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Jets-Jaguars: 1st-Half Tweets

Posted by Randy Lange on December 9, 2012 – 2:24 pm

Here are today’s first-half tweets for the Jets-Jaguars game at EverBank Field in Jacksonville, in case you missed them on Twitter. Follow Bob Wischusen, Eric Allen and me for our tweets during each Jets game on https://twitter.com/nyjets.

#RL Jets gameday captains today: Tim Tebow and LaRon Landry.

#RL JAX won opening coin toss, deferred. It’s 4th time opponents have won toss, deferred this yr. Jets record in first 3 games: 3-0.

#RL Mardy Gilyard makes catch on 3rd down, comes up inches short of 1st down. Gilyard’s first NFL reception since 2010.

#EA Antonio Cromartie was in there at WR on the first play from scrimmage.

#RL Jags in RZ, but Garrett McIntyre hits Chad Henne as he throws, Bart Scott picks off. Jets’ 1st takeaway in 4 games all-time at JAX.

#RL Jags in RZ, but Garrett McIntyre hits Chad Henne as he throws, Bart Scott picks off. Jets’ 1st takeaway in 4 games all-time at JAX.

#RL That’s the first time this season JAX has been prevented from scoring in the red zone after 25 successful chance (14 TDs, 11 FGs).

#RL Bart Scott’s INT was his first since 2006 with Baltimore.

#RL Robert Malone gets off 50-yd punt (49-yd net), 13th consec game he’s had at least one 50-yd punt, longest streak by Jets P since ’91.

#EA That was Bart Scott’s first regular season pick as a Jet. He now has 4 INTs in his career.

#EA Stephen Hill, who stepped up last week with 5 catches, getting looked at on the sideline. Hopefully the rookie’s right leg is OK.

#RL Jets WR Stephen Hill has a knee injury, his return to this game is questionable.

#RL Josh Scobee hits 31-yd FG to give JAX 3-0 lead over Jets. Scobee FG-kicking career vs Jets: 7-for-8. Scobee this season: 21-for-22.

#EA All turnovers are reviewed. Don’t think the TD will stand, but the Jets have 2 turnovers in +territory now.

#RL Jets D has no sacks of Chad Henne but pressured him into 3 incompletions for their first three-and-out series this afternoon.

#RL Josh Scobee 55-yd FG attempt to end 1st half is wide left. Scobee hit a 55-yder vs. Jets in Game 2 last season. Jets trail at half 3-0.


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80 Responses to “Jets-Jaguars: 1st-Half Tweets”

  1. By Jet Fan Since We Had an Elite QB Tom on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry, GaryC, can’t resist — don’t hold your breath for the next time Sanchez has a game like the one Newton’s having today, and against a team half as good as ATL…

  2. By scjoe on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    A little better then average game for Mark Sanchez, only one turn over. OK, no TDs, one pass for more then ten yards, but still better then average. Just enough to beat a team with the 31st ranked offense and 30th ranked defense Sad! I can hear Rex now, “see, I told you Mark gives us the best chance to manage the game, oops, I mean win the game”

  3. By BillsJets on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Rex can’t keep startng 3 and out Sanchez, we need to win our remaining games. Beating Jacksonville doesn’t prove nothing.

  4. By Byrdman on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Landry is playing at a pro-bowl level, this guy’s a beast! Do you get the sense he’s auditioning for another team? I don’t understand why Rex doesn’t blitz Landry more? It would be a shame if we lose him, seems like he makes all the tackles. Wonder how Wilson would look at FS? He looks like he doesn’t quite have the speed or quick hips to be a CB in this league. Possible trade: Cromartie to Detroit for a 2nd rounder. I think the Lions want to move NDamukong Suh, would Jets be interested? Imagine Mo,Suh, Ellis, and Coples as our front 4 ? Then we draft a pair of pass rush OLB’s Whooh LOOK-OUT

  5. By GaryC on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I can hear it now from some,this game will catapult the jets to the playoffs,how ridiculous,with a team that has no confidence in their starter to even throw the ball,and who didn’t even suit the quarterback who gives them the best chance.Rex has become to fearful to even make that decision,Sad commentary.

  6. By Jet Fan Since We Had an Elite QB Tom on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Rex is in heaven, he wishes he could win every game this way — throw less than 20 times, “just run the ball,” only ask your QB to make one key throw all game, then say what a hard-fought triumph it was. Only problem is you can only win this way vs one of the worst teams in the NFL, one with maybe the worst D and with a QB even worse than ours and an O with even more starters out. I can see us winning 1 or 2 out of 3 and missing the playoffs or maybe winning all 3 and making them but why bother? What we really need is the highest draft picks possible and a new GM and HC to pick ‘em. But I can’t blame Rex for thinking another playoff appearance might help him keep his job, however meaningless a playoff appearance by this sorry team would be.

