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At Midseason, Rex and the Numbers Speak of Inconsistency

Posted by Randy Lange on November 2, 2012 – 4:38 pm

It’s been a tough week all around in this neighborhood as people continue to dig out from the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy. Power’s still not restored in many places, trees are lying on people’s houses and in roadways, gas lines hearken back to the late Seventies.

The Jets have fared OK in the sense that the Atlantic Health Training Center is in good shape, the building has full power, and we haven’t heard any ugly storm stories from the players and the coaches.

But the Jets have needed to correct their different kind of power outage as much as possible this bye week before they gather back together next week to get ready for the NFC West leg of their schedule, road games at Seattle and St. Louis, then two weeks later at home for Arizona. (Not to mention the Patriots’ visit on Thanksgiving night.)

“You’re at the halfway point of the season and you really analyze where you’re at. And 3-and-5’s not getting it done,” head coach Rex Ryan told my partner, Eric Allen, late this week in video remarks that you can see and hear on this week’s “Jets Flight Plan” on Sunday morning on WCBS-TV. “We have to really look at what we’re doing and see areas where we can improve, expand roles, take roles away, those types of things. At the same time you start your preparation for Seattle and other teams down the road.”

Ryan and his coaches were making those analyses throughout the week here. What had they found at the time of this interview?

“I think we’ve been inconsistent throughout as a football team,” he said. “Usually a strength of ours would clearly be the defense and clearly be our special teams. And we’ve had moments where that’s been the case, but then we also had moments where those two areas have hurt us.

“Then offensively we’re searching for our identity. Sometimes we’ve been running the ball very effectively, other times not as much. I think we’ve had some excellent days protecting the quarterback, then other times when it hasn’t been as good. So we’ve really got to focus on how we can improve this team and see what happens. But clearly, 3-5, that’s certainly not acceptable, not to our fan base, nobody accepts it. We have to do a better job, and I always say it starts with me.”

“Inconsistency” comes through loud and clear in these stats, rankings and factoids that I’ve shaken out of my databases and spreadsheets at this season’s midpoint:

MARK SANCHEZ

It’s a mixed bag with the quarterback.

■ His ball-in-the-air-yardage is at a career-high clip of 8.6 yards per pass. But his receivers’ yards after catch is at a career-low rate of 4.0.

■ He followed one of the best-passing fourth quarters of his career at New England (10-for-12, 114 yards, 1 TD, 134.0 rating) with one of the worst-passing third quarters of his career vs. Miami (5-for-14, 53 yards, 1 INT, 17.9 rating).

■ Some key passing numbers, if sustained through the final eight games, would be career lows (52.9% accuracy, 6.38 yards/attempt), while the passer rating of 72.8 would end his increases there since his rookie year.

■ Three-and-outs continue to be an issue. Sanchez’s three-and-out drive rate of .292 (26-of-89) is 31st out of 33 qualifying QBs, ahead of Jacksonville’s Blaine Gabbert (.316) and Oakland’s Carson Palmer (.298).

TIM TEBOW

Tebow’s been on the field for 54 offensive plays, 6.8 per game, plus 49 special-teams plays, giving him 103 snaps this season, about 13 a game. With those he has compiled 23 runs for 78 yards (3.4 yards/carry) and two completions on three passes for 32 yards, one sack and a 102.1 passer rating. He’s moved the chains nine times.

Ryan was asked on his Monday conference call if the Jets look at ways to use Tebow more in the second half of the season. “I definitely think that’s a fair statement,” he said.

GROUND GAME

Inconsistent fits here as well. The Jets are 16th, right in the middle of the NFL rankings, in rushing yards per game, 22nd in yards per carry. Shonn Greene had a career day with his 32-carry, 161-yard, three-TD outing vs. the Colts and a regular-season-long 36-yard bolt against the Dolphins. But for all eight games he’s at a career-low pace of 3.7 yards/carry, which breaks down unofficially to 1.3 yards before first contact, 2.4 yards after.

The good news, perhaps, is that Greene started slow in last year’s first half, too (1.5 before, 2.3 after, 3.8 total) before finishing muscularly (1.8-2.8-4.6) in the second half. The returns of a healthier Bilal Powell and Joe McKnight to the RB mix and Shonn’s November-December push could help the offense pick things up.

