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Rams Win? ‘Past That Now, On to the Pats’

Posted by Randy Lange on November 19, 2012 – 7:43 pm

Rex Ryan and the Jets did in fact enjoy their two-hour plane ride back from St. Louis to Newark on Sunday night, as he suggested they should. And the head coach was still smiling over the Jets’ not-perfect-but-strong-nonetheless 27-13 win over the Rams the day before.

But Ryan and his players had no time to banter or trashtalk too much about their Thanksgiving night home matchup with Bill Belichick, Tom Brady and the Patriots.

“Right now we’re just swinging,” Rex said, going into heavy boxing/UFC metaphor. “We’re going to focus on our opponent specifically, but we’re behind where we have to be. We can only focus on ourselves. Like I say, just find a way to punch and swing. We earned where we are and we have to find a way to punch our way out. I’m not even worried about tweaking New England. It’s to a point where we have to focus on just us.”

The Jets did that with an altered schedule, returning to the Atlantic Health Training Center this morning and working out and meeting all day before starting the “first practice of the week” late this afternoon into early evening, which necessitated the lights ringing the complex’s outdoor turf field to be turned on for the session’s conclusion.

If any of the players lose focus now, it might not just be about losing that one-game-at-a-time mentality but also realizing how achy and breaky one’s body is after playing in St. Louis and before taking the field against the Pats’ band of offensive wizards and defensive opportunists three nights later.

“You have to see today like it’s a Wednesday practice,” TE Dustin Keller said from the . “You have to forget about the game yesterday. If you think about the game yesterday, you’re going to make yourself that much sorer.”

“It was a good win for us,” QB Mark Sanchez said. “We’re past that now, on to the next one. We have to try to get as many as we can.”

But only one at a time, CB Kyle Wilson said.

“We’re just really looking to improve this week, get better every day,” said Wilson. “We’re just focusing on New England. That’s all that’s there.”

Gronk Status

One player who may not be there at MetLife Stadium, at least not in uniform, is New England’s Rob Gronkowski. Belichick told Patriots reporters on a conference call today, “I really don’t have anything” on the condition of the monster TE’s left forearm. And the Patriots’ official injury report released this evening only lists him as Did Not Participate in today’s practice, with a “forearm/hip” injury.

Unofficially it was being reported that Gronk fractured the arm while blocking on the final extra point of the Pats’ 59-24 win over the Colts and would be undergoing surgery sometime today.

“They have like five tight ends on their roster, so I don’t know if they will put another guy in that role,” Ryan said. “I’m not sure how they’ll do it. New England’s so multiple, they’ll give you four wides, five wides, a bunch of tight ends, so we’ll see as the game goes on how it affects them.

“Obviously, Gronkowski’s a huge target, especially in the red zone. I never like to see anybody get hurt. I’m not sad that he’s missing our game, but I hope he gets back soon.”

Rams Redux

Sanchez has experienced the lows and highs of life as a quarterback the last two games, specifically when it comes to third-down accuracy.

At Seattle, Sanchez was 1-for-7 on third down, a 14.3% accuracy that was the lowest on that down of any game in his career.

Then at St. Louis, he rebounded with 8-for-9 accuracy at crunch time vs. the Rams. The 88.9% figure is the highest on that down in any game in his career.

On the other sideline, QB Sam Bradford and OC Brian Schottenheimer experienced those highs and lows in the same game. After one quarter, which was Bradford and Coach Schotty’s impressive 13-play opening touchdown drive, the Rams passer had a rating of 135.4 on 6-of-8 for 60 yards and the TD to Brandon Gibson.

The rest of the game, Bradford had to wonder where the magic went. He was 17-for-36 for 110 yards, one more TD to Gibby but one interception to Eric Smith, which all toted up to a 51.9 rating.

Love Those Short Fields

A few more note on the Jets-Rams drive chart. With the Rams help, the Jets finished 10 of their 13 drives in St. Louis territory. And two of those three series they didn’t cross the 50 were the Sanchez end-of-half kneeldowns.

