isn’t cutting the mustard – FACT! I could also argue that desipte sitting the 3 games you referenced, Hill has 3 TDs and Schilens has ZERO. If Hill doesn’t improve in a couple years and becomes a detriment I’d say goodbye to him too, but he’s a rookie now. Just like Sanchez, I gave him the benefit of the doubt for 4 years. I’ve seen enough and it’s time for a change. There are different ways to catch the ball depending on the situation, he has the same approach and his reflexes are slow. You can defend him if you wish, but I’m not doing cartwheels for him.

  50. By scjoe on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    DanH, technically you are right, the NY Jets played “pretty decent” football as you stated, in their losses to Houston and NE. The key word in that statement being “losses” If you break down the NE game you will see with out a doubt that it took just a little more then “pretty decent” football to win that game. If you are a guy who is OK with moral victories you are OK, you are good. Me personally? I think a moral victory is a loss! No matter how you break it down or how you sugar coat it. But those Sanchez comparisons to Brady, Stafford and Cutler you spoke of, all I can say to those are, are you kidding me? What Brady or even Stafford do once in a while, Sanchez does 2 or 3 times a game, every game. That is the difference.

  51. By scjoe on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Flash, dead on accurate! I truly believe we will see at least one 8-8 team this year as a WC team. The field is wide open, Jets included. But, that is assuming they do their part. How many more games can you let slip away like these last 2 against 2 of the leagues best and still remain competitive? At some point you have to go out and win those type games as opposed to almost always losing them. And yes, I too believe the Jets have just as good a chance at winning the division then the Pats do, based solely on the schedule, but once again, they absolutely must have much better execution on the field then they have theses past 2 games, if not, it is a moot point.

  52. By scjoe on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer, you know I have to disagree with a couple of points you made above. 1- To put Stephen Hill above ANY WR on this roster is absolutely insane. He at least has to demonstrate the ability to catch a routine pass before you can even dream of doing that. As for Schliens? He is getting a bad rap by a lot of people here, why? I have no idea. I am pretty sure you tivo the games, go take a look at the ball placement on a couple of those passes thrown to Schliens and tell me honestly just how “routine” you think they were. As for the OC? Sorry, I will have to go on record here and say it would not matter if it were Shotty, Sparano, Haley, or anyone else. That is not the heart of the problem.

  53. By Tom Spicer on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Mike Jet Vet, Greene has 4 100 yard games in 4 years please spare me.

  54. By scjoe on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Blinka, Dalton? 2nd round!, Tannyhill? 1st rd #8 just off the top of my head. Point being, you don’t ALWAYS need a top 5 pick to get a franchise QB.

  55. By GaryC on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    That’s right Scjoe,we have big tall receivers with speed and Jason Hill with 4.3 speed.Go ask Sparano why he isn’t throwing the ball down the field.Maybe he thinks he has Miami’s receiving corp with the jets.

  56. By GaryC on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    The Jets are always turning the corner until the next corner comes up and they trip off the curb,The curb being Miami this week.

  57. By TONY GARCIA on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    JET FAN SINCE 1969.
    WHY do the majority of post our negative maybe some frustrated jocks.
    TEAM is playing much better,let everyone play end of year those who could’nt cut the mustard see ya.WITH roster we have i think were doing ok.PS SANCHEZ will never be elite but he can be a decent Q.B.

  58. By Bitter Blinka on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Jetfan80:
    It is absurd. Does it mean it’s not true? Woody has a host of absurdities. That ethnicity matter with Sanchez is right up woody’s alley

    And don’t be so quick to name the d-line the new sack exchange yet.
    Not convinced that couples has what it takes yet.

