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Jets-Seahawks: First-Half Tweets

Posted by Randy Lange on November 11, 2012 – 5:49 pm

Here are today’s first-half tweets for Jets-Seahawks at CenturyLink Field, in case you missed them on Twitter. Follow Bob Wischusen, Eric Allen and me for our tweets during each Jets game on https://twitter.com/nyjets.

#RL Today’s Jets gameday captains: QB Mark Sanchez, S Eric Smith, CB Isaiah Trufant, LB Ricky Sapp, WR Jason Hill.

#RL Last 3 games Jets won the opening toss, chose to receive were in ’11–JAX, MIA, KC. Jets won all 3 games.

#RL Tim Tebow pass to Jeremy Kerley for 1 yard. Tebow now 3-for-4 passing on the season.

Takeoff #NYJvsSEA (Presented by Toyota - http://bit.ly/UrkzEg )pic.twitter.com/LLYtlBgk

#RL Lex Hilliard stopped on 3rd-and-1 carry. First time Jets have not converted 3rd-and-1 rush this season.

#RL Russell Wilson to WR Golden Tate for 38-yd TD over Kyle Wilson. SEA rookie has 10 TD passes (0 INTs) in 5 games at CenturyLink Field.

#RL Before that TD, Jets had scored first in 8 of the previous 9 games vs. Seahawks (7-2), and in the previous 5 games @ SEA (3-2)

#RL Leon Washington’s first touch vs. his former team is a 20-yd punt return to SEA 40.

#EA Jets are going to continue to try to knock that ball loose from Marshawn Lynch. Lankster got in there with some pressure on 3rd down.

#RL RB Bilal Powell’s first touch in 3 games goes for 7 yards on a second-down draw.


#RL Bart Scott gets his 1st sack since Game 14 @ PHI last year, taking down Wilson for 12-yd loss. …

#RL Mo Wilkerson 21-yd FUM-return TD off Mike DeVito stripsack ties it at 7. Jets’ first defensive FR TD since Marques Douglas @ IND in 09.

#RL Jets CB Isaiah Trufant has a knee injury. His return to this game is questionable.

#EA 7-7 at CenturyLink Field. 1st career TD for Mo Wilkerson. That was Bart’s first sack of the year on the last series.

#EA Fumble recovery by the Jets. They got the ball out from Lynch. That’s 2 takeaways now. Looks like C. Pace has it.

#RL Mo Wilkerson forces Marshawn Lynch FUM, Calvin Pace recovers. Seahawks have as many giveaways in this game (2) as in first 4 home games.

#EA That’s Pace’s 1 Fumble Recovery of the season and 10th of his career.

#RL Jeremy Kerley’s 43-yd completion from Mark Sanchez to SEA-7 gives JK 4 catches for 55 yds today.

#EA Jets breaking tendencies today. They go back-to-back with 15 carries to get the 1st and now are in business after 6 goes to 11 for 43.

#RL Mark Sanchez tries to find Dustin Keller in EZ, throws his 4th red zone INT this season to CB Richard Sherman, who steps OB at SEA-2.

#EA That’s Sanchez’s 4th Red Zone INT of the season. He threw across the field to Keller, but Browner intercepted.

#RL Ellis Lankster strip-sack of Russell Wilson was Lankster’s first career sack. Jets have ball at midfield.

#EA Wilson is rattled. Lankster comes untouched and gets the strip-sack. Ricky Sapp almost had it, but the ‘Hawks recovered.

#EA Jets D in 1.5 quarters: 3 sacks, 2 takeaways, 1 TD.

#RL Jets third 3-and-out series this game. Robert Malone’s nifty drop punt forces Leon Washington to fair-catch it at SEA-10.

#RL Antonio Cromartie, who leads Jets in INTs (3), pass defenses (10), gets a big PD in end zone on Wilson fleaflicker pass to Sidney Rice.

#EA Now we’re even in the turnover department as Jeremy Kerley can’t field the punt. SEA ball at the NYJ 42.

#EA Seattle takes the 13-7 lead as they capitalize after the turnover. Lynch got in from 1-yard out. They are reviewing the play though.

#RL Seattle leads 14-7. The ‘Hawks’ 7-point lead is their largest first-half lead over the Jets at home since 1979, a span of 6 games.

#EA Call upheld. Jets now trail 14-7. 2-Minute warning. ‘Hawks will get the ball to start the 3rd. Jets have 2 TOs and ball at own 21.

#EA B. Powell slow to get up after that punt. SEA has ball at their 43 with 1:19 on the clock.


#RL Seahawks lead 14-7 at halftime and also lead in yards (134-112), 1st downs (8-5), possession (15:25-14:35). Teams tied in turnovers 2-2.

Posted in Randy Lange | 211 Comments »

211 Responses to “Jets-Seahawks: First-Half Tweets”

  1. By Nysfinest89 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    How can Rex argue Sanchez gives them the best opportunity to win when all they do with him under center is everything But WIN!!! Stop being so stubborn and wake up before he cost you your job!

  2. By Joe on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    ALL last offseason i predicted -warned ALL THE JET DREAMERS LIVING IN A FANTASYLAND OF SB VICTORYS TO COME THAT THIS TEAM -WAS GOING TO BE BAD and i have to admit i was WRONG INFACT THIS TEAM IS NOT BAD ITS TERRIBLE . After yet another BLOW OUT loss to a ROOKIE QB we are a DAN CARPENTER CHIP SHOT FG from a 2 win team .Rex how you making out on YOUR SUPER BOWL VICYORY PREDICTION

  3. By Joe on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply


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  5. By Bennett on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    I have been highly critical of the Jets and most particulary of Sanchez in the past on this site. I take no joy in the season. There is no satisfaction. I hoped I would be proven wrong. I said if the season goes like I anticipated the blame will fall almost soley on T-baum. To extend Sanchez after the preformance of last season was probably one of the most inexplicable mistakes I have ever seen.To not have a viable #2 in place and ready to move into the starter postion is beyond any rational thought process. Spicer you are a man to admit you were wrong., I wish you were right.T-baum will go down and he will take alot of good people with him. Time to clean house top to bottom. Rebuild. Once again.

  6. By MIKE on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    How much more of a sub par QB play can Rex take. Don’t need to explain how bad MS played, we all saw that. On the bright side, Mo Wilkerson looked like a All Pro today and Davis looks like he belongs as a starter.

  7. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom in 10 Words or So on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    No QB, RBs, O = no future with Sanchez, Rex, Mr T.

  8. By jetken on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    What a joke this team is.Rex Ryan should be fired just for considering to play Mark Sanchez for 1 more game. This team is despicable. This is almost as bad as the election results. I don’t have one good thing to say,except goodnight.

  9. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    The way I see it. The Jets have no offense and a partial defense. Sparano, Rex and Mark will end up with a losing season. But lets look at the bright side, there is always next year.

  10. By Karan on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Eh, I give up. Looking forward to next season already, in fact can’t wait till the offseason, too many issues on this team, just gets painful to watch as the weeks pass. All I want to say is shame on this Jets front office and most of all, shame on GM Mike T and Owner Woody Johnson.

  11. By scjoe on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Well, what’s left to say? Another Sunday, another pathetic performance by the offense, another typical mark Sanchez day (less then 50% competition percentage, an INT and a fumble), another loss, and another pathetic press conference. I can hear it now, in one of Rex’s weekday pressers, “Mark gives us the best chance to win” sad, sad, sad! The Tebow debacle has officially turned out to be stand up comedy in every sense of the term. How a pro organization can continue on with this charade, is way over MY head. Mr Johnson, clean off those glasses, look beyond your nose, and put an end to this misery.

  12. By scjoe on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    In Rex’s post game presser he stated that “there is no quit in these players” well, judging from that tackling display in the 2nd half you could have fooled me. And of course, re” Sanchez clarification on the fumble, “THE-BALL-WAS-WET”… OH, OK, that explains it all, sorry I ever doubted you Mark!

  13. By chris long time jet fan on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    ground hog day again

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  15. By kk on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry Rex but sticking with Sanchez is going to cost you your job. The game wasn’t on where I was this weekend andcwhen I saw the Sachez stat 1 int and 1 fumble I told myself I bet the int was in the redzone IT WAS and I bet the fumble was him being sacked and doing his usual idiotic routine and try and throw it.
    It’s 4 years now and he still makes the same mistakes every week. Time to cut bait he has no instincts and can’t see the field sorry but he stinks. Please give anyone a shot this is a tiresome act, every week the same nonsense. Enough slready the Jets are a laughingstock and the fans don’t deserve this crappy play.

  16. By SCfromNY on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Cont. . . . But the O probably could not beat a HS team. How long can this team stick with losing QBs? The Jets have bcome laughable. There are statiscally worse teams but those teams are making changes while the Jets mantra of,” We must correct our mistakes, We can have to play better, We will look at the films and fix it, I beleive in this team.’” It can only be a matter of time before the lockeroom falls apart. The few players who have stepped up and those playing their hearts out will see managements refusal to make changes and stubbornly stick with poor performers as the hieght of imcompetence and give up. No free agents will want to sign here or play for a team that is embarrassing.

  17. By Eli Rodriguez AKA (RUSS BALL 4 GM) on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    “Told you it wasn’t my fault”

    -Brian Shottenheimer

  18. By Eli Rodriguez AKA (RUSS BALL 4 GM) on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    “…only one offensive touchdown in their last eight quarters.”
    I remember in the preseason when the NYJETS were so inept & who got them the first touchdown—————you’re right G-MAC!

  19. By Allan O'Dane on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    When is this insanity going to stop?!? I can’t believe Ryan’s comment on sanchez..” I believe he still gives us the best chance to win!?!?” are you kidding me Rex Ryan?! The defense kept the NYJ in this game for 3 qtrs. but you knew sooner or later they were going to tire out after Sanchez and the O’s 3 and outs…Mark’s fumble and INT.. And what makes it worse is that I am sure 90% of jet fans knew mark was going to throw that INT in the redzone. This guy is the worst QB since Nagle!..Rex mark is your guy? well get ready to go down with him because this ship is sinking FAST!..

  20. By texas clamp on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    dear woody johnson,
    I’m a seasonal ticket holder and life long jet fan.
    this was not a professional football offense i watched in seattle.
    do i really want to take hard earned money and spend my thanksgiving at met life stadium? i don’t think so.

  21. By THUNDER LIPS on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    DISGUSTING! I have finally lost all respect for Rex. I’m not sure how much of it is his doing but he is part of it. THis whole sanchez coddling is ridiculous. Jets are not a football team, they are a struggling business trying to spin a string of really bad investments to their shareholders.

  22. By GaryC on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    woody can just change everything on jets by going to the espn stations and other television outlets,Casserly,Gruden,Billick,Mangini,Dennis Green,and can somebody go to the witness protection bureau and find out where Jim Fassel is.There are just too many good coaches out there to see this garbage go on.

  23. By Eli Rodriguez AKA (RUSS BALL 4 GM) on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply


  24. By kenny on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    same old jets. Time to clean house. Hire Gruden please fire the GM.

  25. By Lonnie Looper on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    I have silently read these comments for at least 3 years now and although I always wanted to post something, I refrained. I can not take this nonsense anymore and I can no longer contain my silence. My thoughts can best be described by quoting the great Albert Einstein:

    “Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

    Rex Ryan… you are in fact INSANE.

  26. By GaryC on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Come next Thursday there will be more Turkeys on the field then on the kitchen tables.

