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Jets-Rams: First-Half Tweets

Posted by Randy Lange on November 18, 2012 – 2:32 pm

Here are today’s first-half tweets for Jets-Seahawks at CenturyLink Field, in case you missed them on Twitter. Follow Bob Wischusen, Eric Allen and me for our tweets during each Jets game on https://twitter.com/nyjets.

#RL Jets’ 13-7 lead is their first halftime lead in 4 games (21-6 vs IND). They also lead Rams in yards (154-143), takeaways (2-0).

#EA The Jets are also 2-0 when they are plus in the turnover department and right now they are +2.

#EA The Jets are 2-0 this year when owning a lead at halftime (BUF & IND). They lead the Rams 13-7 at the break.

#RL Rodney McLeod’s hold of Chaz Schilens wipes out 98-yd KO return TD by Chris Givens.

#RL Folk becomes only 2nd kicker in Jets history to hit two 50-yd FG tries in one game. Pat Leahy hit from 53, 52 at New England 10.20.85.

#RL Nick Folk does it again. Another 51-yd FG try, another beautiful kick. Jets 13-7…

#RL Rams report WR Danny Amendola has a foot injury, his return to this game is questionable. He has 4 catches for 16 yds.

#EA Wild game. Jets have 2 takeaways in +territory and 7 points from those. 6 has been sacked 3 times and special teams has had 2 miscues.

#RL Schilens TD gives Jets 10-7 lead, their first lead in 10 quarters plus one OT session (@ NE).

#EA That is Scott’s 8 FR of his career and third with the Jets. Schilens TD. His 2nd one with the Jets. Green & White lead 9-7.

#RL Mark Sanchez so far is 7-for-10 for 79 yds, TD, 126.7 passer rating.

#RL Sanchez-to-Schilens TD. Schilens’ 2nd TD catch as a Jet, Jets 1st offensive TD in last 17 possessions.

#EA Big Mo with the strip-sack and the Madbacker with the huge recovery. Turnover No. 2 for the defense.

#RL Mo Wilkerson with the strip-sack of Sam Bradford, Bart Scott to STL-28. In 2 games Mo has 2 FFs, 1 FR and 21-yd TD return.

#RL Rams ready for Tebow fake punt/pitch to Lex Hilliard, tackled for 1-yd loss. First time opps have stopped Jets fake after 3 successes.

#EA Kyle Wilson back there on the PR. Jeremy Kerley had the fumble last week in SEA and is battling heel and hamstring issues.

#RL Kyle Wilson’s first punt return in two seasons goes for 19 yards down the sideline to the Jets 34.

#RL Nick Folk comes on for 26-yd FG try. It’s blocked by Janoris Jenkins. 2nd Jets FG blocked in the last 3 games.

#EA E. Smitty gets his first pick of the year and No. 6 of his career.

#RL Eric Smith’s 6th career interception sets the Jets up in the red zone at the Rams 13. Jets have scored only once in last 5 RZ tries.

#RL John Hall holds record for most 50-yard FGs in Jets career with 9, plus one more in playoffs.

#RL Nick Folk hits from 51 yds out. Rams 7-3. It’s Folk’s 2nd 50-yarder this season, 7th as a Jet since 2010.

#RL Joe McKnight’s first catch of the season goes for 18 yards, converts 3rd-and-3 and moves Jets into STL territory.

#RL Opponents have scored first in 8 of Jets’ last 9 games. Opponents also have scored 6 times on their 10 opening drives vs Jets this yr.

#RL Sam Bradford to WR Brandon Gibson wide-open back of end zone. Make that 7 TDs on opponents’ last 8 red zone trips.

#RL Rams move to Jets 17. Opponents have scored 6 TDs on their last 7 red zone opportunities vs. the Jets…

#RL Robert Malone’s 1st punt fair-caught by Danny Amendola at STL-13. Malone’s last 4 punts, 5 of his last 6 have been inside-20 punts.

#RL Mark Sanchez, in empty backfield, beats Rams blitz with 8-yd completion to Chaz Schilens, Jets’ 1st 3rd-down conversion of game.


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55 Responses to “Jets-Rams: First-Half Tweets”

  1. By Luis from Olathe KS on Nov 18, 2012 | Reply

    This is the kind of game I wish I could see every weekend, well coach, well play…also according to the W-L trend we are suppose to lose the next four games, perhaps is time to sacrifice the chicken for good luck!!!!!