  7. By MIKE on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    If McElroy would’ve been active in this game, there is know way the Jets start Sanchez in the second half. Sanchez did nothing in this game to help his team win. It was another win like last week, Very hard game to watch, MS is very lucky that the schedule is so easy the 2nd half of the season. The Chargers won’t be so easy. Even with the Jets D playing so good, Rivers will move the ball. The Jets will need to see a franchise QB show up to beat the Chargers.

  8. By Jet Fan Since We Had an Elite QB Tom on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    From the NFL site: “The Jets have turned back the clock to 2009 in their offensive strategy: Repeatedly run the ball, lean hard on the defense and limit Sanchez’s opportunities. This can be effective against weak competition, but the Jets can’t hide their QB woes forever. Now nearly 4 full seasons into the Sanchez era, the franchise must be deeply disappointed to be playing this way.” Actually, they’ve turned the clock back to about 1945 on O. And no, I doubt Rex is disappointed in MS, this is the only kind of O he understands and the only kind of QB he’ll ever get to play for him as long as he thinks this way. Meanwhile, SEA puts up 58 pts against the team we scored 7 on and the Giants “get back on track” for real with 52 vs NO.

  9. By Bennett on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Well all you Sanchez naysayers. He exploded today for a huge 12 completions for an offensive player of the week whopping 111 yards. Also HE MANAGED NOT TO THROW AN INTERCEPTION FOR A FULL FOUR QTS, although he did fumble one away ( not his fault ) Sanchez had his usual hot out of the gate start with a staggering 57 yards and no points in the first half. against this 2-11 team who are much better than the record indicates. I think he earned his guarenteed 8.2 million and the faith put him as the # 5 franchise pick. I think ( I have to verify this ) that he even improved his rank from 32 to 31 a small but none the less impressive gain. I THINK THE QB PROBLEM HAS BEEN SOLVED, so leave him alone

  10. By Karan on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    If LaRon Landry and Antonio Cromartie don’t make the Pro Bowl this season, especially Landry, I’ll be surprised. The Jets absolutely have to RE-SIGN Landry.

  11. By Karan on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    I keep watching those Cincinnati and Pittsburgh games closely. So glad Dallas and San Diego beat them, respectively. Philadelphia and Dallas once more HAVE to win their games next week. Most importantly, the NYJ need to win every single game that they have left. I really want this team to be the 6th seed. I miss those playoffs already. Indianapolis is a lock-in for 5th, no doubt. Its a battle for the 6th, Steelers, Bengals and the Jets. You know what, I’ll say its a battle once we actually win at least 8, but we all know anything less than 9 in the AFC won’t work.

  12. By Karan on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    I can’t believe the Jets were so close to trading for Edwards earlier this season. Hope they can work something out right now, especially if Hill is out for an extended period of time but those comments won’t do Braylon any good.

  13. By 40 year fan , John on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    The Jets would have a difficult time punching their way out of a wet paper bag …

  14. By Jet Fan Since We Had an Elite QB Tom on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    What’s shocking about your satirical post, Bennett, is that it doesn’t sound that different from the kind of stuff Rex is going to say tomorrow. The kind of stuff I find very insulting, considering I’ve been rooting for this team almost as long as he’s been alive, so I never watch any clips of him anymore. The next clip of him I wanna see is the one of him driving out of Florham Park without a job with this organization. Byrdman, I admire your imagination here but can you tell me what good it’s going to do to get Suh and lose Cro? Especially when I have a feeling that Revis is going to ask for the moon, knowing that he won’t get it and forcing us to deal him, which would be fine with me. Actually, we’re going nowhere for a few yrs anyway.

  15. By Charliejet on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    I dunno – Ryan has lost his enthusiasm (thought he tries to put a positive spin on things) but I think deep down he knows Sanchez is not what he hoped he would be and now he is stuck with him. I was listening to the game on the radio and to hear the announcer saying “Sanchez threw the ball WAY over an open Jeremey Kerley’s head ” same ole’ – same ole’.

  16. By Mike Jet Vet on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Rex’s almanac, book of excuses, >Volume 3< at pressers instill in your players, illusions of grandeur, idiotic statements like great job way to finish a game on O and D this is how you fix it, ..Rex your O and D played a 2-11 team, Who in my opinion were exceptionally lucky to beat.. I have to ask, although I already know the answer..Not dressing G-mac for this game, What was your thinking on why G-mac wasn't dressed to play a game following a game he saved your $60 million failure, could it be you were trying to salvage what little confidence, fragile as it may be, MS might have had the added pressure of looking over his shoulder the poor baby..Well once again your logic has fell apart MS looked and played like MS 3th rate

  17. By SCfromNY on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Bennett, how sarcastic are you. If you take away the 37 yard pass MS was 11 passes 82 yards. See he can throw short. Wow, we barely beat 2 of the worse teams in the NFL. As someone else mentioned Seatlle put 58 on the Cards not 7. You can not even say the Jets “beat up” on a weaker opponent. They barely won. Perhaps there is an upside. The Card & Jax probably the only 2 teams we could unload our QBs to. Sanchez to Cards & Tebow to Jax. A few extra picks in next years draft. Along that line let McElroy start so you can see what he has for 2013 making the trades of Sanchez and Tebow both logical & productive. WAIT! Logical and productive? This is the Jets we are talking about. Players should be embarassed playing for this HC & GM.

