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Long and Short of Today’s Barnes, Purdum Signings

Posted by Randy Lange on March 18, 2013 – 5:08 pm

Updated, 7:20 p.m. ET

The Jets have made one “snap decision” and one other “big little” transaction today with the re-signing of long-snapper Tanner Purdum and the signing of unrestricted free agent linebacker Antwan Barnes.

Barnes first. The 6’1″, 251-pound outside ‘backer from the Chargers has been reunited with his old D-coordinator, Rex Ryan, and DBs coach, Dennis Thurman, of course. He played the first two of his first three NFL seasons on Rex’s Baltimore defenses in ’07 and ’08. After ’09, he was traded to Philadelphia, released, then signed by San Diego, which used him at OLB behind Shaun Phillips from ’10 through most of last season.

Barnes has a nice 23.5-sack total for only 78 games and five starts, and that was pumped up by his big 11 sacks in ’11, nine of which he hung up in the Chargers’ last 10 games after they game to North Jersey and lost to the Jets in October.

Barnes tweeted on his verified Twitter account several hours ago, “Green and white it is…just want to thank coach rex coach DT and mr idzik for the opportunity…and to the fans I won’t let  down.” A short while later, though, he corrected himself: “Wait a minute…not official yet…in talks now…”

But just a minute ago AB returned to fait accompli mode: “Now its official#jetnation.”

Regarding Purdum, we say small in the paradoxical sense. The deal is not small to Tanner and his family, nor to recently re-signed K Nick Folk and incumbent punter/holder Robert Malone, nor by extension to the point production and field position desires of Ben Kotwica’s special teams, Marty Mornhinweg’s offense, Dennis Thurman’s defense, and HC Rex Ryan’s team.

That’s because Purdum for the past three seasons has been pur-fect, at least as far as looking upside down through his legs and putting the ball fast and true through a small window snap after snap.

He’s played in 55 games as a Jet, including three playoff games in 2010, and has made 488 snaps, 275 on punts and 213 on placements. We won’t say there hasn’t been a snap slightly high, low or wide, but not one of the 488 has skipped to his holder or sailed over his punter’s head.

Even though the NFL’s snapping quality seems about as high as its placekicking quality, snaps do go awry and thus get charged as fumbles to the snapper and rushes for no yards to the player who ends up with the peripatetic pigskin. Purdum’s been charged with no fumbles in his three seasons, and the only times a punter or holder took off with the ball, it was on purpose instead of out of self-preservation.

The last mishandled Jets mis-snap, whether due to snapper or holder, that we can recall was when James Dearth fired a field goal snap to holder Steve Weatherford back in Week 6 of the 2009 season against the Bills.

All of this in no way should imply that Purdum is the lone exception to GM John Idzik’s dictum of “Competition through and through.” At the moment his competition on the roster for the long-snapper’s job is Travis Tripucka, signed as a reserve/future free agent in January.

Tripucka played his high school ball in Mountain Lakes, N.J., 15 minutes up the road from the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center, then was the long-time long-snapper for UMass and a top defenseman for the Minutemen’s lacrosse team. He was signed by the St. Louis Rams to long-snap last year and made it to a late-August cut.

Two things about Tripucka: He’s from the athletic Tripucka family — dad Kelly played hoops for Notre Dame, the Pistons, Jazz and Hornets and was a Knicks color analyst for four seasons. And grandfather Frank was an original AFL quarterback who threw eight touchdown passes in six games for the Broncos against the New York Titans from 1960-62.

The other: Tripucka, like Purdum three years earlier, comes to the Jets after a summer look from one of the NFL’s Missouri teams. Purdum was a cut of the Chiefs back in ’09.

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79 Responses to “Long and Short of Today’s Barnes, Purdum Signings”

  1. By scjoe on Mar 18, 2013 | Reply

    64, I am OK with the delusional and panic stricken remarks. I don’t agree with them, but I am OK with them. I never “panicked” about losing any of the UFAs, why would I? I don’t know where that came from, that being said, you seem to be of the impression that Idzik took it upon himself not to resign any of the NYJ UFAs. You called it a “fire sale” Not True? He has no control over that, none were franchised. They simply followed the money, like most do. Look, I liked the signing of Idzik, but like Spicer said, what has he done of major consequence so far? It is just to early in the process to make the statement he is doing “everything” right.

  2. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Mar 18, 2013 | Reply

    Tanner Purdum is a good long ball snapper, glad he was resigned.

  3. By SCfromNY on Mar 18, 2013 | Reply

    I will say again I do not want to sign a lot of high priced FAs or the dregs from other teams. That said however, we do need some signings. There are players out there who while not elite were starters and we can not fill all our needs with tha draft. For instance look at the LBs. Releasing Scott, Thomas, and Pace was a good start BUT what we have is backups who were unable to unseat old and slow players. We need a few LBs and I feel we should find in FA at least 1 player who started last year. The same with Safety. We lost our 2 starters and I feel we need to bring in 1 FA who started last year. We can fill in with the draft but we can not replace everyone with a draft.

