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Idzik, Ryan Speak on Revis, QBs, Competition

Posted by Randy Lange on February 21, 2013 – 5:23 pm

Updated 6:19 p.m. ET

In theory the NFL Combine is a place to talk with, talk about, time, measure and analyze the draft-eligible college players heading into the draft two months down the road.

In reality, John Idzik and Rex Ryan held an impromptu Darrelle Revis news conference when they spoke with reporters at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis this afternoon.

The new general manager and the fifth-year head coach had the same bumper sticker for the media, fans and the NFL: WE ♥ REVIS ISLAND.

“Darrelle Revis is obviously a great football player, a great New York Jet and a tremendous asset to our team,” said Idzik at the podium shortly after 4 p.m. ET. “I don’t know that anything has really changed. We’ve always wanted Darrelle as part of our team. That has not changed.”

Idzik declined several times to respond to questions about Revis rumors, contract matters or trade terms. But, he stressed, “In respect to Darrelle, our focus is to aid him any way we can in his rehabilitation so he can return to the player we all know he is.”

Ryan followed Idzik to the microphone — each talked for about 16 minutes — and recounted a phone conversation he had with Revis, who’s rehabbing the knee injury that ended his season in Game 3 at Miami, about trade rumors that surfaced the day before Idzik held his introductory news conference at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center.

“I told him it’s not accurate,” Ryan said. “If he’s going to be involved in a trade, I think he and his agents would know about it, as would the GM and myself. There’s no validity to it. I don’t know where that gets drummed up. … I provided him the answer that I know to be true, which is that was not accurate.”

It was certainly likely that the game of Twit-for-Tat between Revis and Seahawks CB Richard Sherman the past day or so would be posed in the form of a question to Ryan. Rex declined to get into the middle of that Twitter war while still strongly supporting his former All-Pro corner.

“I will say this: Obviously the guy [Sherman]‘s a heck of a football player. I don’t know him well enough to compare him to Darrelle Revis,” Ryan said. “But if you’re putting yourself in that company, that’s the company you want to be in, that’s for sure.”

The two-fer news conferences were about more than Revis. Both Jets officials were asked about their quarterbacks, specifically Mark Sanchez and Tim Tebow.

Idzik had a new turn of phrase to describe the way the teamwide 2013 depth chart will shake out.

“I don’t think you isolate it to any one or a few positions. We’re going to have a general mantra here with the New York Jets and it’s going to be ‘Competition Through and Through,’ ” he said. “That’s going to be true this year as we enter free agency, it’s going to be true as we go into the draft, it’s going to be true as we come out of the draft, it’s going to be true as we go into training camp and into the regular season. And if we have success and we win a championship, it’ll be true after we win a championship.

“I think everyone, Mark included, recognizes that he, our offense — shoot, our team as a whole — has to perform better than we did in 2012. And we’re going to do that. We’re going to do everything to increase the competition so that he plays better. We’ve got a new offensive coordinator, we have a new quarterback coach, we have staff changes that I think will be healthy for Mark and so that we can again get the juices flowing and turn the page into 2013, not look back to 2012, start anew and get rolling.”

“We’re bringing in competition at every position, not just the quarterback position,” Ryan said. “That’s what we want to do here. To say Mark Sanchez, this quarterback, that quarterback — clearly there’s going to be competition at that position.”

Tebow’s situation arose only late during Ryan’s time at the mike.

“Tim’s under contract to be a New York Jet,” the head coach said, “and we’ll see how things go in the offseason.”

We’re expediting the processing of transcripts of both Idzik’s and Ryan’s remarks today and they’ll be up on newyorkjets.com shortly.

Draft Order Update

The NFL has released its tentative round-by-round order for the 2013 draft. The order is tentative because it doesn’t include compensatory picks, which will be awarded at the bottom of Rounds 3-7 and announced next month. So the Jets’ first three picks are fixed and the positions of Rounds 4-7 will change depend on how many compensatories are inserted at the end of each prior round. Here are the Jets’ picks at the moment:

Round 1 — 9th in the round, 9th overall

Round 2 — 8th in the round, 39th overall

Round 3 — 10th in the round, 72nd overall

Round 4 — 9th in the round (103rd-plus overall)

Round 5 — 8th in the round (134th-plus overall)

Round 6 — 10th in the round (168th-plus overall)

Round 7 — 9th in the round (199th-plus overall)

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204 Responses to “Idzik, Ryan Speak on Revis, QBs, Competition”

  1. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Feb 21, 2013 | Reply

    It was good to hear John Idzik talk about Revis and giving Revis all the help they can. I have been against a Revis trade since the rumors first started. But if they did trade Revis, then trade smart and get another 1st rounder and several 2nd rounders. As for Rex Ryan and his news interview, same ole double talking REX. We are in an excellent position to get some good draft picks. I just hope the Jet’s front office realizes it….

  2. By IRA on Feb 21, 2013 | Reply

    Of course everybody loves Revis and who would not want him on your team that is all true. But the big problem is the money and that a changes things. The right thing is to move him for the best value they can get. Sad to say but that is the correct business move. I will be shocked if he is on this team.

  3. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for the Draft on Feb 21, 2013 | Reply

    Contrary to the way ESPN tried to spin this story to make Idzik look weak, it sounds to me like he’s studied the Leon-style post-injury holdout — and is in no mood for it: “I think as we get into the offseason program, it is all voluntary, but you would hope that most of your players want to be there and be in the building and get the juices flowing with our staff and everybody that we have. We have a fine medical staff. We have a great training staff. We have tremendous facilities so we feel that we have a lot to offer Darrelle and all of our players. We would hope that they would be there.”

  4. By Byrdman on Feb 21, 2013 | Reply

    When Drew Brees injured his shoulder the Chargers replaced him with Rivers – I can remember thinking, I bet this will come back to haunt SD. Drew won a SB in NO while developing into a top 5 QB, San Diego…seems headed in the opposite direction with Rivers. Barry Sanders was running his way into the hall of Fame but got tired of playing for a losing team and hung up the cleats. Detroit has never really recovered from that! Darrelle Revis is following a similar career trajectory, everybody but Richard Sherman agrees Revis is the best cover corner in the NFL. I’m worried that the Jets will botch this whole situation, Revis will end up winning a SB somewhere else. We’ll draft some BUMS, further cementing our rep as a Laughingstock franchise

  5. By uncle joe on Feb 22, 2013 | Reply

    OK, I would tell all teams drafting ahead of us that if that Ziggy Ansahwhatever guy is there when they pick they can have Revis and our 1 for their 1 and 2. I think the Eagles would jump all over that, they would get a corner which they need and still get an O-Linemen. But this Ziggy guy is gonna be something special and him at LB next to Couples would be SICK!!!!

  6. By Tom Spicer on Feb 22, 2013 | Reply

    The Jets can save just over $1 million in cap space by releasing Tim Tebow before the start of the new league year.The cap-strapped Jets can use every penny. Tebow’s base salary is $2,586,875, a sum the club obviously won’t pay. After the Jets discover Tebow has zero trade value at the Combine, look for his release around the first week of March.

  7. By Tom Spicer on Feb 22, 2013 | Reply

    Coach Rex Ryan said DE Quinton Coples is “just scratching the surface,” and he plans to use Coples more on the edge in 2013. Ryan has been heaping praise on Coples this offseason, first by saying that the 2012 first-rounder was “poised for a monster season” in 2013. Coples led the team with 5.5 sacks as a rookie, and the Jets could be looking for another pass rusher to pair with him in this year’s draft after releasing Calvin Pace.

  8. By Tom Spicer on Feb 22, 2013 | Reply

    ESPN New York’s Rich Cimini believes the Jets were “posturing” Thursday at the Combine by telling everyone they don’t plan to trade Darrelle Revis.
    The Jets can’t tell other teams they’re trading Revis because that would cost them leverage in forthcoming trade discussions. It’s more telling that not once did GM John Idzik or coach Rex Ryan rule out a trade. Cimini called it “talking in circles.” There’s still a good chance Revis is dealt at some point this year.

  9. By Tom Spicer on Feb 22, 2013 | Reply

    From Rotoworld “Coach Rex Ryan expects Stephen Hill to improve by “leaps and bounds” in 2013.”His ceiling is really high,” Ryan said. “Many receivers coming into this league as rookies, a lot of inconsistency. Some weeks he was outstanding, other weeks not so much, but I expect him to improve by leaps and bounds going into year two.” Hill was a non-factor after his five-catch, 89-yard, two-score Week 1. He finished the season with just 21 grabs for 252 yards and three touchdowns. This tells me they are not re signing Braylon which I dont want to hear this guy has proven nothing & he has problems catching the ball. This is also coming from a guy who like him!

  10. By Tom Spicer on Feb 22, 2013 | Reply

    As per Rotoworld “The Jets will meet with restricted free agent RT Austin Howard’s agent on Friday.Howard is the team’s top restricted free agent, and the Jets could give him a first-round tender. The 6-foot-7, 333-pounder started all 16 games in 2012 after starting just one game in his previous two seasons. He struggled as a pass protector, but Howard was a top-ten run blocker, according to Pro Football Focus.”

  11. By walt on Feb 22, 2013 | Reply

    I think that the Jets would have to be insane not to trade Revis.Make him play on his old contract no way.He has made it clear that he expects his 18 million a year this year.If he does play under his old contract this year he will be a major distraction constantly complaining.Of all the help we need at different positions cornerback is the least of the Jets problems.This situation is a no brainer.If the Jets do not trade him for a player or players or draft picks they will have earned the circus tag nickname without a doubt.

  12. By Karan on Feb 22, 2013 | Reply

    Don’t buy anything Cimini says. The guy is always downtalking the Jets. ESPN seriously needs a new beat writer for the Jets.

  13. By Karan on Feb 22, 2013 | Reply

    I hope they re-sign Austin Howard. With time, he will get better. He can become a solid player.

  14. By Karan on Feb 22, 2013 | Reply

    Man, I hope they re-sign Edwards. He’s an athelic WR. I don’t what else he has to do to prove for the Jets he belongs on this team. Edwards is a Jet, period. Don’t make a mistake and not re-sign him again. If Holmes is on this roster and Edwards is not starting next season, it would just be ridicolous. At the same time, Jets also need to pursue other free agent WRs. Still, Edwards has become one of my favorite Jets, he belongs here.

  15. By Karan on Feb 22, 2013 | Reply

    Also, re-sign one of either Slauson and Moore. I would take Slauson over Moore at the time simply because of age and money. Slauson would be less costly is 27 at the time. Moore is an AWESOME RG but don’t know if they will be able to afford him. Plus, its time to get younger at the RG position, so draft a guard. Truly will miss a true humble and hard working veteran in Moore if he does not return. Always been a great Jet. Slauson has been a solid player now for 3 years in the starting lineup, so definitly would like the Jets to re-sign him along with Howard.

  16. By Karan on Feb 22, 2013 | Reply

    And please whatever you do, please get Shonn Greene and Tim Tebow off this team. And while we’re at it, Vlad Ducasse as well.

  17. By GaryC on Feb 22, 2013 | Reply

    Uncle Joe,Ansah will be something special,playing at BYU,why didn’t a more high profile college snap him up,you can laud all over Ansah but you know if the jets draft him,people will label him BUST.

  18. By kleckofan on Feb 22, 2013 | Reply

    JFT64- Agree, Idzik looks like he is THE MAN, not Rex. Clearly the presser was all smoke and mirrors, but I-man is not heaping praise on Rex’s guys just to kowtow, he’s making Revis’ value as high as it can get for a player returning from injury. I get the feeling I-man is calling the shots.
    Byrd- the problem w your Brees comparison to Revis is that you don’t win SB’s by acquiring CB’s; you can help your cause, but a CB is not the reason a team wins a SB. As Ralph Kiner is fond of telling, after leading the league in HR’s w the Pirates he asked for a raise (again); the GM, one Branch Rickey, told Kiner “we finished last with you, we can finish last without you!” Kiner was later traded to the Cubs.
    Do you hear that, Revis?