RED ZONE

A big difference from a year ago is the performance on drives inside the opponents’ 20. In ’11 with Plaxico Burress doing his best work as a Jet, Sanchez had 10 TD passes at the midway point of the season, compared to eight this year — without Santonio Holmes, that’s not bad.

But Sanchez has already thrown three RZ interceptions this season, equaling last season’s total, and in the last 11 games dating to last year he’s had six giveaways inside the 20.

And the offense’s rate has dropped off, from last season’s franchise-record 65.5% touchdown rate to 48.1% (13 TDs in 27 drives) this year. Again, like many other areas on the team, the Jets’ five TDs in five tries vs. Indianapolis and a good showing at New England (two TDs, two FGs in 4 trips) were negated by the 1-for-4 showing against the Dolphins — one of only two times since ’78 that the Jets failed to score any points on three RZ trips in a home game (Atlanta, 2009).

Meanwhile, the defense has given up TDs at a too-high rate of 60.9% (14 on 23 opportunities), 26th in the NFL through eight weeks and the team’s highest rate since the ’87 strike-year team yielded TDs at a 61.5% pace. And the last time Jets opponents averaged more than this year’s 5.2 points per red zone trip was in 1980 (5.6).

THIRD-DOWN EFFICIENCY—OFFENSE

As we laid out last Friday, the Jets’ short-yardage rushing game on third down has been strong. Greene is 7-for-7 on converting third-and-1’s, and with Lex Hilliard’s pair of “and-one” rushing conversions vs. Miami, the Jets remain the NFL’s only perfect team when running on third-and-1-or-2/fourth-and-1-or-2 combined at 15-for-15.

Getting to third-and-short has been successful as well. The Jets on average face 6.2 yards to go on third down this season, which if it holds up would be their best third-down yardage figure since averaging third-and-6.1 in 1993. But with such favorable yardage on third down, they need to convert better than their 39.5% rate, which is 17th in the NFL.

SPECIAL TEAMS

Through six games Mike Westhoff’s special forces were doing very well. Using a simple rating system for ST big plays (7 points for return scores, 3 points for blocked FGs, 1 point for takeaways, non-TD blocked kicks and successful onsides kicks), the Jets were purring along with a plus-12 through six games.

Then came long kickoff returns at New England and vs. Miami, plus all the other issues vs. the Dolphins. The Miami game by this scoring system was a minus-11. The only worse game in Coach Westy’s Jets phase (2001-present) was the “Ted Ginn Game” vs. Miami in 2009 (minus-13).

Even with his sore ankle, Joe McKnight has been close to the once-in-a-quarter-century form he displayed last year in returning kickoffs. He had his second career TD return vs. Houston and his 29.3-yard average is sixth in the NFL.

Jeremy Kerley has been equally impressive on punt returns with the Jets’ first PR TD since Santana Moss at Pittsburgh in the 2004 playoffs and the first one at home since ‘Tana vs. Cleveland in ’02. JK’s 14.1-yard average is third in the league. But his 50% fair-catch rate (10 of 20 punts fielded) is among the league’s highest.

Nick Folk was on a season-opening 11-for-11 tear before suffering the block late in the first half vs. Miami. Still, his 4-for-4 from mostly long range at Gillette was “remarkable” (Westhoff) and his first half has been “phenomenal” (Ryan). He and his KO cover unit were No. 1 in the NFL in opponents’ average drive start after kickoffs until the last two games, when two long returns dropped them to 20th.

Robert Malone’s first half is comparable to Steve Weatherford’s 2010 first half. Malone has a better gross than Weatherford did (46.9 to 44.7), Weatherford had the better net (39.7 to 39.1), inside-the-20 total (17 to 12)  and average hangtime (4.77 to 4.53). Weatherford fell off in the second half of ’10 (except for his NFL-record-tying I-20s). If Malone suffers only minor slippage on his gross and he and his punt cover team improve their net (and cut out the punt blocks), he could threaten the franchise records set by Curley Johnson in 1965 (45.3 gross, 39.7 net).

DEFENSE

Individually, the Jets have some shining lights. LB David Harris is on pace for another 100-tackle season with 62 at the halfway point.

DE Muhammad Wilkerson leads the defense with 8.0 tackles for loss/no gain, putting him on track for the best total since Bart Scott’s 18.5 TFLNGs in 2010 and the best by a D-lineman since DE Marvin Washington’s 16.0 in ’95.