  59. By Mike Jet Vet on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer Spicer, I assume your point on Greene’s 4 100 yard games in 4 years means What? we should replace him with J-McKnight who hasn’t any 100 yard games in 4 years. scratching my head on that one Spicer you are so easy ,How about please spare me

  60. By Byrdman on Oct 23, 2012 | Reply

    Sitting here looking at our 3-4 record and a huge division game Sunday – I’m thinking this is the pivot point,, Lose this one – we should tap the breaks on any playoff talk. A 7-9 record might secure a top 12 draft pick, historically the elite game-breaking talent is still on the board. Realistically this roster is one or two dangerous players away on offense and defense from being a SB contender. WIn Sunday, go into the bye at 4-4 with a bit of momentum maybe, we put together a mini-run and wind up 10-6, Wildcard game! We’ve seen that movie before – probably means we are stuck with Rex, Sparano, Sanchez and Tbomb for 2013 – which scenario do you guys think is better in the long run?

  61. By chris long time jet fan on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    shonne greenes avg to date is 4.2 yds and that counts his 1054 yds last yr and thats with a qb that keeps nobody honest….we are stuck with mark as long as rex is the coach.mark has the potential so maybe the same mistakes he keeps making should tell us we need a new qb coach also.

  62. By ELI RODRIGUEZ on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Winning is not a sometime thing; it’s an all time thing. You don’t win once in a while, you don’t do things right once in a while, you do them right all the time. Winning is habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.
    Vince Lombardi
     
    (PEOPLE LET’S NOT SETTLE— BOTTOM LINE— WE STILL LOST)

  63. By Tom Spicer on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Blinka, I think Wilkerson has been playing really well I would not put him on that list.
    My list is Ducasse, Gholston, Greene for sure 100% & maybe Hill, Sanchez & Wilson. The last 3 are yet to be determined.

  64. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Byrdman, we’re at least 4 or 5 guys away on O — RB, WR, TE, one or two guys on OL, and most of all QB. So what I think is better in both the long and short run is a complete makeover, from Woody on down. But I’ll give Rex, Sparano, and Sanchez the rest of the yr to show me a reason to suffer thru this weak, rudderless edition of the Jets any longer.

  65. By ron alexander on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    HOWIE D, no i didn’t think you were comparing Schillens & Hill, I was to illstrate a point. As for Hills 3 T.D’s lets not forget he also has 7 dropped passes as well. Dont get me wrong, I am not neccessarily a big fan of Schilens as he is no Jerry Rice! I simply defended him because it was not his fault he could not make those catches on the 3 slant routes. As I said, the Pats obviously had us well scouted and had their D.B’s squatting inside to take away the slants. Sparano’s spotters in the booth should have recognized it and adjusted the routes or put him in motion to avoid ths jam.Bye the way, the only way to consistently catch a football is to reach out and catch it with your hands.No good coach would advocate catching against the body

  66. By ron alexander on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    S.C.Joe, I was not defending M.S. for screwing up the pass to Hill. Quite the contrary, I was simply pointing out what he did wrong! You & I have both stated execution is a big problem with this team and it was poor execution on Marks part that doomed that play to failure. RYAN O, Hill had absoloutely zero chance of coming back to break up that pass. The ball was thrown 10 yds short and he was running full speed in the other direction.It was more the timing than the location that doomed that play as the ball was actually thrown right about where Hill was on his break only too late..Mark took too much time trying to look the safty off & missed Hill on the break where he was wide open.

  67. By jetsfan80 on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Bitter Blinka, do you know Woody personally or something? Why would you just assume an owner would want to draft a QB based on ethnicity alone and not on winning a Super Bowl. In the end, winning sells tickets, so don’t try to give me that garbage. As for the d-line, I wish they were the new sack exchange. I agree with you. They’re not there……..yet.

  68. By Tom Spicer on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Mile Jet Vet, In the prior post you were saying how Greene is not the problem & acted like he had a big game. Well he had 54 yards vs the Pats & has rushed for 100 yards 4 times in 4 years.

  69. By Tom Spicer on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    SCJoe, I put Hill above Schelins due to the fact that Hill is a rookie with upside potential. Schilens has been in the game 5 years & has done nothing. He has never had a 100 yard reciving day. He has never had a day as Hill’s game vs the Billls .The same way you think Mark Sanchez will never be a good QB I think Schilens will never be a good WR.

