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Sanchez Verdict ‘Wasn’t Too Big of a Shock’

Posted by jlholt32 on December 5, 2012 – 8:10 pm

It was a typical Wednesday practice at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center this afternoon.

Yet from an outsider’s perspective it never appeared that way.

Two days of uncertainty regarding who the Jets’ starting quarterback at Jacksonville would be came to an end this morning when head coach Rex Ryan announced that he would be sticking with Mark Sanchez.

“It wasn’t too big of a shock to the guys,” wide receiver Jeremy Kerley said.

“It really was no news to take in,” right tackle Austin Howard added. “Personnel decisions are made by Rex, the GM and the owner. They’ve been here a long time to make those decisions.”

Just three days ago, as the Jets were facing the Arizona Cardinals, Ryan decided in the third quarter that it was the appropriate time to pull Sanchez from the game. The QB had struggled mightily all afternoon, throwing three interceptions in his first nine pass attempts, and also was sacked three times. The benching proved to be the first time the fourth-year QB had been taken out of a game as a pro.

“I think quarterbacks get a lot of the blame for everything, good or bad,” Kerley said. “But I think it falls a lot on his shoulders, good or bad. But we’re an offense. We don’t point fingers. We take the blame for what we put out there.”

With backup quarterback Tim Tebow unavailable to go due to broken ribs, third-stringer Greg McElroy entered the game and led the Jets to the come-from-behind 7-6 win.

“I think for Greg, it just gives him the confidence,” tight end Konrad Reuland said. “Whenever his number is called in the future, he has the confidence to go out there, and he knows he’s led a comeback victory already in his career, threw a touchdown pass on his first drive. So I don’t know how you wouldn’t have confidence after the way he played. I think in the long run, it might make this team stronger, because now we have three quarterbacks that have experience what it’s like to lead teams to comeback victories and win games in the NFL.”

On Monday, Ryan said he needed more time to make his decision and he wanted to make sure to get feedback from several of his coaching counterparts before announcing anything.  

“It was Rex’s decision,” cornerback Ellis Lankster said. “We’re not mad or anything. We’re just going to follow Rex’s decision and going to play behind him.”

The players had the previous two days off from practice, but that didn’t mean the QB chatter wasn’t heard around them. 

“I was walking into stores and people were asking me about it,” Lankster said. “I was like, ‘I don’t know. I haven’t been to practice or anything yet.’ So I didn’t know what it was going to be.”

Other players simply ignored the matter.

“I don’t really pay much attention to it,” guard Brandon Moore said. “It’ll get figured out. That’s why Rex is the head coach and he makes those decisions. I’ve got to worry about the game plan.”

While the decision wasn’t an easy one for Ryan to make, it’s clear that year four for Sanchez hasn’t been as smooth as many anticipated it would be. The Jets offense ranks 31st in the NFL and No. 6 has thrown 13 interceptions and had 18 turnovers through the team’s 12 games this season.

“I think everybody does the best job they can,” rookie WR Jordan White said. “Nobody goes in there and wants to mess up at any position. You just do the best you can. Some things might not go your way sometimes, but what can you do but come back to work the next day and get back to it. That’s what everybody’s done.”

The issue with Sanchez has never been his drive. Many of teammates say he’s one of the most dedicated people inside the locker room. 

“Mark’s a very hard worker,” fullback Lex Hilliard said. “Week in and week out, he’s here constantly, sometimes till 10 or 11 o’clock at night.”

Reuland, who also was Sanchez’s teammate at Mission Viejo High School, described a story of when their school lost in a California Interscholastic Federation championship game during Sanchez’s junior year and how that loss inspired the QB.

“They didn’t have a state championship in California back then,” Reuland said. “But it was basically as far as you could go. It was a big loss and he bounced right back the next season and led us to a No. 2 ranking in the country, undefeated [season]. He bounced back from that.

“That was definitely an adverse situation because we were expected to win it all. But I don’t think he would be here, at this level, if he didn’t know how to overcome adversity. Look at his career at USC. He battled for three years before getting a chance to start. As soon as he did, he took advantage of it.”

The players were going to support Ryan’s decision either way. But now that it’s been made, everyone was pleased it didn’t drag out.

“I think the clarification is good on all parts, receivers, tight ends, running backs,” Kerley said. “The whole offense, we needed that.”

And what seemed to impress Sanchez’s teammates most was the way the quarterback processed the situation he’d been dealt.

“Hats off to Mark,” Howard said. “He handled it like a pro.”

“He was very supportive of Greg,” Reuland said. “And I know it was tough for him, but at the same time he was very supportive. I feel like Mark just wants to win like all of us. Obviously deep down, it’s got to hurt a little bit. But at the same time, I think he did a good job of cheering us on and I feel like he’s going to bounce back.”

While many probably have lost belief in Sanchez, the people who truly count most have not.

“I got a lot of faith in him,” Lankster said.

“He’s going to put his best foot forward and give the team the best shot he’s got,” Hilliard said. “So that’s all you can really ask for.”

It’ll be interesting to see how Sanchez performs Sunday in Jacksonville. But one big question was answered today and people have to accept it one way or another.

“I think with Mark, it’s literally just he’s a couple of great plays away from being right back to where he’s been in the past,” Reuland said. “Everyone in here has been through a time where they were a little down on themselves or whatever and all it takes is one or two plays to get right back out of it — ‘Oh, wait, yeah, I can do this.’ So I think that’s going to happen. I think that’s going to happen in this game.”