Antonio Cromartie is picking up where Darrelle Revis left off with his season-ending knee injury in Week 3. Cro leads the defense with 10 pass defenses and three interceptions, including the fifth return-TD of his career and his first as a Jet with his INT-return TD in the opener vs. Buffalo.

Teamwise, the numbers are not what we’re used to seeing from a Rex Ryan/Mike Pettine defense:

Overall yards/game — 16th in the NFL. Ryan’s previous seven defenses as coordinator or head coach never finished a season lower than 6th.

Rushing yards/game — 29th. The last time the Jets finished that low in a season was 29th in ’07 and before that in ’05.

Net passing yards/game — 6th. This is still in the Ryan ballpark. Rex’s Ravens finished 8th, 6th, 20th and 2nd, and his three previous Jets teams came in 1st, 6th and 5th.

Points allowed/game — 24th. Ryan’s ’07 Ravens scuffled to a tie for 22nd. The last time the Jets finished lower was 29th in ’96.

What would make everything better would be a big-time rush. With only 12 sacks, the Jets’ sack rate is 25th in the league, and their 24-sack pace would produce the fewest sacks in a 16-game season since the ’78 and ’79 squads each had 22 sacks.

Something else that would improve things would be fewer flags on the D. The defense has had 25 penalties marked off for 286 yards. The most penalties on a Jets defense were the 59 in ’95 and the most yardage since ’78 was 533 in ’86. Leading the way individually: Cromartie with six flags for 81 yards and fellow CB Kyle Wilson with five for 49.

That’s it on the raw midterm facts and figures. The Jets face an uphill road in the second half, one that seems in equal parts their making and that of the injury gods. But a few good teams overcome the bad IR and injury hands that they’re dealt to do great things (the ’11 Giants and the ’10 Packers among others). How did Rex want his players handling this week between Games 1-8 and Games 9-16:?

“I hope they get away from it for a little bit,” he said, “but also they have to look at what they want. I think we all want the same thing. There’s no magic formula. I think the big thing is hard work and dedication. And I’m confident that they’re recharging their batteries to be ready for Monday.”

Barring any unforeseen events over the weekend, we’ll recharge our batteries —literally and figuratively — this weekend and we’ll check back in with you the fan on Monday when the Jets return to work.


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52 Responses to “At Midseason, Rex and the Numbers Speak of Inconsistency”

  1. By Westcoast GangGreen on Nov 2, 2012 | Reply

    Jet Nation, With all the facts and numbers and seeing it on film explanes the career LOW in accuracy, which then shows why the career LOW in “yard after catch” for his receivers. MS just can”t hit them in stride consistently to help the offensive unit or just to be a good NFL QB. And! yet Rex can”t grasp it as a head coach. Unbelievable, this is not good for any head coach. Like you posted many times 64 Tom, Rex has no clue, nothing about offense..Jet fans deserve a lot better than this. Open your eyes Mr Johnson just open your eyes, your team our belove green and white have become just a NFL punch line..Not good!!!!!

  2. By robertpapalia on Nov 2, 2012 | Reply

    No matter how you put it Randy, this team stinks. After this diaster of a season is over, the Jets must rebuild. That starts with a new gm and new hc. Then and only then will the Jets be on the road to recovery. That of course depends on who they bring in as coach and general manager. We shall see what we shall see.

  3. By TD on Nov 2, 2012 | Reply

    As with many fans in the Metro Area I’m very disappointed with this team! Yes most notably the inconsistency but also I don’t see the attitude, vigor and Fire we witnessed in 2009, 2010. Not sure why. Sanchez has regressed for sure…his Leadership, confidence and decision making are Not where they were or obviously should be And its affecting the entire team and gameplan. The defense Is Not performing and not executing the fundamental tuff way they did in the past. Hard to pinpoint exactly why, but its not fair to anyone watching or involved….Ryan has to rectify the lack of a Winning attitude or he needs to Move On.

  4. By SCfromNY on Nov 2, 2012 | Reply

    I always enjoy looking at stats and polls but here is the definative stat = 3-5, a losing record. Should season end today Maimi would go to playoffs and Jets home. Forgetting stats what performance have we seen to be optomistic about the second half? YOU ARE WHAT YOUR RECORD SAYS YOU ARE! The only reason the Jets are 16th in rushing is the Bills and Colts. The 3rd and short record is actually a call for McElroy who can throw an accurate, short yard pass leaving those 3 and 1 or 2 yards. While Sanchez and Tebow’s short game is horrible. We nned winners and leaders not the same ole excuses and platitudes. Biggest disappointment this week is TEBOW IS STILL HERE. BTW, Jenkins was great but missed too many games.