  18. By JetBlue on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    WOW!!!! Let’s all get back on the Sanchez bandwagon. Did he look impressive or what? He nailed those 2 & 3 yard outs & dump-offs. He completed one pass to a wide open Cumberland down the middle for a big gain. Other than that, the usual inaccurate passes and some drops. The only thing we gained these past two weeks is dropping down in the draft. Funny how McElroy breathes life into this dead offense and then Rex has him sit out again. It would have been nice to see Tebow play the 2nd half, just for kicks. He would have had the fans cheering for him and added some spark to the O. Were it not for Powell, game might have been different outcome. Sometimes a win is not a win. Just false hope and perhaps another year at the helm for Rex.

  19. By GaryC on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    JetFantom,of course Newton looks good now,there is no pressure on him,Panthers are out of the playoffs.Falcons might be starting there December Swoon.Let the Sham win at least one playoff game,JUST ONE,before he leaps tall buildings in a single bound.

  20. By GaryC on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Jetfantom,don’t disregard the 1940′s when it comes to offense,At least they had Sammy Baugh,Otto Graham and Bobby Layne,Maybe Rex was looking at the line play of those teams and not the quarterbacking when looking at the archival film.

  21. By Bennett on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    What a state of affairs. We have an 8 million dollar, #5 pick, QB who is so bad we are afraid to let him throw the ball more then 20 times against THE 30TH RANKED DEFENSE. A #2 who can’t throw a football at all and a winner buried at #3 who was given a shot an rose to the challange. Only the Jets. The team that stuck with Richard Todd, the #6 pick, for 8 lomg years. A QB that had 30 – 26 – 22, interception seasons plus 40.1 – 50.2 – 51,2 completion seasons amoung other notable achievments like throwing 5 pics in a champ. game. Only the Jets. Why do you think they are known as the same old Jets year after year after year ?

  22. By nytitan on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    No stopping us now! New Orleans here we come!!!!!

  23. By Bennett on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    At the end of last season this team had problems but the were very evident and relatively simple to address by any compentant GM .We needed a tackle and a good one, we needed a WR and a good one, we needed pass rushers, we needed a good back or preferabley 2 good backs and safeties. Was this all we needed ? Coarse not, but if these simple moves were implemented we would have at least been competitive and not a humiliation on national TV. This is basic stuff and does not even address the lack of depth at virtually all positions or the QB situation. THE FIRST MOVE T-BAUM MADE IN SPITE OF THESE BADLY NEEDED FIXES WAS TO RETAIN WAYNE HUNTER, the very first move. He is one of the worst GM’s I have ever seen

  24. By Bennett on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    So lets see how T-baum does. First thing he retains Hunter, gets a WR nobody ever heard of, has to retain Scott, sticks with his average 3rd round back, relies on the draft for a rookie pass rusher, a rookie WR, rushes to give a huge extension to one of the worst QB;s in the NFL. He got lucky with Landry, consenses in the league was he might be done I don’t know if it was his call on Tebow but he sure should have done his best to stop it. He is responseible for this mess, What grade ? Man this is a solid F. If the owner doesn’t see this he really shouldn’t be an owner in the NFL, go the race horse route for your hobby.

  25. By Allan O'Dane on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    So let me get this straight….You give a QB a contract ext. and 8.2 mil not to throw the ball and just hand off? Okay…I was born at night but not lastnight! Let’s face it guys..we are stuck with this QB. Rex only dressed Tebow again just for show for the Jacksonville ticket sales. McElory was inactive because McKnight had a headache?? Didn’t McKnight play? Come on man….stop insulting the fans with your nonsense! McElory DESERVED the right to dress up for that game for coming in and leading this team to a win lastweek.

  26. By Allan O'Dane on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    I am going to play Owner for one day. Mike T..You are no longer GM..you can stay as our cap guy…Welcome Mr.Polian as our new GM. Rex you have been demoted to Def.Coord. If you don’t like it there’s the door. Sparano…it was nice seeing you…Pettine you can follow rex…I’m keeping the D-line coach and LB coach Sutton. “Mr.Cowher..I would like to offer you the HC job…Matt Cavanaugh you’re fired!.
    I am Hiring the O-line coach of the Houston Texans as my Off.Coord. I am hiring the QB coach from the Packers with a raise. If Bill Callahan is still out there I want him as my O-line coach again and maybe Asst.HC. Sighhhhhhhhh….hey…a guy can dream right…

  27. By ron alexander on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Guys, this game turned out exactly how I expected it to. Two terrable offences with two clueless Q.B’s added up to zippo offence?. In Henne’s defence his recievers looked like Steve Hill clones. 5 drops including one that could have gone the distance. I’m sure Ira will be happy with the win but has TOM64 points out above, if we play even a decent team(perhaps Tenn. this week?) this kind of game plan is not gonna work. And befroe anyone comes on here and praises the defence lets look at the facts: Jaz was using it 3rd & 4th R.B’s. Two back up O-lineman. Their #4 W.R started & dropped 3 passes.Yet they gashed us for 144 yds on the ground.Can you imagine if they had their #1 R.B? S.C.Joe, yeah,sadly it was one of Marks better games.