Further, thanks to their three takeaways, the onside kick that Dustin Keller rescued, and a loss on downs after that, the Jets started five drives in St. Louis territory. That all added up to an average start on all drives of the Jets 45.9-yard line.

That is the best average drive start in a road game since we started tracking that number in 1990. There are only three home games that exceeded that number: 2001, Game 13, vs. Cincinnati (46.8), 2003, Game 5, vs. Buffalo (49.8), and 2008, Game 4, vs. Arizona (49.8). That last is the last time the Jets and Cardinals met before they’re set to do it again a week from Sunday. But first, of course, the Jets must figure out ways to maximize their field position and hidden yardage on Thursday night vs. the Patriots.

The Early Injury Picture

This is the week for the special Wednesday Injury Report, Monday Edition. The Jets and Patriots both filed reports after their practices today.

For the Jets, 19 players are on the report but it has the feel of last week’s report, which is to say fairly healthy for November. Only one player didn’t participate today and that’s WR Jason Hill (low back), who hasn’t played in the last two games after being re-signed.

Six players are limited, including WR Jeremy Kerley (heel/hamstring), who participated in only 19 offensive plays and none on specials vs. the Rams as he played through his issues. Also, NT Kenrick Ellis, who left the game after aggravating the knee injury that kept him out the four previous games, said he feels OK and did some work. The other limiteds: RB-KR Joe McKnight (ankle), DT Sione Po‘uha (low back), LB Bart Scott (toe) and CB Aaron Berry (quadriceps).

Also for the first time since before the Week 6 game vs. the Colts, C Nick Mangold is no longer being listed with an ankle injury, only with a thumb deal. He’s one of 12 Jets who were full-go today.

For the Patriots, G Logan Mankins (ankle/calf) and rookie DE Chandler Jones (ankle) joined Gronkowski as DNPs. Thirteen players were limited: DT Ron Brace (elbow), S Patrick Chung (shoulder/hamstring), G Dan Connolly (back), S Steve Gregory (hip), TE Aaron Hernandez (ankle), LB Dont’a Hightower (hamstring), WR Brandon Lloyd (knee), OL Nick McDonald (shoulder), DE Trevor Scott (hamstring), LB Brandon Spikes (knee), T Sebastian Vollmer (back/knee), WR Wes Welker (ankle) and LB Tracy White (foot).

Long-Range Holiday

LB Bart Scott is known for his Thanksgiving charity work in the city of Baltimore, where he started his pro career in 2002. Since ’03, he’s fed 250 men in the Helping Us Mission homeless shelter there, and this the fourth Turkey Day that Bart has conducted the dinner from a distance. The Ravens RB Ray Rice hosts in Bart’s absence, but the Madbacker talks with the attendees through Skype. This year’s event is Tuesday night.

Now rookie D-lineman Quinton Coples joins in the holiday cheer. Coples, who has a special affinity for his hometown of Kinston, N.C., gave away 250 turkeys in that town today. “Q” also is here in New Jersey, so his representatives, Millennium Sports Management, and volunteers distributed the birds on his behalf.


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34 Responses to “Rams Win? ‘Past That Now, On to the Pats’”

  1. By Bennett on Nov 19, 2012 | Reply

    Well I think we may have discovered the key to some Jets wins, Don.t let Sanchez throw the ball anymore than 20 times. Having 2nd thoughts about the nice things I said about Schotty that is one ole ugly offense them Rams got. I don’t think we can expect a running game like we had like that every week…. Anyway… good for you ,you ole sloopy, nutty Jets, nice solid road win, and a most satisfying game to watch, hope you had a nice happy return flight. NOW GIVE THE PATS A NICE OLE FASHIONED WHOOPIN…. they need one.

  2. By Howie D on Nov 19, 2012 | Reply

    It’s only Schotty and anybody can beat him, but I’m happy with the win. We’ve managed to compete in almost all the games this year, but fall apart against the better teams. PATS should have been spanked the last time and should be whipped this time around. Once again, it will be up to Sanchez.