Wednesday Injury Reports

The Jets’ injury list is at 22 players today. New to the list: WR Stephen Hill didn’t practice with a knee injury, DT Mike DeVito (shin) was full-go and so was FB Lex Hilliard (finger). Two other DNPs were WR Clyde Gates (concussion) and TE Dustin Keller (ankle). Four limited players: RB-KR Joe McKnight (ankle/ribs), G Brandon Moore (hip), NT Sione Po‘uha (back) and QB Tim Tebow (ribs). The Jets’ full injury list can be found here.

The Jaguars listed eight players who didn’t practice today, among them RBs Maurice Jones-Drew (foot), Greg Jones (thigh) and Rashad Jennings (concussion), centers Brad Meester (foot) and Michael Brewster (hand), WR Cecil Shorts (concussion), CB Aaron Ross (calf) and DE George Selvie (concussion).

Limited were CB Derek Cox (hamstring) and DE Austen Lane (foot). Full were DT Tyson Alualu (calf) and CB Rashean Mathis (groin).

Sack Ex-Changes

The Elias Sports Bureau has revised the scoring of three plays, all of them sacks, in the Jets-Cardinals game. The Cards’ final offensive play of the game was originally scored a split sack between DE Muhammad Wilkerson and LB Bart Scott, who swarmed rookie Ryan Lindley, but upon further review, the full sack has been given to Wilkerson, which lifts him past Bryan Thomas’ 2.5 sacks and into the team lead with 3.0 sacks.

The other two sack revisions were both on Arizona takedowns of Mark Sanchez. The early-second-quarter sack split between LB Sam Acho and DT Darnell Dockett now goes fully to Acho. And the late-second-quarter sack divvied up between S Adrian Wilson and DT David Carter now goes all to Wilson.


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70 Responses to “Sanchez Verdict ‘Wasn’t Too Big of a Shock’”

  1. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Waiting for the Sun on Dec 5, 2012 | Reply

    Nothing shocks Sanchez, he thinks he’s entitled to the job. One day he’ll be in for a big shock, but probably not until this team is 1-15 and this whole franchise stops behaving so insincerely. The Jets have been bad many times, but I can’t recall them ever trying to sell us a bill of goods like they are now. This column itself sounds like if was written for Pravda at the height of the Cold War.

  2. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Waiting for the Sun on Dec 5, 2012 | Reply

    The following post is from some guy who calls himself Kiss The Rings On Your Way Out, he posted it on Cimini’s ESPN story about Rex starting Sanchez: “This is what the Jets have become under WRecks Ryan: Everyone will be watching a meaningless Jets game this weekend, not to see a playoff race or a great game, but to see how fast Sanchez fails and if the Buffoonish coach replaces him with another awful talent that the GM put in place for 2012, while we get the occasional shot of the owner hiding in his luxury box. LOL.” Harsh medicine but I can’t really say that some people on this site don’t need to take it.

  3. By Joe on Dec 5, 2012 | Reply

    This is horrible!!!! As a long time Jets fan, for you guys to be sending out sanchez who threw 3 interceptions last week over a mcelroy who through no interceptions and a touchdown with the opportunity for a second touchdown if it werent for the time running out, its just completely insane. Sanchez has been QB for 4 years. The Jets got to the afc championship in his first two years but it wasnt his doing. It was the superior defense and running game. sanchez if anything was the reason why the jets didnt make it to the superbowl. you can ask ANYONE who watches sunday games. ANYONE it doesnt matter who they are a fan of, even during those afc championship years mark still looked like a bad QB. we fans deserve better. bring out mcelroy!!!!!!!!

  4. By bill on Dec 5, 2012 | Reply

    Well I’m totally disgusted by this decision. There is no upside to playing Sanchez. The season is over let’s see what McElroy can do.

    I’ve supported Sanchez all along, but that last game was my breaking point. He is simply never going to be anything but average. And I don’t want average.

    Rex you should be fired for making this decision.

  5. By scjoe on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    “The Sanchez verdict was not to big of a shock” Why? Because this is the NY Jets we are talking about! But the real question remains, does Mark Sanchez really give this team it’s best chance to win as Rex loves to preach? Well lets just break it down, in plain sight. WITH Sanchez starting the Jets are 4-7 and were on the verge of being 4-8. THEN, behind 3-0 in comes McElroy, he leads the team to the winning TD and then, what should have been a second TD, not to mention the energy he brought to the field and to the stands. So, lets re think that now, based on what we have seen with our own eyes, who gives you the best chance to win? Remove the politics, play to win! Man up, admit your mistakes.

  6. By Arte Olde School Section 327 on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    PLAIN AND SIMPLE:
    1) The next game we lose will be because of Mark Sanchez
    2) The next game we lose, Rex will give credit to the other team for the win
    3) The next game we lose, Rex will say we have to play better
    4) The next game we lose, Rex will say we have to protect the ball
    5) The next game we lose should be Rex Ryan’s last as a Head Coach
    6) The next game we lose we’d actually win if Greg McElroy was starting
    7) The next game we lose will be because of Rex’s inability to “change” (INSANITY = The SAME OLD JETS ALL OVER AGAIN
    8) The next game we lose proves this front office sealed their fate by giving Mark guaranteed money. Why? IT’S THE BLIND LEADING THE BLIND! &
    IN THE LAND OF THE BLIND, THE ONE WITH ONE EYE RULES! (McELROY)
    HELP!