  4. By jake on Mar 18, 2013 | Reply

    Miami is doing exactly what the Jets did a few years ago. It’s funny being able to see the writing on the wall for the ‘phins having seen what happens two years down the road with these “blockbuster” FA moves. The Jets made all these huge moves with huge contracts both with money and contract length, now look at us, we can’t get out of those contracts and are force to rebuild yet again. I’m not worried about Miami at all. By the time Idzik has this thing fixed with sustainable success the Fish will be were we are right now, at the bottom of the AFC East struggling to just finish ahead of the hapless Bills. While hopefully we learn from our mistakes and can be on of the NFL’s top franchises for a long time.

  5. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Who's In It For Real on Mar 18, 2013 | Reply

    scjoe, I reprinted that post from the bottom story to make sure that you and 64Frank see it. As for Idzik, in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man and all that. Simply by getting real about the roster, refusing to gush over Rex’s failed favorites, and saying NOTHING to the press about ANYTHING, Idzik has exceeded my expectations by Billy “White Shoes” Johnson leaps and bounds. That’s what I mean by doing everything right. Similarly, throwing open the door to so many QBs other than Sanchez, be they vets or hopefully draft picks, couldn’t be more different from the Mr T/Rex policy of “Mark’s the starter and he gives us the best chance to win no matter how flat-out terribly he plays.” I find it impossible not to be excited about all this.

  6. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Who's In It For Real on Mar 18, 2013 | Reply

    By the way, MJV, chicks talk pretty boldly about cats these days too and have done so for quite a few yrs. (Cats and chicks, that’s jazz/beatnik lingo, dig? Nuthin’ for Rachel Maddow to get all bent out of shape about.) If you don’t believe me, go see SPRING BREAKERS with your daughters, if you have any, and see how shocked they’re not. (I don’t have kids myself but my 23-yr-old intern keeps me up on what’s happening with “the young people,” as Elizabeth Wilson is always cluelessly saying in LITTLE MURDERS — the quintessential New York-is-the-craziest-place-on-Earth movie, for those of you who haven’t seen it.)

  7. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Who's In It For Real on Mar 18, 2013 | Reply

    Arte, I just got your phone message about what a stud you think 250-lb Barnes is. Please post on this so some folks here might gain a little more perspective on the kind of FA’s we’re likely to go after this yr. I hate to break it to some of you guys, but Barnes, Heyward-Bey, Goodson and the like are probably the extent of what we’re gonna spend on this yr in terms of quality. After this yr’s and next yr’s drafts, that might change.

  8. By scjoe on Mar 18, 2013 | Reply

    64, you have to understand one thing, when Rex made those remarks “Mark gives us the best chance to win” in actuality he was right. All you have to do is look at what the other options were (Tebow and McElroy who we watched fail miserably) He started by default, nothing more.

  9. By IRA on Mar 18, 2013 | Reply

    I was really upset when they released Dearth and signed Purdum. So far so good he has stepped right in and not missed a beat.

  10. By danny on Mar 18, 2013 | Reply

    Tom 64 ” I hate to break it to some of you guys, but Barnes, Heyward-Bey, Goodson and the like are probably the extent of what we’re gonna spend on this yr in terms of quality. After this yr’s and next yr’s drafts, that might change. ” This says it all about what I believe Idzik’s plans are and I am all in iwth the plan. Someone said to me today “The Giants don’t rebuild they just won 2 Sb’s”. Welll really if you look a why they won there D line they drafted Tuck, Osi, JPP they drafted Manning, Bradshaw, Cruz, NIcks, Hikon on offense so they built 2 SB’s thru the draft cmonn do we want another Bart Scott or Calvin Pace really ?? Im with you 64 lets build a team the next 2 yrs

  11. By danny on Mar 18, 2013 | Reply

    If we have to trade Revis after the draft we can get a 1st rd pick next yr for him and trade up with our 2 picks for a top 3 pick maybe a shot at number 1 or 2. We can draft our QB if we don’t find the next Russel Wilson or Kap this yr in later rds

  12. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Who's In It For Real on Mar 18, 2013 | Reply

    By the way, scjoe, you and few others will probably accuse me of falling victim to some kind of Idzik Jedi Mind Trick with unprecedented speed, but I’d bring back Kahlil Bell for a longer look. If Rex got rid of him just over that one fumble that wasn’t too bright, the guy had better burst and stats than a lot of RBs we’ve taken a look at the last few yrs. Of course, if the fumble was just the tip of the iceberg of how bad he looked in practice, which is something none of us can know, then I can’t criticize the Jets for letting him go. But he’d certainly be cheap to get back so I see no harm in giving him another shot in camp. I mean, we gave Hilliard a deal and he looked consistently incompetent…

  13. By Byrdman on Mar 18, 2013 | Reply

    Add Barnes and Garay to the list of One Year Rentals brought in to fill a gaping hole in the roster or provide depth.

    Heyward-Bey is a NAME, suckers always fall for the BIG NAME!
    (lets avoid this hyphenated bust)

    In Detroit fans are making Goo-Goo Eyes over a RB they acquired named Reggie Bush.
    They’re thinking he’s the missing piece to the puzzle (I smile and nod my head) It would have been a better move to bring Jake Long (Michigan) back home to anchor the LT spot. Their O line is a mess.

    Do you think Idzik feels pressure to placate PSL holders?

    Do You believe these over the hill, low budget FA’s will make this team competitive this year ?

    Do You believe in the Easter Bunny ?

  14. By cgb on Mar 18, 2013 | Reply

    idzik for the moment seems content on signing blue chip talent, he definitely has a plan going forward. I think that plan, is building a team through the draft.Im a little worried about the safety position though. so many needs to be filled it cant possibly all get done by the draft alone. We just might see a nice quality safety signed before the draft.