  27. By ron alexander on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    IRA, Sorry dude, but there is no way even you can spin anything positive out of this game! I was very concerned going into this game because we were so bad vs. miami. This however turned out to be a winnable game. To their credit, the D stepped up and played well in the first half. The 2nd half was another story all together! The most glaring problem was the Offence was offensive! M.S. may someday torn out to be a decent NFL Q.B. But that day was not yesterday and I see no way it happans as a Jet! S.C.Joe, when you review the tape(if you can stomach it?) pay attention to how many times C.Pace gets fooled by the same play as rookie Q.B runs around him at least 5 times.Pathetic.And all you fans of McIntyre,please forget him, he was as bad

  28. By THUNDER LIPS on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Either the Sanchez era is over or the THUNDER LIPS era is over. Im not want to ever give up on my team becuase they are losing (i’m a mets fan too), but here it so blatantly obvious that it is they who have given up. not the players but the organization.

  29. By Allan O'Dane on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    I am sure Schotty is saying “Welcome to my world” with Mark Sanchez. Maybe it wasn’t schotty’s fault after all? Maybe he was dealing with a career back QB and couldn’t do anymore. Sanchez continues to make the same mistakes over and over again. It time play the G-Mac..At least if he makes mistakes he has an excuse, Someone needs to hide Marks helmet during games…PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

  30. By Tom Spicer on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    This is beyond embarssing SAME OLD JETS!

  31. By Allan O'Dane on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Mark Sanchez was awful on throws five or fewer yards downfield again Sunday, completing 5-of-11 passes for 28 yards. Sanchez’s 53.2 completion percentage on such throws is the worst in the NFL among qualified passers. –quoted from ESPN

  32. By Tom Spicer on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Some guys get to watch there team in February (never EVER if you are a Jet fan). Some guys get to watch there team in January (about 1 time every 5 years if you are a Jet fan). Some guys teams are out if it in December (but at least they put up a fight & gave you a decent season). Jet fans have nothing to watch in November & IT IS NOT EVEN MID NOVEMBER! Only 4 teams since 1970 have made the playoffs after being 3 & 6. So stop with the playoff talk Rex IT IS OVER!

  33. By Tom Spicer on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    I thought that Mark would get better over time but he simply has not. He makes the same EXACT mistakes he made as a rookie & has shown no improvement at all. If anything he has lost what little confidence he had. Dont get me wrong it is not all on him from MR.T’S lack of surronding him with weapons, to the joke of the o line we had last year & finally the PSL’S selling Tebow trade to where we are now. We have to move on. We would have to get a Holmes back, a great WR & a great RB just for this guy to be functional at this point. We need a QB who can make the guys around him better & he is not it!

  34. By Tom Spicer on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Besides Kerley, Wilkerson & Coples I really have nothing good to say about anyone on this team. These 3 guys went to play everyone else I dont know what it is that they were doing. P.S. Wilson it is official a 1st round bust. Also what was Austin Howard what was he doing? I saw at least 2 plays where he ignored the outside rusher & let the guys get a free run at the QB!

  35. By Tom Spicer on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    There is a article on nyjetscap.com that I want you all to read its called “Is 2013 salary cap making the 2012 decisions for the Jets” It bascially says that if Tebow plays a certain number of plays his contract calls for him to make $10,000,000 guarenteed next year. It says thats why no matter what this year Mark Sanchez is the guy. It says if they make Tebow the starter next year they will have $30,000,000 in guarenteed contracts for next year in just 3 players Holmes, Sanchez & Tebow. To make matters even worse 2 of these 3 guys both play QB & both of them are bad at it LOL only the Jets!

  36. By Tom Spicer on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    As of right now the Jets are picking anywhere from 5 to 9 if the draft were to happen today. Does ANY Jet fan honestly think MR.T is smart enough to trade Tebow & Sanchez then draft a franchise QB with that pick? I would bet if we took a survey the answer would be 100% NO. I think I have a better shot of winning the lotto then of that happening. I dont think I will live long enough to see the Jets win a Super Bowl!

  37. By kleckofan on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    GaryC- Fassel is in LasVegas, he was coaching in the league that Isiah Trufant came from. He also invested heavily in the league which has now gone defunct; so he is available. Not sure he’s the guy or that I’d wish this team on anyone.
    On the positive side, I didn’t waste a couple hundred bucks travelling to Seattle to see that debacle yesterday (I know, selfish). That red zone pick is Sanchez in a nutshell: receiver is open, doesn’t throw it, looks elsewhere, happy feet, looks again, pumps AT THE PLAYER HE WILL THROW TO, then throws late and is picked. Didn’t you think the fake throw to the target was going to draw attention?
    If MS is our best QB, then McElroy must be a different guy then the one who won the Nat’l Championship at Bama

  38. By kleckofan on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    If this team (Woody Johnson) does not make a radical change soon this franchise will be set back further and further. No FA’s will come, no coaches will come and work for a clueless owner and GM. Ira and Mr. Costello:How do you feel about playoff scenarios now? That bad game that Seattle was due to have? Sorry, but optimism need not be delusional. We are the worst team in the league when one considers long term success. At least the teams like Jax are finding young talent or finding out if there is a lack of talent. We continue to define Albert einstein’s definition of insanity: doing the same thing again and again while expecting a different result. Ludicrous. Sanchez should be embarrassed that he makes millions.

  39. By MIKE on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Rex and Sparano are trying to make MS a pocket passer. Problem is MS has average arm strength, below average accuracy and what appears to be, zero football sense. Another problem would be the fact that he doesn’t have the allusiveness that Russell Wilson has. Would love to see the Jets take a QB in 2nd or 3rd round next year. Someone that can takeoff and run if nothing is there.

    TT isn’t the answer either , at least not how the Jets use him. At least give TT a couple of series.

    The Jets should do the opposite of what they do. Instead of using TT on short yardage only, use MS on 3rd and long only.

  40. By Tom Spicer on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    I got this off of Rotoworld “Coach Rex Ryan told reporters following Sunday’s embarrassing, 28-7 loss to the Seahawks that Mark Sanchez remains the Jets’ starting quarterback. The Jets’ offense didn’t even score a point against Seattle & Sanchez is 3-9 in his last 12 starts, dating back to last season. He isn’t the long-term answer, but neither is Tim Tebow. So the Jets will stick with Sanchez because they guaranteed him $20.5 million in an offseason contract “extension.” Barring an unforeseen and dramatic turnaround, Ryan’s fate as Jets head coach may rest squarely on Sanchez’s shoulders.” I have been trying to tell you guys they owe him so much money they have to play him!

  41. By Joe from PA on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Right now I’m sorry I’ve been a ticket holder for so long. Offense is totally awful–not just MS. The few passes he throws well get dropped anyway. 2 weeks off to prepare and this is the best we can do? The only things woody can do to make us all feel better is fire Mr. T and blow it all up-yet again-and start over—or better yet have Woody sell to someone who understands football and wants to have a winning team, not a back page circus. very, very disappointing, but not surprised. they didn’t have much offensive talent to start with and they did not surround MS—or whoever is QB with any real talent anyway–then throw in the tebow mess—he should have gone to Jacksonville. Yup I think G-Mac deserves the reps the rest of the year.

  42. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    I was of the first to comment on Sparano being named as an offense coach. There is “NO” question in my mind that when Sparano was brought in as OC we were in trouble. He couldn’t win with Miami. Now Rex, Sparano and the rest of the coaches are saying, we will turn it around, I guess they live in fairy land. WOODY, make changes, pay either “Gruden or Cower” to come in and fix this team. Get rid of MS, TT, Sparano, Rex and the rest of these coaches. The way you took control in the erlections how about taking control of the Jets once and for all.

  43. By steven on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    The Jets have some potential stars they don’t even use in their games. Hayden is a potential star at TE and McElroy is a potential star at QB. Nobody will stop Hayden when he catches the ball. HMcElroy can lead and he’s a winner. Just give him a chance. He won’t do any worse than Sanchez. McElroy won the national championship with Alabama and you don’t even use him. I’ve been a Jets fam since 1981 and now it’s over. It’s not even fun to watch the Jets. Hasn’t been fun for decades. SOJ. the most mediocre team in the history of the NFL. I hope you lose every game this year so you can get a good draft next year. You keep drafting mediocre guys and you have a mediocre team. I might come back if you let McElroy play but for now so long NY Jets.

  44. By Byrdman on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Watch the replay where Sherman picks off Sanchez’ weak late throw across the field to Keller – Stephen Hill is WIDE OPEN waving his arms under the goal-post. Mark had a clear passing lane over the middle to Hill – Any other NFL QB throws a TD on that play – Blaine Gabbert hits Hill for that TD. I knew the game was over after that pick. The first half play by the D was nice but, Pace, Thomas and Scott run out of gas as the game goes on. Knew Carroll would make the adjustments needed to take advantage of these old dinosaurs. Rookie Wilson looks confident, polished, athletic and more like a franchise QB than ANY rookie QB Jets ever had – he’s clearly better than 4th year starter Sanchez already – Sums up your scouting dept right there!

  45. By Stevesc on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t know what to say than what everyone here has said already… I’ve gotten to the point where I don’t get upset anymore watching these games. Why? Because I already know what is going to take place. I knew the Jets were going to get blown out yesterday and they didn’t disappoint. MS has gotten progressively worse, and it’s sad to see. I think at this point his confidence is shot, adding to his already poor play. For Rex to say he gives this team the best shot to win is ridiculous. It is time for him to be benched. Any other coach in the league would have done it by now in the same situation. We know TT may not be the answer, but it might be more entertaining watching him play. I give him a lot of credit as to the way he has

  46. By Stevesc on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    (cont’d) handled his situation here. Sending him in for one play and then taking him out has to be very frustrating for a player. He handles it with class and doesn’t gripe about playing time. I would love to see GMac get some playing time instead of standing on the sidelines in civies with a clipboard in his hands. Now would be a good time to see what he can do. There are no playoffs for this team this year because they will finish under .500.

  47. By Christopher on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Nobody seemed to mention it, but on Sanchez’s pick…Hill was wide open in the back of the end zone. Instead of scrambling right and throwing to Keller (which I’m sure was the play call), if he stepped up in the pocket he would have found a wide open Hill for a TD. I believe any other QB in the league would have made that play. I tried to stay positive and support Sanchez, but enough already. Give Tebow his shot, I doubt he can do much better, but I know he cannot do any worse. I would rather they gave McElroy a shot, but no way that will happen; admit they were wrong on both Sanchez and Tebow, they would rather go 3-13 which is where they are heading. Rex is determined to go down with his sinking ship.

  48. By Another Tom on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    OK..so this year is a disaster for many reasons..lack of talent..poor coaching…injuries…but somehow, PLEASE , WE have to turn this around. We’ve all been through dreadful long stretches of losing seasons ..and we dont want to go down that road again. It seems to me that the Jets started to re gress a couple years ago when we arrogantly released Faneca. To me that was the beginning to the end…

  49. By Joe on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    From what i understand THERE WILL BE BIG CAP PROBLEMS (MUCH LIKE S HOLMES )IN GETTING RID OF SANCHEZ(and they just gave him an extension ) .Rexs problem (besides the cap )is he must now to to WOODY and tell him that SANCHEZ WAS A WASTED PICK ECT .(INTURN THE 75 MILLION THE JETS SPENT ON HIM WAS A WASTE .The 4 years of DEVELOPMENT TIME WAS A WASTE ECT ECT SAME OLD JETS IT NEVER CHANGES .Rex hate to see you go (LOL )).By the way WHERE ARE ALL THOSE SUPER BOWL VICTORYS YOU GUANTEED -PROMISED US

  50. By Frank on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    No surprises here I predicted this last week. Jamarcus Sanchez these days always being compared to the “worst” numbers by a QB over the last 4 years. Classic Sanchez he had Hill WIDE OPEN in the back of the end zone and so was Keller and he throws the pick.
    Rex/Sanchize-Not now 3-9 over the last 12 games.
    There is no doubt Rex wanted the financial committment that was incredibly ididotic the team made to Sanchize-Not (7th highest paid QB…LOL) this past offseason and there is ZERO chance he will bench Sanchize-Not.
    Woody needs to put on his Jerry Jones and tell Rex to start Tebow otherwise why did they even bother bringing him here?
    Just as well Rex and Sanchez both need to go period end of story.