  19. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for the Draft on Feb 22, 2013 | Reply

    Byrdman, when did you become a DC PR guy? So you’re saying because Revis might be able to “win” a SB all by himself on, say, GB or SF we should just do nothing? Paralysis is not analysis, my friend. And Revis, unlike the other two guys you mention, isn’t even a O player — he can’t “win” a SB almost singlehandedly the way a QB or even, er, a WR named Holmes kinda did. The last O player to try to hold up the Jets was Leon when he turned down $10 mil for 2 yrs. I said he was coming off an injury and was potentially just a KR, which turned out to be an exactly right prediction. Let’s not freak out about what Revis will do elsewhere. Abraham hasn’t won anything where he’s been for years either.

  20. By Byrdman on Feb 22, 2013 | Reply

    Spicer – Some of the blogs I read point out something about the Jet O-line that will have to be corrected. The right side of the line features great run blocking with Mangold, Moore and Howard but,,, DBrick is sort of a patty-cake run blocker and Slauson is just OK. Opponents that do any kind of film study note that this team runs primarily to the Right and up the middle. Most teams figured out that Greene doesn’t have the speed to break outside the tackles – that all adds up to a very predictable and one dimensional running game. I don’t know if there’s any easy way to fix that, Hope Marty has a few ideas.

  21. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for the Draft on Feb 22, 2013 | Reply

    “One thing I will say is this,” Ryan said, “and we all feel this, I know I feel this, and I’m sure that many people in our org feel that same way. We’re stepping up to plate with a bat in our hand and we’re not going to let any strikes go by without swinging. We are going to take our cuts. We may take a cut at a ball in the ground as well, but we are definitely going to take our cuts. When we talk about being aggressive, I don’t know if we really know what that looks like. To me, I have that vision. Some may say, “Well, you’re aggressive on D.” I don’t think we’re close to being as aggressive as we’re going to be this year in all 3 phases of the game, and I’m looking forward to it. How many wins? Nobody can tell you that.” (see next post).

  22. By Stevesc on Feb 22, 2013 | Reply

    Spicer, I think if Howard could drop 10-15 lbs, it would make him a little quicker on his feet, helping his pass protection and improving his run blocking.

  23. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for the Draft on Feb 22, 2013 | Reply

    CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT THAT BLAST OF NONSENSE FROM REX IS SUPPOSED TO MEAN? Much less what good it does anybody remotely connected to this team? Jeez, this guy gets PAID to say this kinda stuff? Find me ONE other NFL HC — ONE! — who rambles on like this, talkin’ loud and sayin’ nuthin’! Back to what we were saying, Allan, about how Rex’s handle on this job is so weirdly personal and ego-driven, like if you plucked a high school kid off a football team somewhere and told him to try to coach the Jets. Except even that kid would understand that you win games these days with a QB and WRs who can put points on the board…

  24. By ronbo on Feb 22, 2013 | Reply

    SPICER,what i take from your comments on Rex is basically, more blah-blah-blah from Rex.Apparently, nothing is changed! He’s annointing a lazy guy who led one of the worst pass rushing teams in the league because he had 5.5 sacks? Please, only when Rex is eliminated from the picture will the term “aim higher” have any meaning here in Jetville. UNCLE JOE, not sure why you are so hyped up conserning Ezekiel Ansah? He is almost 25 years old, only one full season as a full time starter in a weak conference? Dude, he may turn out to be a beast, but can we afford to take that gamble with our first rd. pick? I hope not!

  25. By SQUIRREL on Feb 22, 2013 | Reply

    if the JEts do not resiign Braylon they are pathetic. we can get him for cheap and he was the best receiver we had last year. Sanchez actually looked semi decent throwing him the ball. are we going to make the same mistake twice? should have kept him and dumped the holmes first tiem around.

  26. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Feb 22, 2013 | Reply

    Rumors are flyingt again Now its Howard possibly coming to the JETS for a #1 pick. If the Jets give up the #9 spot in the first round for Howard I will be come a 100% Buffalo Fan. As bad as we need first rounders and second rounders, NO WAY is the Jets giving a first rounder for Howard, what the heck, lets start another rumor maybe Adrian Peterson will come to the Jets for a first round pick to the Vikings. All this talk and no one has the slightest idea what goes through the minds of the Jets front office and coaching staff. Cimini states Jets coaching is “talking in circles.” I disagree. I feel they are sincere about having Revis’s best interest at heart…

  27. By IRA on Feb 22, 2013 | Reply

    Howard was a nice find and they will make sure they keep him. Don’t take what any of these coaches or GM’s say its all lip services and I can’t blame them. Why show your hand in a high stakes poker game.
    And for all those who think the Jets should keep Revis and delay this year just keep in mind that the Jets would have no chance of signing him after the season and once he would hit free agency he will land in Foxboro in a day and haunt the Jets for the next 5 years. Trade him ASAP to SF, Atl or Den.

  28. By scjoe on Feb 22, 2013 | Reply

    Spicer, I would have been absolutely shocked had Rex Ryan said anything other then he “expects” Stephen Hill to improve by leaps and bounds. The sad fact is if he learns how to catch the ball that would be improving by leaps and bounds. He was pretty much what I expected him to be coming out. Nowhere near ready! This will be a critical year for him.

  29. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for the Draft on Feb 22, 2013 | Reply

    Nothing has changed and nothing will, as Arte said to me yesterday, until March 12. And if anybody wants to pick on Cimini, they should do it when he doesn’t know how to analyze what’s going on down on the field, not when he criticizes what’s going on down on the field. No ESPN sportswriter has any obligation to write favorably about the Jets. Some of you shoulda been around when Jerry Magee was covering the Chargers for Pro Football Weekly. And speaking of the old days, today I was thinking that Rex’s dream of a QB today, here in 2013, is probably still somebody like Sonny Sixkiller. I can hear him now, “He’s really a great athlete, you gotta see the way he just runs over guys…” (Yeah, and couldn’t throw.)

  30. By longbranch on Feb 23, 2013 | Reply

    I would like to have Revis, but, I would trade him for Alex Smith and a #1 draft pick.

  31. By GaryC on Feb 23, 2013 | Reply

    why is it that every jet who gets cut fans believe they will end up in New England,don’t they have salary cap issues,or in some cases why would New England want the jets scraps,and if you continue to worry about New England you will never beat them.they don’t think about the rest of the AFC Least.

  32. By ronbo on Feb 23, 2013 | Reply

    Jet Fan Frank, Howard who? I have no idea who “Howard ” is that you spoke of in your above post? If you mean Austin Howrd last years R.T he is a free agent. We can re sign him if we choose to but we do not have to give up any draft picks. IRA, I’m still waiting to hear why you think we should re-sign Keller? Other than the fact he is under-sized at 6-1 1/0 cant block, has inconsistent hands,runs lousey routes has had injury issues as of late and is now looking to break the bank- I dont get it?

  33. By GaryC on Feb 23, 2013 | Reply

    JetFanTom,Bill Polian said last night that the Salary cap is there to hurt the successful teams,that is the only reason I said the jets would not be DYNASTIC,not because in time they might find a way to draft or with some kind of success players would find New Jersey on the map.That being said do you think possibly some teams put a little extra dough in the pockets of players without the leagues knowledge,We know the NFL is all about honesty,right.You do wonder how some teams are always under the cap.

  34. By Tom Spicer on Feb 23, 2013 | Reply

    1964 Frank, No the Jets are not giving up a 1st round pick for Austin Howard. The news is Austin Howard is a restricted free agent & they are saying the Jets are thinking that they are going to put a 1st round tender on him. This means if another team signs Auston Howard away from the Jets they have to give the Jets a 1st round pick.

  35. By Tom Spicer on Feb 23, 2013 | Reply

    I also think not resigning Braylon this off season will be a mistake for a number of reasons. 1 he showed us last year he can still play 2 I am not sure of his exact age but I know worst case he is 29 so still young 3 he can be had for a 1 year veteran minimum deal 4 he actually wants to be a Jet 5 With Holmes coming back & Kerley developing if you add Braylon between the 3 of them you have a very good WR core & we can focus on our other problems. Let Hill be the number 4 for a year until he proves himself. Then next year when Holmes & Braylon are probably gone he can start with Kerley.

  36. By Tom Spicer on Feb 23, 2013 | Reply

    I have been reading Jarvis Jones (Georgia) is not working out at the combine but he will at his pro day. They are saying he is not a workout guy & his times will test poorly which may cause him to fall. I dont care what he runs or lifts IF he is there at 9 THE JETS NEED TO TAKE THIS GUY! He is a PLAYER I watched this guy dominate the SEC the last 2 years.

  37. By Uncle Joe on Feb 23, 2013 | Reply

    Levine Toilolo, just remember that name.

  38. By Chicago Bob on Feb 23, 2013 | Reply

    kleckofan: By no means am I saying the Jets should pay Revis – I firmly believe if you can get a 1st and more, you pull the trigger however your comment about not acquiring a CB to win a Super Bowl does have a flaw. In 1994 the 49ers signed Deion Sanders specifically to help them get over the top and win a Super Bowl – which they did. The following year was the Deion Sanders “sweepstakes” when he was once again a free agent and the Cowboys secured his services by signing him….and they won the Super Bowl that year. Once again, in no way am I saying keep him however a player in Revis’ class would definitely be on the radar of some teams just for the purpose of winning a Super Bowl.

  39. By obewan on Feb 23, 2013 | Reply

    I”m not totally in, until Rex is totally out. What a joke that he kept his job and now we have an inferior staff from top to bottom in comparison to what we would have had if Rex was fired. In my heart I like to see Revis stay, but my mind tells me we need players and with right move we could do well to trade him. BIG QUESTION can Jets ever do the right move.

  40. By Byrdman on Feb 23, 2013 | Reply

    Klecko, 64Tom – I think the “Revis will end up winning a SB somewhere else” line was misunderstood. How’s this – “with our luck Revis will wind up on a SB winning team and the Jets will continue their 40 year run of alternating between mediocre and pathetic laughingstock” didn’t fit in the comment box :D
    The point I was trying to make with the SD and Detroit blunders was simply that their incompetence directly precipitated the loss of 2 great players. No,of course I don’t think you win Lombardi’s with ONE CB (but) I’ll bet John Fox would have sold his soul to have Revis covering Ravens wide-outs in that playoff game… Don’t you think?

  41. By Byrdman on Feb 23, 2013 | Reply

    The more I think about it… I would be on-board with a Revis trade if it was almost any other organization but this one working out the deal. NY media is working 24/7 on rumors and inflammatory headlines to sabotage the whole thing. Take this for what it’s worth, some of the beat writers pick a scab that’s healing, they pick at it over and over until you’ve got a full blown infection! Judging by the posts here, some envision a Hershall Walker blockbuster trade.Those NEVER happen anymore! On the other extreme are the guys that want to surgically remove Revis like he’s a malignant tumor. I read one this week – Revis (and) AND another Jet for somebody named Alex Smith ? I was laughing until it occurred to me that the poster was dead serious

  42. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for the Draft on Feb 23, 2013 | Reply

    Cimini says that we should be patient, let Revis rehab, and trade him only sometime before the October deadline. That’s assuming Revis even shows up in NJ to rehab, of course, rather than pouting at his own facility like Leon did. And now this story on the site today about Manuel and Glennon stresses their accuracy and their drop-back QB potential. I don’t know where I’m gonna get all this patience to wait to see the end of Revis and Sanchez as Jets, not to mention the end of Rex as our joke of a head coach…

  43. By IRA on Feb 23, 2013 | Reply

    I am telling you guys they need to draft a OG in the first rd. All the pass rushers come with baggage either injuries, Jordan needs surgery and Jones has a spinal problem. Sorry I am not taking a chance on any of them take the OG and plug him in there for 5 to 10 years

  44. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for the Draft on Feb 23, 2013 | Reply

    “Oregon pass rusher Dion Jordan, a player linked to the Jets with the ninth overall pick, will have surgery next week in Los Angeles to repair an injured labrum. The recovery is expected to take three to four months, meaning late June at the latest. He’ll be back for training camp, but he’ll be behind in his conditioning.” Mr T, spurred on by Rex, woulda picked him high anyway, just like picking Ellis despite the possibility of deportation. Let’s see if Idzik is smart enough not to.