  7. By IRA on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    I was very surprised by the choice. While i think McElroy will never be a true #1 starter it would’ve been nice to see what he can do for the next 4 games. On the other hand Mark does give you the best chance to win games and thats what they need to do. He has hit rock bottom and he needs to start to get rebuilt just not sure this is the way to do it. Still the offensive talent around him is questionable at best and really i do expect him to play well this week but what does that prooe against the worst D in the NFL. I am rooting for Mark but i believe the 2013 starter is not on this roster as of right now.
    GO JETS!!!!

  8. By IRA on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    While this all isn’t on Mark clearly he struggles against teams with good D’s. In 5 games against bad D’s he is 3-2 with 8 TD’s and 3 INT’s and a 67% comp per. In 7 games vs good D’s he is 1-6 with 4 TD’s and 10 INT’s with a 45% comp per. These #’s tell me he will play very well these last 4 games maybe struggle in Tenn thats it. Then they need to sit down at the end of the year and draw up a plan to get better all around for 2013

  9. By Allan O'Dane on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    Sanchez Supporters Give me 5 things about Mark that makes him a good NFL QB. Just 5…..

  10. By ron alexander on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    I dont think there will be a lot of posters here today saying they were surprised by this decision.Disappointed perhaps but no surprises. On another note, I do think its time to give credit where credit is do. Last season and during this years pre-season a lot was made about how bad our O-line was playing. Now I’m not gonna nominate any of our guys to the pro bowl this year but I do see a lot of improvement. Mangold has been solid,Brick has picked up his play from last year & Moore & Slauson have been decent as well. The biggest difference has been how much of an upgrade Howard has been over Hunter. Hey, he’s not great,but at least our backfield doesnt look like a subway station at rush hour.

  11. By SCfromNY on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    I guess all the players in the lockeroom are behind Sanchez 100%. Strange that when McElroy entered the game you could feel the excitement and the players looked as if they stood up taller were ready to win. Sorry, but Sanchez will NEVER have that effect. He is a nice guy, hard worker, and dedicated to getting better. It probably will never happen. I am sure everyone out there has a hobby or job that they want to excell at. Unfortunately skill, physical attributes, and mental ability, (for whatever endeavor), holds you back. Just because you can not quickly “read” a defense or anticipate moves in chess does not mean you are limited in other endeavors. Unfortunately for some of us loving something doesn’t translate into ability.

  12. By Karan on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    Give Sanchez another chance next season! His last one in fact, but just one more! Get a great supporting cast, thats all I ask!

  13. By Allan O'Dane on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t understand how some people are saying McElory isn’t the answer..How do you know that? Did NE know Brady was the answer when he was a back up to Bledsoe? He was drafted in 6th rd. G-Mac was drafted in 7th. Played under Saban at Bama which plays some of the top defenses in college football. Marty Lyons stated that Greg started 27 games and was 24-3. Brady started 25 games and was 20-5. All Brady needed was a chance, I think G-Mac deserves an opportunity.

  14. By Allan O'Dane on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    Here’s 5 things Mark doesn’t have:
    1. Intangibles
    2.Mental toughness
    3.Decision making skills
    4.Good field vision
    5.Leadership
    Now you tell me who scouted Mark Sanchez? He was on a team at USC that was loaded with talent so you really couldn’t see his flaws. Those 2 AFC championship games, well that was a product of a great running game, O-line and a top 5 defense. So that covered up a lot of flaws too. Because we couldn’t see what Mark was until his back was aganist the wall. So now, his weakness is showing. Luck is doing fine with a rookie TE and an aging WR…so you tell me…”Mark gives us the best chance to win”…

  15. By J. Caldwell on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    Rex Ryan, your boy Sanchez, had a roster last year LOADED with talent! Yet most of the games last year, he couldn’t even drive his team 10 yards for a first down until the second quarter. In the end, we (and I say we) because I’ve been a Jets fan for 30 years, we were 8-8. This year, with a roster with far less talent, we are even worse—and of course, Sanchez is worse.

    I applauded you last week for finally seeing what an entire stadium full of people know to be true……Sanchez is done in NY. Couldn’t you sense the energy in the stadium? Couldn’t you sense the energy of your offense AND defense?

    I’m very disappointed with you Rex Ryan. Mark Sanchez does not give our team the best chance of winning! Start McElroy or Tebow.

  16. By Rich on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    It was obvious during last year’s preseason that McElroy had more potential than Sanchez, yet Tannenbaum bought in Tebow this year giving the Jets the two most overrated QBs in the game. McElroy should start the remaining games this year to see if he’s the team’s QB of the future. Ryan is delusional that he thinks the Jets still have a chance at a wildcard berth.

  17. By Jersey Rich on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    Because of health (and age) reasons, I am not getting to the stadium much, BUT, I was there last week. Any excitement that was there, was gone as soon as Mark threw the first interception. The crowd was just not very interested from that point on. We were just anticipating what bonehead move Mark would do next. When McElroy came in, the place became loud and exciting. The crowd got into the game as if we were in a play-off. The place was ELECTRIC! Not sure if G-Mac is our guy, but I feel Mark will never be able to win back the Home Crowd.