  15. By scjoe on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    64, “Simply by getting real about the roster?” “refusing to gush over Rex’s failed favorites?” and “by saying nothing to the press about anything?” That’s it? That is why Idzik has “exceeded” your expectations? Your kidding me right? Because if your not, that has to be one of the most classic examples of setting the bar to low that I have ever heard. Again, I liked the signing of Idzik, so far he has done nothing to change my mind, at the same time he has done nothing extraordinary to warrant “exceeding” MY expectations. I hope that some time in the next month or so I can say he has, not just yet though.

  16. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Who's In It For Real on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    Don’t say I didn’t call it for ya, scjoe. From NBC (PF Talk has the story, too): “Cut on Tuesday, Darius Heyward-Bey, the 7th overall pick in the 2009 draft, hasn’t generated much buzz. However, we’re told that the Jets have interest in him. It’s unclear at this point whether H-B has interest in the Jets. The former Maryland speedster seemed to be on the verge of breaking out in 2011, with 975 receiving yards on 65 catches. But his production dropped by roughly a third in 2012, so the Raiders dropped the remainder of his pre-rookie wage scale contract.” Like I said, could be had for cheap…AND he’s used to playing with a lousy starting QB! (before OAK got Palmer, I mean). Who knows, he might peak with us just as Holmes is petering out…

  17. By GaryC on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    I am all for the Barnes signing as long as Rex didn’t go to his front door asking if he can come out to play.

  18. By Allan O'Dane on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    Idzik is the direct polar opposite of Mike T. Rex and Mike T. would have been like kids in a candy store wanting to sign all these sexy FA’s and strapping this team down for years to come. Idzik is just plugging holes…Barnes could be a good signing. He’s young..and knows how to rush the passer. BUT…he’s also injury prone..just like Goodson..so we take a chance on these guys..not going to cost us much. Colon..same boat..I hear Slauson maybe heading to Dallas to join Callahan. I have a soft spot for Slauson because this kid has fought through adversity and is a tough guy.
    So let’s see this done the right way for a change, watch the draft picks develop into special players..get our own big 3 Franchise QB— Dynamic RB — Prolific WR

  19. By Ronbo on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    S.C.Joe,Although we have never actually met face to face I consider you a friend.To me a friend is someone I respect and who’s opinion I value.So when I hear words like delusional tossed around I just dont get it?There are plenty of delusional guys here but in your case I dont see it?That being said, I differ sleightly from you & the Spiceman regardind Idzik.What he has done is exibited a calm presence in a volitile market.Sometimes not doing somthing hasty(like re-signing Keller to appease the fan base even though he didnn’t fit)is better than succumbing to the percieved pressure to make a splach.So far,so good for me!

  20. By Tom Spicer on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    Michigan DL William Campbell will have a private workout with the New York Jets.
    Campbell could be a fit as a nose tackle for the Jets, as he weighs in at 318 pounds and stands 6’5″. SI’s Tony Pauline suggests Campbell could potentially do a good job occupying gaps in a 3-4

  21. By Tom Spicer on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    ProFootballTalk.com says the Bucs are “close to moving on” from a Darrelle Revis trade.
    The Bucs and Jets can’t seem to agree on compensation, with Tampa’s No. 13 overall pick in next month’s draft still the main hangup. Per PFT, the “most” they’re willing to part with is a 2014 first-rounder. The Jets need to seriously consider lowering their asking price as watching Revis, a 2014 free agent, walk away without getting any compensation would be foolish

  22. By Tom Spicer on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    The Tampa Bay Times does not expect a Darrelle Revis trade “for several more weeks.”
    The Tampa Times is keeping close tabs on the situation because the Bucs are Revis’ likeliest suitors. The Buccaneers reportedly haven’t ruled out sending the Jets their 2013 first-round pick, which is precisely what New York GM John Idzik is targeting. Tampa Bay is also “not overly concerned” with Revis’ knee injury. The Bucs regard the opportunity to acquire Revis as “rare” and a potential “counter” to recent top-shelf moves made to upgrade the division-rival Falcons

  23. By Tom Spicer on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    The Jets are interested in free agent TE Kellen Davis.
    Davis has been drawing a ton of interest since being released by the Bears. He’s an intriguing red-zone option at 6-foot-7 and 267 pounds, and he can also block. Pairing Davis with Jeff Cumberland still wouldn’t be a cause for excitement

  24. By Paul N on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    I’m ok with Idjik moves so. Spending frugally in free agency is a must! If he can stay away from the high priced veterans, find some stop gap players to fill the holes, and ace the draft, the Jets might actually be competitive in 2014. The coming season won’t be pretty, but with wise management, the Jets can once again attempt to build a “Franchise” Good Luck Jets!!

  25. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Who's In It For Real on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    From Greenberg’s very wise column on this very site: “Naturally, seeing a developing top-level quarterback becomes believing in any regime. And in this case his arrival probably is a year away. But after going 6-10 in 2012 and winning just nine of their last 24 games over two seasons with an almost unwatchable offense, nobody can argue that Shonn Greene and Dustin Keller were difference makers.” He also mentions, Spicer, that Goodson’s deal is said to be “cap-friendly,” which I was surprised I had to remind you is all that really matters. You don’t really think Goodson, Garay, Colon, or even Heyward-Bey, if we get him, will be around in 2014 if they don’t shine in 2013, do ya?

