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Tebow as QB Dominates Rex News Conference

Posted by Randy Lange on November 14, 2012 – 4:01 pm

Update, 5:59 p.m. ET

Rex Ryan could have spoken at length about the St. Louis Rams, the waiving of LB Aaron Maybin or the signing of RB Kahlil Bell. But he wasn’t asked about the Rams and mentioned the transactions only late in today’s news conference.

Mostly reporters wanted to probe the coach’s reactions to a story of named and anonymous team sources in the Daily News on the theme of the quality of Tim Tebow’s play as Mark Sanchez’s backup at QB.

Ryan didn’t deviate from his position on Tebow that he offered back when the Jets traded for him with the Broncos on March 21.

“I’ve said that from day one. We never brought Tim in here to be the starting quarterback,” Ryan said. “We’ve used him in the Wildcat and you saw him throwing the ball [Sunday at Seattle]. Two snaps, 20 snaps, he has done that for us. I recognize the fact that he’s a tremendous football player.

Soon after the trade, Ryan introduced the idea of Tebow working on the punt team. ” ‘You know what? We’d like you to be our personal protector. We think that’s going to give us an advantage in the punting game,’ ” he reformed the statement he made to Tebow at the time. “This might be the best net punting we’ve ever had here, and a lot of that can be attributed to having Tim Tebow as our personal protector.”

As the PP, Tebow has taken three fake-punt snaps, all for first downs. And Robert Malone’s 39.3-yard net punting average, while only 20th among this season’s strong group of NFL punters, would be the best in 47 seasons, or since Curley Johnson registered a 39.7 net for the 1965 Jets that is still the franchise best.

Another main topic was if the anonymous sources quoted in the story indicated that the ’12 Jets were starting to fray as the ’11 Jets did in the second half of the season.

“Did I address it with the team? I absolutely addressed it,” Ryan said. “If you’re not going to put your name on it, I think that’s about as cowardly a thing as there is.

“I don’t think we have the same problem. Even back then I thought it was a little over-exaggerated about the rift in the whole locker room. I do recognize there was something wrong there and I’ve made it my personal agenda to go out and fix it. You can say what you want, but if I’m going to be judged by this team coming together, that’s fine, I’ll be here a long time.”

We’ll post the transcripts of Ryan’s news conference as well as the informal newsers by Sanchez and Tebow at their lockers as they become available early this evening.

The Transactions

On Kahlil Bell and Maybin, Rex said both moves were related to current personnel needs.

“When you look at this roster, I’m not saying [Maybin] won’t be back or anything else,” the coach said. “But you have to do what we always say is in the best interests of our football team. With us having two backs who are questionable injury-wise in Bilal Powell with a concussion and Joe McKnight with an ankle, we felt we needed to bring somebody else in.

“I like Aaron. I love the way he plays. He flies around and does a tremendous job on the practice field. The numbers haven’t been there for him this year. I’m encouraged with the way Ricky Sapp played on Sunday, and I think he showed it on the practice field too.”

Sapp was on the CenturyLink turf for 19 plays, 13 on defense. Maybin got 116 snaps on defense in the first eight games and totaled four tackles, no sacks and nine QB hits, unofficially fourth on the team. He was also in for 90 plays on special teams.

As for Bell, he’s the 6’0″, 219-pound RB out of UCLA who has a healthy 4.5-yard average per carry in his career, but the sample is limited: 131 carries for 589 yards, all in 22 games (three starts) with Chicago in 2009, ’11 and this season. He has one career touchdown, on a 25-yard reception in the Bears’ fall-from-ahead loss to the Seahawks last season. And he had his career-long 72-yard run in his first game as a pro for the Bears vs. the Eagles in 2009.

John Holt, our reporter, will join the locker room scrum to talk with K.Bell following today’s practice for, in case anyone forgot, the Rams game on Sunday in St. Louis.

CB Isaiah Trufant was placed on injured reserve Tuesday after his short-lived reunion with his brothers at CenturyLink Field. Trufant injured his left knee as he and Garrett McIntyre were going for the tackle of Leon Washington at the end of Leon’s opening punt return in the first quarter of Sunday’s game.

Injury Picture Update

The Jets’ injury report after Wednesday’s first full practice of the week:

Did Not Practice — WR Stephen Hill (illness), RB Bilal Powell (concussion). Ryan said Hill was sent home today.

Limited — RB-KR Joe McKnight (ankle), DT Sione Po‘uha (low back/ankle), LB Bart Scott (toe).

Full — TE Jeff Cumberland (wrist), DT Mike DeVito (finger), DT Kenrick Ellis (knee), WR Clyde Gates (shoulder), DT Damon Harrison (thumb), WR Jeremy Kerley (heel), S LaRon Landry (heel), C Nick Mangold (ankle/thumb), G Brandon Moore (hip), LB Calvin Pace (shoulder), QB Mark Sanchez (back), G Matt Slauson (knee), S Eric Smith (knee), QB Tim Tebow (ribs)

Click here for the Jets’ updated injury report each day after 4 p.m. ET.

The Jets have had a longer injury list than any opponent on any day this season, but no foe has had a shorter list than the Rams today. They list only three players, all as limited at today’s workouts near the Arch: WR Austin Pettis (toe), DE Eugene Sims (knee) and S Darian Stewart (knee). All three are backups and only Pettis played in last week’s tie at San Francisco.


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108 Responses to “Tebow as QB Dominates Rex News Conference”

  1. By Frank on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Is anyone surprised? the team is fractured? Really? Gee Wiz we all saw this coming since the end of last season and that is why I advocated firing Rex last year. He is one of the worst head coaches in the league form every view point.
    As for Tebow it is ridiculous for anyone to say he is a horrible QB yada yada but he his a winner! and brings passion to the game something severly lacking on this team. Jamarcus Sanchez is a Zombie out there.
    Secondly Tebow took a horrible Bronco team under Orton and carried the team to the playoffs and beat the Steelers in the playoffs last year two things Sanchize-Not has never done!!!!!!!!
    Play Tebow now!

  2. By Frank on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Does Tebow play ugly? Yes he does…so what he is a winner period end of story. He ia also a natural born leader and elevates the players around him neither of which Jamarcus Sanchez is or does.
    Play Tebow now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  3. By Mike Jet Vet on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Tim was brought here , To be a personal protector, His personal agenda to fix locker room, Finally we picked up Bell for his 4-5 per healthy average, Right And Sanchez will be nominated the hall of frame, Man if i weren’t so disgusted. I would nominate Rex for stand up of the year, Lets start with Tim -T as PP LOLOLOL Good one Rex, $10Million door stop. Next him making it his Personal agenda to fix locker room LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.. Why Rex? did you become Interior designer or Contractor Now on Bell, lets see if Rex plays Bell more then one carry a game….Unless he gains a healthy average if so Rex will cut him or we’ll never hear from again. he wouldn’t want Mike -T to look worse then he already does,

  4. By scjoe on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Just finished listening to Rex’s presser. I have always supported Rex, from day #1 when many are calling for his head. That said, I can honestly say I have not heard that amount of double talk since the October presidential debates. The entire presser just wreaked of double talk. Not a good thing.