  18. By Frank on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    Ira…I am really surprised you of all people who should know better state McElroy will never be a true #1? What the heck does that mean? Why because he was drafted in the 7th round?
    Really it is an absolute joke that anyone can make any statements about McElroy’s capabilities until he actually plays some games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    This I DO KNOW Sanchez is a horrible QB who has consistantly ranked in the bottom tier or QB’ for 4 YEARS!!!!!!!!!
    He has the second most turnovers in the NFL during his tenure. He compares to some of the biggest first round busts in the NFL by QB rating. This regime has proped him up by smoke and mirrors since the beginning. All his positive stats come after games are decided or against marshmellow defences anyone who

  19. By Frank on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    …actually watches all the games like some of here so see clearly he holds the team back. The only credit he gets is for not screwing up in the playoffs thats it! Against the Colts after Greene went down in the second half he imploded and couldn’t carry the team. We then became the first team in NFL history to not make the superbowl having the number 1 defence and running game for the year. In the Steelers game all his stats came in the second half when we were down 25-0. He failed to get it done in crunch time. He has consistantly for 4 years been bad with a few shining moments.
    If Sanchez were on any other team he would have been benched already. Reid pulled the plug on Vick and Harbough pulled the plug on Smith both significantly better

  20. By Frank on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    …than Jamarcus Sanchez!!!!!!!!!!!

  21. By Frank on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    The entire regime has degenerated to the Kotite years other than a better record it seems the dysfunction from top to bottom is even worse than then! I hate to say this but I am finding almost impossible to root for success knowing the current cast of characters will not get us anywhere. It really is time to clean house and start over WITHOUT SHORTCUTS.

  22. By IRA on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    The Jets have never won a game in Jacksonville. They are 0-3 and the last time they got smoked 41-0. Time to get a win down there.
    Alan,
    Mark was headed in the right direction after 10 and they changed their philosophy and way too much change with the players around him. It is what it is right now.
    Those 5 things well 4-2 in the playoffs and those come from behind games in 10 are nothing to sneeze at. Its too bad he has gone backwards since especially after being rated the #1 RZ QB last year. Hope he can get his career back on track either with the Jets or another team.

  23. By JetBlue on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    The only thing that surprised me about this decision is that Rex waited until Wednesday to announce it. I thought he’d come back Monday and say that Sanchez was still the QB. Allan: Don’t hold your breath waiting for those 5 things Sanchez does well. Naming 1 would be a challenge. But here goes: Fumbling, throwing inaccurate passes, throwing INTs, getting sacked, being grossly over-paid. Karan: Give MS a chance next year? Sure, let’s give him more money also. If Rex and MS are back next year, I’m done watching this joke of a team. I’ll wait it out until Woody sells or wakes up and smells the stench. Real long-time Jet fans can’t stand it anymore. We care that everybody in sports is laughing at us. Maybe you’re ok with that.

  24. By scjoe on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    Ira, we have both been around this team for a very long time now. You are a knowledgeable fan, I like to consider myself one as well. That said, I have heard the phrase “Mark gives this team it’s best chance to win” so often now that it is becoming comical. Now you say it in your post above, so PLEASE, explain to me exactly how “MS gives this team it’s best chance to win?” Compared to what? He is 4-7 as a starter and was on the verge of becoming 4-8 before G Mac came in. There have been 6 games this year under MS where they scored 10 or less. How can that possibly equate to “the phrase” In a little more then a quarter G Mac drove the team to what should have been 2 TDs. Coincidence?

  25. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom More Tired of Waiting Than Ray Davies on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    Interesting, Arte, that your conceptual-art post says essentially the same things as Ira’s more traditional posts. Then again, everybody here today is pretty much saying the same thing, which is the Jets under Rex have become this blind, denial-ridden org that runs entirely on politics without the slightest concern for results. Well, I pretty much despise politics, especially when it’s as nakedly inept and unproductive as that, so I’m officially rooting for this team to get crushed in every game for the rest of this yr and all of next yr until Woody gets serious or gets lost. Nothing less is worth my time. As Jennifer Warnes (not a great lead singer but great backing up Leonard Cohen) sang, I know a heartache when I see one.

  26. By scjoe on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    Karen, the sad truth is Mark Sanchez probably will be given a (5th.) chance next season, so that should make your day, but make no mistake, it is not because of his ability, or because he truly “gives his team the best chance to win” it will be strictly because of his salary, his extension, his draft position, and because of the fact this sorry FO refuses to acknowledge their terrible and expensive mistake. So, I ask you, from one Jet fan to another, is that really what you want for this team? Do you really believe it is ALL the other people around him EVERY season, or just maybe it is him?

  27. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom More Tired of Waiting Than Ray Davies on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    And some quick points that hardly need mentioning, but just for the record: Goodell’s idea of eliminating kickoffs is not just the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard, but conclusive proof that he’s all for destroying the game on ridiculous whims. I wish Keller no personal harm or pain but I’m not upset that he keeps having injuries that keep him off the field because otherwise Mr T would surely throw a ridiculous contract at him next yr that he in no way deserves. And yes, Arte, read Cimini’s piece on Henne, with him playing better than Sanchez we could definitely lose on Sunday. Of course, more embarrassing losses are exactly what this franchise needs if it’s ever going to move forward…

  28. By ron alexander on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    IRA, I cant imagine why you of all people would be even mildly surprised by Rex starting M.S? Really, S.C.Joe said it best above. Most of us here are not surprised and I’m think’n at least 95% agree that Mark does not give us the best chance to win. No way anyone is gonna convince most of us here this decision was not financially motivated. If McIlroy started and played well there is no way Rex or Tanney or even Woodie would have been able to sell Mark to Jet fans. I’m sure the organization is hopeing Mark succeeds so they can better shop him during the offseason.