  45. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for Them Changes on Feb 24, 2013 | Reply

    I agree totally with this comment, cleaned up for Randy, from Walker’s ESPN piece on Rex’s likely impending failure: “Rex is only there because Woody doesn’t want to sign another HC and pay Rex when the 2013 Jets are going to be terrible. Mr T made all the wrong decisions and the talent is completely non-existent. Rex might get fired at mid-season and will definitely get fired at the end of the yr when the Jets finish 3-13 and in 1st place for the 1st pick in the 2014 draft. This is not earth-shattering. If the Jets are smart, which Idzik seems to be, they need to trade perennial malcontent Revis and get some picks. The Jets are going to be bad for the next 2-3 years and having a shutdown corner on a bad team makes absolutely no sense.”

  46. By IRA on Feb 24, 2013 | Reply

    Heard some reports from the combine that the contract Revis is looking for most teams if not all will not touch until he shows he can play and even after he does and shows he is 100% they are not going to pay a CB 100 mill besides the fact he wants to be paid as the top D player in the NFL. This is starting to look as this is going to be a long drawn out thing and it probably won’t get cleared up until Aug, before the trade deadline in Oct or even until after the 013 season.

  47. By scjoe on Feb 24, 2013 | Reply

    64Frank, which “Howard” are you referring to?

  48. By Karan on Feb 24, 2013 | Reply

    Great news, Shonn Greene drawing interest from Broncos and Falcons.

  49. By Karan on Feb 24, 2013 | Reply

    Alex Smith is not worth a trade for Revis.

  50. By Karan on Feb 24, 2013 | Reply

    And neither would be Sanchez for those ready to defend Smith.

  51. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for Them Changes on Feb 24, 2013 | Reply

    I’d like to see Revis gone for picks tomorrow too, Ira, but “long drawn out thing” — with the word “failure” substituted for “thing” — is what the 2013 Jet season is going to look like, if you’re hoping for an impressive W-L record. If you’re hoping for unloading a lot of bad players, drafting promising new ones, and laying the groundwork for a really good team in a couple of yrs post-Rex and post-Sanchez, it won’t be so painful. Myself, I prefer a “long drawn out” process of building a winner to Rex’s increasingly incoherent nonsense about how no one’s gonna wanna play us, we’re gonna take our cuts, and other meaningless babbling. I get your reframing on Revis, Byrdman, and yeah, I still say deal him.

  52. By IRA on Feb 24, 2013 | Reply

    Ronbo, They should resing sign Keller for the right price. Yes this draft seems to have about 4 or so TE’s that can come in and make an impact right away. So if Keller’s asking price is too much i am ok with that. But you can’t get on him because he had a bad year last year because of injuries. His numbers his first 4 years are very good and he should be at least a top 8 TE. No matter who the QB is Keller is perfect for MM’s West Coast system.
    Revis if not traded before camp or the draft has to show up. If he misses any time then his contract kicks in and he is under contract until 016 for basically nothing. That was the wash for giving up the right to tag him.
    Greene will be very productive for either Denver or Atlanta.

  53. By GaryC on Feb 24, 2013 | Reply

    A few thoughts on the combine,nice to know the NFL thought more of Teo’s interview then what was happening on the field,I guess they want their own reality show starring Teo,if this guy didn’t go to Notre Dame it probably wouldn’t have been brought up.I can also see in a few years where the NFL starts charging people to attend the combine if they want to watch it.Also,it is really interesting how heights and weights change when measured at the combine,Stills at Oklahoma was always listed in the 6’2 range and the Nfl measures him at 6’0.Ertz is listed in the preseason magazines at 255 and he comes in at 249.people will say they lose the weight for better times,but I see this stuff every year.

  54. By IRA on Feb 24, 2013 | Reply

    I do agree they should keep Edwards he would be cheap and good competition for Hill or any other Wr’s they bring in. Even if they cut him late August he is worth bringing back. There will be plenty of other WR’s to sign though if they don’t. They will have to sign an OLB in free agency they can’t just hope they find one in the draft. Would love to see them sign Connor Barwin I just don’t think they have much room to spend much. I wouldn’t be surprised if Tripucka shows he can handle the LS job they keep him and cut Purdum just for the savings This year they have to get the cap under control so they can move forward.
    GO JETS!!!!

  55. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Feb 24, 2013 | Reply

    Correction, I should have used his whole name Thomas Howard of Cinci. who is a LB. I hope it is a rumor, I just dont think he will fit in. Karen, I agree that is good news about Greene…

  56. By scjoe on Feb 24, 2013 | Reply

    Ira, iIthink the Revis situation is a bad one for the NY Jets. I don’t thnk any team out there will meet his salary demands AND the Jets compensation, not with the injury. That is the NY Jets same ol luck! Best case, he plays out the season and resigns, otherwise, all they come out of this with is a 3rd round comp pick.

  57. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for Them Changes on Feb 24, 2013 | Reply

    More good news from Cimini: “The New York Jets, who need additional salary cap space to make more roster moves, will try to restructure wide receiver Santonio Holmes’ contract, according to sources close to the team.”

  58. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for Them Changes on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    Here’s one thing Mr T did right: “As of Sunday night, there was no word on whether the Jets want Holmes to take a pay cut or simply restructure the contract. SH has a lot of leverage here because he has a $7.5 million guarantee and there would be an $11 million cap hit if they cut him. Ah, but take a closer look; it’s not as much leverage as you might think. There’s off-set language in the contract, meaning Holmes — if released — can’t earn more than $7.5 million in 2013. In other words, he can’t double dip. He’s maxed out at $7.5 million, so it might behoove him to take a haircut on that $11 million, knowing he’d make the most money by remaining with the Jets.”

  59. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for Them Changes on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    Ira, I know that about Revis’ contract, you know that, and of course Idzik knows that, so…is he suspecting that Revis, true to form, will find some way to get around that and hold out without consequences again? scjoe, you must’ve read the scenario, advanced by Cimini and some others, that the Jets’ best option is to start the season with Revis, show the league he’s healthy, then trade him before the deadline. While that might be tough on us fans, there is one undeniable plus to that approach: If we’re 2-6 in late October when the trade deadline rolls around, everyone will agree that trading Revis makes more sense for a rebuilding team than ever. Boy, everybody sure is ready to dump Greene! Arte even called me just to quote that article.

  60. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    I know most in here want to trade Revis. I have seen posts about his attitude, his injury, no team will want him because of his injury. His salary, etc, etc. Without a doubt he is still one of the best CB in football. Sometimes an injury changes your attitude and makes you realize you are vulnaerable and can be out of football at the blink of an eye. Nobody will give Revis the benefit of the doubt as to why he wanted to know if being traded was going to happen and if the Jets have given up on him. I know I would want to know. It would also make me want to rehabilitate my leg and show that I was the same player as I was prior to the injury. Noone wants to be unsure of his/her future with any job. It’s for sure he is not going to ask

  61. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    for more money this year. As for next year, he has to get through this year before worring about next year. I feel the comment John Idzik made about Revis was great and may have given Revis reassurance the Jets are there for him. As for Rex’s comments about Revis, not sure of what to think like most of us in here. We need the following without a doubt; OG, QB, OLB, OT, RB, TE. As for Smith, he is an incomplete TE, let him go.

  62. By uncle joe on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    Ira, I wanted a Guard in the 1st too, but this Warmack guy scares me. I watched some of his youtube stuff and he seems like he is always falling on the floor. Just a big body but nothing athletic. And I know it doesn’t mean much, but he looked like an awful slob at the combine.

  63. By uncle joe on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    Noticed Tanny mocked us with Cordarelle Patterson, not bad but I think Buffalo is gonna take him plus I don’t think he would help us win a game as much as this Ziggy Ansah guy would. Trade Revis for Percy Harvin and draft Ziggy.

  64. By GaryC on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    what is the combine anyway,looks like a jock frat party,where all the buds hang out together and everyone else is excluded,a little like the golfing fraternity.

  65. By GaryC on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    this is what the jets need to do in the Revis situation,set up a workout a week before the draft where teams know how fast his rehab is,just like what they are going to do with the draft eligibles,and let the teams see the progress and then you have teams bidding on him.

  66. By scjoe on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    Ron, I stated a couple of weeks ago that EJ Manuel’s stock would rise after the combine and his pro day. Well, it didn’t exactly sky rocket after his combine workouts but I think it did improve. What amuses me is how all this years class of QBs are being sized up for the read option. I can only hope that the FOs and ownership is not putting as much stock into that as the media is. Last time I looked there were still a few QBs doing pretty well out there with out the read option in there repertoire. My feeling? If the read option is your strong point, you better start working on the other intangibles if you want to hold your job long term.

  67. By Byrdman on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    64Tom – Rank the following players in the descending order
    For example here’s my list, post any recent cuts, of the players I think Jets would be better off WITHOUT:
    #1 Sanchez – No Brain-er, send him to Gitmo for all I care!
    #2 Holmes – A Terrell Owens type circus/cancer MINUS all the TD’s
    #3 Greene – Yeah he’s a Bell Cow alright “Udderly incredible moves”
    #4 Tebow – Heard Steve Young claim his throwing flaw can be fixed – wonder if Steve would be available to work with the guy ?
    #5 Keller – 25th rated TE wants top 5 money – Hasta La vista Baby !
    #6 Cromartie – even in a “pro-bowl” year, got torched too often to be considered a Shut Down corner.
    #7 Insert Jets 53 man roster here minus Mangold, Revis, Dbrick

  68. By GaryC on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    Let’s see in this liberal society of today if anyone tries to bring up this rapper guy planting a kiss on Erin Andrews at the Daytona,they railed on Broadway Joe,at least he wasn’t in his right mind,unlike this rapper who had full faculties.

  69. By GaryC on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    Looking at Teo’s combine,this guy might be lucky to be drafted in the first round,There will be no Navy’s,Wake Forest’s and BYU’s on your schedule in the NFL.

  70. By GaryC on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    Ronbo,looking at the combine,not as sold on Patterson,did not look great catching the ball on the gauntlet drill,looked to be double clutching,believe it or not Mingo who I wasn’t that thrilled about showed a lot of athletism,especially going back and catching the football,he would be great as a weakside backer in a four three,but I guess the jets will stay in three four,if he puts ten pounds on this dimensions will be the same as Aldon Smith.As for Warmack,he would scare me as a pulling guard with the 5.5 forty he ran but at 6’2 he can get under the tackles as a power run blocker.

  71. By Byrdman on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    Holmes Lisfranc injury is potentially more damaging than I originally thought.
    Consider this quote ” But for a RB like Cedric Benson and a WR like Santonio Holmes, speed and elusiveness and change-of-direction are key, so it’s much harder to predict how they will come back or if they even will be able to come all the way back.”
    Holmes isn’t a top end burner, it was his quickness and change of direction that made up for his size, prior to this injury/surgery.
    Something for “Tone” fans here to take into account before you pencil him in as your #1 wideout in 2013 and beyond.

  72. By scjoe on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    64, I don’t think that the Revis issue is going to turn into gold for the NY Jets as many believe it will. There are extenuating circumstances, like the injury for one, and Revis stubbornness to become the highest paid defensive player for another. Now, “if” he were not coming off an injury, or “if” he had 2 years remaining on his salary, then I would say ( in the words of still another disgraced politician) it could be golden. But as of right now, it is what it is. If they can get a #1, which I am beginning to doubt more and more, jump on it. If not? The trade speculation with SF involving Smith may be the next best option. You will at least address a need. Worse case? He has a standout year here, and you get a #3 comp pick in 2014.