  5. By Christopher on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Obviously the cancer still remains in the locker room. Can’t bash a teammate like that, no matter what, no matter how poorly they play, it is unacceptable.

    LT seems to think it is Scott and Cro…I hope Cro is not part of it, I really like him, but if it is true then time to cut bait. Scott will be gone next year anyway, Can’t Wait.

    If the Jets already made up their mind that Tebow is not a starting QB, then bench Sanchez and give McElroy a chance. We have to find out what we have.

    Mike T, Rex, and Sparano all need to go. If I was Woody I would have fired them all heading into the bye week. Rex is a good coach, just not a head coach. He needs to go back to D-Coordinator.

  6. By lou on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Boy this team is falling apart fast. How could anyone on that team rip Tim Tebow who would run through a wall for them. And on top of it doing it, not even having enough guts to put your name on it. Also have to vent about Rex. How could he not even think about starting Tebow or the kid from Alabama. There is NO WAY either one of them can be as bad as Sanchez is right now. I have been a die hard Jets fan for 35 years, but I have to say i am embaressed and very frustrated with this team right now. Mr.Johnson, you have got to make some major moves or else you will be losing ticket sales and die hard fans like myself!

  7. By SCfromNY on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Well, glad to see a new thread. I beleive that if by secret agreement all news media treated Tebow as a back up and player who runs the wildcat occasionally like Brad Smith did a lot of this annoying, un-needed fluff would be eliminated. IF Tebow is such a great person and competitor he should evaluate his situation. He was traded from a team that he took from 1-4 to the playoffs. I’m sure Denver wasn’t concerned about fans wanting Tebow over Manning. His current OC loves the wildcat and he is has little playing time. Many players say he is not an NFL QB. That said Tebow should look in the mirror and consider his options. He runs well but is not a starting RB. He needs to practice catching & blocking to become a TE. QB is over.

  8. By robertpapalia on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    This was very easy to predict. The Jets are going nowhere and now controversey has reared its ugly head. Lest you forget Jets fans, I had predicted a 4 or 5 win season. We are right on schedule for that to happen. If they are lucky they might win 1or 2 more but I doubt that. This team needs a complete revamping from top to bottom including Rex and Tanny. who both need to be shown the door. Rex now sounds like Kotite and Tannenbaum is clueless. We are back to square one before Parcells arrived in 1997. What a nightmare!

  9. By SCfromNY on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Just finished my Jet reading on ESPN/NY/Tebow and something came to mind. The players saying he is terrible can not be without merit. Is he a QB? In college yes. In NFL NO! The list of Hiesman winners who failed in the NFL is a long one. Back to how the HC and OC really feel about Tebow. Watched the very good presser with McElroy going into detail about “playing” Wilson on scout team. It took a while BUT doesn’t the backup QB usually run the scout team? It gives him snaps that he can not get with the 1rst team. I have to wonder if Tebow is not good enough to run the scout team then perhaps he shouldn’ be the backup. Again i am not putting McElroy in the HOF but before we release him and he goes to HOF for another team we need to know.

  10. By Karan on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Looking into next season, the Jets must absolutely re-sign:
    LaRon Landry
    Dustin Keller
    Brandon Moore

    Now, as for other important players you should really consider re-signing:
    Matt Slauson *
    Nick Folk (I’m shocked even typing this one but he’s been good this year)
    Austin Howard *
    Isaiah Trufant *
    Tanner Purdum (As you can see, I’m considering everyone)
    Mike DeVito
    Josh Mauga
    Lex Hilliard

    * = bit more important

  11. By Karan on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Respect the veterans on this team but its time to cut ties with Calvin Pace, Bryan Thomas and Bart Scott. We need younger linebackers, Demario should be a good replacement for Scott and David Harris will continue to be an awesome tackler. We seriously need a pass rusher. I don’t understand why Tannenbaum interfered when Rex was set on Chandler Jones during the draft. I like Coples but we really need a legit OLB. Wish we had guys like Von Miller or Aldon Smith on this roster.

  12. By dr. steve brule on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Tim Tebow is famous for two firsts in NFL history and they wont likely ever be taken away, no matter what people say or try to do.

    1. He took a failing franchise into the playoffs and won a game. Then got fired.

    2. Became the first backup quarterback in the history of the NFL to be blamed for the starters ineptitude.

    If anyone really thinks tebow is going to fracture a lockerroom they need the brain examined. You wont find a single NFL player that will call Tebow a bad team mate. He may not be a good quarterback. And he may not be the answer for the Jets.

    But dont say he is the problem.

  13. By Karan on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Cut ties with Shonn Greene and Chaz Schilens as soon as the season ends. Heck, do it right now.

  14. By Joe on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Lets all look at the TEBOW DEBACLE REALISTICALLY. John Elway (one of the GREATEST QBS EVER )was kind enough to GIVE TEBOW TO US. Elway (who once again MAY know a thing or two about quarterbacking )didnt even want TEBOW there to back up his 38 year old qb (WHO HAPPENED TO BE COMING OF 2 BIG TIME NECK OPERATIONS )Whose judgement of talent do we trust ELWAY (WITH HOW MANY SB -PLAYOFF WINS )OR MIKE T (GHOLSTEN ,SANCHEZ WILSON DUCCA ECT )If Tebow was brought here to sell advertising dollars fine BUT ONE THING WE DO KNOW HES NOT A LEG NFL STARTER

  15. By Bennett on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Me and Spicer butted heads over Sanchez for months, circumstances this season changed his mind, he’s not hiding, he’s on the site open to shots, as opionated as always. I defended Rex against people who said his big mouth and buddy, buddy leadership style would backfire. It did. I was wrong. There were even a few on this site that thought T-Baum was a good GM. Where are they now?

  16. By Bennett on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Man I don’t want to watch Sanchez next week but I think Ron Alexander sumed up Tebow pretty good on the last thread. It ain’t going to be like Denver last year if the put him in as starter. And MacElroy’s got a snowball shot in — to get the nod. Going to be a long ugly season if the Rams win…. Been there before …long and ugly…

  17. By MIKE on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Rex does/t think he will loose his locker room eh. News flash Rex, this locker room has been a getting worse since you got. here. Rex knows defence, but is way over his head as a head coach.