  51. By Joe on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply


  52. By GaryC on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    If Woody backed Romney and Romney said he could fix the economy then Woody should have no problem fixing the jets,THE APPLE SHOULDN’T FALL FAR FROM THE TREE.

  53. By Byrdman on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Notice how the Seahawks clowned our coaching staff with the Golden Tate option pass? After watching film of the Jets and hearing Rex blow hard about big changes in how they planned to use Tebow – I’m pretty sure Carroll probably had his team prepared for some wildcat passes in fact they proved to be better coached and prepped in one week than the two our Jets had. They roll out one wildcat style play BOOM… TOUCHDOWN. Where were all the big “changes” Rex talked about? It speaks volumes about our coaching staff when the Seahawks made the necessary halftime adjustments because their QB was taking some hits while our coaches halftime strategy made the Jets look baffled and bewildered. Just End This Season

  54. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    I caught that dig at Newton, GaryC, but I’ll take his upside potential over Sanchez’s. Hey punchdrunk, er, punchie, looks like your playoff predictions are about as wise as your political views. Spicer, this must be a tough moment for you, struggling for yrs as you did with MS’s stats. I admire your optimism but somewhere along the way you stopped watching the game on an instinctual level. Anyone who couldn’t see starting about a yr or so ago that MS just doesn’t have the calm, character, physical tools, pocket presence, and (as Arte’s always saying) PERIPHERAL VISION to ever be a great QB was just seeing what he wanted to see…kind of like folks who saw what they wanted to see on Election Day. Start all over, Woody, preferably in Queens.

  55. By scjoe on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Ron, what I saw from not only Pace, but from the Jets defense in general, is that their lack of speed on defense is being exposed more and more from week to week. Calvin Pace, to put it in laymans terms, is simply NOT a 3-4 OLB. What he is, and what he should be is a b/u DE in a 4-3. That said, I refuse to put the blame for this latest debacle on the D. No defense would endure being out there for almost 40 minutes per game. All those 3 and outs, lasting about 90 seconds were the reason this D melted down in the 4th quarter.

  56. By Mike Jet Vet on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply


  57. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    One thing is for sure, we are all on the same page when it comes MS, TT, Rex and Sparano. What is it going to take to get WOODY to open his eyes. I can not believe that an owner would allow himself to be embarrassed like this and not fix what is wrong with a team we all try and stand behind. If they lose there fans they lose revenue, if you lose revenue how do you bring good coaches and players in. WOODY we have a HC that made us the laughing stock of the NFL with his bragging, lousy insight and not benching MS. We can not finish 500 this season. Play all the young players and put MaClroy in…

  58. By kleckofan on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    I’m on the unfortunate Mets/Jets ride too. At least Aldorson is moving the Mets towards youth.
    All the DE’s bought the fake and got outflanked all day. Pitiful. Two wekks to prepare and you don’t know how much they use the waggle?
    Amen on Kyle Wilson, put him w Gholston and the rest.
    The number of players I’d keep is now down to about ten or twelve.
    Fire everyone in th FO, scouts, GM, position coaches etc
    Get Gruden and give him the keys to everything.

  59. By Byrdman on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer – I read that article about the salary cap, it makes a lot of sense. I recommend everyone here read ($$$) why they have been limiting Tebows snaps. Looks like the Jets are in Cap Hell next year and will end up paying dead weight players they would otherwise cut. Financially This whole franchise is in DEEP DARK TROUBLE – thanks to T-Bomb and the contracts he’s burdened them with. Just when I thought things couldn’t get any more depressing.

  60. By chris long time jet fan on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    sanchez is at the point where he take off more points than he put on the board for the season….its time to fire rex

  61. By SCfromNY on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Gruden YES! Forget Fassel and Cowher. Rex’s inability to admit he is playing a losing hand is simply unbeleivable. Staying with Stinkchez and thinking he gives us the best chance to win is foolish. half the time in the news conference Rex keeps his eyes down. He is ashamed. The constant comments that they are addressing everything is simply false. All Rex can say about Tebow is they are planning week to week depending on the team so they can surprise them. Well Tebow passing 3-3 for 8 yards and running 4-14 yards damn that’s awesome. We din’t even get any Sporano field goals. Win and loss wise we can still make tha playoffs BUT I think the only team we will beat is Jax. Players aren’t stupid. They know the staff in inept and going down.

  62. By chris long time jet fan on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    the only thing mark giver you every week you can count on is a interception and a fumble. he averages to turnovers per game since he been here..4yrs…and they give him an extension…im not a tim tebow guy but yesterday he got us 3 first downs otherwise we would of had i dont know but say 7-8-9 3 and outs…cant blame the defense for that they need help…..time for a boycott…against rrex and mark.. the team cant or they would i believe that

  63. By nytitan on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Play like a Jet?That’s about the last thing we need. Look at their history that’s exactly what they’re doing.I’m sure Schotty is licking his chops looking at this defense. Great trout fishing in the Sierras yesterday.

  64. By nytitan on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    How about play like a Steeler, Raven or dare I say a Patriot. Better yet how about a professional.

  65. By Mike Jet Vet on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer. nice try, give me a break, Money we own Sanchez was never an issue for you , you blamed everyone on the team, coaches, players, owner, not MS you gave him a pass right up till 2 weeks ago, you finally realized what Myself and many others have been explaining last 2 seasons,

  66. By Karan on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    This should have never happened. This is all your fault Mike Tannenbaun. At the end of 2010, we had a loaded roster, we were just a few pieces, like 2 or 3 away from being a legit super bowl team and even before then we were really good. They should have continued to built on that, but no, they did just the opposite which brings us to present day. This MESS that you guys see all falls only on Tannenbaum shoulders and the PSL-Tebow selling Owner.

  67. By scjoe on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer, speaking strictly for myself, re: MS, I hope you are at the point now where you can truly understand what I have been saying for 3 plus seasons now. Those two turnovers yesterday, which were both critical, were not only physical mistakes, they were both horrible decisions as well. That his been this players MO for the better part of 4 seasons now. If I thought for even one minute during that time that he has learned from those mistakes I would have given him the benefit of the doubt. But is obvious he has learned very little or nothing in his decision making. Now, if we can just get the “powers to be” no matter if that is WJ, Tbum or Rex to open their eyes, and their minds, we can move on.

  68. By scjoe on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Just to follow up on that post. I know as well as anyone that it is “not entirely” on MS. But two things come in to play, 1- He is the QB, which makes him the focal point of the offense, and the offense is just plain not getting the job done. 2-You know that old saying, “if you are not a part of the solution, you are a part of the problem” It applies here.

  69. By harry-o on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    if I’m not mistaken
    made it to red zone only once ( then MS threw the pick)
    and one more time out side the 30 ( MS fumble)

    the only two scoring chances the jets had all game?
    getting across mid field seemed impossible

    MS should be blamed for the loss they were his turn overs
    his play kept them from putting points on the board

    when you only have two chances to score make them count

  70. By TomK on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Sanchez- I used to like him a lot. Now I think I could play QB better. Bench him until he can be traded.

    Soprano-deserves to go for such an inept and predictable offense and play calling

    Tannenbaum- some pretty poor off-season work/lack of work and not the best draft talent evaluator.

    Rex- May be forced to go although I love him ; he is TOO loyal a players coach and can’t see how badly Mark Sancez really is

  71. By john sciandra on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    once again in the start of the game,we drive down the field only to have sanchez throw an int.Wow big suprise. I cringe when were in the red zone.We no the outcome, so does he,i like the helmit grab i was 8 yearls old to,about 45 yrs ago. Sanchez is a backup qtback at best need to draft a running back and a qb next year. i am a season ticket hoider (nfl and rex ryan has no backbone you no what imean what a disgrace they did to tebow if i was tebow i would punk him out,you people no what i mean ,trying to sell my tickets got a buck.What a dissgrace.OH by the way,where is a gm, whats his name oh iforgot havnt heard from him since his terrible drafts.Where are you woody johson, oh i forgot to worried about johnson and johnson stock,lol.

  72. By Christopher on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer…gl trading Sanchez unless we agree to pay his salary…and if we are paying him…he might as well carry some towels or something. Go get coach a gd snack. No team is going to trade for Sanchez.

  73. By JetBlue on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    Typical Rex Press Conference: “Y’know, uhh, obviuosly…blah blah blah……we have to correct our mistakes……yada yada yada………I believe in Mark….blah blah bla…..y’know, uhh, obviously, this team wants to win.”
    Really Rex? PLEASE!!!! Stop already! Enough! Maybe the sports writers have to tone down the criticism because their ability to earn a living depends on how they report your comments and the performance of this team. But us fans, we don ‘t have to be so accomodating. If you truly believe the things that you say, than you are more out of touch than those photogs prancing around the wilderness in search of Big Foot. We all know there is no Big Foot, Rex. He was eaten by the Loch Ness Monster back in January 1969

  74. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    JOE… I like your insight on MS, in fact I feel just about everyone in here is on the same page when it comes to MS. I believe that his contract is based on performance and his performance as a QB is the worst in the league for the past several years. It would surprize me if he did not get intercepted this week against another “YOUNG TEAM” rebuilding with draft picks such as the RAMS are doing. If all notice Mr. Luck for Indie is winning games they are out playing all but Houston and the Ravens. Payton Manning has Denver in 1st place. Was a great move for both teams. As for us, the Jets coaches like old players instead of good draft picks and we do get a good draft pick he is on the bench. Time to reverse that and put the young

  75. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    (continued) players in start MAC at QB and prepare for next year. WOODY get rid of Sparano, Rex and the rest of the coaching staff. Reach in your pocket and grab “GRUDEN of COWER”…

  76. By chris long time jet fan on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    this is not tim tebow fault … its rexs fault mark is terrible…the team is good…mark is the weak link and has been for quit some time…but cause rex is stubborn .. tim tebow contract or not we have mcelroy…fire rex…its a easy fix…mark is done..

  77. By SCfromNY on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    The cost of our 3 QBs is $$$$. This is what it costs to carry 3 QBs and we have a losing record and embarassing offense. If we start McElroy to give him a chance to show what he can do it will cost us the same $$$$. We are not losing money by sitting Stinkchez the cost is identical. I am not ready to anoint McElroy as the next Montana. I do think it would be a good idea to find out before we release him and he is a major success for another team. 9-22, one interception, and one fumble along witha childish sulking attitude. Can we do worse?

