Comments on: Mike T Issues a Parting Statement

By: Ronbo19

Ronbo19 — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:43:59 +0000

J.F.Frank, I see your point about R.G.III but keep in mind his injuries are more a product of his coach running him on designed running plays which in todays NFL is Q.B suicide.I dont care how big & strong(like Tebow) or fast like Russell Wilson Or R.G.III a Q.B is, if they insist on running the ball they will get hit & they will eventually get hurt.As has been stated here by others like TOM64, S.C.Joe,& Joe Capps, pocket passers win championships!As I have been trying to say, tying up big money on O.lineman is not a goodidea when you have salary cap issues plus a lack of play makers like we do.Especially when we already have 2 guys makeing big bucks like Brick & Mangold.

By: Ronbo19

Ronbo19 — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:17:50 +0000

JETFAN FRANK, Yeah, a lot of players are gonna rise up the lists & of course a simular number will fall. Heres the way i see it. Our pass rush is the only thing holding us back from being a top level defence. As there are only 5 or 6 guys in this draft that are really good passrushers and worthy of a top 10 pick.But there are at least 10 to 15 O-lineman that will be picked in the top 50 picks I think we need to go OLB as we get a top guy in RD.1 plus a really good O.L in the early 2nd rd.Also, Taylor Lewan is not coming out this year anyway.With C.Pace & B.Thomas hopefully not coming back we have no starting calaber OLB’s on the roster(unless you think Guy McIntyre is the answere?)

By: By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank

By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank — Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:56:05 +0000

Ronbo19.. I really like your list of draft picks. But after the RG III incident, I feel a lot of teams that do not have good pass protection are going to go for big, fast offensive linemen, especially our JETS. Prime example, McELROY concussion, MS, how many sacks and rushes (I am not a MS FAN), and how about McElroy 11 sacks in one game. YUP, we need a good playmaker on Defense. Bit our offense is BAD…

By: By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank

By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 23:24:44 +0000

RONBO I am with you on some of your choices, but my choice for the number 8 pick would be OL – Talyor Lewan of Michigan – he is 6′ 7″ tall and 310 pounds. But you have some great picks up there… In the second round I like OL Oday Aboushi of Virginia – 6′ 6″ tall and 310 pounds…

By: By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank

By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:22:41 +0000

Jack, YES, there are some good defensive players coming out this year. But I feel we have a pretty solid defense, all we need is DT like WATT. With Revis coming back and by adding a DT as good as WATT, they will even be better. What we do not have is big offensive linemen that can block for a GOOD QB and open holes for RB’s…

By: Ronbo19

Ronbo19 — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 17:48:19 +0000

JET FAN FRANK, please keep in mind there will be very good O.L we can get with the #8 pick in Rd. 2 like; D,.J Fluker from Bama,Oday Aboushi O.T. Virginia,Possiably Barrett Jones from Bama,Jonathan Cooper o.g from Ga. Larry Warford OG Kentucky,Lane Johnso O.T Oklahoma,Dallas Thomas O.T Tenn.or even Kyle Long from Oregon. As you can see there are plenty O.linemen, but few pass rushers after the first Rd.In Rd.3 we could take a chance on a Q.B like Zack Dysert from Miami Ohio or Mike Glennon N.C.State or Tyler Bray? Stay with me on this stuff Frank, I have no life so I’m all over this stuff!

By: Ronbo19

Ronbo19 — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 17:33:05 +0000

JET FAN FRANK64 Pretty much everyone you mentioned on your draft wish list is a first rd. guy? As we only have the #9 pick in the 1st Rd how are we gonna draft all those guys? As much as I agree with you that we need offence, its looking like the following 10 guys will be available to us.Keep in mind, if we take an O.l in the 1st Rd there will be no playmakers like these guys available in RD.2
1-Star Lotuleli D.T Utah- 2.Damontre Moore OLB Tex.A&M- 3.Bjorne Werner D.E,OLB Fl.St-4. Luke Joekel O.T. Tx A&M- 5-Jarvis Jones OLB Ga. 6-Dee Milner C.B Bama 7-Keenan Allen W.R. Cal. 8-Barkavous Mingo OLB LSU, 9-Taylor Lewan O.T Mich. 9-Deon Jordan OLB Oregon 10-E.Reid S LSU Now, this will change by April & teams will surley reach for a Q.B cont.-

By: Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Playin' Those Mind Games Forever in Jetland

Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Playin' Those Mind Games Forever in Jetland — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:03:16 +0000

Nice to see we’re still on the same page re QB and WR, Ronbo. scjoe, one can obviously scheme to produce a bad outcome (how would Tom Brady do with Gates and Schilens — the answer is a lot better than Sanchez!), and you’ve been trying to make this pt about Peterson for a wk. But I guess you saw how a MIN team with JUST Peterson and no QB has zero teeth vs anybody good. I don’t say you still don’t need good RBs. I just say Jet fans are so used to Rex’s nonsense that they can’t even envision, say, a Brady throwing to a Fitzgerald, a V Jackson, and a A Gates in green and white. 64 Frank, that’s a clever strategy for getting a top OT and still adding some top playmakers on O but unless you can pull off ALL those picks, it’s a bit risky, no?