  73. By scjoe on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    GaryC, do you believe Revis will be full speed in any workout one week before the draft? I don’t. That may hurt more then help. I don’t know how this issue will be resolved, but one thing is certain, it is not a sellers market re: Darrelle Revis. I don’t think they get face value if they trade him now. Know what will happen then? People (a lot of them) will begin questioning the new GM because they don’t know any better.

  74. By GaryC on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    Idzik is looking like a winner to these eyes,This guy really looks like someone who will leave no stone unturned to better this team,have the jets finally hit a home run.

  75. By kleckofan on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    Chicago Bob- no offense taken, and I don’t think what you said is actually contrary to what I was trying to say. The teams you mention winning a SB once they got Neon were very close to winning and needed that one piece. I get that. The Jets on the other hand are not close and a shutdown CB is not a difference maker.
    I’m OK taking Warmack, we need so many things; if the guy is as “blue chip” as is advertised, then that’s one piece secured.

  76. By ronbo on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    IRA,S.C.JOE & T-64, Obviously none of us here has a crystal ball or any insight into whats being discussed at jet H.Q but my gut tells me the Revis situation wont be resolved anytime soon.I’m not sure its with in the rules but I’m wondering if we put it out there that any team can negioate a new contract with Revis which would then be subject to the Jets & whoever can sign him working out the compensation.obviously that would have to involve complete access to the medical info and and Revis passing a physical(which of course have to be a modified physical?) I dont see us getting any picks in this years draft.Most likely conditional picks next year based on games played, pro-bowl ect,ect..

  77. By ronbo on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    IRA,i guess we have to agree to disagree concerning Keller. My feeling is he quit on the team last year by refusing to play through what was originally described as a minor injury. He was listed day to day for the last 4 or 5 games which tells me he could have played. Obviously, rex wont come out and say that but I think we will soon see how the Jets really feel about him based on how hard they try to retain him. I’m hopeing not very hard as he is under-sized, not a good blocker, not a good route runner and his hands are so-so at best. He is simply not the difference maker this team needs. His skill set is not a good fit for a W/C offence.You need precise route runners with great hands.

  78. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    scjoe, I agree with you about Revis. Facts are facts, is he going to be the same Revis before the injury. Talk of waitinhg a week before the draft to see what he can do is not going to happen. His injury needs rehabilitation, and it is going to take until probably the 4th pre-season game before they start using Revis, it will not be any different then Peterson coming off his injury and then leading the league in rushing. Wouldn’t it be great if he pulled a Peterson in defensive position. If he did. YES… He will demand more money. If he can’t make a come back his stock is worthless. It is now a waiting game. John Idzik’s comment to wait and see and give Revis all the suuport the Jets could give him was very smart. Some are saying

  79. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    “CONTINUED” take a second rounder for him, I disagree with that. I like your second option… Trade Smith…

  80. By scjoe on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    C’mon Gary, that isn’t fair! Every college conference has it’s share of Navy’s, Wakes, and Kentucky’s (SEC) Not just ND. True, some may have more then others in any given year, but they all have them, generally speaking.

  81. By walt on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    I think the jets should definately keep Tim Tebow.Looking at the free agent class of quarterbacks there is no one I can see with much starting experience except for moore and he would probably cost about double what Tebow does.Tebow is only about 25 which is very young for a quarterback.He has shown in the past he can throw a decent long pass.We can draft a quarterback in the late rounds and keep him as a prospect on the regular or practce squad.Do not forget that Sanchez will mercifully be gone next year and we will need all the prospects to replace him.I think a lot of the problems with tebow not being popular with some fans is political.I think we should sign him long term while we can still get him cheap.

  82. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for Them Changes on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    Byrdman, we could lose all those guys tomorrow and it wouldn’t mean a thing given where we’ll be in two yrs. Let’s just make sure we get what w can for any of them, scjoe, since Revis will sign a 4-yr deal with someone this yr and ask for a new one in 2 yrs anyway.

  83. By scjoe on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    Those potential top 10 candidates are dropping like flies, medically speaking. With Star Lotulelei now having that heart issue that makes at least 4 of the top 10 with some kind of medical issue. Directly or indirectly, it will have an effect on who the Jets select at #9.

  84. By scjoe on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    64Frank, Thomas Howard is a pretty good LB, I think he can fill a need, however, he is an UFA, meaning there will be no compensation. His asking price may be to high though.

  85. By SQUIRREL on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    I think Byrdman must have watched A few Good Men and Terminator 2 this past weekend based upon his Gitmo and Hasta La Vista Baby references.

  86. By GaryC on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    Scjoe,Notre Dame has been an independent forever,no conference affiliation ever,they basically can select their schedule,was any team ever undeserving of a number one ranking,Have you ever seen a bigger discrepancy in a championship game and Notre Dame was number 1 and Alabama number 2.Their name got them the game.

  87. By GaryC on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    Scjoe,not saying Revis will be at full strength but showing enough might suffice to the team that might be a player away from the championship.Sometimes dangling the bait can bring back a good catch.

  88. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    I am sorta laughing on “WAIT’S” observations of “TEBOW” when we may get a QB in the 4th or 5th round because their will be plenty available. TT was a disaster from the beginning, and that’s all I will say on the TT problem.

    SCJOE, your right about Thomas Howard being good, but based on the money he will want, noway the Jets can bring him in…Your views about the top 10 is so accurate that even the scouts are starting to look at the top 10 through 20 now and who will be replacements for the 4 with medical issues.

    RONBO… I am with you On KELLER, as for REVIS he is not tradeable until he can get through rehabilitation. But you are right. He has to prove himself again…

  89. By Byrdman on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    Like everyone else here on “radar” I’m watching the NFL combine nonstop Squirrel :D But those two are some classic lines from a couple of great films.

    Between the pretend “girlfriend” scandal, the way he disappeared against Alabama, his combine 40 time and the latest rumors about Manti Te’o His draft stock is PLUMMETING! He’s dropping faster than a pair of worn out socks!
    He’s got that Notre Dame golden dome media hyped over-rated potential bust LOOK!

  90. By IRA on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    Great the Pats get Brady to take a cap friendly extension and now they will have lots of room for the next two years. Just wait if this Revis thing doesn’t work out for the Jets and he hits free agency after the 013 season I think Kraft would love to stick it to the Jets and sign him not only for the better of his team but that also would be some revenge for losing Curtis to the Jets. can’t make this up.

  91. By scjoe on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    Ron, technically, there can be no talks between Revis, his agent and other teams GMs. Those are the rules. BUT, you know as well as I, rules were made for 2 reasons, and one of those reasons are, they will be broken. You can bet the house that there has been discussion somewhere down the line, you just wont hear about it until the new football season begins in March. I hope I am wrong, but a couple of my last posts describe my feelings on the issue.

  92. By scjoe on Feb 25, 2013 | Reply

    I sure hope our very own, Mark Sanchez took note of what Tom Bradt did for the sake of the team, and follow suit.

  93. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for Them Changes on Feb 26, 2013 | Reply

    And the problem with this is?” “One NFC executive told The News that there is a sentiment around the league that Johnson not only isn’t interested in making Revis the highest-paid defensive player in the league, which would mean a salary of around $16 million per year, but that the owner doesn’t want to sign the cornerback to a lucrative long-term deal at all given the dire state of the franchise.”

  94. By ScfromNy on Feb 26, 2013 | Reply

    I think that all this speculation about trades, FAs, and draft picks while fun will not mean anything till we see and hear more on the available players and our cap space is locked in.

    Filling our needs at OLB, LB, Safety, OL, WR, and RB will mean nothing if we do not have a viable QB that can help score points and get 1rst downs to stay on the field.. I hope the GM and the scouting dept. are working overtime. All these draft “experts” do is make predictions they like. Remember when Kiper gaurenteed that Clauson would be the best QB?

    We have draft picks and should be very investigative about unsigned possibilities. We can use 2013 as a testing year and hopefully come back real strong in 2014.

  95. By SQUIRREL on Feb 26, 2013 | Reply

    Right on Byrdman!!!. Gotta love the Notre Dame favorisim and bias. If Teo was from somewhere else he would be blackbooked right now.

  96. By ronbo on Feb 26, 2013 | Reply

    S.C.Joe,Gary C,,T-64,Byrdman, Allan O,Spicer & any other fanatic’s out there, knowing you guys, you all are probably aware of this already but there is a site out there kind of like “Bleacher Report” (only better) its called “fan sided dailey” and there is a lot of good info there.Great combine coverage and lots of good Jets stuff as well. S.C.Joe, an interesting thing on NFL NET. this A.M. Story circulating that the Jets blew off Revis’s agents when they approached the Jets about Revis situation at the combine ?IRA, heres a thought, with Brady aboard another 3 years, where does that leave Ryan Mallette?I believe he has only one more year on his contract. And I cant imagine he would want to wait around 5 years to finally get a chance

  97. By ronbo on Feb 26, 2013 | Reply

    BYRDMAN, loved your 7 points above. Agree with them all but didn’t get where you were going on #7? GARY C, I’m beginning to wonder about a lot of guys in this draft? I saw a lot of Patterson at Tenn.He is a potential boom or bust guy as he is physically gifted but kind of a knucklhead.He bounced around a lot 3 colleges in 3 years?
    But I also saw him score a T.D recieving, rushing,punt return &a kickoff return so his talent is amazing.WALT, Tebow? are you kidding? I havn’t heard anybody advocateing Tebow in like forever?Come on dude?

  98. By scjoe on Feb 26, 2013 | Reply

    GaryC, I actually agree with you about NDs “name” and I am aware they are an independent, so let me rephrase what I said in that earlier post. All college “teams” have soft spots in their schedule EVERY year, that is true whether they are in a conference or if they are an independent. There has to be, just look at the ratio of college teams to “quality” college teams. Would you say that is a true and accurate statement?

  99. By scjoe on Feb 26, 2013 | Reply

    Ron, I have been trying to dissect this Revis situation every which way you can. Of course everything is speculation at this point. I think something very creative will emerge when all is said and done. Maybe KC and their overall #1 will come in to play. They can surely use a top CB. How about Revis and the Jets #2 to KC for their #1 and #3? That would give the Jets the #1 and #8 in the 1st round, and the #1 and #10 in the 3rd round. Now, if you can trade that #1 overall back down for a 1, a 2, and maybe a 4, and draft wisely, my theory about “competing” this year would make a lot more sense.

  100. By kleckofan on Feb 26, 2013 | Reply

    Gary C- are you kidding me? You said a rapper (50 Cent) was in full possession of his faculties; that by definition is almost an oxymoron. What the heck is a rapper doing at a NASCAR event anyway?, if he was fully coherent he would have been somewhere else. Very lame attempt at a smooch, then followed Erin Andrews around like a pupp. Lost “cred” with every step.
    Ronbo- totally agree on Keller, we need better. If he were quicker maybe he could do that out of the backfield play Hernandez does so well.
    If Marty thinks he could make some use of Tebow in the WCO (not as QB) then I’m not opposed to keeping him, we’ll get nothing for him; the circus will have died somewhat and Tim will be anxious to play anywhere.

  101. By Allan O'Dane on Feb 26, 2013 | Reply

    64tom/Ronbo..Revis is a goner. The more this drags out..the more likely hood Revis will be traded. KC is looking into trading for Revis..I’ll take that, as long as they give up their #1 & 3rd or 4th rd pick and throw in Cassel/Quinn. That way we use 2 picks in 1st round to get an OL and a OLB. We can get a RB or TE in the 2nd rd. And in the 3rd get another OL and WR. This year QB class does not impress me. From what I understand this years QB class will take a little time to develop, they are not ready to jump right in and take over an NFL offense.