  78. By Mike Jet Vet on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer, Does make a point, our Cap next year figures to make next season potently worse, I’m sure what’s fueling Rex to stick by MS/Holmes in hopes both play better,NO choice there, one more attribute MS lacks, extending plays with his feet, I was one of very very few to say Schotty wasn’t our problem I was lambasted for that one as well. I constantly reminded fans Schotty threw his whole coaching style out the window and dumbed down the playbook for MS, He at least got us to playoffs and above 500, running game with Greene fantastic, in spite of MS, With Same O-line same guy’s on D you know old guy’s,MS is not only dragging players down he’s dragging us down Financially. losing Callahan was another mistake

  79. By scjoe on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    What’s getting lost in all of this is the fact that Mark Sanchez is laughing all the way to the bank each week when he picks up his pay check. He fully understands that no matter how terrible a job he does, that pay check remains the same. How many jobs out there today where that can be said? Only in America can you pay someone so very much to do so little!

  80. By Mike Jet Vet on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    Cont. so ultimately Schotty and Callahan became casualties or scapegoats for bad decisions made by Mike-T and company, I personally would have fired Pettine, conditioning coach and our scouts, long before letting Schotty and Callahan go, what’s the use we all can talk common sense till blue in the face, this will not change any time soon, we are lock in from GM mistakes . When you really think about it, Rex can’t possibly believe any more then us, MS is our best chance to win,What I believe start Gmac if he proves to be our guy, some how rework MS contract, Holmes will be impossible he’ll just start whining and sulking and refusing, I’d try maybe he’ll ask to be traded. wishful thinking

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  82. By scjoe on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    Not being in that building, and not knowing without a doubt exactly who is calling all the shots (WJ? T-Bum? Rex?) I will give Rex the benefit of the doubt. It is just so very hard for me to believe his position on Mark Sanchez. If it were a bad performance here and there that would be one thing, but week after week after week after week, season after season? There has to be an underlying factor, Salary? Playing time? Contract issue? One thing I am certain it can not be is “Mark gives us the best chance to win” Anyone who has been watching this team for any length of time could tell you that. C’mon people, no matter which of you is making the decisions, do the right thing.

  83. By THUNDER LIPS on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    Kleckofan – i agree with you on the Mets. Jets should have been doing the samething but Rex is too Buddy Buddy with his vet players like Scott, Pace, and some other guys. Rex is turning into BUddy as it turns out. Good DC bad head coach. i heard he was crying again in the lockeroom after the game AGAIN. this is not head coach material. we need a disciplinarian who the players respect, fear, and strive to win his acceptance. its like training a dog. they may like you but if you cry and show weakness they will not respect you. The cap article suggests a very plausible explanation for the debaucle this year. if I were the coach at this point i would put in McElroy and see what eh can do. it can’t be much worse. (cont)

  84. By scjoe on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer, re” your comments on Tebow’s playing time, if that were the case, wouldn’t the Jets FO be aware of that fact when they went out and gave up 2 valuable draft picks to make the trade? Why would they bring him in knowing that if he has a “certain” amount of snaps during the season he will be due 10 Mil in 2013? What would be the point? What would they have done had MS gone down for the season in game #1? I would be the very first to agree that this FO is lacking, big time, but could ANYONE be that incompetent? I find that hard to believe.

  85. By THUNDER LIPS on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    (cont) we may be stuck with Sanchez and his bloated contract for another year, holmes too but that doesn’t mean we need to hinder development of our young guys. Put Mcelroy in see if he is a legit backup or maybe you strike the lottery and hes a tom brady waiting to jump out of the box. sanchez is taking this team backwards. I say start McElroy and see what he can do. by that point the Tebow cap issue should be a non factor. then you can split snaps between them. development them both for a trade or potentially to keep (Mcelroy keep) and (tebo Trade). Then you have a legit QB competition next offseason. this will bring out the best in all QB’s. maybe Sanchez saves face and we can actually get something in trade for me but doubt it.

  86. By Bennett on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    Two great seasons and we go 8-8. Steps to correct this, doable and very obvious in the off-season. To all except T-baum. FIRST thing he did last off season was to pay Hunter a multi million dollar roster bonus to keep him. Does that make sense to anyone here ? We have a QB thats future is uncertain what does he do EXTENDS him WITH a huge contract… money way beyond his skill level. Folks we are stuck with MS as the owner will not be pleased to see him benched with MILLIONS and MILLIONS in guar. money and an untradeable enormous contract. Does this make sense to anyone here ? A viable #2 in order to step in if MS again melts down, an obvious off season move. Tebow?? come on…

  87. By Bennett on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    What happened ? We have a coach whose words that were suppossed to be used to fire up his team instead fire up the other team. A coach whoose boasts ring so hollow and almost pathetic now. A GM that tinkered with a team that was poised to win and by single hand turned it down the long road of defeat. A QB so sure of his skillls as to enter the draft early now ready to join the legions of players who were stars their whole lives only to meet the harsh reality of the NFL. An organization that refused to see the evidence that was right before their eyes, and take the obvious coarse . And for us fans who blamed Schotty for everything, while he in reality with enormous skill had sucess for us… and we never realized it

  88. By Allan O'Dane on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    If I kept doing something at work that was costing my job money over and over again..I would be fired…So why is Mark still the starting QB? He’s not the solution, he’s the problem along with the HC and GM. Mark must have some secret pics of feet somewhere and is blackmailing someone, because there is no head coach in this league that would keep sanchez in the lineup week after week with his performance. Go ahead Rex…Keep saying that Mark gives the NYJ the best chance to win…because the players are not stupid…they watch the film too..and he’s going to start division among the players by coddling mark. It’s going to get nasty if they lose to the Rams…watch..

  89. By Tom Spicer on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    Christopher, Do you have reading problems? I never said anything about trading Sanchez. No one will trade for him! I said the Jets are still playing him because he is guarnteed $10,000,000 this year & $10,000,000 next year cause of the STUPID contract that MR.T gave him.

  90. By Tom Spicer on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    SCJoe, The comment about Tebows playing time did not come from me. It came from newyourkjetscap.com. The guy who does the site is on top of his game. I doubt very highly he is making this up. Also yes I think the Jet front office is that stupid. Finally this has been said OVER & OVER & OVER. The Jets traded for Tebow to sell PSL’S, sell jersey’s & to get publicity / the back page of the paper. They had no intentions of giving him serious playing time & if they did they already would have. Pleas read the article!

  91. By ron alexander on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    RANDY, can you let us know what the Tebow deal is concerning the 10 mill kicker based on playing time? is there any thing to it? S.C.Joe, as we basically said the same thing concerning this weeks debacle I’m confused by your comment? I fully agree the D was not the problem & that the lack of offence was basically what cost us any chance to win this game. I was actually impressed with how the fefence got after Wilson in the 1st half. If Sanchex & the Ogffence held up their end of things this game would have been interesting. Hello IRA, you o.k buddy?

  92. By Randy Lange on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry, ron, even if I knew anything about anyone’s contract, which I don’t, I wouldn’t be able to comment on it.

  93. By JetBlue on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    Rex needs to understand his audience. The long-suffering, passionate Jet Fan has been thru the ringer so many times that we know garbage when we see it. It’s become so obvious that Rex has no answer for improving this team’s performance. His words are empty and the team is playing worse every week. If a coach can’t make adjustments and get his team to respond then he doesn’t deserve to be the coach. If a QB keeps making the same mind-boggling mistakes every game, then he doesn’t deserve to be your QB. The fans are restless and all Rex keeps telling us is that he still believes in Santa Claus & the Easter Bunny.
    Yes Virginia, they are the Same Old Jets!

  94. By Byrdman on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    Scjoe – regarding the Tebow contract and the big $$ that kicks in based on his snaps – I think the front office was crushed when Manning went to Denver so T-bomb felt compelled to make a big splashy trade, and the TT contract was a calculated risk. We’ll learn more after the next game since 6 full starts is a magic number for Tebow’s big $$. T-Bomb was under pressure to deliver this season and hopelessly BOTCHED it – this could be the nail in T-bomb’s coffin. Rex is losing this team – his recent presser stated he asks his staff AND players how to fix things. Any team I’ve played on we expected the COACH to have all the answers… that’s why HE IS THE HEAD COACH – Rex is one blowout away from a total meltdown I think !

  95. By Jake on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    I was at that game in Seattle. What a disgrace… I feel so bad for our defense. The D gave the team every chance they could for 3 quarters. I took a beating from the seahawks fans. I sware I was the last Jet fan in the stadium but I stood in the pooring down rain tell the game clock said 00:00. I wasn’t going to leave my Team, but man it was brutal. This team has alot to figure out. I was in the Hawks nest and the Sanchez goal line INT happened right in front of me… That ball came out so late. Keller had called for it twice before that ball was thrown and of course Sanchez threw it late which allowed the CB to undercut the route. Just horrible! I’m a better Jet fan today for it though. Big changes need to happen, and fast!

  96. By Jet Fan Tom Since '64 Brief on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    Looks like everyone finally realizes that Sanchez and Rex are a joke and they have to go, that’s a good thing. Some of you guys who called me a Patriot fan for pointing out the horrific weaknesses of this organization over the last few years, including these two blatantly obvious failures, can go root for the Hamilton Tiger-Cats.

  97. By Byrdman on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    Eli – of these free agents I’d keep Folk, Landry and long snapper Purdum.
    Folk seems to be getting better. Purdum, just cause it’s difficult to find a reliable long snapper. Landry’s only negatives were his health concerns and his penalties – he’s 100% healthy (so far) and I think the penalties come with a physical impact player of his caliber. EVERYBODY else on that list,, let em walk! Keller is a middle of the pack TE looking for a Gronkowski payday. Brandon Moore’s play has been declining since his hip surgery – Howard looked good for one game and this team desperately needs a franchise guard and RT. We are stuck with Kyle Wilson, wonder if he could actually be a free safety pretending to be a corner?

  98. By GaryC on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    jetfantom,you might see upside in Newton,but right now he is two for two,as in two straight years no playoffs,If that was Sanchez you would be saying bye bye.and Newton does throw about two intercepts per game also.And Please,I do not want to hear about Matt Barkley,he also is having a lousy year as you know being a West Coast denizen.

  99. By GaryC on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    If,in according to Rex,sanchez gives us our best chance to win,I guess I will opt for the worst chance to win.

  100. By Bennett on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    We are 3-6,with 7 to go we have the Pats the rest are beatable. Win 6 out of the last 7 we go 9-7 and end the season one of hottest team in the league.If this happens everyone keeps their jobs. The best chance to do this is to put Tebow in he did it last year maybe lighting will strike twice. What is the alternative ? Maybe, just maybe 7-9. What do you have to lose, roll the dice can’t get worse, might just save your job Rex. How long you going to stick with MS, untile we are 3-12 ?. HE does not give you the best chance to win he gives you the best chance to lose. Can you not even see this even at this late date?. Get beat next week to late for a Tebow, all over for this season, don’t let the door hit you on the way out

  101. By Another Tom on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    Rex vs Jeff Fisher this week..tough coach who just benched 2 starters last week for disciplinary reasons and should have beaten the 9 ers at SF…thats my kind of coach..even the prospect of having a top 5 pick in the upcoming draft is not exciting with this current regime calling the shots..

  102. By SCfromNY on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    scjoe, agree with you about Sanchez having no fear for his job. Almost as bad as our representatives in Washington. Big salries, lifetime healthcare and pensions even if you are terrible at your job. The Stinkchez gives us little hope to win. If the playing time catch in Tebows contract is true I wouldn’t start hin either. What can we lose by starting McElroy? Will we hurt Sanchez’ and Tebows feelings. Perhaps they should call Parcells or Belicick to see how they would handle a QB with Sanchez’s record and lack of skill.