  29. By Jake on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    Being from the pacific northwest I don’t get to see a ton of jet games live this season, So I have to listen jets radio network on my computer. I can watch the games after they are over on NFL GAME REWIND on the NFL network. I have been a Sanchez supporter for every game up until the 49’rs game this year. I got a little hope back after the houston game, but that as taken away after the second miami game. There was no reason to watch or follow any other Jet games until the culture of this team changed. When they finally gave McElroy a chane last sunday I came back to life as a jet fan, Yelling J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS as loudly as I could, annoying everyone in my house with cheers for my green and white. This team has nothing to play for…

  30. By Larry Kamp on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    Although this is not a popular decision, it is the only way to go. McElroy has small hands, weak arm, but very smart and can manage the game. IF we get back to a top defense in the league, there is a possiblity that McElroy will work, otherwise he is a second QB and that’s it. Mark needs the chance on the road in these next two games to see if he can come off the bottom and to see if the team respects him enough to play hard. YOu might as well find out now. You need to find out now, once and for all. Either way we need to draft a QB in the 3 to 5 round and hope that we get someone to develop. First and second needs to go to RB and OL. Unless we pick up Jake Long from Miami as a FA in the off season, then we can go for LB and RB .

  31. By bill on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    This is such nonsense. The players clearly want McElroy in there. A blind man could see that by their actions on the field last Sunday.

    I expect more lousy play from Sanchez and another benching this season. Unfortunately it will probably be Tebow at that point and he is worse than Sanchez is.

    Why can’t pro coaches ever see what is so obvious to everyone else? Is it cronyism? Is it loyalty? Whatever. McElroy deserves a shot.

  32. By Tom Spicer on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    By the way the guys who have been giving me the business for saying we should look at Matt Barkley. I want you to know he is not even my top choice for QB he will be long gone before we pick but the guy I would want the Jets to take if he were there is Geno Smith West Virginia. I got this from “Walterfootball” Smith has completed 70 % of his passes this season for 3,597 yards, 37 touchdowns and 5 interceptions. The senior signal-caller has an excellent skill set. He is showing his intelligence and field vision by working through his progressions and looking off safeties. Smith has some natural accuracy with good arm strength to make all the throws. He can fire some fastballs into tight windows with phenomenal ball placement to hit

  33. By Tom Spicer on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    receivers in stride. Smith’s plus mobility allows him to pick up first downs with his feet and bail out his offensive line. As a Junior He completed 66 percent of his passes for 4,385 yards with 31 touchdowns and seven interceptions. Smith also ran for 180 yards and two scores. As a Sophomore Smith completed 65 percent of his passes for 2,763 yards with 24 touchdowns and seven interceptions. It goes on to say Smith shows the arm to be quality passer with some natural accuracy. He has earned a reputation as a very hard worker and true student of the game who puts in a ton of time in the film room. Smith is a good athlete who could fit well in a West Coast offense.” This is the kind of guy we need A Senior 3 year starter who has a cannon

  34. By Tom Spicer on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    & is accurate. I have watched multiple games he played this year & I am impressed with this kid. Marc Bulger from Ram who lead a explosive O in Saint Louis I am sure you guys remember him. Geno Smith broke his passing TD record at West Virginia as a Junior & came back & broke it again as a Senior. This is also after that fact that this year they played against better competition in a better conference.

  35. By TIM on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    1. ($8 MILLION) reasons why REX RYAN is (STILL) playing SANCHEZ!!!

  36. By russ on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    Sanchez starts because Tannenbaum would look the fool for picking him number 1, paying him 50 million plus and using a 7th rnd pick to lead the team….this is purely a business decision…never love a team that doesn’t love you back….winning is and never will be the goal of this franchise….

  37. By SCfromNY on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    I do not understand all the “weak arm” comments about McElroy. He is not RG3 or Cam but from what I have seen in college and preseason he can make the throws. Can he sit back and throw 75 yard hail mary like Rodgers? NO! But not many QBs can.You have 32 teams and maybe 5/6 “elite” QBs. You have many other winning QBs. You can not win or go to a SB every year. Peyton has only won 1 SB but his winning seasons, leadership, and competitive persona all contribute to being elite. The Jets do not need an elite QB. It would be great to find one but you can have a QB who wins constantly, keeps you in games, and is the face of the franchise. A QB who makes you want to watch and root for him. Karan: Are you related to Sanchez?

  38. By MIKE on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    Allan O’Dane

    1) He can throw a pepsi bottle
    2) Dating Evan Longoria
    3) Wears under armor
    4) Is listed as QB under NY depth chart
    5)

    Sorry Allan, couldn’t do it.

  39. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom More Tired of Waiting Than Ray Davies on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    I’m genuinely happy to see so many fans, both in these stories and on Eric Allen’s blog, saying that they’re done rooting for this team until it gets serious. When you follow a joke of a franchise like the Jets, it’s unrealistic to think your level of enthusiasm can stay equally high at all times. Heck, half the folks who get married can’t even manage that! But I’ve never missed a game since becoming a fan, having either attended, watched, or (back in the days of local blackouts) listened on the radio. That doesn’t mean I have to view the games in the same way at all times, though. If it takes more failure to bring this utterly dishonest, manipulative, and most of all clueless edition of the Jets to an end, I’m perfectly fine with that.