  2. By Bennett on Nov 18, 2012 | Reply

    Much needed win. Sanchez had 15 completions for 178 yrds 1 td, NO PICS, NO FUMBLES and was only sacked 3 times. I guess some will consider this a “good “game for ole Sanchez. Some might even say SEE TOLD YA.MAN…. I TOLD YA. HE’S GOOD MAN… YOU AINT TALKIN SO LOUD NOW MAN… AIN”T YA MAN The fact that this is considered a “good” game for Sanchez just shows what a pathetic condition the QB situation is in, and how low the expectations have fallen for ole Sanchez now.

  3. By scjoe on Nov 18, 2012 | Reply

    OK, being the stand up guy that I am, I have to give credit where credit is due. Mark Sanchez actually had a “good” game, not a great game, but a good game. No INTs, and only 3 sacks, fumbling only one. Question is, is 3 or 4 “good” games a season OK?

  4. By Bennett on Nov 18, 2012 | Reply

    On second thought, and after much reflection, some meditation some sole searching, and after taking a long walk ( which for me is to the end of the driveway and back)… if Sanchez does not throw an interception, or fumble the ball away regardless of anything else or any other outcome, it is a good game for him

  5. By GaryC on Nov 18, 2012 | Reply

    during the jets playoff run,Bart ” cant wait” Scott couldn’t get his mush in the television screen enough,now it is the media’s fault for their decline,I haven’t seen Cimini taking the snaps from Mushnick,or Schein trying to cover the receivers this year.Oh,by the way,nice speed Bart,getting run down by Mulligan.

  6. By GaryC on Nov 18, 2012 | Reply

    One down another three at least to go before playoffs are mentioned,I will not fall into that trap with this team.

  7. By harry-o on Nov 18, 2012 | Reply

    hey look what i found
    a win and a running back (powell)
    ok …so it was against schotty and the Rams
    still it was a win to build on
    stick it to the Pats on thursday nite

  8. By MIKE on Nov 18, 2012 | Reply

    Good win by the Jets today against a team they should beat anyway. Today’s keys to victory were sticking with the run, using 4 down lineman and not using Tebow as much. The Jets offence looked much more isync than the last few weeks because Sanchez did stay in there. Don’t get me wrong, MS is still not and will never be an elite QB.

    Wilkerson is looking like an all pro at times and Coples plays solid when he does play. And how about Austin Howard, haven’t heard of him that much which means he is doing a great job at RT.

  9. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom of Few Words re Few Wins on Nov 18, 2012 | Reply

    So we beat one of the worst teams in the league and one, I might add, whose O looks just like ours did for a few yrs. (Wonder why THAT is?) I can see us beating TEN, JAX, and BUF and losing to NE, SD, and ARI, or maybe you flip the BUF and ARI games. Problem is, what good does 7-9 do us? For that matter, what good does 9-7 and getting blown out in the first round of the playoffs get us? We need the draft choices much more.

  10. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom of Few Words re Few Wins on Nov 18, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Spicer, just so you don’t think I’m in Cimini’s pocket: “The quarterback who can’t shoot straight found his target almost every time. Emerging from a two-game funk, Mark Sanchez completed 75 percent of his passes — his best percentage in nearly three years — in leading the Jets to a 27-13 win over the Rams on Sunday at the Edward Jones Dome.” Yeah, that’s true, Rich, he almost looked like the Sanchez of his first 3 or 4 games in ’09. He also threw the ball high and to the wrong side on the TD to Schilens, a pass that would’ve been broken up had the defender been closer than 5 yds away. When it happens that way next time, don’t say I didn’t warn you about the consequences of Sanchez’s consistently inaccurate throws.

  11. By John N on Nov 19, 2012 | Reply

    J-E-T-S…Just End The Season

  12. By Another Tom on Nov 19, 2012 | Reply

    Good win on the road..safe play calling in the red zone…some good pressure/ pass rush and forced turnovers from DEF..All 3 RB s looked good too.. Another drop from S Hill though-A second round project that we probably could not afford. .but I sure hope He develops. Maybe get Him involved in the run game so He can contribute and build some confidence..