By: Mark F

Mark F — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 03:28:03 +0000

My concern is if Ryan stays Sanchez will remain QB. Why does he hold on to players that have failed him. Wayne Hunter is another example and one of the reasons Sanchez is a mess.

By: Jack

Jack — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 01:08:47 +0000

Continued OT, Luke Joeckel Texas A&M and I wouldn’t be surprise if the Jets take CB, Dee Milliner Alabama or WR Keenan Allen Cal, IF All of those others players are all gone. 2nd Rds OT/G Dallas Thomas OT/RT Ricky Wagner RB, Marcus Lattimore, QB, A.J McCarron 3rd WR, Kenny Still Oklahome.

By: Jack

Jack — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 00:58:57 +0000

64 Frank, OT, Jeff Mathews is thinking about staying for his Sr, year. I do agree with you that the Jets needs OT/RT and a RG, But there are to many good defensive players that going to be taking with in the 1st 10 Rd’s. Woody Johnson said today that they are going to take the best available players that are there went the Jets picks. Jets needs LB’s real bad here are 3 top’s LB’s that are going to gone within the 1st 15 picks. OLB, Jarvis Jones Georgia. OLB/DE, Damontre Moore Texas A&M and ILB, Manti Te’o Notre Dame may fall some after a bad game with Bama. DE, Barkevious Mingo LSU, IF all of these players are gone then I can see the Jets taking a OT/G Chance Warmack Georgia who i really like the best others Taylor Lewan Michigan OT,

By: Jack

Jack — Tue, 08 Jan 2013 23:58:30 +0000

Just seen that Bill Cowher is thinking about Coaching again but most likely it will be next year this way that will give time for Rex Ryan to mess it up next season went he should be fired then this way Jets can hired Cowher as the HC, and the GM,.

By: By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank

By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank — Tue, 08 Jan 2013 18:22:41 +0000

TOM 64, I know this is wishful thinking but this is how I would like to see the draft go…We have the 1st round number 8 pick. In this spot Jeff Mathews OT, Texas A&M; If we can get another 1st rounder in a trade then Geno Smith QB, 2nd round Terrance Smith WR, Baylor, Geovani Bernard RB, NC after these players somewheres in the 3rd round DJ Fluker, OT Alabama and after wathing him play last night he would fit right in. We need offensive players and maybe 1 or 2 defensive players. But this is going to be a good draft for offensive players. It’s too bad the Jets are not talking to Gruden’s son. Sure would like to see that also, imagine the advise Jon Gruden would give his son….

By: scjoe

scjoe — Tue, 08 Jan 2013 16:42:26 +0000

hold on 64, I take that personally! Because although I agree that the QB is THEE most important position on the field, I do not think a WR is as well. You could make the argument that both a RB and a LT are just as, or even more important then a WR. How efficient can a QB and WR be with a turnstile LT? As for the RB, how do you think an Adrian Peterson would have helped Jamarcus Sanchez and the NY Jets offense in 2012?

By: Ronbo19

Ronbo19 — Tue, 08 Jan 2013 16:39:47 +0000

GUBSTER, Nice job dude, obviously I ditto my man 64′s sentiment. I’m reading people here advocating takeing an O-linemen with out #9 pick. I’m trying to get people to see that no matter how good one O.T is he is only one 5th of a line. Better to have 5 good o-linemen than one stud and 4 so-so guys.Playmakers make plays! Runningbacks have short shelf lifes and are prone to injuries.Give me a guy who can stretch the field and open up the running game and i will give you a difference maker. The Jets need these types of guys now! I’ve seen all the “groung & punt I need to see!

By: Jet Fan Since '64 Tom and Still Bringin' It

Jet Fan Since '64 Tom and Still Bringin' It — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 23:09:05 +0000

Gubster, I haven’t seen your posts before but you woulda liked the exchange that me and Ronbo had a few days ago about how QB and WR are the most important positions in the NFL today. Anyone who thinks otherwise, like Rex and a lot of folks on this site who’ve accepted losing as the Jets’ inevitable fate, is just on another planet.