  28. By IRA on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    The thing that bothered me the most about the game was that they came out with no emotion and needed Moore to fire them up at halftime. Nice to see Powell and Greene run the way they did. Cumberland has so much potential i expect big things from him next year. While i was on the fence with the Landry signing i was wrong he has played better than i thought and had a great game. Coples needs to be on the field more.
    Best thing we have finally solved our punting problems i think we finally have a keeper.
    Ugly win but i will take it and move on. You never know whats going to happen.
    GO JETS!!!!

  29. By ron alexander on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Mike Jet Vet, Like you and probably everyone else here I was wondering how we could go into a game with a Q.B on life support, a back up with two broken ribs who hadn’t played a meaningful down all season and then not dress the Q.b who the prevous week saved us from an embarrasing loss? Rex continues to baffle even his staunchest supporters with decisions like this? Ira, while I have to give him credit for getting downfield & actually catching the ball It looked like Comberland was looking for a place to fall down rather than advance the ball? I suppose he was concerned with protecting the ball but he definately left some yards out there?

  30. By Byrdman on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    JetFanTom – It’s hard to find anyone on this roster that another team would covet. I hear Lions “might” be willing to unload Suh because of his self control issues both on and off the field. Suh needs a change of scenery. I’d like to keep Revis, mostly because Jets drafted him and he’s still the best player on our D. We have seen the recipe for beating Brady and (any QB dominant team) it’s relentless pressure up the middle and off the edge. Giants have the blueprint for this with their front 7. Jets need to start closing the huge talent gap with Pats, They just took another step BACKWARD with a meaningless win. In next years draft, every single round, when a stud LB (example) is available, about 15 other teams can grab him before Jets do.

  31. By Bennett on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t even watch the press conferances anymore and I like press conferances. How many times can you hear ” We have to get better- We have to do a better job of protecting the ball- He gives us the best chance to win- The defense stepped it up- They are a good team and on…. and on. Plus that press corp is about as aggresive as Shirley Temple. “Coach do you think Sanchez played well enought to continue as the starter?” ….. give me a break

  32. By Tom Spicer on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Everyone is praising Landry I was ripped when I said it was a good siging in the off season?

  33. By Tom Spicer on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    A few weeks ago I said Wilkerson playing really well & even Coples is starting to play well. I was ripped about how they have done nothing. Did any one watch the game? Wilkerson seems to be the only one who is making plays out there!

  34. By Tom Spicer on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    So the Jets win 2 weeks in a row barley beating 2 of the worst teams in the NFL. What did they accomplish by doing this? Mess up a top 10 possibly top 5 draft pick & now we are like 16 or something like that.

  35. By Tom Spicer on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    As crazy as this sounds if the Jets win out they will be 9 & 7 also 7 & 5 in the AFC. If the Bengals lose 1 game the best they can be is 9 & 7 also 6 & 6 in the AFC. Since we did not play them head to head & we will have a better conference record than them (7 & 5 vs 6 & 6) we win the tie breaker. The Bengals play at Eagles, at Steelers & vs Ravens I will bet anything that they lose 1 of these games. So we really only have to win our games & worry about the Steelers. The Steelers play at Cowboys, vs Bengals & vs Browns. We need the Steelers to lose 2 out of 3 that will make them 8 & 8. Even thou we have a better conference record the the Steelers they best us head to head. So we need them to lose 2 out of 3. To put it in much simpler terms

  36. By GaryC on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    what is this with the Joe McKnight migraines,did Rex think he was going to have a Terrell Davis moment,but this game we were playing was no Super Bowl,you gave any excuse not to dress McElroy.

  37. By Tom Spicer on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    we need 3 things to happen. 1 We need to win out. 2 The Steelers have to lose 2 out of 3. 3 The Bengals have to lose 1 out of 3 & we are in!

  38. By Tom Spicer on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    This is a guy the Jets should take a chance on “South Carolina RB Marcus Lattimore will forego his senior season with the Gamecocks and enter the 2013 NFL draft. Lattimore drew Earl Campbell comparisons as a 6-foot, 218-power back as a freshman and sophomore before tearing his left ACL in October of 2011. He returned faster than expected in 2012, but was clearly not the same player in 2012 and suffered another devastating injury in late October, tearing his right ACL and MCL. Lattimore will be in a similar situation to Willis McGahee in 2003. He is blessed with first-round talent when 100 percent, but may have to sit out the 2013 season. We still expect someone to take a chance on Lattimore on the second day of the draft”

  39. By Bennett on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    What did Yogi say ? Its like de javu all over again ? With Sanchez it brings back memories of the 8 long years of the Richard Todd era. Another #6 franchise pick. His first year he had 3 TD and 12 INT.. yeah he’s our guy. Managed to break 3000 yards passing only twice in 8 years, a true human turnover machine if there ever was one.. What really hurt is the Jets built some really good teams in those years but Todd would just kill you with the turnovers. 42-51 with Jets as starter. Every year it was some variation of the” he gives us the best chance to win” line. Then the get to the champ, game and he throws 5 pics…8 long years before they finally gave up on him.