  103. By Tom Spicer on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    I have a new name for MR.T “THE TEFLON DON” like the late John Gotti. This guy can do anything & not lose his job. He has Woody’s ear that is his guy. He can blame anyone & anything on everyone & take none of the balme. Gholston, Wilson, Sanchez, Ducasse, Greene. I can go on & on & on!

  104. By Tom Spicer on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    Rex is going to take the fall for MR.T I promise you. Rex is saying oh I think we need to play Mark knowing that either MR.T or Woody or both of the two are telling him Mark has to playing based off of the $20,000,000 in guarenteed money Mark is owed for this year & next year. MR.T should pay for that contract (& Holmes contract) with his job. NO one can tell me that Rex’s hand is not being forced. Either that or Tebow is THAT BAD & he never wanted him & does not want him to SNIFF the field!

  105. By Joe R on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    Even Chad Pennington with his Lack of arm strength was a solid QB, he was one of the most accurate passers in the league when he played for the Jets. I dare say that our team was better under Herm Edwards that this laughing stock that it has become these past two years. I’ll never stop being a Jets fan, but damn… it hurts.

  106. By ron alexander on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    BENNETT, welcome back dude, we missed you! As much as I dont want to see any more of Sanchez i cant go along with playing Tebow. First of all if theres any truth to the 10 mill contract thing we cant afford to pay him & Sanchex 30 mill next year!No way no how! Secondly, the Jet roster is nothing like Denvers last year. We simply do not have the wide recievers and r.b’s neccessary to run the ‘spread offence.You need the w.r’s to keep the D from playing 8 to 9 guys in the box.Tebow is not fast enough to get outside and there is no way you can block 8 to 9 guys with 5 or 6. Lastly, we have no r.b’s to fake to so the D simply has to go after Tebow on every play. How long do you think he will last getting drilled on every play? Mabey McElroy?

  107. By MIKE on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    Rex is a much bigger problem than Sanchez. Sanchez is a high draft pick at a highly scrutinized position, who just happened to have good success his first two years piggy backed by a great D and O-line. Rex however road the coat tails of the Mangini Mr.T team with good drafting. I still say Favre lost Mangini his job.

    Rex walked into town with the best o-line in football, great run game, a top notch run D and Revis already in place. If I was hired with that team in place I could of finished 8-8.

    This is Rex’s circus that he built. High profile player moves, predictions, and trash talk. Know body respects this organization, and I don’t blame them. Thank god the Raiders are such a joke, it could be worse.

  108. By MIKE on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    Love the article n NFL.com about Ryan whiffing on Woodhead. Pretty much sums up his time here in a nut shell. Admitting your mistakes and adjusting is part of being a leader and Rex hasn’t done that.

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  110. By Bennett on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    Couple things bother me. During the pre-season I think it was the third game and we still hadn’t scored a touchdown yet, and I’m thinking this team is in big trouble and we are in the process of another ugly loss and there was Tebow and Sanchez joking and laughting on the sideline. Same game the got T-baum in the booth at half-time smiling and laughting and knocking the softball questions out of the park. Bothered me then really bothers me now. What kind of a team have we got here ? The first team not to score a TD in decades in the pre-season and they never even took it serious… jokeing around instead of getting worried when the should have been getting very worried…aint so funny now huh?

  111. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    I do not disagree the REX and COMPANY must go. As for MS’s contract, unless WOODY is a total idiot (which would not surprise me, MS’s contract has a performance clause in it. I do not know of a team that does not pay based on performance and as for MS’s performance, for the last two years he has the worst QB rating in the league. As for Santonio Holmes, he may not come back.I have high hopes that REX and company will be gone by seasons end. MS will either be cut or traded (but who wants him). As for TT, he really has not had a chance to see what he can do. But I do not believe he will be the answer and I see him going to the JAGS next year (depending on where they are in the draft. Please let the get several more wins so we can have

  112. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    (Continued) the number 1 pick. “Gruden” I hope is the next coach, if mot then bring in Cower…

  113. By Bennett on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    Out of all the things that bug me about Sanchez (and there is a list as long as your arm) the one thing that drives me nuts and I still see it EVERY GAME. He never learned one basic thing all QB’s have got to learn…when you got to take a sack TAKE A SACK. Protect the ball curl up and go down DO NOT MAKE IT WORSE, with a ridiculous attempt to avoid it or an off balanced, hurried attempt to get rid of the ball.. TAKE THE DARN SACK IF YOU HAVE TO…. LEARN WHEN YOU HAVE TO. Watch Brady quickly fold like a cheap lawn chair when he knows it’s going to happen.

  114. By GaryC on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    It has been proven,Maybin was Maybe not,I guess the bills knew what they were doing all along.the Jets not only have their own number one busts,but also bring in other teams number one’s who prove the same.

  115. By GaryC on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    On Turkey night it is time to stuff the ballot box instead of the Turkey,with the name of McElroy as our write in candidate.

  116. By scjoe on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer/Byrdman, First off Tom, I know it didn’t come from you directly. I read the article on the jets cap site and let me quote a very important paragraph in that article. “But the big one is Tim Tebow. Again I want to mention here that the information I have on Tebow is from his prior contract with Denver which I “assume” rolled over with the Jets, but I do not know for a fact if this is the case. So take this as a possibility and not 100% accurate”. That was copied and pasted from the article and after reading it, it confirmed my doubts I originally had. Byrdman, I hear what you are saying about making a splash, but I think a 10 Mil calculated risk would be a little much.

  117. By scjoe on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    Just a follow up on that post re: the Jets cap website. While reading the article about Tebow’s playing time, I glanced at the cap numbers for 2013. Here is what is interesting. The following players, Sanchez, Scott, Pace, Jason Smith and Eric Smith, if they are all released, would save $35 Mil in cap savings. Yes, there will be some dead money involved as well, but that is the price you pay for ineptness. From where I sit, none of those players would be significantly missed. So, the cap doesn’t necessarily have to be a major concern in 2013.

  118. By scjoe on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    SCNY, You are dead on in your comparison with Mark Sanchez, his big, fat, guaranteed salary, his job security and his lack of accountability with “most” of our reps in Washington. They to are grossly over paid, with no accountability, and no fear of losing their jobs, no matter how much they screw it up, or how little they accomplish. Again, only in America!

  119. By scjoe on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    Ron, I re read my post, not sure what you meant about confusion. What I said is the lack of speed in general, on the D is getting more exposed each week. I also stated that Pace should not be an OLB in a 3-4. What he is, and what he should be is a b/u DE in a 4-3. He has zero coverage skills, he lacks the speed to cover backs or TEs, OR to contain a QB who has any kind of mobility to speak of when he leaves the pocket. That is why he would be better suited as a DE in a 4-3 where he wont have all those responsibilities.

  120. By Patty on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    Greg McElroy went undefeated 16-0 and won the high school state championship in Texas. He went undefeated 14-0 and won the national championship at Alabama. He set records in high school and college, was voted one of the smartest athletes in America. If you study his stats you see he throws hardly any interceptions. He’ a smart, winner, leader who knows how to manage a game and move the chains like a Dan Marino. His passer rating with Ala ended up at 158.5%. Why the NY Jets don’t give him a shot is dumbfounding because he is deadly accurate. The Jets have nothing to lose getting him into the game to see what he can do being the season is shot. It’s amazing but he’s never been a loser He’s a Chad Pennington and the Jets won’t try him. SAD

  121. By scjoe on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer, it is my contention that Rex did not want Sanchez, he did not want Tebow, he did not want Coples, he did not want Stephen Hill. He has to play the good soldier. Mike Tannenbum has the final say on all personnel decisions. The problem is T-bum is not a talent evaluator, he is a cap “specialist” and I don’t even think he is capable of that. Until I see definite proof that that is not the case, Rex gets a free pass as far as I am concerned. On the latest “head scratching move?” How was Aaron Maybin the next coming of Lawerence Taylor last year, and gets cut after 9 games this year? Did he all of a sudden forget how to rush the passer?

  122. By Another Tom on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Rex…At least try something different and let M S carry the clip board and watch the rest of the year..it may be beneficial to Him, ya never know..Of course it wont happen…too obvious of a solution. I wonder if we hung on to our prized free agent Drew Stanton – would He be allowed to compete?

  123. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom of Few Words on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Rex taking the fall for Mr T, Mr T taking the fall for Rex, Sanchez taking the fall for both — what’s the difference, Spice? They’re all sub-par, as is Woody. A new broom must sweep clean, and I mean clean out of New Jersey and back to Queens!

  124. By JetBlue on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer: Glad to see that you’ve come to grips with some of the real reasons that this team is so bad and can now freely admit that ya boy Sanchez is done. But what are you seeing now that many of us saw over a year ago? Is it the lack of NFL QB fundamentals? The inaccurracy of just about every pass he throws? The poor pocket presence? The fumbles? The untimely interceptions? That puzzled look on his face? The total lack of improvement in almost 4 years? The inability to pre-read the D at the line? Or was it all of the above? It’s just hard to watch Rex stand up and not look us in the eye while he preaches and praises about his belief in this failed experiment. It really doesn’t matter how much money the QB makes. He’s done.

  125. By IRA on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Ron, Yeah all is good except for the Jets. Glad i am just happy to have a house standing after the storm. The Jets problems will sort themselves out after the year and if changes need to be made they will make them.
    Just remember what i said during camp. This team has 8 win talent and if they stay healthy they maybe could win 9 and if they don’t stay healthy 5-6. I never expected them to be a playoff team in my mind. My heart always feels different. Hope they can finish strong and see how the cards unfold.
    GO JETS!!!!

  126. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom of Few Words on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    As long as Sanchez plays in this league, you’ll be reading stuff like this: “Keller ran a corner route and he was open for a split-second, but Sanchez’s throw was late and lacked velocity, resulting in the interception. Sanchez tried a pump fake and appeared indecisive, and the delay was costly. He probably kicked himself watching the film because Stephen Hill was all alone in the back of the end zone. He stood there, under the goal post, with both arms raised. Sanchez didn’t see him or didn’t think he could get him the ball.”

  127. By Bennett on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Anonymous Jets player referimg to the QB situation in a quote to the Daily News “there is no viable option ” Thank you T-baum

  128. By SCfromNY on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Jets release Maybin. Unfortunately with limited playing time he was unable to make a contribution. Next stop for Maybin: NE.

    While we are replacing all the coaches let’s not forget the strenght coach.

    I still like Gruden, NO Fassel or Cowher. I do not follow college football so i have no idea if the next harbaugh is there.

    I think Sunday we will see Shotty smile for he first time during a Jet game.

    Rex’s record is not bad but decisions about talent and ability off the charts in the wrong direction.

  129. By Bennett on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Rex is going to take the fall for T-baum ? I will go one further… T-baum is going to throw Rex under the bus to survive… and never think twice about it

  130. By Tom Spicer on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    “A defensive starter tells the Daily News that Tim Tebow is “terrible.” Per the report, more than a dozen players and members of the Jets believe Tebow is “simply not very good.” The “prevailing thought” is that he’s “nothing more than a gimmick.” It’s exactly what we suspected is going on behind the scenes. If Tebow was showing anything at all in practice, the Jets would have yanked Mark Sanchez by now. “It’s not even close,” LG Matt Slauson said. “All the other quarterbacks know it. I have all the confidence in Mark. We don’t really have a choice.” Of course, Tebow’s skill set doesn’t show well in practice or 7-on-7 drills”. So basically 12 guys said Tebow is even worse than Sanchez. Only 1 of the 12 guys gave there name Matt Slauson but

  131. By Tom Spicer on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    you get the jist. The team feels Tebow is way worse which is really bad for us. Also this can be the start of exactly what we had last year team in fighting.