  102. By GaryC on Feb 26, 2013 | Reply

    It certainly looks like fete comple with Revis and the jets,who knows,maybe a deal has been consummated already,just waiting for the free agency period to announce the deal.Maybe Green Bay is looking for Woodson’s replacement,they need a lot of help in their secondary.

  103. By ronbo on Feb 26, 2013 | Reply

    BYRDMAN, you know I’m one of your biggest fans here on Randy’s Radar so you wont be offended when I urge caution to those who want to jump on the banwagon in regard to bashing Mante Teo. I’m not a fan of his in anyway but one thing I have learned from experience is to look at the whole picture.Obviously he looked bad with the scandal and the media was highly critical of his game vs. Bama.Fine, I get that.My take on the Bama game was yes, he got blocked a lot and missed some tackles.On the other hand, its easy to see why he missed a lot of the them because he was being blocked by guys like Chance Warmack -

  104. By ronbo on Feb 26, 2013 | Reply

    cont.-Barrett Jones & D.J.Fluker,all of whom will be drafted in the first two rounds.As some of those guys have over a hundred pounds on him I think its fair to say some of his misses were understandable.Bye the way, the other guys on the Bama line will go in the first rd of next years draft.The other reason I think we need to cut him some slack is that his over all career has been outstanding and how highly regarded he is by his school & his team mates as well.While I think pick#9 is too high I would love him in rd.2

  105. By Tom Spicer on Feb 26, 2013 | Reply

    Sources tell Yahoo’s Jason Cole that “multiple teams” approached the Jets about Darrelle Revis’ availability at the Combine. Jets management is taking a “passive-aggressive approach,” according to Cole, not actively contacting anyone about Revis but being “all ears” whenever phone calls come. Cole also confirms there were zero discussions between the Jets and Revis’ camp at the Combine. It’s quite possible the Jets have already made up their mind on Revis and will trade him. He could probably fetch a first-round pick.

  106. By Tom Spicer on Feb 26, 2013 | Reply

    SCJoe & Gary C, I know you are SEC guys. What do you think about Jarvis Jones with the #9 pick?

  107. By Tom Spicer on Feb 26, 2013 | Reply

    I was thinking the Jets are in a good position this year to get a QB in the 2nd round besides Geno Smith. Every other QB may fall to the 2nd round we can got a really good prospect in round 2 like Glennon or Barkley or maybe even Wilson or Manuel in round 3.

  108. By steven on Feb 26, 2013 | Reply

    Jets trade Revis for first & third & conditional first in 2014 draft. Jets trade Crowmartie for first & third. Jets Get Margus Hunt 7 Dion Jordan in the first round & Eddie Lacy in the second round.& two cornerbacks in the third. The Jets get younger, faster, better cap. Nobody is worth 16 million per.& hurt are worth nothing. If ur selfish enough to demand 16 million u care about yourself and not the team. We fans care about the team. Better start over & build a young fast affordable team. Next year with two first Round picks trade up for jadeveon clowney or Johnny Football. In two years we have a football team. Since when have the Jets been fun to watch since Joe Namath? After 30 years a fan I want a team that can win Patriots & SUPERBOWL

  109. By Karan on Feb 26, 2013 | Reply

    Saw a list of best bargain free agent candidates today and some of these options I never considered but they could be pretty good. Mike Cox should be considered as the fullback and if Revis is traded or let go or whatever, Charles Woodson can be a nice 2 year replacement. If Keller walks, Fred Davis could be a nice replacement. He’s not a blocker but a good receiving Tight End. Obviously, the running back all Jets fans including myself from the free-agent market want to have is Chris Ivory mainly because he can be afforable. Of course, Mendenhall and especially Bush can be other good options, but they might be a bit costly for this cap strapped team.

  110. By IRA on Feb 26, 2013 | Reply

    Ronbo good point about Malllett point if you ever think the Jets and Pats would make a trade between themselves you are nuts. That my friend will never happen.
    So much speculation from the media and us about Revis we will all have to wait and see how this plays out. These are the options I see that could happen
    Jets trade him before the draft if they get the right package, trade him in August or before the trade deadline, No team wants to pay a CB 16 mill plus and he settles for less from the highest bidder after the season or some team comes in and gives him a Mario Williams deal and that for sure will not be the Jets.
    My take is he is traded as soon as the Jets get the best offer. This is a no win situation for the Jets.

  111. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for Them Changes on Feb 26, 2013 | Reply

    Thanks for that tip on the site, Ronbo. My computer is causing trouble and may have to go down for a few days, so it may be awhile before I go on it or am back on here. But for now all I’ll say is that Aso’s situation on PHI at the moment — with them ready to cut him if he doesn’t re-structure — is the kind of thing somebody could easily face with Revis soon. Let’s make sure it’s not us.

  112. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for Them Changes on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Great news from Myers if true: “Despite the damage control talk from Idzik and Ryan in Indy about how much they value Revis, the source told the Daily News on Tuesday that Idzik was “actively” shopping Revis at the combine, and interested teams are now doing their homework on what it would take to get Revis signed to a new contract if they can satisfy the Jets with compensation. The News reported exclusively Tuesday that Idzik, Ryan and team owner Woody Johnson didn’t meet with Revis’ camp during the Combine. Idzik is basically flying solo on the Revis talks with Ryan and other members of the organization (other than Johnson) out of the loop.” Idzik flying solo on personnel decisions and Rex staying out of it — best late Xmas present ever!

  113. By Allan O'Dane on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Revis doesn’t want to be the highest paid CB..he wants to be the highest paid Def.player! This team is not 1 corner away from winning a superbowl, the NYJ are multiple players away from making the playoffs let alone the superbowl. Revis is not worth 16mil a year. How many games will Revis win the NYJ? We need a franchise QB..a RB/WR/TE/OL/LB/OLB …Revis is coming off a knee injury and hasn’t played in year so the ball is not in his court. So he can huff & puff all he wants. He should be mad at Cro for having such a good year..because it shows WE DON’T NEED YOU! The NYG won a superbowl with a secondary that was just awful. It was their pass rush that took heat off the secondary. Other players should take note..this new GM is not Mike T.

  114. By Tom Spicer on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    This next 2 weeks are going to be very interesting. Free agency starts on March 12th. We will see who the Jets re sign before then, who they cut to free up more money before then (Pouha & Tebow), who they restructer before then (Holmes, Cromartie, Harris, Brick or Mangold) to free up more money. By the end of March we will have a much more clear picture of what type of team we have going into the draft.

  115. By Allan O'Dane on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    This whole deal with Manti Teo, I really couldn’t careless about the internet hoax. Can the man play football? this is the only thing that matters to me. Is he the next Luke Kuechly? I don’t care about his 40time..Can he go sideline to sideline? If he falls into the second rnd, should the NYJ take him? He had 1 bad game against Bama…who didn’t have a bad game against Bama..That off.line was the best in college footnball. We need LB’s. If he’s available in the 2nd rd. NYJ should take a long look. Could be the heir to Harris. DeMario Davis and Teo looks like a good combo to me.

  116. By Tom Spicer on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    I would try to trade Revis now I dont even want to take the chance of losing him & only getting one of those compensetory picks. If we are going to do a deal do it before the draft. If we could get a 1st & a 2nd for him even if it was the last pick in each of those rounds I would take it. If we could go into the draft with 2 1st & 2 2nd round picks. If the picks work out not only could we turn this thing around quickly but we would have long term, cheap & young talent.

  117. By GaryC on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Kleckofan,that comment about the rapper was because of the flap Broadway Joe got,this liberal media will put this under the rug,and why isn’t Erin Andrews saying anything,wasn’t there another creep who posted photos of her changing,she should of hauled off and threw the guy a right cross.

  118. By ronbo on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    IRA, I wasn’t suggesting we trade for Mallette as I agree that is very unlikely. Actually someone else (I think S.C.Joe?)had brought that up several headers ago and I basically said the same thing. S.C.Joe & Allan O, The whole Revis situation is not one of my favorite topic’s as I have mixed feelings.We have so few all-time great home grown players and it would be nice if he finished his career in green.Obviously the contract situation will likely prevent that from happaning.STEVEN, I had speculated the exact same scenario you suggested above as to get full value,teams will want to defer some of the cost a year to guarantee value for themselves predicated on Revis being Revis.

  119. By GaryC on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Spicer,there are a lot of guys with a lot of questions,with Jarvis Jones,it is that spinal issue,I would prefer his teammate Ogletree,but again,another guy with issues,funny there teammate Washington blew up the combine and he might of moved into a second or third round pick,as of now I might prefer to move down in this draft to about the 15-20 range and get additional picks,This top ten this year might be a little scary.

  120. By ronbo on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    SPICER,I know you asked S.C.Joe, but my feeling is Jarvis Jones is worth the #9 pick.Yes there are medical concerns and he is not a great fit in a 3-4 def. as he is only 6-2 235. Most teams prefer taller heavier guys as they need bulk to set the edge and maintain there outside contain.The thing is, with more athletic Q.B’s who like to run I think this posisition will evolve to needing guys quick and fast enough to play against the read-option.Also,Jones is an excellent edge rusher & thats exactly what we need.

  121. By GaryC on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Ronbo,concerning Teo,when you are 6’1 and 240,his true measurables you better run faster then a 4.82.that being said,Rey Malaeuga from the Bengals who I compare Teo too had much better measurables out of USC and has been average at best.

  122. By ronbo on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Karan, First of all,Fred Davis is twice the blocker Keller is.Secondly, we dont need another plodder like Shonn Greene so that leaves Mendenhall out.there are a lot of Chris Ivory types(small quick guys) in this years draft who will come cheaper so why get involved with him? I would suggest you look at some different lists before you contact Woodie or the I-Man with your suggestions.Bye the way,do you really think a team with so litte cap room can afford Reggie Bush or Fred Davis?

  123. By scjoe on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Spicer, there is so much uncertainty in this draft among the top ten (medical and personal) Jarvis Jones is just one of them! Now, “if” healthy and verified by the NYJ medical staff, and “if” available at #9 and “if” Idzik actually has final say, I think not only he becomes a Jet, but probably the best choice as well. The reason I say IF Idzik has final say is because we all know Rex leans toward much bigger and much stronger LBs in his scheme. I also feel that “if” totally healthy he don’t get past Jax.

  124. By scjoe on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Ira, I agree that “at this point in time” it (Revis) appears to be a no win situation for the Jets, all things considered. But you never know for sure until the final papers are signed. If you try to get inside the typical owners head, and consider how much money they are making, you will conclude that tens of millions to them is like 10s and 20s to us. So maybe the money part of the equation can be taken off the table. It will just come down to compensation and health. Maybe a 2013 pick AND a 2014 “conditional” pick?

  125. By Allan O'Dane on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    This just in from Jay Glazer…Alex Smith is now a Kansas City Chief…So there goes one of my hopes….what else is new?…

  126. By Tom Spicer on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Alex Smith just got traded to Kansas City for a 2nd round pick this year & a 4th round pick next year. If the Jets get anything less than a 1st round pick & a 3rd round pick for Revis EVERYONE should get fired!

  127. By Tom Spicer on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Also the Redskins gave up 3 1st round pikc & a 3rd round pikc for RG3. The Jets better get AT LEAST a 1st & a 3rd for this guy.

  128. By Byrdman on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Not sure if that’s “great” news 64Tom or just more unnamed sources our friends at the News are using to gin up another scandal. Remember the ‘source’ said Tebow refused to run wildcat plays (Ryan and Tebow both adamantly denied those reports and I believe Tebow) If you think about it, for Idzik to have a presser claiming the Jets are not actively seeking a trade, then to be caught shopping the guy like a riding lawn mower on ebay is dishonest. Jets come off looking two-faced (ha, whats new?)
    Iczik “flying solo” would be welcome news – Woody flying Idzik like his own personal predator drone doesn’t exactly thrill me!