  40. By TIM on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    1. I am SORRY, but I CANNOT believe this JETS organization gave $8 MILLIONS dollars to a QB like MARK (Interception) SANCHEZ, who is barely COMPLETING 50 % of his PASSES!!!

    2. (SAME OLD JETS)!!!

    3. Now we are STUCK with (MARK SANCHEZ)! Unless you have a (STRONG) RUN game for MARK SANCHEZ, then you have paid $8 MILLIONS dollars for NOTHING!

  41. By Another Tom on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Certainly was a boring game…zzzzz. There are many posts suggesting many sensible changes in off season that sound great to me, but i fear the only coaching casualty will be Cavanaugh. Woody just doesnt seem to have the pulse of his FO..sound familiar?

  42. By Jet Fan Since We Had an Elite QB Tom on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Sanchez rarely performs well whether there’s pressure on him or not, GaryC. How about we take an informal poll on this site: Who would you rather have right now as your starting QB, Sanchez or Newton? I cast the first vote for Newton.

  43. By Byrdman on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    NEWTON all day long. Also, Take a look at Josh Freeman’s career numbers compared to Marks – we should have stayed put in 09 and drafted Freeman, kept the other pick we traded. Watch Kirk Cousins (Skins) a 3rd rounder. Foles (Eagles) looks like a keeper for a 3rd round pick. 30 QB’s are starting in the NFL and playing at a higher level than Sanchez and 3 bums in Arizona. Draft picks are a roll of the dice, the best teams make trades to multiply the number of draft pick they have, hoping to hit on a few, while Mediocre teams like our Jets trade away draft picks and the future in the process hoping to land that one superstar. Remember when Ditka sold his whole draft for Ricky Williams? Wouldn’t Clay Mathews (09) look good in a Jet uniform?

  44. By MIKE on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Winning these games at the end of the season playing against these opponents whom are in worse shape the Jets organization might set this team even further back than they are. Having a mediocre QB that cannot move the ball down the field win these games where he attempts under 20 passes, most of which are screen passes or other high completion percentage passes is doing nothing for his team except prolonging the inevitable.QB change is a must, don’t care how much he gets payed.

    Matt Flynn, Mike Vick, Kevin Kolb, other highly paid QB’s not starting.

  45. By Mike Jet Vet on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    I hate to blow my horn but I’m going to , I made the call on McKnight long ago, him always being sick, it started in training camp his rookie season puking for no apparent reason other than contact, and why he cannot hit the field on a consistent basis..Also made calls on V-G, Sanchez. Vlad, Wilson. so far I’m batting a thousand therefore I feel I’m able to blow the proverbial Horn, No coach I don’t care who they are, keep high draft picks on the bench 2-3 seasons unless they are seriously damaged.. in some form or the other. Our biggest Problem no one in FO Gm coaches notta have an eye ear or nose for talent.. They sure know how to dole out the millions and charge Fans whatever they can get away with …

  46. By GaryC on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    jetfantom,I’d like Megatron too,but you can’t always get what you want.I know you still can’t get over Clowney and the Lam Jones comparison,Let’s see if Superman turns out to be another Vince Young.you know who I compare Newton too in another sport,Wilt Chamberlain,a guy with all the physical tools but not as strong in the mind.

  47. By GaryC on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Scjoe,it looks like we will be comparing Lattimore and Montee Ball,next season.

  48. By Jet Fan Since We Had an Elite QB Tom on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer, you’re a little schized-out today, on the one hand figuring our playoff chances and on the other talking about players we should draft. I don’t blame Rex or the players for wanting to make the playoffs, that’s their job. But since I’m pretty sure that we’d get crushed in the first round of the playoffs, I’m fine with us not making them, drafting higher, and getting some of these guys you’re scouting. As everyone here agrees (including you, ron a), we’ve got a lotta holes in the roster to fill, including at the very top with QB if we’re serious about getting very far in the playoffs.

  49. By BillsJets on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Jets beat the Cardinals 7 to 6, the Seahawks beat the Cardinals 58 to zero, Sanchez better start getting better or bench him.

  50. By kw65fan on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Newton…

  51. By scjoe on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    64, no brainer, I go with Newton.

  52. By cgb on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    I know this is going to sound crazy. but if we surround mark with this years offensive line and keep cotchery,braylon edwards,plaxico and a healthy holmes and keller how much better could sanchez be.We dont throw shotty under the bus, open the offense up a little more spread and flex at the rb position, what do we have then? listen im not saying sanchez is the answer im just saying this team has so many flaws it”s hard to say or to see the truth. New GM let him say who stays and who goes the jets can be back as early as next year if woody does what is needed and gets a first class football man to over see football operations on all levels for this franchise.