    He have all enjoyed the success of his first 2 seasons and some were excited about Sanchez/s play, but you had to be an idiot to think that this wasn’t going to happen. Signing like Pace, Scott, Sanchez, Tebow, Draft picks Ducasse and Connor. These were horrible moves.

  18. By Jack on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Here we go again Jets are right back where they left off from last season with the trash’s talking in the locker room and on tweeter. If I was the owner of this team I would want to know who post those remarks on tweeter. I have some idea who they were and I’m sure Woody and Tanny & Rex knows as well who those players are. I would release them and try to make a some trades for them just get them out of town they aren’t the kinda of players you want on your teams.

  19. By John N on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    I am sorry but Tim Tebow should stop being MR nice guy and refuse to play another down. He has no real team mates just backstabbers who are the ones letting us fans down. The Jets would be better off losing the rest of their games and get rid of every one and start over. Please Tim Tebow tell the Jets to pound sand.

  20. By russ on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Wilkerson picked up a fumble courtesy of Mike Devito and ran for a touchdown. What I noticed that his girth is not that of a protypical defensive end. Most like Deacon Jones Joe Green Mark Gastineau, Alex Haley, Jason pierre Paul etc are slim wasted abale to pivot faster to make a pass rush possible…Apparently this goes unnoticed by the Jets at draft time Also Kendal and Faneca today are better than Slauson and Ducasse inblocking,power blocking and running the sweep plays…something the Jets have lacked since their retirement. Even Mawae could hike pivot and run a sweep which Mangold does not seem to accomplish. this is why there is no ground and pound and this is why your quarterback makesdesperate passes and fumbles under pressure

  21. By Alex on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    As a fellow die hard fan i too am very frustrated with this team. I truly am upset that i forked out the 60 + dollars for a jets winter hat and scarf because here in Michigan i truly now feel like a joke if i wear them to support my favorite team. i dont know the answer for the teams but i just want change and i want some class and dignity. Tim T keep your head up and thank you for showing class this whole year, i never much was a fan of you till this year and i now know why you get some much support and have such a huge fan base..

  22. By since shea on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    It seems that the wheels have fallen off completely and, sadly, time again for the same old full make over. You mean to tell me that we cant have a successful regime that can last more than 3 or 4 years before busting it up and starting over? We have been doing that every 3 or 4 yrs since the 70″s! And with the guaranteed money that some of you guys are talking about, it sounds like we are doomed for next year too? Is that why Mr T keeps going to the scrap heap for guys to fill holes? No money left for real talent? No wonder why we cant catch, throw, run or block! We are fielding a bunch of rejects and castoffs from other teams! Where do you begin again? An Elway type to call the shots , GM etc? Truly a circus.

  23. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom of Few Words on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Frank, Tebow won a few key games on a DEN team with a great D and better RBs and WRS than we have now, so I wouldn’t get too excited. Of course, we got nothing to lose by playing him since we’re going nowhere this yr. If Rex and whoever else in Florham Park could just admit Sanchez might be a bust, we could split the rest of the yr between TT and Mc at QB, see what we’ve got, and prepare to make some smart, forward-looking moves at QB next yr. But that would make too much sense and would involve admitting to mistakes, better to keep wasting time on talk about the playoffs…

  24. By Eli Rodriguez AKA (RUSS BALL 4 GM) on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    THIS TEBOW THING–THEY ARE SIMPLY LOOKING FOR A SCAPEGOAT FOR A LOUSY YEAR–LETS NOT READ TO MUCH INTO IT………………………

  25. By joeydefiant on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    Woody Johnson and I would like to say to all you old internet blowhards on here acting out that Grumpy Old Men movie: Don’t let the door hit you on your way out!!! Sell your tickets and your LOGOS.

    We don’t need your dusty old money anyway…

  26. By Another Tom on Nov 14, 2012 | Reply

    I continue to watch the Jet games this year to see if young players are developing …and to finally see MS benched ! I no longer expect victorys…or even competitiveness..Are we on the clock yet?

  27. By Keith Beckett on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Going into the season my expectations for this group were not very high. Considering the way last season ended the worst move you could make would be acquiring celebrity b/u QB T. Tebow. The team had so many needs that were more pressing(WR/TE/OL/RB/LB and S), most of these problems still need improvement before the person playing QB will have a chance to show his true value.
    In short, GM M. Tannenbaum has dismantled a championship roster in less than two seasons. His moves are wrong more often than they are right and that is never good. He trades up in nearly every draft which has now revealed a roster with razor thin talent due to injuries. I would start fixing the Jets by replacing the GM who has the team in cap trouble too.

  28. By punchie on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    BART SCOTT you can see scott say something like TRYING TO HIT YA BOY AGAIN HUH. I feel sick watching this SANCHEZ needs some bench time it`s hard to say it but thats the way it is any owner GM, HEAD COACH SHOULD SEE HIS TOTAL LACK OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS PATHETIC AND FAVOURED PLAY. sorry bout all the caps but i`m one dissolusioned fan.

  29. By punchie on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    I just heard from an un named source that it is KELLER and GREEN doin the bashing

  30. By IRA on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    I feel real bad for Tebow because he doesn’t deserve this its a shame the so called player or players weren’t man enough to put their names behind the quotes.
    All i care about is that they play the Rams this week and hope the players can focus on getting a win.
    Greene should worry more about his performance this year than making any QB changes.

  31. By Randy Lange on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    To Ira and others who read Mike Silver’s Yahoo Sports piece, we’re told that Shonn Greene is adamant that the “change” he was referring to was from losing to winning, not a change at QB. Greene said he plans to clear this up during his locker room availability today.

  32. By carl on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    WHAT A MESS!!! GO JETS?

  33. By Belligerent Blinka on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Everyone is clueless:
    This Tebow crap from day one is 99.9% media driven. From the idiots on radio who quote the double idiot beat writers. I stopped reading and listening and watch the press conferences.
    The jets traded for a backup QB who can add a few wrinkles. THAT IS IT.
    The starting QB is the problem. You want to blame it tebow coming in and out? Go ahead morons, your wrong. Sanchez stunk last year too, WITH healty wideouts.
    If Sanchez played mediorcre not terrible……NO TEBOW ISSUE.
    Blame the Defense? Show me one great defense who also has a QB coughing up the ball so much.
    JEESH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  34. By Frank on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Keith there is no doubt the drafts since Rex showed up have been abysmal just like the idiotic attempt at Asomuagha all of the personel decisions made with Rex have seen a serious down grade of talent. Every GM tries to get the players the coach wants for his program. Mangini was a lousy coach but he had a great eye for talent and the roster he put together si what Rex won with. Rex’s first year if the Colts don’t default the game at the end of the season Rex finishes 8-8 and misses the playoffs. Rex has been lucky and I said it at the end of last season we have been playing fools gold with Rex. He is an embarrassment and a lousy leader its just that simple.
    All great leaders and men of character admit mistakes and make the adjustments.