  132. By Mike Jet Vet on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Maybin gone, of course, typical Jet scenario, Bring him in to compete, don’t give him a legitimate shot let him go, like so many other Former Jets playing lights out on every other team.. Yet Sanchez STILL STARTS, NE far out numbers and classes us in Picks, yet they always seem to find room for any player we let go. Little Bill uses the Jets for his teams personal Farm club.They somehow wind up with our high picks for what amounts to by NFL standards peanut butter and Jelly.. We deserved the title laughing stock we are,…Look throughout the league in last 10 years, I’m willing bet bet anything, Jets have had more players leave then go on and have a much better career somewhere else

  133. By GaryC on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    I posted something which didn’t get through about a couple of the jet dunderheads knocking Tebow calling him Terrible,Let’s see if this gets by.It must be Rex himself who is screening the posts,all I said was if these two knuckleheads calling Tebow terrible,which we know,he isn’t a quarterback,then these two guys must have little self esteem themselves knocking a guy who is a bench warmer at best.

  134. By GaryC on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    I love it that people are now missing the Mangenius,a guy who was true to himself even though he had the personality of a dead fish.Was not looking to give schtick at the pressers, and now we have King Bloviator who refuses to give a guy like McElroy a shot,who might show more intellect then most on the jets coaching staff and who has definitely won more then anyone on the coaching staff.

  135. By Tom Spicer on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Bennett, I appreciate the class that you have shown through all of this there are others on this site who are taking there shots but I can list there many MANY misses in the past but I am not going to stoop to there level.

  136. By JetBlue on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    College Coaches that seem to know how to motivate and sustain:
    Chip Kelly (Oregon)
    Bob Stoops (OK)
    I would go with a college coach only if the team is prepared to go the rebuilding route, with youth thru the draft. Just like the Cowboys did when they hired Jimmy Johnson. If this teams keeps signing old free agents, no college coach is prepared to deal with that.

    Like many have said, it’s time to clean house and build a winner. New GM, HC, QB is a good start.

  137. By ron alexander on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    S.C.JOE, no sweat my man, It just seemed to me like you mistook my post.I wasn’t critisining the D at all.Frankly, I thought the late breakdowns were a result of over exposure &fatigue! Anyway, we are in complete agreement about the lack of speed & the fact Pace is not a O.L.B He was lined up as a D.E in the 2nd half when he kept losing his outside contain as Wilson ran circles around him.He was actually converted by the Cardinals to o.l.b after failing as a D.E. As for Maybin, I said this over the summer that he was simply a one trick poney.He had great straight ahead speed so if the o.l didnt get a hand on him he could run past them.Unfortunately, teams quickly adjusted to him and he was basically ineffective since late last year.

  138. By Tom Spicer on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Tom 64, SCJoe & Mike the Jet Vet, I was not aware that you guys are the end all be all when it comes to football knowledge. I can name all three of you guys many MANY misses on football players. I am going to take the high road on this one & just leave it at that.

  139. By GaryC on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    I like the Bell signing,definitely has more quicks then Greene,a back out of UCLA gives the jets a pass catching back,if the jets can use him correctly,they haven’t used McKnight correctly yet,so who knows with Bell.Saw him play some games with the Bears and can break a long run know and then.

  140. By ron alexander on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    JOE, you need to move on to some new material dude. Now the Spicer,Gary C & even Karan have seen the light I’m thinking we are all basically on the same page.No longer any need to attack the “delusional’ dreamers in fantasyland’! I think we have all seen the light! I do agree we need to look at what we could get for Revis.The problem is his value will be minimized until he is 100% recovered from his injury so the timing of a trade will probably not help us in 2013. PATTY, nice job on the MacElroy post! The problem is inspite of his impressive resume it appears the organization has chosen to focus on what they percieve are his ‘limited physical abilities.His lack of size,speed & arm strength are probably whats holding him back.Me,not so sure

  141. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    No matter what level you look at on who is taking pot shots. Not even you Spicer can be proud of the Jets Coaching Staff. REX, all talk, no results. Sparano is a 100% joke a Miami reject who could not muster any offense for Miami. How many points are on the board with his offense calls. MS/TT a gimmick that back-fired. MS the worst passing percentage in the NFL, opps #1 in interceptions, getting sacked and can not connect. Ground game lousy. Corrections, by he Owners of the Jets, none insight. Will I remain a Jet fan, you bet. But I would like to see something better then what we are seeing. I feel we all want that….

  142. By Eli Rodriguez AKA (RUSS BALL 4 GM) on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply


  143. By ron alexander on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    SPICER, dude, anyone here takeing shots at you is way out of line. Its wrong to critisize a guy who loves and believes in his team and its players like you do. I may not always agree with everything you say but I have always respected your opinions and admired you for sticking to your convictions. As things have played out it has become obvious to all that in this case the nay sayers were proven right. So to Tom64, S.C.Joe & yes you to JOE, I must say you were right as M.S has not delivered! Now, moving forward like PATTY i would love to see what MacElroy can do playing with the first team under real game conditions.As far as the coaching situation, if rex is canned i would prefer someone like T.Kelly from Notre Dame or Bradley from Penn St

  144. By Allan O'Dane on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Well..just like I said in my previous post, the division has begun. And everyone can blame Woody Johnson and Mike T and Rex Ryan. I feel for Tebow. It’s not his fault things are going the way they are. Teamates talking bad about him..I guess they must have a short memory because Tebow beat them last year. Johnson/Mike T./Ryan caused this mess, But the only good thing I can say about this circus act is that with Turmoil comes change….GaryC I have been saying that MCElory could be our Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers…Just fYI..McElory had better college stats then Brady and the kid won a national championship…He’s a winner…LET THE KID PLAY!!!!

  145. By Bennett on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Ron Alexander excellant observation and anaylis as usual, points taken.Yeah it is a shot in the dark approach. As the unknown Jet player said ” there is no viable option “. However you got to ask yourself this.As this is the case what would the have done if Sanchez went down wiith an injury the first game? Tebow is the backup. Is he really so unsuited to the NFL that he cannot be inserted in to any pro offense and be effective? Did the really not think of the contingency of the starting QB going down and Tebow stepping in, when the decsion was made to trade for him and plan offensive changes ?

  146. By joeydefiant on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    i don’t like the players. i don’t like the coaches. i don’t like the gm. i don’t like the owner. I like the LOGO! i spend lots of money and time making sure the JETS LOGO is not disrespected! they need to get all new players, coaching staff, and owner to wear this LOGO i love so much. I love the jets logo. if i don’t like the players, coaches, and owner what else is left??? i wear my blank jersey with pride. when they get players and coaches from other teams that I like i will put their names on my shirt and stand out in the cold and yell YEAH! and clap when they do something good. why don’t i just pick a logo with players and coaches that I like??? because the JETS LOGO is SPECIAL!!!

  147. By Tom Spicer on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    JetBlue, You have not been with us long enough for me to bring up your misses on players. Yes congrats I though Mark would improve & stop throwing the really bad picks & just take the sack. I also thought he would learn from his mistakes & when a defender has him in his grasp instead of trying to throw the ball with soemone all over him. He would just eat it & take they sack he still has not learned to do that & therefore as I have said we have to move on.

  148. By Bennett on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Man after reading Patty I am like put this kid in and put him in now. What am I missing here

  149. By Byrdman on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Wonderful – Jet locker room has imploded again, we officially have a team of anonymous back-stabbers. Does it surprise anyone here now why this team is a laughingstock? They trash-talk their own team-mates! If I were Tebow I’d hit somebody in that toxic locker room, probably hits harder than anybody on the O-line Guys,, this is sickening! What a sorry state of affairs. Tebow gets thrown into this dumpster fire and has been a perfect gentleman. This team has become a festering boil which needs to be LANCED !

  150. By Fran'scan on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Just watched Rex’s post game conference… Great to say you and the team “believe” but as they say in life Rex…”ignorance is bliss.” We need to clean house after the season & that means Bradway, T Baum, Rex & Sanchez. When you make a mistake like when did in Sanchez, its best to admit it & make a change & move on. Sanchez will never be more than a trent dilfer game manager & the sooner we find other options, the quicker we will get out of this hole. I believed in him for a long time but the guy just cant read defenses or has the football IQ for an NFL QB. No excuses, no explanations. Start McElroy to see what he has got…

  151. By Tom Spicer on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Yesterday there was a article in the Post that basically said this. “Through 13 games last season Mark Sanchez was the leader the Jets needed him to be, building on 2 AFC title game appearances. Here’s a comparison between those 13 games & his last 12: 1st 13 games of last year 8 wins & 5 losses, 57% completion pecentage, 220 yards per game, 21 TD’S, 11 picks & a 83 rating. In his last 12 games 3 wins & 9 losses, 53 % completion percentage, 206 yards per game, 15 TD’S & 16 picks & a 67 rating. I dont know how he went from the QB in the 1st 13 games of 2011 to the QB we have seen in the last 12 regular season games. To me his completion percentage, yardage, rating & TD’S went up every year so I thought he was getting better. I thought he

  152. By Karan on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Rex Ryan > Eric Mangini ANY DAY.

  153. By Tom Spicer on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    would learn from his mistakes & stop throwing those really bad back breaking picks & those stupid fumbles but he is not learning at all. I dont know what it is but he is way worse than the 1st 13 games of last year. Can it be he is shell shocked from the beating he took last year? Can it be that going from Braylon, Holmes & Cotchery 2010 to Holmes, “Stone Hands” Mason & Plastico in 2011 to 2012 with Kerley, Hill (who is clearly not ready) & Scheiliens (a number 4 at best)? Or is it he is not mentally strong enough to handle Tebow being there & being shuffled in & out of games? Or is a combination of all 3? I dont know but what I do no is this. It is time to move on He has regressed & is not the guy who is going to win us a Super Bowl.

  154. By scjoe on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    The embarrassment of being a Jet fan these days just goes on and on and on! With 12 “anonymous” players ragging on a back up QB. A guy who sees the playing field for about 4 or 5 plays a game, instead of looking in the mirror and judging their own performance is bush league at best. Tebow is not the reason this team is 3-6 and heading South at a rapid pace, it is you “anonymous” players that are responsible for that. I can count no more then 6-8 players on this team who are in a position to rag on the performance of ANYONE!!! So someone tell me, who are these 12 “players” and I use the term loosely.

  155. By Tom Spicer on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Wow read the article from the Daily News. These are a few of the quotes in regards to Tebow. “He’s terrible,” a defensive starter told the Daily News.” ”
    “It’s not even close,” Slauson said. “All the other quarterbacks know it. We dont really have a choice” ““We have Greg . . . and we have an athlete,” Slauson said”
    To most of the people in the organization, Tebow is nothing more than a specialty player who doesn’t have the requisite skills to be a true quarterback in the league. “We don’t look at him as a quarterback,” another starter said. “He’s the Wildcat guy.” But most members of the Jets don’t believe that what they saw from Tebow last season is sustainable. “We can’t win running that sh–,” one player said. “

  156. By Tom Spicer on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    As far as there defense of MArk hear is what the article says. The organization has factored Sanchez’s weak supporting cast of skill position players into the equation. “Look at some of the players he’s throwing to,” a Jets official said. “It’s garbage.” Said another Jets source: “I’ve seen better receiving corps in college than we have on our team”. While I agree with some of the stuff as far as the Jet skill position players. I have to say this as a member of the team you do not go public with it! This ship be sinking!