  5. By stevesjets on Nov 2, 2012 | Reply

    Use Tim Tebow as a true weapon and stop the otherwise nonsense!!!!!
    The offense play calling using him is High Schoolish at most.

  6. By russ on Nov 2, 2012 | Reply

    Randy your assesment is excellent but the real cause of continued mediocrity is poor plaaning from management and not eliminating those who arent doing their assigned tasks..that goes from top to bottom…Example under Jimmy Johnson a player didnt perform he was released..goodbye youre not good enuff for this team..thats how championships are won…

  7. By ELI RODRIGUEZ on Nov 3, 2012 | Reply

    I PRAY THAT ALL OF OUR JETS NATION FAMILY AND FRIENDS ARE DOING BETTER, IT’S BEEN A TOUGH YEAR ALL AROUND!————PEACE BE WITH US ALL!

  8. By Tom Spicer on Nov 3, 2012 | Reply

    I just got my power back today because of hurricane Sandy. I have had no power for the last 5 days & millions more in the tri state are without power. 9 out of 10 people I know still do not have power. I have never seen anything like it in my life this is the tri states hurricane Katrina. Lower Manhattan is flooded, Hoboken is under water, Staten Island, Queens & Long Island have been CRUSHED with floods, fires, down trees, no power & loss of life. For all of the Jersey people Long Branch, Sea Side heights, Long Beach Island & Atlantic City have also have so much damage they may never be the same. The boardwalks / rides in some of the above places I just mentioned have been washed out to sea. It is not just the power it is the weather last

  9. By Tom Spicer on Nov 3, 2012 | Reply

    night my son told me he was to cold IN THE HOUSE & we had to go to a hotel. I see pictures of middle class people dumpster diving for food. As I had said before I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS IN MY LIFE. Halloween night after work I waited on a 3 hour line to get gas. Keep the tri state in you thoughts & in your prayers & if you ever thought about donating this would be a great time. There are thousands if not millions of people who need help.

  10. By IRA on Nov 3, 2012 | Reply

    Inconsistency is the best word you can use. But #’s don’t lie and a lot of the problems are due to the lack of depth and talent on the offense side of the ball. And lots not forget they installed a new offense [which i am not happy with] and they are rotating snaps at LG with Slauson getting 75% of the snaps and Ducasse getting the other 25%. Thats a problem when you have that. I think the D has played well at times even without Revis and if they werent on the field as much maybe they would be better. Last weeks ST’s breakdown well it happens what can you say.
    With all that said if they can find a way to upset the Seahawks i think they can then get to 6-6.
    Hope everybody is safe and ok.

  11. By Ed on Nov 3, 2012 | Reply

    After reaching two AFC Championships, we’re heading in the wrong direction. This tells me two things:
    1- Poor personnel planning, which is a GM / coach issue
    2- Time to clean house…bye bye Rex….and good riddance Tannenbaum.

  12. By Charliejet on Nov 3, 2012 | Reply

    Mars aligned with Jupiter, will cause the moon to change its angle and at the precise moment will cause brady’s key throw on the Thursday night game to fall short becoming the game winning interception for the Jets. That with the Dolphins being high jacked to Bolivia, the Pats coming down with a mysterious illness for he rest of the season and having to play scrubs, along with peace in the mid- east, the sun rising in the west and setting in the east. Elvis Presley coming out of hiding
    (we all know THAT), the Jets will indeed win the division and go deep into the play
    offs – no I didn’t forget Buffalo. They just don’t want to play any more they all quit and became pacifists. HEY! DID YOU JUST SEE THAT!! ANOTHER PIG JUST FLEW BUY! Amazing

  13. By Charliejet on Nov 3, 2012 | Reply

    Hey I really though Sanchez came of age in the NE game and I said it. But hey I’ll admit I was wrong (boy was I wrong) But I think after the bye, Sanchez will go on a hot streak and complete 4 in a row for 17.75 yards (total not average folks).
    Rex with his keen eye for offense will have his pat answer” I see this kid getting better every week”. Welcome to my bizzaro world.