  3. By Bennett on Nov 19, 2012 | Reply

    Speaking of Chad Henne (well I’m speaking of Chad Henne). This is the kid I wanted the Jets to sign as #2. I fiquered he is big, young ,strong, raw, wild and has a gun for an arm. I know… I know… ain’t no famer there boyo you blind or sumthin… but I thought he had a lot of promise to develope with good coaching, push Sanchez and maybe be ready to step in this year after a Sanchez meltdown. 354 yrds 4 TD’s against Texas after being put in Sunday. This kid can be real ugly but he can kill you in a second with the long ball and he ain’t afraid to really air it out. Would have been more fun than having Sanchez runnin’ around like a chicken with his head cut off half the dang game…. just sayin

  4. By sal cottone on Nov 19, 2012 | Reply

    A bright spot was the team didnt fold after the Rams marched down and scored on there first drive, and typical Shotty offence..nothing after the first drive of a game…Get use to it Mr.Fisher! Sanchez didnt look half bad either, Sparons touch pass call was great, maybe that is what the Dr. ordered for Sanchez.. I hope he just gets the ball moving with authority again like the first 2 games, and keeps it in perspective…Teabow looked pretty dejected on the sideline, trying to figure out how he got himself in these crazy world we call Home of the Jets!

  5. By Arte Olde School Section 327 on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    I see a big turkey win for the Jets Thitrsdau night! We had SO many chances to win the game in Foxboro it was nauseating. How we can’t make that one play like letting Tebow punch it in from the 3 in the 3rd Quarter. If it’s going to be one of those games, like it was, as is so many road games, the difference between a meanigless field goal and a touchdown IS HUGE. Look at how the Rams score their first touchdown on 4th down and how wide open it was. You can’t celebrate a field goal against NE EVER! Punch it in@ Go for it on 4th down in the Red Zone. Make it a SPECIAL MEMORABLE night and we can sweep the rest of our games. Colts and Ben-less Steelers are going down. Let’s take control of our own destiny. JETS WIN 33-31 w/ 4 Folk FGs! GOJETS!

  6. By IRA on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    I think with the Gronk injury the Pats will come out and try to expose the Jets run D with a heavy dose of running the ball. Don’t worry Brady will still attack through the air but i know we will get a lot of Ridley and Woodhead and Vereen. Schotty got away from the run this past week which made no sense since they were running at a very good clip. The Jets MUST stop the run this week or it will be a long night.
    Do i think they can? Yes but we will have to wait and see. I think the Jets will win this game IF they can avoid mistakes in all 3 phases of the game. ST’s has to make plays this week to give the Jets an advantage.
    GO JETS!!!!

  7. By SCfromNY on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    I haven’t read much about our pass D which is a good thing. It may be on the border of insanity but I don’t think the Revis loss has impacted the Jets as much as originally feared. Cro I think is playing exceptionally well along with becoming much more phyical than he has been in the past. I think our safety issues while not optomal also worked out better than we thought. Landry has played well and remained healthy.

    I wish no player harm even Brady or Gronk. But some injuries especially Gronk’s in my opinion falls back on poor coaching. Looking at the Pats lead Sunday there is no way certain players shouldhave still been in game Belichick’s love of crushing defeats will come back to bite him someday.

  8. By Karan on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    The Jets will come out strong in this game but will eventually slow down, it will be a close game, I hate to say it but I think Patriots will ultimately win this.

  9. By Chicago Bob on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    Not sure how many watched the 49er game against the Bears last night however they showed how dominant you can be with a fast and agile defense. The difference in speed between the 49ers and Jets on defense is laughable. I know we need a top notch RB, WR , OL help along with a veteran QB however until the Jets get some desperately needed speed at both OLB positions, they will never be able to handle the better teams. Even with Jay Cutler back there last night, the Bears would have gotten stomped. When you throw Bryan Thomas, Calvin Pace and Bart Scott out as 3 of your starting 4 LB’s, that spells SLOW.