  157. By scjoe on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    SCNY, I think you know my stance on Rex continuing as HC. BUT, in answer to your question about college coaches who could be considerations, the first one that comes to mind is Chip Kelly at Oregon. He turned around a pretty mediocre Oregon team and transformed them in to a power house in 4 years. He is an offensive minded coach and may be worth a look. Another guy to look at is Chris Petersen at Boise State. All that said, lets remember, that is college! This is the NFL!

  158. By Mike Jet Vet on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer. You taking Matt Slauson seriously? after saying he has all the confidence In Sanchez . Now I know Tim is our best option between Him or Sanchez no matter what , Matt blocks and get his butt handed to him every week from Sanchez’s ineptitude , same go’s for our Defense …Come on So Matt can say he believe’s in mark but when Rex said it, He’s incompetent and should be fired. Rex has an excuse he has no choice being told told to stick with MS, Matt has no excuse again your logic is off course.

  159. By GaryC on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    this is for Rex and Tanny,seeing that everyone says you blew it on Sanchez,why don’t you turn it around and play McElroy,and if he succeeds,people will say then that the jets picked a quarterback in the sixth round who succeeded and maybe they know what there doing.what about that,front office,And if Fans are looking for a sleeper in a college coach look at what Gary Patterson has done at TCU,grew them from nothing to contenders every year in their conference.

  160. By GaryC on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    What does it say about a head coach who reprimands players who speak their mind,yet let’s the back stabbers get away with it and also the players who know who those guys are also.Rex,I guess feels more at ease with these type of guys around instead of the goody goody boys which I guess he was never one.

  161. By Tom Spicer on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Mike Jet Vet, I am not sure what you are talking about. I was copying & pasting stuff from a article. If you read what I wrote I said this “I have to say this as a member of the team you do not go public with it! This ship be sinking!” What part of that do you not understand?

  162. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom of Few Words on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer, of course we’ve all missed on players over the yrs, but your several yrs of quoting Sanchez’s garbage time stats as it he’d actually played well in games that he almost lost single-handedly was a little beyond the call of duty, no? And Gary C, don’t feel bad, I wrote a post analogizing Rex’s level of emotional development and the team’s dysfunctional family-like waiting for him to be removed from the scene that was apparently too strong for the censor…even though every word of it was true.

  163. By ron alexander on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    GUYS, Hold on a minuite! Why is everyone assuming there is any validity to the story in the Dailey News? Did anyone notice who wrote it? None other than Manesh (confidential source)Mehta!!!! Has anyone noticed that any story of remote interest that he writes is full of quotes from ‘un-named sources”? Hey, I imagine there is some truth to it as i could see a couple of guys shooting off their mouths.But I find it hard to believe there were a dozen guys who were involved! Now, if it turns out that its all true we as fans should be extremely disappointed. but going on what I have seen from his history i am not convinced this whole thing is on the up & up!

  164. By ron alexander on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    BENNETT, thanx bro, i appreciate your kind words. Truthfully, I dont know what the heck they were thinking when they brought Tebow here? I’m guessing the guys who post here who say they did it for publicity are probably on the money. When you look at Denvers W.R’s Demario Thomas & Decker you have two big fast guys to spread the D out. Plus a T.E who can hurt you as well. Throw in three R.B’s who are better than anyone we have plus a better O.l & its easy to see why he had some success in Denver. With our O.L & recievers & R.B’s I just dont think he could have the same results.

  165. By kw65fan on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    I take it with a grain of salt….this Munesh guy of daily news writes garbage. he is constantly making things up from last year…training camp…and now again with his infamous “non-quoting” guys. Please…this guy belongs writing for some rag magazine like the enquirer. Knows nothing about football…but his pen is like a knife…he loves to stick it in where there is no reason but to have controversy. He writes garbage and his thoughts are so dim-witted simpley because he knows nothing about the game. And just like last year…he has his “No-name” sources. Please…he is a waste of a writer just causing trouble….

  166. By Bennett on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    I am concerned about the talk like “well what to you expect from Sanchez look at the WR’s ” Just like last years “well what to you expect look at his protection ” More excuses for him. I thought he had a pretty good primary target set last year with Holmes, Keller and Plax (who he seemed to favor in the end zone.) and still the pics, fumbles, blown reads, missed open recievers, horrible pocket presance and always, always the key turnovers that kill any sustained momentum and suck the life out of a team. Will it ever end ? Will the ever stop making excuses for him? Will next year be “we have to suround Sanchez with better talent and he will perform” only to see more of the same. It will always be someone or something else with this FO

  167. By ron alexander on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    S.C.Joe, I mentioned Kelly from N.D and Bradley from Penn St. because I think they both stepped into difficult situations and inspite of experiencing some early misfortune & even tragedy, both have turned their programs into solid if not spectacular winners!
    Obviously anyone who endevers to coach at N.D is putting himself on the hotseat as expectations there are off the charts! As for the Penn St. posisition, no one expected them to have a winning season much less be in contention for a Big Ten title.Considering the sanctions placed on them, the loss of key players who transferred out and implementing a new regime I have to say the guy has done an unbelievable job to date.Both these coaches have NFL experience as well.

  168. By scjoe on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer, you sure have a funny way of “taking the high road”

  169. By Another Tom on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    This is a PROFESSIONAL organization? How can Rex possibly keep His job? looks like were in for another long stretch of mediocrity…great…and just when NE finally looks reasonably beatable..

  170. By JetBlue on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Spice: Don’t judge a fan’s knowledge based upon the number of posts he has. I’ve been down on Sanchez even when we went to the AFC Champ game in Pitt. Why? Because I know what I saw and he never had what it takes – not even in college. I was exited when the Jets picked McElroy because I thought if given the chance, he’d show up Sanchez and we’d get to see what a real winner looks like. Rex wouldn’t let that happen. I’ve been down on Rex for just as long and for the same reasons. Just not seeing it. Lose the stats and catch up to the real world. Say something insightful, not just regurgitated news clippings. Then I’ll value what you have to say, even if I disagree with it.

  171. By Joe on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Could some clarify the CAP PROBLEMS REGARDING HOLMES AND SANCHEZ as from what i was told the JETS CAN NOT cut either as it would destroy the cap (virtually have to pay tens of millions)

  172. By Byrdman on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    This may be just the type of dumpster fire we Jet fans needed. A 5-11 (or worse) record is just what the doctor ordered for this dying franchise – the sooner we face that fact the better. Sanchez is clearly not a franchise QB but that’s OK we’re stuck with him till 2014. Rex is not a SB caliber HC he’s too soft, but he’s not going anywhere so lets load up on some stellar draft picks while headed for the AFC basement. It will all be worth it if Jets draft (for example) Manti Te’o the Notre Dame LB – this kid is a relentless beast! That’s where I’m at right now, amid the foul stench of all these disgusting, sordid details that emerge – I choose to focus on a draft day Pot of Gold :D

  173. By Joe on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply


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  175. By Eli Rodriguez AKA (RUSS BALL 4 GM) on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Mr. Joe–I’m a G-MAC believer but that beside the point. If we had a guy with a peg leg, one eye and four fingers on his throwing hand, I’ll be calling to play him instead of M.S. Maybe G-MAC doesn’t have M.S. arm strength but what good is that arm strength when you can’t find or hit your target. The reason why some of us want to see McELROY is to determined if we need to draft 3 or 2 QB next year.(IMO– ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL G-MAC WOULD BEAT OUT M.S.) ——————————————————————————————————————-NOW THIS THING WITH TEBOW—-THEY ARE SIMPLY LOOKING FOR A SCAPEGOAT FOR A LOUSY YEAR–LETS NOT READ TO MUCH INTO IT.

  176. By scjoe on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Joe, if the Jets cut Sanchez they save $4.3 Mil against the cap in 2013. However, there will be more then $17 Mil in “dead money” Holmes? They will save $1.4 Mil against the cap and the dead money will be more then $11 Mil. Pretty sad situation right?

  177. By scjoe on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Joe, although I can’t disagree about McElroy’s arm strength, I feel it would be less of a burden that Sanchez accuracy, leadership, maturity, and pocket presence issues. Can he take us to a SB? Maybe not, but lets see what he can bring to the table. We already know what we got, and it aint very good.

  178. By GaryC on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Montana,third round,weak arm,Super Bowl winner,Brees,weak arm,Super bowl winner,Brad Johnson,low round pick,weak arm,Super Bowl winner.McElroy never plays with the number ones,how do we know what he can do.More to quarterbacking then being able to throw the ball through a brick wall.

  179. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    At present I live in Cape Coral, FL. Today in the News-Press of Fort Myers, FL “GRUDEN AND EDWARDS” both made comments about TT and the more I read the artice, the more I realized what they said was correct. TT reports to work every day. He puts 150% of himself into improving himself in all catagories. Both stated: he has no playing time, and when they do use him, every team knows what is going on and is ready for it. He should be put in as QB and given a chance, can TT do any worse then Sanchez this late in the season. MS gets worse the more he plays, he has become gun shy because of how many times he has been hit, sacked, fumbled, and intercepted. Both “GRUDEN AND EDWARDS” feel he should be given a shot. I sorta agree with this

  180. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    (CONTINUED) for it made sense. YET… REX says he is sticking with MS. I will never understand this of REX. “OH WELL”, we haave a game on Sunday, then again “Thansgiving Day” and as a JET fan I will be rooting for them as usual. “SO, LETS GO JETS”.

  181. By Tom Spicer on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    JetBlue, “Don’t judge a fan’s knowledge based upon the number of posts he has” I am not sure where you got from my comment to come up with this statement. I said “You have not been with us long enough for me to bring up your misses on players.” Which means that you have not been writing posts on this site long enough for me to mention the players you missed on. Also to your “lose the stats & the news clippings posts & you will value what I have to say”. Listen BUDDY I have been posting hear since day 1 & I talk about all things Jets every position & every player. This is what YOU DO come to this site 1 time & talk about something OTHER than how poorly Mark Sanchez played then MAYBE I will respect what you have to say!

  182. By ron alexander on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    JOE, Like S.C.Joe I am inclined to see what MacElroy can or cant do? Its amazing how simular his scouting report was to the guy the Bengals drafted that year. Andy Dalton had pretty much the same rap about arm strength & less tha ideal size and speed.The difference between Dalton & Mac is Dalton played in a system where he was featured and allowed to better develope his skills.Mac played in a system where he was treated as a game manager like Sanchez has been with the Jets. I doubt Mac would turn out to be as good as Dalton but would it hurt at this point to find out if he could be at least a viable back-up?Sanchez has lost whatever confidence he may have had & Tebow is simply not an NFL Q.B.

  183. By ron alexander on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    JETFAN FRANK, I have a close friend who lives at Coral Lakes off of Delprado in Cape Coral. Nice town dude. I dont know if you checked out some of my posts above concerning Tebow but they pretty much answere your questions about why they dont play him.Hey, as poorly as it was handled, even his own team mates dont see him as a viable starter.