  53. By JetBlue on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer: In one post you rightly point out that all we accomplished with these last two wins is losing our spot in the draft. Then, in another post, you are enthusiastically setting the stage for a playoff run. What gives? Nobody wants this team to go to the playoffs to be embarrassed again. It’s quite possible, though still unlikely, that we can win these last three games against teams with losing records. Then what? Is MS going to turn into Eli Manning? Nah. We need to lose, get rid of Tanny, Rex, & Sanchez and begin a new era. The only way we’re going to see any change is when Woody decides to stop accepting the medocre status quo attitude and build for the future. A loss in each of the final 3 games may get us what we want/need.

  54. By SCfromNY on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Nice to hear about Sanchez’s “baby steps”. Are you kidding me? He is a 5th round pick in his 4th year. The games are always close because as soon as Rex gets a 3 pt. lead he shuts down the offense because he is afraid of Sanchez. Look at the Pats, Giant, Packers and so many others. They keep playing. They keep going downfield to show their superiority and make future opponents think twice. How many unbeleivable comebacks have we seen the last 2 years? This is not a game for the faint hearted or cowardly. About Cam: For some reason he keeps getting compared to Sanchez. I think his skill set is better but his attitude JUST LIKE SANCHEZ makes him a loser. His “Superman” act when finally beating a team or meaningless TD is stupid.

  55. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Who's Seen Almost Everything on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    You’re losing the Sanchez vs Newton vote so far, GaryC. SCfromNY leans in your direction but that seems to be because he also buys into the nonsense about how MS “led us” to to AFC championships, when in fact he didn’t lead us anywhere and couldn’t play a complete game when we got there. MJV, there’s no question the draft choices you list have been disappointing in part or whole but I don’t think you can ignore how skittish Rex and his staff are about playing new guys and how bad they are at grooming them. After all, we’re 4 yrs in with Sanchez and he’s afraid to let him run a 2-minute drill at the half vs the worst team in the league…

  56. By scjoe on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    GaryC, although Lattimore declared for the draft, I don’t think he will be drafted in the first round. Possibly not even the 2nd because he will almost definitely miss the 2013 season recovering from his knee injury. But, I can see it now, “with the 10th pick in the first round of the 2013 draft, the NY Jets select Marcus Lattimore RB University of South Carolina”. (Unless) There is no more Millianbaum.

  57. By Tom Spicer on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Carson Palmer, Alex Smith & Matt Flynn are all guys the Jets should be looking at!

  58. By Tom Spicer on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    JetBlue, I am not setting the stage for a fantastic playoff run cause I am pretty sure there is not 1 coming. The post was more to point out that we are that close to the playoffs. With no QB, RB, WR (with Holmes out) & no pass rush. So to me it is pretty amazing that we could make the playoffs with all of this OH SO WRONG!

  59. By Tom Spicer on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    I started a conversation the other day about possibly drafting Geno Smith West Virginia or Matt Barkley USC. Well it was all for nothing I looked at a few mock drafts & they all had Geno Smith going #1 to the Chiefs & they had Matt Barkley going to the Cards in the top 10. These 2 last weeks we barley beat 2 of the worst teams in the entire NFL. The only thing we accomplished is we moved from having the 8th pick in the draft & having a good shot at getting 1 of the top QBS coming out this year. To right now we have the 16th pick. We will win 2 out of our final 3 games miss the playoffs. We will be 8 & 8 so they will bring EVERYONE back & we will have like the 20th pick. LOL only the Jets!

  60. By ron alexander on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    SCfromNY, Great post, I always enjoy reading your stuff but this one is one of the best ever! Not much else anyone needs to say, you said it all! SPICER, first of all, did you take your medication today? Dude,your all over the place?One minuite your lamenting the wins costing us draft posisition,the next your mapping out playoff scenerios?Bye the way, the reason people questioned Landry when we signed him was his injury history & the fact he was not(& still isn’t known) for his pass coverage ability. But on the plus side you were right about Wilkerson.After an uneventful 1st half of the season he has come on & looks great.Coples, not so much.He still has a ways to go.But good job Spice!

  61. By Tom Spicer on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Big article in the paper today about the Jets may bring back Braylon Edwards if he clears waivers. It says that they may put a waiver bid in for him or see if he clears waivers then just sign him as a free agent. I also read on a web site “CBS Sports’ Jason La Canfora reported last week that the Jets were interested in trading for Edwards prior to the trading deadline but nothing happened”. I would take it as a big plus for a few reasons 1 It would show that MR.T is admitting that he was wrong by letting him go. This is something he has refused to do in the past. 2 It may mean he actually FINALLY relized that you cant just focus on D & ignore the other side of the ball.