  14. By Charliejet on Nov 3, 2012 | Reply

    OK I just bought the Jets. This is my staff:

    A) Blinka Head Coach
    B) Tom 64 Offensive coordinator
    C) GaryC Defense coordinator
    D) Micky Mouse General manger (Huge upgrade here)

  15. By scjoe on Nov 3, 2012 | Reply

    Looking at those stats above for Mark Sanchez you have to ask yourself why he continues to be the starting QB for this team. The one that I, along with a few others, always point out is that YAC (4.0) That, more then any other confirms his inaccuracy, even more then his completion percentage, (which has lingered near the very bottom for 3+ seasons now) because all of those diving catches, reaching catches and jump catches still go down as completions, although there is no chance for YAC. If there were a separate category for the “difficult” catch, I fear Mark Sanchez completion percentage would hover around 40-45%

  16. By Steve on Nov 3, 2012 | Reply

    In a word about this JETS team….LAZY. Always about how great practice was. But this team does not bring it to the field on Sundays. J-E-T-S are L-A-Z-Y.

  17. By SCfromNY on Nov 3, 2012 | Reply

    We keep changing WRs year after year or giving a WR (Holmes) an elite staus paychek for only averaging 44 catches per year. Perhaps our WRs are not the problem. Perhaps a QB who could throw accurately would make all the difference.A RB who in 3 out of 4 games is lucky to have a 2.5 yard run average. An OL that does not perform consistently but I will give a MAYBE to since many teams seem to work around suspect OLs. LBs that are mostly old and slow or backup quality only. DBs and safety could use some changes but a winnable combination. There are far too many changes needed to fix in one year. But we need to start with Mr. T, scouts, OC, and HC. I am not sure about DC but a clean house is probably best.

  18. By Frank on Nov 3, 2012 | Reply

    Should have made the switch to Tebow during the break…maybe they will play a rope-dope and Tebow will be the starting QB against Seattle. The kid would make this team alot more interesting and competitive. Sanchez is a joke with his awful play and would be benched anywhere else.
    Spicer my thoughts and prayers to you and everyone else.

  19. By Charliejet on Nov 3, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe my suffering jet fan brother. Good point on the YAC and the Sanchez”real world” 40-50% completion percentage rate stat.

  20. By punchie on Nov 3, 2012 | Reply

    It`s silly that our offence and defence is built to run a tebow style system yet we use sanchize. I prefer Mark to Tim ,though we have sperano as O coordinator , speedy wideouts with size and strength for run blocking and a coach that thinks all you need is to RUN THE ROCK AND MANAGE THE CLOCK the problem is our QB throws beautifull accurate passes on stop routs and stop routs only and wideouts that are greener than my beer on saint pats day, not to mention the fact that we CAN`T RUN THE ROCK let alone MANAGE THE CLOCK.

  21. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Nov 3, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry to hear you’re having such a tough time, Spicer, and I’m hearing that from many of my friends and relatives in NY and NJ. Having been through the same thing during the ’94 Northridge earthquake — and the same pathetic FEMA response — I’ve rallied people out here to do whatever they can do, but don’t hesitate to give us more marching orders. Maybe Mayor Your Soda’s Too Big (But My Brain’s Too Small) will come down off his gilded tower one of these days and do something useful. And of course, when you’ve got a president who doesn’t prepare for ANYTHING — not raids in Benghazi, not his own first debate, and not this storm — you’re not gonna have those C-130s flying to NY/NJ/LI with supplies before the storm hits like we shoulda had.

  22. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Nov 3, 2012 | Reply

    I’m flattered by the offer of the OC position, Charliejet, but I’ll gladly offer to share it with Ira, scjoe, Ron A, or even the mysteriously vanished Ranger 46 as well as many others who’ve suffered thru this low-scoring joke of an offensive philosophy since, oh, maybe around the time Wes Walker hung up the cleats…

  23. By Mike Jet Vet on Nov 3, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer. Good post your heart is in the right place, I pray for anyone losing love ones, homes, valuables, etc. all along the Atlantic coast. I agree totally,this remains far more important than Football….