By: By Gubster333 fan for life.

By Gubster333 fan for life. — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 16:32:58 +0000

Continued: Bill walsh knew it and Polian did to. The Jets need to Hire offensive minded personal in the office especially on the scout team. Have an offensive minded coach that understanding todays offence. The little tweeks that can make a play work. Look at the playoff teams the last 5 years. Great qb and wr! Offensive line so/so. Defense so/so. Score enough points and control the clock. Teams : The Manning Brothers Colts/NYG/ Green Bay/Falcons(This years soon to be champions) N.O./Denver/New England/CINN/Pitt and now put Seattle, Washingtion and S.F. all teams that will be playoff contenders in the coming years. What do they have in common Qb’s that make there players great! Communicate the offense to give there guys an edge.

By: By Gubster333 fan for life.

By Gubster333 fan for life. — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 16:15:11 +0000

After reading this articles, I sence more negativity, Why? Get real people! Here are the real facts! Polian was not the reason the colts tumbled down, there coach is Hand pick by dungy! Polian is the main reason they have talent then and Now. It was he who got Luck to the Colts! Do your research. Know who his son is? Look at players he has in the NFL R. Wayne, P. Garcon, great guy’s and WR’s, because he gets it. Brains and speed is what you need to win championships. Running back are a dime a dozen even having the best one can help you win a championship, A.Peterson! Look at what Polian was about, Knowing the change that Passing offense driven teams fair better than running. The most important pieces you need are a QB and WR.

By: Jack

Jack — Sun, 06 Jan 2013 00:22:21 +0000

Jets should soon have a new GM hopefully by sometime next week. I seen that Tom Gamble from the 49ers is on Woody Johnson top Choice for the GM, job. I think it a goos pick too

By: Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for Big Changes

Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for Big Changes — Sat, 05 Jan 2013 22:14:56 +0000

Frank, it wouldn’t be so bad if Sanchez stuck around next yr as a backup so that we wouldn’t lose all that $ but he’s done as a starter here and probably in the league. He’ll never take the field in NJ again without getting booed, the other Jets are tired of that, no one believes a word Rex says about QBs or O, and over 50% of the folks on this very site say we should draft a QB. If Woody’s ready to ignore all this, he’s probably ready to sell the team in a yr or 2 as well. carolina jet fan, many of us regulars on this site have lamented the Jets’ inability to spot talent in our own backyard and at positions at which we’ve been awful for decades, including Colston and Austin, so your post is very welcome. Play a round at Hilton Head for me!

By: carolina jet fan

carolina jet fan — Sat, 05 Jan 2013 16:17:56 +0000

Hey-i’m somewhat weary of bludgening tanny &rex and scapgoating OC’s but i have not heard enough about their scouting dept. In 2006 they worked @ Hofstra,four players from that Hofstra team have started in the NFL. Three have SB rings. All 4 players were FA or low draft picks My son was on that team- he told me the eagles, steelers, saints and others had scouts there all season-THE JETS LIVED THERE-what were they thinking?

By: Ronbo19

Ronbo19 — Sat, 05 Jan 2013 15:12:37 +0000

S.C.Joe & Byrdman, I was right there with you guys last year regarding Burfict. I just couldn’t see how the guy fell so far so fast? On the other hand, while he has done well this year there is no guarantee he is gonna be able to keep it up. I’m rooting for him as a Jet fan I’m used to rooting for the underdogs! IRA, I have as much respect for you as anyone here on Randy’s Radar but no way I want anything to do with the current front office leftovers like Cohen or Bradway! We need a different way of thinking here and thats not gonna happan with the same cast of characters calling the shots. I realize Gamble may not want the job but its time to move forward,away from the past.

By: Ronbo19

Ronbo19 — Sat, 05 Jan 2013 15:00:40 +0000

ALLAN “O” I agree with your Devitto assessment. He is a keeper as he is not expensive,provides solid play and is lockerroom guy tto. I would be sick if he went to the Pats! tom gamble would be my choice from the names I’m hearing he has the most experience and appears the most highly regarded. I think Bell will be back but landry has already said he will follow the money. As we have cap issues I cant see how he fits here.The kids(Allen & Bish) we drafted will have to be ready. Please, no more E.Smith! BYRDMAN, I loved your post about Bruce Smith. The work ethic of many oftodays players is just not the same.

