Comments on: STS*: Struggles Past, Challenges, Opportunities Ahead

By: Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Vindicated Slightly

Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Vindicated Slightly — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 01:25:36 +0000

Frank, I like the waiver route for Sanchez a lot, the only thing folks are really stressing about now is the $8 mil, so let’s eliminate that factor and move on. SOCAL, most of Sanchez’s “drops” are badly-thrown balls that receivers are lucky to even get their hands on. Stop beating some mancrush stick for this loser and start watching the games more carefully. Every pass Mc threw yesterday was thrown more accurately than just about any pass MS has thrown all yr.

By: SOCALJETS

SOCALJETS — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 21:37:26 +0000

The JETS HAVE NO RECEIVERS,ALOT OF DROPPED BALLS ON PART OF THE RECIEVERS,SANCHEZ GOT THE SHORT END OF THE STICK,FOR THE RECIEVERS INCOMPETENCE,I HOPE SANCHEZ GOES TO ANOTHER TEAM WHERE HIS SKILLS WILL FLOURISH…

By: Frank

Frank — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 15:19:46 +0000

This real simple…put Sanchez on waivers and hope like hell someone claims him then the Jets are off the hook for one of the worst contract extensions in NFL history.
You have to think there are a handful of teams that would grab him.
McElroy did a great job managing the game and his pocket presence was significantly better than Sanchez. Is he the answer? who knows. We do know that Sanchez is not the answer.

By: Arthur Greenspan

Arthur Greenspan — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:52:35 +0000

Special teams…a Jet mainstay for these past years, has become symbolic of the rest of the team. Void of talent, underachievers, too much complacency, etc, etc, etc. Did you see what happenned when they benched Sanchez yesterday and put McElroy in? All of a sudden the team became energized. OL was blocking, runners were running, and the energy in the building was soaring. Maybe Westhoff should bench a few of his prima donnas ASAP, and replace then with “hungry” players? I think “part” opf the overall problem is that Ryan coddles his players way too much. It’s an invitation to take advantage…

By: Randy Lange

Randy Lange — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 18:07:50 +0000

SCfromNY, my bet is on your weird computer.

By: SCfromNY

SCfromNY — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 17:55:14 +0000

Randy: The whole look of your column and posts have changed. Just my weird computer or a change.

By: SCfromNY

SCfromNY — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 17:53:59 +0000

There is really too much to complain about lately. Part of the ST problem is personel but I feel there is another issue. The attitude of the coach and GM have made the players feel entitled. No one is pushing no one. They keep their job no matter how bad they play. St teams used to be a place to put rookies until they moved to be a starter. Sure some players stayed on ST but on the Jets no one is making a name for himself. If there is no competition EVERYONE becomes slow and lazy. Do not completely agree about “workout” muscles. I remember Phill Simms worked out with the OL especially on Bench presses. There have been many gym rats. Overall players are much more muscular than in years gone by. Better workouts and drugs.

By: Bennett

Bennett — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 16:11:12 +0000

If I could be allowed to make a point on muscle imbalance. Naturally your muscles are in almost perfect balance realitive to each other. Once you begin resistence training you change this balance. A world record holder in the squat tells a story how he witnessed a purse snatching and when he went to give chase he immediatley tore both hamstrings. His front quads were so strong realitve to the rear leg muscels and he was so out of balance it resulted in injury. Tebow is doing the totally wrong resistance training for the position he aspires to be good at, it is actually having a devasting effect on his accuracy that is not great naturally. Shame to watch as it is obvious to anyone who has lifted for differant sport/ position applications

By: Bennett

Bennett — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 14:53:41 +0000

Byrdman I don’t know if you ever saw that ESPN special about Tebow. They had this kid working out like a Navy Seal, and Lord knows the have tinkered with his mechanics. I think the should have allowed him to evolve his own natuarl style and mechanics within a framework of proven NFL effeciancy. In other words the totally ___ up this kid because he didn’t fall in to the normal parameters. We have all seen alot of ugly QB’s be successful. Instead of pulling cars this kid should have been working on flexability, muscle coordination, speed, light weights with high reps and been coached WITHIN the framework of his natural style. The QB position does not call for a 450lb bench press. I think he knows this, he is a strange kid.