  26. By Ronbo on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    S.C.Joe, an adendum to my last post, as little as I like the word delusional in your case, I do think the words or terms ‘stubborn,hard headed or obstanet would be appropriate!Now that doesn’t make you a bad guy, and Believe me, I know where you are coming from with your on-going skirmash with 64. I understand its all in good fun and I love the back & forth too.Personally, I dont think it needs to get as personal as some have chosen to do recently, but like you,I’m cool with it!Like they saying goes,”if you cant stand the heat….

  27. By Frank on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    Ira agree with you on Purdum and Folk. Breaking news!!!!!!!! The NYJ have been chosen for a new NFL reality show called…..NFL Mash Unit!
    These signings are curious to say the least. Colon and Garay are finished a giant waste of money I will be extremely ticked off if they let Slauson walk. The guy is a stud playing with one arm in 2011 and after having major surgery last offseason didn’t miss a beat. One of our draft picks and a player we develpoed those are the guys YOU KEEP!
    64 a 2% chance of having the #1 pick next year? I would say a 25% chance. Honestly I hope we do get the pick I want Johnny Football! he played HS ball in my neighborhood in Texas he is a great kid.

  28. By Tom Spicer on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    The Jets can still compete NEXT YEAR if Idzik plays his hand right. Kenrick Ellis our new starting NT the Jets thought this guy was a 1st round talent but he fell to the 3rd round because of “off field issues”. Last year our old DC said was the teams most improved player by far. DE’S Wilkerson & Coples I dont have to say anything about them they are the starters. Davis & Harris on the inside. I think Barnes will compete with McNytire for 1 OLB spot with the 9th pick going to the other OLB (Jarvis Jones?). As of now the best corner tandem in the NFL Revis & Cromartie. Now if Ellis plays well at NT, we hit on a pass rusher OLB at 9 & we some how get 2 good saftey (thats why I would have signed Yerimiha Bell) we have the makings of a good D.

  29. By Tom Spicer on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    On O With the over $2,000,000 you saved by signing Colon instead of resigning Moore. You sign Slauson than your O line is set. Brick, Slauson, Mangold, Colon & Howard from left to right. Pass catchers Holmes, Kerley, Hill, Cumberland & resign Braylon & you are set there. You need a RB & a QB & you are ready to roll. So even with all of the defections. The Jets are 2 small signings (Slauson & Braylon). Than 2 safteys, 1 pass rushing OLB, a RB & a QB away from competeing for a playoff spot.

  30. By uncle joe on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    If a two this year and a one next year is on the table for Revis, they better take it and RUN!!! even if he is at 100% this season he is still gonna miss his 2 games with a hamstring and be hampered by it for another 3. Plus you know Tampa is gonna stink again next year, just like us they over spent last year and still have NO QB!

  31. By Tom Spicer on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    Tom 64, In the prior post you said that IDzik was getting rid of Rex’s overpaid & under performing players or something to that effect trying to make us believe what a great job it is that he is doing. UM NO again he HAD to cut Pace & Scott just to get under the cap! Also again the Pace, Scott & Pouha cuts were ALL “NO DUH” cuts.

  32. By kleckofan on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    I’ve read some posters on here writing about how the Radar fits into their lives. As a CT guy (season tix holder as a kid at Shea) who is now out in very rural Oregon, you guys keep it real for me. I think it’s a shame that a disagreement over how our new GM is proceeding has become personal. I won’t point fingers and exacerbate the problem. Ronbo, thanks for trying to quell tempers too. Hey, we all write our own way from differing points of view; if I were garyC holding a PSL and season tix I would be ****** at JFT64 and me too. I feel for ya gary.
    That said, scjoe, your saying that Idzik hasn’t done anything “extraordinary” is exactly the point. Chasing headlines is not where its at. From the outside he seems to be well thought out CONT

  33. By Karan on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    Have a feeling Slauson will be a Cowboy sooner rather than later. I would love to have the guy back, he’s a solid OL. Please re-sign Edwards and Slauson ASAP.

  34. By kleckofan on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    and sticking to the plan. If we compete on any level next yr its a plus, the 2014 draft will probably be even more important for us than this yr because QB will be in play.
    BTW, not sure when everyone was writing about TB and Revis, but before i hit the hay out here on the West coast, the last thing I saw on SCNY was a quote from a TB reporter saying the Bucs were now prepared to offer this yr’s 1st rounder. This will be a good barometer on Idzik, does he lower expectations or hang tough?

  35. By kleckofan on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    Also, I think it was Ira talking about Purdum…glad you got your man. It is definitely an overlooked piece in any teams puzzle.

  36. By Tom Spicer on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    Brydman, “Do you think Idzik feels pressure to placate PSL holders?” My answer to that based off of what we have doen so far is a capital NO!

  37. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    Okay, lets talk about the most recent signings of Tanner Purdum, Antwan Barnes, Dennis Thurman and Travis Tripucka by John Idzik. So far good moves without giving up much money leaving us able to sign someone like “JARVIS JONES” and possibly “ZAC ERTZ”. Now you all know from my previous posts I really would like to see us get these 2 players in “GREEN and WHITE”. I am still a believer in the draft and always will be. DANNY mentioned above some of the players the GIANTS drafted, but that is also true of Houston, 49ers, and Indie and all were contenders by using the draft over the past couple of years. No question in my mind MM and John Idzik are going in this direction. Today I watched REX RYAN on the NFL Channel talk about REVIS.