  129. By uncle joe on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Pack your bags for San Fran,Mevis!!!!!

  130. By Byrdman on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Ronbo – regarding that point #7 question – I was indirectly implying that all the rest of the Jets roster are just average generic players and with little impact on the teams record plus or minus. Revis, Dbrick and Mangold would be significant losses, not easily replaced in a draft or free agency.
    To me Manti Te’o was a second rounder Before the hoax and before disappearing against Bama. That game spoke volumes to scouts – “how does Manti play vs(basically) a Pro offensive line” ? Answer = Not great, looked lost, looked slow, overwhelmed,frustrated and beaten badly. The 40 time at the combine dropped him into the 3rd or 4th round for Jet nation. we know first hand how lack of elite speed at LB is a death sentence in the NFL.

  131. By Tom Spicer on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    “CBS’ Clark Judge suggests the 49ers make a run at Darrelle Revis after reportedly acquiring the No. 34 pick in the Alex Smith trade. Staggeringly, the 49ers now have five of the first 93 picks, and are expected to have 15 total once compensatory selections are doled out. The 49ers couldn’t create roster spots for 15 picks if they tried, so a handful will be shipped out of town. With the Nos. 31 and 34 selections, the 49ers would probably think long and hard about a package.” 5 of the 1st 93 picks the 49ers are the team we should be talking to about a trade.

  132. By Tom Spicer on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    “The Jets have reportedly “made it known” that they’d like to re-sign free agent SS LaRon Landry.
    The Jets have had some discussions with Landry’s representatives, but we’d expect him to hit the open market. The hard-hitting yet injury-prone former Redskin will want to cash in after actually playing in all 16 games last year. The cap-strapped Jets may not be able to afford Landry, who is believed to be seeking $6 million annually” Landry made $3,500,000 last year I would offer him a 3 year $4,500,000 per year deal before free agency & lock him up. With Landry, Bell, Cromartie & Wilson we dont need Revis the pass D was not the problem. The run D was bad & we had the worst O trade Revis for picks & build up the team.

  133. By Row on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Alex Smith for a second round pick. Sounds like much of the same with the new GM. Sanchez will fail and he should be fired along with him. Poor management already!

  134. By uncle joe on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    I’ve seen a trade senario of Revis to 49ers for RB Lamichael James ( love it),and their 1,two 3s, a 5 & a 6. I would take that in a New York Second. Does anyone know if a trade can happen before that million dollar bonus to Revis is due?

  135. By uncle joe on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    This might happen sooner than we thought, the Jets would want to ship Revis before his Bonus is due and the 49ers would want to get it done before someone sweetens the offer.

  136. By SQUIRREL on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Allan O’Dane – well said. that would be picture perfect. we could only hope for that package but it would be great. Cassel or Quinn competing with Sanchez and those extra picks. draft just like you suggest and then you keep Braylon Edwards restructire holmes, Kerley as your third wideout. bolster that line and find a running back in free agency. i like it. .

  137. By Allan O'Dane on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Since San fran is such in a giving mood…why not make the trade Dashon Goldson and a 4th round pick for Revis? Unless Goldson signed a long term contract already. Before some people bite my head off this was completely dream trade here…But, you have to admit it’s not a bad idea…

  138. By MIKE on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    I don’t think the Jets are going to get a 1st and 2nd round pick for Revis. His injury hinges on everything. Right now with his unknown status we may be better off getting SF 2 2nd rounders in 2013 and a 2nd rounder in 2014. Not sure too many teams will part with a 1st rounder for a guy coming off a major injury.

    Look at it this way.
    1) Jets have 1 1st round pick (pass rusher)
    2) Jets have 3 2nd round picks (QB, WR, OL)
    3) Jets save 15 mil in salary and resign Landry, and sign Reggie Bush.

  139. By GaryC on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    It is funny how the combine changed Kiper’s best available do to the workouts,and then other commentors say it is what the film says,more important then the combine,like one hand doesn’t know what the other is doing.Can someone tell me the importance of a vertical leap if someone’s arm is longer then someone else’s,or the broad jump which measures explosion and you run with your legs alternating front and back,not together.

  140. By GaryC on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Perfect scenario,Bring in Cassel,draft Barkley,with Sanchez we definitely would have the Trojan corner covered.

  141. By Pranit on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Trust the Jets for doing the wrong thing. So they will end up trading Revis for a pick or two..and that pick will be an average to bust player (with the Jets draft picking abilities..). The Jets just know how and when to take the wrong decision to plummet the team and organization.

    KEEP REVIS !!!!!!!

  142. By IRA on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    SF is the perfect landing spot. Think they don’t know if Revis was covering Boldin they win the SB. Biggest hurdle is not the picks its the team that wants to trade for him trying to sign him to a long term deal without seeing play. Once again this was all handled wrong by the Jets going back to the summer of 010. This should have never gotten to this point and now its time to turn the page and move on and get back the best compensation for him that you can.
    They have so much work to do to get this team were we alll want them to be. Lets hope its sooner than later.
    GO JETS!!!!

  143. By ronbo on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Allan O, I like Dashon Goldson a lot better than I like L.Landry, so yeah, make the deal! Spicer, no way I ink Landry to a 3 year deal. First of all, you are the guy who likes to quote stats and discuss articles you read and pro football weekly says Landry graded out as one of the bottom safty’s last year. The guy is lousey in pass coverage, blows a lot of tackles trying to make the big hit and draws a lot of penaltys for late hits as well. When you add in his less than stellar injury history he is not worth tieing up that kind of money. Dont forget,unless somthing changes we have two of the highest paid C.B’s in the entire NFL and one of them wants a big raise.How much money can we tie up in the secondary?

  144. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for Them Changes on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    GaryC and Allan, Arte and I were saying on the phone this morning that the most likely places for Revis are GB, NO, and SF, as I said the minute the season ended, teams that are strong on O but need crucial help on D. Idzik, The Gift That Keeps On Giving: Isn’t it wonderful to read that Pat White is planning a comeback and Rex WON’T be talking tomorrow morning about how great he’d be in the Wildcat on the Jets? Karan, I appreciate your research into possible FA RBs, but I don’t think we’re gonna spend much of anything in that direction. What some folks haven’t caught onto yet is that we are in full-on rebuilding now, with Rex merely taking up space until Woody can lose him without paying him. In other words, we’re not “close.”

  145. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for Them Changes on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Byrdman, when we were looking for a GM, and especially when we signed Idzik, I said that a 52-yr-old guy with a resume like that had absolutely no reason to come to a pathetic franchise like this unless he was given free rein. So as Arte and I were saying this morning, when Johnson asked what he’d do as GM, Idzik probably said, “I’d trade Revis, Holmes, and any other vet who’s too expensive and too old to wait out the rebuilding plan that I’ll put into motion. I’d lose Rex and Sanchez as soon as it can be done affordably. And I won’t do anything unless you give me at least a 3-yr-deal in which to get it done.” I’m pretty sure what we’re seeing stems from that, not from any running of the show on Woody’s part.

  146. By IRA on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Reports are out there that SF would consider giving up their 1st and the 34th pick they got from KC for Revis and then make him play out his contract this year and then hope to sign him to a long term deal once he shows he is healthy. If I were Idzik I would try to squeeze one more pick out of them and jump all over that offer. Also reports that B Quinn could vey well end up on the Jets. I think McElroy’s days as a Jet could be over after August. Besides Quinn another veteran could be added and I think Moore or Campbell are strong candidates.

  147. By since shea on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Jets flying under the radar this year. No headlines really at all. With injury and medical questions on the big top 10 names in the draft, I still say trade down for more picks and get O Line, OLB, TE. Get the building blocks now and get our QB in next years draft. Not sure about Revis. Hate to lose a player like that but cannot stand the selfish full of himself prima donna who will break our bank. Would hate more to see him on the Pats. He would go there to spite us no doubt.

  148. By Chicago Bob on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Please tell me how Alex Smith all of a sudden became this great QB? This is the same guy the 49ers almost cut when they were in the Manning sweepstakes. Take a look at the 49ers O – there are plenty of QB’s in the NFL that would have done better than him. The 49ers are not stupid, they know his success was largely dependant on the talent around him. All of you who wish the Jets made a push for him make sure to watch how well the great Alex Smith does next year with an average offense around him. KC overpaid for him, I would have given up a #3 at best and no more. The guy has basically been a zero his entire career and the 49ers put one of the best offenses in the NFL together and all of a sudden he is a great QB. Jets did the right thing.

  149. By Mike Jet Vet on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Jets assets. going into 2013 draft Sanchez QB , Revis now a questionmark with a very high price tag , Holmes don’t get me started, Tebow, cough cough >Wildcat specialist , J-McKnight, nice kid just not NFL material.. I would continue but I have to finish living whats left of my life.

  150. By GaryC on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    JetFanTom,this is what I mean about the culture of the jets,vis a vis a dynasty,Timmons and Brown are restructed already because they want to remain steelers,still waiting for some high profiled jets to do the same,It is always the teams that continue to win that the players will accept less to win.

  151. By Frank on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    You can’t win without a QB in this league. Smith for a second round pick? and we do nothing? This was the absolute best case scenerio since the 49ers were the best option to trade Revis and get a top flight PROVEN NFL QB and the best available this year. If this teams picks a QB at number 9 I will have had enough and it will be abundantly clear they don’t know what they are doing. All these QB names being thrown around is a joke NONE of them will make a difference and won’t add squat to the QB picture of this team.
    Flynn is the only other trade I will feel confident and if they don’t make that happen this team is a 4 win team next year. If they don’t get Flynn I would rather keep Tebow and have Marty design the O for him as starter.

  152. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Everyone is forgetting that one of the best RB’s is now available as a free agent Steven Jackson. According to ESPN who are stating he would best be suited for the following teams: Falcons, Ravens, Giants, “JETS”amongg others. This is someone the front office should look at if they have intentions in trading Revis. I realize the key is money. But, this is one heck of a RB to get in our backfield.

  153. By Allan O'Dane on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Chicago Bob, I don’t think any of the posters here think that Alex Smith is a GREAT QB, Just better then what we have on our roster. This kid has seen several different off.coord. His progess was somewhat hindered. 64tom, SF and GB are the 2 teams I see Revis going to. SF wins the SB if Revis covers Boldin. Also since GB let go of woodson they need to shore up their secondary and Revis would be a good fit for them. Just give us draft picks to rebuild and I’m happy.

  154. By Allan O'Dane on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Ronbo..you are spot on Landry. If this guy would just wrap up on his tackles instead of going for the kill shot all the time, I would say NYJ should consider re-signing him. But I think Rex is in love with his style of play and wants that intimidating factor on his defense. But his coverage skill is 50/50 at best. But we all know with his style he is a concussion waiting to happen. Between Landry & Bell..I’ll take Bell and start one the younger guys Bush/Allen. Sooner or later we have to start these young bucs and get speed out there on field.

  155. By Allan O'Dane on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    1964Frank, S.Jackson would have been perfect for the Jets..IF we were built like the 2009-2010 version of NYJ. This is not the same team anymore..We are in a rebuilding mode. Time to get younger and faster. Yes there will be growing pains, but if we draft right and add key Vet. Players to help out in the locker room with leadership & help these young kids develop that’s the winning formula. Let’s get some OLineman & stud RB and a TE like Ertz..( I like this kid ). And of course a QB.

  156. By ronbo on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    IRA, Great post above,I agree 100% with your compensation
    ideas.I think this is probably gonna be as good an opportunity to trade him & get value as we are likely to get.From what i have been gathering this draft is all gonna come down to quantity vs. quality. This draft has a lot of good players who will go in the mid rounds and contribute right away.Frank,read Chicago Bobs post above as he is spot on!Smith is a product of Harboughs excellent coaching and great surrounding talent.He will be smaal improvement over Cassell.

  157. By ronbo on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    SINSE SHEA, again, i agree,trade down!With all the injuries & madical issues concerning the original top 10 projected players i think if we can trade down into the teens or even early 20′s and pick up a second rd. pic I would be cool with that.JET FAN FRANK,is a great player but we will not contend next season so that type of expensive upgrade is not likely to happan.As T-64 says,this team is in full re-build and needs to concentrate on getting younger & more athletic.