  13. By JetBlue on Nov 19, 2012 | Reply

    Sleep well Jet Fans. This win will undoubtedly be washed away on Thursday night when the unprepared Jets get hosed by the out-for-blood Patriots. I know, I’m a nay-sayer (Realist). But this is what we’re all preparing ourselves for, isn’t it? This is what we’ve come to expect from a Rex Ryan coached team. Let’s face the facts about the Rams game. They did everything they could to give it away and we still struggled to score points. If not for Powell, we’d have kicked the typical 25 yd field goal, twice, and had a nail-biter at the end of the game. MS finally hit some wide open rcvrs. I don’t belive that the Patriots are unbeatable. This team needs to go into this game with an attitude and keep it going for 4 qtrs. Show us!!!

  14. By IRA on Nov 19, 2012 | Reply

    Mike Howard got beat by Long early but settled down after they gave him help.
    Its great to finally get a much needed win. Solid game execpt for a few plays. Sanchez managed the game and played very well. Looked very much like he did in 09 and 10 when the team can run the ball. To me even though they only avg 3.0 yds per carry they stayed with the run and mixed in all 3 RB’s. We finally got to seee what Powell can do and thats how he looked at camp. Its about time they starting getting the RB’s involved in the passing game. Keep things simple and take your shots down field like they did with Schilens and Kerley.

    Also Schilens saved a TD and made another ST tackle. Sparano called a nice game.
    GO JETS!!!!

  15. By Jersey Rich on Nov 19, 2012 | Reply

    The W feels good… hope Brady doesn’t make us look like a bunch of TURKEYS on Thanksgiving.

  16. By Byrdman on Nov 19, 2012 | Reply

    It is what it is- A victory over a team in total rebuild mode! The biggest difference, looking at the stats, is the turnovers. Rams don’t have the talent (yet) to overcome 4 TO’s. Wonder what happens if the Rams KO return TD isn’t nullified by holding ? I see that Rams are credited with 10 combined (tackles for loss + sacks) to the Jets 3 overall. This indicates the speed and ability to penetrate that the Rams front 7 has, as much as the decline of Jets O-line. Listening to Mike F. interview T-Bomb, Tanny comes off like a politician not willing to admit that things have gotten progressively worse under his administration, while campaigning for re-election !

  17. By ron alexander on Nov 19, 2012 | Reply

    GARY C, Nice call on Scott getting caught by Mulligan.How pathetic was that? Mulligan has a bigger beerbelly than Santa Claus and is so slow they used a sundial to clock his 40 times.BENNETT, actually Sanchex did fumble once.Oh well.
    IRA, I hope this win doesn’t put you on cloud 9 as we did basically beat “the little sisters of the poor!” I know a wins a win, but St Louis looked pitiful. i watched the post game show & Adam Schein gave the Jet offence an A for their effort. Geez, how low can we be setting the bar when you give up 3 sacks,2 dropped passes,another Q.B fumble plus a blocked field goal as well as an ill advised fake punt against the opponents regular defence instead of the punt return team?

  18. By kleckofan on Nov 19, 2012 | Reply

    Everyone should know my take on things by now…for this week I’ll shut up and say “good effort, nice clean game for the most part”.
    I wouldn’t be me if I didn’t point out some “cracks” though: 3rd week in a row that Special Teams have failed (blocked FG and missed FG) the aberration we thought this was in the Miami game has become a habit. Sanchez did get stripped again, nice one-hop to himself.
    Great game for Mo Wilk, Bilal, grat hit from Cro’ (amazing, can’t believe they didn’t throw a bogus flag). Good game for mark, decion-making and accuracy improved. After a poor start, good game for OL too.
    Pats game is one we always lose on Nat’l TV, lets find a way. Don’t wish misfortune on anyone, but Gronk’s act brings bad karma!

  19. By SCfromNY on Nov 19, 2012 | Reply

    Well an enjoyable game on Sunday for a welcome relief. Sanchez had a decent game so I will have no compaints today. The only negative as one poster said the bar is so low for Sanchez that this was thought of as a “good” game. Not a bad game but i would just say servicable. Forgot how bad Shotty’s calls are. Hill still needs a lot of work. Is there anyone out there who can give a reason for having Tebow on the team? I hope this Thanksgiving against the Pats is not as bad as last time. Would have been nice if NE waited 2 weeks to improve secondary. At least we won’t see Gronk. It will be nice to see if our D improved when we step up in competition. Had to be a record number of OT’s Sunday.