  38. By scjoe on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    Ron, thanks bro, and I would consider you a friend as well, although we have never met face to face, same could be said about 64, spicer, Gary, byrdman, etc. etc. And I have been called a lot worse then “delusional” “stubborn” and “hard headed,” so that is a non issue. Back to reality, yes, Idzik has exhibited a calm presence, agree! But really, how big of an issue is that in the grand scheme of things? Again, I liked the choice with Idzik, as I mentioned to 64, he has done nothing to change my mind, however he has done nothing extraordinary “yet” either. All I am saying is what I have been saying all along, lets give it more time before we accept him or crucify him.

  39. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    (CONTINUED) and the way RR talked He is not that crazy about losing REVIS. But I believe the door is open only if the JETS can be well compensated with draft picks. Draft picks that would put us in a position to get ERTZ and POSSIBLY Manual. Why not ad Manual as another QB he will probably end up starting no matter what team grabs him this is also true for JONES and ERTZ… I just wish there was a way to trade a HC for a 6th or 7th round draft pick (lol)…

  40. By Tom Spicer on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    If the Bucs are offering there #2 this year which is the 43rd overall pick & there 1st round pick next year the Jets need to take it. The Jets would have the 9th, 39th & 43rd picks. That is 3 of the 1st 43 picks which is a good way to build your team. Also with the way the Jets look like they are going to be next year & I really dont see the Bucs getting any better. I see the Jets having 2 picks in the top 16 picks in 2014. We can really set ourselves up for the long term with these picks if Idzik doesnt pick busts. The other side of the coin is we keep Revis for 1 year & he wlaks next year & we only get a 3rd round compensatorty pick. Which to me is the worst thing to do!

  41. By scjoe on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    kleckofan, for me, no discussion, disagreement, debate, or argument if you will, about Idzik or any other issue can be construed as personal. I react to certain things, but try never to “overreact” Can’t speak for anyone else of course. I have stated recently in quite a few of my posts as a matter of fact, exactly where I stand on John Idzik as the new GM, so I wont go there again, but if you have already read them they should answer your question, or your quote about me referring to him as doing, or not doing anything “extraordinary” I do agree completely about your feelings for any NYJ fan who holds a PSL “IF” in fact they have no intention of competing in 2013. Which personally I feel they will.

  42. By scjoe on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    Spicer, I think, under the circumstances, if the NYJ can’t get a better offer then TBs 2nd this year and a #1 next year they have just 2 options. 1- Take it! 2- Make every effort possible to resign him! Why? Because if they do neither, and he plays out his contract in 2013, and excels in the process they will certainly wish they had resigned him. They can always trade him for much more next season if they do resign him.

  43. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Who's In It For Real on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    scjoe, as should be clear by now, I can’t think of anyone I have lower expectations of than Mr T, Rex, and “Mark”…maybe Obama, Boehner, Reid, and McConnell, but it’s close. I think you’d be hard-pressed to argue that Mr T, with Rex all over him as usual, woulda let go almost any of these guys. After all, didn’t Mr T give Pouha a big, multi-yr deal last yr? (When I said he shoulda gotten no more than a cheap 1-yr deal?) I also totally agree with Allan and klecko today about how Idzik has done quite a bit — “changed the culture,” you might say — by not talking to the press, making absurd pronouncements, and other things that Mr T and Rex have done for yrs. And the “Mark gives us the best chance to win” jive was absurd for several reasons.

  44. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Who's In It For Real on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    Those guys weren’t NO DUH losses to Mr T and Rex, Spicer, or they’d have been gone earlier. Byrdman, I don’t say Heyward-Bey is anything to write home about, but his 2011 yr was better than anybody’s done for us since Edwards in 2010, a LOT better than anything Schilens will ever do for us, and he’s younger and MUCH healthier than both of those guys. So again, a cheap 2-yr deal, possibly losing him halfway into it if he doesn’t measure up, is certainly no big risk. Especially with this news today that Holmes is likely to need right up until Opening Day to even get on the field.

  45. By IRA on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    Ok everybody I want a reaction to this. Say in the 4th or 5th rd the Jets pick William Gholston DE from Mich State. Reports have him projected to becoming a 3-4 starting DE. Hard worker, smart football guy, and a very good run stuffer. The Jets love taking players from the Big Ten and if this kid is worth the pick we will see what Idzik is all about. Any GM that would take the cousin of one of the biggest mistakes the Jets have made has a lot of nerve. I for one if the kid grades out good and you need him take him. Thoughts?

  46. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Who's In It For Real on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    Hey scjoe, go watch Eric Allen’s thing about how we’re “taking a smart approach” to free agency, maybe he can change your mind a little about Idzik. One thing you’ll have a real hard time arguing is that Mr T woulda ever taken this same approach! (For one thing, under Mr T half our draft picks woulda been traded away already…)

  47. By GaryC on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    Kleckofan,how the heck am I going to hold a PSL here in Indiana,unless I go back to jersey every weekend,Are my posts starting to blend with Scjoe’s or MJV’s.PSL’S,I never even held an upper deck at shea,I listened to Merle Harmon and Sam DeLuca on knob radios in my youth.