By: Adam Douglas

Adam Douglas — Sat, 05 Jan 2013 03:11:21 +0000

Public sentiment will push Rex out the door and/or the inability to find a GM that will want to co-exist with him. Let’s face it the J-E-T-S will always be considered the bridesmaid and never the bride. Print it. Go Bills!!!!!

By: Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Still Hoping for Real Change

Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Still Hoping for Real Change — Sat, 05 Jan 2013 02:45:28 +0000

Allan, let me say with respect to my Romney/Obama post to Eric Allen, I don’t admire politicians, I admire artists, athletes, war heroes, and other champions in life. If I could put Romney’s command of business together with Obama’s command of history, that MIGHT be a president I could get excited about. No, what I get excited about is the possibility of a true champion like Curtis Martin buying the Jets and changing the culture by way of his championship skills, mindset, and work ethic. If HE was the owner, I think we might get Gamble. With Woody telling Gamble he has to keep Rex for a yr, which opens the door to Sanchez starting again, I think Gamble will just quote Dylan and laugh “I just said good luck.” That’s what I’D do for sure!

By: By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank

By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank — Sat, 05 Jan 2013 01:36:04 +0000

64 Tom. I am with you all the way on MS. Problem is he will be around next year, he is not tradable. We could never get a draft pick for him,and “NO” team will pay the money that is owed to him by the JETS. As for Revis being traded for a draft pick it better be a first rounder. But I personally do not see him being traded. I feel he will be back stronger and faster. We need offensive lineman and an inside outside running back. Now if the Vikes give us Peterson for Revis that would be a good thing (which will neve happen)….

By: Jack

Jack — Sat, 05 Jan 2013 00:07:30 +0000

Jets will needs to fixs that offensive lines starting with RT, & RG, B, Morre getting old and some good back up at LT,LG. Jets will need a TE, I think Keller will be gone. LB’s WR, I think Powell and McKnight will be the starter next season Greene should be gone. It time again to rebuild the offense.

By: Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Still Hoping for Real Change

Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Still Hoping for Real Change — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 21:26:21 +0000

Yeah, Rickie, they played a QB named McElroy who got sacked 11 times and withstood it better than Sanchez can deal with a single pressure, whereupon he throws over the middle into ten guys for a pick 6. The pick 6 he threw in the BUF game — into three Bills when Kerley wasn’t anywhere close to open — is indicative of how little he’s learned over 4 yr. That kind of mistake should absolutely not be in his game at this pt, so give it up on it’s not Sanchez’s fault. He’s not a starting NFL QB, much less an elite one, and never will be.

By: Allan O'Dane

Allan O'Dane — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 20:10:45 +0000

64Tom, What’s your take on this guy Tom Gamble? Heard he would be the perfect fit. There’s alot of rumors out there about trading Revis for future draft picks….I’m 50/50 on this one….

By: Rickie New York

Rickie New York — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 02:09:41 +0000

Okay – I admit Sanchez has regressed. As I said they should fire the QB coach whos been developing him (NOT) M Cavanaugh. However it is NOT just the QB, they put in G.M. and he got sacked ELEVEN TIMES, and a concussion. 3 pro-bowlers on the O-line and the other guys are so bad ( Ducasse too ) that not only have teams identified it as a weakness – they have expolited it…. REPEATEDLY. Jet-Blu – not every QB is Manning but I get what you mean, but the fact we have an entirely different wr corps each year is NOT helping this team. If they keep Braylon around – like they should of all along, and Holmes and Kerley are both healthy – then thats a good group. The Jets need a RT, 2 OLBs that can RUSH THE PASSER, LG & a top knotch RB.

By: Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Still Hoping for Real Change

Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Still Hoping for Real Change — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 00:56:23 +0000

You nailed it on all the big points again as usual, Allan!

By: scjoe

scjoe — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 00:09:42 +0000

Byrdman, yea, I am right there with you on Burfict! For the life of me I can not figure out why they didn’t invest a 5th, 6th, or 7th rounder, OR a compensatory pick on this guy. Just consider who they DID invest those picks on! I thought early in the process he would be a 1st rounder, but my son, who is a die hard Bengal fan never lets me forget the fact that the Bengals got this guy as an undrafted FA and he is not only starting, but tearing it up. As for Lattimore? It is so unfortunate what happened to him, I watched this kid tear it up from his soph. year at Byrnes high school. I would love to see the Jets pick him up with a mid to late rd pick, they will not regret it in 2014.