  62. By Tom Spicer on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    In regards to the Jets bringing back Braylon on NFL.com it says “the reunion appears imminent. The Jets reportedly pursued a trade with the Seahawks for Edwards earlier this season. Now they can grab him for next to nothing,” I am all for it to me in 2010 he was our best WR. He was a big fast tuff WR who went over the middle got blasted & still hung on to the ball everytime. He was a good deep threat & a great blocker in the run game. He was the perfect compliment to Holmes & Mark looked like he was getting better when he had him. Honestly we would be getting him for nothing & I can promise you he will be better than 1 Chaz Schieleins 2 Clyde Gates 3 Marty Gillard & 4 Stephen (I cant catch) Hill.

  63. By GaryC on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    JetFanTom,I vote for Joe Montana in his prime,which is the same chance you have for Newton,Look,I have given up the ship on Sanchez that is why I want to see what McElroy can do,that is why it is a big mistake by management not playing him,He has as good a chance of getting us to the playoffs as Sanchez and would be gaining valuable experience.Let’s see how long it takes Newton to even get to the playoffs before you bail on him,and I don’t want to hear he has no talent around him,after all he is SUPERMAN.

  64. By Tom Spicer on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    “The New York Post confirms the Jets will indeed sign Braylon Edwards if he clears waivers on Tuesday. Credit the “idiots calling the shots” for an open mind just a week after Edwards slammed the Jets brass on Twitter”

  65. By Tom Spicer on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Also if the Jets are looking for a new OC at the end of the year Cam Cameron & Norv Turner are going to be out there for the taking. Which is what I wanted a proven veteran OC instead of a guy who has never held that job before.

  66. By ron alexander on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Newton is a no-brainer over Sanchez! There is no comparison concerning their physical abilities as Newton is biger,faster,better arm,& more accurate. While neither is a “finished product’ Newton won a national Jr. college championship as well as the NCAA big boy championship.Sanchez played a total of 16 college games as he was injured during his Soph. year & unable to get his job back as his replacement outperformed him keeping him on the bench.SPICER, while I agree its a good idea to give Braylon a shot in view of Hill’s injury, lets not get carried away.Keep in mind he was cut by the 49ers last year & the Seahawks this year.
    We are not getting Jerry Rice here.

  67. By ron alexander on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    CGB,Your right, you do sound a little crazy(LOL). Seriously, as Braylon has now been discarded by his last 3 teams(49ers,Seahawks & us) that has to tell you he is no longer the Braylon of old.Speaking of old, Plastico is now what 36 ? He couldn’t get open last year so its doubtful he would be faster or more elusive this year? Cotchery is basically glued to the bench in Pitts. as there are 3 excellent guys ahead of him.Cotch’s problem is his lack of speed which left him open to some big hits.Like R.B’s, W.R’s can only obsorbe so many hits before it takes a toal on the body.Cotch was a warrior no doubt, but he is now suited more as a back-up.And remember,no matter who we line up at W.R, its still Sanchez throwing to them?

  68. By SCfromNY on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Jet fan: Please read my posts more carefully. I NEVER gave Sanchez credit for the 2 championship runs. He was always just a part of the puzzle. I was alluding to the fact that like Cam he celebrates his “good game” that in truth was a middle of the road win. When he does the “Superman” thing after scoring a TD when his team is 4 TDs down shows his immaturity and self centered mentality. Like Sanchez when he fails his press conference and sideline demeanor speak volumes all of them negative. NO WAY this could be interperted as a “pro” Sanchez comment for his 2 champ games never the less anything else.

  69. By kk on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Babylon is back, he was really good for us and himself and shouldn’t have ever left. Bad move by tanny. Only a few games left but hopefully he helps with Sanchez and his confidence.
    Welcome back!

  70. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Who's Seen Almost Everything on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    GaryC, if you persist in the illusion that Sanchez “got us” to the playoffs as opposed to almost keeping us out of them, I can’t help you. Anyway, I’m glad you’ve given up on Sanchez — I’d hate to have to keep making the case for a QB who, after throwing 5 picks vs BUF, walked off the field resting his head on the shoulder of the WR we just got back today like a little kid. As for that WR, Spice, the good news is anybody will help now. The bad news is those injuries must’ve taken a lot out of BE if we were able to claim him on waiver so I agree, that just shows more ineptitude on Mr T’s part. Retreads from old Jets teams are not the answer, a new commitment to playing modern football in order to win big is.

  71. By Tom Spicer on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    Ron Alexander, Your above post is about 99% all wrong. As a redshirt freshman Sanchez sat behind Matt Lienhart. Than for 2 years he was behind John David Booty he never started & lost his job he played a few games when Booty was hurt? Than he started as a Junior & than came out early. In regards to Braylon 3 teams discareded him? At the end of 2010 we had Holmes, Braylon & Cromartie all as free agents. We could not afford to sign all 3 of them to big money deals so we picked Holmes & Cromartie & let Braylon walk. On the 49ers Braylon hurt his knee had surgery & was out a while came back & hurt his shoulder. Instead of paying him for sitting out since his money was not guareented they cut him. The Seahawks had Golden Tate a 1st round pick &

  72. By Tom Spicer on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    Sidney Rice & his $40,000,000 contract so Braylon was not going to play over either of them. The same way the Jets wont play McElroy over Sanchez. His mouth sealed his fate the Seahawks would not have cut him if he was quiet. Yes he is not Jerry Rice there is only one person who ever was. But if he is healthy with Holmes hurt he is the best WR on the Jets & it is not EVEN close! Kerley this year proved he is a decent NFL #3 & a good slot WR nothing more!