  48. By Uncle Joe on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    And if Ziggy and Tavon Austin are both of the board at 9 TRADE THE PICK .

  49. By Byrdman on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    Spicer – I think Idzik is seeking the Bucs #2 and a later pick like a 5th this year, plus their 1st round pick next year, a total of 3 draft picks for Revis.
    I agree with you – Idzik hasn’t grabbed any big name (sexy) FA’s – this would seem to indicate that he’s got more of a long term plan.

    This draft is uncharted territory under Idzik, if we land a pass rushing OLB (Jarvis) a franchise TE (Ertz) grab a big road grader at Guard then draft E.J Manual and a ball hawk Safety we could have the foundation of an exciting and competitive team.
    That would rank as one of the blockbuster drafts of the past 50 years !

  50. By IRA on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    Tom,
    Their 2nd this year and and a 1st next year is not too bad maybe they have to throw something else in based on Revis’ performance this year. If nothing gets done this week this could very well come down to the week leading up to the draft or on draft day. Last case scenario is to let him start the season and hope to trade him. That’s not happening plus only a team that is playoff bound would look at that. Plus once again like I have said why do you want the distraction of having Revis around all year. The story of what will happen will overshadow the team and season. If you are a new GM taking over you must avoid that.

  51. By MIKE on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    Now that I’ve had time to think about it, Devito and Keller may have been wise to release after all.

    Devito was a 1st down and running down DT and doesn’t deserve 3 down DT money. He was a fan favourite and will be missed.

    Keller is a pure receiving TE and was brutal at run blocking.

    It is clear that Idzik wants to move in a diferent direction with this team.

    I do feel bad for TT. The longer the Jets wait to cut him the less chance a team signs him. I quietly hope he converts to RB or TE and stays with the team.

  52. By Uncle Joe on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    And even if Revis returns to form he is useless in our Division. he can’t cover Stevey Johnson of the Bills so you know he won’t be able to keep up with Miami’s Wallace and Patriots don’t have a #1 WR. so that’s 6 games all within the Division that his One Million Dollars a Game paycheck is not justified. Best way to stop a great WR is to destroy his QB!!!!! Draft ZIGGY, Trade Revis.

  53. By Uncle Joe on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    Oh, and some of you people here complain about our Rex talking up his players,,,Titans coach gave Shon Greene 3Mill a year and said he reminds him of Eddie George!!!!! I guess that’s why they are drafting right next to us!

  54. By Mike Jet Vet on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    Tom64, yes I do have daughters. you see I don’t use sermons, soap boxes, fantasy, none of the above can you say the same I think not, there are many who witness your tiraids to convince people I don’t know. maybe to make us believe your someone above, better, smarter, . Here’s a thought Maybe you and your life partner should adopt a daughter. maybe you’ll understand the need to defend them in the way I have all their lives even before, BTW I’ve defended much more , but I digress, Tom64 you could never have survived my live I promise you that, no frills just sacrifice, and I would do again and again, no complaints I have none… so keep it coming you’re simply a walk in the park actually it’s funny…

  55. By Mike Jet Vet on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    con’t, BTW the signing’s you speak of believing they are masterful strategy, I don’t see the upgrade over Keller, Green Pace Scott Puoha even Smith..( I DON”T SAY WE SHOULD HAVE KEPT THEM) just saying Same cut of beef so to speak , Yes we understand they didn’t cost us much, unless they wind up warming the bench taking valued roster spots, I know, I know he’s just picking players going though the motions to fill seats for 2013 waiting to get to work in 2014, Again>>>>> makes lots of sense (sarcasm)

  56. By russ on Mar 19, 2013 | Reply

    Tom Spicer you are correct in your Revis assesment, to let him stay a year and leavewill not sit well with fans and will prove again a poor management…We need a strong Offense to eat up the clock to make our defense dominant to compete in our division..too many forced turnovers are not the problem of a quarterback but of his protection and recvers not running routes…tackles in the backfield are not because of poor play calling but execution and lack of talent..lets not pretend a shut down corner will change what is obvious to all..

  57. By cgb on Mar 20, 2013 | Reply

    Idzik does not appear to have sweat drops falling from his brow. He will take his time, pile draft picks, at some point by the end of next year he will make a decision on the coach. Good job woody. spicer your’e right about the revis to tampa, idzik will hold out for a 1st rd this yr. for as long as he can, but at some point will have to pull the trigger if tampa offers a 1st rd in 2014 .2nd or 3rd in iether 2013, or2014 along w/ a 1st is acceptable trade for revis.

  58. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Who's In It For Real on Mar 20, 2013 | Reply

    Like my dad used to say, “A word to the wise is sufficient.” Cimini often spends more time bashing than reporting, but here he is reporting an emerging fact that the impatient would do well to keep in mind: “The Jets are on a long-term rebuilding plan, and Idzik apparently isn’t married to the idea of having immediate draft-pick compensation [for Revis] — if he decides to move his best player, which is what many expect to happen. He’s telling people he’d be content to wait for 2014 compensation, when he could use an extra No. 1 pick (and maybe other picks) to maneuver for a quarterback.”