  10. By AZ JET Fan on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    The rams was a nice win. I’m happy the Jets put together good game despite all the distractions. A win against the Pats and Bellacheat would be be amazing. Go Jets.

  11. By scjoe on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    I am sooooo happy, that so far, we have not heard any garbage coming out of the mouths of any player or any coach so far re: the NE game Thursday. Of course there is still time. Do the Jets have a chance to win this game? On paper they don’t have much of a chance, but as “Boomer” says, “That’s-why-they-play-the-game” Go Jets!!!!

  12. By ron alexander on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    CHICAGO BOB, Excellent point about the speed disparity between us an the 9ers.
    no comparison. IRA, if we play more 4-3 I believe we can slow down the running game this week. We cannot put 8 guys in the box against Brady as he will eat us alive. That means guys like Pouhia, Devito, Mo Wilk and yes,even Coples need to put forth great effort and get off their blocks to free the L.B’s to help in pass coverage.I noticed Demario Davis & R.Sapp on the field quite a bit last week & I think its time to include M.Dowtin into the picture to inject more speed into the line up. With no Gronk the Pats will look to get Hernandez heavely involved & I imagine we will see a healthy dose of Welker,Woodhead & Edelmann as well.

  13. By GaryC on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    Chicago Bob,SLOW IS AN EARTHWORM,SLOWER IS PACE,THOMAS AND SCOTT.

  14. By GaryC on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    randy,have a question,we know defenses look at opposing offenses during the week and vice a versa,but do other offenses look at other offenses to see what success they are having and maybe learn a thing or two.

  15. By Tom Spicer on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    SCfromNY, I know where you are going with your thought process I was thinking that as well (Revis being out but us still having a very good pass D). But than I thought this Revis was so good that we would basically tell him this is the other teams best guy you go cover them 1 on 1 all game & I am talking the Calvin Johnson, Vincent Jackson, Mike Wallace, Wes Welker, A.J. Green, Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, & ETC’s of the world. That we are doing so much to not get the ball thrown all over us that it is hurting our run D. This year we are not even coming close to stopping the run like we had in Rex’s 1st 3 years & we have the same guys? I think Revis & Cromartie played man & lock up (for the most part) the guys they were playing which let

  16. By Tom Spicer on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    the rest of the D really focus on stopping the run. What are your thougths on that SCfromNY & the rest of the regulars?

  17. By Byrdman on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    Bennett – I’m with you on Henne, as a Michigan fan I figured he could thrive under the right coaching system. Wonder if Sparano influenced the off-season decision NOT to pursuit Chad Henne. Tony prefers the Pennington QB style of play, ball control, make the safe short throws, move the chains. Henne is more of the big-armed gunslinger type. There’s an interesting blog http://sportsgeekguy.wordpress.com/2012/11/14/sanchez-height-sight-halo/ the author has some theories I tend to agree with regarding Sanchez’s regressing this season. Everyone here should take a look when you have time. GO JETS- hope they win thursday for the sake of the fans at Metlife. But, long term I think they can hit the draft jackpot with a losing record this year.

  18. By Bennett on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    How do you beat the Pats? You beat Brady. Not easy. If you try to take away his long game he will kill with the short drop, quick release short game which he has become so very expert at. To me Brady is a pure pocket passer, you do not have to fear him out of the pocket like a Big Ben. If you look at the games we beat him it was because the pressure collapsed the pocket. Aggresive jamming on the line than pressure to drive him out of his comfort zone. He is not good on the run, very slow. Just watch the quick release he has, a thing of beauty, Does this make sense to you experts like Ron Alexander and the others?

  19. By marcus c boyce on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    YES OUR D IS SLOW BUT YOU HAVE TO BRING PLAYER’S UP YOU CAN NOT PAY ONE 100 MIL AND HAVE A D , ON PAPER OUR D IS IN FOR THE LONG HAUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. MARK IS OUR QB LOVE HIM WHEN, HE CAME IN, AND WHEN HE GO’ES OUT I WOULD KEEP OUR O-LINE TILL OLD AGE. MARK WILL WIN OR LOSE WITH THE JETS. REX’S KNOW’S IF WE MAKE THE PLAYOFF’S. HE WILL SEND THE SOUL OF OUR D AT ANYBODY WE GO AGAINST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TO ALL THE JET’S FANS OUT THERE YOU WIN OR LOSE WITH THE TEAM.