  73. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Who's Seen Almost Everything on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    SCfromNY, sorry if you got the wrong idea from that one post, I was really thinking more of some other Sanchez remarks you’ve made, but I’m glad to see you’re not in dreamworld about the guy. He didn’t need a new deal and he does need to win out over some real competition, but Rex is terrified of that. Amazing that all some of us are asking is for MS to beat out some real QBs, like maybe McElroy and a solid vet, but somehow that’s heresy to some who claim to wanna see this team win. Great posts, ron a, I don’t know what GaryC’s thing against Newton is. Sure he seems to have an attitude problem, but Gary’s been the best on pointing out how we seem to love guys like that…

  74. By ron alexander on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    SPICER, really, you wanna get into a debate about Sanchez at USC? Dude, he lost out to John David Booty two years in a row which is why he only started one full season.The most damning thing about his college days was the fact he was by far the more heralded Q.B yet Booty kept him on the bench? And I ask you,how did Booty’s NFL career work out? Sorry Spice, I luv man but you gotta get over this man crush you have for Mark. And Braylon rode the pine in S.F and Seattle for the same problem he had here, dropped passes and attitude issues.Did you not see the terrrable drop he had in the first game of the year? it was all over sportscenter!

  75. By cgb on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    ron alexander, it,s hard to think that braylon is washed up at this point in his carreer, wich i think is what your saying. plaxico caught like 7 TD,s in his first year back from 2yrs removed from football. He was a great red zone target last year and the jets didn’t even think twice about bringing him back. cotchery was a good slot/ possession receiver for the jets would make that tough catch in the middle of the field. The jets rip apart any and every good thing that sanchez and the offense ever had. Instead of adding speed at the RB position and opening / spreading out the offense they subtract value and talent for a more unproven and conservative offense. This is why it’s not all on sanchez and this is why the jets nee new leadership .

  76. By cgb on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    at the GM position. we most definitely need competion at the QB position as all other positions as well. sanchez gets blame here to i do not disagree. The first thing we need more then anything else is a change at the GM position,wich will more then likely effect other managerial positions within the org.

  77. By ron alexander on Dec 13, 2012 | Reply

    cgb, I pretty much agree with everything you are saying. The problem is the key word you use is “was”. Hey, I love Cotchery, a great teammate, made a lot of big 3rd down catches.But again, he took a lot of big hits and if you think back to Al Toone, a very simular abrupt Jet ending.Toone was great but the hits he took led to concussions that took there toal.Braylon is Braylons own worst enemy.Cant keep his mouth shut, wears out his welcome,gets discarded by his last 3 teams?Plaxico? Hey, does the fact that nobody else wanted him tell you anything?He did make a few nice plays last year no doubt. But it was the plays he didn’t make because he couldn’t get seperation from his defender that led to him not getting signed.

  78. By ron alexander on Dec 13, 2012 | Reply

    cgb, as for Mark, hey I was one of those that until recently supported him as well. I thought he was unfairley judged as Tannenbaums failure to surround him with a strong supporting cast clearly hurt his developement. But, after reading so many posts here by guys like S.C.Joe, JOE, Tom64 and others that focused on his inaccuracy as a passer,poor pocket awareness and poor decision makeing i have to admit, I just couldn’t justify his poor play any more.

  79. By Tom Spicer on Dec 13, 2012 | Reply

    Ron Alexander, For the 49ers Braylon played 2 games hurt his knee had surgery missed 6 weeks because of it. Came back played 4 games hurt his shoulder than got cut. He was not “riding pine” he was hurt multiple times. As far as the Seahawks yes there he was sitting the bench. Also you said Sanchez “unable to get his job back as his replacement outperformed him keeping him on the bench” in this quote you are implying he was the lost his job & was not able to get it back which did not happen. Also Booty was a junior & a senior when he started HE BETTER HAVE beat out Mark as a freshman or sophomer or else he really REALLY would be garbage!

  80. By ron alexander on Dec 13, 2012 | Reply

    Spicer, if you take a close look at the chronology of Marks time at USC you will see He was way more highly regarded than Booty. Mark was the Cali highschool player of the year as well as the national player of the year.. He was recruited to succeed Lienhart.Booty came from the southeast I believe Alabama or Louisianna?Not sure? Anyway, he redshirted his Fr. year but the following spring got in off the field trouble. That spring he lost the battle for #1 to Booty which was a big upset. I believe Booty got hurt later that spring or summer which opened the door again but he couldn’t keep the job as he failed to impress the coaches in Booty’s absence.My point is he had ample opportunity to start but lost out to a guy who wasnt a nfl calaber QB

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