  59. By Frank on Mar 20, 2013 | Reply

    So Devito’s cap number for 2013 is 2.3 Mil and Garay is 1.2 Mil to save 1 Mil against the cap we sign a washed up old player who has hardly played for 2 years because of injuries and we let a young player WE DRAFTED widely regarded as an ascending player and one of the best run stoppers in the league walk. This is abject stupidity that is what it is! This is exactly the same type of idiotic moves Tanny made. Letting our guys walk for some over the hill FA.
    Rex foot in mouth again tweeking the Pats for losing Welker, Sanchez is the starter,bragging how tuff his team will be this year. He makes a fool of himself making it embarrassing to be a jet fan. He should’ve been the first out the door we are not in true rebuild mode until he is gone!

  60. By Frank on Mar 20, 2013 | Reply

    Spicer I am with you if the Bucs are offering a first rounder next year plus other picks this year take it!!!!!!!!!
    Memo to WoodZik Revis had major surgery and questions will be wether he will return the same player. HE IS DAMAGED GOODS tough break but those are the cards we are dealt! Trade him already clearly teams do not have the money to spend to meet his idiotic contract demands and the world knows what a pain he is to deal with.

  61. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Who's In It For Real on Mar 20, 2013 | Reply

    Ira, I agree with everything you say about Revis — but I refuse to be a part of any discussion of the Jets taking another player named Gholston! (I think I read that name right, but anything that even comes close scares me!)

  62. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Who's In It For Real on Mar 20, 2013 | Reply

    MJV, at this point you’re boring me and even making me feel more than a little sorry for you. If a football website can’t be fun and freewheeling in the face of all the other stuff that we all got to deal with every day, I don’t even want to bother with it. And I’m sorry that other people trying to share their life experiences and maybe make people share theirs in the interests of getting a laugh here and there offends you so profoundly. I think everybody does better when they’re encouraged to let loose and talk about what makes them feel good, but you seem to find that showoffy or intimidating in the way of some puritanical preacher of 100 years ago might. Have fun with that…

  63. By Ronbo on Mar 20, 2013 | Reply

    IRA,I’ve seen the Gholston kid quite a bit and I would grab him in rd 5 or 6 in a heart beat! He is a lot more athletic than people give him credit for and I could see him in a rotation with Coples & MO-Wilk as a hugh upgrade over the less athletic Devito. Spicer, as KLECKO FAN noted above, It appears T.B is now willing to do the deal incuding this years # 1 & #3 plus a 2 next year.That is probably because the 49ers and Eagles are still in the mix. You cant take anything said to the media at face value as this type of public postureing is common practice in any business deal. I believe this will get interesting before all is said & done! And remember S.C.Jo’e point, we can always re-sign him next year.No need to panic boys & girls

  64. By scjoe on Mar 20, 2013 | Reply

    64, yes, it is crystal clear to me where you stand on Rex, Mr T (where I agree) and the full class of Libs (where I also agree) but that’s really not the point is it? Most of the Jets UFAs moved on because they were offered more money somewhere else, not because of anything Idzik did. Now, that is not a knock on him, that is the reality of the situation. To say he has “changed the culture” at this point in time is ludicrous. Do you base that on the fact that he don’t talk to the press as much as Millinabaum did? Because that can be debated. So, what else? Look, even at this point, where nothing of real consequence has been implemented, I still believe he is an upgrade, but c’mon, lets be realistic.

  65. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Who's In It For Real on Mar 20, 2013 | Reply

    Frank, thanks for the post on Rex’s continued nonsense about how “No one’s gonna wanna play us,” etc. What I don’t think some of the Rex defenders get is that some of us who’ve sat through just about every Jet HC there ever was have a hard time believing that in this enlightened age, the Jets seem to think a snake-oil salesman like Rex, who’s always promising and never delivering, is the best we fans deserve. I always hated Landry’s bloodless, suit-and-tie approach to coaching, but it suddenly looks a whole lot better given what we got right now…

  66. By Byrdman on Mar 20, 2013 | Reply

    Radar Nation – If you get a chance click over and vote for my comment on Bleacher Report under the name Joe Urban.

    Debate: “Who Will be the Jets Starting QB in 2013″ ?

    First Prize is a date with Kathy Ferreiro !!

  67. By scjoe on Mar 20, 2013 | Reply

    64, I think short term, how Idzik handles the Revis issue, and the draft, will give us a much brighter picture of his capabilities. I would include how the QB competition plays out as well, but we at least have to go on the premise that that is the responsibility of the HC. Of course those QBs who actually are in the competition falls on the GM. I think those things would be determining factors, not how much he talks to the press or how he has allegedly quieted Rex Ryan

  68. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Mar 20, 2013 | Reply

    REVIS, REVIS, REVIS is all I have been seeing in many of the posts ADRIAN. PETERSONwas also damaged good prior to this past season. My opinion about REVIS and the way her is already ahead of schedule in his training is that he has something to prove and that he is going to come back as strong as ADRIAN PETERSON on the defensive side of the ball. Will he be traded this year, NBCSPORTS, ESPN, AROUND THE HORN, MIKE AND MIKE IN THE MORNING all say “NO” there reason given is: Even if the JETS get some draft picks it is going to be a question of who will par REVIS the money he is going to seek to sign with any other team. He will not sign a long term contract with any other team and will not take less then what he is to be paid by the JETS

  69. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Mar 20, 2013 | Reply

    (CONTINUED) next year and if he comes back the way MR> PETERSON came back he will definitly want more money next year when he becomes a FA. I believe REVIS is one of the most competitive ball players in the NFL, no question he is the best corner back in the NFL and he is going to prove it once again by getting himself back into shape, probably stronger and quicker then he was last year. REVIS has several more years of playingin the NFL. He may be spoiled, but YES, he is that good. If he should end up on another team, I sure hope we never have to play against him.