  158. By Tom Spicer on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Ronbo, You are funny. You think you know everything & run this site. Revis is as good as off this team it is just a matter of when & what we get. So your tying money up in the secondary theroy is up in smoke. Also Landry blows alot of tackles? I am not sure what Jet games you were watching but Landry had many touch down saving tackles & just happened to make the pro bowl. I dont care what pro football weekly says. As SCJoe like to say “I know what I see with my own eyes”

  159. By Byrdman on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    64Tom – Yeah, I like your optimistic view on Idzik and this whole soap opera. Hope you’re right and Woody has swallowed his pride, cast away any illusions that he’s Al Davis or Jim Jones and placed the future of this beleaguered franchise in the new GM’s hands.
    Are we ready to embrace the concept of a total rebuild ? Based upon comments here, many folks think we’re one Alex Smith or one Steven Jackson or one (fill in this blank) from the playoffs. I’m excited about the possibility of seeing 6-7 new starters next year. Lets draft our own Jackson, build an Oline that blots out the sun, draft (2nd or later) and develop a young gunslinger while Moore or Quinn or any lower price FA holds down the fort. How do you like Tyler Bray in the 3rd?

  160. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for Them Changes on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    scjoe, there’s no contract that any lawyer can draw up that can alter Revis’ character, proven to be woefully lacking, and eliminate his meddling, greedy uncle from the equation. GaryC, your pt about the Jet culture gets jury-out status at the moment because we’re one of the worst-coached, lowest-talent teams in the league. When players see no Sanchez, no Rex, no Butt Fumble, no ground and pound, and some attempt at competing realistically on O, they might change their minds. Ira, if I live to be 100 I’ll never understand why you needed last yr to see that Sanchez shoulda been challenged by McElroy and the likes of Campbell in that season, as I said when Mr T got Tebow and upped MS’s deal instead.

  161. By GaryC on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    IRA,if the jets cut McElroy without giving him fair chance of starting this can become another Woodhead blunder,Hopefully with Idzik saneness will be the new opt word in Jetland.

  162. By Chicago Bob on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    If reports are correct that SF is serious about Revis, this is the best possible thing to happen to the Jets. Having possibly the most talented team in football pursue Revis should drive the stakes up as most serious competitors will now enter the “sweepstakes”. It does make sense for the 49ers as they have a boatload of draft picks to offer and with a healthy Revis could possibly set them up for multiple runs at the Super Bowl for years to come (if they can retain him). Yes, their #1 pick is not so attractive however if we can get a hold of the Chiefs #2 that they now supposedly have, it would be huge to have 4 picks in the first 40-45 players. Jets would then have leverage to even move up in round 1. Let’s hope this is accurate.

  163. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    I am in full agreement in rebuilding, that I have been saying all along and the place to start is with an OLB and the OFFENSE and we can rebuild through the draft. The one adevantage of having a RB like Steven Jackson is his age, power and ability to run inside and outside. If you have a RB that can run and take pressure off of th QB it opens the passing game. Jackson is young and if you take a good look at how how he earned his yards 75% of his yards were on his own. We need good offensive blockers no doubt about that, but we definitly need a RB. I am in full agreement if the front office makes Revis available St. Louis just might swap out and what a better place to start with a rusher like Jackson. With the 9th pick we should go for

  164. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for Them Changes on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Byrdman, painful as the thought of a 3-13 season is, I’m starting to agree with those, like Allan in his excellent mock draft on the story ahead of this one, who seem to be saying that if we can’t get Smith or Manuel at QB we’re better off taking one 2nd or 3rd, seeing how that guy does up against Sanchez and McElroy for 2013, and then maybe drafting another one in 2014. Pretty ironic that on a team that needs a QB this bad, Mr T and Rex totally forgot about Parcells’ idea that you should try to draft a QB every yr. That is, if Rex ever heard it — his idea is that you should draft only DBs and DL guys every yr!

  165. By Chicago Bob on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Allan O Dane: OK, granted I may have used the wrong word in GREAT for Alex Smith however people have been bringing his name up as an answer for our QB problems when in fact, you take away this season where he had possibly the best overall offense in football around him and he is a career sub 60 passer – and THIS is the guy we want to bring in? Not me. I keep seeing numerous posts that an elite QB is needed to win a Super Bowl – I hardly think this is the guy who is going to take us to that level. You can use the excuses of multiple OC’s however there is a QB currently wearing green & white that you can use that same excuse for. If we got Smith, within a year or two we would be looking for an upgrade. Good move, Idzik, let him go to KC.

  166. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    an OLB Dion Jones or Bjoern Werner DE or Ezekel Ansah DE. I feel the first round will be very important on how we pick. Free agency based on money is also going to be impoortant, but I still feel the draft is more important then high strung money hungry free agents.

    Who ever said Mark Sanchez should be a bit like Tom Brady on money, well, what can I say about that except MS is not a Tom Brady in any way, shape or form. I do not know who is going to play QB, none of us do. But I tell you what I do believe “McElroy’ just may get his shot and prove he is the QB of the future, some may disagree. It is just a feeling. Several years ago I watched another low drafted QB t6ake the place of another QB and he went to 3 SB’s and won 2 of

  167. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Continued — and that was Tom Brady….One never knows where talent is hidden…

  168. By Byrdman on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    64Frank – You really like Steven Jackson,I get that but, are we talking about the same guy ? The one is St.Lois was drafted in 2004, so 2013 will be his 10th season playing RB and taking all those hits the NFL dishes out. That Jackson wants a big payday and the chance to win a ring. A high priced 30 year old FA running back with about a million miles on the chassis, how do you see him as a good fit for a rebuilding team like the Jets?
    The ONLY similarity between Tom Brady and Greg McElroy is where they were drafted! McElroy got exposed for what he is – a guy who played on a ridiculously talented college team but lacks the size, speed and arm strength to play at the NFL level – Brady is an un-explainable anomaly in NFL draft history!

  169. By scjoe on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    64, I would be the first to agree with you about Revis whining, about his meddling uncle, about his entire off field persona in general, but where we seem to disagree (or, at least where I disagree) is what he does ON the field, and to me, that supersedes everything else. Again, I am fine either way, with resigning Revis sensibly and practically, OR getting a nice package. Bottom line…What ever is best for the NY Jets on the playing field, everything else is secondary.

  170. By scjoe on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Chicago Bob/Alan O’ Dane, It is a moot point now, but re: Alex Smith, he may not be great, he may not be elite, but he, just like Matt Moore, Flynn, Henne, and maybe one or two others who “may” be available all have one thing in common, all are definite and immediate upgrades to anyone on this current roster at the most critical position.

  171. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for Them Changes on Mar 1, 2013 | Reply

    Any team that signs David Gerrard isn’t looking to be competitive in that season, scjoe, so signing Revis is of absolutely no importance. Trading him and getting much-needed draft picks that will be made by Idzik and the next HC rather than Mr T and Rex is.

  172. By Chicago Bob on Mar 1, 2013 | Reply

    scjoe: I fully realize that the players you named may be better than what we currently have but I sure as heck do not want to give up a high draft choice or pay a lot of money to a guy who is basically holding down the fort until we get a quality player at QB. That draft pick and money could be used more wisely. If you can get them without breaking the bank or giving up a high pick, then I fully agree.

  173. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Mar 1, 2013 | Reply

    Byrdman, yes we are talking about the same guy who is 29. Do I think the JETS can afford him “NO” I do not, by the way he is 29 years old. Do I like him you bet I do. I think I even stated there would be a money factor with any one in the free agent narket for the Jets to obtain. So ike I previously said we need to look to the draft and get one of these players OLB Dion Jones or Bjoern Werner DE or Ezekel Ansah DE, and my preference would be Jones, we need Offensive linemen as well such as Lane Johnson OT, Jonathan Cooper OG, DJ Fluker OT, Terron Armstead OT or Larry Warford OG, some will be available some will be available in the later rounds, As for McElroy, I feel the way you describe him is not how I see him. However, Idzik

  174. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Mar 1, 2013 | Reply

    said he was bringing in compitition in the QB slot and there will be some young QB’s available in the later rounds such as Mike Glennon NCS, Tyler Wilson Arkansas, Ryan Nassib Syracuse, EJ Manuel Florida State, and Tyler Bray of Tenn. BYRDMAN, there are a lot of good picks out there it’s all up to the front office on how they draft. 3 Teams that proved the draft is more important then free agency is, Atlanta, Indie and the Vikings OH yea, lets trhrow Seattle in the also…. Something the Jet staff has ignored.

  175. By Byrdman on Mar 1, 2013 | Reply

    64 Frank – OK thanks, I just reread your previous posts concerning Jackson where you stated “The one advantage of having a RB like Steven Jackson is his age” you continued “Jackson is Young” ?
    Steven Jackson has been a great RB in this league for a decade, this coming season he will turn 30. Now, from my perspective a 30 year old QB could be considered in his prime but, a RB with over 10,000 yards getting hit by 320 lb lineman, and hundreds of hard tackles by LB’s and safeties – is nearly shot. The Jets look to be in full rebuild mode = (low priced, younger, faster, rookies, draft picks) I just didn’t understand why you thought Jackson would fit that plan. I’d love to see the guy go to a contender and get a SB ring, wouldn’t you?

  176. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Mar 1, 2013 | Reply

    Byrdman… I fully agree Jackson should go to a contender. especially since there are RB’S such as Eddy Lacey RB, ALA, Giavani Bernard RB, NC, Monte Belle RB, WIS, Jonathan Franklin RB, UCLA we should be able to get one of these prime RB’s in the later rounds, my preference is Giavani Bernard. Would also be great to snag one of these TE’S in the later rounds Vince McDonald of Rice, Tyler Effert, ND or Travis Kelce, Cinci. But I still would like to see an OLB such as Jarvis Jones on our team who will be a fisrt rounder. My belief is the first round is going to defensaive and big offensive players in the first round and that some of the players I mentioned will be available in the 3rd and 4th rounds. Once again I will state this and I

  177. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Mar 1, 2013 | Reply

    (Continued) am sure you will agree, the Jets Coaches as well as the Front Office has always sucked when it came to draft picks, they prefered other team rejects over the draft. I hope Idzik changes that, he seems smart enough to do just that…

  178. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Mar 1, 2013 | Reply

    I just read a twit that the JETS are thinking about giving JARRARD of the Jags a workout…. WHY? he is 35 years old. There are some young QB’s out there. I am in agreement to move Revis depending on getting a first rounder, and as many second rounders at least 2 and 1 3rd round from SAN FRAN for him…….Lets look at who is available as QB’s in the draft; Geno Smith, WV, Mike Glennon, NCS, Tyler Wilson, Ark, Ryan Nassib, Syracuse, E J Manual, Florida State. Anyone of these guys can beat out MS or TT. Once again the front office is going to give another team reject who is OLD a try out. OH WELL!!!

  179. By scjoe on Mar 1, 2013 | Reply

    ChicagoBob, Oh yes, I agree 100% about not giving up a ANY draft choice or paying any high price for a short term answer at QB. From my perspective, the ideal situation would be to sign a guy like Matt Moore short term, although he is still pretty young in QB terms, and you never know how he may click in Morningwigs system, but the Jets QB of the future has to come in this years draft in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th round. That is sensible and within the cap parameters . They said they wanted to go into camp with 5 QBs, how about Moore, Sanchez, McElroy, Simms, and the rookie pick?

  180. By Ronbo on Mar 2, 2013 | Reply

    SPICER,Wow! Dude,I am very diappointed with your attack!Personally, I feel you crossed a line there bro!But no, I hardly think I know everything.And the last time I checked Randy was still running things here? Like most people here I post my opinion here but I ALWAYs respect every one else’s as well. I may offer a counter opinion when I disagree but I would never cross that line like you did bro!I went back & read my comment to you and I see nothing there that deserved that?