  20. By davetharave on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    I really and seriously HATE Thursday football and I think it’s a big mistake the league is making by having more and more of it. There isn’t enough time for these guys to rest up, heal the bruises and get ready mentally for a game in 3 days. Unfortunately the almighty dollar is all that anybody seems to care about these days.

  21. By GaryC on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    Tanny did a better cameo then Hitchcock in his movies,he was already sweating before the first question and disappeared soon after.He cannot be wilting that quickly ,Perry Mason would of had a field day with him.

  22. By Bennett on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    Knowing the Jets as I do ( i remember Neil O’Donnell as QB ) Sanchez will be around at least another 2 seasons after this, regardless of how he preforms. This is the Jets M.O. over the years and they never change ( thats why the are known as the same old Jets ). Reminds me of Richard Todd, Drafted #6 and had some sucsess but many years of futility as a Jet but the stuck with him for 8 seasons. Best known for a 30 interception yr, and throwing 5 pics in the 83 conf. champ game. I think he also threw 5 pics in the Miami mud bowl game. Finally ended up at the Saints for his last 2 years and finished with a nice 161 interceptions for his career…. sound a little familar ?

  23. By ron alexander on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    BYRDMAN, I think you are 100% on the money on the Sparano- Henne thing! If they brought Henne here after hireing Sparano it would totally undermine him as he benched Henne last year in favor of Matt Moore.SPICER, good call on the Revis injury! I think there is a lot of truth in what you are saying.With Revis & Cro it does free the safty’s& L.B’s a lot more to concentrate on stopping the run. I also think Pace,Scott,Thomas & even Harris to a degree have slowed down th the point that its killing us vs. the run.I hate to put Harris in this group but I’m seeing him coming in to the action a lot slower than we are used to.S.C.Joe, Shhhhhh, dont jinx us about the trash talking….

  24. By Bennett on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    Some of you younger guys are complaining about the ole bitter grumpy Jet fans here. Heck man I’m still mad the let John Riggins go.

  25. By SCfromNY on Nov 20, 2012 | Reply

    Bennett; agree that Henne would have been a good pickup to be the 2nd QB. You have to wonder if the FO wanted to protect Saanchez and not bring in a viable replacement. Chicgo Bob; I think everyone will agree about are very slow LBs, and it’s not just overall speed but even more important: reaction speed. Without reaction speed even if you are fast you will start to late. At least 2 new quality LBs an I think our D will be OK.

    Spicer; I also think that stopping the run will give us our best chance for a win. No running game and pressure on Brady will allow our DBs to cover especially with Gronk out. BUT our O needes to not have pick 6’s and turnovers. We will also need TDs not FG even if we risk no points.

  26. By Charliejet on Nov 21, 2012 | Reply

    Bennett its a little more then that, you have to bull rush the pocket in front on Brady he is great at stepping up into the pocket – take that away and you throw his game off. Everyone talking about welker and hernandez stepping up… I more worried about woodhead ! Ball control keep Brady off the field.

  27. By Jete Fan Since '64 Tom of Few Words at Thanksgiving on Nov 21, 2012 | Reply

    Arte, whatever you’re drinking I want some of it with my turkey, too. Agree strongly on the greed behind the awful idea of Thursday Night Football, davetharave. Cool cultural references on Mr T, Gary C, and funny about Riggins, Bennett!