  70. By Tom Spicer on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Ryan O, I agree 100% I watched the game again on NFL replay last night. I rewoned that play multiple times & watched it over & over. Hill was wide open for a TD Mark was looking the other way. By the time Mark saw him & threw the ball it was to late. He never should have thrown the ball with that being said Hill stood there & did nothing until the ball was picked off. He should have ran back to the ball & tried to catch it or at least knocked it down. HE DIDNT EVEN TRY! With his 6’4 height & his 4.2 speed going agaisnt a 5’10 corner he had just a good a shot at catching the ball if not better. Or at least he could have knocked the ball down.

  71. By Tom Spicer on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Ryan O, Agree 100% part 2 “Sanchez has the talent. He doesn’t have the supporting cast yet. Sanchez’ great play fake ability is useless without a true threat at RB.” Greene has 1 good game & guys think he is good. He has no speed, he has no elusiveness, for a big back he runs no one over, he always gets nicked up, he can not pass block & he can not catch. With Holmes out we have not 1 WR with a good season under there belt NOT 1! Our TE Keller is our best pass catcher
    HOW SAD IS THAT! Kerley thru 7 games has played great & I am happy about that
    but that is all we got. If you noticed they started to double team Kerley is the Pats game & now other teams will start to do that. We need someone to step up. Mark has the talent he just needs

  72. By Tom Spicer on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    weapons around him to succed smart teams get a QB & surrond him with weapons. The Jets just draft D player after D player after D player. Top picks the last 3 years 2010 Wilson & Ducausse 2011 Wilkerson, 2nd round pick traded for Cromartie & Ellis 2012 Coples & Hill. WHERE IS THE HELP? In that same time frame you lose Thomas Jones, LT, Faneca, Woody, Braylon & Cotchery C’MON MAN!

  73. By Tom Spicer on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Example for my above post Matt Ryan. The Falcons draft Matt Ryan than spend a 1st round pick on Roddy White, sign Mike Turner as a free agent, trade for Tony Gonzles & trade ALOT up into the high 1st round for Julio Jones. DO YOU SEE WHAT THEY ARE DOING? MAKES SENSE RIGHT!

  74. By Tom Spicer on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    chris long time jet fan, 1054 yards in a 16 game season is 65 yards a game SORRY THAT IS NOT GOOD! The starting point for a good RB is 1,200 yards maybe 1,300 depending on your view. But 65 yards a game aint cutting it!

  75. By kleckofan on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Just some quick replies/comments to some new names on here (new to me anway).
    T. Garcia- I will put you on the list w the other “fans” here who think that Mark being “decent” is accepatble. Let’s ignore that we gave up picks to trade up to 5th to get him, we pay him mega bucks and he’s in his 4th yr. “Decent” is just fine.
    RyanO- did Eli have a great supporting cast when the Gints went on the road and whipped carolina on nat’l TV? I believe they were down to their 4th string RB and using 3rd & 4th string receivers. With a few exceptions in the league, most QB’s have a few good players to support them, not a cast to hide their inadequacies.
    Byrdman- give me 3-13 and no Tanny,no Sanchez, no Cavanaugh, no Scott & Gruden as HC and Rex as DC.

  76. By chris long time jet fan on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    even if we beat miami which is 50/50.. poeple still think we will make wilcard ….thats a losing mentality already .the jets have enuff of that……we still have good teams to play and mark still gives us 1 interception and 1 fummble and usually 2 batted balls per game thats the only thing that is a given… mark is the weak link…..but has the potential ….he needs a teacher… and a coach that can be honest and doesnt have rose colored glasses/

  77. By PIEMAN on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    I feel that although we have been her before , rex is correct . the jets have played better recently and yes they do need to tighten it up a lot . they are sloppy when then they should be the sharpest they can, and this is not easily fixed, critical penalties at the most important moments, interceptions when we are near scoring, drive killing dropped passes, rushing for zero yards on short and 3rd in the red zone, a five yard pass when we need ten for a first , way too many three and outs, not to forget about allowing a sack at the worst time. The play calling is off balance paas when we should run and run we we should pass, the miss use of tebow and the inconsistant way that he is used even coach westhoff’s boys had a bad day last week.