  20. By Tom Spicer on Nov 19, 2012 | Reply

    Wilkerson looks like a beast he is really coming on. Coples, Landry, Bell & Cromartie are getting it done. The whole D did a great job. I have to say this thou 2 negative things 1 Stephen Hill we traded up higher into the 2nd round for this guy & he can not catch. How do you play WR & not know how to catch the ball? It is your job LOL. Every week he drops at least 1 ball that hits him in both hands with no one near him. Also there was a deep pass that Mark threw to him that he dd not even look for the ball. Also Austin Howard while this guy is a improvement over Wayne “the doormat” Hunter he is hardly the long term answer at right tackle. Every week it seems he gives up at least 1 sack.

  21. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Nov 19, 2012 | Reply

    “AT LAST” the “JETS” looked great. The running game finally clicked giving MS a great day. The defense looked good and the rookies played well. We all may say; “well it was only the “RAMS”, however it was a win and for the first time in several weeks I wasn’t breathing hard. We have a short week this week and Thursday night we play our nemisis “NE” if the “JETS” play as well as they did yesterday and can contain Welker who I feel will be the biggest threat since “Grankowski” will be out for “NE” we may win. “REX” find away to rush “BRADY” and take his game away and we might stand a good chance at Beating “NE”.

  22. By joeydefiant on Nov 19, 2012 | Reply

    Austin Howard played a horrible game, not sure what you were looking at. Until the Jets kept TE/RB in to help him Rams were running right by him.

    The D showed up for Rex big time against Schotty. And so did Sanchez. No matter what you say about Sparano, he is an upgrade over Sparano. Rex and Pettine took Schotty to school yesterday. Great watching the Rams WRs do the Schotty pre-snap ballet spinning around and running back and forth from left to right making themselves dizzy.

  23. By joeydefiant on Nov 19, 2012 | Reply

    Seems I am getting old and senile like “Bed Check” billy belichick. That is Sparano is an upgrade over Schottenheimer any day. That great Head Coach the Rams got over there did a great job letting go of Danario Alexander. He was the Rams best receiver. It is safe to say that Bradford is a BUST. Sanchez is a huge upgrade over Bradford. The Rams fans are calling for Kellen Clemens over Bradford. Chiefs fans are calling for Quinn over Cassel. Jaguars fans are calling for Henne over Gabbert. Bills fans are calling for Brad Smith over Fitzpatrick. Steelers fans are calling for Batch over Leftwich. Browns fans are calling for McCoy over Weeden. Chargers fans are calling for Whitehurst over Rivers. Cowboys fans are calling for Orton over Romo.

  24. By Mike Jet Vet on Nov 19, 2012 | Reply

    Not falling into this trap again sorry. I’m not giving Sanchez any passes, Until he wins at least 2-3 in a row stops the sacks and typical mistakes, Than and only than I’ll give him some credit …let me also remind the fans, Rams aren’t such a great test, this was just a simple win against a very average team..That said good win lets string some together see where it go’s NE next will lets see what they show in that game …

  25. By GaryC on Nov 19, 2012 | Reply

    Ron Alexander,if getting caught by Mulligan doesn’t tell the jets coaching staff how slow their linebacking is nothing will.As a matter of fact Mulligan looked faster then Keller running down Scott.why do guys get faster once they leave the jets,looks to me the conditioning is way down.And please on this win,I believe the Rams played their Super Bowl when they lost to the niners,so they were a bit deflated,so to say.

  26. By ron alexander on Nov 19, 2012 | Reply

    BYRDMAN, i agree 100% with your entire post!The stats were amazingly simular & it was clear the T.O’s were the difference. I mentioned Frances’s interview with Tannenbaum on my saturday post & again you hit the nail on the head. I did think Fran went at him harder than most of us expected, but it was long over due. I also caught your back & forth with JOE on the prevous post and again, I agreed with you. Problem is Joe doesn’t read anyone else’s posts unless they are specifically addressed to him so he comes up with a lot of stuff that is old news.Too bad he doesn’t stay on top of stuff here as he does make some good points when he’s not bashing the delusional dreamers & going on & on about the same tired stuff.

  27. By IRA on Nov 19, 2012 | Reply

    Ron, No not on cloud 9 but i will tell you it feels good to win a football game. I don’t think anybody has any idea how hard they work and the very long hours that the entire team, players, coaches and everbody else puts in to get ready for a game. So even though they are 4-6 or if they were 10-0 i am happy for all of them and myself as a fan.
    I believe they will give the Pats all they can handle this week and maybe still get a win here. That doesn’t guarantee they will beat the Cards or anybody else. Just take one game at a time and see what happens.
    GO JETS!!!!