  35. By Frank on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Jamarcus Sanchez has been the worst QB in the NFL over the last 12 games and Rex can’t admit its time to bench him. What is truely astonishing is that he won’t even call him out. He continues to blindly support him and coddle him which is exactly is the propblem here makig things worse.
    Listening to Carrols remarks at the end of the game saying Sanchez is bewildered why Tebow is here sheds the true light on this mess. If TanWoody didn’t intend to play or put pressure on Sanchez in the event he faulters like he did they should have never brought him here in the first place.
    This organization is a complete mess from top to bottom.

  36. By Chicago Bob on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    For those who are calling for Rex’s head, in your future comments give your choice on HC – its easy to say fire someone however follow that up with your choice to replace him. There is not much out there – being a HC in the NFL is no easy task. I am not saying I condone Rex’s style however unless Cowher or Gruden are available, not sure who you are going to get that would be better. One thing is for sure, they need to seriously consider a new G.M. with someone from an organization that has a history of drafting well. We are headed for a top 10 (if not 5) pick and I don’t think you want Mike T. handling that pick. The contracts he has handed out have put this team in a salary cap mess and he has proven not to be the best judge of talent

  37. By Mike Jet Vet on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    , Here’s my take on Tim Tebow, as some have said man is a trooper, granted, none here can say he will become Elite even a winner, Had success in College some in NFL. Elway wanted PM for same reason Mike-T go’s after all these Has beens from other teams, Only his has been worked out along with his solid draft picks, What I for one know 4 sure we’ll never know without giving him a fair shot, I think all these players should shut their Mouths, get on the practice field, after apologizing to fans, Owner, and Coaches, and start earning their $$$,. 90% of these players aren’t playing up to standard of a professional team, Let alone run their mouths faster than their feet, Both TT and Gmac need a look, us fans deserve that much

  38. By Bennett on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Lets be kind and say that anyone could see after last year that Sanchez’s future as a starter in the NFL was “uncertain ” A smart GM, no not even a smart GM but any GM would realize this and begin to plan for the eventuality that he is not going to cut it. Any GM must always also plan for the real possibility of season ending injury. Our GM extends this QB with the “uncertain” future with an extension that has huge guar. money and an untradeable price tag way beyond his proven skill set. What some would say was inevitable has come to pass sooner rather than later and there is “no viable option ” This is beyond incompetant, it boarders on the bizzare and gives new meaning to the word unfit.

  39. By Tom Spicer on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    I was a pro Rex guy. I thought he was a great defensive mind & that players liked playing for him. I did not mind that he did not know anything about O. Most head coaches are former co ordinators who specialize in 1 side of the ball. What they do is hire a guy who is expericnced & proven in what it is they do on the other side. First Rex talked alot & I was okay with that as long as you can back it up & win. The old saying is dont talk the talk if you cant walk the walk! Also he had the chance to bring in a proven OC this offseason & he brought in Sparano a guy who has never been a OC before. Finally after last year he said I dont know how good our team will be but I am 100% certain that we will not have in fighting & be a better teamates

  40. By Tom Spicer on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    to each other. Well the 1 thing he PROMISED would happen he did not deliver on. I have been a Rex supporter up until this point but at this time I think it is time to move on. We need a head coach who is a former OC the NFL with there current rules is all O based. You can not hit the QB high, you can not hit the QB low, you can not touch the WR after 5 yards. Everything is passing / high scoring based that is what we have to move towards.

  41. By russ on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    All of you fire Shotty people will see him this week good luck…

  42. By MrJetGreen on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    It is time to start Tebow or fire Ryan……….one or the other if not both. Jets fans are tired of losing with Sanchez. Mark will be a quality backup.

  43. By Tom Spicer on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Because of what has happened this year I now think Rex should go. But even before this year started I said MR.T should go. 1 His drafting track record is not good. Gholston, Wilson, Sanchez, Greene & Ducasse (do i need to keep going). 2 I was happy with some of his trades when they happened but in the end they ultimately did not work out. Trading up for Sanchez, Greene, giving up valueable draft picks for players liek Braylon than not signing them when there contract is up. If you do not intend on signing a guy long term after trading for them. Dont bother to trade for them right? Take those picks & get players! To the failed free agent sigings like Pace to the bad personel decsions like letting Braylon, Cotchery, Woody & Faneca go. Than

  44. By Tom Spicer on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    trying to replace those guys with the likes of Wayne Hunter, Ducasse, “Stone hands” Mason & Plastico “I am washed up ” Burris. To finally the terrible contracts that he has handed out that has this team in cap hell we are in. We owe Holmes & Sanchez tons of guareented money that makes they have a 100% chance of being back. Was the cap not supposed to be MR.T’S specialty? The Jets need to bring in a experinced GM a football guy not a capologist!

  45. By Tom Spicer on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    To add to my above post the new GM has to value draft picks & do 1 of 3 things 1 stay where he is & not trade up 2 trade down & get more picks or 3 if he does trade picks it better be to acquire a player long term & not as a 1 or 2 year rental!

  46. By GaryC on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    the little children are crying in their cheerios because Tebow is getting all the air time,through no fault of his own,BAA BAA.Typical spoiled elitists who cannot have what they want.

  47. By Tom Spicer on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Randy, I can not wait to hear what Shonne Greene has to say today cause if he does not clear some things up I have alot to say about him. The Jets 3 biggest problems are 1 QB 2 RB & 3 pass rush. Greene is the LAST person that needs to be talking!

  48. By GaryC on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    To Russ,you make an excellent point concerning Mangold,too many fans rate him like he is the next Mike Webster,Mwae could pull better then Mangold could dream of.Fabini,Jenkins,Mwae,Thomas,and McKenzie and Ryan Young was the best jet line in years.

  49. By GaryC on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    With the jet locker room,the turncoats will be found out eventually,a little like the mob.this one rats on this one and so on,and you have your answer.

  50. By SCfromNY on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    I the beginning I was a big Rex supporter. Sadly that has gone down hill fast. I don’t know if his decisions are his or sent down from the top. If they are down from the top I feel bad for him. The FO making him a joke by continuing to play people who should be on the bench or cut. If it is all Rex well . . . I guess some co-ordinaters are just not HC material. He looks defeated and frustrated. Next year, which considering saleries, will be a rebuilding year I would like to see Tanny gone, scouts replaced, OC gone, QB coach gone, strenght coach gone, and see how Rex does on his own. Dump the underperforming players now starting with Sanchez. We will not have much money but can look at a lot of players for 2014. Look what Indy did this year.