  40. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom for Change You Can Believe In on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer, having criticized you for citing Sanchez’s stats so often, I applaud you for citing the stats of possible QBs who can rescue us from this mess. Thanks for turning your energy in a TRULY positive direction — those who think endlessly making excuses for awful FO decisions, coaches, and players represents positive action are playing with the wrong deck or an empty one. scjoe, that’s a very civilized plea you’ve made to Ira. I too have to wonder why some fans seem to embrace mediocrity as they get older, which is something I have no time for in any arena. It’s sentimental at best, soul-killing at worst, and we’re going nowhere until Woody knows we’re not going to engage in that anymore, especially when it comes to opening our wallets.

  41. By scjoe on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    agree SCfrom NY. Lets remember Jamarcus Russell who actually WAS able to throw the ball 75 yards downfield from his knees. How is that working out for him? As I have stated before, give me the guy with all the intangibles over the guy who simply has the rocket arm any day. Now, that said, next thing to find out “for sure” is if G Mac actually does have all of those intangibles. For me, there is only one way to find out for sure, and as of now, that has gone by the wayside.

  42. By Jet Fan Since We Had an Elite QB Tom on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    As for Eric’s question “How Will Sanchez Respond?,” the answer is disappointingly at best, disastrously at worst as seems to have become his usual range of performance. And by the way, Eric, per your blog, you get paid to cover this miserable team, us fans do it by choice. So there’s a time when maybe you start rooting for change instead of the status quo because you’ve finally taken enough punishment. No true fan wants to lose contentedly or, as Lombardi famously said, “Show me a good loser and I’ll show you a loser.” We got a lot of losers around here arguing that Sanchez deserves endless chances, and we’ll keep losing as long as Woody thinks enough of us see things that way.

  43. By scjoe on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer, THAT was college! THIS is the NFL! Want an explaination? Two words….Jamarcus Russell!!!! Two more words? Mark Sanchez!!!!!

  44. By NOEL PENLVER on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    THE JETS DO NOT NEED AN ELITE QB TO WIN JUST ONE THAT DOES NOT COMMITT THE KNUCKLE HEADED MISTAKES THAT MS DOES. TEBOW OR MC E WILL FIT THE BILL. ITS NOT THAT COMPLICATED. WHEN YOU ALLOW THE OPPOSING TEAM 2-4 ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES TO SCORE THRU TURNOVERS YOU WILL LOSE MORE OFTEN THAN NOT. RYAN NEEDS TO STEP OUT OF THE FISHBOWL HE IS IN AND SEE WHAT MOST FANS ALREADY KNOW. MS IS NOT THE ANSWER FOR THIS FRANCHISE. BUT RYAN NEEDS TO SHOW DUE DILIGENCE BY NOT GIVING UP ON THE SEASON IT IS HIS DUTY AND HE HAS TO THINK OF THE REST OF THE TEAM. PERSONALLY I HOPE MS PLAYS POORLY THE REST OF THE SEASON SO WE CAN GET OUT FROM THIS CURSE WE ARE UNDER..

  45. By harry-o on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    everyone … stop focusing on the starter ( it will always be Mark)
    the real question is
    will Gmac be active in order to play
    when MS gets benched ?

  46. By AK_Jet on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    SCJOE- I am amazed at how similar our viewpoints are on the state of the Jets, I remember a year ago I commented on why I feel Sanchez was selected, and in order to keep Randy from not posting my comments I’ll phrase it delicatley :) I believe it my be to cash in on a certain cultural group that is responsible for the Cowboys having the biggest following, our owner is a businessman after all… It’s just so disheartening because I do believe that we truly would have 2 superbowls since Rex has been here had we received competent play at the QB position. I am a big believer in Rex as a coach, if nothing else we will always have a “D” that competes, it’s just so sad that we can’t cut bait with one of the most elemental flaws in our team…

  47. By Mike Jet Vet on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Larry Kamp Put Sanchez back in see what he can do before we make a QB change let he show us ? Prove if he’s got it or not. He has shown on a consistent basis for years he has shown he can’t beat good teams let along elites, he has shown us sub par 50% or lower passer rating, he has shown he can’t ever come from behind in any game against any team, he has shown just blitz and he crumbles, he has shown absolutely no pocket presence, he has shown he can’t lead a receiver, has shown he can’t win 2 in a row, he has shown he can’t stop turning the ball over 3-4 times a game. what he has Shown he can’t cut it end of story, Leaving him in will only show how much longer it will take to rebuild,

  48. By Allan O'Dane on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Wow…..Not one person even the Sanchez supporters could give me just 5 things about Mark that “Gives us the best chance to win”…..That’s a wake up call if ever there was one…..And Mike T gets paid to be a GM???????

  49. By Allan O'Dane on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Mike,
    1. During that Pepsi commercial he had nobody blitzing him
    2. Eva is mentally tougher then him
    3. Body armour doesn’t even want him to endorse their product anymore after running into the rear end of Brandon Moore.
    4.QB? Mark is being compared to Rick Mirer and Browning Nagle…If that’s not an insult to ANY QB on any level I don’t know what is.
    5. I got it!…One good thing about mark…I finally got it…Other opposing teams know that they will get at least 2 turnovers from Mark…making him a very giving QB. I knew there was something good about this kid!