  28. By kleckofan on Nov 19, 2012 | Reply

    It was good to see Ihedigbo do well on Sunday night, as our special teams struggle I wonder how we let him get away.

  29. By BillsJets on Nov 19, 2012 | Reply

    Here’s the deal, we beat the Rams, not the Giants, we beat the Rams. We’ll take the win, but we need to get ready for the Pats. Why can’t Shonne Greene run like this every game. McKnight did great, nice to see Sanchez threw to the other TE instead of always Keller. Watching the Jets game against the Rams, I kept thinking the Rams were going to come back, that’s sad to say but the Jets need to get better at time management on offense, and stop setting Tebow up for failure, Sanchez is still not the answer but you can’t make Tebow run every down. Let’s go Jets, if there’s one favor you can do for us JET fans is to at least knock off the Pats this Thanksgiving.

  30. By ron alexander on Nov 19, 2012 | Reply

    JET FAN Frank 64, Great? I dont know if great is a word I want to associate with this game?Hey, I’ll take the W but lets not get carried away! We hung in there & beat a lousey team. While his completion percentage was good for a change he was still not great with accuracy. Even the T.D to Schilens was off target.If the d.b was anywhere near Schilens it would have been picked off or at least deflected.We as Jet fans have come to the point where we expect disaster so when we have a decent game like this it seems like wow, we won? Great?SPICER, Mo Wilk played a nice game. But 2 tackles plus a lucky strip where he reached in as he was being blocked is hardly playing like a beast. He’s improving but lets see more before we put him in Canton.

  31. By chris long time jet fan on Nov 19, 2012 | Reply

    lets not blame tebow for anything all he has ever done was win maybe not flashy but productive…turnovers are key to every nfl game ..we are in every game wthout the turnovers….. mark averages almost 2 per game since hes been here….every game….so we live and die with mark…who will always be just a average qb….this makes us a 8-8 team..this year 6-10….next year 8-8..

  32. By Charliejet on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    You ALWAYS have to hold your breath with this kid(Sanchez). In all fairness, he has been set up for failure. Still he just doesn’t inspire much faith. Come on Jets take this opportunity and turn into something positive.

  33. By Jets Fan Rarely More Bored Since '64 By These Jets Tom on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    Good eye on Sanchez’s lousy throw to Schilens for the TD, ron a, it’s amazing to me how folks on this site who claim to watch the games carefully don’t seem to notice how badly positioned the ball is on almost every throw that this guy makes. Maybe it has more to do with denial than discernment…

  34. By ron alexander on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    IRA, This was one of those no-win situations vs. the Rams. If we lost the season was basically over as 8-8 is not likely gonna get us in the playoffs. On the other hand, no rational jet fan was gonna get to excited about beating the Rams.My concern this week is which Jet team will show up? This is an excellent opportunity to quiet all the nay-sayers. A great performance vs. N.E. resulting in a win will go a long way to team confidence & moral. On the other hand, if we lay an egg on Turkeyday it could go the other way. As a former college player I am well aware of what goes into preparing for a game like this. I only hope the Ram win doesn’t lessen the urgency vs. the Pats. If it does it will not be a Happy Thanksgiving for Jet fans like us

  35. By ron alexander on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    GARY C, I seriously doubt Mulligan has gotten anyfaster since he joined the Rams?Judging by his girth and the glacial speed he appeared even slower if anything? Of course what does that say about Scott? SPICER, more on Mo Wilk, have you ever seen a great pass rusher with a gut like his? I’m think’n no! Until he starts takeing his career more seriously by getting in better shape I have to question his committment. And what makes you think Coples is “gettin it done? The fact that he has what 2 sacks so far? Hey,dont get me wrong my man but we need to raise the bar a lot higher to win a championship. I seriously doubt Bilacheat would be anointing his players with simular production to Canton?

  36. By scjoe on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    Ron, the problem is, the bar has been set so low that simply beating a very below average team like the Rams gets rave reviews. One game does not make a season, one way or another. String together 4 or 5 wins in a row against the Patriots, Steelers, Texans, Packers and Giants of the world and THAT would deserve rave reviews. Don’t get me wrong, I will take any win against any team at any time, but at the same time, lets put it in to it’s proper perspective.