  24. By GreenFiendNYJ on Nov 4, 2012 | Reply

    while these stats for Sanchez are terrible, i still cant hop on the “start or cut Tebow” train. However i do think we need to give him a bigger part in our Offense. If a competent OC perceived the “Tebowcat” as an “extra time out” as Sparano stated earlier in the season, why the heck wouldnt you use it?! Our O was passable with a weapon like Brad Smith to give Sanchez a chance to sulk it out on the sidelines for a series or so. I dont want Tebow to start over Sanchez, but dang it if we are gonna give draft picks (that could have value if we could evaluate talent) then we might as well use what we got for tossing away those picks. but cutting him would just put us farther back… i dont see the logic in cutting him loose now.

  25. By Arte Olde School Section 327 on Nov 4, 2012 | Reply

    Had to eat some serious CROW last Sunday night when I called my old friend Nick Cinque a long-time DOLFAN who I had taken to MANY of the EXCITING New York-Miami games of the PAST. Did I say PAST?? I told him I’m jumping on the bandwagon NOW! WHy you might ask (even though i don’t realistically think I can stay on it)? As soon as we do ANYTHING I’ll be back rooting for our beloved J-E-T-S! BUT in the meanwhile I have to say LOOK at what’s happening! The Dolphins have past us AND I guarantee they are going to beat NE if not win this year’s Division than next year for sure. Miami brought in Philbin & Sherman who built the Packers into a Winners! They’re NOT rebuilding! THEY’RE WINNING NOW! PLUS DRAFT PICKS TO BOOT! IT’S CALLED FOOTBALL MGMT!!!

  26. By GaryC on Nov 4, 2012 | Reply

    charliejet,thank you for the anointment of defensive coordinator,I would bring in the Mangenius as my surrogate,and trade tannenbaum and pettine for Dick Lebeau,and go to a 4 3 because we do not have the speed of our linebackers to get to the quarterback anyway,so put more bigger bodies upfront to at least stop the run.

  27. By Charliejet on Nov 4, 2012 | Reply

    Reading these posts, that storm sure did put things in perspective…

  28. By carl on Nov 4, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Randy, what do u think the Jets need to do to right the ship ? The season is not lost! Not yet at least! What can provide a spark? Any thoughts out there ? Jets have to find something quick, Tebow? Nothing seems to be workin! Its not to late! remember the giants last year ? Its the team with the hot hand into playoffs! Rex its your biggest job of your coaching career! There is a reason that your a head coach! Prove it!!!! Go Jets!!!!!!!!!

  29. By scjoe on Nov 4, 2012 | Reply

    Arte 327, agree on Miami, in fact I made the point here, BEFORE the Dolphin game that they will be in a dog fight with NE for the division, with the loser becoming a WC team. Look at Miami’s upcoming schedule and it will tell you all you need to know.

  30. By Frank on Nov 4, 2012 | Reply

    Rex/Sanckize-Not record in the last 11 games….3-8 and losing by 16 points per game. Anyone defending this garbage is nuts.

  31. By BleeedinGreeninPA on Nov 4, 2012 | Reply

    Can I ask who is Sanchez supposed to throw 2???? Which wideout do we have on this team that scares anyone???? Running game??? Where is it, got 2 good games against poor D in the case of the Bills, and Colts. We flat out dont have the talent anymore……Hope to get some soon….Tebow is NOT the answer

  32. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Nov 4, 2012 | Reply

    You’re not really rooting for the Jets, Arte, you’re just acknowledging that even one of the worst teams in the league can turn itself around faster than we can. Hey GaryC, not a big vote of confidence for McCourty up in NE, eh?

  33. By MIKE on Nov 4, 2012 | Reply

    The way I look at it is the Jets have beaten the teams they are supposed o beat and lost to the teams they should of lost to. Miami i a much better team then giving credit for. SF, Houston, Pitt and NE are all teams that are better than the Jets. And Buffalo and Indy are beatable teams. There schedule is soft from now on and it wouldn’t surprise me if they did make a run and have a chance at the end of the season of getting in to the playoffs. Sad thing is, or not so sad, they are a 500 team and will not get a top 10 pick once again.

    DO NOT take a RB or QB in first round. OL and DL pass rusher every year equals success.

  34. By GaryC on Nov 4, 2012 | Reply

    to the jet big mouth players,the colts did not care to wake up a sleeping giant and bad mouth the dolphins and it showed that they are an average team when not provoked,maybe one day we will live and learn,but I doubt it.