  78. By PIEMAN on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    To fix these problems will not be easy . the first thing and most important, is to play like a wildman, go out and knock the snot out of somebody , attack and then keep on attacking 85 bears and thier jail break deffense . MR. TEBOW PLAYS WITH THIS ATTITUDE AND LOOK WHAT IT’S DONE FOR HIM

    I PRAY THAT THE BOYS IN GREEN WHITE WILL SHOW SOME FIGHT, AND NOT PACK UP THIER TENT AND GO OUT WITH A THUD

  79. By JetBlue on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    I asked a Patrots fan that I work with what he thinks of the Jets as an organization. Here’s what he said: “We love the Jets. We can always count on them to attract all the attention before the season and then we get to watch time and time again as they shoot themselves in the foot. Your team is a joke. Your coach is a joke. Your QB is a joke. But we love ‘em all because as long as Rex is coach and Sanchez is QB, we’ll continue to stack up those divsion titles we’ve grown so fond. Last week’s game was a prime example of how we played one of our worst games of the season, and the Jets handed it over to us. We don’t fear or respect them because they don’t have that aura that a team like the Steelers has – they’re well coached”.

  80. By Joe on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Hello to ALL THE DELUSIONAL JET FANS LIVING IN A FANTASYLAND OF SB VICTORYS TO COME THE LAST TIME I CHECKED THIS IS THE NFL .Inturn, ABSOLUTELY- POSITIVELY NO ONE CARES IF A TEAM PLAYS WELL AND THEY LOSE THE GAME WINNING IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS .Despite PROMISING -GUARANTING US A SUPER BOWL WIN REX RYAN in 4 years here has not won a title of any kind .(As a matter of fact the Jets HAVE NOT BEAT A TEAM WITH A WINNING RECORD IN TWO YEARS )

  81. By Joe on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    The only thing that matters is WINNING THE SB THATS IT .Historically something like 90 plus % of every SB winner was quarterbacked BY A PRO BOWL -HOF PLAYER .LOL maybe the DREAMERS could please tell me (SINCE WERE ONLY A PLAYER OR TWO AWAY )HOW WE PLAN ON GETTING THE LOMBARDI TROPHY WITH PROBABLY THE WORST STARTING QB IN THE NFL DREAM DREAM You guys are only kidding yourself This is at best a 500 team

  82. By Charliejet on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    I think Sanchez came of age in this game… Now Ryan and Sparano should let him keep growing.

  83. By Byrdman on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Jetblue – I know a couple of flakey Pats fans too – they’re NOT from Boston or anywhere near New England originally. They went to Walmart and bought some Brady Jerseys after the second SB win. That’s the very definition of LOSER – they merely want to be associated with an NFL team that ESPN tells em is really good. I can’t relate to those shallow and superficial fans. I’m a Jet Fan from birth (seems like:) My Uncle Joe took me to watch the Jets play at Shea and the Meadowlands when my Dad was out of town. I’ve got a lot of great memories of MY TEAM and some of the GREAT PLAYERS over the years, like Dennis Byrd for example. You want to trash Jet fans like me… that’s fine – GO JOIN A PATS FAN WEB SITE – knock yourself out !

  84. By Howie D on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Ron Alexander: I’m not just looking at Schilens in the last game. It’s a pattern. One could even argue that he should have caught the onside kick against the Texans, that ball fell through his hands. I agree with you on the slants, I don’t think he suited for that role and I blame Sparano for that. After 7 games he has a whopping total of 121 yards. Considering how decimated we are with receivers and the experience he brings, he should be the go-to guy at this point. He’s not, because the coaches know he’s not up to snuff. I love the exchange, but I guess we’ll probably have agree to disagree.

  85. By scjoe on Oct 24, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer, it wouldn’t be fair to base Schliens (or any WR for that matter) strengths or weaknesses on how long they been in the league. He never started in Oakland, partly because of the injuries and partly because of where he was on the depth chart. How many times has he been targeted this year? How many of those passes where he was targeted were catch able? Those are the things you can more accurately base an opinion on. He can’t possibly match Hill’s 2 TD passes in a game if he is not targeted. Now, don’t misunderstand me, I am not a Schliens fan per say, just using him as an example and someone to compare Hill with.