  37. By ron alexander on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    s.c.joe, As usual, we are on the same page.There were two things I knew would happan as this game ended; Spicer would annoint someone to Canton, & JOE(aka the “deacon of doom & gloom” would be conspicously abscent. Well, looking above I “rest my case”! Of course JOE will come back with “let me know when we beat a team with a winning record” ( to which he will have a good point) But my point is the predictability of us as Jet fans. I have been saying this for weeks now how the bar is simply set too low! Until the organization hires a real football guy to run this organization Jet fans like IRA will be forced to settle for small insignificant vistories like the Ram game.Now, that being said, if we beat N.E & run the table….?

  38. By GaryC on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    Look at this game seriously,the Pats already have a 3 game lead in the division,and the jets are fighting for their lives,this would be another embarrassment if the jets got plastered by a team that can give a game away,please no excuses this week,of course that is if the jets eat to much turkey during the day.

  39. By Tom Spicer on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    Ron Alexander, Besides J.J. Watt name 1 “great” pass rushing 3 – 4 DE in the NFL. Nevermind that I will give you the answer on that 1 it is zero. Maybe this will be a littler easier name 1 in the last decade? 3 -4 DE’s are 300 lb plus guys whos jobs are to take up blockers so the linbackers can make plays. The pass rush in the 3-4 comes from the OLB’S I dont know about you but I dont know to many skinny 300 lb + people. Wilkerson has had in games this year tackle wise 4, 9, 7, 5, 5, 7 & 4. Those are linebacker tackle numbers or very good 4 -3 DE numbers for a 3 – 4 DE those are borderline great numbers. Rex has come out & said 1 on 1 you cant block the guy. I could make a case that he is the 3rd beat player on our D 4th in a worst case

  40. By Tom Spicer on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    senario. In regards to Coples he does not start so he does not have alot of chances to make plays. When I do see him in the game he gets QB pressures & QB hits which are big cause as he developes those turn into sacks.

  41. By Byrdman on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    Ron A. – thanks, I figured most on this blog saw right through Tanny in that interview too. I think the Jets would benefit from having a fresh set of eyes looking at the big picture, a legitimate football talent expert in the GM position. I don’t buy T-Bomb as anything but a glorified accountant, who’s been given a dream job and botched it. Curious to see what Rex could do with a couple more play-makers on both sides of the ball. Yeah, it makes me wonder sometimes when I challenge someone on this radar blog or ask them a question and they don’t respond – are they agreeing with my point and are too proud to admit it? Everybody here has something to contribute – even the condescending, mr. know it all CAPS-LOCK rants can be amusing :D

  42. By ron alexander on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    SPICER, Again, i am not one of the guys that busts your chops. Please dont confuse me with those that do.Now, back Mo Wilk, dont get me wrong but havn’t you noticed how much more 4-3 we are playing these days?Last game was about 80% 4-3. If thats the D we are gonna play we need Mo to trim down as the extra weight is not gonna help his pass rush. If you look back at the Seattle game I pointed this out as he got tired and we had to play Pace at his spot & we all saw how that worked out. Their Q.B ran around him 4 times on one drive alone.BYRDMAN, Once again I agree 100%. Tanney needs to go count beans some place else and Joe is gonna blast the “delusional dreamers” & point out we cant win a title without a elite Q.B.Oh, & all coaches know all

  43. By ron alexander on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer, a couple of 3-4 ends come quickly to mind, J.Peppers & Richard Seymour for starters never had obvious beer bellies.And its time to stop defending guys like Coples too! Geez, your starting to sound like Rex. As I just posted, check the film, we are playing a lot of 4-3 now 7 Coples is getting a lot of Reps. Yes, he occassionally sniffs the Q.B but he like the rest of the team needs to aim higher!Both S.C.Joe, Birdman & others have said this before, the bar has been set to low! If you are gonna be satisfied with 8-8 and Coples & Mo Wilk getting 5 sacks each god bless you. Me, for the money I shell out, for the devotion I have given this team i do hope for & expect more for my money! for me, its Superbowl or bust!

  44. By JetBlue on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    Ron Alex: Great posts, very level-headed. I think the Tanny interview showed us nothing. No insight, no intelligent football talk. I don’t expect the guy to give away the play-book but you’d think he would at least try to give Jet Fans a little something to hope for. Not happening with him or Rex. You should know better than to engage in any disagreement with the SpiceMan. He throws stats around to support his opinion, which usually sways back and forth based on the latest game. I’m with you on the young D linemen. Let’s see some consistancy game after game. Let’s see some domination before we call a guy a Beast.. Watching the 49ers D play is a testament to how dominant a D can be during a game because they practice the same way.