  35. By walt on Nov 5, 2012 | Reply

    In my opinion the Jets do not need an infuson of talent because I think that they have much more than is needed to get the job done.What they need to do is can the attitude of Joe Mcknight and Mangold and distribute it to their teammates.When they asked theses two warriors if they thought they would be ready to play against the Patriots after sustaining injuries in the previous game they replied without hesitation that they were going to play.Both these players played in the Patriiots game even though they were not exactly 100 percent and played quite well I might add perhaps better than than some of their teamates who were 100 percent.

  36. By Robert Riordan on Nov 5, 2012 | Reply

    Look Rex has had his time to build this team into a Super Bowl contention team. It has not worked. It is time to clean house Woody. You hire a guy like Sparano to run the offensive. The only thing he can run is to the food table. GET RID OF HIM. He did nothing with the Dolphins and He is DOING NOTHING WITH US. WOODY WAKE UP. Rebuild from management on down of PLEASE SELL THE TEAM to someone who knows what they are doing and cares.

  37. By GaryC on Nov 5, 2012 | Reply

    jetfantom,mccourty is average at best,but still better then wilson,no,I would still seek someone a little more physical as a corner.

  38. By GaryC on Nov 5, 2012 | Reply

    Look at the steelers,they had all the calls go against them against Giants and still come back and win with their third string back,Rex can only dream that he has a team with that mental makeup.

  39. By SCfromNY on Nov 5, 2012 | Reply

    So the Colts have Manning for 13 years and now they have Luck. While early to project Luck as a winner he sure looks like one. We get Sanchez. Is this fair???

    Watched the Giants lose. BUT, over the last 3 games it was evident that when a Giant player goes down they have the quality backups. Their starting safety goes down and a traveled Stevie Brown comes in and leads the NFL safeties in picks, has fumble recoveries, QB sacks, and all around has played great. Why can’t the Jets EVER get a surprise player? Player assesment from the scouts up to Tanny must be horrible.

  40. By SCfromNY on Nov 5, 2012 | Reply

    Sean Payton will be available next year. I would bet that he would not resign with the Saints for the right offer. Instead of paying big bucks for aging star QBs, old RBs, and other team castoffs give Payton an offer he can not refuse. Plus his salery will not count against the cap. There is always a debate about if coaches can impact the quality of play. look at Payton, Tomlin, the Harbaughs, Coughlin. and Belicik and their success rate. You are what your record says you are.

  41. By Mike Jet Vet on Nov 5, 2012 | Reply

    Andre Brown Giants, Doug Martin Tampa Bay, to name a few, Why can’t Jet scouts dig these types out, Scouts not doing their Job, been on our scouts before Draft.. this is why I say Mike -T and company are asleep at the wheel… Few points I’d like to make ,I’m down on Sanchez, my reason, he isn’t a top flight QB, ,bu, kid is a tough kid takes his lumps like a man. these sideline expressions your seeing are more confusion than sulking,He no wuss.. Rex I believe is losing his edge for loyalty he isn’t receiving back on the field, by players and coaches , I also believe D-Petine isn’t doing such a great Job, T-Sparano I can’t really say for sure . all I know he was fired for lack of production and so far it shows .

  42. By JetBlue on Nov 5, 2012 | Reply

    According to Rex, the Jets season so far amounts to this: Sometimes we play well, sometimes we don’t. Wow! No intelligent analysis for why his team is so inconsistent. No strategic plan for how his team will play better and win. Just an admission that once again, “we need to play better”. Yeah, we know Rex.
    Thanks for giving us hope. If I had a manager working for me who couldn’t motivate his employees to perform at a high level, or refused to replace the under-performers (MS, et al) with hungry employees waiting in the wings to show what they can do, I’d fire said manager on the spot. We’re so sick of hearing the same words come out of Rex’s mouth! Why are we forsaken?

  43. By scjoe on Nov 5, 2012 | Reply

    Logically speaking, by looking at the schedule, the Jets have a legitimate shot at making the playoff’s even at 8-8. That is not an endorsement for them, just a statement about the competitive balance in the league. That said, if they do get in at 8-8 all signs point to a one and done because they just don’t have the horses to finish the race. Which brings me to my next point, a HC in this league is as good as he personnel. It is quite apparent the NY Jets do not have great personnel. Lets start spreading the blame around.