  28. By Mike Jet Vet on Nov 21, 2012 | Reply

    I have to laugh at you fans saying, Schotty Fault we won this game, Still blaming Schotty Maybe GW- bush had a hand in it as well, GIVE ME A BREAK PLEASE!!! .. We had a good game in 6 wow. break out the bubbly Right I guess the week before when Rams gave San Fran who made us look like like pee wee Herman playing pick up football , all they could handle and should have won if they didn’t miss FG, Can’t wait to hear all you genius when NE hands Sanchez and company another beat down .. I say that because I can’t remember this team winning 2 in row in some time. Let us not forget RAMS ARE UNDER 500.. keep dreaming

  29. By ron alexander on Nov 21, 2012 | Reply

    BENNETT, excellent post about beating Brady. I agree 100%! Spicer likes to point out how Brady doesn’t like to get hit. The Giants actually had a great game plan against him in game 15 of the 2007 season. Although the Giants actually lost that game which allowed the Pats to finish the regular season a perfect 16-0, they did beat the crap out of Brady sacking him 5 times and putting him on his butt at least a dozen times.It all paid off as they later played & beat them in the Super Bowl & it was clear to see Brady wanted no part of the Giants in that game.And in this years Superbowl you could tell he was very leery of the pass rush.So lets hope Spicer is right & that his boys Coples & Mo Wilk get to him.

  30. By Byrdman on Nov 21, 2012 | Reply

    RE: Run Defense – I believe the Pouha injury negatively effected our entire D MORE than Revis. I’ve seen more RB’s get to the second level against us this year than last when big Bo was gobbling up double teams hence, Harris’s play has dropped off the table, Pace and Thomas are 2 steps too slow. When Jets play a team like Detroit, and we put Megatron on Revis Island you shut the pass game down, and Jets LB/safeties kill the run. But very few teams are built around ONE dominant wideout anymore. Don’t know if Pouha has been anywhere near 100% this year, a chronic low back condition has ended many BIg DT’s careers. Jets DESPERATELY need speed at LB in 2013, through the draft or free-agents, before our D is top 5 again

  31. By Tom Spicer on Nov 21, 2012 | Reply

    Brydmam, Good point about Pouha missing those 5 games & playing with back problems in others. I also noticed that Kenrick Ellis a young guy that I really like also missed 4 games with a knee injury. This has to have hurt our run D.

  32. By Byrdman on Nov 21, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer – Yeah, Pouha was one of the top 5 interior D line players last season according to Pro Football Focus – They ranked him #36 in their top 101 Players in the NFL. His absence creates a ripple effect – Pouha is incredibly strong, we’ve seen the guy collapse the pocket and blow-up running plays when healthy. Look at Harris this year, he’s virtually disappeared cause he’s getting hit full blast by the other teams centers and guards that big Bo was handling in 2010 and 11. I like Ellis and I think he can learn a lot from Pouha, I don’t think Kenrick is physically as powerful as Sione, but hardly anybody is :D

  33. By Joe on Nov 23, 2012 | Reply

    Mike Jet (as USUAL )i CAN NOT AGREE MORE WITH YOU .We of the ARE ONE OF THE WORST TEAMS IN THE NFL (the record states we havent beat a team with a winning record in 2.5 years )yet THERE ARE FANS THAT LIVE IN A FANTASYLAND OF SB VICTORY TO COME. Ron A i see you STILL HAVENT LEARNED AS YOU COMPARING- REFERENCING THE WAY THE GIANTS handle BRADY PATS with the way we do.Ron THE GIANT TALENT LEVEL ENABLES THEM TO DO THINGS WE CAN ONLY DREAM OF DOING

  34. By Joe on Nov 23, 2012 | Reply

    ps Mike Jet Go through and read the THE REPLYS POSTED BY THE DREAMERS LIVING IN A FANTSYLAND OF SB VICTORY TO COME .Mile literally EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEIR POSTS STARTS OUT WITH ,IF,WOULD HAVE , SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE .The RECORD states NE has VIRTUALLY WIPED THE FLOOR WITH US THE PAST 2 YEARS OUTSCORING US SOMEHTING LIKE 250-50 .The above is totally irrevelant though because the GIANTS (with multiple sb vitorys and 4 ALL PRO D LINEMAN ABLE TO GET TO BRADY)S WE CAN TO OSI himself prob has more sacks than our entire DLINEMAN TOTALED BUT THAT DONT MATTER

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