  86. By sal cottone on Oct 25, 2012 | Reply

    Jack (one of the first posts) brings up a great point, last few years it was on Shotty, now the get Sparano, but the constant has always been game plans, sometimes w/ Shotty there were games as if he forgot to have one and did one on the way to the game. With Tony, he has had a decent carrer of game calling ,till now. My qustion is how much does Rex involve himself during a game with play calling, because one common thing between the two O/C they had, that there are times you just scratch your head, and most of them are turning points in the game. The D needs Rex, the offense dont!

  87. By Allan O'Dane on Oct 25, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer…I have been saying this for a long time now…If you look at the Falcons and see how they drafted they will be set for a long time. They will wind up drafting a stud RB to go with Ryan and Jones and they will have a big 3. Next year the Bucs will be right up there because this team also drafted well. I listen to Bill Polian on espn and this guy knows football not like that other GM (Mike T.) who I believe is just a numbers guy. Polian is the GM we need. Get rid of this medicore front office and bring in a guy who knows how to build a team. He also knows talent. Mark is a career backup. How in the world could you draft a QB at #1 after only playing ONE year in college. Unreal…..

  88. By JetBlue on Oct 25, 2012 | Reply

    Byrdman: You completely missed the boat on my post. I too am a long time Jets fan fed up with losing. I went to many games at Shea including Joe Namath’s last game at Shea as a Jet. This Patriots Fan I spoke of comes from Boston with deep roots and bad memories of when the Patriots were bad for many years. We go at it all the time with Jets/Pats, Knicks/Celts, Rangers/Bruins. We share a hatred for the Yankees – I’m a Mets fan. So, spare me the drama on trashing Jets Fans. I’m trashing Rex and MS and Tanny. They’re responsible for me not having any ammo when I go at with the Patriots fan.

  89. By chris long time jet fan on Oct 25, 2012 | Reply

    tom we finally agree on one thing shonne greene or any other running back needs more attempts …sg still averages 4.2 yds per carry so more atttempts more yardage and that will only help mark…mark will be good only it will take 2 to 3 more years …and we know when hes finnally reading the jets will trade him..and santomio was mad last year cause he had 92 straight games with a least 1 pass completion and mark never gave him a chance to keep it going.

  90. By Byrdman on Oct 25, 2012 | Reply

    Jetblue – You’re right I did misunderstand your comment and I apologize for accusing you of trashing Jet fans. Sounds like we have much in common except that I honestly don’t know any authentic, born in NE, Pats fans. All the ones I meet are recent (Dynasty Era) jerks like those I referred to above. It’s frustrating being loyal to the Jets for decades and watching the other teams in the division build championship caliber, consistent winners. Obtaining a great coach or QB is a bit like hitting the lottery: Dolphins hit in the 70s and 80’s (Shula, Marino, etc) Bills dominated the 90s (Kelly, Bruce Smith, etc) Pats grabbed Belichick from Jets and hit the Lotto big time with Brady 3X – wonder how different the last decade could have been…?

  91. By ron alexander on Oct 25, 2012 | Reply

    HOWIE D> Please, just call me Ron. Actually, we really dont disagree. As i said, I’m not a Schilens fan, I just thought it was more of a coaching thing than his ability to catch a pass as the play was taken away by the c.b’s posisitioning.And Schilens should indeed have held on to the on-sides kick vs. Houston. As Schilens is in his 5th year and has not established himself in any meaningful way I dont see him as a long term answere for us. I do think he has great size and if he indeed did run a 4.3 at his combine I would have to acknowledge he has great speed as well. The thing is, none of those measureables has translated to the field so to this point he is a dissappointment.Due to our lack of w.r’s he will have a chance to prove us wrong?

  92. By sal cottone on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    No Robert P, you got it all wrong ..neither team is as good as they were, not even the mighty Pats, who last time I checked havnt one a ring in a while!! The still have a great staff and the great Tom Brady, with that awesome recieving corp. Other teams have just got alot better, one advantage the Jets do have, teams know what the Pats are going to do, How can anyone know what the Jets are going to do? The dont know half the time, and they are still in it!

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