  44. By russ on Nov 5, 2012 | Reply

    Cowboys and Jets both mentally weak on the field…

  45. By kleckofan on Nov 5, 2012 | Reply

    To me “inconsistency” means poor coaching. And that’s what Randy’s article screams the loudest. SCNY- I’d take Sean Payton, though I have a little problem w his “the rules don’t apply to me” attitude which our friend in Foxboro seems to share. Even before Bountygate I had a suspicion he was somehow dirty, very smug; just my gut. My vote is still Gruden for his knowledge and toughness. I think Cowher is a brighter Rex, still prefers Ground&Pound, which won’t work in this century.
    Spice- hang in there my friend. I spent many a good time in Manasquan and Belmar watching Karch Kiraly! Very sad.
    Nervous about tomorrow, keeping the status quo would be like spending next season w Tanny, Sanchez, Scott and Greene again. A hellish deja vu

  46. By Charliejet on Nov 5, 2012 | Reply

    GaryC, Tom 64 – YOUR HIRED!

  47. By GaryC on Nov 5, 2012 | Reply

    Instead of worrying about bizarro scenarios for the jets to get to playoffs,why not just think of these three,stop the run,rush the passer,and have a consistent ground game,then you wouldn’t need to worry if these eight teams lose five of their next six and the jets win five of their next six and then we have the point differential and better conference record and so on and so on.In Jetland it is always about the other teams losing then the jets winning.

  48. By scjoe on Nov 5, 2012 | Reply

    Andrew Luck in his 8th pro start did what Mark Sanchez has not even come close to in his 4th full season, pass for more then 400 yards, and against a very stout Miami defense besides. What is most impressive about that stat is the fact it ended with a win, not garbage time stats in a blowout loss.

  49. By ELI RODRIGUEZ AKA (RUSS BALL 4 GM) on Nov 6, 2012 | Reply

    Well after tonight, we’ll have our team owner undivided attention. I hope Mr. Johnson notice the condition our team is in and realize fresh blood and new ideas are needed. Mr. T(errible) thank you for your service, we gave you 4 yrs (plus) and look at us, we’re worse off than when we started. (YEAH-YEAH–I know 2 AFC TITTLE, about that– not your or Rex doing) Mr. Ryan contrary to popular believe your kids are not your friends. Mr. Westhoff great job–we all have a bad day. People, treat your job like it’s your last, cause it just might be. Lets keep anyone of value base on performance and dump the rest. IMO!

  50. By JetBlue on Nov 6, 2012 | Reply

    Sean Payton was a Parcells guy. He helped Brees become Brees and brought N.O. a Super Bowl. But if he were to opt out and move on, it would probably be to Dallas, where he lives and is still covented by J Jones.
    8-8 this year, even if it got us into a wild-card spot would still be a failure. I’d rather be 1-15 and get a shot at better draft picks. As SCNY points out, the Colts follow-up the career of Payton with the start of the Luck era. When was the last time the Jets drafted a marqui QB? Probably Ken O’Brien who never got the credit he deserved. Joe Namath & Ken O’Brien. That’s it for elite Jet QBs. Talent wise, Sanchez is really no better than Richard Todd, Browning Nagle or Glenn Foley. Time to move on. Dress McElroy!

  51. By Joe on Nov 9, 2012 | Reply

    I live on the JERSEY SHORE SHORE (SEA BRIGHT AREA )NEXT STORE to Jim Garett whose son coaches the Cowboys .The only thing in worse shape than the JERSEY SHORE is the NY JETS .I dont care WHO THEY BRING IN TO COACH BECAUSE WITHOUT PLAYER TALENT ITS IRREVELANT .People there no qb here WITHOUT AN ELITE QB WE GOT NO SHOT AT THE SB NO MATTER THE COACH Every single ELITE COACH MENTIONED HAD A DIRECT OF PLAYER PERSONAL THAT GAVE THAT COACH AN ELITE QB EVERY ONE .

  52. By Mike Colern on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    The same people criticizing Tebow as a terrible quarterback are the ones who couldn’t stop him when he played against them for Denver last year and cost them a playoff spot. Cromartie should shut up and try to learn his kids names instead of criticizing Tebow. This is what Woody gets for bringing in people with questionable and no character. You wanted the headlines Woody, now you have them. Like Woody said he’s in the entertainment business. He should sell the team to somebody who is in the football business and take hius PSL’s with him. Another biliionaire sticking it to the average fan. Like Woody needs to collect Jets fans money on the PSL’s and get the the interest on their money.

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