  45. By SCfromNY on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    ron; Don’t JPP and Tuck play defensive end? I will agree about the conditioning. Across the board with all our injuries one of the many coaches that need to go is our strenght coach. It is also about attitude. If you remember the Giants Fred Dryer, later starred as Hunter on TV, he was crazy and for a slightly built guy had a major impact.

  46. By chris long time jet fan on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    stats count when your talking about the quarterback.theres always exception to the the rule…but in the long term numbers are the only thing that dont lie or are dillusional.i been a jet fan for almost 40 year so i know what to expect…i just ask for sound football week in and week out and win against a quality team now and then. that being said the top down to sanchez needs to be changed..

  47. By Byrdman on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    I’ve been reading about different D line configurations, NT’s DT’s DE’s A gap, 2,3,4,5 Technique and so on. The Giants have frustrated Brady with their front 7 and if you look at the way they draft and deploy their D it makes sense. Every year they load up on pass-rushing linemen and LB’s They’re loaded with em. It enables them to put tons of heat on your QB, but in theory would leave them vulnerable to the run. Jets are almost 100% opposite, our front 7 is built to stop the run primarily, NONE of em are pass rush specialists. Mo, Coples and Ellis could be the foundation of a solid interior D line- what we lack are fast, athletic, penetrating DE’s and LB’s. While MO and Ellis get doubled, your prototype pure speed rusher nails the QB

  48. By Byrdman on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    Our LB’s simply don’t have the speed/pass rush moves to generate much heat. You might think I’m crazy but, if the Jets have 7 draft picks next year I’d use 2 or 3 on LB’s and try to land a good free agent LB too.

  49. By Tom Spicer on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    Ron Alexander, Richard Seymour yes 100% a great pass rushing 3-4 DE. Julius Peppers has always been a 4-3 DE. If you say we are playing 80% 4-3 I will take your word for it.

  50. By Tom Spicer on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    SCfromNY, Tuck & JPP both 4-3 DE’S & the Giants play 4 – 3 & 4-3 only.

  51. By Jete Fan Since '64 Tom of Few Words at Thanksgiving on Nov 21, 2012 | Reply

    Good defense of Wilk and Coples, Spice, but good comeback, ron a.

  52. By ron alexander on Nov 21, 2012 | Reply

    JETBLUE, Thanks a lot. Coming from guys like you, Gary C, Tom64,Byrdman & of course S.C. Joe positive feedback is welcome.You guys along with others are well respected contributors who bring a lot to the table.Unlike some who come here it is never my intention to insult or disrespect the opinions of others. On the other hand, i do feel a responcability to point out glaring inaccuracies that occassionally pop up here. To me calling a guy a beast infers he is wreaking havic on opponents and is a sure bet to be selected to the pro bowl.TOM64, actually it is I who must applaud you & S.C.Joe for pointing out Sanchez’s inaccuracies over the summer which really forced me to take notice.His YAC stats really say it all. terriable!

  53. By GaryC on Nov 21, 2012 | Reply

    Ron,the beast reference might have to be tweaked a bit,remember this past draft when Dontari Poe was being called the Beast.I am not to sure he is ready to wreck havoc except come Thanksgiving day behind the kitchen table.

  54. By ron alexander on Nov 21, 2012 | Reply

    SPICER, Geez, 3-4, 4-3, Bear46, it doesn’t matter. We can split hairs all day here as you can argume either way. The bottom line is fat guys get tired because the reason they are fat is they dont burn calories as fast they consume them! Obviously its next to impossiable for an athlete to perform to his maximun ability if he is tired.So hopefully Mo Wilk will loose the gut and become the “beast” we all hope for.Tom64, you & I are so on the same page for this organization. If we as fans perpetuate the mediocrity by accepting it as part of Jet culture there is no reason for management to address the problems.Hey, as long as they sell PSL’s, tickets,jerseys & hotdogs who cares if we ever win a Superbowl?Again,time to raise the bar higher

  55. By ron alexander on Nov 21, 2012 | Reply

    Randy, may I wish you and your family as well as all those who post here a very happy thanksgiving!

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