  51. By Tom Spicer on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Thou I do not think that Tebow is the long term answer at QB. I also totally disagree with Frank about Tebow making the players around him better. Tebow was put into the perfect setting. 1 They totally changed there O to fit his skill set. 2 With Holmes out we do nto have a Thomas or Decker on this roster 3 Greene is no McGahee thats for sure. 4 We do not have close to the pass rush Denver has with Vin Miller & Elvis Dumervil 5 With Revis out there secondary with Champ Bailey & Brain Dawkins is better than ours. Dont get me wrong I think we should play Tebow but he would have NONE of the things with us that he had going for him lat year & I think he wouild get EXPOSED BIG TIME!

  52. By Westcoast GangGreen on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Jet Nation.. Everyone has good points, like fire Rex, Mr T and the new O.C. But!!! Nothing will change because the main guy is the one behind all of this..”Mr. Woody Johnson himself”. He hired all the above guys so he thinks everything is ok. He has to give finale approval to draft picks, player movement ect ect so he trust whatever Mr T and Rex tell him. And i recall it was Woody who wanted Tebow in the first place, for headlines since their co-tenants just won another S-Bowl. It starts at the very top, Period!! Unless he changes his strategy on how to run an organization we long suffering bleeding GREEN Jet fans will continue to see dysfuctional season after season. The talent is dwindling, the talent debt is gone… cont

  53. By Westcoast GangGreen on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    …cont the locker room expoded again under Rex, and the is splitting up as the season goes. Losing will do that, and at this rate they will be a lot of losing before it gets better. And, it starts with Woody…!!!

  54. By Bennett on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Many anonymous players ripping their own team mate to the media that just hungers for it. A Head Coach who just called his players cowards. Anonymous front ofiice types calling the recievers high school quality… classic meltdown, totally disfunctional organization. The owner has only one coarse open to him now….clean house everyone from the GM and the office types and on down the line to include the locker room at the end of this season. See what kind of young talent you do have to build on by playing them. Get the best HC and GM out there and lets rebuild…. once again

  55. By kw65fan on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Thanks Randy…told you guys in previous post..this munesh guy at the News is pure trouble. He wrote garbage last year witn “un-named’ source…wrote garbage articles whe Tebow came on in trying to cause trouble…and now this again by Munesh…’un-named’ sources. And slausons quote was something he said 3-4 months ago. And now taking Greene words and blowing it up. This guy knows nothing about Football…probably doesn’t know what it looks like…and just causes garbage. You ever see Randy or Eric say “My ‘unanmed source”….NEVER. I thought Cimini was bad…but this guy is garbage…true fabricator….

  56. By Bennett on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    The pundits have alredy declared that you have to be at the very least 6′ 2″ to play QB in the NFL. So forget McElroy at 6′ he is unfit, shouldn’t even been aloud in the draft in the first place

  57. By Tom Spicer on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    What the Jets are missing is Tebow is not a good practice player. So what they see from him on a daily basis is not what they are going to get in a game situation. While again I do not think he is the long term answer I do think if the Jets want / have any hope of rallying to make a run at the playoffs they should play him. 1st what ever confidence Mark Sanchez had is totally shot as a QB you have to have confidence. Also teams rally around new QB’S when they are put in. As far as Tebow the running game would be better cause he is a threat to run the ball. Greene would do a little better cause other teams would be so worried about Tebow running the ball that would free up Greene a little. Also when Tebow drops back to pass & nothing is open

  58. By Tom Spicer on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    he is a threat to run the ball out of the pocket. Lastly the longer drives based off of a better running game will have the D on the field less so they should do better spending less time on the field. Not that I think we can win a Super Bowl with this guy but I think at this point it would be slightly better & we can get the process started now of the front office seeing the he is not the guy & we can ultimatley move on to hopefully drafting a franchise QB!

  59. By GaryC on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Isn’t it funny in todays football,you can have animal abusers,gun toters in your locker room but a guy who is all for the team and shuts his mouth he is a problem.

  60. By Karan on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    I feel bad for Tim, heck for both QBs. Both have been on the end of being backstabbed by teammates in recent memory. Tebow, like 2 days ago and Sanchez last season. Both QBs have nothing working for them, I’ll tell you one thing, if both QBs were to be starters someplace else, they will be more successful there than they are at the current time. This organization is just a mess. These players need to stop being backstabbers. Tebow is a great kid and has done nothing wrong and he’s suddenly a scapegoat. Tebow, I want you to succedd but you will not find success here, please go to Jacksonville or someplace else where you will used properly. He doesn’t have to be the QB but at least use him as a weapon here Jets! As for Sanchez, he’s been…..

  61. By Karan on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    ……horrible the last couple of games. But still, I stand behind him, why?? The guy has NO weapons! As a Jets official said, “its garbage” what he is throwing to. Kerley and Keller as not enough, we need more guys to be consistent like those two. Shonn Greene said recently a change needs to be made and hinted at the QB position. No Greene, the real change that needs to be made is at RB. The guy can barely get 2 yards out of a carry. I hope they cut him next season. Joe McKnight needs to start, he’s fast and needs more experience at running the ball. The guy has potential but this organization does not realize it. Greene and these Schilens like receivers need to be cut or released immediately Thats the CHANGE that this offense needs now.

  62. By barker on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    JETS, please release Tebow so that NE will pick him up and he can learn from a real QB and a real coach. Sanchez is better in practice? So what, if it doesn’t show at game time than what difference does it make? When the lights are on and the pressure is high that is when Tebow performs not at practice. Rex and Co. are waiting until the NE game to throw Tebow in and when or if he doesn’t do well he will say see I told you Mark was the better choice. Just a bunch of crap!

  63. By barker on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    The comments by the players and staff are the same kind of crap that they said last year about Sanchez. Guess what he is still being babied and not being held accountable for his poor play. He can play as bad as he wants to and doesn’t have to worry about being benched because Rex doesn’t want to admit he was wrong about his golden child.

  64. By Lisa M on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t understand why we always have to be media spot light. First, why aren’t we holding upper management accountable for anything. Was it not, Mike T who brought in our new offiensive coordinator Who is AWFUL. Mike T has been making bad decisions for quite some time.I used to be pro Rex and I still like Rex but I don’t think he could do what he wants with Mike T at the realm of GM. As far as Sanchez, saying “he feels sorry for tebow” man up and tell the team he is PART of the PROBLEM as a leader admit your own faults. I feel sorry that Tebow is the scape goat. I will always love the JETS but I don’t think the owner nor theGM really care what we the fans think.

  65. By GaryC on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Rex,play McElroy or you will have another Woodhead scenario.would you want that on your conscience again,Fool me once,Fool me twice.