  181. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for Them Changes on Mar 2, 2013 | Reply

    No reason “the Jets’ QB of the future” can’t come in NEXT yr’s draft, scjoe, and the ideal scenario is actually that Sanchez doesn’t “come into camp” with the Jets this yr at all, as we KNOW HE’S not “the Jets’ QB of the future.” In fact, he’s really just taking up space so the sooner we get rid of him for something, don’t have to pay him, and don’t ever again have to hear Rex say anything like, “I made the decision to go with Mark. I feel great about the decision,” the better. Of course, the day I no longer have to look at Rex on this site or anywhere else within 3,000 miles of the Green and White will be a great day too.

  182. By Ronbo on Mar 2, 2013 | Reply

    SPICER, Bye the way,my congratulations for your promotion the Asst. G.M. Obviously you have decided the Revis thing is a done deal so please forgive my ignorence bro.On the other hand, even if we trade Revis there is still gonna be a hugh cap hit,so I’m not sure how the trade you worked out changes our cap situation?. But I’m sure you’v thought this all out so keep up the good work.Hey,can you get me a break on my season tickets?

  183. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for the Next Phase on Mar 4, 2013 | Reply

    Ronbo, I’m all for trading Revis for whatever we can get and not looking back. We can’t risk trying to trade him next October, failing to, and getting nothing. So in that sense, I agree with Spicer. But you have to humor Spice a little now and then, he got on my case similarly once just for seeing and saying that Sanchez was never going to be a good starting QB a little earlier than he was willing to face that reality.

  184. By Ronbo on Mar 4, 2013 | Reply

    T-64, no problem bro, I have come to the conclusion we will probably trade Revis but until it happans he’s still a Jet. I get all the negativity towards him as he certianly does little to make one think he is in it for anything but the money. As for the Spice-man, ahhh, no big deal.While I still feel his comments were a little harsh I still like the guy and respect his opinion.No big deal…..But thanks.

  185. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for the Next Phase on Mar 4, 2013 | Reply

    Spicer’s a good dude who knows his stuff, he just, like most of us here who are over 40, has been rooting in vain for this woebegone franchise for so long that he can’t help losing it once in awhile in one way or another. I can remember when I was actually thrilled that “Sanchez won” the NE playoff 28-21 — definitely the high pt of his career and likely to remain that way, given how he’s gone downhill ever since.

  186. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Mar 5, 2013 | Reply

    64 Tom, you are so right about us fans over 40 losing it once and awhile. Spicer is a good dude who like me have been so disappointed in the front office’s way of drafting as well as up other teams old rejects in free agency. I am hoping this year will be different Idzik as GM. I just hope he does not let RR bully him into who should be drafted. As for MS winning the the NE playoff game. I agree with you on that also, that was his high light. I do disagree with giving Jarrard a shot, that’s not compitition that is bringing in someone who is 36 years old and on his last leg. I feel there will be a few QB’S in the later round lets stick with what we need and that is an OLB as well as some damn good young Offensive Linemen and RB.

  187. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for the Next Phase on Mar 5, 2013 | Reply

    I think Idzik’s looking like a smart guy, Jet Fan Frank, especially in the way that he refuses to act as if it’s Revis who’s the GM. And while I agree with you about the young players that we need, I’m not too worried about picking up Garrard for small bucks and giving him a shot because we’re going nowhere this season no matter what. One guy on ESPN had a good post the other day saying Garrard could be the right backup for a yr or 2 to the QB that we draft this yr or next who takes over for Sanchez.

  188. By Chicago Bob on Mar 5, 2013 | Reply

    Frank: I can understand your concern about RR trying to bully Idzik however I honestly think RR knows he is on thin ice and if he wants to continue to have a job as an HC, he needs to understand who is in charge (and it ain’t him). Rex needs to start preparing for the best coaching job in his life otherwise he is most likely gone and with the circus acts that have accompanied him during his tenure here, I doubt if there is anyone out there who would be willing to hire him – I think Rex has also screwed it for his brother. Like the old man, they are most likely destined to be lifetime DC’s. Hopefully some team signs Goldson from SF and the Bengals feel Revis is the final piece so both can start the bidding.

  189. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Mar 5, 2013 | Reply

    No doubt Idzik seems to be in charge. So I agree with both of you T64 and Chicago Bob about Idzik. As for RR it is hard to say yet if he is any wiser then previously. I feel he does know Idzik is on top. But Rex is REX, spoiled, big mouthed and arrogant. But I like the way you both think. I am still not sure about Jarrard but Tom you could be right. Idzik is smart and I feel he will use the draft to fill in the spots most needed as well as get a couple of good free agents. As for Revis the bidding will start real soon.

  190. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for the Next Phase on Mar 6, 2013 | Reply

    Chicago Bob, one of the greatest things about Revis getting traded, which may be only a week away, is that it will send a message across Jet Nation — and hopefully throughout the media, including to all these sportswriters who seem obsessed with the Jets in all the wrong ways — that Rex and his opinions and ideas mean precisely zero. And the best part of THAT is no more posts, or least fewer — from Ira, Karan, or anyone else — talking about “what Rex wants,” “Rex loves this kind of player,” “Rex would never…,,”, etc. What Rex will never do is HC an NFL team again after he’s fired as early as this coming October.

  191. By Ronbo on Mar 6, 2013 | Reply

    Jet Fan Frank, I agree with you about not signing older washed up players as we have done in the past.However, Tom64 makes a good poing about Garrard. He looked like the Dolphins best Q.B last pre-season until he tweaked his knee. He was actually playing well enough to hold off Tannthill. Keep in mind, this is one of those “hold the fort” situations Parcells was famous for.If we draft a Q.B this year Garrard can take the hits until the kid is ready.As our cap is a mess, I doubt we will be able to afford a better vetern option like Matt Moore.So unless you would rather see more of Sanchez this might be the lesser of two evils?

  192. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for the Next Phase on Mar 6, 2013 | Reply

    Chi Bob, Ronbo, and Frank, this is a very sane conversation we’re having on this story. We’re going nowhere next yr, neither Rex nor Sanchez have anything to do with this team’s future, and we’re finally, finally, FINALLY, showing signs of rebuilding the right way. In that context, it makes absolutely no difference who we keep from the current roster, which is why any talk of Keller, Cumberland, Moore, Landry, and Bell, much less Revis, Pouha, and DeVito, is of no importance. The team that is seriously competitive in 2015 will have no more than a handful of players who are on the current roster.

  193. By Ronbo on Mar 6, 2013 | Reply

    Tom64,Chicago Bob&Frank,It stinks that we as Jet fans will go into next season with little to no expectations for a winning season.Guys like Ira,S.C.Joe &Spicer reamain the optimists here(I will not insult them with the delusional stuff as they are not!)The thing is,bringing in a lot of over priced has-beens is only postponing the inevitable.I am o.k with takeing my lumps this year, and coming back next season after 2(hopefully)strong drafts + some prudent F/A signings as strong contenders for years to come.

  194. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Mar 6, 2013 | Reply

    Tom no doubt of taking the right step in rebuilding. As for going no where’s this season, we are going somewhere, Idzik is rebuilding this team with youth. Young players make a difference because they want to prove they are NFL caliber players, the proof of this is Indie and Houston. I am not saying we wiill make the playoffs but stranger things have happened with the draft. As for our salary cap no doubt it will hinder us from getting some young good free agents. Trading Revis to the 49ers makes the most sense because they have 15 draft picks and will surely give up at least 3 for Revis. RONBO, yes I am tired of other team rejects and most of us in here feel the same way. You are probably right about Jarrard takinga a few licks for

  195. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Mar 6, 2013 | Reply

    a young QB so he can learn the system, unless of course he proves to be another “LUCK” which is unlikely in this years crop of QB’S. So preparing for the 2014 season makes sense but once again it all revolves around the front office making the right choices and giving us fans some hope.

  196. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Mar 6, 2013 | Reply

    Ronbo in someways being optimistic like Ira, S.C.Joe and Spicer is a good thing. I for one am hoping we can pull off an Indie season like last year but that is all I can really do is hope, as for free agents our salary cap is going to put a damper on that. I feel Idzik knows that so he is going to go into the draft to build a new JET team. He is also going to look at some free agents but once again will he be able to afford them. One thing we all have in common we all want a SB 45 or 46 years has been long enough to wait. Next week starts Free Agency, I will keep my mouth shut unti I see how things progress next week. I wish we could keep Landry but from the looks of things that is not going to happen….

  197. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Ready for the Next Phase on Mar 6, 2013 | Reply

    I agree with you, Frank, rebuilding IS going somewhere. It’s too often other Jet fans, lost in delusions that a dynasty can be build overnight, who think otherwise. You know, there’s something I say to Jet fans and non-Jet fans alike, and when I say it I feel like I’m saying the sky is blue yet it’s shocking how many people react as if I’ve just handed them the Rosetta Stone. And that is that in the year we won the SB, just about every player on the O — basically everyone but Maynard and Talamini — had been drafted around the same yr as Namath or shortly afterward. That’s how you build a winning unit, not Mr T’s patchwork way or Rex’s talk-till-scrubs-are-convinced-they’re-great way. Ronbo, I’m cool losing in 2013 to be better in 2014.

  198. By Ronbo on Mar 7, 2013 | Reply

    J/F FRANK, yeah, I’m cool with the optimists,I was one of them last year at this time and was constantly butting heads with guys like JOE CAPPS & others.The thing is,eventually we all have to see the light and it became clear to me Rex was in way over his head. I believe Idzik has already come to that conclusion and I would bet he already has a guy in mind to lead this team next season.Without getting overly complicated heres the basic cap situation in a nut shell: The 2013 cap is 123.9 mil. Our current cap is at about 115 mil.that leaves about 8 mill w/5 mill going to the rookies. 3mill is not gonna get us very far as we currently have zero O.G’s,S’s,OLB’son our roster.(unless you believe Ducasse& MacIntyre are starters?(I dont)! so -

  199. By Ronbo on Mar 7, 2013 | Reply

    cont.-obviously there needs to me some massive restructuring done as the above 6 openings are only the tip of the iceberg.When you look at how poorly this roster was constructed it becomes very clear what a terrible job Tannenbaum did.Its bad enough he gave Sanchez very little chance to succeed with a lousey O.L,shakey recievers.Then the linebackers were old & slow and there was so little depth throughout the roster.The successful teams simply plug in a young replacement when the veterns get too old or are injured.When was the last time we had a young prospect the fans were anxious to see come in to replace an older guy?

  200. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Mar 7, 2013 | Reply

    RONBO in truth, the last time we had young prospects to fill in the gap was January 12, 1969, in Miami’s Orange Bowl, the New York Jets met the heavily-favored Baltimore Colts in Super Bowl III, for the championship game of professional football for the 1968 season. The Jets were the winners of the American Foot Ball League. Although they got out played by Oakland the following year they were still the Eastern champs after the merger. We all have been waiting for that team to resurface, naturtally with different players. I agree with you on the “SALARY CAP” in fact T64, Chicago Bob and others agree we have very little hope oif getting a young good free agent because of money an\d so does Idzik. So the draft is our hope…

  201. By HUSKER JET on Mar 7, 2013 | Reply


  202. By Ronbo on Mar 7, 2013 | Reply

    Jet Fan Frank, yeah i was just jousting with my buddy S.C.Joe on a different header concerning mid-season changes.I know its not common in the NFL but I wish we could have dumped Tanny sooner than later and moved on.This rebuilding process cant happan soon enough for most of us here. But I hope we can all be patient and build a strong sustainable roster like the Steeler’s,Ravens and N.E! It would be nice to expect to go to the playoffs every year and not be considered delusional.

  203. By Ronbo on Mar 7, 2013 | Reply

    HUSKER JET, Welcome home! Amen to Rex doing the right thing!

  204. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Mar 7, 2013 | Reply

    Ronbo, it would be nice….

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