  50. By ron alexander on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    J.Caldwell, While I am no Mark Sanchez fan I gotta ask you; what “loaded roster” last year? Are you serious? I certianly hope you are not referring to Mason & Burress? Two guys who were clearly too far past their prime to be of any use.
    In my opinion,last year is where this whole thing fell apart. Tannenbaum fixated on trying to sign Nandhi Asamuagh instead of shoring up the obvious holes we had at R.T, W.R,R.B,T.E & safty. He waited too long as the better F/A’s were scapped up he was left with bargain basement talent like over the hill Mason,Burris & the now infamous Wayne Hunter. Just about every alalyst openly stated that although Sanchez is not a franchise Q.B he was dealt a terriable hand as far as surrounding talent on offense.

  51. By ron alexander on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    IRA, I’m not sure the Jets change their offensive philosophy in 2010 by design. I think it was more of a bye product of Tannenbaum doing such a poor job procuring talent along the O-line. If you recall last year Mangold was injured Slauson played injured & Hunter was a disaster. When your R.B.s are hit as they are takeing the handoff & cant get back to the line of scrimmage its impossable to run the ball. They brought in Mason & Burress not to become an ariel circus, but because they thought B.Edwards was looking for too much money & Mason was supposed to be an upgrade over Cotchery who they viewd as injury prone & slow? Marks problems are simply the fact he has not improved his accuracy & decision makeing.

  52. By ron alexander on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    S.C.Joe, your posts to IRA & Karan were both spot on! The 5th chance is really 2 too many as even the 4th chance which he will get this week is too many. mark has had every opportunity to prove he is the man for the job but it just hasn’t happaned.Quite the opposite in fact. I just dont see how anyone who has watched this train wreck can come here and say that Mark gives this team the best chance to win? i dont get it? As for Karan thinking he deserves a chance next year, well…… I’m gonna pass on this one!

  53. By Tom Spicer on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    SCJoe, Thank you for letting me know that this is the NFL. What I would like to ask you is this instead of pointing out the problems which anyone can do. What is your solution? I unlike you I am trying to come up with one!

  54. By scjoe on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    AK_Jet, interesting point about the “cultural group” I will try not to go there though, BUT, I will agree 100% that Woody Johnson the “business man” is far more active in that roll then he is in Woody Johnson the “sports franchise owner” and THAT is not good for the Jets or for their fans.

  55. By scjoe on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer, my solutions? 1- Mat Moore (who will be a FA) 2- a “possible” trade for Mat Flynn in Seattle (maybe a package involving Sanchez) 3- Alex Smith? 4- Chad Henne who will also become an UFA. You know, guys who actually proved , to a point at least that they can play in the NFL And make no mistake any one of those would be an immediate upgrade to Sanchez, then, an early mid round pick to compete with any one of those above, and McElroy for the starting job.That is about as realistic as you can be and still stay within the cap guidelines.

  56. By Joe on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    You guys ARE FIGHTING ABOUT WHO HAS THE BEST DECK CABIN ON THE TITANTIC AS NEITHER ONE OF THEM ARE NEAR CAPABLE OF LEADING THIS TEAM TO A SB (AND THATS ALL THAT MATTERS )History has shown if you want a LOMBARDI IN THE NFL TODAY A TEAM ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY MUST HAVE AN ELITE QB ( DEFENCE COACHING ECT IS TOTALLY IRREVELANT BECAUSE WITHOUT THE ELITE QB A TEAM AINT WINNING IT ALL )Spread on the first RAVEN STEELER GAME changed over 7 points when PITTS REVEALED ROTHESB WAS OUT (ONE PLAYER IN AN NFL GAME WORTH 7 PLUS POINTS THAT SAYS IT ALL )In the SB ERA 90% OF ALL SUPER BOWL WINNERS WERE QUARTER BACK BY A PRO BOWL LEVEL PLAYER .Now with all the new rules its 100%

  57. By Joe on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    LAST 10 SUPER BOWL TEAMS WERE QB BY THE FOLLOWING ROGERS,BREES E MANNING P MANNING ROTHESB URGER ,BRADY .WE have an OVERPAID BUST OF A WASTED FIRST ROUND PICK (SANCHEZ)who some argue should be replaced by a 7th rounder (Mcelroy )THE FACT THAT McELROY cant possibly ever turn into an elite qb because HE DOESNT REMOTELY HAVE AN NFL CALIBER ARM is IRREVELANT If this ENTIRE DEBATE ECT IS NOT A MICROCASM OF THE HISTORY OF THE NY JETS NOTHING IS lol you guys are FIGHTING OVER BAD VERSES WORSE as i POSTED PREVIOUSLY WHO HAS THE BEST DECK CABIN ON THE TITANTIC .

  58. By Joe on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    This is how PATHETHIC OUR FRANCHISE IS Pitts Charlie Batch(their 38 year old third stringer )just won some comeback award for BEATING THE RAVENS ON THE ROAD IN BALT(300 YARDS PASSING ECT).We are debating here because our 3rd stringer averaged 4 yards a pass in scoring 1 TD against THE CARDS AT HOME .We barely beat the CARDS( THE ONLY TEAM IN FOOTBALL WITH WORSE Qbs than us )

  59. By Joe on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    PS NOEL since the JETS dont need AN ELITE TO WIN MAYBE THEN you can EXPLAIN TO US ALL HOW COME 90% OF ALL TEAMS THAT HAVE WON THE SUPERBOWL WERE QB BY A PRO BOWL LEVEL QB .Winning the SB IS ALL THAT MATTERS ,NINE OUT OF TEN SB WINNERS WERE QUARTERBACKED BY AN ALL STAR PLAYER BUT WE DONT NEED ONE .Are you kidding me

  60. By Jet Fan Since We Had an Elite QB Tom on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I can’t speak for scjoe, Spicer, but the answer is simple: Get an owner with a burning passion to see this team win a couple of Super Bowls, somebody who won’t rest until that’s done. Anyone with that kind of desire wouldn’t tolerate a fraction of the nonsense that we have going on now.