  66. By Tyler on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Hey rex y don’t you pull your tail from between your legs and let the hiesman trophy winner try to do what he did in denver. u not gonna win crap with mark under center as you can c the past couple season, if u don’t make a change at QB to try win some more games i think they willl be doing a change at head coach..TEBOW=WINS GAMES

  67. By scjoe on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Belligerent Blinka nailed it! If Mark Sanchez played at least somewhat like a pro, we would never hear the name Tim Tebow. The fact that they brought him in to be a b/u QB and occasionally run the wildcat would have been a non factor. But, since Mark Sanchez has played horrific all season, we have a full fledged QB controversy, even though we don’t even have one average pro QB.

  68. By Mike Jet Vet on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Bennett. I understand your point I’ve said the same, But, being Gmac is here taking up a roster spot. big time winner in college,Sanchez playing horribly, We owe it to the fans in seeing what we have, lets put it this way, Imagine if Drew Brees never got his shot, New Orleans would be without a SB to date , This Kid Wilson on Seattle looks like the real deal he’s like 5-11… K65Fan, GaryC good points I agree…,Joeydefiant ..FYI I’m betting right about now many of us old Blowhards who’ve supported Woody over the years would love to sell and bow out . My son wants to sell his season tickets, ask Woody if he’ll give back his money, or Maybe you could buy them, who’s the blowhard now, Keep drinking the Kool aid

  69. By scjoe on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Belligerent Blinka was also spot on re: the WRs. For a “real” pro QB, seperation really don’t need to be any more then 12 to 18 inch’s, the WR don’t always have to be “wide open” for a pro QB. A passer with any kind of accuracy will get it done with that limited seperation. Mark Sanchez can not. THAT is the problem, not the WRs. How would anyone rate the WRs in Miami? How is that rookie over there doing so far? An even better question, where do you think he will be in his 4th year?

  70. By Chicago Bob on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    If anyone here is still a Schotty supporter, hopefully you watched the end of the 49er / Ram game. When the Rams had the ball in OT on a 3rd and 2, Schotty did what he has done for years – be predictable and conservative and call a basic run play. Sure enough, they got stoned and were forced to go for a field goal. Then, they took too much time to get the kick off and what was initially the game winning field goal, had to be kicked again from 5 yards back and was no good. He is still the same, very predictable and unorganized. Whether or not Sparano works out, getting rid of Schotty was the right thing to do. Why do you think the only job Schotty was offered prior to the Ram job was a college coordinator position?

  71. By Viveca on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Iit starts with Woody. Our owner seems more interested in making head lines and selling tickets than building a winning team. In time it will back fire. Maybe he’ll wake up when he sees an empty stadium The fans are sick and tired of being treated like fools. Sell the team to someone who’s serious about winning. How many times do we have to start over?

  72. By kenny on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Bring back Scotty much better than the offensive coordinator. Give thrid string QB a chance to lead this team. We will never go any where with this coaching staff or these players. Please Mr Johnsons clean house!!!!! I have been waiting since 69 for this team to win.How much longer?

  73. By kw65fan on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    You know who is smiling at all this…WOODY…his little gem is in the headlines again…probably loving every minute of it. I don’t feel sorry for Tebow at all…he brought this on himself. He should have said NO way back when and go to the Jags. Radio guy on ESPN said Tebow wanted it. where else to get the big spot light but New York. WHAT OTHER TEAM IN THE NFL HAS THE BACK-UP QB IS UP ON STAGE ON A WEEKLY BASIS FOR INTERVIEWS. Get real people…WOODY said to do it…get the spot light. This team is a JOKE and it starts with WOODY and Mr. T his YES man. We talk about change with the coaches…NO…starts with the OWNER…SELL THE TEAM to a owner that cares. Watch and see, that guy in Cleveland will have Browns built into machine.

  74. By richie on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    The Jets have been through this before. Coaches are hired and after a promising year or two, the front office drafts or trades for fewer talented players. The management then throws their hands up and blames the coach for the lack of winning even though the coach has less tools with which to work. Had the management retained the offensive and defensive lines of 2009 and 2010 the Jets would have many more wins. This management is like previous owners. They have not retained good talent. Tebow was Woody Johnson’s idea and he imposed it on Ryan. There is no other explanation as to the lack of Tebow’s use by Ryan. I’m a season ticketholder since year one (1965) and I’ve seen this before by successive owners.

  75. By Bennett on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    I was a fire Schotty guy. In reality he quickly realized what he had in Sanchez and tailored an offense to his short comings ( and in hindsight with great success ). It now becomes apparent why the TE was such a sucessfull and popular target for Sanchez the first 2 yrs. Only when Schotty was forced to take the leash off in the 3rd year did the real and vast weakness of this QB become exposed. Sanchez is for various reasons ( enumerated many times) a very ineffective, even awfull medium to deep passer and a very poor pocket QB.. Schotty had the wisdom to quickly realize that unleashed he was a loose cannon, a human turnover machine and sack magnet in a longer passing based offense. Schotty I apologize,

  76. By Joe on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    LISA M were in the MEDIA SPOTLIGHT BECAUSE THE LAST TIME I CHECKED NY WAS THE MEDIA CENTER OF THE WORLD.On top of that we have a COACH WHO BRAGS, BOASTS AND GUARANTEES SUPER BOWL VICTORYS THAT NEVER HAPPEN .On top of that we have an OWNER WHO WILL DO ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING TO DRAW ATTENTION FROM THE GIANTS (HENCE TIM TEBOW) Lisa this is PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL when a TEAM IS PAID TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND LOSES PROBLEMS ARISE its that simple.If the JETS WERE WINNING NONE OF IT WOULD MATTER.

  77. By Bennett on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Sanchez is better at practice because he knows he can’t get hit. Put him in a game and it is a whole different player out there. Reverse for Tebow probably bad in a structured practice put him in a wide open physical game he would probably thrive on it. Big, tough, and no fear.

  78. By Karan on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    The CORE of this team was torn apart early in the 2011 offseason and here the Jets stand today because of it, broken.

  79. By Stevesc on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Karan, your point about MC not having any weapons is ligit… That being said, it doesn’t account for him under throwing, over throwing, throwing behind or just not seeing wide open receivers. He doesn’t protect the ball, has no pocket presence, and makes the same mistakes over and over. And it’s not just the last couple of games as you say. It started last season and has continued to the present. Not bashing you, just saying you may be giving him too much benefit of the doubt as does this whole organization, for what ever reason. Also, Powell and Mcknight are injured, so getting rid of Greene now would not be wise, as they just picked up Bell to fill in while getting rid of Maybin.