By: DKM

DKM — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 14:10:27 +0000

The Oline has been such an emberassment it really didnt matter if Hunter would be here or not, and if any of you watching think Mangold has been a Pro Bowler for the last 2 years and Ferguson is worth the overblowded contract you are nuts, and B. Moore speaking of holding on to a Player just 1 year toooo long prime example, and playing your RT position based on Bonuses well that tells you a lot about where the state of mind of this team is, i tell you if there is no real changes coming after this year welcome to the world of MSG Dolan Empire BUG and a Recoverytime 2002 – (still ongoing).THIS TEAM IS JUST NOT GOOD plain and simple.

By: DKM

DKM — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 13:53:24 +0000

Well of to the Debacle thats called the NYJ and another day at the stadium and posiblly another disappointment of a game. But like i said im in all away no remorse no turning back.
And just to let everyone know this team IS JUST NOT GOOD if you watched them all year and you still debating Tebow vs Sanchez vs McElroy, Scott vs Davis, whole bunch of WR whom CANT hold on to the EGG and would be on the Practicesquad on even the worst NFL team then you should look for another Sport to root for, just keep it real here this team starting with the Owner down to the last guy on th PRSQ is NOT GOOD is that simple.

By: Jet Fan Since '64 Tom

Jet Fan Since '64 Tom — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 04:38:48 +0000

Bennett, you get away with over-using the phrase “slap you silly” because your observations are so on target!

By: MIKE

MIKE — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 01:34:19 +0000

Teams are mirror images of there owners. Look at Dallas Washington and Oakland, Each year shooting themselves in the foot with bad picks and high priced FA acquisitions. Then look at Pitt, Balt and NE. Loosing veterans but replacing them with good draft picks or smart cheap free agents. Starting to think the Jets are being to influenced by the owner with with drastic moved to sell tickets. Favre, Tebow, Plax among others have set the team back and are inexcusable. This team is very frustrating to watch. On the bright side, there is never a dull minute.

By: GaryC

GaryC — Sun, 02 Dec 2012 01:02:14 +0000

Alabama-Georgia game had more excitement then the whole jet year.

By: Bennett

Bennett — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 22:03:29 +0000

When the Jets beat the hapless Cardinals it will be a breathless Ryan at the news conferance” we turned it around”…blah blah…” Sanchez looked sharp”…blah blah … “we have to get better.” Hey Ryan just for your information any decent team can come in to your home and slap you silly at will. A good team ..say the Texans, Niners, Giants, Pats, Ravens will come into your home slap you silly and humilate you. Your team is that bad. It’s a wonder that the NFLl would want you national next year after the pathetic preformances of this team. Tired of your talk, boasts, pre game mouth just move on and turn the lights out before you leave

By: russ

russ — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 19:56:30 +0000

this game may be preempted by a Sponge Bob Christmas special…

By: Jet Fan Since '64 Tom

Jet Fan Since '64 Tom — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 19:21:43 +0000

You can measure the absurdity of the present-day Jets by an interview with Westhoff in which he talks about Tebow playing an ST position instead of QB. The Wildcat years were merely foolish but this stuff now is truly bizarre! And that goes for playing Cromartie at WR and switching McKnight around every other week, too. I’m reminded of the old PEANUTS cartoon in which Snoopy is giving Charlie Brown elaborate thanks for bringing his supper and Charlie muses “I wonder what it would be like to just have a ‘dog’ dog?” What might it be like to have a Jet org that just drafts good players and develops them along the lines of the way the game is played today by the other 31 teams?

By: scjoe

scjoe — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 18:25:57 +0000

Thanks for this story Randy, because it confirms my belief which I have been debating with others here for years now, that it all comes down to the personnel and the product that is put on the field. Did Mike Westhoff all of a sudden forget how to coach STs? The man is THEE most efficient STs coordinator in the game today! OR, is it the execution on the field that has blown up these past few weeks? Did he go out and change all the schemes and coverages on STs? I think not! They have been in place since mini camp and way beyond, the only thing that needs to be done is to execute them on the field.

By: ron alexander

ron alexander — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 16:55:51 +0000

THIS ONES A NO-BRAINER !
Special teams is usually a Jet strong point.However, with this years roster being below avg in terms of talent its really no surprise to anyone here our spec.Teams have not been up to par.Basically,its a trickle down effect as most teams use back-ups on special teams to protect their starters. When your starters are as bad as some of ours is it any surprise the reserves are worse? There are obvious exceptions to this as there are some decent back-ups (like D.Davis) but the better ones we have are also young and prone to the mistakes Randy mentiones here. I would like to think the fact that Westhoff will be retireing after this season is not a factor here as has been suggested by some ?