By: By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank

By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 23:53:35 +0000

(CONTINUED)
is the big question. AS for REX, I am not sure of any person coming in as “GM” is going to want him to be a “HC”. This is going to be interesting. I know if it’s someone like Gruden or Cowher, there is “NO WAY”. So REX you may be demoted to “DC” which would be a good thing. From watching over the years new GM’S coming to a team they want to bring some of there own staff with them. So this is going to be interesting to see how it pans out with a new “GM”.

By: Dr. Frank Falcone, Jr.

Dr. Frank Falcone, Jr. — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 23:48:05 +0000

been good for years following Belechick’s system. We need a system like that in place to keep us at the top for a while.

By: By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank

By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 23:47:15 +0000

Offense linemen are what we need, we also need an inside/outside RB like Giovani Smith from NC or Eddie Lacey from Alabama. The 2012 Season is over, it’s time for management to start building for the 2013 season and the way I feel about free agents vs. DRAFTEE’S is this. FREE AGENTS are looking for high salaries and most bomb out on another team. Keeps the salary cap down and above all brings in young players and depending on what round they are drafted in lower salaries. To accomplish this we need a “GM” and a “HC” willing to rebuild…I am in agreement with KAREN, get rid of Green, .Scott, Pace and Thomas, for draft picks as well as TT. As for MS maybe he will do better on another team, but with his performance who wants him is the

By: Dr. Frank Falcone, Jr.

Dr. Frank Falcone, Jr. — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 23:47:13 +0000

and a good pedigree. Maybe we should see if he is worthwhile and not draft any QB this year. We need OL badly! We need LB’s badly! We need another TE that can block and catch passes as well as a breakaway RB. So many holes to fill, we may need to trade draft picks and stockpile them for next year’s draft and chalk 2013 as an evaluation of existing talent year. Yes, I said it, clean house this year, evaluate talent and clean out the rest of the crap next year to get draft picks. Also, we need to trade some of our talent for picks. Dare I say we trade Cromartie or even Revis for a boatload of picks? How about trading Harris or Kyle Wilson? McKnight?, Holmes(we don’t need him anyway)? We need a plan and must follow it. Pats have

By: Byrdman

Byrdman — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 22:48:29 +0000

When you think about all the pampering, rose petals, hugs and guarantees Mark received from Rex with respect to his security as the starter Consider this…
Bruce Smith was asked once what motivated him each training camp (Yeah BRUCE freaking SMITH) “Every year a dozen young hotshots come in here trying to take my job, I don’t want to sit down long enough to give the coaches time to think, that rookie who went in for Smith looks pretty good” Think about THAT!
If this was how Bruce looked at it, one of the most amazing DE’s of all time, felt he was replaceable – Why should Mark Sanchez be given a sense of ENTITLEMENT to his job?

By: Allan O'Dane

Allan O'Dane — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 22:04:25 +0000

Either Bell or Landry must be re-signed. NYJ can’t lose both. Devito deserves to be back…but I can also see NE swooping in on him. BB likes players like Big Mike. This team lacks leadership letting a guy like Devito go won’t do the lockeroom any good. We need guys like him. It’s good to have at least 1 solid vet at each unit. Revis for secondary…Harris for LB corp. Devito for the DL and Mangold on the OL. Edwards is the only WR that I see is at least trying to mature.

By: Allan O'Dane

Allan O'Dane — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 20:55:12 +0000

Mr.Johnson, Good luck on finding a GM that will want Rex as his HC. and having to keep Sanchez. He will ride the bench like Matt Flynn and 2014 he will be gone. We can’t afford to cut him and if we trade him the NYJ will have to take on a majority of that contract ( way to go MR.T ). So the NYJ will have to do the samething seattle has done and keep a very expensive #2 on the bench. This team does not need another qb to play game manager. Good luck on trying to find good players to come over here while this team is looks like a laughing stock. I don’t want a players coach. I want a coach who wants to win and could care less about hurting your feelings. You have a job to do. Do it…if you can’t, someone else will…it’s plain and simple.

By: Allan O'Dane

Allan O'Dane — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 20:43:24 +0000

1964Frank, I am right there with you. I like all of those players. Hopefully they will draft players that we NEED instead of the sexy pick. Byrdman you are correct Vontaze was undrafted…Cincy gave him a $1000.00 sign on bonus ( Not kidding ). All he wanted was a chance. So lewis picked him as his on personal project with little risk had him drop 15-25 lbs. Gave this young something to focus on. Now he is on a VERY good LB corp in Cincy. Lattimore maybe a huge risk because of his leg injury…but man-o-man can this kid run! Just watch his highlights on youtube…it may change your mind…Jets would be foolish not to pick him up if he falls that late on draft day.