  80. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom of Few Words on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    I see joeythedefiantloser is back, defending Woody Johnson though he has no plan for the team and dumping on fans who actually want the Jets to be something other than pathetic. Way to go, joey, keep on rockin’ in the loser Jet world! Reminds me of those great Dylan lines on “Visions of Johanna”, “Little boy lost, he takes himself so seriously/He brags of his misery, he likes to live dangerously.” Poor Joey doesn’t know that when you’ve watched football for more than a few yrs, and maybe even played and coached it, it’s possible to envision your team winning a championship…or maybe even to remember the last time it won one…

  81. By scjoe on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Re: Brian Shottenheimer, I went on record last season stating that the problem with the NY Jets offense is not on the OC, but rather on the QB. I also stated that it wouldn’t really matter who they brought in as OC, it would not help correct the multitude of problems Sanchez has as a QB. That came to fruition. That said, that is not an endorsement for Brian Shottenheimer being a world class OC, just a statement to acknowledge where the actual problem was, and still is!

  82. By harry-o on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    replacing MS while he is healthy
    the jets organization will be admitting he’s becoming a bust

    that won’t happen, they would rather lose every game than admit that,
    it will take an injury for them to make a QB change
    and start the exiting process for MS

    til then expect the same ‘ol post game news conference
    “we have to get better, we must play smarter, blah, blah, blah”
    how about the QB has to play better, the QB has to play smarter,

    you can’t fix the whole team right now
    just fix one position start w/ the QB

  83. By Joe on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Karen there was no core EVER AS THE TEAM HAS NOT WON ANYTHING IN 44 YEARS People on this site act like the 78 Steelers were broken apart. A few years ago the team was a good competitive OVERACHIEVING team,IT WAS IN NO WAY A CHAMPIONSHIP CALIBER TEAM AND THE RECORD REFLECTS THIS .In REXS tenure here he has not won a title of any kind.The bar is set so low for this organization its pathethic . Fans delighted that we advanced to 2 straight AFC TITLES GAMES ALWAYS FORGET THE MOST IMPORTANT THING =WE LOST 2 STRAIGHT AFC TITLE GAMES lOMBARDI once said SECOND PLACE IS FIRST LOSER (WE DIDNT EVEN MAKE SECOND PLACE )HE ALSO SAID SHOW ME A GOOD LOSER AND I WILL SHOW YOU A LOSER.The above apparently doesnt apply to the NY JETS.

  84. By Joe on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    JOET DEFIANT question for you ,HOW MANY OF THE NY JET PLAYERS ARE TURNING DOWN THEIR MULTI MILLION DOLLAR SALARYS .Its ok for the JET PLAYERS TO ACCEPT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BE ONE OF THE WORST TEAMS IN THE NFL but its not ok for the fans (who indirectly pay those salarys) to voice displeasure about a LOSING TEAM Joey you act like were commentating about some NON SCH D-3 COLLEGE TEAM HERE Nfl PLAYERS are paid to do nothing but win the SB THATS IT .When and if the players start winning the criticism will stop

  85. By Belligerent Blinka on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Scjoe,
    Thanks for caring. I try to tell it like it is.
    Is Woody Johnson clueless? Yes
    Is Rex over confident and have a big mouth? Yes.
    But as I wrote above, Sanchez plays like a #16 QB instead of a #32 QB
    We are not having this conversation. Period!

  86. By AZ JET Fan on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    Sometimes I wonder how or why I am Jet fan? I grew up in NY and all my family and friends a Giants fans, but somehow I am a Jet fan. They have 4 Subper Bowls in 25 years. When the hell are we going to get it toghethr?
    Maybe Sunday against the Yams.

  87. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom of Few Words on Nov 15, 2012 | Reply

    And so picking up Tebow turns out to be a disaster for both QBs and for the team at large, on the field and off…just like some of us old vets who’ve watched the Jets flail for yrs at trying to grab headlines from the much better team that plays in the same ugly stadium predicted it would. It’s fans like joeydefoolish who are part of what’s wrong with this franchise, not those of us who could run the place better than Woody, Mr T, and Rex ever could. Reminds me of the next lines of the Dylan song: “He’s sure got a lot of gall/To be so useless and all…”

  88. By Jake on Nov 16, 2012 | Reply

    Frank, do you not remember Sanchez beating the 14-2 Chargers in the playoffs, or beating Peyton Manning at home in the play-offs, or best yet beating Tom Brady in Gillette Stadium, something Tebow time has never done. I’m not defending Sanchez as today’s QB, but I am saying we need to give the credit to the kid for what he has done in the past, it’s unfair to just ignore it. I’m not sure what has happened to him but after being present at Centurylink field last Sunday, Sanchez doesn’t even look like a 3rd string QB out there. after this diplorable season is over we look a either Fress agency, the draft, or Greg McClroy, either way the experiment with #6 has to end. I hate to talk bad about him, he seems like a very good guy either way.

  89. By joeydefiant on Nov 16, 2012 | Reply

    Oh boy Mr Spicer I bet Shonn Greene is really worried that if he doesn’t clear things up you will have a lot to say about him… And when you say “We owe a lot of money to Sanchez and Holmes”, are you a minority owner of the Jets?

  90. By joeydefiant on Nov 16, 2012 | Reply

    If you guys send me $5,000 bux I’ll put up a McElroy billboard on Rt 17 in jersey. For 50k I’ll fly a helicopter over MetLife with a McElroy sign on the back.

  91. By Tebowssss on Nov 16, 2012 | Reply

    If you will not use Tebow just trade him in other team. I want to see him playing not coaching.

  92. By JetBlue on Nov 16, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer: I’ve read all of your posts. You defended Rex & Marky Mark up until about two weeks ago. If you knew anything about football, you would have seen early on that Rex got lost in his own promises, and MS was a bad, failed 1st round pick. But since you post more than I do, you must be really smart. Tell me, did you even watch MS as a Junior at USC? I did, and I wasn’t impressed. Even so, we picked him and I wanted him to succeed as much as any Jet Fan. But it didn’t take more than two seasons to know he was not the guy. In hind-sight, we should have used our 1st round pick, #17, to select Josh Freeman and then use the picks we traded away to get MS to build the offense around Freeman. Chill Buddy. It’s still just a game.

  93. By Tom Spicer on Nov 16, 2012 | Reply

    Joeydefiant, I wrote that statement because Shonee Greene may be the worst starting RB in the entire NFL. He should be the last guy on the team talking about anybody. I know Shonne Greene is not worried about anything that I have to say but he should be worried about this. He is a free agent after this season & the way he is playing he will either be the backup RB for the Jets or the back up on another team (cause no team would sign him as there starter) or not be on the Jets next year at all. He might even be out of the league or on someones practice squad!

  94. By Tom Spicer on Nov 16, 2012 | Reply

    Joeydefiant, I paid $5,000 for my PSL’S plus I pay about $2,700 a year for my tickets. So thou I may not be a minority owner of the Jets I spend my hard earned money on this team & I am entitled to vent my dis pleasure with this team who has never mind WON has not even MADE a Super Bowl. in 44 years.