  184. By Joe on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply


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  186. By Joe on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    As matter of FACT of we LOOK AT ALL THE SB WINNING QB PROBABLY 85 % WERE FIRST SECOND ROUNDERS .Off the top of my head Namath Elway Bradshaw Young Rogers Rothesburger E Manning P Manning Plunket Farve Stabler Stauback Aikman

  187. By Eli Rodriguez AKA (RUSS BALL 4 GM) on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply


  188. By Byrdman on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Jet64 Frank – I’m with Gruden, for 2 reasons:Give Tebow some extended play at QB if he’s horrible, bounces throws to open guys or throws pick’s etc you suppress or kill much of the Tebowmania. If he flashes some good throws and looks capable you may get trade offers. Not convinced Tebow’s a bust or franchise QB, somewhere in between. Coach Fox is overrated – that O was 1 dimensional – they didn’t realize that Tebow actually throws a nice deep ball. Denver’s system made him look bad. It’s in the Jets best interest to showcase his strengths – he doesn’t hit the short quick timing routes that Manning has built a career on. Also -Nobody here has ripped McElroy more than I have but, Lets see what we’ve got one way or the other with GMac too

  189. By GaryC on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Joe,look up the rounds where Unitas,Dawson,Starr were drafted,I know it is a different era but you also mentioned Namath,Bradshaw,Stabler from the same era.Sorry, arm strength is not the top criteria when judging a top flight quarterback.

  190. By joeydefiant on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Comparing McElroy to Pennington is ridiculous. Pennington is ten times the QB that McElroy ever will be. Sanchez is the only viable QB on this team. He has above average arm strength and can make any throw on the field. The problem is that the two OC’s that Sanchez has worked under refuse to make their playbook fit into what he does good and just expect him to make THEIR plays work. Sanchez is a deep ball, shot taking QB. Under ideal circumstances he would be taking 5-10 deep shots down the field every game. Even if he only completes 30% of them thats three deep bomb TD’s every game. It’s not bad throwing 1 INT a game if you are taking shots like that down the field. Running for 2 yards on 1st and 2nd down every series doesn’t help.

  191. By joeydefiant on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    The playcalling on offense is the most predictable I have ever seen. I hated Schotty and can’t believe they actually found someone worse. Under Schotty guys would twirl around before the snap and make themselves dizzy moving back and forth for nothing. Under Sparano 1st and 2nd down consist of running into the back of the center and tackle for 1-2 yards. Then on 3rd and 7 throw a slant to a double covered receiver. 3 and OUT. OVER AND OVER. The playbook is from 1965. No deep double moves or cross patterns. IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN UP THE MIDDLE EVERY PLAY WHY NOT PUT 3 WR OUT WIDE TO MAKE SOME ROOM??? THIS O-LINE CANNOT MOVE 8-9 GUYS OUT OF THE BOX.

  192. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Ron, I know I know exactly where Coral Lakes, nice place. YES, I have read some your posts, I have read Toms, Joe’s, Karens and a few others. One thing we all have in common, we are JET FANS. As bad as they are o0n game day I am rooting for them to win, but alas! the disappointment in ther bad management, bad playing and MS. “GRUDEN AND EDWARDS” article today made sense about TT, if you can go to NewsPress.com fFort Myers, FL and read the article you will see where I am coming from. Both of them feel TT should get some playing time. I agree Jet Players are tired of him being a favorite with the sports writers and that why the players are at this point of bad mouthing him. It’s time to see what he can do behind the center,

  193. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    (Continued) he can not do any worse then MS. I say prove “Gruden and Edwards” wrong. But REX is sold on MS, actually I think the orders to keep MS in come from upstairs. “LETS GO JETS” on Sunday and Thanksgiving Day…

  194. By joeydefiant on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    The Daily News IS a gossip rag. No one with an IQ over 50 reads it. I bet a lot of the regulars here have a lifelong subscription to it like “jets fan since 1857″, “scjoe”, “SCfromNY” and the rest of the crew that are taking out Romney’s loss on Mark Sanchez, Rex Ryan, and Mike Tannebaum.

    Sanchez, Ryan and Tannebaum are all going to be here for a LONG TIME. Get used to it. I’ll be in section 315 with my Sanchez jersey on watching him take us to the Superbowl this year and going 6-1 the rest of the season.

  195. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom of Few Words on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t agree about playing Tebow, 64 Frank, but Cape Coral is a beautiful place to live! Enjoy it!

  196. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Nov 16, 2012 | Reply

    WOW.. Joedefiant. You may be right. But I sure hope not. REX has shown his lack of leadership, as for Sanchez, bench him, as for Mac none of us can say what he will bring to the offense, nor will we til ha gets behind the center. 64 Tom, I’m not that far behind you in TT being the answer, but like 2 very good coahes stated,(GRUDEN and EDWARDS) either he will bust or become trade worthy by giving him some full playing time. As for MS with his record, I do not know of any NFL team that would give up a 4th round pick for him. I feel REX is gone this year along with Sparano and others. In the next 2 games we have the Rams at home, NE at Jersey tough games. Sparano has the nerve to say the offense is improving, Mike Petine says where

  197. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Nov 16, 2012 | Reply

    (Continued) says where full speed ahead. Johnson said he did not sign on to be 3 and 6. Us JET FANS agree with Johnson we expected a better record then this.
    OH WELL!!! I will be in my “recliner” watching this weekends game with high hopes of a JET win and on Thursday I will sitting in my recliner again with a big drum stick in my hand with high hopes of beating NE and cheering on the JETS. Just like the rest of us will. So lets go JETS…

  198. By Eli Rodriguez AKA (RUSS BALL 4 GM) on Nov 16, 2012 | Reply


  199. By Byrdman on Nov 16, 2012 | Reply

    joeydefiant – I’m in michigan and haven’t read a ‘newspaper’ in 10 years LOL print media is a staggering corpse on “the Walking Dead” Sarcasm is appreciated here tho. I’m guessing you’re pouring it on with the Sanchez, Rex, Tbomb comments. Mark’s career here may be salvaged, if he could eliminate the TO’s and bump his comp.% up 8-10 points. Rex writes too many bad checks with his bold declarations and his questionable player talent evaluation. This season ended day one when Rex trotted out the slowest starting LB’s in the NFL his pleading/crying post Seahawk meltdown blew his credibility – Tears are fine if your battling cancer (Pagano) T-bomb’s botched drafts/deals,contracts have driven a stake through the heart of this franchise

  200. By scjoe on Nov 16, 2012 | Reply

    Now I get it! Joeydelusional is a political analyst wannabe! Now that explains a few things, I knew it couldn’t be anything football related just based on his knowledge, or lack there of, of pro football, sports, and being a “real” fan of any given pro team. See ya dude!

  201. By Tom Spicer on Nov 16, 2012 | Reply

    Joeydefiant, I am one of the more positive posters on this site & I can not no matter hoe hard I try to spin it find a way that the Jets win will the Super Bowl this year. Remember they dont have there 2 best players. What do you think is going to change this week that is going to make this team totally turn around & start winning?

  202. By kleckofan on Nov 16, 2012 | Reply

    Agree w those above (Eli, Ron, Spice, SCJoe) who say play McElroy. Yes, the SB is the goal, but let’s evaluate talent in the meantime. Why waste the opportunity to play unknowns. If McE is so horrible why is he on the roster? His remarks last season would have been the ideal time to jettison him.Mark is not getting us there, so we should fold up our tents and sulk?
    Lets move on.
    Joey Defiant- lets not mix politics and sports, except metaphorically. Lets see how you feel about the election when you look at your 2013 W-2.
    Sticking w Sanchez = see Einstein’s quotes on insanity (I know I’ve said it before).

  203. By Joe on Nov 16, 2012 | Reply


  204. By Joe on Nov 16, 2012 | Reply

    Guys having a mom whos cousin was DCORD on MULTIPLE WASHING RED SB WINNING TEAMS i was privy to a little shop talk growing up.The above being said Joe Montanas did have ENOUGH ARM TO MAKE ALL THE THROWS .Manning brothS 3 SB Brady 3 SB Rothesb 2 SB Rogers 1 SB Brees 1 SB The above HAVE WON THE LAST 10SB .Fellas kindly tell me ANY OF THE FOLLOWING WHO CANT MAKE ALL THE THROWS ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD You guys are really reaching with the MCELROY thing THE GUY HAS THE ARM OF A HS QB THATS WHY HE LASTED 5 ROUNDS .

  205. By Joe on Nov 16, 2012 | Reply

    ps You dont have to be Terry Bradshaw or John Elway BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE ALL THE THROWS ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD. Mcelroy CANT DO THA

  206. By Joe on Nov 16, 2012 | Reply

    Eli Rod what iam am saying is FOR AS BAD AS SANCHEZ IS THE OTHER 2 GUYS ARE WORSE (IF THATS POSSIBLE). Eli read the papers as the JET DEF PLAYERS (PRACTICE AGAINST MCELROY ,TEBOW) CLAIM PUBLICALLLY that SANCHEZ GIVES US THE BEST CHANCE TO WIN .Eli i guess you have not been following the uproar ALL THE ABOVE has caused this week.

  207. By Byrdman on Nov 17, 2012 | Reply

    JOE – Greg McElroy is the new Brett Ratliff – 2 or 3 years a go a kid named Ratliff flashed in pre-season against opponents who are selling car insurance today. I have no idea where Brett is, don’t think he’s on any NFL roster. I like G-Mac, glad he’s a backup QB on this team – he’s extremely smart, broke the record on the wonderlic (or close) If Sanchez went down for a couple games, I’m very confident Greg could come in and manage the game, might even win one. Scouting college QB’s as potential NFL stars, backups and busts is NOT an exact science. But, in the modern era “Football Velocity” or arm strength is the closest thing to the YOU MUST BE THIS TALL TO RIDE sign at amusement parks – Greg is just a little shy of that mark.

  208. By ELI RODRIGUEZ AKA (RUSS BALL 4GM) on Nov 17, 2012 | Reply

    Mr. Joe, please read this:: Left guard Matt Slauson, who has repeatedly supported Sanchez, made it clear that the fourth-year signal caller is the Jets’ best quarterback “It’s not even close,” Slauson said. “All the other quarterbacks know it. I have all the confidence in Mark. We don’t really have a choice.”
    When asked about the team’s two other quarterbacks on the depth chart as possible alternatives- Tebow and Greg McElroy —Slauson clarified that the Jets really have only one other quarterback.“We have Greg . . . and we have an athlete,” Slauson said. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/Tebow
    Oops He had to take it back-this is just between M.S and TT.This from a man who was dupe in giving $258,000 back in salary.

  209. By ron alexander on Nov 17, 2012 | Reply

    JOE, again you would have had to read some of my older posts to know this, but i was one of the guys who had concerns about MacElroys arm strength prior to this season. Now, that being said I do think his arm strength is not as bad as you say it is. He was compared to other Q.B’s in his pre-draft scouting reports and there are quite a few Q.B’s playng in the NFL today who had simular reports. Hey, I am not saying he is a future superbowl Q.B. None the less, as Sanchex has regressed to the point of being completely useless,& Tebow is clearly not a long term soloution, why not give the kid a chance to show us what he can do? Armstrength aside, can he be a viable back up? Do we need 1 ot 2 Q.B’s this off season?

  210. By ELI RODRIGUEZ AKA(RUSS BALL 4GM) on Nov 17, 2012 | Reply

    Cont: JOE AGAIN: In the New York Daily News, an unnamed Jets defensive starter gave his view of why Tebow should not start as the Jets quarterback.


  211. By joeydefiant on Nov 19, 2012 | Reply

    You gotta be a real idiot if you think Mason and Plax are gone because “they spoke up against Sanchez”. They were let go because they are OLD and SLOW. If they were so great why did 31 other teams pass on them?

    And Schotty? Comon. Rex just schooled Schotty. Get over him. No matter what Sparano turns out to be, he is an upgrade from Schotty.

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