  70. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Who's In It For Real on Mar 20, 2013 | Reply

    scjoe, I see you getting into the finer and finer pts on Idzik and I have no problem with that. But any way you spin it, I think it’s very hard to argue that he hasn’t already had a very positive impact on the team. Like I told Spicer, if it was such a no-brainer cutting all this dead weight, why are the New York press and so many Jet fans so shocked? On the story ahead of this, I quoted a guy who posted on the ESPN site that there’s nothing wrong with celebrating that our GM is finally competent. So if that’s merely an upgrade, I still see it as a big one. I think some folks are maybe not quite grateful for — or convinced that there will be — a 2-yr roll-out of a rebuilding plan, but that’s the best news I’ve heard in a long time.

  71. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Who's In It For Real on Mar 20, 2013 | Reply

    By the way, scjoe, the DAILY NEWS reported twenty minutes ago that a Revis deal, possibly involving a #1 and a #3 with a #4 for next yr, is imminent. Needless to say I’d take that in a heartbeat, and I’d think this would be quite a coup for Idzik, especially since the Mr T/Rex braintrust woulda been more likely to pay him $20 mil a yr rather than make such a deal…

  72. By scjoe on Mar 20, 2013 | Reply

    64, agree hands down that the new GM is a definite upgrade over the former GM, heck, I think “I” would have been too. (;-) Even though nothing of real significance has been accomplished yet. I didn’t say “nothing” has been accomplished, I said nothing of real significance. I think that is a pretty fair statement. I would also agree, hands down again, that there are some people out there who are not convinced that there will be a 2 year “rebuilding process” I just happen to be one of them. But see, at least we are beginning to agree on some things.

  73. By Mike Jet Vet on Mar 20, 2013 | Reply

    My whole problem with all this Revis Nonsense. and yes I will partly blame Rex but mostly Mike T- and Woody for not over riding him, WE should have dealt him when I said Trade him before we rework a contract he had 2 years left to honor . as I remember and sure most here do he held out his rookie season before he even play a snap for us… Now he’s coming off injury,I know Tampa was interested but now that Revis is damaged goods, we lost most of our bargaining chips and believe why they picked up Golston.. he’s healthy.. .

  74. By GaryC on Mar 20, 2013 | Reply

    Scjoe,when it comes to Idzik,it is his approach,It is his THE BUCK STOPS HERE approach to things,he will not let things fester,in your words he hasn’t done anything great,but as Truman said,SPEAK SOFTLY AND CARRY A BIG STICK.by not signing anymore big names he is laying the ground work for future success,fans aren’t seeing it know,but it will arrive.

  75. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Mar 20, 2013 | Reply

    64TOM, I was looking on the Daily News On Line Sight and could not find the Revis report you was talking about. I hope you are right that would be a feather in Idzik’s cap as a new GM and we could use the 2 picks this year. The question I have are they going to absorb his salary? As posted on NBCSPORTS, ESPN, AROUND THE HORN, MIKE AND MIKE IN THE MORNING today….That is the biggest hold back.

  76. By scjoe on Mar 20, 2013 | Reply

    64, again, I agree with part of your statement above, the one in which you claim would be a coup for Idzik “if” they were to get a #1 and a #3 this year and a #4 next year. I would take that too, under the circumstances (the injury issue being one of the circumstances) . What I don’t agree with is your T/Rex analogy, because 1- Rex does not really want to trade Revis at all, and because 2- I am almost certain WJ would not pay him anything in the ballpark of 20 Mil a year to resign. Now if you would have said MT would have “suggested” to WJ and the NYJ to pay him 20 Mil a year, we would have agreed on both counts.

  77. By scjoe on Mar 20, 2013 | Reply

    GaryC, agree, he is following Truman’s theory “Speak softly and carry a big stick” maybe it’s just me, but I wouldn’t consider THAT to be a significant event, would you? And yes, he has refrained from signing the high priced big name free agents, he has signed the not so big name, over the hill, injury prone FAs. How does that equate to “laying the ground work for future success?” So, for about the 10th time, all I am saying is it is much to early in the process to judge this GM, one way or the other. Who knows, maybe there is a method to the madness, right now I am not certain what it is.

  78. By Jet Fan Since '64 Tom Who's In It For Real on Mar 20, 2013 | Reply

    scjoe, you’re like a diamond-cutter with these extremely precise pts on Rex, but I agree with them. And I also agree with GaryC about how fans, if they’re paying attention, can see the faint outlines of a Jet franchise under Idzik and how different it will be from under Mr T. As for a Revis trade, MJV, yup, in my memory you were definitely the first on that one…though I think Ira was ahead of me there too…

  79. By By Jet Fan Since 1964 Frank on Mar 21, 2013 | Reply

    I WAS WRONG AGAIN… I was under the impression we may obtain some complimenatary draft picks this year according to a report yesterday the JETS will not be obtaing complimentary draft picks this year leaving us with 7 picks. So the only way we will get extra draft picks is through trades. Other then “REVIS” I do not see any other players on the “JETS” squad tradeable material….

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