  61. By Arthur Greenspan on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    So coach Ryan ( I use that term loosely) decided that Sanchez gives his team the best chance to win. Huh? Question, when coach Ryan walks the sidelines at the game, does he look out at the field to see what”s going on? Really, does he have any clue as to what he is watching? Sanchez has been a total disaster this season. There has been nothing redeeming about his season! Interception, fumbles, red zone failures, and these are his good features! Come on coach, open your eyes, watch the game, and then decide who should be the QB. McElroy came in, the team became energized, and they won! Enough said. Ryan must be fired. As Tannenbaum! and Sanchez, needs to find a new home.

  62. By Arthur Greenspan on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    I wish to add to my comments earlier. The Jet organization (if you can call it that) has given Sanchez no one to play with , at least no one with talent. Can you imagine being behind center, looking at your receivers and thinking, “these guys stink”. Folks, he hasn’t a pro receiver to throw to. They run wrong routes, they drop balls, they don’t get free…OMG, if I were Sanchez I would run the other way!

  63. By Charliejet on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    OK Allen I will give you 5 good things about Sanchez…

    1) Never late for the game (shows up on time)

    2) Runs off the field fast enough after an interception (very efficient)

    3) Wears his uniform well – shirt is never out.

    4) Is an authority with the clipboard (very elite)

    5) Consistent with the same answers after losing yet again.

  64. By ron alexander on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    AK-JET, I can understand you how you relate to S.C. Joe in terms of his thoughts on the state of the organization. I agree with 95% of his posts. But all I can say about you two being Rex Ryan fans is “oh great, now theres two of you? Hey, this is tough for me as I was until recently one of you. S.C & I have gone back & forth on this one so I’m not gonna start rehashing it now. But I do reccommend we all take a good look at these last 4 games and get back together on this at seasons end.

  65. By SOCALJETS on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Well in my opininon,I believe SANCHEZ has earned the right to one more year,people seem to forget that whan SANCHEZ helped this team reach back to back AFC CHAMPIONSHIP games,has 4 road playofff victories under his belt to prove it,now if he doesn’t succeed next year than The JETS can bench him and go on with Mcelroy,all you fans here think that with Mcelroy you will be in the playoffs next year,good luck with that…

  66. By Joe on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    SOCALJETS wow BACK to BACK AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES =WHICH THEY LOST .YOU NEED TO CHECK OUT AMERICAS GAME 1975 STEELERS FORMER STEELER GREAT DWIGHT WHITE QUOTES ,Two types of teams NOBODY EVERY REMEMBERS OR CARES ABOUT =THE TEAMS THAT LOST THE SB and THE TEAMS THAT ONLY WIN 1SB.WE didnt EVEN GET TO THE SB TO LOSE IT (and that WAS YEARS AGO )

  67. By Byrdman on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    I have been looking for an NFL QB to compare Sanchez to and I found one. The similarities are uncanny! Remember Joey Harrington? Harrington, like Sanchez was a west coast guy, top 5 draft pick to a team which hasn’t had a franchise QB forever. Joey started right away since Detroit fans had been DESPERATE for a legit QB since Leather helmets. Take a look at Joey’s career numbers… they almost perfectly match Marky’s (couldn’t resist) I remember watching Harrington and thinking “decent arm, lightning quick release, good athlete, seems smart when interviewed” whats wrong with this picture? In Detroit fans started calling him a “sissy” he clearly did not like getting hit – The slightest hint of pocket collapse and Joey threw the ball away.

  68. By Byrdman on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Now Joey Harrington is college football TV analyst – good for him, I don’t hate him the way most Lion fans here do. I see a guy with a lot of talent but, perhaps not enough heart or courage to play at the NFL level. Nothing to be ashamed of, most fans heart would skip a few beats in the face of an NFL blitz. Harrington is also a phenomenal classical and jazz pianist, did you know that? Well, there it is – take a look at some of Joey’s football highlights/lowlights if not for the uniforms you’ll swear it’s our own Mark Sanchez. One other thing, Joey was classy, never blamed others, always claimed team was getting better, Sound familiar? – In Detroit people call him “Joey Blue Sky”

  69. By Jet Fan Since We Had an Elite QB Tom on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    What Sanchez mostly did was stop us from going further in the post-season at best, SOCAL, and he failed to step up in the biggest games. Besides, that was two years ago. The last two years have been almost non-stop ineptitude. No one puts up with that in the NFL anymore, as you can see by what’s happened at the QB position in SF (benching a Top 5 QB) CIN (unloading a QB with yrs left in favor of a new one), CAR (drafted 4 QBs in 2 yrs until they got the right one, and even now GaryC doesn’t think they did), and so on. There’s simply not enough desire at present in the Jet FO to build or manage the team that aggressively, and that’s why we’re where we are now.

  70. By GaryC on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    jetfantom,If Newton is superman,I’ll take George Reeves.

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