  95. By Tom Spicer on Nov 16, 2012 | Reply

    Joeydefiant, When the Jets dont win the Super Bowl & all your predictions dont come true just be man enough to show up to the site & take the critisim that comes along with being wrong. You seem to love to talk negatively about other posters but I dont see you adding any football insight to the mix.

  96. By Mimi Black on Nov 16, 2012 | Reply

    2011 Jets lose
    Tebow wins and is named Colo Athlete of the Year

    2012 Jets lose
    Tebow wins even though he isn’t playing. Sanchez is one of the
    worst quarterbacks I have ever seen. So is the coaching staff.

    Suggestion: Fire the coaches and the loudmouths. Admit Sanchez stinks.
    Tebow wins with or without playing brcause he has class.

  97. By scjoe on Nov 16, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer, you don’t have to answer to a “guy” like joeydisillusion! Who is he? You paid for a PSL, you paid for your tickets, you earned the right to make your voice heard and you don’t need to answer to anyone, least of all him.

  98. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom of Few Words on Nov 16, 2012 | Reply

    You’re right, scjoe, but I’ll pat Spicer on the back for speaking up to joeydeluded. I see joey finally stopped just coming on the site to commit ageism and finally started talking about the actual play of the Jet team, so maybe in a few yrs he’ll realize that this isn’t at all what a good NFL team looks like.

  99. By Tom Spicer on Nov 16, 2012 | Reply

    JetBlue, Let me guess you knew Rex was bad for years as you suggest above. Um until week 15 of last year we were 8 & 5 looking like a lock for a playoff berth & the 2 years prior to that we made the AFC champinship game. So up until that point Rex was the best thing since sliced bread to EVERY Jet fan. So to say anything other wise is comical at best. FYI it is week 11 of 2012 week 15 of 2011 is less than a year ago prior to that EVERYTHING was 7th heaven. Also did you get that hindesight on Josh Freeman when he had 16 TDS & 22 PICKs last year? Or was it now that he is doing good? About Mark at USC yes I know he was a junior & if being 15 & 1 having 34 TDS & 10 picks & throwing for 5 TDS in the rose bowl to beat penn state the #!1 D in

  100. By Tom Spicer on Nov 16, 2012 | Reply

    college football at the time does not impress you. I have no idea what the hell will!

  101. By Joe on Nov 16, 2012 | Reply

    For years i have PREACHED TO ALL THAT WITHOUT AN ELITE QB FORGET ABOUT A SB WIN .Has ANYONE CHECKED THE POINT SPREAD ON THE STEELER RAVEN GAME .The STEELERS (with ROTHESBURGER )were giving 4( WITHOUT ROTHESBURGER )THEY ARE GETTING 3.5 One person is worth 7.5 points .TEAM SPORT NOT AT THE NFL LEVEL ANYMORE AS THE ELITE QB IS THE TEAM

  102. By Jack on Nov 16, 2012 | Reply

    Its time for a new GM, Mr T need to go. I don’t like Woody Johnson but we are stuck with him. God Bless Leon Hess. But if Johnson want to sell PSL and more hot dogs he should try hiring Bill Cowher as the GM, and HC, for the NY, Jets. or he Could bring in Terry Bradway as the GM, or to help out Tanny or signed Jon Gruden as the HC,

  103. By JetBlue on Nov 17, 2012 | Reply

    Spiceless: There you go with the stats again. The difference between you and me is that I use instincts, not stats. Did you ever think that maybe a team can win despite having a bad QB (Ravens/Dilfer)? As for Rex, I guess I’m in my own world because I never thought he was the best thing for this team. I gave him a chance and despite some success, he never said anything that gave me the impression that has too bright. Face it, take away the 11-5 year and you have 9-7, 8-8, and now 3-6. We were winning game based on a strong running game a defense, most of which Rex inherited. What has he done to improve the team since he got here? Nothing. It’s only gotten worse. Plus, for the 2nd yr in row he has lost the locker room. Cont.

  104. By JetBlue on Nov 17, 2012 | Reply

    Cont: Nobody respects Rex as a Head Coach. He’s made predictions and promises and fallen flat on his face. He now looks down at the floor during his press conferences because even he knows that he’s out of excuses. As for MS, Penn St. hadn’t faced a team that could pass the ball all year. Number 1 D coming out of the big 10 means nothing. MS played against defenses where his receivers were wide open and were great after the catch when running slants that started out as 10 yard passes. NFL is so much faster. He’s one of the worst starting QB in the league and is not learning from the many mistakes he makes. Even Jaws says it’s time for him to sit down. He’s awful & you know that I’ve been saying that for over 2 years. Insight!

  105. By ron alexander on Nov 17, 2012 | Reply

    “STATE OF THE JETS”
    Guys, lets stop the bickering & fighting!( apparently,if you believe Menish Mehta,theres enough of that going on in the lockerroom!)Heres the deal in a nutshell; Tannenbaum has proven to be a disaster as a talent evaluator. He must go! Rex is clearly in over his head as a head coach!Its one thing call a bad play or desighn a bad scheme vs. a specific opponent. Its another thing all together to loose the pulse of your own team 2 years in a row! Inexcusable! This pre-season most of us here were looking forward to a new season and getting back to our recent winning ways.However, as the preseason games started it was clear to most of us we were in trouble-

  106. By ron alexander on Nov 17, 2012 | Reply

    cont.- like the last three games of last season the offence struggled.W.Hunter was a 100% disaster. Sanchez could not move the team. The recievers dropped passes at an alarming rate. The defence was supposed to be faster as guys lost weight and trained harder? Have any of you seen any sighn of any of these supposed improvements. The answere is obviously NO! So is there really any wonder we are such a mess now? I can understand why guys like S.C.Joe & Ira want to win as many games as possiable and see what happans? But I ask you all, has this group of players & coaches or upper management given us any reason to believe they are remotely capable of turning things around?If you believe they will I have oceanfront property in Nebraska for you?

  107. By licketysplit on Nov 24, 2012 | Reply

    Curse of the Mangenius

    I’m not saying he didn’t have his faults nor that he wouldn’t aggravate you but his teams were rarely penalized and well-composed. When you fire a coach who’s had two of three winning seasons having shoved Brett Favre down his throat…karma will be bad….for a while.

    You might need a human sacrifice

  108. By Joe on Nov 25, 2012 | Reply

    Rex IS HERE 4 YEARS AND HAS NOT WON A TITLE OF ANY KIND .This is the NFL THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS WINNING THE SB THATS IT .ASK MARTY SCHOTTENHIMER if IAM WRONG

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